Is OU going to the SEC?
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- Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman discuss the report that OU and Texas are going to the SEC (3:20). In Football Guys Talkin’ Basketball, they discuss the Milwaukee Bucks winning the NBA title with an all-time performance from Giannis in Game 6 (54:50). Gabe and Teddy give you their “Winners/Losers of the Week:” Shane Beamer, Green Bay Packers fans, Nick Saban & Bob Bowlsby (1:18:04).
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Gary Danielson will finally have to cover Oklahoma again.
From an SEC perspective, this is not just expansion. this is an opportunity to add two national names.
This has everything to do with the future of television/streaming. Adding two massive brands like OU and Texas is very good for business. No doubt.
@@OK_Breakdown No doubt, most of the football I watch is SEC football, so if Oklahoma and Texas join, I will definitely watch those teams also. I also mostly stream my content, if this helps the SEC Network come out with an app to allow a monthly subscription to all SEC games, I will certainly subscribe!
another thing I think OU and Texas built a lot of good will with the SEC and Sankey last year when the Big 10 and Pac 12 cancelled their seasons, but OU/Texsa resisted the pressure and partnered with the SEC to move forward with a season.
Just rewatched this with 3 days to go wow so much had changed!!!
Been waiting for this video.
OU with an SEC regular season schedule would be incredible to watch!!!
Would be amazing in my opinion. Let Oklahoma prove how over rated the conference really is
@@camthesooner123 actually, I think OU proves how overwhelmed they are each year during the CFP.
@@sterlingbristol6057 don’t be dumb
@@boom8250 the evidence speaks for itself
I’m so torn ladies and gents. I get all the perks of going to the SEC. money, coverage, national attention, recruiting perks, etc.
But so much is changing with college football now. I love it because of the TRADITION, pageantry, and purity of the game. I really wish the Big 12 would of gotten it’s crap together…
There is no doubt that this would be a drastic change that would take some gettin used to.
@@OK_Breakdown Seems like Oklahoma's is ALWAYS at forefront of major change. Around 1988 with the whole TV deal that OU and georgia brought on basically
Roll Tide! Would love to add OU and Texas to SEC!!...Conference realignment would be Texas and OU to West with Missouri joining the West. Alabama and Auburn move to East. This would be the proper geographic placements. Me personally, I say put BAMA, Texas, OU, Georgia, LSU, Florida, A&M, and Auburn in same division and just have at it.
That would be insane....and I love the thought of it! The two or three guys left standing on the team that wins that division get an automatic national championship. Just the thought of OU and Bama in the same conference gives me chills in a very good way. Boomer!
Missouri isn't switching sides if they wanted them in the West in the beginning they would have been there they wanted Texas A&M so live with it
@@terrybrunk9190 lol..well one of the two (missouri or a&m) had to go to the west. missouri will be moved to the west...live with that.
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75 million plus per school with OU and UT. vs 34 mil and 44 mil
Here's the thing. Next Summer SCOTUS rules on the legality of stipend caps. If caps are removed that will price out schools like Vandy, Wake, possibly B.C. and maybe even some publics like Purdue. When a court ruling changes the nature of a contract in such a way that performance risks financial hardship contracts are voided, all related contracts are voided. GORs are such a contract. The school can't afford to stay under the new nature so they can't be bound because staying hurts them, leaving hurts them and they had the change in nature imposed upon them. This has the potential to negate the GOR not only for the damaged parties but everyone because a new GOR would need to be signed. That window in a climate of panic could start a run.
Iron sharpens iron. We should welcome the challenge. OU will always be in the mix. Fear shouldn’t be a motivator to not go forward and I don’t think it will. We can be comfortable or get challenged and make history
I remember being a little kid in Tahlequah, Ok, losing my mind over Teddy Lehman cause he was from 20 miles down the road. Great show boys.
This is leverage for contract negotiations with Fox, etc. OU has been unhappy with mandated early kick-off times for years and the Nebraska game time has OU exasperated. This is also about money for a new TV deal. The Big 12 needs to add between 2-6 teams for more content and so that the mid-tier teams are more highly ranked for the playoffs. The Big 12 round robin schedule is brutal for those mid-tier teams. The TV networks have not allowed the Big 12 to expand previously so this gives the Big 12 leverage to say "Give us a bigger, better, competitive TV contact and let us grow the Big 12 or we are leaving".
I sumise that after the fox executives failed to capitulate Castiglione's request for a later start for the Nebraska game..and the lack of support from the big 12..and fox being uninterested in early contract negotiations.. and the process was started..you can only take so much disrespect
It's like Fox and the Big 12 had this insane belief that OU and Texas isn't the entire Big 12. You have to have those 2 happy.
You could literally switch out any other teams, and as long as OU and Texas was there it could be rebuilt.
But if they leave? The Big 12 is dead.
Because no one else is going to want to stay there without them.
Personally while it is sad to see the Big 12 die. But I feel like the real Big 12 has already been dead since Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzo and A&M all left.
So I'm excited for this to happen. I am excited to see a Riley Offense with a SEC Defense
Also don’t forget the all big 12 team snub for OU last year
As much as Oklahoma and Texas hate each other. We do ride together all the time lol
Crimson and cream and burnt orange are meaningful colors. But the most important color is green.
I’m sure all the Baylor fans would agree with that
One thought no one has mentioned: Think how great it will be for Josh Heupel to HAVE to return to Norman!! Didn’t he insinuate he would never return after being let go?!
No matter; think how cool it will be for those home games against Arkansas, Mississippi, maybe Bama and Florida and Georgia here and there!!!
Dang!!
It would be amazing.
This just came in from Bowlsby ! Horns down will be allowed no matter what ! Also OU can pick what time they want play !! Please dont leave !! 🥺
Alabama and Auburn to the East would make it East 9 teams and West 7 teams. Missouri would have to move to the West which is the natural move and would make each division with 8 teams.
Yes...sorry we forgot to mention Missouri would have to come to the west. That's what every seems to think would make the most sense.
@aaron short which is why Alabama and Auburn moving to the east balances it out.
Think Bowlsby is second guessing his flippant comments about 11 am TV times during media days right about now? Also, I think SEC will most likely allow the horns down sign.
🤣 I think the horns down is a must
We assume Bob Bowlsby is having a rough day.
Yep, their at fault for riding big 12 , 4 teams short. And being paid to do what?
Lol. You think that LSU fans give a shit that horns down isn't allowed? That will be the least of texas' problems when they come to Tiger Stadium. They lucked out last year and avoided coming to br due to covid...there's no where else to hide now baby! Geaux Fightin' Tigers!!!
@@rcmlsutiger7992 don’t know if you were aware but the big 12 advised they would be assessing 15 yard penalties this year for unsportsmanlike conduct if players did the horns down sign on the field. Such weak sauce. So that part of the question was referring to the SEC allowing horns down from players without a 15 yarder being called
Can’t be afraid of the competition. Evolve or die.
It would be interesting for sure.
the way the 12 used to do the schedule when it was 12 teams, is the best way even with 16 teams. instead of a 4 year home and home turnaround schedule with half the other division each two years, it would be a 6 year turnaround. i think the math is right. maybe 8 years. and that eliminates the tenn/bama and whoever has vandy, annual mismatches.
8 yrs+
Sec would have to get used to us as well let’s be honest you can’t tell me Saban , smart or Orgeron are jumping for joy at the idea of seeing Oklahoma once on their schedule every year
Definitely not.
@@OK_Breakdown better yet they don’t want to see a Lincoln Riley offense with SEC recruits on defense for Oklahoma lol
Listen here’s the deal, OU and Texas are willing to fly this suicidal mission for a big payday
@@ryanwatts3781 Ryan you have obviously been watching too much Big 12 and not enough SEC! We are now prolific on offense and you already know what we do every Saturday on D!
In reference to your discussion about how teams schedule games within the conference. Teams in the SEC has two games they play that’s out of their respective division. One permanent cross conference rival, example: A&M plays cross conference rival South Carolina; Missouri plays Florida etc., then teams, in West and East division, plays a team from the opposing division that rotates, example: Arkansas plays Georgia this year and a different SEC East team the next and vice versa. With OU and Texas coming in, I don’t see that rotation being disrupted other than readjusting conference division teams in the west and east. And the conference title game staying in Atlanta.
Sec would go to 4 divisions . Play same three teams every year in your division and rotate other divisions so that every 4 years you would host every other team in sec. the difference between the sec and every other conference is the grind every week. Bring it on RTR!!
How much you wanna bet the Big 12 caves and stops all the 11am kickoff bullsh*t. The Nebraska debacle forced OU to take some action
Less to do with that and more to do with ESPN/FOX saying "we're good" when the Big 12 approached them about doing a new longterm deal in May.
Totally agree, but what if we get offered? What u say then?
Wrestling would have to find a place since no SEC school has it!
Yeah even MU will wrestle in the Big 12 this year.
No offense to wrestling (those guys are badasses), but we don't believe they factor much into the decision making here.
@@OK_Breakdown I totally agree.....I was just pointing out that the true badasses will have to work something else out.
Wrestling already has their own conference so I don't think anything will change with that
If the B12 doesn't implode. OU wrestling program will just be affiliated with the B12 and wrestle in that conference. Not a big deal. B12 has many schools affiliated with the conference.
An hour an 49 folks we’ve been blessed I just wished it was 3 hours long lmao
It definitely went long but there was just so much to talk about!
Iron Sharpens Iron. I can only see positives for Oklahoma. Recruiting, TV, facilities, etc. would be off the charts.
Boomer!!!!
It is not going to happen because Texas is not going to share revenue, personally, I grew up with Oklahoma and Nebraska being national powerhouses in the regions of the great plains. In 1971 Nebraska beat Oklahoma 35-31and Nebraska beat Alabama 38-6; you could not pay nobody in the SEC or Big Ten to schedule a game with Oklahoma or Nebraska. At the end of the year Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Colorado finished 1,2 &3 in the AP poll. That is dominance, my friend. My guess is this a play on Fox Sports to get more primetime night games for the Big 12.
This is going to be an interesting addition to the SEC...could OU/Bama be new national rivalry? Go Pokes & Go Huskers!!
Teddy making a lot of sense about Roster Depth, Skill, plus the SEC grind. No Saturdays off and your share of "Ass Whippin's".
if you want to be the best, you have to play the best!
As a mountaineers fan I’m all for it because that would leave the door open for us to join the ACC. Where we actually belong.
Gabe, do you call Barry Switzer coach or Barry?
I agree there could be some risk, but don't agree if they were in sec this year they wouldn't be number 1 in either division.
The sec is top heavy. Recently it's mostly been carried by bama, lsu, and Georgia. Texas a&m/Florida/auburn has been middle of pack and the rest of the conference has been crap. LSU is trending down since that OC went to the Panthers. So I think they will be in the run for the conference champ every year still.
Riley's excellent recruiting would be even better because they'd be in the sec.
I think Texas will go independent rather than go to the sec because I think they would have to give up the longhorn network, which is the reason the big 12 started to go to crap in the first. With that and the big 12 not ever having Oklahoma's back is why we are finally looking to leave.
Something I haven’t seen talked about IF it gets announced before the season don’t you think every big 12 ref/school other than OU/Texas will try to screw us (both) over on any questionable calls or situations in games this fall?
Good point
A&M also leaked the Bomar story if I’m not mistaken.
It was talked about MONTHS before it broke on a Aggie sports message board for sure.
Like during previous season. A guy claiming to be a insider at A&m started blabbing about bomar and Big red in Norman. Every one blew him off till months later...
The new SEC west: Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi and Mississippi State. The new SEC east: Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina.
I think this is just the beginning. Expect 4 more teams to join them with Ohio ST, Michigan, Clemson, Florida State and Notre Dame being the frontrunners. You could have 4 divisions with 5 teams each playing 9 conference games and each division could play a different division every year with a extra conference game thrown in for rivalries keeping things fresh and fair. From there they could just decide to have their own 4 to 8 team in-conference playoff every year and just break away from everybody else in the NCAA. This is my theory of whats going to happen.
Here's a thought.... is this decision of bringing more money to school a way to try to keep grinch on board?
Yes, they are going to the SEC in order to keep their current defensive coordinator from taking a head coaching job next year. And they can’t afford a raise without it.
This is more about money longterm security than anything else.
No, it’s about OU. If Grinch gets the right offer, he’s gone. Nice conspiracy story though.
Because super conferance will be a thing, would the sec surrender ou and it to the big 10 accord or pac 12?
Besides bama what school has a better roster then Oklahoma???? I don't see anyone else...
Georgia, LSU are at least the equal of OU. Perhaps better. Of course that does not always determine a game’s outcome
@@andrewrogers2313 Not really equal. Maybe a couple yrs ago but not now.
@@andrewrogers2313 Georgia and LSU aren’t equal to Alabama. Georgia chokes all the time and lsu aside from the joe burrow team hasn’t been relevant
@Cameron Davis you must not follow recruiting. It shows
It's about the grind every week. Yall see. Sec grind real. It's a marathon and depth kills .
49:00 UG or UT??
What purpose would it serve us to move to the SEC?! There are 13 teams already in the SEC. I was at OU from the 95-98 and when the Big 12 was coming together they were saying we would be moving to several different conferences. It makes ZERO sense.
Grant of rights break up fees won't be an issue if the conference totally dissolves.
I wonder what Coach Stoops Thinks about OU to SEC ?
Winning does matter, both tx. & ou. Are marqui programs....historically , with that said , we've heard super conference for how long now? Well folks it's here. Notre Dame is feeling pressured join the acc. Can a 2 loss sec, or a 2 loss acc. Be in playoff contention? He'll yes we've seen it. Good for the game,? He'll yeah.
In terms of talent.. Texas is the most talented in the big 12 based on composite recruiting rankings. If Texas were in the SEC, they would rank 3rd in talent behind bama and georgia
This is how I see it... OU was upset with the way they are being treated being the top money bringer.. and Texas seen this and told OU they were going to the sec... and OU knew they couldn't stay behind
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Yes
oh, i hope, i hope!!!!
Couple comments: wait till you play a big 10 school and we’ll be hearing that SEC chant. Secondly they’re Texas now SEC has a UT
Cool! :)
Damn a chelada sounds good right now
Alabama has 6 national championships in the past 12 years and only 7 conference championships in that same timespan only winning consecutive titles once. The SEC is different.
OU does not have a very record lately against the SEC.
Oddly enough my question is in regards to the Jordan deal. There’s only one team in each conference that has the Jordan brand as opposed to Nike.
I would hope we retain the Jordan brand even though this seems like a small factor but who knows with NIL?
As far as going to the SEC. Let’s Go!!!
Oklahoma is doing well recruiting now. But sadly they would do better recruiting in the SEC. Can you tell us at the expense of who? There are only so many 5 stars and 4 stars many go to SEC schools every year. At whose expense would Oklahoma football recruiting get better? Say Oklahoma does really well for the first few years in the SEC. They will better their recruiting at the expense of what teams?
It's not about a short fall OU is good. But with a 12 team playoff they don't have to win the SEC every year. If they are top 3 theyre in the playoff
I think the SEC wouldn't mind having another Blue Blood in it's ranks. Two more if we're being generous. Wait until the SEC finds out how many National Championships OU could be claiming......
Go ahead and complete the South
Almost lol they would need 2 add WV, MD , VA, and NC 2 fully complete it tho 💀😂 the recruiting in that conference would go crazy tho 😳
@@boutda4322 I live in Maryland and culturally it's not southern. But I hear you
@@OKG1979 the Eastern shore
@@boutda4322 yeah that's country not southern.
@@OKG1979 nah it looks exactly like the south
The sec hears the Thunder of Hooves coming all the trash talkers disrespecting OU gna get real ( when getting real goes bad) Boomer
One thing people arent talking about is all the Big 12 Offenses getting spread out to other conferences. I wonder how the Pac 12 would handle OkSt. Its gonna be hard for the SEC teams to prepare for OU every week.
Only if you like drama would you like Texas and Oklahoma being part of the SEC
I don't like it. I kinda had a feeling the NIL thing would end up ruining college sports...
The big 12 hoops is the top conference... sec would not be better for hoops...
During the last expansion, it was shown that basketball does NOT drive television revenue! Ask Kansas, whom was going to be left out in the cold!
This is all about football revenue.
@@andrewrogers2313 He never said anything about revenue. Only B tier SEC fans care about revenue. Real fans care about winning.
Oklahoma could dominate the new SEC West.
Welcome to the big boy league,not going to be so as in the weak 12.
We haven't won a title in over 20 years. OU fans are pissed off with ANY season since 2000. Who cares about 7 straight titles in a trash league that is about to dosolve.
I'd rather win a random title like LSU did in 2019 or every 6-10 years win a conference and Natty. Nothing else matters
See I'm already read for sec as a fan
@theSparkyWatts I know I'm late in this comment but I was also about to say you already sound like us SEC fans 🤣
@@Grimm-UGA haha thanks brother
Slow down boys. Do the math. The coming 12 team playoff model means the Big 12 champion, and runner up, will likely be in every playoff. OU will not trade that, for a situation where the ONLY way to get to the playoff, is to beat Alabama. Never gonna happen. It's a DOWNGRADE to go to the SEC, in a 12 team playoff model.
You're doing the wrong math. This is all about guaranteed TV dollars. SEC conference distribution would be massive with OU and Texas in it. It's all about money and longterm security.
@@OK_Breakdown You might be right! I'm coming around on it, now that I realize in a 12 team playoff, the SEC will get at least 4 teams in. I'm pretty sure we can manage top 4 in the SEC, nearly every year.
Oklahoma st, Kansas st, and lowa st are just as good as everyone in the sec not named bama.... the sec is over hyped...
I agree 100% Texass would love the move because the chances OU stumbling are greater and Texass is tired of getting kicked by OU and the Big 12. Guess they would rather get kicked in the SEC. It is exciting to think about the games but giving into the mighty SEC is sell out move and Texas Judas Goating OU is disappointing.
K-state or Ok St is as good as Florida, LSU or Georgia? I don’t think so… maybe every now and then but not enough to compete every year.
That's utter nonsense. Those teams are as good as anyone's middle tier team, but the thing that makes the SEC great, contrary to MU fans, is that they have 4 or 5 top tier teams, instead of 1 or 2, like other conferences. It's not all just Bama. They are top heavy, yes. But it's not just Bama. Come on with that...
Erick...that's just not true.
No
OU is a joke and the qb is unique looking
You are a Joke