Been sayin it for years that he's one of the only people I've seen keep up with Em, he just doesnt sacrifice his message to please the critics he makes the music he wants. Hes somewhere right behind Black Thought and Andre 3000 in my top 5 but he still has the rest of his story to write.
Yes exactly Royce been nice in every aspect of hip hop, he has been underrated for years but he truly is the definition of hip hop with his writing, flow, production and performance. He is a beast
I mean it’s more so, because he really wasn’t around back in the day, and that’s because back then you needed to be on with someone, and he had fell out with Dre and em, so the little notoriety he had was due to that, but because Eminem linked back up with him, and helped him get clean creating slaughterhouse then doing the bad meets evil album he was able to get some looks, and from there he hasn’t let up and he took what he got from em and ran with it dropping mixtapes , linking up with premier dropping two classic solo albums... it’s making people listen and give him appreciation. He isn’t around here banging on the younger generation really he just doing him.
Royce, Lupe and Black Thought are the lyricists that I love that are omitted from the GOAT convo. Lupe, in particular, is very dense and layered. Black thought is potent. Royce is witty. All elite lyricists for different purposes.
Mach Richardson Finally!!! Someone acknowledging Lupe. In my opinion the most underrated emcee in the game. Royce and Black Thought are underrated too but they are acknowledged more than Lupe. People act like he don’t even exist. His catalog is mean!!
Mach Richardson To me Black Thought and Lupe in a different stratosphere lyrically, they better than anybody tbh. Royce dope af too but he not on lupe and BT level
Kot W underrated?? With the Soulja boy voice lol 😂 he has two classic his first two albums are like star wars and he’s won a Grammy award winner no he’s not underrated
Lupe is my favorite lyricist, Royce is in my top 10 and Black Thought is also in my top 10 and I’ve only heard a few songs and the freestyles that blew up last year.
If we didn't have a Black Thought walking around I'd say yes. He's in my top 5. Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch and Royce are in a category of their own. They are most talented and underappreciated lyricists in the game. Edit: You know what nah Royce is the GOAT. Even if Royce only had everything layers and after that's already an impressive body of work. Shit Thought is severely underrated but never overlooked. Royce is so ill I've been championing him since lyricists lounge vol 2.
I was going to put Pharoahe monch in my original comment. He's scary in terms of what he can produce with a pen and the fact he can deliver it. I still go back to internal affairs yearly.
The problem with Em as talented as he is his work has been on a decline. These three dudes only get better with time. Though that album this last Friday was really good.
@@nate1166 exactly, top 5 has to be Royce, Em, Crook, Benny the Butcher and Kid Vish for me. Not just because kid vishis is Royces brother, but because I actually think he is a very talented rapper.
I'll give it to lupe fiasco to be honest, I think he's well diverse as a lyricist and not many can match his pen game, not to mention he has some heavily slept on arguably classics.
sad that Lupe lost so much attention after his "fall off" period when he was trapped with Atlantic and forced into dropping mediocre records. the minute he escaped, he went and proved to everyone that he was never gone. tetsuo & youth (which we can thank Anonymous for allowing to be the version Lupe wanted), pharaoh heights, drogas wave...he truly is on a level that no one else can touch.
Royce is the perfect definition of growth. I've rocked with him for a long time. His pen game is undeniable. With so many great lyricists out there that don't get recognized it's hard to put Royce at #1. He's definitely not far from it by any means. Rhinestone Bandana ya bish
hes definitely a top tier lyracist, one of the best.. his 2nd verse on Caterpillar is as close to perfection as you can get. My personal favourite is Em & over the years I've seen em destroy people including greats, never has Royce been outshined even by em.. that's why bad meets evil works so well
@@Nunyabizness321 I agree it comes down to preference, but I believe none of those artists you named have a better discography than Royce. Black thoughts work with the roots is undeniable but lack solo efforts.
homer wisdom I hear you on that and agree on discography. His is better than the others. I was looking at it a little more from the perspective of just straight mic skill and lyricism but he’s no doubt right in that mix on that basis too imo.
Rhinestones are so nice, they shine so bright Especially at night After a hit of ecstasy, ain't that right Roy... ooh wait a minute I'm rambling. Hahah Rhinestone Bandana
The hype man that came in to blaze shit, Brought in by the white man like I came on a slave ship, in chains, the old master done turned his back on the only rapper that can match him and burn him on his own track with him
Man I been listening to Royce forever growing up in Detroit it's hard to miss him but he been dope he is absolutely one of the very best his future is bright and he is really needed right now everything he makes is outstanding he is the guy you want to carry the D on his shoulders 💯💯💯💯💯
Tbh when I first heard Royce on Slim Shady LP I didn’t think he was anything special. Not until I heard Boom is when I was fuckin with him. For the record tho Book Of Ryan is one of the greatest Hip Hop albums ever made and his classic album. Glad to see him start to get his props lately
Thank you for giving Royce the due respect! Maybe not THE greatest(cuz there’s no such thing imo) but easily one of the absolute greatest of all time. Rhinestone Bandannas!
@Christopher Carter you didn't know Hip hop was created by Blacks and Puerto Ricans so Pun is not a guest hip hop is world wide a matter a fact Hip hop comes from south Bronx NY if you are not from there your the guest
My Top three is Royce, Crooked and Em. The order changes according to who iv been listening to more recently, cause in my opinion all three are on the same level
My top not in order are Ka, lupe fiasco, Aesop rock, mf doom, elzhi, black thought, skyzoo, pharoahe monch, blu, talib kweli, Sean price, em, Kendrick, big l, big pun, billy woods, earl sweatshirt, Mach hommy, Royce 59 And most of the wu tang members I think a lot of these people are underrated
Royce is an elite MC/lyricist, and he's in my personal top 5. Dude is criminally underrated -- or better yet overlooked and underappreciated. And he's one of the rare cases of a top tier rapper who consistently puts out great projects. Side note: How did you make a whole video about his lyricism and not play any actual bars lol. Also...Rhinestone bandanas lol.
IsaiahChavezCA ... weak point... Royce isn’t so commercial ... he needs to be tested by attracting the hate that comes with top level... I would like to see him go back to back on high profile diss-tracks to see how well he performs ...
@@dianevrules Diane you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Your Avi and name tell me all this. Then your examples put the nails in the coffin. Stop doing crack.
Just saw this on Royce’s Instagram and watched the whole thing, then I had to come here just to comment. Eminem will always be my favourite rapper ever (my friend and I were saying after listening to his new album he’s just getting better and better) but I rank Royce VERY HIGH. One of the all time greatest lyricists ever. But over here in Australia we didn’t really seem to get his stuff readily available until TH-cam/Spotify etc (I’d only ever heard his stuff he did with Eminem but I always LOOOOVED what I heard) - as I got older I educated myself and I fell in love with his style. I learned a lot from this video too. And I got to see him with Eminem when they came to Australia last year and I flew interstate to see him with my mum, a 62 year old white Australian woman (we were at the concert for her birthday) who watched in awe and said “He’s incredible” and when we went back to our hotel we listened to the Book Of Ryan. Anyway, all I wanted to say is I have too much nostalgia and love for Eminem, the guy who got me into rap as a tiny child... but Royce is undeniably one of the most incredible lyricists ever. Love him. Following him on Instagram is a pleasure. Cannot wait for his next album, and am so excited to see what he does this time... Oh, and I used to watch you on Vine back in the day, and then I saw this video thought you did a great job.... SUBSCRIBED!
Oh yeah, he is definitely one of the best lyricist out there, no doubt. When he’s side to side on a track with Eminem, he really lyrically stands his fucking ground. Even I be shocked and taken aback by how Royce be lyrically violating and attacking the beat like that.
Justin Hunte (The Company Man) gives Lupe a lot of love and recognition. He was the host for TBD beforr Murs took over. Check his TBD breakdowns for Lupe on his channel.
Honestly I’ve never cared for him at all maybe I’m missing something but I just never thought he was an amazing lyricist everybody claims he is. To me besides Royce Kxng Crooked & Horseshoe Gang are the best rappers rn and 5 of the greatest of all time real shit
Lupe is def the GOAT lyricist. in whatever compartment whether as a storyteller, spitter, conceptual, etc hes top tier in all confinements and parts of lyricism
@jack ramirez and he was writing on Chronic 2001. First off, think what cha want bro, but back then I was in prison reading source magazines and listening to Hip Hop music all while beating fools like you up
Don't skip Lupe, Black Thought, Chino XL, crooked, Budden, skyzoo, brother Ali, Jean Grae, Elzhi, etc... but bruh Royce is immaculately Dope and lyrically inclined almost beyond understanding. This is a valid argument.
As far as his body of work over the last 15 years I would say he is . I thought he was better than Eminem when he dropped Death Is Certain in 2004 , but that's just me.
@@burdman1333 he ain't young, he's ghostwritten for a lot of people. Dude is almost 40. He been slept on for ages. Mos def is past eminem lyrically by a longshot, i take more than wordplay into account with lyricism. Eminem rarely uses anything but wordplay, and when he does do things besides wordplay he's passed by a lot of other MC's. He isn't as diverse as Mos Def and can't keep a common theme in well over 3/4ths of his songs.
Royce is dope!! I would put him in a list along with Sean Price, Prodigy, Masta Ace, Bad Azz (from the LBC Crew, not Lil Boosie), Canibus, 2pac, Black Thought and Big Herk. (No particular order)
I love bad but I gotta say evil is above him in terms of lyricism although when they get together it's really close. Tbh I'd rank him in my top 10 personal favorites and maybe top 5 or 6th for lyricism alone
Royce is top 20 most definitely, if we talking just lyricist and bars and technicalness, but before him I’d have to place...Black Thought, Roc Marciano, Big Pun, Big L,, Redman, Sean Price, Styles P, Jadakiss, Raekwon, Nas, Canibus, Royce Da 5’9”,Mos Def, Pharaoh Monch, Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, Kxng Crooked, Ras Kass, Kurupt, Andre 3000, Eminem, Jay Electionica, Killer Mike, Cyhi the Prince, E-40....
Great video...funny, detailed, and a great argument for Royce. PK is a hilarious host, you can feel the love/respect PK has for his friend. Royce is a bad man!
He’s one of the greatest lyricist of all TIME, since I bought Death Is Certain I knew this dude was a legend, he had a slow career, with flop albums like Independence Day but bounce back with The Bar Exam then was killing it with the Mixtapes. Then he got sober and became a 100 times better. I remember arguing with people in high school that this man was waaayyy better then Eminem. People been sleep No 🧢.
Jack Carver I wouldn’t say he demolished Em on every track, imho, this statement is not true, but they were pretty even. Royce did an amazing job on a lot of tracks, but Em too was completely savage. Right now, I feel like Em is better than Royce, it’s just the fact that hating on Em for no reason is trendy now, I’m not saying you’re doing that ofc, but a lot of people are doing it and the corny bars stuff? One of the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard, I’ll tell you, I heard some “not so good bars” just on a couple of songs from a couple of projects. But, as I was saying, right now Eminem is slightly better than Royce, but damn, Royce is a very close second. Man is a beast on the beat. Much love for both, I have both of them in my top 3, so all love and I respect your opinion, friend
Jack Carver big facts and you can make an argument that Em has gotten better because of Royce. Remember Em was putting out corny music, saying corny lines. Trying to hard to be overly complicated instead of just focus on making good music. Royce produced a few tracks off Ems new album and this is IMO Ems best album since Recovery.
AricAric18 forgetting Lupe, Black Thought, and Pharoah Monche. Eminem is about equal to those dudes, along with Royce. I can't say any of them are better. MF DOOM and Andre are behind by some.
*THE BEST LYRICISTS YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD 1. illogic (Don’t confuse him with Logic. Illogic is one of the most intelligent, introspective, and profound writers to ever grace the mic. His poetry and descriptive language is unmatched). 2. Akala- He is extremely skilled and intelligent. His ideas are studied at major universities, and he has an incredible mastery of hip hop and music in general. His knowledge of history gives him a true understanding of the causes and cycles that occur and how they relate to current social issues today. 3. Greydon Square - He also one of the best writers in hip hop. He probably has the most in depth understanding of science and mathematics of any rapper I’ve seen, and his metaphors are often layered with scientific and mathematic references and concepts. 4. Aesop Rock- While often extremely abstract, his lyrical ability should not be overlooked. His metaphors are often extremely complex, and his ability to include hidden meanings and concepts rivals that of some of the best writers in literature. Not to mention, he has the highest vocabulary in hip hop. 5. Hemlock Ernst- Not only is he a great musician, but he has an incredible poetic and linguistic ability to create rhyme schemes that relate to some of the thought processes we all face when dealing with major philosophical questions of the common man’s plight of daily existence
Word I'm glad someone did this video! Personally Royce Da 5'9" is unequivocally my #1 favorite Hip Hop artist of all-time. Def a huge inspiration and influence for me. "Rhinestone Bandanas"
Royce has been one of my favorites since like 99 when I would hear him and Em spit those verses on different stations with lines like "I could jump out a bottomless pit and land at the top". He gets better with time
Royce has been my #1 for a fucking while. I am originally actually a metalhead, i got into hip hop starting with immortal technique. I eventually began to become more accepting of hip hop and listened to eminem, where i then found royce da 5'9. It took me a little bit but i began to explore royce's catalog after becoming more familiar with what hip hop was about and BARS. I found very soon after that royce is straight the fuck up #1. Royce is insanely talented, ahead of eminem, nas, everyone else. King Los is close but evidently, to me, nobody can pass Royce. Making my day that people are beginning to recognize the beast himself for who he really is. His insane talent. His wisdom. Royce #1 forever.
@mentally endangered trust me. I've listened to everything by both of them.. Eminem is far better. There's no need for me to argue any further. Everyone knows this lol
Facts, Royce doesn't connect to listeners the same way. Not as versatile but pretty damn versatile. Em does every style, even horrorcore and chopping, pop songs
I was so fukkn excited when Royce done a verse on my fav album of all time "Abominationz" by Twiztid That one line "Riding around with an army gun that's modified Down to die but I'm tryna keep my style alive" 💥💥 Rhinestone Bandana
I can’t put anyone ahead of Rakim as an all time lyricist but Royce is personally in my top 3 favorites and I agree with everything posted here. I’ve been trying to school people to Royce since 2000.
Lyrically, All- Time, I got: Lupe Fiasco Black Thought MF DOOM Nas Eminem Royce da 5'9 Pharoahe Monch Talib Kweli Ghostface Killah Sa-Roc Currently, I Got: Lupe Fiasco Black Thought Kendrick Lamar Sa-Roc Rapsody Conway The Machine Benny The Butcher Royce da 5'9 Cyhi The Prynce Big KRIT
Royce is dope. But he gets outshined by Eminem almost everytime. I think he's been putting in work for sure though. But I still think Jadakiss, Styles p, Eminem and even Crooked I is better than Royce. There's more I could mention. But respect to his skills. I'm not mad if someone thinks he is the best.
He's brilliant, really underappreciated and not really known for his own stuff. Obviously his work with Em is real good and i found myself enjoying a lot of his parts more than Shadys
Royce one of the greatest lyricists ever in Rap history, no questions. Always about expanding his knowledge nd improving his craft. Rhinestone Bandanas. Good shiet.💯💯
Without question. The most under rated pure MC in the history of ALL music! A mature figure that peers and our children can look up to with loyalty to his soil/roots that’s second to none. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again,,,If hip hop had a president, hip hop would appoint/elect Nickel. If you want the definition of what a real stand up MAN is, look at Judge Joe Brown and or Nickel 9! Fr
Royce is nicer than nice, but Black Thought is still above him IMO. I would have added Em, but he has spent the last decade chopping down his own legacy.
"Chopping down his own legacy" when hes been getting better all this time... Are you fuckin' deaf and blind or do you just not concentrate on the lyrics? You do realize hes better than he was in 2000's.
Royce is beyond top tier forreal. Not only is he a hands down lyrical monster, but has been flexing his skills on the boards as a producer. Have to agree with Page that I prefer the Royce version of Renegade!🤷♂️
Negative. You listen to Lupe and think Em puts together more entendres, elite wordplay, puns and clever usage of literary devices than Lupe? If so, then I'd argue that you're not listening to Lupe keenly at all, and if you are then maybe we should have a little debate. You'd have to convince me how Em's a better lyricist than Lupe because I've listened to both rapper's discography, and have concluded that Lupe has been a far better lyricist than Em for at least a decade. Em has gotten better lyrically, but still not on par with Lupe. Nothing Em has released bests songs like "failure" and "mural".
EverytingsFx don’t worry bud, I’ve listened to Lupe’s entire discography countless times. I’ve got hardcopies of F&L, The Cool, Tetsuo, and Drogas Wave. Mural is Lupe’s best lyrical song? I’d argue it’s WAV Files. Elite similes, metaphors, for days. Bottom line I think they’re the two best in the game. No need to start putting down GOATs because I hurt your feelings putting Lupe at 2.
Royce is really an artist and always suprises me with some original bars. But sometimes lyrically so complex it's hard to appreciate if you're not familiar with rap in general.
Where do you rank Royce on your all-time lyricists list?
Top 5. Dead or alive
Been sayin it for years that he's one of the only people I've seen keep up with Em, he just doesnt sacrifice his message to please the critics he makes the music he wants. Hes somewhere right behind Black Thought and Andre 3000 in my top 5 but he still has the rest of his story to write.
@Vincent Preston I think it's just about who your favorite are. Like what 5 or 10 come to mind for you
royce is trash lmao nobody cares what you're saying if nobody can stand listening to it.
#2 behind Em
im so glad people are finally giving Royce his flowers
Yes exactly Royce been nice in every aspect of hip hop, he has been underrated for years but he truly is the definition of hip hop with his writing, flow, production and performance. He is a beast
I mean it’s more so, because he really wasn’t around back in the day, and that’s because back then you needed to be on with someone, and he had fell out with Dre and em, so the little notoriety he had was due to that, but because Eminem linked back up with him, and helped him get clean creating slaughterhouse then doing the bad meets evil album he was able to get some looks, and from there he hasn’t let up and he took what he got from em and ran with it dropping mixtapes , linking up with premier dropping two classic solo albums... it’s making people listen and give him appreciation. He isn’t around here banging on the younger generation really he just doing him.
Specially while he's still alive.
You said that like he’s dead😂
@@michaelallen9571 he's dope but I lost respect for him
Royce, Lupe and Black Thought are the lyricists that I love that are omitted from the GOAT convo. Lupe, in particular, is very dense and layered. Black thought is potent. Royce is witty. All elite lyricists for different purposes.
Mach Richardson Finally!!! Someone acknowledging Lupe. In my opinion the most underrated emcee in the game. Royce and Black Thought are underrated too but they are acknowledged more than Lupe. People act like he don’t even exist. His catalog is mean!!
Mach Richardson To me Black Thought and Lupe in a different stratosphere lyrically, they better than anybody tbh. Royce dope af too but he not on lupe and BT level
Imo Black Thought>Lupe Fiasco>Royce Da 5’9
Kot W underrated?? With the Soulja boy voice lol 😂 he has two classic his first two albums are like star wars and he’s won a Grammy award winner no he’s not underrated
Lupe is my favorite lyricist, Royce is in my top 10 and Black Thought is also in my top 10 and I’ve only heard a few songs and the freestyles that blew up last year.
He is one of the great lyricists. There is no such thing as one greatest over all.
You say true, I say thankya..Long days and pleasant nights Sai.
@The Watcher On the Public Sidewalk dude, your ass is the reason why em's stans are the worst
Миша Устинов “I am the top selling, who cares”
Let there be Light. Let there be light. Ya'll aint giving Lyt any props.
@The Watcher On the Public Sidewalk you're smokin royce is better than eminem in every aspect.
Man Royce is so underrated man he’s a top tier lyricist and song maker in terms of structure
If we didn't have a Black Thought walking around I'd say yes. He's in my top 5. Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch and Royce are in a category of their own. They are most talented and underappreciated lyricists in the game.
Edit:
You know what nah Royce is the GOAT. Even if Royce only had everything layers and after that's already an impressive body of work. Shit Thought is severely underrated but never overlooked. Royce is so ill I've been championing him since lyricists lounge vol 2.
I was going to put Pharoahe monch in my original comment. He's scary in terms of what he can produce with a pen and the fact he can deliver it. I still go back to internal affairs yearly.
Frank Lee any of those lyricists are better than Eminem.
Monch is criminally underrated. That man has been one of the best active MC’s since the mid 90’s.
The problem with Em as talented as he is his work has been on a decline. These three dudes only get better with time. Though that album this last Friday was really good.
@Frank Lee royce has cooked em several times. There's nothing em can do with a pen that Royce can't. "I consider me and nickel identical"
Is Royce in your top 5 lyricist?
Yes
Hell yeah
@@harshsingh3368 same
no not top 20 lyricist cant fuck with 80s rappers
Yes
For me, Royce, Em, Lupe and Black Thought are on the same level. Love 'em all. ❤❤
Gokul Nath Eminem has been trash for years now he’s no longer in the discussion
@@emaan3259 Eminem is one of the best. I also take it you have not heard his new album?
Em is a goat he not in your top 5 your top 5 is trash
@@nate1166 exactly, top 5 has to be Royce, Em, Crook, Benny the Butcher and Kid Vish for me. Not just because kid vishis is Royces brother, but because I actually think he is a very talented rapper.
KXNGKEZ 97 I rock with vishis, I’m from Detroit area...
Book of Ryan was a phenomenal album, we need a Apollo Brown / Royce project
@matt halsey you're damn right... That will be atomic or should I nuclear like collabo
I 2nd that
YES WE DO!!!
It was slightly too long and unfocused in my opinion, so not amazing as an album, but every song was fire.
matt halsey fuck why didn’t I ever think of that.... Damn. 🔥
just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the mans name
Yup.
I'm here just for you to see my prof pic because of those coms around the TH-cam
MF DOOM ❤️❤️❤️
MF DOOM..
and these ' & " like ROYCE DA 5'9"
I'll give it to lupe fiasco to be honest, I think he's well diverse as a lyricist and not many can match his pen game, not to mention he has some heavily slept on arguably classics.
Lupe is the GOAT, not only when it comes to lyrics imo
sad that Lupe lost so much attention after his "fall off" period when he was trapped with Atlantic and forced into dropping mediocre records. the minute he escaped, he went and proved to everyone that he was never gone. tetsuo & youth (which we can thank Anonymous for allowing to be the version Lupe wanted), pharaoh heights, drogas wave...he truly is on a level that no one else can touch.
@@CME1124 not to mention he called pres obama a terrorist 🤷🏿♂️😅
@Michaell Alexander bruh rapper Mickey facts said lyrically Lupe's next project sets the bar for lyricism
Royce himself already said Lupe was the lyrical GOAT.
Royce is the perfect definition of growth. I've rocked with him for a long time. His pen game is undeniable. With so many great lyricists out there that don't get recognized it's hard to put Royce at #1. He's definitely not far from it by any means.
Rhinestone Bandana ya bish
hes definitely a top tier lyracist, one of the best.. his 2nd verse on Caterpillar is as close to perfection as you can get. My personal favourite is Em & over the years I've seen em destroy people including greats, never has Royce been outshined even by em.. that's why bad meets evil works so well
Can't forget bout da lyrical God King Los. Dude slaughtered LA Leakers freestyle.
Thank you. I'm surprised they've never covered him
Big fan of both, but ya... There's no comparison..... So ya
The beauty behind royce work is the discussion his verses start... legit, he gets you thinking in different ways man. One the greats
Idk about best but he’s one of the elite wordsmiths for sure. He’s in that top class with Crook, Locksmith, Black Thought and some others.
Royce is better than all of them except Black thought.
Debatable but not a bad take. I think there are about 7-8 active MC’s where we’re splitting hairs basically.
@@Nunyabizness321 I agree it comes down to preference, but I believe none of those artists you named have a better discography than Royce. Black thoughts work with the roots is undeniable but lack solo efforts.
homer wisdom I hear you on that and agree on discography. His is better than the others. I was looking at it a little more from the perspective of just straight mic skill and lyricism but he’s no doubt right in that mix on that basis too imo.
Locksmith.... very true.
Page didn't mention the diss track Royce made to Mistah F.A.B., "Who Got Bodied" in 2007 after their battle at SOB's organized by Chuck Creekmur
that was vicious
4 beats in a row lol
Best diss I've ever heard
That song made me a permanent Royce fan.
Still know every bar.
Lupe Fiasco, MF DOOM, Black Thought, Nas, Em, Ka.. these are my top lyricists at present
Rhinestones are so nice, they shine so bright
Especially at night
After a hit of ecstasy, ain't that right Roy... ooh wait a minute I'm rambling. Hahah Rhinestone Bandana
The hype man that came in to blaze shit, Brought in by the white man like I came on a slave ship, in chains, the old master done turned his back on the only rapper that can match him and burn him on his own track with him
A lot of people don't even know these songs exist
Finally someone on TH-cam who knows what he's talking about! Nickel 9 is without a doubt one of the greatest to ever do it.
Man I been listening to Royce forever growing up in Detroit it's hard to miss him but he been dope he is absolutely one of the very best his future is bright and he is really needed right now everything he makes is outstanding he is the guy you want to carry the D on his shoulders 💯💯💯💯💯
Tbh when I first heard Royce on Slim Shady LP I didn’t think he was anything special. Not until I heard Boom is when I was fuckin with him. For the record tho Book Of Ryan is one of the greatest Hip Hop albums ever made and his classic album. Glad to see him start to get his props lately
Thank you for giving Royce the due respect! Maybe not THE greatest(cuz there’s no such thing imo) but easily one of the absolute greatest of all time.
Rhinestone Bandannas!
It hurts me how underrated he really is! Royce is pure talent!
He's black so yes, he's the best and he's not a guest in hip-hop. -Lord Jamar
So was Big Pun a great lyricist
@Christopher Carter you didn't know Hip hop was created by Blacks and Puerto Ricans so Pun is not a guest hip hop is world wide a matter a fact Hip hop comes from south Bronx NY if you are not from there your the guest
@Christopher Carter I can't read humor sorry lol
@Christopher Carter Lord J is ignorant and. Arrogant no one is listening And the that do are just racist and full of hate
LOL. I've always liked Royce 5'9 better then Em and I'm a Brand Nubian fan! In other words Lord Jamar isn't the only person who shares that opinion
Royce finally getting his dues I see. Good to see people are finally realizing royce is a lyrical monster.
My Top three is Royce, Crooked and Em. The order changes according to who iv been listening to more recently, cause in my opinion all three are on the same level
I've had You gon' learn from Ems new album on repeat cuz 5'9"s verse
Eminem had a better verse on every song they had together
@@UnRaT3Dx But all Royce's verses were still amazing, he definitely held his own
@@UnRaT3Dx maybe but I find myself looking forward to Royce's verse more
BARS!
There are a few times where Royce out shined em especially starting off with the SSLP song BME...Royce took that one
My top not in order are Ka, lupe fiasco, Aesop rock, mf doom, elzhi, black thought, skyzoo, pharoahe monch, blu, talib kweli, Sean price, em, Kendrick, big l, big pun, billy woods, earl sweatshirt, Mach hommy, Royce 59
And most of the wu tang members
I think a lot of these people are underrated
Great that you mentioned Ka and Lupe right there.. you missed out Nas in here
@@vayunlohani441 o duh
Royce is an elite MC/lyricist, and he's in my personal top 5. Dude is criminally underrated -- or better yet overlooked and underappreciated. And he's one of the rare cases of a top tier rapper who consistently puts out great projects.
Side note: How did you make a whole video about his lyricism and not play any actual bars lol.
Also...Rhinestone bandanas lol.
Royce is the ONLY rapper in my 20 years that I’ve NEVER heard get washed on a track
IsaiahChavezCA black thought hasnt been outshined even once
Em put him on a quick wash with a 15 min spin on not alike
c. pza Black thought is one the best, but on the song “super lyrical” Big Pun definitely outshined him... just my opinion
IsaiahChavezCA ... weak point... Royce isn’t so commercial ... he needs to be tested by attracting the hate that comes with top level... I would like to see him go back to back on high profile diss-tracks to see how well he performs ...
@@dianevrules Diane you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Your Avi and name tell me all this. Then your examples put the nails in the coffin. Stop doing crack.
And to top it all off, he's started producing too. Infact he produced two songs on EM's new album
What songs were they
@@ryanbutt2591 Darkness and You Gon learn
@@vernontauro I think yah yah too
@@vernontauro Those were good beats aswell
@@mjw-hk8jf yah yah was deNaun
Lupe #1, but Royce is definitely top 5
for me along with Em, Andre 3K, and Kxng Crooked
Just saw this on Royce’s Instagram and watched the whole thing, then I had to come here just to comment.
Eminem will always be my favourite rapper ever (my friend and I were saying after listening to his new album he’s just getting better and better) but I rank Royce VERY HIGH. One of the all time greatest lyricists ever. But over here in Australia we didn’t really seem to get his stuff readily available until TH-cam/Spotify etc (I’d only ever heard his stuff he did with Eminem but I always LOOOOVED what I heard) - as I got older I educated myself and I fell in love with his style. I learned a lot from this video too. And I got to see him with Eminem when they came to Australia last year and I flew interstate to see him with my mum, a 62 year old white Australian woman (we were at the concert for her birthday) who watched in awe and said “He’s incredible” and when we went back to our hotel we listened to the Book Of Ryan.
Anyway, all I wanted to say is I have too much nostalgia and love for Eminem, the guy who got me into rap as a tiny child... but Royce is undeniably one of the most incredible lyricists ever. Love him. Following him on Instagram is a pleasure. Cannot wait for his next album, and am so excited to see what he does this time...
Oh, and I used to watch you on Vine back in the day, and then I saw this video thought you did a great job.... SUBSCRIBED!
Black Thought is the GOAT
Oh yeah, he is definitely one of the best lyricist out there, no doubt. When he’s side to side on a track with Eminem, he really lyrically stands his fucking ground. Even I be shocked and taken aback by how Royce be lyrically violating and attacking the beat like that.
Slept on/underrated for sure..
LUPE FIASCO GETS NO LOVE!!
Tru Gambit I agree he gets no respect
Justin Hunte (The Company Man) gives Lupe a lot of love and recognition. He was the host for TBD beforr Murs took over. Check his TBD breakdowns for Lupe on his channel.
Honestly I’ve never cared for him at all maybe I’m missing something but I just never thought he was an amazing lyricist everybody claims he is. To me besides Royce Kxng Crooked & Horseshoe Gang are the best rappers rn and 5 of the greatest of all time real shit
@@cobrahklutch9779 watch his songs with a TH-cam breakdown. Lupe really thinks out his lyrics more than anyone else I've seen.
@@sabalipeaceandpatience9264 facts
Lupe the GOAT with the lyrics but Royce is top tier
Lupe is def the GOAT lyricist.
in whatever compartment whether as a storyteller, spitter, conceptual, etc
hes top tier in all confinements and parts of lyricism
@@josephwilson8239 it seems you are a Lupe fan. If it's so then tell me pls a good album from him.
@@reaperx1256 Food & Liquor, The Cool,Tetsuo & Youth, Drogas Wave.
Not to mention his revenge of the nerds mixtapes
He's definitely up there as one of the great emcees. I wish he had more exposure than he does
I’ve been saying this for years lyrically nobodies been more consistent.
Black thought? MF Doom?
Ras kass! Styles P!
You could argue Black Thought.
@@geowonkenobi Are you really dismissing MF doom? have you heard anything from him?
He’s not even just consistently maintaining quality, he’s consistently improving, especially over the past few years
Royce been in my top 5 for the past 3 years since he dropped Layers and Book of Ryan and the Bar Exams mixtape
I've been trying to put fools on Royce since 2000
@jack ramirez he was on Ems album in 99 and he dropped Rock City in 01 or 02.
@jack ramirez and he was writing on Chronic 2001.
First off, think what cha want bro, but back then I was in prison reading source magazines and listening to Hip Hop music all while beating fools like you up
shortbus1127 bro what? Why you gotta add the last part about prison and beating people up though? 💀😂 This convo took a turn for the worst 😂😂😂
@@wdazeaphonflame9082 sorry, it's a defense mechanism I still use sometimes and I apologise
Don't skip Lupe, Black Thought, Chino XL, crooked, Budden, skyzoo, brother Ali, Jean Grae, Elzhi, etc... but bruh Royce is immaculately Dope and lyrically inclined almost beyond understanding. This is a valid argument.
As far as his body of work over the last 15 years I would say he is . I thought he was better than Eminem when he dropped Death Is Certain in 2004 , but that's just me.
I loved that album... why the fuck is it not on Apple Music tho?
I fell in love with Royce's music back in the day while I was playing GTA3
*Claims Royce is the best lyricist ever*
*Proceeds to not say a single one of his lyrics to prove his point*
He mentioned 2 bars. You expected a whole video breakdown of bars? Lol
@@redpillproductions7187 well yeah if hes claiming hes the greatest lyricist of all time.
I was also waiting for page, to detail some of his technical ability, but didn't do it
Um he said a couple lines and put some d12 disses up, 🤝. He also said what to listen to.
Oh man Royce is definitely top tier in the rap game. I’ve known this most of my life but I feel like too many people my age slept on him for ever
Royce is an animal he's almost too good for his own good he's too much for most people to understand!!!
Besides black thought and Lupe I think Royce is one of the most underrated wordsmiths ever
Lupe Fiasco, King Los, Em, Nas, Cole, Kendrick, and Black thought
Top 5 MC's
1.Rakim
2. 3 Stacks
3. Eminem
4. Black Thought
5. Jqy Z /Royce Depending
Where is Kool G Rap?
@@brentcruz8779 He is definitely top 10 along with Big Daddy Kane
1. Eminem
2. Pharoah Monch
3. Royce
4. Nas
5. Black Thought
1. Royce da 5'9
2. King Los
3. Rakim
4. AZ
5. Mos Def
Lyricists? 1.Papoose 2. Canibus 3.GZA 4.Kool G Rap 5.NaS... But that’s not my Overall Favorite Rapper List
@@burdman1333 he ain't young, he's ghostwritten for a lot of people. Dude is almost 40. He been slept on for ages. Mos def is past eminem lyrically by a longshot, i take more than wordplay into account with lyricism. Eminem rarely uses anything but wordplay, and when he does do things besides wordplay he's passed by a lot of other MC's. He isn't as diverse as Mos Def and can't keep a common theme in well over 3/4ths of his songs.
i like the fact that page kennedy bringin the energy into the conversation. i like seeing him talkin bout it!
Royce is dope!! I would put him in a list along with Sean Price, Prodigy, Masta Ace, Bad Azz (from the LBC Crew, not Lil Boosie), Canibus, 2pac, Black Thought and Big Herk. (No particular order)
First time I heard Royce was in gta lll the entire soundtrack is 🔥🔥🔥
I love bad but I gotta say evil is above him in terms of lyricism although when they get together it's really close. Tbh I'd rank him in my top 10 personal favorites and maybe top 5 or 6th for lyricism alone
Royce is top 20 most definitely, if we talking just lyricist and bars and technicalness, but before him I’d have to place...Black Thought, Roc Marciano, Big Pun, Big L,, Redman, Sean Price, Styles P, Jadakiss, Raekwon, Nas, Canibus, Royce Da 5’9”,Mos Def, Pharaoh Monch, Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, Kxng Crooked, Ras Kass, Kurupt, Andre 3000, Eminem, Jay Electionica, Killer Mike, Cyhi the Prince, E-40....
After this video I went over to listen to some more Royce.
Great video...funny, detailed, and a great argument for Royce. PK is a hilarious host, you can feel the love/respect PK has for his friend. Royce is a bad man!
His Renegade verse was 🔥🔥🔥
So glad he mentioned Power alogside Cocaine, I still feel bad about how I laughed at the description of Royce's father hitting his son though lol
He’s one of the greatest lyricist of all TIME, since I bought Death Is Certain I knew this dude was a legend, he had a slow career, with flop albums like Independence Day but bounce back with The Bar Exam then was killing it with the Mixtapes. Then he got sober and became a 100 times better. I remember arguing with people in high school that this man was waaayyy better then Eminem. People been sleep No 🧢.
He wasnt always better but when Bad Meets Evil came out it was obvious who Royce stepped way up demolishing Eminem on every track.
Death is Certain is a classic!!
Jack Carver I wouldn’t say he demolished Em on every track, imho, this statement is not true, but they were pretty even. Royce did an amazing job on a lot of tracks, but Em too was completely savage. Right now, I feel like Em is better than Royce, it’s just the fact that hating on Em for no reason is trendy now, I’m not saying you’re doing that ofc, but a lot of people are doing it and the corny bars stuff? One of the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard, I’ll tell you, I heard some “not so good bars” just on a couple of songs from a couple of projects. But, as I was saying, right now Eminem is slightly better than Royce, but damn, Royce is a very close second. Man is a beast on the beat. Much love for both, I have both of them in my top 3, so all love and I respect your opinion, friend
Fair assement, but what remember about Em on that album was corny lines like "im on a roll, Danish"
Jack Carver big facts and you can make an argument that Em has gotten better because of Royce. Remember Em was putting out corny music, saying corny lines. Trying to hard to be overly complicated instead of just focus on making good music. Royce produced a few tracks off Ems new album and this is IMO Ems best album since Recovery.
Apathy, Termanology, Black Thought, Royce all incredible artist. So many great artists that never really get the shine they deserve.
Em is easily the best we've heard, with Royce inches behind.
AricAric18 all caps, give MF DOOM respect
AricAric18 forgetting Lupe, Black Thought, and Pharoah Monche. Eminem is about equal to those dudes, along with Royce. I can't say any of them are better. MF DOOM and Andre are behind by some.
@@enceofthewind4145 Eminem beats all of them on wordplay
@Hamah 75 Bro, how you gonna subtract a stack off my mans?
XxStrawberries4MexX 0.0 maybe. They’re all solid. Don’t be biased
One of my personal favorites 💪🏾💯✊🏾
*THE BEST LYRICISTS YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD
1. illogic (Don’t confuse him with Logic. Illogic is one of the most intelligent, introspective, and profound writers to ever grace the mic. His poetry and descriptive language is unmatched).
2. Akala- He is extremely skilled and intelligent. His ideas are studied at major universities, and he has an incredible mastery of hip hop and music in general. His knowledge of history gives him a true understanding of the causes and cycles that occur and how they relate to current social issues today.
3. Greydon Square - He also one of the best writers in hip hop. He probably has the most in depth understanding of science and mathematics of any rapper I’ve seen, and his metaphors are often layered with scientific and mathematic references and concepts.
4. Aesop Rock- While often extremely abstract, his lyrical ability should not be overlooked. His metaphors are often extremely complex, and his ability to include hidden meanings and concepts rivals that of some of the best writers in literature. Not to mention, he has the highest vocabulary in hip hop.
5. Hemlock Ernst- Not only is he a great musician, but he has an incredible poetic and linguistic ability to create rhyme schemes that relate to some of the thought processes we all face when dealing with major philosophical questions of the common man’s plight of daily existence
All corny avant-garde weirdos
@@nusense808 What make them corny?
nusense808 Only an uneducated individual would say that.
Dechef Mane He won’t be able to tell you. The subject matter is above his head, therefore, he deems it corny.
Locksmith. Chino XL. Pharaoh Monche. Royce. Black Thought. Pun. MF Doom. King Los. Crooked I. >>>>>
Simple formula for me:
IF Nas=alive THEN no.
But I do love me some Royce. He's quite the lyricist and should have more accolades to his credit.
Rakim, g rap, gza...
Word I'm glad someone did this video! Personally Royce Da 5'9" is unequivocally my #1 favorite Hip Hop artist of all-time. Def a huge inspiration and influence for me. "Rhinestone Bandanas"
Royce one of the goats ez
Royce has been one of my favorites since like 99 when I would hear him and Em spit those verses on different stations with lines like "I could jump out a bottomless pit and land at the top". He gets better with time
I read many comments and I haven't heard Mos Def.
Royce has been my #1 for a fucking while. I am originally actually a metalhead, i got into hip hop starting with immortal technique. I eventually began to become more accepting of hip hop and listened to eminem, where i then found royce da 5'9. It took me a little bit but i began to explore royce's catalog after becoming more familiar with what hip hop was about and BARS. I found very soon after that royce is straight the fuck up #1. Royce is insanely talented, ahead of eminem, nas, everyone else. King Los is close but evidently, to me, nobody can pass Royce. Making my day that people are beginning to recognize the beast himself for who he really is. His insane talent. His wisdom. Royce #1 forever.
Eminem is most definitely that greatest lyricist to ever touch pen to paper. It's not even close.
@mentally endangered trust me. I've listened to everything by both of them.. Eminem is far better. There's no need for me to argue any further. Everyone knows this lol
Facts, Royce doesn't connect to listeners the same way. Not as versatile but pretty damn versatile. Em does every style, even horrorcore and chopping, pop songs
Nah Royce is more versatile by far
I was so fukkn excited when Royce done a verse on my fav album of all time "Abominationz" by Twiztid
That one line "Riding around with an army gun that's modified
Down to die but I'm tryna keep my style alive" 💥💥
Rhinestone Bandana
He’s definitely one of the best that’s 💯💯
Rhinestone Bandanas... He's in the discussion...glad to see this be a conversation.
"Your whole platform could swim with the fishes
Like Huggy Bear"
You could spend 20 minutes alone breaking down this one bar.
That's field n isn't it?
Yup, brilliant song.
Man this video just gets better and better.
Malcolm X is one of the greatest diss songs ever.
Thatt was easy work for him, d12 is a terrible rap group in which all the members are piggybanking on the popularity of Eminem
I can’t put anyone ahead of Rakim as an all time lyricist but Royce is personally in my top 3 favorites and I agree with everything posted here. I’ve been trying to school people to Royce since 2000.
Royce is up there but come on man, Eminem exists.
Bravo Tells It All very valid
Royce the 5'9" on GTA 3 I'm the King. I'm this old.
I miss Justin Hunte doing these
Lyrically, All- Time, I got:
Lupe Fiasco
Black Thought
MF DOOM
Nas
Eminem
Royce da 5'9
Pharoahe Monch
Talib Kweli
Ghostface Killah
Sa-Roc
Currently, I Got:
Lupe Fiasco
Black Thought
Kendrick Lamar
Sa-Roc
Rapsody
Conway The Machine
Benny The Butcher
Royce da 5'9
Cyhi The Prynce
Big KRIT
Royce is dope. But he gets outshined by Eminem almost everytime. I think he's been putting in work for sure though. But I still think Jadakiss, Styles p, Eminem and even Crooked I is better than Royce. There's more I could mention. But respect to his skills. I'm not mad if someone thinks he is the best.
He's brilliant, really underappreciated and not really known for his own stuff. Obviously his work with Em is real good and i found myself enjoying a lot of his parts more than Shadys
Lupe fiasco by far the best lyricist in the game
Chris Smith agreed💯💯💯💯
Royce one of the greatest lyricists ever in Rap history, no questions. Always about expanding his knowledge nd improving his craft. Rhinestone Bandanas. Good shiet.💯💯
You don’t murder Eminem on his own shit for twenty years and not be considered great
adam quenano I mean he wasn’t murdering Eminem. They were pretty even.
How has he murdered him?
Whose Eminem what the same one that made Foolish Pride?
Slo Mo I meant outrapping him I don’t believe he’s better than Eminem.
That was a good hype video, though it would have been nice to see you give more examples/analysis of his lyrics too :)
Y'all should have brought up his song called legendary with Travis Barker
Great song as well.
Without question. The most under rated pure MC in the history of ALL music! A mature figure that peers and our children can look up to with loyalty to his soil/roots that’s second to none. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again,,,If hip hop had a president, hip hop would appoint/elect Nickel. If you want the definition of what a real stand up MAN is, look at Judge Joe Brown and or Nickel 9! Fr
Royce is amazing. People who skip his verses on Eminem tracks are losers.
I’d skip an em verse before I skip a Royce one Idk who dies that
Even Eminem said Royce is the only rapper to ever give him a run for his money
Royce is nicer than nice, but Black Thought is still above him IMO. I would have added Em, but he has spent the last decade chopping down his own legacy.
"Chopping down his own legacy" when hes been getting better all this time... Are you fuckin' deaf and blind or do you just not concentrate on the lyrics? You do realize hes better than he was in 2000's.
Royce is beyond top tier forreal. Not only is he a hands down lyrical monster, but has been flexing his skills on the boards as a producer. Have to agree with Page that I prefer the Royce version of Renegade!🤷♂️
Pretty sure Eminem is the greatest lyricist of all time. Just listen to his last album. Royce is up there. I’d put Lupe over him as well.
Negative. You listen to Lupe and think Em puts together more entendres, elite wordplay, puns and clever usage of literary devices than Lupe? If so, then I'd argue that you're not listening to Lupe keenly at all, and if you are then maybe we should have a little debate. You'd have to convince me how Em's a better lyricist than Lupe because I've listened to both rapper's discography, and have concluded that Lupe has been a far better lyricist than Em for at least a decade. Em has gotten better lyrically, but still not on par with Lupe. Nothing Em has released bests songs like "failure" and "mural".
EverytingsFx don’t worry bud, I’ve listened to Lupe’s entire discography countless times. I’ve got hardcopies of F&L, The Cool, Tetsuo, and Drogas Wave. Mural is Lupe’s best lyrical song? I’d argue it’s WAV Files. Elite similes, metaphors, for days. Bottom line I think they’re the two best in the game. No need to start putting down GOATs because I hurt your feelings putting Lupe at 2.
Garrett Hatcher he’s not wrong tho
@@everytingsfx7672Lupe Fiasco is my GOAT of lyricist.
Royce is really an artist and always suprises me with some original bars. But sometimes lyrically so complex it's hard to appreciate if you're not familiar with rap in general.