Reminds me of one of Cimoo's meme videos. "Dad, why is my sister named Rose?" "Because your mother loves roses." "Thanks, dad!" "No problem, Super Polymerization!"
I’m genuinely curious why Joseph was so baffled at the way the Lab player played the hand. He waited for a spell to be added to activate EEV, assuming that it was a highly important spell. The opponent wanted to be sure to get value off of their EEV instead of just blinding it in draw to get punished, at least what it seems like to me. The only real confusing play was glitch pop planet not unicorn
I think they only used Glitch to get a search off Lady but they wanted to keep Unicorn on the field to both guarantee the typical continuous spell search and stop MBT from special summoning another Kash before getting a look at his hand with EEV.
They played the hand in such a way that they were far more likely to be punished by blowouts like duster and LS, and had absolutely no backup plan if that EEV hadn't won the game on the spot. There are far more hands that punish that kind of play than hands that reward it. The goal of EEV should not be to loop for as many cards as possible, it should be to take relevant equalizers out of the opponent's hand while gaining perfect information, then using that perfect information to correctly play your remaining interaction, ensuring you find yourself in a winning position. Holding for that long makes no sense whatsoever
@@bencrandall-malcolm8303 I played this DC with Lab (no floodgates I promise) and I don't think I encountered a single Duster or LS. I wouldn't think shotgunning EEV out the gate for a limited FD or the relatively niche LS would be a great play, in the current format especially, and since MBT didn't fire them at the start of his turn the Lab player was confident he wasn't playing them. Letting him activate the Unicorn so they could ensure popping all Births in hands limits Kash's combo significantly and leaving Unicorn on the field prevents additional 7 summoning and Evenly. Personally I also like to make sure my EEV is going to do something before firing. If MBT had been playing Kash engine in a more monster heavy build like Scareclaw, Tear, VS, or P.U.N.K. or had been splashing it into a Trap focused deck like Lab or Traptrix I don't know that the Lab player's follow-up would've been enough. They had the single pop with Lovely off Big Welcome, which could've been used on anything left in hand, or they could've gone for Cooclock to get Daruma online but without the other furnitures their recursion is diminished. I just don't think shotgunning EEV is the best call since the BO1 environment is so diverse and waiting for deck info is preferable. Yeah you get blown out sometimes but that's just how it goes.
I think the ghastly glitch was them realizing they click it too early because mbt could have had more names, so leaving unicorn was better than leaving a fenrir for example (although they could've summoned clock, return it and use it with daruma). However, once they pop'd the entire hand, they had no fear of that so they popped unicorn.
The lab play actually makes sense because the easiest follow up after EEV for kash would be another kash monster… unless you leave the unicorn on field and pop the spell it tutors. Then the only real play could be to have arise heart.
Couple goals. True actual couple goals: “You’re very strange, but I love you.” “Yeah, and you married me, what’s wrong with you?” That plus the Alpha Argument. I can confirm, that’s how it works for common names. Doubly so if we share last names as well.
Ah yes, as a Mikanko player myself, I too sometimes forget that even non-Mikanko monsters equipped with a Mikanko equip spell cannot be destroyed by card effects.
It's why you always deal with the spells and ignore the monsters 99% of the time. The monsters are just basic bodies that prevent their controller from taking battle damage if there's no equip spell on their side of the field for at least Hu-Li's targeting protection.
I payed attention to how many Kash decks, dragon ruler engines, and zoo engines I saw on my 8 hour climb to dlv20 over the last 3 days. Kash was surprisingly popular after having dropped off a lot last month. Zero dragon rulers spotted, and zero zoo engines spotted. No dridents summoned in 8 hours getting to max level. Good to see zoo is busted and will be everywhere KEKW
Zoo isn't like garbage, but sometimes I think people under appreciate how much MR4 helped Zoo be "the deck", it was basically the only deck that could access it's entire extra deck toolbox without jumping through a couple of hoops, Zoo probably still would have been the best deck but like Blue Eyes proved in 2016, it's a lot easier to be the strongest in the room when everyone else's arms are broken.
In MD, Tri-Zoo was maaaybe third best in the format because stuff like Eva and several Eldlich stuff never got hit while Zeus was at 1. So yeah any success Zoos ever ended up seeing was purely due to other decks being hit in formats. MD proved that at near full power amongst Drytron/Eldlich/Tri-Zoo trinity, Tri-Zoo was maybe Tier 2 generously if T2 existed. In tournaments, it was strong because of side decking backrow hate and Kaizus
@@monkeylemur I agree with the statement, but TriZoo's playability in MD 2 years ago really doesn't say much about full power TCG Zoo, the cardpools are so drastically different you would comparing decks that have entirely different gameplans, strengths, weaknesses, and environments. to sum up my point, TriZoo is not Zoodiac, it is Tribrigade feat drident and Zeus.
>remember that deck that was good in 2016 >I bet it's still totally broken now Yeah totally dude, dragon rulers are also about to take over any day now
I've said it a myriad of times, and I'll say it once more. Zoodiac in 2023 is not very good compared to what we have now, and they will be delegated to a splashable utility engine at best. This is anecdotal, but its crazy how every single deck I've seen with Zoo in it in recent times has used it exclusively as a way to turbo out Zeus instead. Nobody is playing Zoo cards because they're strong, they're playing them because they're fast and there's a massive difference between the two.
In the entire event, all I been running into is kash, dragon link, lab, swordsoul and stun decks. The only time I saw zoo was someone playing it in a vernusylph naturia deck.
I still believe you were right about Zoo. But, come on, Kash? Zoo are the most legal they've been in years, and all you can think is "let me play them in the k-ASS-tira. Both archetypes make XYZs, they surely go together".
This video literally is just kash lmao So joseph saying zoo is broken is literally just the modern version of tdl raving about how judgement is broken to hell and back. That is so funny Also now that i think about it there are so many baby names you can get from yugioh cards.
0:29 Another victory for the "please ban Riseheart" team. Doesn't matter that he lost. We all know he should've won and MBT was also playing Riseheart.
It's weird to imagine the possibility of MBT as a dad, but I feel like he'd be good at it. Definitely not as a daddy though, this is the bottomest twink to ever twink.
I've been decisively convinced that not only is Zoo bad, but Broadbull can come back to 3 and that wouldn't change. God, if the me from 5 years ago heard me say that I'd have a self-inflicted stab wound.
I think, if we unban everything, just full power zoo, it could compete without being broken, but I am a newer player so maybe I cant really grasp the power of these cards, it's just what I feel playing the game .
Broadbull can probably come back at 1 or so right now, and it would not change a goddamn thing. The problem is that I hate how Broadbull search is generic, and it's gonna break something else
@@monkeylemurExactly. It is a generic rank 4 with the only limitation on what beast warrior it can search being that the cards must be able to be Normal summoned. Have to be fair and say that infernal flame banshee is similar in that regard. Gotta call it like it is even if it is not a a year old yet. It may search an archetype that is just now gradually getting good cards, but it just takes time. You just enjoy it and keep in mind that it may even take years, but it will break something.
Thank you Jules, took what seemed to be a classic "Joseph whines for 15 minutes" video and sprinkled in a good amount of "Joseph massively regrets everything he's ever said" content to balance it out.
For those wondering why he messed up on that Mikanko duel, the equipped monster can not be destroyed by card effect. He should have actually targeted the spell instead.
I want to see MBT bring his most degenerate Zoo list to a feature duel against Josh Schmidt playing his Naturia Runick to determine once and for all how broken Zoo is.
in the last duel, what is the point of summoning ariseheart with scarekash if your opponent is on kashtira and you will be likely to trigger zeus again next turn ?
I understand this is a zoodiac did but can someone tell me how battleball works? As in if the superheavy syncro needs a superheavy non tuner you can still syncro it
Did…did we make a video that destroys Joseph’s argument and then upload it to his own channel…? I mean damn that’s a bold move cotton, let’s see if it pays off! 😂
Bricking your Kashtira deck with useless engine while also clogging your extra deck just for a heavily discounted Arise-Heart, sure is a "broken" way to play huh
Joseph at the end of the movie gonna be like "Raye Galatea Mo-Ye Rothschild, you were named after the 3 bravest women I ever knew"
Wheres ecclesia
@@alphanbuster9292 His other daughter is named Burstinatrix Ecclesia Aegirine Ramram Rothschild
@@MomirViggwilv Kitkallos has to be in there somewhere
But his favorite daughters name's is marinecess blue tang.
She is indeed the White Woman Jumpscare™
MBT's son is gonna be named Clayman in honor of the adversary that emerged triumphantly against him in combat.
unless it's during war, then they will be Insect Knight for the unmatched battle prowess
Isn't Clayman his PTSD trigger?
Man, I'm still so mad that HERO player in Duel Links messed up the OTK with Clayman; it could've been GLORIOUS
We wont ever let him forget
🤣🤣🤣
I love how MBTs chat collectively loves Jillian. She's delightful
how could you not love her
Honestly, I would prefer to watch a Jillian stream than a MBT stream.
Jillian plays an important role in the community of being a normal fucking person for chat to interact with.
You sinful, she is his wife
@@gbatista20sister*
Galatea roughly translates to "She who is a Milky white"...which given her parents...
Love the part in the middle where Jillian starts talking about her necklace. I hope she finds it!
you love it? you’re happy she lost her necklace? what’s wrong with you?
@@SpiceLettuceHe called jillian's interaction with chat in MBT's live wholesome
Yeah, we really hope she finds it.
It's so funny getting this recommended months later and seeing that Drident basically did nothing in the MD meta.
I forgot that they even exist nowadays, what a fall from grace from a supposed Tier 0 deck 😂
@@OnlyTheStrongest116I mean it’s not supposed, they were tier 0 and clearly the best deck ever up until Tear
My favourite part here was when Zoodiac did that thing he said they’d do and appeared in one (1) list.
Nice. 👍🏽
Reminds me of one of Cimoo's meme videos.
"Dad, why is my sister named Rose?"
"Because your mother loves roses."
"Thanks, dad!"
"No problem, Super Polymerization!"
MBT is like that one crazy guy in every town thats run around with a "The World Will End" shilds.
Took u this long to figure it out? 😂
I’m genuinely curious why Joseph was so baffled at the way the Lab player played the hand. He waited for a spell to be added to activate EEV, assuming that it was a highly important spell. The opponent wanted to be sure to get value off of their EEV instead of just blinding it in draw to get punished, at least what it seems like to me. The only real confusing play was glitch pop planet not unicorn
I think they only used Glitch to get a search off Lady but they wanted to keep Unicorn on the field to both guarantee the typical continuous spell search and stop MBT from special summoning another Kash before getting a look at his hand with EEV.
They played the hand in such a way that they were far more likely to be punished by blowouts like duster and LS, and had absolutely no backup plan if that EEV hadn't won the game on the spot. There are far more hands that punish that kind of play than hands that reward it.
The goal of EEV should not be to loop for as many cards as possible, it should be to take relevant equalizers out of the opponent's hand while gaining perfect information, then using that perfect information to correctly play your remaining interaction, ensuring you find yourself in a winning position. Holding for that long makes no sense whatsoever
@@bencrandall-malcolm8303 I played this DC with Lab (no floodgates I promise) and I don't think I encountered a single Duster or LS. I wouldn't think shotgunning EEV out the gate for a limited FD or the relatively niche LS would be a great play, in the current format especially, and since MBT didn't fire them at the start of his turn the Lab player was confident he wasn't playing them.
Letting him activate the Unicorn so they could ensure popping all Births in hands limits Kash's combo significantly and leaving Unicorn on the field prevents additional 7 summoning and Evenly.
Personally I also like to make sure my EEV is going to do something before firing. If MBT had been playing Kash engine in a more monster heavy build like Scareclaw, Tear, VS, or P.U.N.K. or had been splashing it into a Trap focused deck like Lab or Traptrix I don't know that the Lab player's follow-up would've been enough. They had the single pop with Lovely off Big Welcome, which could've been used on anything left in hand, or they could've gone for Cooclock to get Daruma online but without the other furnitures their recursion is diminished.
I just don't think shotgunning EEV is the best call since the BO1 environment is so diverse and waiting for deck info is preferable. Yeah you get blown out sometimes but that's just how it goes.
I think the ghastly glitch was them realizing they click it too early because mbt could have had more names, so leaving unicorn was better than leaving a fenrir for example (although they could've summoned clock, return it and use it with daruma). However, once they pop'd the entire hand, they had no fear of that so they popped unicorn.
I think they just saw a tuner on field and panicked lol I do that sometimes
The lab play actually makes sense because the easiest follow up after EEV for kash would be another kash monster… unless you leave the unicorn on field and pop the spell it tutors. Then the only real play could be to have arise heart.
I think it just makes sense resolving EEV after he added a spell from unicorn
Couple goals. True actual couple goals:
“You’re very strange, but I love you.”
“Yeah, and you married me, what’s wrong with you?”
That plus the Alpha Argument. I can confirm, that’s how it works for common names. Doubly so if we share last names as well.
Ah yes, as a Mikanko player myself, I too sometimes forget that even non-Mikanko monsters equipped with a Mikanko equip spell cannot be destroyed by card effects.
Oh, that was it! I saw this live and then again in the video and both times was clueless about this
It's why you always deal with the spells and ignore the monsters 99% of the time. The monsters are just basic bodies that prevent their controller from taking battle damage if there's no equip spell on their side of the field for at least Hu-Li's targeting protection.
Yes. I know the feeling. Itz strange.
For how long can he cope
I payed attention to how many Kash decks, dragon ruler engines, and zoo engines I saw on my 8 hour climb to dlv20 over the last 3 days. Kash was surprisingly popular after having dropped off a lot last month. Zero dragon rulers spotted, and zero zoo engines spotted. No dridents summoned in 8 hours getting to max level. Good to see zoo is busted and will be everywhere KEKW
Same, I got to max level quickly and easily with Jeff Leonard exodia FTK
The people in chat thirsting for shuraig resonated with me
Shuraig is my husband 😌
@@Ragtter can you share for a person in need?
Galatea is also one of the moons of Neptune, and a prominent character in the anime Claymore. Love the name later when it became a card.
Zoo isn't like garbage, but sometimes I think people under appreciate how much MR4 helped Zoo be "the deck", it was basically the only deck that could access it's entire extra deck toolbox without jumping through a couple of hoops, Zoo probably still would have been the best deck but like Blue Eyes proved in 2016, it's a lot easier to be the strongest in the room when everyone else's arms are broken.
In MD, Tri-Zoo was maaaybe third best in the format because stuff like Eva and several Eldlich stuff never got hit while Zeus was at 1. So yeah any success Zoos ever ended up seeing was purely due to other decks being hit in formats. MD proved that at near full power amongst Drytron/Eldlich/Tri-Zoo trinity, Tri-Zoo was maybe Tier 2 generously if T2 existed. In tournaments, it was strong because of side decking backrow hate and Kaizus
@@monkeylemur I agree with the statement, but TriZoo's playability in MD 2 years ago really doesn't say much about full power TCG Zoo, the cardpools are so drastically different you would comparing decks that have entirely different gameplans, strengths, weaknesses, and environments.
to sum up my point, TriZoo is not Zoodiac, it is Tribrigade feat drident and Zeus.
"Mikanko is Numeron for girlfails" might be the best chat message I've ever seen
Galatea is such a nice name for someone who started out with “Ib” of all things, only marginally better than “I’m Duck!”
>remember that deck that was good in 2016
>I bet it's still totally broken now
Yeah totally dude, dragon rulers are also about to take over any day now
I mean full powered zoo would still be broken, ocg did no banlist tournaments and zoo was second to tear
@@aure0521no banlist tournaments mean nothing. People just play whatever they are comfortable with. You need time for everyone to lab the format out.
@@aure0521But because of Broadbull.
No banlist tournaments are also slightly different when you have shit like Shock Master in the extra deck
@@aure0521Ratpier at 3 is busted. The rest of zoo, even broadbull and rat at 2 is a solid supplemental engine at best.
Can’t believe how meta warping and broken freeing the rulers and zoo ended up being.
We are one youtube video away from seeing dragon rulers being used as extenders for their respective attributes (Earth DR for G-Golem/Vernusylph etc.)
It didn't really happen lol
Thanks Jules. Love all the editing of mbt contradicting himself😂
Description says this is a Jules edit special.
@@Hotshot3334 shoot
I've said it a myriad of times, and I'll say it once more. Zoodiac in 2023 is not very good compared to what we have now, and they will be delegated to a splashable utility engine at best.
This is anecdotal, but its crazy how every single deck I've seen with Zoo in it in recent times has used it exclusively as a way to turbo out Zeus instead. Nobody is playing Zoo cards because they're strong, they're playing them because they're fast and there's a massive difference between the two.
In the entire event, all I been running into is kash, dragon link, lab, swordsoul and stun decks. The only time I saw zoo was someone playing it in a vernusylph naturia deck.
‘Son, I named you after the thing I love most’
‘Thanks dad!’
‘No problem, Elemental HERO Stratos’
6:23 I now have the image in my head of Jillian suplexing another palette swapped Jillian
Nice Hearthstone content, should name him Max Xavier Charles so you still keep maxx c and a backwards professor X thrown in for good measure
I know they haven’t done anything yet but it’s still nuts that barrage is at 3
The sun isn't real, fly higher Icarus
Pretty sure barrage at 30 wouldn't do a goddamn thing either
@@timsuu8991should try it for limit test
@@timsuu8991 I refuse to believe that anything that summons from deck for free isn't crazy
Always love when Jillian stops by to chat
It's all fun and games until Broadbull comes off the list
MBT's mistake was not playing Labrynth Zoo. Its the only deck that can turbo out Zoodiac Combo.
The MBT boy "Nibeiru Sphere Mode Rothschild"
Man Jules did an incredible Job with the Editing here :D
Alpha Jillian concept is hilarious
I’m kinda new to modern yugioh and I’m glad to see Joseph eat shit against the same decks I have trouble against lmao
I still believe you were right about Zoo. But, come on, Kash? Zoo are the most legal they've been in years, and all you can think is "let me play them in the k-ASS-tira. Both archetypes make XYZs, they surely go together".
4:39 HOLY CRAP, HE FINALLY PRONOUNCED IT CORRECTLY!
RIP Gala-tea
I love that he was angry his opponent won labyrinth in the most unoptimal way possible.
This video is so much better thanks to it being a gameplay+podcast
Damn bro really finna die on this hill😂
"Everyone is wrong except me" Its a nice name for a series
Ok, you can't name the boy Maxx C, but you could name him Maxxy, short for MaxxCmilian
*extremely loud incorrect buzzer*
Thanks for the content Mr BT
This video literally is just kash lmao
So joseph saying zoo is broken is literally just the modern version of tdl raving about how judgement is broken to hell and back. That is so funny
Also now that i think about it there are so many baby names you can get from yugioh cards.
I just want to remind people that we're 7 rulers in and they're doing absolutely nothing.
@@Jokoko2828make them 12 and they still won't do anything
@@مرتجىصفاءاحمدThey might but it won’t be anything all too interesting
Yugioh aside, I think that is the first "I prayed to Saint Anthony" I think I've ever heard outstide my own family
THE FOOL DOUBLED DOWN
0:29 Another victory for the "please ban Riseheart" team. Doesn't matter that he lost. We all know he should've won and MBT was also playing Riseheart.
It's weird to imagine the possibility of MBT as a dad, but I feel like he'd be good at it.
Definitely not as a daddy though, this is the bottomest twink to ever twink.
I've been decisively convinced that not only is Zoo bad, but Broadbull can come back to 3 and that wouldn't change.
God, if the me from 5 years ago heard me say that I'd have a self-inflicted stab wound.
I think, if we unban everything, just full power zoo, it could compete without being broken, but I am a newer player so maybe I cant really grasp the power of these cards, it's just what I feel playing the game .
Broadbull can probably come back at 1 or so right now, and it would not change a goddamn thing. The problem is that I hate how Broadbull search is generic, and it's gonna break something else
@@imanalligator9694broadbull is fine idk about raptier though
@@monkeylemurExactly. It is a generic rank 4 with the only limitation on what beast warrior it can search being that the cards must be able to be Normal summoned.
Have to be fair and say that infernal flame banshee is similar in that regard. Gotta call it like it is even if it is not a a year old yet. It may search an archetype that is just now gradually getting good cards, but it just takes time. You just enjoy it and keep in mind that it may even take years, but it will break something.
@@monkeylemurIt’s just Tenki on a R4NK. That’s fine. It’s like if King of the Feral Imps was good.
"We can't have a Jillian kid"
Dawg, I couldn't even have one.
Thank you Jules, took what seemed to be a classic "Joseph whines for 15 minutes" video and sprinkled in a good amount of "Joseph massively regrets everything he's ever said" content to balance it out.
I love engaging with streamers video to help the engagement. Also whatever you say buddy
ZOODIACS MORE LIKE....POOODIACS
"zoo is good I promise"
Plays Kashtira
Whst happend to Purrely? I have seen more jank in master this month than Purrely
For those wondering why he messed up on that Mikanko duel, the equipped monster can not be destroyed by card effect. He should have actually targeted the spell instead.
I like it when he thinks he can get away with bullying children on ladder but then turns out some of the kids got hands.
3:39 is the best part of this video.
I want to see MBT bring his most degenerate Zoo list to a feature duel against Josh Schmidt playing his Naturia Runick to determine once and for all how broken Zoo is.
That Labrynth player was on a whole new level of playing the game... XD
All this video proves is that zoo kash would legit be better without baragge
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME MBT IS GONNA ROLL ME
11:46 I haven't played YGO in a while (still following card news). I can't believe Mathmech makes this now.
0:23 Oh hey that's me whining in chat (Do NOT craft VW in MD this deck is not it)
I mean it was at launch you just need to hope they unban vfd lmao
met out here shooting shots at the art crowd
i love that yt says this is hearthstone
*tips fedorah* M'kraker
I want someone like Jillian in my life, so wholesome and supportive and at same time funny
If jillian is pregnant congrats you 2. Lots of love and support from a random internet commenter!
outro aged like milk
crossout the maxx c into pass is the funniest thing ive ever seen and i have seen every type of misplay ever
I love the zoo engine in kashtira, it's such a good extender
in the last duel, what is the point of summoning ariseheart with scarekash if your opponent is on kashtira and you will be likely to trigger zeus again next turn ?
Whats the armor cards he's talking about at the start?
Zoo putting in the work here
Zoodiacs? More like POOdiacs, because they're BAD
So true
Hi MBT a regular vvisitor of your channel here , man just saying that your videos are really good and entertaining, hope best of luck 🤞
Why people miss true draco/zoo formar? Tell me one good thing about it
I understand this is a zoodiac did but can someone tell me how battleball works? As in if the superheavy syncro needs a superheavy non tuner you can still syncro it
yes because the synchro battleball summoned is treated as a special summon not a synchro summon
They're mid, Joseph. There's only one tier 0 archetype from 2017 that's good in Master Duel.
6:23 Jillian's reason to why NOT call her Daugther Jillian (Alpha Jillian? Beta Jillian)?
Did…did we make a video that destroys Joseph’s argument and then upload it to his own channel…? I mean damn that’s a bold move cotton, let’s see if it pays off! 😂
So its just splashable Zeus turbo for decks that just don’t use the extra deck really.
Okay, dear.
I thought you should know MBT, Galatea is Greek and the name means "she who is milk-white". It's a perfect name lol.
Bricking your Kashtira deck with useless engine while also clogging your extra deck just for a heavily discounted Arise-Heart, sure is a "broken" way to play huh
The other movie is Shrek 2 had me dead...
Oh boy, Joseph is taking some Ls for his takes currently
It also changed poorly
Ah another 18 mins of MBT suffering
There goes crazy old man MBT shouting about zoodiac again 😂
Honest reaction:
Huh¿
You can't be first nerds
Where’s MBT’s villain speech
Why did darkfluid have piercing, what card gave it to him?
Crystal heart, the card above it give out piercing damage
Why is heartstone a tag in this?
They dueled a zoo.
Another saturday another bad take of mbt dissproven.
Anyone surprised?
Shun the nunbelievers shuuuuuuuun shuuuuun
Ariseheart is my favorite Zoodiac