Everyone's been raving about the Tascam DR-10L. I've had mine for a few months but just recently started using it regularly, and I have not been impressed with the audio at all. This explains why and how to clean it up. Well done man, thanks. Btw your other audio source sounds super crispy 👌🏼
Lowering your lows can rescue your vocals when poorly recorded, but the best quality improvement I've found with lav mics is to move them way further down your chest than what you've got there. Move it another 4-6 inches lower. You'll lose that throat rumble and it will sound perfectly natural.
NightHawkInLight which mic do you use? My Countryman EMW is excellent with high-end clarity, and I will tend to use it when the mic needs to be concealed under clothing--further muffling the sound.
JK MIC-J 044 on the recommendation of TH-cam reviews. I've been happy with it. My recent videos are recorded all with that mic with minimal post processing besides levels and some compression.
I record dialogue with the Rode Filmmaker Wireless Lav mic. I recently shot a short film and was having a hard time with equing the dialogue tracks to make them sound more clearer. I went through tons of youtube tutorials and tried what they did and it didn't work. I used the technique you showed in this video and it worked like a charm.
you could automatically cut the low frequencies in the menu of the tascam so that it removes them while recording. If you set it up properly in the menu settings then you get very crisp audio.
Cheers Oliver, I've been using lavs recently after years running my adk a6 into my camera and the muddiness was a surprise. I came to excatly the same conclusion as you in this vid! Was nice to see!
Wow, amazing video Oliver! You explain things very clearly and easily, I will definitely be using this technique to improve the sound quality of my DR-10L. Thanks for the tutorial!
I've the joys of less than quiet neighbours who make it trickydoing anything TH-cam during the day. So as to not have to be totally nocturnal, I went with a lav mic and experienced the hateful, resonating, boomy, but muddy, sound issues you describe. Bought different lavs, some were less bad but none have sounded good. Hopefully now I can take your info and figure how to use it in Audacity... Thanks!
Great video, just got this Tascam. I was using ClipMic Digital and my iphone. Awesome mic, yet it broke on me 3x. Trying to learn how to use this device.
I primarily use this mic as backup on a wedding day, but I've found that when vows or toasts are being projected over a speaker, even when it's a good distance away, this lav likes to pick up that audio more than the person's natural voice... have you run into this issue at all? I've tested it against my RodeLink wireless lavs in the same situations and the Rodes perform much better...
Very helpful, thanks. I'm sort of an audio apeman, my understanding's pretty primitive, but for sure I can hear muddiness. As a general approach to gaining more clarity you've shown this works and I'll definitely apply it when I have to use my mid-level mics. Thanks! Actually just got a DR-10L so I can let my talent off the leash but this will be broadly applicable.
Hi Oliver! Just subscribed to your channel! Great video! Question, do you think you could do this same episode, but just strictly use the adobe audition EQ settings? Im trying to step up my audio skills and knowledge and I myself just ordered the Tascam DR-10L. If not no sweat. Just curious lol...Great stuff man and keep up the good work!
Thanks for this informative video Oliver. At what point in the process described in this video would you apply adaptive noise reduction (in either Premiere Pro or Audition CC) to remove a low level of noise on a single vocal track, if it was needed (i.e. for low level of ambient noise/hiss)? Before or after EQ adjustments? I ask because I'm trying to improve a vocal track recorded on a Sennheiser lav in a small, boxy room with a high ceiling.
Great question and I've heard many opinions on noise reduction signal chain, and where exactly to perform it. Personally, I reduce first. Before compression especially. Simply because compression (and EQ to an extent) will manipulate the noise floor over time, and therefore I want a more exact and consistent print of everything to reduce the maximal amount of noise. Make sense?
When you use two lavs and a boom for recording dialogue bet. 2 people, which dialogue do u actually edit in post? The lav audio or the boom audio? Which one of those audios is actually used?
Boom, most every time - as it will typically be a better, fuller sound. The only reason to include a lav in recording is for backup in case of a boom mic failure.
you're a Pro! I love fab filters though on my IPAD....i'm cheap but love my fabfilters. I mostly make trance music but getting into film audio too....Keep amping the fun!
mark shirley go look for either a graphic or parametric EQ plugin in FCPX and apply the same principles of subtracting the low mids and you should be all set!
Are you referring to the Tascam DR-10X? That's the British one that allows for a larger, handheld microphone (and it's not included). The DR-10L has a 3.5mm port for a lavalier microphone and to my knowledge it does ship with the lav mic included all over the world. If you need a lav mic by itself though, I really like both Rode and Countryman lav mics.
Theres a recommendation to use countryman b3 or sennheiser me 2 instead of the one included in the tascam. Does it make a dramatic difference or i can get by with post like what u do here
Well, personally I haven't used the ME2, I'm sure it's great. I would definitely recommend the Countryman B3, love it's sound and it's outstanding form factor, *BUT* keep in mind the Countryman isn't compatible with the Tascam mic input. Sennheiser is with their 3.5mm jacks, but Countryman has the 3-pin mini connection.
Would any filmmaker ever use their camera without monitor to know what they're shooting?? So why do they commit the same crime with audio, & record their audio without monitoring it?? Madness!! This is why I highly recommend buying the Sony UWP-D11 wireless (if on a tight low budget, otherwise go Lectro/Wisycom/AudioLtd/Zaxcom/etc) rather than a Tascam DR10L. As for the lav mic itself, the Oscar SoundTech lav is a good low budget upgrade from the stock mic if the likes of a Sanken COS-11D is out of your reach.
safety track of -12db does the trick 99.9% of the time. people dont want to risk wireless with the space being filled up more and more and connection drops. Lectro/zaxcom I was considering but at the end of the day most people aren't running them into zoom f8's or sound devices. Theres a huge gap from getting an okay wireless system and a good one in price so thats my dilemma.
You can't just look to the spectrum to see what's going on. Mix with your ears, not your eyes ! A diagram do'esnt tell you anything about the sound being good or bad, your ears do.
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Everyone's been raving about the Tascam DR-10L. I've had mine for a few months but just recently started using it regularly, and I have not been impressed with the audio at all. This explains why and how to clean it up. Well done man, thanks. Btw your other audio source sounds super crispy 👌🏼
+Steve Michalak thanks my dude-yeah the other was the Rode SVMX-LOVE that mic(s)
Lower down mid frequencies - is the answer to make lavalier microphones sound a little bit cleaner and professional. Thank you Oliver!
Lowering your lows can rescue your vocals when poorly recorded, but the best quality improvement I've found with lav mics is to move them way further down your chest than what you've got there. Move it another 4-6 inches lower. You'll lose that throat rumble and it will sound perfectly natural.
NightHawkInLight I do agree, but too far down and you'll lose a meaningful signal--as most all lavs have an omnidirectional polar pattern.
True, it's a balance. The mic I use tends to record hot so I have no trouble moving it as far away as I like.
NightHawkInLight which mic do you use? My Countryman EMW is excellent with high-end clarity, and I will tend to use it when the mic needs to be concealed under clothing--further muffling the sound.
JK MIC-J 044 on the recommendation of TH-cam reviews. I've been happy with it. My recent videos are recorded all with that mic with minimal post processing besides levels and some compression.
No way! I couldn't imagine getting a good sound from such a cheap mic - I will have to check that one out.
I record dialogue with the Rode Filmmaker Wireless Lav mic. I recently shot a short film and was having a hard time with equing the dialogue tracks to make them sound more clearer. I went through tons of youtube tutorials and tried what they did and it didn't work. I used the technique you showed in this video and it worked like a charm.
I LOVE hearing that
you could automatically cut the low frequencies in the menu of the tascam so that it removes them while recording. If you set it up properly in the menu settings then you get very crisp audio.
agree! I keep low cut on always! It seems to even clean up the clarity way above 2-12k as well...
Bryan Auer can i explain more please?
amazing how dropping 100-250hz can clean up muddy sounding vocal track... Good stuff man!
I appreciate the subtractive EQ insight. Thanks.
Cheers Oliver, I've been using lavs recently after years running my adk a6 into my camera and the muddiness was a surprise. I came to excatly the same conclusion as you in this vid! Was nice to see!
Thanks for sharing!
Wow, amazing video Oliver! You explain things very clearly and easily, I will definitely be using this technique to improve the sound quality of my DR-10L. Thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks Paul, really appreciate it!!
I've the joys of less than quiet neighbours who make it trickydoing anything TH-cam during the day. So as to not have to be totally nocturnal, I went with a lav mic and experienced the hateful, resonating, boomy, but muddy, sound issues you describe. Bought different lavs, some were less bad but none have sounded good.
Hopefully now I can take your info and figure how to use it in Audacity... Thanks!
Nice job on this Oliver I think it sounds better with the reflector. I just put one on Amazon on my wish list
Great video man. Been wondering about this for a minute. definitely useful information for my next video.
Been watching your stuff lately. I'm learning alot, thanks man!!
Great video, just got this Tascam. I was using ClipMic Digital and my iphone. Awesome mic, yet it broke on me 3x. Trying to learn how to use this device.
Great video, thanks Oliver!
WhoisMatt - thank you and love you
Hey Oliver terrific video. I just came across your channel and am already learning a lot. Subscribed! Thanks man.
Thanks brother!!
I primarily use this mic as backup on a wedding day, but I've found that when vows or toasts are being projected over a speaker, even when it's a good distance away, this lav likes to pick up that audio more than the person's natural voice... have you run into this issue at all? I've tested it against my RodeLink wireless lavs in the same situations and the Rodes perform much better...
Just found this! Super helpful and just what I was looking for!!!
So glad!
Very helpful, thanks. I'm sort of an audio apeman, my understanding's pretty primitive, but for sure I can hear muddiness. As a general approach to gaining more clarity you've shown this works and I'll definitely apply it when I have to use my mid-level mics. Thanks! Actually just got a DR-10L so I can let my talent off the leash but this will be broadly applicable.
I do a lot of zoom interviews where people don't have any gear and often this means reverb and muddy sounds .. Can you make a video about that?
Would you suggest switching out the stock mic that comes with the Tascam DR 10L with a Sennheiser ME 2-II ?
They are very similar
Hi Oliver! Just subscribed to your channel! Great video! Question, do you think you could do this same episode, but just strictly use the adobe audition EQ settings? Im trying to step up my audio skills and knowledge and I myself just ordered the Tascam DR-10L. If not no sweat. Just curious lol...Great stuff man and keep up the good work!
Thanks Ben Affleck. Nice tips. I do find that the clip was pretty thin in the end too tho. But lav's are rubbish for finding bottom in voice.
So helpful my guy good stuff keep uploading!
Good morning, afternoon, evening...you had it covered lol, liked that
Well, you just never know when people watch... so... 😂
Grabbing two of these very soon already have a dr-40 70and 60 will be cleaner than any wireless I own
Thanks for this informative video Oliver. At what point in the process described in this video would you apply adaptive noise reduction (in either Premiere Pro or Audition CC) to remove a low level of noise on a single vocal track, if it was needed (i.e. for low level of ambient noise/hiss)? Before or after EQ adjustments? I ask because I'm trying to improve a vocal track recorded on a Sennheiser lav in a small, boxy room with a high ceiling.
Great question and I've heard many opinions on noise reduction signal chain, and where exactly to perform it. Personally, I reduce first. Before compression especially. Simply because compression (and EQ to an extent) will manipulate the noise floor over time, and therefore I want a more exact and consistent print of everything to reduce the maximal amount of noise. Make sense?
Yes, thanks!@@OliverJHughes
When you use two lavs and a boom for recording dialogue bet. 2 people, which dialogue do u actually edit in post? The lav audio or the boom audio? Which one of those audios is actually used?
Boom, most every time - as it will typically be a better, fuller sound. The only reason to include a lav in recording is for backup in case of a boom mic failure.
@@OliverJHughes Thanks for answering really appreciate it 😊👍
how do i do this in premiere pro
Thanks for this! I'm getting the Zoom F1 recorder/lavalier and this tutorial will help it sound better.
Glad to hear it! Which lav are you getting?
The Zoom F1 lav kit comes with a lav. I'm not sure how good the lav is though... so it might need some tweaking in post!
OH gotcha, I read H1, even though you wrote F1! Awesome, I can't wait to hear it - send over some audio from it once you get a chance!
Do you recommend an upgrade in the actual mic?
Thanks
I just bought a Countryman B3 to test out with the DR10L! I'll get back to you!
you're a Pro! I love fab filters though on my IPAD....i'm cheap but love my fabfilters. I mostly make trance music but getting into film audio too....Keep amping the fun!
Thanks!
i totally just realized you can dual record on this little guy!
Bobby! Yes it's the best!
thanks Im getting one of these Mics. Can you show how to make it sound better in FCP. Much appreciated,
Great idea! I’ll work on it
This a brilliant video thanks - only problem for me is I'm FCPX - I'm now trying to find something similar.
mark shirley go look for either a graphic or parametric EQ plugin in FCPX and apply the same principles of subtracting the low mids and you should be all set!
Oliver J Hughes thanks - in the UK the Tascam DR10 doesn't come with a lav mic. Could you recommend a good value lav mic with the locking screw.
Are you referring to the Tascam DR-10X? That's the British one that allows for a larger, handheld microphone (and it's not included). The DR-10L has a 3.5mm port for a lavalier microphone and to my knowledge it does ship with the lav mic included all over the world. If you need a lav mic by itself though, I really like both Rode and Countryman lav mics.
Oliver J Hughes - sorry last time a did a search I could only get the unit but without the mic - just searched again and I can now get it with the mic
Great Video! You make it look effortless :)
Appreciate you
Theres a recommendation to use countryman b3 or sennheiser me 2 instead of the one included in the tascam. Does it make a dramatic difference or i can get by with post like what u do here
You can for sure get by with the included Tascam mic - it's not bad. But of course your quality will go up with a better lav!
Oliver J Hughes which better lav do u recommend? Thanks for answering
Well, personally I haven't used the ME2, I'm sure it's great. I would definitely recommend the Countryman B3, love it's sound and it's outstanding form factor, *BUT* keep in mind the Countryman isn't compatible with the Tascam mic input. Sennheiser is with their 3.5mm jacks, but Countryman has the 3-pin mini connection.
Oliver J Hughes im looking on this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/294555-REG/Countryman_B3W4FF05BSR_B3_Omnidirectional_Lavalier_Microphone.html
Oh wow, that's awesome! Yeah that would definitely work.
Is there a feature in DaVinci 16 that enables someone to do this?
Ever find a solution to this in Davinci/Fairlight? Was wondering the same thing.
Sure, either use the equalizer in Fairlight by double clicking on the track eq symbol on the right, ore use the vocal channel audio effect
Thanks!
Thanks, those fab plugins r not cheap!
This can be done in any eq, the only thing is that you'll not ber able to see the dancing waveform
"we had a cop situation I guess" lol
I know... I know... Install it in a Tin Can Right!!!! Hahahahahahahaha
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Would any filmmaker ever use their camera without monitor to know what they're shooting?? So why do they commit the same crime with audio, & record their audio without monitoring it?? Madness!!
This is why I highly recommend buying the Sony UWP-D11 wireless (if on a tight low budget, otherwise go Lectro/Wisycom/AudioLtd/Zaxcom/etc) rather than a Tascam DR10L.
As for the lav mic itself, the Oscar SoundTech lav is a good low budget upgrade from the stock mic if the likes of a Sanken COS-11D is out of your reach.
safety track of -12db does the trick 99.9% of the time. people dont want to risk wireless with the space being filled up more and more and connection drops. Lectro/zaxcom I was considering but at the end of the day most people aren't running them into zoom f8's or sound devices. Theres a huge gap from getting an okay wireless system and a good one in price so thats my dilemma.
You can't just look to the spectrum to see what's going on. Mix with your ears, not your eyes !
A diagram do'esnt tell you anything about the sound being good or bad, your ears do.