Distance doesn't really matter when youre talking about lead. Don't ever listen to someone who will tell you in feet and inches. You just need to build your own lead picture in your mind - whats a little, some, or alot. Focus on if the target is quartering in, quartering out, or crossing. Quartering birds don't require very much lead - usually somewhere between a little and some. Crossers usually require alot. You need to learn for yourself what a little, some, or alot is. And... chokes don't matter, unless youre hunting. You can hit anything with a cylinder or skeet choke. If you missed, it's because you put the pellets in the wrong spot.
@@sillystupidusername1 I disagree with the lead but agree with the chokes, I shoot the same with an ic and mod than with an ic and skeet. Ed Solomon also proved that the skeet choke was sufficient up to 60+ yards.
What do you mean don’t listen to anyone 🤦🏻♂️, there’s your proof there’s your baseline. An idea of where you need to be. Another thing I laugh at is “ALWAYS follow through or you’ll miss” that won’t matter if you do or don’t if you shoot and are behind your target there’s no way that a follow through will pull the shot from behind the target and make a hit. You have to be out in front of it for it to work
The quickest way to learn lead is actually simple. By placing 1 finger width to side of the barrel equals about 1 foot at 22 yards. 2 fingers/2 foot, 3 fingers/3 foot, 4 fingers/4 foot. Basic knowledge if you start shooting skeet.
Guys, this is not the whole truth. The shot angle, clay velocity, and bullet velocity are major variables in this equation. And, they can change each time you shoot. If you really want to know your lead, then get there and practice. If you cant go shoot, then bust out your protractor and do some trig.
The ShotKam Camera Can be adjusted at home, using a smart phone or laptop. The empty gun is focused on a fixed target, approximately 30 yards away. ShotKam app allows the user to select a single red dot or the crosshairs and adjust these to the point of aim. I received a ShotKam last year from my family for Christmas, purchased on Amazon during the Black Friday sales event. It is a wonderful tool for the Clay shooter or Hunter!
Having said that I see on closer inspection they are using the sustained lead method, ok on some clay targets but not really practical in the field, not a method I would recommend getting into.
Speed of clay certainly does make a difference to the lead picture to hit it, as the speed of SG pellets can *generally* be assumed to be constant. It therefore takes longer to meet the clay at greater distance, so you have to increase lead to compensate for the time to reach it. Shot string widens this tolerance, but sufficient shot needs to impact the clay where energy falls away (e.g.275m is the recognised 'safe' distance if directly pointing and shooting a shotgun at a person, with a 28g load and max. shot size 6). Increased *speed* of clay also increases necessary lead for precisely the same reason. The video merely offers a starting ballpark if you're trying to find the clay, but you'll never get far by always 'measuring'. The correct technique is to keep your eye locked on the leading edge of the clay (not the bead), apply lead, and shoot when it 'feels' right whilst keeping the gun moving and cheek planted on the stock. This trains the subconscious that can typically perform the same subjective calculations in 5ms that would take the conscious (thinking) part of the brain to achieve in 200-400ms. No contest...
@@sillystupidusername1 that may or maybe not true, I don't know I'm not a ballistics expert. However it doesn't alter the fact that a high velocity load is going to reach the target quicker than a lower velocity load.
I had no idea I needed that much lead at 40 yards. No wonder I’m missing at that distance. 😮 thanks for the video
Also consider the shell size he is most likely using 2¾ and not 3½
Please post more of these. Simply wonderful.
this is I want to learn .this type of vids realy give me knowledge.
These are so helpful. They really making me wanna buy a cam
WOW, targets at different distances if one of my biggest challenges. Thanks
This is what I was looking for.
Distance doesn't really matter when youre talking about lead. Don't ever listen to someone who will tell you in feet and inches.
You just need to build your own lead picture in your mind - whats a little, some, or alot.
Focus on if the target is quartering in, quartering out, or crossing.
Quartering birds don't require very much lead - usually somewhere between a little and some.
Crossers usually require alot.
You need to learn for yourself what a little, some, or alot is.
And... chokes don't matter, unless youre hunting. You can hit anything with a cylinder or skeet choke. If you missed, it's because you put the pellets in the wrong spot.
Totally agreed
Mixed with skeet choke, anything up to 50 yards usually you’re good, I’ve shot some at 60 and I switched my skeet to a mod.
@@sillystupidusername1 I disagree with the lead but agree with the chokes, I shoot the same with an ic and mod than with an ic and skeet. Ed Solomon also proved that the skeet choke was sufficient up to 60+ yards.
What do you mean don’t listen to anyone 🤦🏻♂️, there’s your proof there’s your baseline. An idea of where you need to be. Another thing I laugh at is “ALWAYS follow through or you’ll miss” that won’t matter if you do or don’t if you shoot and are behind your target there’s no way that a follow through will pull the shot from behind the target and make a hit. You have to be out in front of it for it to work
@@justinferguson5451 I said don’t listen to people who tell you lead in feet and inches. That’s the words of my former coach, a world champion.
The quickest way to learn lead is actually simple. By placing 1 finger width to side of the barrel equals about 1 foot at 22 yards. 2 fingers/2 foot, 3 fingers/3 foot, 4 fingers/4 foot. Basic knowledge if you start shooting skeet.
No wonder I miss behind so much. Never realized I needed that much lead.
Brill, What Carts and chokes are you using?
How is the lead measured in this video?
you can tell from the diameter of the clay
How fast is the claypigeon moving?
will be nice to know cartodges & grains
I’ve been over leading them
Guys, this is not the whole truth. The shot angle, clay velocity, and bullet velocity are major variables in this equation. And, they can change each time you shoot. If you really want to know your lead, then get there and practice. If you cant go shoot, then bust out your protractor and do some trig.
Can you make a meter version for your non American clients ?
No
Can anyone tell that how to put this plus sign in middle of screen .
The ShotKam Camera Can be adjusted at home, using a smart phone or laptop. The empty gun is focused on a fixed target, approximately 30 yards away. ShotKam app allows the user to select a single red dot or the crosshairs and adjust these to the point of aim.
I received a ShotKam last year from my family for Christmas, purchased on Amazon during the Black Friday sales event. It is a wonderful tool for the Clay shooter or Hunter!
You'd rather need this plus sign in the point where your gun hits than in the middle of the screen.
So speed of clay doesn't make a difference it's only distance
Not only the speed of target but also the speed of your swing, even the speed of the cartridge all have a bearing. The video is nonsense.
Having said that I see on closer inspection they are using the sustained lead method, ok on some clay targets but not really practical in the field, not a method I would recommend getting into.
Speed , Angle, distance determines lead nothing else
Speed of clay certainly does make a difference to the lead picture to hit it, as the speed of SG pellets can *generally* be assumed to be constant. It therefore takes longer to meet the clay at greater distance, so you have to increase lead to compensate for the time to reach it. Shot string widens this tolerance, but sufficient shot needs to impact the clay where energy falls away (e.g.275m is the recognised 'safe' distance if directly pointing and shooting a shotgun at a person, with a 28g load and max. shot size 6).
Increased *speed* of clay also increases necessary lead for precisely the same reason.
The video merely offers a starting ballpark if you're trying to find the clay, but you'll never get far by always 'measuring'. The correct technique is to keep your eye locked on the leading edge of the clay (not the bead), apply lead, and shoot when it 'feels' right whilst keeping the gun moving and cheek planted on the stock.
This trains the subconscious that can typically perform the same subjective calculations in 5ms that would take the conscious (thinking) part of the brain to achieve in 200-400ms. No contest...
@@sillystupidusername1 that may or maybe not true, I don't know I'm not a ballistics expert. However it doesn't alter the fact that a high velocity load is going to reach the target quicker than a lower velocity load.