Feeling awakened doesn't mean you are already liberated from suffering. The Veda ( specifically Bhagavad-Gita) explains that not matter how much spiritual knowledge you have acquired, not matter how much detachment you have been able to develop from becoming involved in the karmic activities, there is always a chance to suffer (although for many spiritualized souls it might be a little suffering) because mukti ( liberation) can happen only after leaving this material body. However, the goal of spiritual practices is to purify our consciousness so that our heart becomes clear to develop love for God, Krsna. In so doing, we might continue to suffer but we'll not become affected in our continues effort to love the Lord--which is the only guarantee to go back to the spiritual world where there is not death, diseases, pain, etc.... Bhakti is the science by which we can learn how to love God. 🙏🙏
Enlightenment is recognition of truth. It is not result of spiritual acrobatics. If you recognize the truth and live by it, then you can bear the suffering without complaining. Enlightenment cannot cure suffering. Enlightenment can give strength to bear suffering if not cure it.
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I have always wondered whether the awakening of a monk is sometimes different from that of a householder. I am surprised that all the Rishis and Avatars were householders, yet in modern times, awakening is mostly defined by the monk’s way of life. Traditionally, many of the great Rishis and Avatars in Indian spirituality did indeed live as householders, fulfilling their roles in society while also achieving spiritual awakening. The distinction between the householder and the monk path has always existed, with both considered valid paths to enlightenment. However, over time, especially in modern contexts, the monk’s life has come to be more associated with spiritual attainment due to the way certain traditions and teachings have evolved, particularly in the modern age, where monasticism has been idealized. The householder path, or grihastha ashrama, has always been an integral part of the spiritual journey, with many texts highlighting that spiritual growth can occur within the complexities of family and social responsibilities. In contrast, monks, who take vows of renunciation and asceticism, often become symbols of detachment, which is seen as a clear route to self-realization in some schools of thought. It’s a fascinating shift, especially considering the balance that both paths embody-one grounded in the world and responsibilities, the other in withdrawal and detachment. It makes you wonder whether the increasing emphasis on monasticism might be a response to modern challenges, where, for many, spiritual life often feels disconnected from daily life. What’s your take on this shift?
There’s a balance. If you fall down and brake your leg it will hurt but you won’t sit there while healing and say “ now how will I eat, who will come take care of me, what if I lose everything” maybe you’ll think those things but they won’t hold you down.
I think he said somewhere that there is truth and there are opinions. You are the truth; everything else is mere opinion. The whole is experiencing itself through you. You are that which is experiencing itself through you, and everything else is just opinion, including Buddha, Osho, Krishnamurti, and Plato. This self is the ground and precedes all thought, even scientific measurements. So, one should know this self. th-cam.com/video/KjTWKUM6FWM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Avd3elpxCgnXvnd_
These days, after watching 8 to 10 videos of Osho, everyone starts speaking slowly with pauses and claims to be enlightened. It’s quite amusing-no offense intended, apologies in advance!
Feeling awakened doesn't mean you are already liberated from suffering. The Veda ( specifically Bhagavad-Gita) explains that not matter how much spiritual knowledge you have acquired, not matter how much detachment you have been able to develop from becoming involved in the karmic activities, there is always a chance to suffer (although for many spiritualized souls it might be a little suffering) because mukti ( liberation) can happen only after leaving this material body. However, the goal of spiritual practices is to purify our consciousness so that our heart becomes clear to develop love for God, Krsna. In so doing, we might continue to suffer but we'll not become affected in our continues effort to love the Lord--which is the only guarantee to go back to the spiritual world where there is not death, diseases, pain, etc.... Bhakti is the science by which we can learn how to love God. 🙏🙏
Thats well said- Best
Enlightenment is recognition of truth. It is not result of spiritual acrobatics. If you recognize the truth and live by it, then you can bear the suffering without complaining. Enlightenment cannot cure suffering. Enlightenment can give strength to bear suffering if not cure it.
Well said - Best
1 karma and lack of truthful righteous life
2 pathway for learning how to defeat
3 for divine mission ( self mastery)
Those are nice thoughts- Best
Can anyone tell me who is the speaker?
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This video appears when I was looking for something like this I hope it's good, I almost have no doubt it will be. Lately the videos I look for don't seem to exist, if they do they must be in a language I don't understand or maybe I should do the research and make my own videos lol.
Hope you find what you are searching for. - Best
It's because you are not awakened, the meaning of been awakened is that you get out of the program, you are not affected by it.
But you still have to live in the real world. Particularly when somebody has a family, his concerns are real, right?
I have always wondered whether the awakening of a monk is sometimes different from that of a householder. I am surprised that all the Rishis and Avatars were householders, yet in modern times, awakening is mostly defined by the monk’s way of life.
Traditionally, many of the great Rishis and Avatars in Indian spirituality did indeed live as householders, fulfilling their roles in society while also achieving spiritual awakening. The distinction between the householder and the monk path has always existed, with both considered valid paths to enlightenment. However, over time, especially in modern contexts, the monk’s life has come to be more associated with spiritual attainment due to the way certain traditions and teachings have evolved, particularly in the modern age, where monasticism has been idealized.
The householder path, or grihastha ashrama, has always been an integral part of the spiritual journey, with many texts highlighting that spiritual growth can occur within the complexities of family and social responsibilities. In contrast, monks, who take vows of renunciation and asceticism, often become symbols of detachment, which is seen as a clear route to self-realization in some schools of thought.
It’s a fascinating shift, especially considering the balance that both paths embody-one grounded in the world and responsibilities, the other in withdrawal and detachment. It makes you wonder whether the increasing emphasis on monasticism might be a response to modern challenges, where, for many, spiritual life often feels disconnected from daily life. What’s your take on this shift?
There’s a balance. If you fall down and brake your leg it will hurt but you won’t sit there while healing and say “ now how will I eat, who will come take care of me, what if I lose everything” maybe you’ll think those things but they won’t hold you down.
@ But that's the error, you still think you are your thoughts.
I think he said somewhere that there is truth and there are opinions. You are the truth; everything else is mere opinion. The whole is experiencing itself through you. You are that which is experiencing itself through you, and everything else is just opinion, including Buddha, Osho, Krishnamurti, and Plato. This self is the ground and precedes all thought, even scientific measurements. So, one should know this self.
th-cam.com/video/KjTWKUM6FWM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Avd3elpxCgnXvnd_
These days, after watching 8 to 10 videos of Osho, everyone starts speaking slowly with pauses and claims to be enlightened. It’s quite amusing-no offense intended, apologies in advance!
Akash…Osho is a great speaker - Best