Secrets of the Germanic Tribes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In order to understand the Germanic Tribes, it's important to know about their roots and history in both broader and larger contexts. So this is what I've attempted to do here, along with some DNA-research towards the end. Thanks for watching!
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Short time index:
11:00 Pytheas and his trip to Ultima Thule
13:50 The significance of trade
16:20 Invasions of the Roman Empire
17:00 On the Heruli, Suebi and Rugii
21:00 DNA
Links and sources for further reading:
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For Ingaevones, Istvaeonic and Irminonic: en.wikipedia.o...
Pytheas map: www.flickr.com...
Amber roads: pgm.ldm.lt/en/a...
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Language tree lrc.la.utexas....
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Barbarians on Netflix: www.netflix.com/title/81024039www.netflix.com/title/81024039
Painting by Edmund Blair Leighton:
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DNA:
Half of Western European men descended from one Bronze Age ‘king’:
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A History of the Iberian Peninsula, as Told by Its Skeletons:
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Arrival of Beaker folk changed Britain for ever, ancient DNA study shows:
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Scientific papers:
Why are adult daughters missing from ancient German cemeteries? www.sciencemag...
Modern DNA reveals ancient male population explosions linked to migration and technology
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The Beaker phenomenon and the genomic transformation of northwest Europe
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Ancient genomes indicate population replacement in Early Neolithic Britain
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The genomic history of the Iberian Peninsula over the past 8000 years
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Patterns of genetic differentiation and the footprints of historical migrations in the Iberian Peninsula
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Our town, New Ulm, MN., has a Hermann the German statue based on Arminius and the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. It's pretty cool.
The pleasure is ours Sturla, learning through spoken word is so much more enjoyable. I find I have to read something multiple times before I'm able to absorb things. Keep up the very interesting videos,they are all greatly appreciated.
Thanks Sturla, very interesting! I live in Uppsala, where we have a very rich historic record, not the least the old gravemounds of Gamla Uppsala. Lots of ship graves, mounds and also more ancient remains.
And we also had what is known as the “State Institute for Racial Biology” (or in Swedish: Statens institut för rasbiologi) 😏
@Mikael That sounds horrible.
I was very happy to see this content in your lecture series! My family is from Bremen. When I was a child my Oma taught us stories and songs in high German. I wish as an adult I could remember it. I also appreciate the links that you posted. I’m having a nerdy girl moment enjoying the DNA papers! ☀️
Do you remember some of the titles?
Maikàfer flieg ?
l am an American,my Y dna haplo is I1,when I learned my connection with the Norse it explained a lot about my personal nature.
From Männerbünde to Viking warrior code to Chivalric code, was an enlightenment for me thanks for that wisdom.....mind blown!
From Texel. I enjoy hearing about the old tribes.
Wow, you tied SO many things together in this, well done!! And thanks for all the links:)
Fascinating - a lot to take in - I shall have to watch it several times - many thanks
Hey Sturla, i was listening to some podcast and they said back when the Romans left even after the Angles Saxons and Frisians had settled they called upon 2 chieftains from northern Europe to settle differences, like people had authority across the sea to call upon, very interesting...
Thank you kindly, For the continued edifying content. There are some of us who have traveled far and away, though it is encouraging to hear you talk about what’s in our DNA. Know well that we are also working in this way.♥️
I have been learning history for many years and you stretched all of it today with this video to where it was so thin it was almost see through. Very informative and I will be subscribing
Germans the Abrahamic tribe of Judah Pharez. Isaac's sons. Saxons.
Thank you Sturla, it’s good to have a big sweeping picture of migration to help us understand the larger historical perspective, always appreciated ❗️
As always, you serve a fascinating and informative video in a good, clear way. Thank you from Hordaland.
Nice video 👍Canefate,Batavian,Frisian here!
Also known as a Dutchman😉
I2a diverged from the main I (which split into I1 and I2) long before the Germanic migration. Oldest known I2 sample recovered from archeological skeletons is a 13,500 year-old man from the Grotte du Bichon in Switzerland associated with the Azilian culture (see Jones et al. (2015).
Lack of I2 in Scandinavia with lack of I1 in the Balkans further proves that the two haplos evolved independently. I2 is most probably not even local to the Balkans, but is local to Ukraine/Belarus/border between Neolithic Trypillian and Yamnaya , arriving in the Balkans and suffering a sort of founding father situation in what is now Bosnia during the Slavic migrations.
My new best friend. Working on a fictional tale set during Fimbulwinter.
Excellent organization and content.
Uurrrrgh... 🐻🍀💙
Yay Rogaland! Some of my family is from Egersund. The other is from Larvik.
Another great video! I can trace my direct male ancestry to Sir Robert Le Skynnere Baron of Bolingbrook. Norman knight and uncle (mother’s side) to William Duke of Normandy. He lost his left hand in combat fighting beside William at the battle of Hastings. He married an Anglo Saxon lord’s daughter and took her fathers lands (as did most Norman noble.) I now have some answers why I have 1% Balkan and 1% Iberian DNA, along with my German and Norwegian DNA. It was a mystery until I found your video. Thanks!
I wanted so much to listen to you, but forgot my earbuds! You speak very softly for a Viking... :)
One of the more interesting and untapped stories are the viking presence in Spain. The Visigoths and Suebi were the founders of what is now Spain,specifically in the North where a visigothic nobleman named Don Pelayo started the reconquista. Gunrod and ulvgaliciefarer spent alot of time in northern spain. I believe their was a settlement of.vikings hired by the spanish king alphonso to protect the borders of leon from the moors
Don pelayo was an a native astur and yes vikings raided a lot cantabria,Galicia, al-andalus, pamplona, and balearic islands
I would love to make a video on Don Pelayo, the Visigoths and the Suebi. But I should travel to Spain for this video. That's my intention.. :)
@@VikingStories nice, i think you will like to visit Galicia Asturias, basque country, and castilla leon y la mancha for that fron visigoths and suebii
@@dinamycvideosgaming1597 I have been to Castilla Leon and the Basque country before. I need to return soon though. I like the region very much!
@@VikingStories nice :) balearic islands ia good to is where i live now we have a legend that bjorn ironside went to Mallorca one time
Great knowledge shared with masses, thank you!
You should make a video on how the Norseman left influence and genetics on Iberia during their times of conquest!
Underbart, fortsätt.
Hell den som framsade;
Ärad vare den som kan;
Njute den som begrep;
Lycklige den som lyssnat..
Hi, I'm a Portuguese with an R1b1b2a1a1d1* L47 DNA. A german DNA that possibly came from Engish Vikings on the 9th-century raids, Or with the Norman on the Reconquista. We suspect being related to Malahulc, at least one of our cousins thinks he is related, we didn't found studies to support that. The interesting part of this particular DNA is that we have a lot of Jews cousins in eastern Europe. It's been really interesting to learn from you. Best regards, Rodrigo Tavares
I also have German DNA I'm Asturian, Galician, and Portuguese lol
I enjoyed this netflix series even tho there is a little too much "strong woman" in main woman character
Yeah I mostly liked the series too, but it turns out the creators of it are super woke. Apparently they even casted Arminius, to not be an actor who looked too "Germanic" with blond hair and such. They specifically wanted somebody that would look like a foreigner for the role, and even then they made him play second fiddle to Thusnelda. They were apparently really worried about accidently making a "Far-right icon" of a main character in the show. All things considered it could have been worse though.
@@Nordic_Barbarian True, I think he was blonde and tall
But he probably did have that yee yee ass haircut because he was with the Romanz n shiet
@@jaklm4221 haha made me chuckle "yee yee ass haircut" 😂
Do not believe what you here see in Netflix! Watch the History Channel instead!
Sabellius Maximus Well there's actually alot of truth to it, Roman journalists wrote alot about female fighters in the Germanic ranks, especially during the final days of Rome in the 470s AD many of the Germanic sackers and pillagers were females
Interesting perspective on the evolution of the "Mannerbunde" to Medieval chivalry.
I had previously assumed that the Sueben are the later Swabians. The first German landing in eastern Austria respectively in Steiermark took place at the time of Charlemagne and went as far as the Burgenland border. Wooden fortifications, the so-called Schützenhöfe ('Sagittarii-Yards'), were erected from the Wechsel-mountain in the north to about the Riegersburg in the south. Most of them fell when the Hungarians defeated the German army in 907. However, the Schützenhöfer family name has survived in this region to this day, my mother still had it as her maiden name. The second wave of settlement in this region took place in the 11th and 12th centuries by Bavarian settlers. In addition to Bavaria, the first wave of settlements is said to also have come from Swabia. Swabian settlements may have persisted in remote areas of the Joglland (where my father descended from), since these (nearby) areas are inhabited by a somewhat different breed of people who are said to be Swabians still nowadays. They also look a bit different, a bit prettier and many with dark ice blue eyes like my father and me have. The joke is that these two groups have a similar banter between themselves as you do with the Danes or Swedes.
Awesome Sturla!👍👍👍 Sorry I missed it until now🥴
Btw, I just got my first Flatøyboka, but #3 tough not #1 so I have to study all about Olav den hellige😁 first then order #1 ….
And Thank You so much for sharing the best stuff on TH-cam 🍻Skål🍺
That's a great book. I've got the first one only, for now..
Not far from the ~3500 yo "Kings grave" in southern Sweden, there is a village called Ravlunda. Rav is the old norse word for amber (Ravlunda~Ambergrove). Any connection?
Must be. Thanks!
At the time 15:13 in the video, you overlay the text on the map, with Mjälleborgen in Sweden.
I have ancestry from Skancke in Hackås in Jämtland, and the Skancke family spread to several places in Norway. Among them Røros and Trondheim, and they had lots of contacts between Hackås, Røros and Trondheim.
Actually there is still one tradition that is in effect even to this day. Every year some people start from Jämtland and go to Røros by horse-sleigh in the winter, That tradition has been there for hundreds of years.
That's really cool to know. Thanks. I have plans to go see Mjälleborgen, one of the most important places in Iron Age Scandinavia. And a sleigh ride to Røros from there would be something.. All best
@@VikingStories I think the sleigh tide is in the beginning of January. I live in Stockholm, and have never been to Jmtland myself, but I have many distant relatives that grew up near Hackås.
I would also like to go on such a sleigh ride sometime.
BRILLIANT!!! So much knowledge, so beautifully shared. 💞
This was a great video, thank you!
Hope you guys can also make a documentary about the Batavi and the Batavian Revolt against the Romans wich was directly caused by the Year of the Four Emperors.
28:05 Just stunning!
Keep up the great work Sturla!!
you are a great guy old chap
This video was amazing! Very interesting and so informative! Takk, Sturla !
Another fascinating video :) I'm definitely looking forward to the one on the three year winter!
Our older sons's name is Armin, our younger's Siegmar. Later on we figured out that Arminius father's name was Segimer (Siegmar) 😊
It's been a pleasure to listen to another great lesson from you! Thank you.
As an American who has Old Germanic blood, I’m glad that I can find more information about them. 🥰
Good sir would you mind at some point possibly making a video about the finnish people's role during the viking age? ive read things that they played a bigger part during the viking age but it pretty much gets ignored. Id be really interested to hear what you have to say about the Finns ☺
Fascinating Lecture! I'm convinced that Pytheas and the Thule voyage are key to linking developments between prehistoric and Greco-Roman periods. And Pytheas may have taken a Latitude reading near the shores of Belfast Lough - my home territory :-)
Many thanks. I agree with you Dr. McLaughlin! And I am honored to have contact with a Lachlann descendant, which makes you a distant cousin of mine:)
@@VikingStories A distant Kinsman! The North Channel/Irish Sea has been a maritime highway throughout history. The McLaughlan Clan have homelands in Inishowen on the extreme north of Ireland and across the sea in Argyle in Western Scotland. My fathers from Tyrone, but I grew up in the townland between Strangford Loch (Strangr Fjörðr) and Ballyholme Bay where they found a Viking grave in 1903. There is a strong Norse influence in Irish history that is overlooked and marginalised due to modern political narratives.
Think about that for a second.. ' The Nordic Bronze Age was the richest in Europe's history. '
right on. enjoyed. thank yew
Funny fact: there is an old village on Gotland called Roma.
As always, terribly enjoyed! 😍
Old Norse-speaking population settled parts of Finland's coastal areas in the 12th to 13th centuries. Swedish language differentiated from the eastern Norse dialects by the 13th century.
From the American Presidency Project, Proclamation 9943-German-American Day, 2019: “On German-American Day, we proudly celebrate the contributions German Americans have made to our Nation through their dedication and hard work. The seeds of German-American heritage sown over three centuries ago, when the 13 German families landed in Philadelphia in 1683, continue to flourish and prosper in our country.”
From the Library of Congress: “The German immigrant story is a long one-a story of early beginnings, continual growth and steadily spreading influence. Germans were among the first Europeans to make their homes in the New World, and are among the United States' most recent arrivals. They were aboard the first boats that came ashore at Jamestown, and they built the rockets that took men to the moon. In the years in between, they moved into nearly every corner of the U.S., tried their hand at nearly every trade and pursuit, and helped shape the fundamental institutions of American life.
“Though they endured their share of hardship, they escaped much of the tragedy and harsh treatment that plagued many immigrant groups. Today, more than 40 million Americans claim German ancestry.”
Key Stats:
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, International Data Base (demographic data) and USA Trade Online (trade data); Central Intelligence Agency, The World Factbook (country reference maps).
18:00 Hey, yes! I'm from the area where the Suebi settled (Galicia) and yes, my haplogroup is I1 (I-Z58) so maybe it has to do with their heritage.
I'm watching you videos with delay, yes, but I'm watching them :P
Im Galician descendent now i live in Mallorca wich dna test gives to yo the haplogroup?
@@dinamycvideosgaming1597 23andMe, for example. That's the one I used
@@roicervino6171 thanks
@@dinamycvideosgaming1597 how did it go, man?
@@roicervino6171 well my haplo is R-M153 Basque Celtic French :) and my second surname is french it was part of DF27 but negative in Iberian it got possible positive in english frankish subclade
Måske din allermest interessante video. Meget lærerig. Tusind tak, Sturla!
Nordic people were Germanic peoples. Many Germanic peoples originated in Scandinavia to say anything else is just ridiculous. The Norse language and modern Scandinavian languages are northern Germanic. Only a blind man would say that the Norse are Germanic.
That has to be the nicest language tree i have ever seen.
I'd love to have that as a large print
I like the addition of cats to the graphic...at least I think they are cats.
Thank you. Wonderful lecture.
You are the first one that I have heard mentioning the Jutes (from Jutland) together with Geets (Götar in Götaland) and Gutar (from Gotland) and also Goths.
The names Jutar, Götar and Gutar sound very similar, and I have though about a possible relation between them before, but I haven't seen anything about the jutar being related to götar and gutar before you mentioned it.
I can't remember where I read it, but the J in Jylland/Jutland/Jutes apparently were spoken closer to a G in ancient times (like in Gothic). Similar to the Charudes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charudes
Thanks Sturla! A question. You say at 24:15 that the 90% population replacement by Beaker Folk in Britain was “about men”. Are you sure? It seems that the 2018 paper is referring to “genome wide ancestry”, i.e. both male AND female. This does confuse me a little, as samples from modern people seem to show significantly higher proportions of both Neolithic Farmer and Western Hunter Gatherer. Am I reading something incorrectly? Thanks!
Are there explanations as to why the Goths kept traveling so far, and didn't settle down earlier, closer to their ancestral homeland?
Maybe they raided Slavs on their way and bent their lifestyle to a kind of nomad life
I think they were moved around by the Romans and then in the migration era saw their chance to take over some of the former roman colonies, which is why many ended up in Spain and Italy
@@jaklm4221 none of the Germanic tribes were particularly settled.
My semi-educated observation of other large migrations is large populations don't move unless they have to. In no particular order::
Food: overpopulation, drought, starvation, resource depletion
Danger: threat from a stronger group, defeated and fleeing from foes.
Climate: ties in with food. Cimbri and Teutones as examples.
Replacement: connected with danger/war, moving into an area vacated by defeated people.
You could say power grabs, land grabs or minerals grabs but that really connects with danger & war.
The details vary with the time and location but reasons remain quite basic. Today many individuals move because "the grass is greener on the other side" or they just want to live somewhere else. To move 200,000 or more people takes a big reason like survival whether the enemy is nature or man.
The goths settled in different areas not just Spain and Italy...they went to Germany, France, Austria and the Netherlands... However originally they are from Gotland Sweden.
Thank you for your videos!
Am I get it right, you say it is possible the Balkan I2 haplogroup is connected to German tribes, especially to Heruli/Heruls?
Not sure. Difficult to say
@@VikingStories thank you!
Nordic and Celtic peoples actually had the same Lingua- Franca of German actually!
Paul Langfocus channel on TH-cam, this guy is the best lyricist..
very interesting. but there was also a slavic/ nomadic migration from the east into scandinavia because the early khans have make trouble. even my own dna test shows that. it goes from scandinavia over balticum and east europe into centralasia/ india. so the vikings are not very germanic. they are more like a cousin i would say. there was a time where slavic tripes have found empty land in europe because most germanic tripes have migrate into the christian frankenreich in the west.
You look great man, very strong. Glad to see it.
At 29:00 there are conflicting interpretations of this and it's due to I1 being relatively uncommon before Indo-Europeanization.
Could it be that some pre IE-lineages in Scandinavia such as I1, certain clades of I2, J2a, G2a and others fared better in certain regions because they were from maritime cultures? I certainly think so. I1 has an interesting parallel with another lineage more common in Southern Europe, J2a, the lineage of the Minoans and as it appears some Myceneans (likely integrated and downstream from Minoans, this is the case for the only tested Mycenaean I know of at least). And look at how J2a clusters in southern Europe, it's very concentrated to certain coasts and Islands, like I1 in among the Nordics. More so you also see a strain of morality in all that was passed down to us from the pre-Christian era which is still no doubt shocking to some; in those I1 and J2a-dominant regions of Europe, piracy was not only culturally acceptable but considered noble.
Also while G2a became less and less common after a point for the farmers, with I2 and even non-IE clades of R1b becoming more common in the Funnelbeaker culture for instance, certain clades of G2a fared better in the geographical extremes of northern and southern Europe, where pre-IE maritime traditions existed. This is a pattern which existed before Indo-Europeanization as well, with the Pitted Ware Culture (I2-dominant) re-taking at least some of the coastline in Scandinavia from the Neolithic farmers. Although now some are sure after a certain point these two cultures, PWC and FC were fairly indistinguishable or shared enough common traits. And certain clades of G2a and E seem to also found refuge in mountainous regions and become more common there, yet I still see the pattern.
I think it's at least part of the puzzle of why I1 had such a trajectory, going from possibly just one man
Very interesting thoughts, Dirk. Yes, I1 is indeed a puzzle. But it should get sorted in the coming (few) years ahead with new research. Have you got some links for me to read up on some of your notions?
@@VikingStories I am flattered by you even asking Sturla. Unfortunately I am a layman at all things prehistory, genetics and things I'm actually interested in these last few years, and very much doubt I've seen any papers that you haven't. This is just a pattern I've noticed since taking a few courses at uni and reading into philology and population genetics. If you're interested, please read below and I will explain my ideas, and I hope it all doesn't sound too schizophrenic or rambling.
Certain potential loanwords from pre-IE Greek like lyre, Labyrinth, copper, Odysseus, etc aren't so easily explained as being ultimately rooted in IE by philologists. This is especially the case for certain metals, geographical names, place names, the anatomy of ships, certain gods (Dionysus). To me this is indicative of pre-IE culture being so well developed in parts of the Mediterranean, especially parts related to Minoans that they survived Indo-Europeanization through maritime, martial and technological prowess.
It makes sense when you look at it from the perspective of potential plague possibly contributing to the Indo-European conquest, that these more advanced Neolithic cultures could survive while the weaker EEF cultures were totally subdued. But more so, when you have ship technology and technological craftsmanship that is more advanced than horse raiders and chariot riders from the steppe have ever seen it helps your chances. I think in Northern Europe at that point this would be translated to things like, also more advanced ships but liths and tools that were at least comparable to anything Corded Ware Culture was bringing to the table initially, outside of their horse-based technology.
The Neolithic Farmer cultures had impressive cultures but Crete and the Minoan settlements stood head and shoulders over their contemporaries, all contemporaries in fact and this translated into not perishing culturally or genetically in the Indo-European conquest. I never cared for learning about them as a boy, because, you know who wants to learn about the defeated? No one remembers who finished 2nd. But it's clear to me now that it was more of a cultural transformation in some cases, for some peoples at least. Minoans were explorers and traders before Indo-Europeanization. If I'm not mistaken, you even have some samples of Linear A script in rock carvings in Norway. They and the Mycenaeans played a significant role on the development of the Nordic Bronze Age, possibly proto-Germanic cosmology, language and culture. They seem to have been kind of bro-tier in many respects.
When I heard that the Mycenaean remains tested were J2a and likely downstream from a Minoan ancestor, not R1, not J2b or some lineage indisputably from the Steppe, I knew it in my own mind that this pattern I was seeing made more sense than other explanations. It is from this lineage (and possibly the I2, G2a, E, etc present in Greece and the surrounding islands) that the Greek substrate came from.
Now I do believe there is a pre-IE Germanic linguistic substrate, but it couldn't possibly be as strong as that of the Minoan/EEF influence on Greek for a few reasons. And philologists will echo that constantly, as they should when they find those errors, that words in Germanic languages which seem like they are pre-IE loanwords can often be explained as IE words, or possible IE words, just you know very different from what was expected.
This leads to I1. The MRCA of some 99% of the I1 haplogroup was likely in the Neolithic Dagger period of Scandinavia, which was during the early phases of the Corded Ware Culture most likely. So at that point, this I1 man was genetically mostly Indo-European. Culture tends to follow such things, so this man would have been speaking an IE language and held IE customs. This interpretation could be wrong, but I do know that you start to see Kurgan burials in the Scandinavian Neolithic era, and then and only then do you see finds of I1 men becoming common, never before. And they are found in these big mound burials no less, similar to what Agamemnon describes to Achilles in his own funeral in the Odyssey. So whatever pre-IE remnant existed was already integrated into this newly formed Battle Axe Culture at that point. But at that point the transition was complete, an ethnogenesis was already basically complete with a new elite, some IE, some pre-IE, as is likely the case in SE Europe with the Mycenaeans. And like J2a in the Mediterranean, I1 clusters around the coastlands and islands of Scandinavia.
I believe the G2a in Scandinavia had a similar bottleneck/founder effect, but for whatever reason didn't have as much success under the circumstances of Indo-Europeanization as I1. So we can to some extent even disregard the statistical anomaly of I1 and see that there is a pattern there with G2a persisting where further away from the sea G2a likely couldn't, only in the Mediterranean is it more common than in Germanic cultures. Likely only when G2a dispersed with Roman conquest in the iron age did it become more common inland, similar to I haplogroups once again becoming more common in places like Iberia, France, Italy, Britain, etc with Germanic conquest. And it's possibly the same case with certain clades of I2 and Q-L804 (some SHG remnants among them?) even existing. Time will tell.
Either way I look forward to discovering more about Norse history in the coming years, hopefully with you at the helm Sturla. I have many more out-there ideas on all sorts of things if you're ever interested.
@@dirksharp9876 Great comment. Just some pointers:
- G2a seems practically absent in Scandinavian aDNA, even among the EEF groups. Scandinavian EEF remains so far have belonged to I2. Considering the low frequency of G2a in present-day Scandinavians and the dificulties agriculturalists faced in Scandinavia, it's unlikely G2a-rich groups ever penetrated far into Scandinavia or underwent a founder effect there. Among Swedes and Norwegians, G2a seems to represent less than 2% of the total Y-DNA. Among Danes, it reaches about 4%.
- The Dagger Period represents the beginning of the final stage of the Corded Ware culture in Scandinavia, so not really an early phase of the CWC.
- Can direct contact between Nordic Bronze Age people and Mycenaeans really be proven, or are the connections and similarities simply a result of indirect/intermediary contacts through trade in Central Europe? This one I'm not sure about.
Good points, Erik. Here are two links, the latter is part of a series of publications:
www.academia.edu/36974280/Minoan_Greek_traders_in_Norway
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X19302470
@@Cross-checker Thank you Erik.
G2a, it appears it was a principle lineage of Neolithic Europe at least initially, including Northern Europe. One of the few samples of a pre-CWC/NBA man with I1 was found buried next to a G2a man in Neolithic Hungary.
There were events of violence between farmers and hunter-gatherers, in places like Iberia and Scandinavia with the PWC. Such events can explain a replacement of paternal lineages in the Funnelbeaker Culture, as well as other locations were EEF cultures were less well established than their southern counterparts. G2a men were apparently living alongside I2 men in Neolithic western and southern Europe. I do see what you mean, that later on it seems most Funnelbeaker finds were I2 and EHG-descended R1 even, more so than G2a by far. Looking into that source from Uppland, not too many individuals were tested and I seem to have implied an overstated presence of G2a in Scandinavia. But there is Nordic G2a, there is G2a present in Viking graves and Germanic migrations as early as the Wielbark Culture.
It seems you're correct also about CWC, but I would have anticipated stone daggers being less common at that point in time. The daggers themselves were so intricate, like something you would see at older hunter-gatherer finds. I would have thought that was some kind of creative way of coping due to not having enough metal to make metal daggers like the more Central European cultures. Which it was, but with the trade routes CWC had likely established one could easily assume they would have had more advanced technology.
As far as the Minoans and the Mycenaeans in direct contact with the NBA, absolutely. It has been proven. One can't overstate the influence of the archaic Greeks on the whole of bronze age Europe, but the NBA seems to have been an exception.
The rock carving of linear A script in Norway has been confirmed, it was a silver mine. This was the earliest of such contact I'm aware of.
Sturla's links are better than mine but I'd still like to link you to the paper from Morner and Lind. It's bound to be more convincing than my rambling. The paper itself is from 2015 so there is a chance you've seen it, but they provide great sources and go into detail on multiple artifacts, grave sites, possible Greek influence on solar traditions/cultic practices and also what would likely become the cult of Freyr. This site I'm linking has better images of what they're referencing than what you may find elsewhere, the editor's notes are also correct. Also keep in mind that more has been found since this was first published.
novoscriptorium.com/2019/02/23/ancient-mediterraneans-in-scandinavia-bronze-age-trade/
my dna has germanic Europe decent im trying to find my tribe it’s been hard
Tak for din deling.
I love your voice or accent or something... I don't know why I couldn't turn off this video. 😂🤣😍🤦♀️🤷♀️
Yes, it is very captivating.
Awesome.
Personally i strongly believe that the Viking age actually started because of the Christians.
I believe they used to trade with Europe before that.
But then the Christians made it illegal to trade with Pagans.
From that moment they was almost forced to go from trade to raid, and that is when we start to see the famous warship/Viking ships being changed with their traditional trading ships
I see a lot of similarities between the Vikings and the Mongols.
The Mongols was also kind of forced to go from trade to war, when China refused to do trade with them..
I dont say that this alone was the reason, but i do believe it was the main reason.
And maybe that also explain why they liked extra much to attack religious settlements?
(beside from the fact that religion has always been collecting gold and silver in general and was poorly defended).
But this is just a personal belief i have, maybe you as a historian know more about this?
You should look into the Saxon wars against Charlemagne. The Saxon leader took refuge in Denmark for a short time, then eventually returned to Saxony and was defeated by Charlemagne, who then massacred thousands and forcefully converted them to Christianity. The Viking raids from Denmark started shortly after that.
You should take a look at the Norwegian King Sagas. At one point at the Ting on Frosta the pagan farmer Asbjørn fra Medalhus spoke against Håkon Adalsteinsfostre when he tried to christianize them. If the king did not agree with them, then they would go to war against him. The speech that Asbjørn made ageinst him is actually really good. And remember, they had agreed to have him as king, but now that he was threatening their way of life and traditions, they made their right known that they would overthrow him and have him killed if he continued. It was tradition that the king was chosen by the chieftains and that if he ruled unwisely and broth suffering apon his own, then the chieftains and the people would get ridd of him. This was part of the old laws of the Thing system, an early form of semi direct democracy.
In Frosta a dog was supposedly chosen to rule some centuries before the Viking Age, in the legendary sagas. Frosta is really close to Værnes, an important place where all the trading goods from the north were unloaded from boats and transported eastwards up Stjørdal (Stjóri) and then on lakes and rivers through present day Sweden to the rich (and related) Forsa culture, as I show in a map in the video. Canadian Viking's point is also a valid one 👍
@@Nordic_Barbarian Kan that be the historical event that inspired the war between the Saxons and Danes against the Burgundians supported by Siegfried dem Drachentöter (“Sigurd Fafnersbane” in the nordic sagas) from the “Nibelungenlied” saga?
In the 2016 Canadian Census, 3,322,405 Canadians (nearly 10 per cent of the population) reported German origins, and 404,745 people in the country reported German as their mother tongue. A large proportion of these respondents lived in Ontario or central Canada.Jul 30, 2013
Note: 6:44 "Hindi"
The Goths of Ukraine are cultur name "Tchernyakov"
Very good job guy your video is interesting ! 👏
Thank you for the these videos, to help form a bigger picture. I do have a couple questions, which don't have any real evidence but purely based on a educated guess. Firstly I heard the Celtic tribes originated from the middle east, even the harp on Irish coins and and geunuss, is originally king David from the Bible. Also I myself am red-headed, growing up i thought I was mostly Irish, but I was predominantly scandansvidan, by 66% and 24% Irish. Sure there is red hair all over, but reddish brown tint is seen in most cultures. But the bright red hair and blue eyes has always been taken very superstitious. Where does this originate? I heard the Irish only picked up the trait from the vikings.
The more I have learned my lineage the more I understand myself and traits. I am pretty much 100% north man, From the germanic tribes, and when the Norman's came i know my major ancestors is William the conqueror, and its uncanny how much I reassemble him. And with the fall of the templars and the suite of eleanor to England. My last name was originally german and meant of the old field, but the german pronunciation sounds like awful In English a translation offield
I would love to do a video on this. In Norway many, many have read colored beards even if they are blonde. So this is an interesting topic..
Could you do a video in more detail about the link between mannerbunde to viking warrior code to chivalry?
And onwards.. yes, I am working on that. It's very interesting and cool
The Æsir-Vanir War is what happened, 2550 BC.
Imo it was the Single Grave Culture vs the Battle Axe Culture and lasted for centuries.
@@dirksharp9876, I'm currently studying Basque mythology and Vasconic at 16050 BC. Wow, so that would tell me the Battle Axe Culture could be the Vanir, and Hg-I1. I descend from the Battle Axe Culture, holy shit. Only 3 lines descend from the Battle Axe Culture, CTS12768, Z17954, and DF29. All sons of Hg-I1. Wow Dirk, thank you.
Good video, but volume was a bit too low.
Is in history and dna
The germanians most were living with the romans or next to them making businesses
That shirt is amazing. Where do I purchase one ☝️ please!!!
Michael: On the Faroe Islands :) You should be able to purchase one by sending an email to Durita, the leader of the Berserk reenactment group and co-owner of Viking Events on the Faroe Islands: hello@viking-events.fo
There was a collapse because of a flood ;) The Oera Linda.
Let me guess, the truth is being hidden from us because of the Jews, right? Or is it aliens in your particular fantasy? Alien Jews? Evidence aside from a nifty story that keeps cropping up in different cultures would be good. A story about a god who sacrifices himself (or part of himself) so that he can gain knowledge / teach compassion / bring the sun back into the sky has been used again and again through different religions and cultures. Doesn't make a single one of them the true story - they're only evidence that humans love telling tales about other humans/superhumans conquering nature and death, not evidence for supernatural beings.
Unfortunately the most utilitarian answer is often the correct one. But there's something to appreciate in that, too.
germanics best people on earth
Maybe not, but there are surely SOME things we might reasonably be proud of.
@@sadsackkvisling9694 some?
GERMANICS AND ROMANS (THE HUNS, KELTS AND THE 🍹 🐈:
GERMANICS: OH GOD
GERMANS TO GREEKS AND SPANIARDS: THE HUNNY BUNNY'S 🐇NEED A "LIGHTNING BOLT" UP THEIR *$$. SO IT WIL ROCK!
HUNGARY: ROMANCE (THE HUNNY'S)
FRANCE: ROMANCE
Indeed
Germanic people are full of rationality and freedom spirited... Unfortunately nowadays it has been lost due to racial mixing.
Cheers mate
Meh... Sturla makes me have to do something because he is giving his heart and his soul into things, so i thought about doing something to aid and show what and who the Viking stories are about, or should i say the Weekings, as they called themselves all those many years ago...
I have messaged a friend to draw...
German history 🔥 🇩🇪
Why do you think the Suebi have any connection to the swedes? It's quite common knowledge, that the modern day "Schwaben", how we call them in german, from the very southwest of Germany (Schwabenland in Baden-Würtemberg) are the descendants of the Suebi, or at-lease of their name. Would you care to elaborate on how exactly you see the connection of the suebi and the swedes (except for both being germanic of course haha)?
Maybe in the bronze age were in swden and later migrate to south western germany
Vestland does NOT include Rogaland, FYI.
Hg I2 in the Balkans has nothing to do with Heruli nor Goths, it's native Mesolithic I2 and also the one subclade which came back with the Croats in 7th century from southern Poland
I agree with you on that one. I1 however is another story..
@@VikingStories heruli most probably originated in Norway, as a collection of more than one tribe. Return migration perhaps a little more widespread.
@@Starkodder1963 most likely, it looks like 👍🏻
Forgot the Suevi that installed themselves in Galicia and North Portugal
I will never forget them.. they were important 👍🏻
Thanks Sturla
Julio cesar called all germanian
Later they separeted the gauls and germanian
I'm an eritrean visigoth cousin to ostragoths..we germanic barbarians we..
No one can tell me what is actually historically inaccurate in the series. Anyone know?
I'm talking specifically about the representation of the Germanic people.
This one is pretty good, Jordan: nordicmythologychannel.com/2020/10/29/barbarians-and-other-savages-from-my-neck-of-the-woods-a-review-of-the-new-netflix-series/
How about the actor chosen to portray the main character arminius , terrible ..he looks like a little twink definitely not realistic for a Germanic tribal chief. His wife is tougher than him
Where is the rum now?
Those female warriors though, ruin it for me. Can't find a good show nowadays that isn't ruined by some type of woke propaganda.
Is comic to have a viking speaking about germanics
Haalstatt culture
barbarians is also based on a real story around the battle of the teutoburger wald
Did you find any remains of the first (Anglo-Saxon) “New England” within Crimea, by any chance?
I found such thing, unfortunately. Everyone had heard about Goths though, as in folklore, which was unexpected. Considering how much slave trade went through Crimea to the Ottomans for 2-3 centuries, I am not sure it would be easy to find much, except perhaps for in certain villages far off.
@Viking Stories
Some Newspapers years ago, did some stories about a once “Nova Anglia/New England” within Crimea.
They and other Websites said that there was remains of one settlement still there, i think Somewhere in Eastern or South-Eastern Crimea? Which was founded by Anglo-Saxon and English Danes/Norse, who had enough of being ruled by the Norman French of England after 1066 and left England by a Small Fleet of Ships.
Going through the Mediterranean Sea, raiding the Balearic Islands (we English have been going to Ibiza for a LONG time!) and i think Sicily too? Before going to serve in the Varangian Guard of the Byzantine Emperors, even fighting the Norman French either in Sicily or Mainland Italy (and losing to them again there too).
These Anglo-Saxon/Norse Varangian Guards were eventually rewarded for their long service, by being given land to settle within Crimea . . . with a catch? That they had to first drive off the Muslim Tartars, who were already there, which they did.
Founding Settlements such as “New London” and other places, named after their old home towns from back home in England. According to all these sources, they were there for several Hundred Years, up to even past the 1300’s and still speaking Old English.
They disappeared later on, either by getting absorbed into the Crimean Goths or by being defeated by the Tartars (Wiped Out or being Sold into Slavery?).
This could just be all just be based upon Folk Tales but according to these sources, the Byzantine’s did go visit them over the years to see them and they did document their visits there.
I don’t know whether you ever came across these stories or not? But this story is worth looking into too, if only because it also involved the Old English of Norse/Danish Viking blood too?
@@Excommunicated-ei1ep Thanks. I'll keep a look out
@@VikingStories
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We read about the viking dna
" Let it be clear to all that the ancients called them with awe chosen Getae , the writers called them later , by unanimous agreement , the Goths . ...write " Carolus Lundius , President of the Swedish Academy of Upsala in 1687 in in his book "Zamolxis , primus Getarum legislator ". Zamolxis is the Getic-Dacians God . Ancient Dacia=Romania. The Getae and the Dacians, our ancestors. In the book it is written who are the ancestors of the viking Swedes, where they migrated from, their writing, etc..They bear multiple names, misleading historians from various times.. In English.
The actor doesn't even look germanic tho his acting was decent enough. When I think of germanic tribes I think of blond blue eyed europeans. I'm a major history buff and so it was a little odd to see a person who looked Italian or Spanish play the role of German.
The germanic tribes migrated and settled in England, Scandinavia, France, Spain, Italy, alot of place where they mixed with local populations to form a different cultural identity.
The show is incredible nonetheless, I would have loved to see Augustus and maybe Tiberius. The girl in the show looked the part and acting was decent. Though I like the last kingdom alot more since they are much more accurate in their portrayal of people at the time. Overall a decent show however the real story is incredible, the romans basically treated these tribes as uncivilized animals which shows how incredibly selfish human nature is.
Ubii here! Joke... that tribe is lost in history of course.Bit they were the people who lived here, where i live today.
Did a lot of work to figure out how they lived, what they looked like, how they dressed and what their religious views were like.