Antonio, I hope you are doing well. Will you explain what the acronym "SPDC" mean? and in what ways may I help the people of the Shan state? I would love to help these people too.
thanks for your support, but i stil want to find him and hit him a lot and film it for youtube. asep5 even said he supported the raope of tribal women by SPDC forces.
This group was reportedly given territory inside of Burma to rule over in exchange. according to ALL news sources "They played a significant part in the capture of Manerplaw, a rebel Karen stronghold headquarter." you can and should look it up
Good work, Antonio! Sly should see this and respond to yr request. We feel sorry for the Shan people as well as other ethnics of Burma who had gone thru so many years of neglect and suppression.
thanks for the comment and support. the karen, shan and other do communicate. but, they are in different states, shan state and karen state respectively, so there isnt too much they can do, but they share intelligence and training sometimes.
thanks, i appreciate what you are saying. actually there are hmong still in the jungle in lao and they need medical attention. for the hill tribes, there is tons that you can do. send me email and i will connect you with some reputable aid organizations
No, sadly there is not even one major super power involved in Burma. if US, UN or even Uk would step up they could help release Aung San Suu Kyi from prison and organize elections. But they havent. you are very confused about the issue.
I appreciated you putting all this stuff on the internet. What's the different between Khmer boxing, Muay Lao and Muay Thai? Is the Bokator the older version of all these arts? Thanks!
since you obviously know absolutely nothing about this war, the buddhist karen faction is called The Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (DKBA) and they are OFFICIALLY that means they say it, i say it, SPDC says, everyone agrees (except you) they are officially classified as a ceasefire army, which, by definition, means they are still under arms but are not fighting the SPDC. they work for the SPDC.
thanks for your support. the shan keep asking me to tell america about their plight. they hope america will come and help them. please tell everyone to watch this video and to write their congressman or woman.
Brooklynmonk my expertise is not South East Asia apart from the vietnam war I know have studied African history and a little latin American and European history. I found the video informative I had know idea about this struggle in Burma. The Shan martial arts look pretty good to me if? Your intentions are honourable I wish you luck with your efforts.
Just the thing about conscription (as I have just finished mine in the Royal Thai Navy): my professor warned me that right now they're not using drafts anymore. They stop a bus on the road and ask all men to step down and join the army right away because their country need them. It's either for that or for forced labor. Is this true?
In your opinion, what do you think chances are of the SSA defeating the SPDC army, considering that the junta starved the people and put all aid and oil money into the military (plus THE wedding)?
On a related note, my Burmese instructor actually said that now even the soldiers are sick of their own army. Many left already.
Those guy's are bad asses. I lived in Thailand for years, I know the Burmese Gov. needs to go. Is there any PMC's that is operating against them in Burma? I'd love info if there are any.
yes, that is true. it is foced conscription at gun point but usually no choice is given. they arent offered the option of being porters. they are just killed if they resist.
So you were wrong about teh religion and you were wrong about the western powers. it is amazing inside of one hour you recanted half of what you said. now lets work on the other half. specifically which puppets are western powers creating? and specifical;ly which western powers are we talking about?
I cant believe it, thi guy Urqiqi who obviously works for SPDC sent me a million terrible emails. now he has closed his youtube account. the world is a wierd place. i am trying to help the shan the best way i know how, as a journalist and film guy and now i am in philippines studying emergency medical technician so i can help more in burma. i am doing what i can. please forgive me if it is not enough.
the shan havent chnaged religions and i work with shan and this video is about shan. once again, which western power is using the shan as puppets? to my knowledge, and i have spent years working on both sides of the border, there is no significant involvent of ANY western power with the Shan.
No, no major western govenrment, power or missionary group has gone there in decades. if by "them" you mean the shan, they are solidly Buddhist, nearly 100% of them. the major cultural influence is from Thailand, not the west. actually America didnt instal christianity in vietnam, it was France. and it wasnt protestantism, it was catholicism. but that isnt why the war happened. How could you possibly so misinformed?
No, as a matter of fact the only catholic president of US was assasinated, so there was no religious card to play. the catholics set up their own armies, as did the cao dai and hoa hao because they were against the communists and this had nothing to do with the americans or any western power. many of them were anti western also.
The SPDC have 400,000 thousand troops, the third largest army in asia. burma spends more than 20% of its gdp on military. most soldiers are conscripts. they dont want to fight. they are tortured and starved like everyone else.
The SSA doesnt have to beat teh SPDC. they arent trying to verthrow the government. they would support the over throw and they support NLD and Aung San Su Kyi but are not involved in that struggle because they are too far away and too small. the SSA is concentrating on getting independence for Shan State.
As long as the SSA holds out and keeps fighting, buying time, hopefully the world will eventually step in to help them. all they need is recognition from USA or UN and that would be the end of the struggle.
I am on a list with a number of aid organizations waiting to go into burma as an emergency medical technician to aid the cyclone survivors. why do you support foreign intervntion in the cyclone but not in the genocide? the gnocide has killed more people than the cyclone
Obviously i support the shan and karen. i would fight or die for them. we also need to pray for the rohingas and all of the ethnic minorities in Burma.
just curious, why do you live in USA if you support the SPDC? shouldn t you be in burma if burma is so great? does it bother you in america that people have human rights?
I have written a ton of artciles on this struggle. i am publishing one article and one video per week till the movie is released. if you want me to send them to you or your professor that would be great. send me a private message with your email.
Historically, and i am sure you have read the history extensively, Shan State was never completely part of Burma. even under the British they were a autonomous. they were ruled by the Shan princes.
i asked before: do you work for SPDC? you said foreigners shouldnt help the Shan but you want us to donate to the cyclone relief. this is very suspicious. just answer the question, do you work for SPDC? and why wont you fight me?
they cant. you know that SPDC commits gang rape and burns their villages. they are defending themselves as best they can until the UN hopefully helps them.
there are two separate, but related, struggles in burma. all burmese are having their human right villated and are denied a democracy. but in the tribal areas there is genocide. just this year, more than 2,000 tribal people have been murdered by SPDC. This is not true of ethnic Burmans, only of ethnics, like the shan and karen.
Yes i speak thai but shan is also similar to thai and many soldiers speak both. i support aung sna su kyi but the independence of shanland is a separate issue and doesnt need to wait for her to be released, especially since she has never stated that she has a plan to give independence to shanland. so i hope and pray for her release, but this is unrelated to the shanland issue.
which part of my video is full of shit? the part about burma, the war, genocide? please tell me. "full of shit" wasnt quite enough information. You may be right, but i am not sure what you were referring to. antonio graceffo
sorry i am an educated native speaker of english so i dont quite understand what you have written here. once again, if that was your family being murdered would you want someone to come help? check a dictionary before replying.
the buddist karen armed faction works for spdc i think this because everyone who knows about burma knows this. they are a proxy army for spdc. how do yuo not know that? you dont seem to have ever been to or researched the places you have so many opinions about.
with dictatorship like this that truly opress the people, im wondering why doesnt america get involved here? im sure america would have done better here then it would in iraq. even though there isnt any resources to exploit (like oil) america should do the right thing and help out the shan. i hate to see my tai brothers and sisters in such a state... *sigh* how sad
Khun sa is dead, read the papers. col. Yawd Serk is the leader now, and the intent is to separate shanland as a separate country and yo give freedom to all ethnics within shan state.
actually the burmese government did start this. you could read a basic history of the burma conflict on the internet or i could recommend some books. it really wouldnt be nice to wish all of my friends dead because of their accept.
I wish I could help everyone. The Karenni is another largely ignored group. the karen get a lot of foreign support but sadly karenni and some others don't.
the reason thailand gov don.'t support karen is they are not relate to thai /the shan is part of thai family tree or speak close language to thailand and laos. I speak laos and I can understand most of what they(SHAN) are talking about / the same as I understand thai because 80 percent are the same there may be word here and there that I don't know but for most part I understand by listening couple time I can even figure out what is the meaning of the new word that is not in the laos language.....if you are thai gov. you do the same invest in people speaking your language because no matter what happen they most likely will side with you....when it come to money they do little for karen to thai gov. is all about winning all angle of support ...thai gov have play the game all these years so they know who to invest for to get the most for the money .....SORRY TO KAREN for not speaking thai language even thought a large karen population is in thailand
yes it is called total war but your not supposed to gang rape young girls or burn whole villages full of civillians. am i really a dumb ass for believing that?
i dont really understand, why would you want to kill innocent shan civilians: women, children, and old people. that is what SPDC does. why do you support that?
i have met a lot of people and none of them suffered eye damage. so perhaps you could also meet me and it wouldnt hurt yoru eyes. but what is the real reason for your agression? also, i am not a bitch, bitch is a female. i am male.
The karen were not made christian by the americans. they were made christian by the british. but thechristians are the ones fighting for democracy and independence, not the buddhist karen who are drug runners.
seriously, what is wrong with you? you write lol when you talk about people getting killed. i was wondering, could we meet? i would love to hear you speak face-to-face.
the government refuses them a passport, rights of citizenship or the right to vote. burma arrested aung san su chii after she won the popular election. the shan formed an army to defend themselves and get freedom. that isnt wrong. seriously how can you support the SPDC they are so evil.
the shan /thai/lao or thai lao and other group like thai dum / thai lue are all the same people speaking same language with 70 to 80 percent understanding each other... 2000 yrs ago they are the same people branch out as time past ....thai boxing originate in the budha temple due to many KUNG FU chinese monk take refuge in thai land /laos teaching the chinese ART to local MONK ..... the 1600 and 1700 chinese monk escape political changes in china many TEMPLE GOT BURN FOR ACCUSING SUPPORTING REBEL as MANCHU try to attack / kill all enemy......thai boxing is the result of simplify the chinese kung fu by the local monk as time past and many chinese monk die or return to regular people -- 15 percent of thailand population is chinese and the 4 biggest bank in thailand 3 are control by chinese that mean that economically chinese is very powerfull in thailand and very powerfull in political too... consider the last female priminister is chinese ..... thai boxing is out of the BIRD STYLE crane and the chicken style....the elbow strike are from chicken wing strike and you can still see the crane influence in thai boxing ............even thought it is no longer consider kung fu /it is influence by chinese ART....chinese monk also teach/influence chi kung meditation breathing which thai and lao budha temple never know or teach until they learn from the chinese MONK
lagook, the guy asep5 is a coward. my name, email, face and location are all public information. i am not hiding. ASEP5 is clearly burmese but hiding in USA. he is benefiting from the freedom and safety my country gives him while supporting a genocide in his home country, which he fled. i have repeadtedly asked for his real name and location so we can finish this, but he a scared little punk and refuses to tell me.
go screw yourself. do you work for the spdc? what if that was your family being murdered? what an uncarring unthinking miserable human being you must be. any time you want to get in a boxing ring with me, i am waiting. antonio graceffo the monk from brooklyn
If you go to west piont you probably dont want to tell them that you plan to make war with america. i really wish i could find you. you are a coward, you will never be or do anything with yuor life. fight me if you are man.
if you can't understand check with your doctor for your brain (probably it would be better to say check about your brain or have your brain checked). you got no family murder (your family hasn't been murdered or you don't have any family who was murdered). and you are not from shan state. instead of speaking nonsense and thinking everyone else don't (doesn't) speak english
Antonio, I hope you are doing well. Will you explain what the acronym "SPDC" mean? and in what ways may I help the people of the Shan state? I would love to help these people too.
thanks for your support, but i stil want to find him and hit him a lot and film it for youtube. asep5 even said he supported the raope of tribal women by SPDC forces.
This group was reportedly given territory inside of Burma to rule over in exchange. according to ALL news sources "They played a significant part in the capture of Manerplaw, a rebel Karen stronghold headquarter." you can and should look it up
thanks. i hope you can come over and help us train. can you come to help the hmong in lao or the shan in burma?
SPDC is a euphamism it stands for state Peace and Development councile which is what teh junta calls its army.
Good work, Antonio! Sly should see this and respond to yr request. We feel sorry for the Shan people as well as other ethnics of Burma who had gone thru so many years of neglect and suppression.
which army is your uncle a brig general? you mean in SPDC or in SSA? SSA actually doesnt have generals.
just curious, what do you think about Aung san Suu Chi?
Incredible Work! You've gone were few ring fighters would.
thanks for the comment and support. the karen, shan and other do communicate. but, they are in different states, shan state and karen state respectively, so there isnt too much they can do, but they share intelligence and training sometimes.
thanks, i appreciate what you are saying. actually there are hmong still in the jungle in lao and they need medical attention. for the hill tribes, there is tons that you can do. send me email and i will connect you with some reputable aid organizations
Yes, i agree, the genocide is terrible and i pray, as you do, that the shan will win and the race will survive. thank you for your continued support.
No, sadly there is not even one major super power involved in Burma. if US, UN or even Uk would step up they could help release Aung San Suu Kyi from prison and organize elections. But they havent. you are very confused about the issue.
I appreciated you putting all this stuff on the internet. What's the different between Khmer boxing, Muay Lao and Muay Thai? Is the Bokator the older version of all these arts? Thanks!
since you obviously know absolutely nothing about this war, the buddhist karen faction is called The Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (DKBA) and they are OFFICIALLY that means they say it, i say it, SPDC says, everyone agrees (except you) they are officially classified as a ceasefire army, which, by definition, means they are still under arms but are not fighting the SPDC. they work for the SPDC.
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thanks for your support. the shan keep asking me to tell america about their plight. they hope america will come and help them. please tell everyone to watch this video and to write their congressman or woman.
BTW, thank you so much for your prompt reply. Are you living in Thailand at the moment?
For thos who don't know..
Shan, Thai and Lao belong to the same Ethnic group called Tai. We usually called Shan as Tai yai
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All the fights I've seen in bars, clubs and in the streets only a few went to the ground.
kyawzehtun, Shan(known as Tai-yai in Thailand) and Thai are from the same language family--Tai-kadai.
Brooklynmonk my expertise is not South East Asia apart from the vietnam war I know have studied African history and a little latin American and European history. I found the video informative I had know idea about this struggle in Burma. The Shan martial arts look pretty good to me if? Your intentions are honourable I wish you luck with your efforts.
Just the thing about conscription (as I have just finished mine in the Royal Thai Navy): my professor warned me that right now they're not using drafts anymore. They stop a bus on the road and ask all men to step down and join the army right away because their country need them. It's either for that or for forced labor. Is this true?
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realy intersting video , I heard the shan state going to be defeated.
could you please give me your real name and tell me if you are west point now. also the name of the congressman who recommended you.
All fights don't go to the ground
In your opinion, what do you think chances are of the SSA defeating the SPDC army, considering that the junta starved the people and put all aid and oil money into the military (plus THE wedding)?
On a related note, my Burmese instructor actually said that now even the soldiers are sick of their own army. Many left already.
Those guy's are bad asses. I lived in Thailand for years, I know the Burmese Gov. needs to go. Is there any PMC's that is operating against them in Burma? I'd love info if there are any.
yes, that is true. it is foced conscription at gun point but usually no choice is given. they arent offered the option of being porters. they are just killed if they resist.
So you were wrong about teh religion and you were wrong about the western powers. it is amazing inside of one hour you recanted half of what you said. now lets work on the other half. specifically which puppets are western powers creating? and specifical;ly which western powers are we talking about?
How did you get to do this and go there and meet the rebels?
Sadly, I have no idea what you just wrote.
@Khmer96pride Let's hope not.
I cant believe it, thi guy Urqiqi who obviously works for SPDC sent me a million terrible emails. now he has closed his youtube account. the world is a wierd place. i am trying to help the shan the best way i know how, as a journalist and film guy and now i am in philippines studying emergency medical technician so i can help more in burma. i am doing what i can. please forgive me if it is not enough.
so why do you want to kill the ethnic people in burma? and why does SPDC keep her in detention?
If anyone knows how to hack an account and find out where Asep5 is located, and or who he is, please let me know.
the shan havent chnaged religions and i work with shan and this video is about shan. once again, which western power is using the shan as puppets? to my knowledge, and i have spent years working on both sides of the border, there is no significant involvent of ANY western power with the Shan.
No, no major western govenrment, power or missionary group has gone there in decades. if by "them" you mean the shan, they are solidly Buddhist, nearly 100% of them. the major cultural influence is from Thailand, not the west. actually America didnt instal christianity in vietnam, it was France. and it wasnt protestantism, it was catholicism. but that isnt why the war happened. How could you possibly so misinformed?
No, as a matter of fact the only catholic president of US was assasinated, so there was no religious card to play. the catholics set up their own armies, as did the cao dai and hoa hao because they were against the communists and this had nothing to do with the americans or any western power. many of them were anti western also.
The SPDC have 400,000 thousand troops, the third largest army in asia. burma spends more than 20% of its gdp on military. most soldiers are conscripts. they dont want to fight. they are tortured and starved like everyone else.
The SSA doesnt have to beat teh SPDC. they arent trying to verthrow the government. they would support the over throw and they support NLD and Aung San Su Kyi but are not involved in that struggle because they are too far away and too small. the SSA is concentrating on getting independence for Shan State.
As long as the SSA holds out and keeps fighting, buying time, hopefully the world will eventually step in to help them. all they need is recognition from USA or UN and that would be the end of the struggle.
I am on a list with a number of aid organizations waiting to go into burma as an emergency medical technician to aid the cyclone survivors. why do you support foreign intervntion in the cyclone but not in the genocide? the gnocide has killed more people than the cyclone
Obviously i support the shan and karen. i would fight or die for them. we also need to pray for the rohingas and all of the ethnic minorities in Burma.
just curious, why do you live in USA if you support the SPDC? shouldn t you be in burma if burma is so great? does it bother you in america that people have human rights?
I have written a ton of artciles on this struggle. i am publishing one article and one video per week till the movie is released. if you want me to send them to you or your professor that would be great. send me a private message with your email.
haha awesome video see u in the jungle 2012
khmer boxing (bradal serey) muay lao and muay thai are all the same. yes, bokator is the oldest one, the origin of all the others.
Historically, and i am sure you have read the history extensively, Shan State was never completely part of Burma. even under the British they were a autonomous. they were ruled by the Shan princes.
could you stop calling me dumb ass? are you a student at West Point right now? which congressman recommended you? whats your real name?
i asked before: do you work for SPDC? you said foreigners shouldnt help the Shan but you want us to donate to the cyclone relief. this is very suspicious. just answer the question, do you work for SPDC? and why wont you fight me?
Thanks for sending me asep5 IP address. now i just need the name and physical address.
they cant. you know that SPDC commits gang rape and burns their villages. they are defending themselves as best they can until the UN hopefully helps them.
there are two separate, but related, struggles in burma. all burmese are having their human right villated and are denied a democracy. but in the tribal areas there is genocide. just this year, more than 2,000 tribal people have been murdered by SPDC. This is not true of ethnic Burmans, only of ethnics, like the shan and karen.
Yes i speak thai but shan is also similar to thai and many soldiers speak both. i support aung sna su kyi but the independence of shanland is a separate issue and doesnt need to wait for her to be released, especially since she has never stated that she has a plan to give independence to shanland. so i hope and pray for her release, but this is unrelated to the shanland issue.
which part of my video is full of shit? the part about burma, the war, genocide? please tell me. "full of shit" wasnt quite enough information. You may be right, but i am not sure what you were referring to.
antonio graceffo
sorry i am an educated native speaker of english so i dont quite understand what you have written here. once again, if that was your family being murdered would you want someone to come help?
check a dictionary before replying.
the buddist karen armed faction works for spdc i think this because everyone who knows about burma knows this. they are a proxy army for spdc. how do yuo not know that? you dont seem to have ever been to or researched the places you have so many opinions about.
They speak Thai
with dictatorship like this that truly opress the people, im wondering why doesnt america get involved here? im sure america would have done better here then it would in iraq.
even though there isnt any resources to exploit (like oil) america should do the right thing and help out the shan.
i hate to see my tai brothers and sisters in such a state... *sigh* how sad
You speak Thai, don't you? I heard a "Kob Khun Maak Khrub" at 4:30.
icp, before you say FREEDOM TO SHANLAND, shouldn't you say "Free Suu Kyi without conditions!" first?
Khun sa is dead, read the papers. col. Yawd Serk is the leader now, and the intent is to separate shanland as a separate country and yo give freedom to all ethnics within shan state.
actually the burmese government did start this. you could read a basic history of the burma conflict on the internet or i could recommend some books. it really wouldnt be nice to wish all of my friends dead because of their accept.
I wish I could help everyone. The Karenni is another largely ignored group. the karen get a lot of foreign support but sadly karenni and some others don't.
the reason thailand gov don.'t support karen is they are not relate to thai /the shan is part of thai family tree or speak close language to thailand and laos. I speak laos and I can understand most of what they(SHAN) are talking about / the same as I understand thai because 80 percent are the same there may be word here and there that I don't know but for most part I understand by listening couple time I can even figure out what is the meaning of the new word that is not in the laos language.....if you are thai gov. you do the same invest in people speaking your language because no matter what happen they most likely will side with you....when it come to money they do little for karen to thai gov. is all about winning all angle of support ...thai gov have play the game all these years so they know who to invest for to get the most for the money .....SORRY TO KAREN for not speaking thai language even thought a large karen population is in thailand
yes it is called total war but your not supposed to gang rape young girls or burn whole villages full of civillians. am i really a dumb ass for believing that?
i dont really understand, why would you want to kill innocent shan civilians: women, children, and old people. that is what SPDC does. why do you support that?
i have met a lot of people and none of them suffered eye damage. so perhaps you could also meet me and it wouldnt hurt yoru eyes. but what is the real reason for your agression? also, i am not a bitch, bitch is a female. i am male.
The karen were not made christian by the americans. they were made christian by the british. but thechristians are the ones fighting for democracy and independence, not the buddhist karen who are drug runners.
seriously, what is wrong with you? you write lol when you talk about people getting killed. i was wondering, could we meet? i would love to hear you speak face-to-face.
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the government refuses them a passport, rights of citizenship or the right to vote. burma arrested aung san su chii after she won the popular election. the shan formed an army to defend themselves and get freedom. that isnt wrong. seriously how can you support the SPDC they are so evil.
the shan /thai/lao or thai lao and other group like thai dum / thai lue are all the same people speaking same language with 70 to 80 percent understanding each other... 2000 yrs ago they are the same people branch out as time past ....thai boxing originate in the budha temple due to many KUNG FU chinese monk take refuge in thai land /laos teaching the chinese ART to local MONK ..... the 1600 and 1700 chinese monk escape political changes in china many TEMPLE GOT BURN FOR ACCUSING SUPPORTING REBEL as MANCHU try to attack / kill all enemy......thai boxing is the result of simplify the chinese kung fu by the local monk as time past and many chinese monk die or return to regular people -- 15 percent of thailand population is chinese and the 4 biggest bank in thailand 3 are control by chinese that mean that economically chinese is very powerfull in thailand and very powerfull in political too... consider the last female priminister is chinese ..... thai boxing is out of the BIRD STYLE crane and the chicken style....the elbow strike are from chicken wing strike and you can still see the crane influence in thai boxing ............even thought it is no longer consider kung fu /it is influence by chinese ART....chinese monk also teach/influence chi kung meditation breathing which thai and lao budha temple never know or teach until they learn from the chinese MONK
lagook, the guy asep5 is a coward. my name, email, face and location are all public information. i am not hiding. ASEP5 is clearly burmese but hiding in USA. he is benefiting from the freedom and safety my country gives him while supporting a genocide in his home country, which he fled. i have repeadtedly asked for his real name and location so we can finish this, but he a scared little punk and refuses to tell me.
go screw yourself. do you work for the spdc? what if that was your family being murdered? what an uncarring unthinking miserable human being you must be. any time you want to get in a boxing ring with me, i am waiting.
antonio graceffo the monk from brooklyn
If you go to west piont you probably dont want to tell them that you plan to make war with america. i really wish i could find you. you are a coward, you will never be or do anything with yuor life. fight me if you are man.
the grammatical errors that make you look like a complete mook in (). i speak with (my or the) brain. i didn't see any (anything) wrong in the logic,
if you can't understand check with your doctor for your brain (probably it would be better to say check about your brain or have your brain checked). you got no family murder (your family hasn't been murdered or you don't have any family who was murdered). and you are not from shan state. instead of speaking nonsense and thinking everyone else don't (doesn't) speak english
lol and here you said you were training at west point....
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i grow tired of your childish antics
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