F-14B Tomcat: Carrier Taxi, Take Off & CASE I (1) Landing Tutorial | DCS WORLD
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Very helpful video! I realized my main mistake seems to be reducing approach speed to "donut" after the final turn towards the carrier only. I thought it would be safer to have some extra knots during the final turn but either I required a much longer final approach leg or it was a bit stressful to reduce overspeed (30-50 knots) and stabilize.
Regarding DLC: I recently went from Saitek X-45 (which I really liked) to TM Warthog HOTAS + rudders. On the Saitek I had mapped DLC to a rotary know on the throttle. Now with the TM I use the thumb stick on the stick. The disadvantage is that the DLC spoilers now have three states only: half open, fully closed, or fully open. I found it way easier to hit the three wire with the Saitek, where I could open / close the spoilers gradually. I wish the TM would have one or two rotaries. Maybe it even has already.... every now and then I still find some extra knobs and switches.
How can I tell jester not to eject when I land on the admiral Krusnenzov ?
Disarm the ejection seat. Who ejects in multiplayer anyway.
Komrade, he is clearly not built for the glorious Russian machines there. If he was worthy he would not eject.
As a Trackhat ir person I find myself turning my head as if I'm playing in the game while watching this... I suddenly realize how stupid that is... Lol Great tutorial on arguably my favorite air plane...
Could be worse
Playing IL2 CloD for so long, then sitting on a balcony, spotting 2 dots and "a couple of birds" wasn't the first thing I thought of when seeing them
Just learning the F14 cap so watching your tutorials but I’ve realised something I haven’t noticed when I watch your other vids or fly with you. You shouldn’t use the throttle for speed & the stick for height. It’s actually the other way round. The throttle controls your pitch & height & the stick controls your speed. It’s counter intuitive I know but it’s what you’re taught when you learn to fly. So if the VV is below the deck you don’t pull the nose up. You throttle up slightly & that does it for you. Same with the speed. If your slow then you drop the nose using the stick.
May I ask what you are flying in real and where you learned that? I am Airline Pilot with Lufthansa, flying B-747. I did my Pilots Training in Lufthansa Pilot School in Bremen Germany and most of the real flying lessons we got in the Airline Training Center in Goodyear Arizona near Phoenix. ALL we were taught is exactly the opposite of what you are stating.
Correct procedure of flying a Jet engine Aircraft during an approach is…...Pitch controls Altitude and Vertical Speed and Throttle controls Speed. If you come to an Airline doing it the way you say, they would fire you.
I know that many VFR private pilots getting training for a PPL in a Cessna are trained the way you say. You COULD fly a Cessna by controlling Speed with pitch and rate of descent with throttle, but even that does not make any sense.
But latest coming to a jet engine aircraft that is a total NoGo.
Flying the F-14 during a carrier approach is a totally different thing than flying it to an airfield runway and of course different than any other civilian jet. The carrier approach needs a high angle of attack, uses speedbrakes down all the time ( a NoGo for normal jets of course ) and uses DLC to correct the flight path to stay on the perfect glideslope ( which is also totally different compaerd with a civilian jet ). Eventhough the specific procedures flying an F-14 in a carrier traffic pattern are different, the general rules of pitch and power flying with a jet, which I wrote above are still correct.
mrsayang hi mate. Well you learn something new everyday. My information is based on my PPL lessons on a Cessna. I didn’t realise it was different for a jet. Is it the same for a small fighter as it is for a wide bodied jet do you know?
mrsayang I will say though that in DCS i fly this way. I use the throttles to control the pitch during landing, gently adjusting them to keep the VV on the threshold or the carrier deck.
@@Madeyes6 you are correct. Pitch to control speed, power to control rate of descent.
The reason commercial airliner pilots might disagree with this, is because they are glorified button pushers, and are slaves to using an ILS... With ILS it was easier to just use autopilot or flight director to rely on pitch, especially since early systems had no autothrottle. That method has just stuck around.
It's definitely better to continue using pitch for speed, as this method results in a constant angle of attack during landing.
@@mrsayang he is talking about the "region of reverse command". When at low speeds with high drag or alpha, the controls are reversed. Pitching the nose up slows you, and down speeds you, applying power climbs, and cutting power decends.
Again, this reversed command situation is only during low speed and high drag. It's also known as "being behind the power curve" or at "the back of the power curve". In all other cases, pitching up climbs, and pitching down descends, power up adds speed, power down removes speed - but if you are behind the power curve these are all reversed and becomes a situation where you must actually fight what comes intuitively.
This problem of reverse command is completely defeated however with any auto-throttling system engaged. In which case you will use your stick inputs to change lift or sinkrate.
Here is an explaination:
th-cam.com/video/I0c9eY9kU68/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zSIEUNbb4ObRwcwu&t=405
Much better! Couple notes I usually do. When taking off from the bow (cats 1,2) I pull right 20 degrees then come back onto BRC, and stay at 500 ft for 7 NM from the boat, before turning to WP heading and climbing. If from waist cats 3,4), I pull left 20 degrees. Basically the maneuver just gets you out of the path of the boat behind you if you should have to ditch.
During takeoff and landing I usually have TACAN on my VDI and HSI, and if there is ILS set up, I will usually put that on for landing. TACAN on HSI helps me figure out how far away 7 NM is before I am clear of the traffic pattern.
Thanks Bel! Your boys need to come fly with us. Shout us on Discord xx
Also called a clearing turn. Only used during CASE 1. At night or CASE III, it's climb straight ahead. Also, the aircraft has to be fully configured for flight before the launch bar engages the shuttle. ie, wings spread, flaps down. Great tutorial by the way. You hit a lot of good points. I used to be a Yellow shirt!
Super tutorial and nice landing!
thx
@@grimreapers Only a 1 wire but still more impressive than me, I don’t even have HOTAS and anytime I attempt a carrier landing I slam facefirst into the carrier deck
Great tutorial! Thanks!
thx
Great Tutorial. Just did my first carrier landing. Caught 4th wire!. Went a bit long for first time. Really liking DCS. I've got 6 modules in 2020 sale. F-14, Harrier, Black Shark, 3 maps for Multiplayer.
My dude should’ve gotten F/A-18
@@lucasdcatch4063 still, I own the f/a-18, i found the tomcat more easy
@@lucasdcatch4063they might not be interested in it
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yes this landing is messy but at least I have learnt when to use DLC :/ Thanks for the tutorial
I noticed that you have the mirrors off. I must say, even with a 2080ti, under certain circumstances when the mirrors are on, my frame rate will drop to ungodly levels. Hopefully they will fix this.
ya my 1070 cant cope
I have a 1070ti and I loose around 20 fps with mirrors on :D
2080Ti 7700K smooth as butter with mirrors
17 GTCS Pony Most of the time this is true for me. It’s just over Dubai where things get a little to slow for my liking, ie, 60fps.
Same thing here
wings to auto during the break turn as you pass through 300 kts
Nice vid
You forgot to check the controls once mil power is set!
Have you tried Moose Airboss pal? Full automated marshal, Lso, traffic management, for the carrier
oooo nice
Paddles, is that you?
What’s the green yellow and red box on the right?
Does DLC do anything when the flaps are fully extended? It doesn't look like it but I guess it does
When you've got the controls display turned on what is that green/yellow/red box to the right?
no1 seems to know
Do naval pilots really land like this on the regular? Why wouldn't they just adjust their speed and altitude on their initial approach back to the carrier?
the trim and throttle overlay in the lower left hand corner. is that an option in game? or some sort of asset you need to download?
Press RCtrl+Enter/return
@@grimreapers tyvm *Thumbs Up*
Yessssss
Hi CAP, after having carrier landing modules for so long I finally got round to giving it a go following your videos (thank you) and I gotta say, man it's satisfying. One quick question; on my approach, the FLOLS symbol comes up and it's annoying me, I can't find the binding to get rid of it. Which key binding or setting do I need to tweak to get rid of that? All the best CAP 👍
Ah, I found the option the other day but I've forgotten where I saw it. Tray main menu -> options -> special -> F-14 and see if it 's there? thx
@@grimreapers no luck there but if I find it I'll let you know.
@@grimreapers Think I've found it but it's a C Drive amendment. Looks like you have to change a code from "(val)" to "(false)". So I'll try it out latwr today and will let you know if there's success with all the details in case you get more questions on it. Thanks again for replying, I totally forgot to say that before. Have a lovely one CAP!
@@grimreapers finally found it and I'm an idiot. It is indeed in the options > special > "SUPERCARRIER" page. Completely forgot spuercarrier had a special page. Thank you again for help and advice 🙏
nice nice nice
I just realized that I should leave the speedbrake out after the breaking point all the way till touchdown?..
How do u guys play this game??? I wouldn't be able to remember half these controls!
It's pretty much a full time job.
Drift left is because the carrier is doing 30kn?? generating it's own wind. The crosswind component causing you to drift left is because of the offset of the angled flight deck.
Always expect this.
Roger thanks
@@grimreapers Sometimes I come home from work and watch your vids and you guys just crack me up.
It's also because of the limits of the DCS engine. IRL there would never be a crosswind during standard flight operations because the carrier needs to have that wind blowing from bow to stern to help aircraft maintain decent lift. In DCS the systems just kinda work so there's no need to model the carrier turning to the wind.
Are there more planes then the f14 and f18 that can land on a carrier
su-33, harrier and technically F-5.
@@grimreapers thxs cap
@@Maxtorym F-16 has a hook for emergencies, maybe the DoD would believe you if you declared emergency and just happened to be near the carrier? lol
I cant read the horizon using the hud, am i being stupid or is it awkward?
I also find it much easier to eyeball the trap rather than do it by the book lol
From all the sources i have seen the hud is not a horizon reference and the velocity vector is extremely inaccurate . Use your instruments (aoa indexer, vsi, adi, asi) And yes a case 1 landing can be performed with hud off and some pilots even preferred it (or with the brightness way down). Victory205 (former tomcat pilot) on reddit wrote up a nice case 1 tips guide here forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=235301
It's not a HUD plane. This plane MUSt be flown by the steam gauges(vsi/speedo/AoA) once you start to fly it bythe old gauges it becomes very easy to fly.
Seems easier than Hornet :-) thx
It's not...
@@Wolfkin18 as Dude says 'it's just like.... your opinion, man!'
Ok show me. Film your CASEI and show's us all how easy it is, cuz Cap is doing it wrong. @@svmik
@@Wolfkin18 and what else should I do for you when I am at it, LOL!?
It's just a matter of opinion, you can have yours and I can (yes, I really do) have mine.
yes it's a lot easier than Hornet
I’m guessing this is not a module to start DCS with! :)
No, not at all.
The right one to start with is the one you really want, assuming you know you're patient enough to learn.
I would recommend it. The flight model is simply great and convincing. This comes from somebody with exactly zero hours in the real thing but with many hours spent in Wikipedia and TH-cam :-)
It would be rough, but If you start on this and master it you'd absolutely dominate with the "modern" fly by wire craft if you were ever to get those too.
> Flies completely messy CASE I approach
> Meatball not even visible because he's too low all the time
> "Pretty easy to be honest"
Welcome to the Grim Reapers.
Show yours.
No trap sheet cap c'mon
Hi
How do you lower the launch bar
Nevermind i am a fucking moron
@@Aleks_493 lmao. I'll admit it wasnt obvious in the video at first for me was well because it's automatic with the kneeling of the front strut.
How do I get the carrier to turn on the meatball ??
ensure you radio the carrier for approach, and it should be automatic.
@@grimreapers did that and all they do is give me a heading to fly away from the ship and then no further instructions. ...still getting aboard tho but it would be nice to have
try to use the ball
Damn, that CASE I is wrong on almost every phase ...
You're not a very good Tomcat pilot cap... Long in the groove, didn't check the runway... Alas.
+ he hasn't called the Ball
@@rwhunt99 you won't have one for my form is not perfect yet, but I'm not instructing others doing it wrong either.
Want to learn it properly, see 104th Mavericks excellent NATOPs tutorial smartass.
Way to low, never even checked the ball, should've done over the right way instead of trying to get as many vids out as Possible.