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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- This 666hp, carbon tubbed, hydraulically steered 675LT makes just about every other car I've driven, including the Ferrari 458 and Porsche 911 GT3, feel like child's play.
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in honor of McLaren winning P1 and P2 in todays Grand Prix, I'm watching this as soon as I finish the race
for about 250k bucks, 675lt offers a lot. best looking modern McLaren other than p1 imho, limited production, incredible performance, ...
Agreed on all points
But the maintenance is still very expensive, as for 400k+ car, especially if you damage some CF panels, splitters or any other mechanical component. But otherwise it is very special car from performance and handling perspective.
@@salvissmudo4496still a lot cheaper to own then a Ferrari
@salvissmudo4496 if you're crashing there are other things to worry about. Service wise and mechanically a lot it is common with normal cars
I’ve driven every super car, finally got to drive one of these last summer and I can honestly say I’ve never driven a better supercar or sports car. The connection to the-road is better than anything I’ve ever driven.
Same here and I fully agree, McLaren 600 and 675LT has feel and feedback unlike anything I've ever driven! You truly feel like one with the car.
“I’ve driven every super car…”F40?, F50?, F1?, Veyron?, Senna? P1?, T.50? any Pagani?
@@overbuiltlimited sorry I meant every modern supercar, but have definitely driven quite a few older supercars as well.
You always give really insightful feedback on these cars. Really interested in this one.
Awesome review! As a 675LT owner, I appreciate everything you said about the car (yes star of the show is definitely the chassis). Did you notice the “gunshot” sound while up shifting in sports drivetrain mode?
Other commenters have noted the reliability issues with McLaren. IMO it’s definitely not as reliable as Porsche GT cars (I’ve had zero issues with my 991 and 992 GT3s and RS), and you have to allocate 7-10K a year for extended warranty, maintenance etc.
Even with the reliability concerns, my LT is the last car I’ll sell out of my collection. It’s really special and a LOT of car for the price.
@@david_from_to the owner was trying to have me replicate the gun shot shifts but it just want happening for me. Idk why.
@@Zygrene usually happens when I’m up shifting earlier at around 5k rpm under 50-75% throttle. That’s my driving style on the street otherwise I’ll get arrested 🤣
@@Zygrenethe reason you weren’t getting the “gunshots” from the exhaust is because it looks like you had the power train in “track” and you only get the in “sport” between 5k and 6k RPM when the vehicle is at anywhere from like 50-80% throttle. It’s a shame he didn’t know that was the correct setting because that really adds to the experience more than you can imagine. Also, this car is really best in Spider form because it’s even more visceral, and unlike virtually every single other convertible, you give absolutely nothing up in terms of chassis dynamics because the tub stiffness is identical to the coupe. This will undoubtedly go down as one of the greatest drivers cars ever made and both my friend and I have noticed that it’s amazing that so many people we’ve met with an impressive car collections has a 675LT in it and they usually always remark on what an incredible car it is and that they will never sell it
what do u do?
@@jameswillard1 what do u do?
You can tell from the road cars McLaren is a race team. You should try a 600 LT, it's like a huracan performante esque stripped out super car
I drove a 600LT and it was ridiculously fast. It wasn’t incremental over other cars I’ve driven, it was a massive step. Think of the difference between a Toyota Corolla and a 991 Carrera; it’s the same step going from the Carrera to the 600LT in terms of rawness, speed, feel, experience. I want one, but I’m not rich enough to deal with the running costs
Oh man. It’s only a matter of time until you get into a 720 or 750. The balance of sheer performance and supple ride quality of those cars is truly biblical. Most impressive car I’ve ever been in. Keep up the great content Fenton
@@bk_nreynolds3278 I drove a 750S a couple weeks after this was filmed. Take a look at my ZPI linked in description lol.
@@Zygreneoh okay just checked it out. The cars are so impressive. Someone local to me has both a 750 and 620r and I’ve ridden in both and they’re just insane cars. Crazy how competent the 750 is on poor tarmac
How is the driving experience compared to the current generation NSX?
Not the same as the experience of a 675
McLaren LT cars are the modern era Ferrari F40! The 600LT feels very similar to the 675LT but even more raw steering and chassi feedback as well as flames shooting up in your rear view mirror! No other cars I've driven comes close in feedback and tactility. 997 GT3 steering has less feel and like you say much slower rack, I agree the McLaren steering ratio is perfect, as is the ergonomics of the seating position and steering wheel, pedal placement etc! 750S is basically a 765LT with less aero and slightly better comfort, best supercar you can buy today if you love to drive and feel as one with the car!
Change of scenery from the dry East Bay to the lush SCM! :-D
Which of these cars have the loudest intake/engine sound in the cabin: GT4, 991.2 GT3, 675LT or 458?
After years of owning turbo cars then going to a GT3 I will never go back instant throttle over lag any day...only if McLaren built an high revving N A motor id be the 1st to jump on it
well they did do th esolus, i just wish they would put it in something street legal
I also love NA motors and wish the McLaren had one, but I promise after you try a McLaren LT any modern Porsche GT car will feels like a fast VW golf... I love Porsche and have owned several but steering, brakes, chassi feedback etc feels like a road car, the McLaren LT cars feels completely(!) different and much more like a race car but without any real compromise in comfort. Having owned a 997 GT3 and driven a 992 GT3 back to back with a 600LT on road and track the difference is huge, its like the Porsche steering, brakes and chassi feedback gets a 5/10 and the McLaren is a 9/10, any normal car is a 1/10 the difference is that big.
best car I've ever owned period end of story.
what do u do?
@@KuostAHe lies💯
The 675LT is a very special McLaren. It's known for being reliable with a solid build quality, it was created at a time when McLaren was profitable and flush with cash. They have since been trying to crawl their way back. To date this is the only Mac I would buy and I own several Exotics.
Interesting coincidence.
McLaren just won Hungarian Grand Prix. Oscar Piastri is the winner and Lando Norris 2nd.
Nice review. Youre on my backroad now on this side of the Bay. That drive all the way down to big basin is awesome. The issue with McLarens and why they depreciate so quickly is the maintenance and cost of ownership.
675LT is so underrated. Why do I never see them
So jealous you got to drive this! It's my dream car
S2k Vtec reaction video please with that cute girl
This car looks good on you. It suits you. You should have one.
I wish you good fortune!
Great review Fenton, I am really drawn to driving one now and experiencing the steering feel and chassis you talk about. Would love to see you drive a 12C or 650S next, how will the driving experience scale while being 1/3rd to 1/2 the price.
good work as always & I see tons of typical keyboard warriors whining on the reliability etc. It's a car, when it's broken get it fixed. I drove this car 700 miles in limp mode & it obviously survived 🤷♀
You mentioned a few times the carbon ceramics require more brake pressure. I felt similar on my GT4 (first car with carbon ceramics). Do you know if that’s “normal” for carbon ceramics?
Nice car! Funny how the engine sounds like you're going quicker than the road coming at you through the windshield. Guess you have to be there ;-)
Buying this exact car, I hope you didn’t beat on it too much
Dream car. But from all the horror stories and issues people have with them, along with repairs taking months, I don't know if you could have one even as your weekend car against a GT3 for example... But it drives like a Lotus supercar. What could even compete with that?
You can get most of the experience at 1/3 the cost in a well optioned MP4-12C, I think that as the 675LT prices go up the 650S and MP4-12C will have their day too.
An MP4 is great value and a very nice GT car but feels completely different to an LT, its like comparing a pre-production Porsche Turbo with a GT3R Race car tuned for the street (with full interior and comfort).
No joke, this car in Spyder form is my dream car. I prefer it over 720/750.
I never seen this car driven past 70mph on the highway, almost every one of them on the road is driven like a Camry.
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As a non-675LT owner..
I need one!😅
Same
Engine sound leaves something to be desired
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600lt vs this is what I need
They are very similar, acceleration is identical despite the difference in model numbers, 600LT has even more raw steering and chassi feedback + flames in the rear view mirror from the vertical exhaust :D Air brake on the 675 is very cool though and the cross linked hydraulic suspension has a wider span of comfort and stiffness. Both epic cars!
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Good until you need to maintain it. Hope once mclaren will do a reliable not "falling apart" car.
The regular transmission faliure, the cracking windshield, the falling apart interior, is just not acceptable. When they would be able to fix all these mechanical issues, mclaren would haveone one of the best cars out there.
Most of these probably rarely get driven. They are in collections sitting in warehouses. Not built to be driven alot of miles.
Pretty much none of what you described applies to a 675LT. This was probably the most robust car McLaren ever made, and the one I drove had zero squeaks or rattles after eight years and only had scheduled maintenance done. The cracking windshields was a supplier issue that was only on early 600LT’s and the gorilla glass on the 720S roof panels, never a 675 issue. The transmission is a Graziano unit that’s also in the Ferrari 458 and Mercedes SLS, so make sure you complain about those cars as well
You have no clue what you talk about. 675LT is extreme quality. As good as any other supercar from that year.
I have been looking hard at McLarens, seem to offer a lot of performance and driving enjoyment at a huge value point when you compare to other cars like Porsche and what’s available at same price (e.g. 991 GT3). I already have a nice 991 T, and I feel something like a McLaren offers more variety and extreme fun compared to getting another 911. Anyways, excited to see this pop up in my feed as I’m literally lying in bed looking at them on Autotrader lol
@@joeracer302 ah yes, nothing like waking up on a Sunday morning pondering how best to spend $250k
@@Zygrene I just enjoy really bad financial decisions
I have a 992 GT3 and 2020 600LT, both are heavily tracked, I prefer the 600LT both on track and on road… no reliability issues either so far in 6k track and road miles. It renders my GT3 useless in all applications besides, it might hold its value better.
what do u do?
@@KuostA dude you aren't going to make money by asking what OTHER people like to do. Ask yourself what YOU like to do and how you might be able to make that into a career. Don't start a job for the money, you will suck at it. Do something you want to do and success will come after years of hard work and dedication.
What a coup getting this car (and that ‘dated’ center console looks better than the one in the 720, smaller and cleaner, plus love the big analogue center rev counter).
v8 doesnt sound all that good, rather have less weight by a gemera 2 liter inline 3 ...
So you are saying this a Lotus Evora GT on steroids? Too late to do a comparison video now though ...
The LT are special cars but drive a 991 GT3 RS and then see what you think.
Incredible content. I've never driven a McLaren but someday I will own one.
Ain’t no Miata tho
@@gibsonisthename McLaren is always the answer??
he did say it does have a bit of body roll even in these turns he was at. so its probably pretty close to being as good besides the costs and emissions
Great review.
did the transmission detract from the "fun" factor? prefer MANuals myself
@@davej1212 I would absolutely not want to row my own gears in this car. It would cripple its performance.
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I subscribed for the jdm content but this is a very special car
Great review,agree with many of the points. Test drove a 750s yesterday, and confirmed my expectation that with McLarens it’s never the car itself that’s bad, it’s the lack of Indy support, DIY unfriendliness and insane high depreciation and the cliche reliability reputation. If I buy it new or pay 7k extended warranty every year for a used one will remove some of the hesitations here, but who wants to lose 100k in a couple of years owning one. They r very hard to sell as well. But fantastic car in driving experience, comfortable planted amazing steering and good power, but I gotta disagree that it feels special when driving slow. Its exterior design while striking isn’t really beautiful, the interior is extremely bland and boring and the digital gauge feels small and digital. The engine also lacks character, even the 675lt here sounds monotone and it’s supposedly the special model. They don’t sound bad but they don’t sound unique or recognizable other than the turbo swoosh. The 458,s timeless exterior design and stylized interior pair with the engine sound makes it more special when slow (def not the best handling car in comparison), the lambos have iconic wedge shapes and loud NA engines making it audibly clear whether u are driving a v10 or v12, and while the gt3rs has a harsh ride and is boring when driving slow, that 9k scream and the whole car just feels Motorsport..try a scud too, it feels primitive and is special even at 30 mph. But when a 720s is below 200k, it’s a lot of car for the money and pple can start to look past the maintenance and reliability hurdles, but the issue is it will be a 150k car in no time and that really keeps long term owners like me from buying one. I own the above mentioned cars for many years and the 750s is super impressive, just needs a bit more specialness, we r not buying cars just to get time attack records in the canyons
what do u do?
Waiting for that 750S review.
McLaren. Enough said.
Performance and capability wise, better than the 458 sure. But what about fun to drive and the drama? How does the McLaren versus the Ferrari feel?
@@93B18 the only areas where the 458 wins are engine response/sound, and willingness to oversteer on throttle if that's your thing.
I haven’t been able to drive any Mclarens since the 12C, which I didn’t really like. I think that can be seen as the “pilot” version of all these newer gen models, and it sounds like they are all much better than the 12C.
Hope you get to try the 700 series cars soon.
The newer cars are much better calibrated and the LT cars feels like race cars for the road with a lot of the race car feel but still good comfort.
Highway 9 this time! Good stuff
That thumbnail is perfection ❤
You must try the 765LT next!
Got so much respect for McLaren's dedication to the analog experience, but kind of a shame about the turbo sound. I think it's just short of perfection because of that IMO.
what about the turbo sound?
almost as rigid as a Honda Fit :)
great car until it breaks
This would be a dream car if not for the McLaren reliability issues. Great review as always.
Plenty of local dealers too if u need service! /s
another commentor who has never owned one and just listens to the peanut comments and repeats them.
best motoring shirt ftw!
Awesome review Fenton!😊 Man what a car.
I’ve done a lot of miles in a Senna and a P1, 675 feels like a Civic in comparison. Hope you can get your hands on the crazier stuff to compare.
did u own them, or how?
Said no one ever.. I'd argue the 600LT and 675LT are the better road cars compared to the Senna. And give you probably 60% of the experience of a P1. Keep in mind the price difference.
997 GT2 now similar money. Which do you like v 675?
I love the 997 GT2 but the 675 is better to drive in every way
We need you to test a 997 GT2RS now, the “regular” 997 GT2 doesn’t stand a chance.
That's a really cool experience.
Cars u need to drive
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Happily taking offers from owners
Might as well add a CGT, and a Zonda Cinque too lol.
Glad you liked it! Are you going to get one? Haha
I already got one. In my dreams last night
@@Zygrene haha just buy it off of mr 750s :P
The car was thoroughly tested years ago, and it has some serious problems.
But the driving experience ain’t one of them.
Such as? It’s one of the better built Mclarens with better steering, gear changes, seat position and less weight than any rival. Not to mention a superior carbon tub and P1 suspension.
@@willryan5508 MAJOR quality issues that are too hard to overlook. Never even heard of any of them reaching over 50k miles without a myriad of problems.
Yea I heard the 675LT is highly regarded in the McLaren line up and holds its value
Heard is the important word. Obviously, you are not an owner. All supercars cost money to maintain.@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
I love the chassis, but hate the engine.
Two things it needs:
1) a good manual
2) the gt3’s NA flat 6
That would be perfection.
Great car. You know you just don’t have the same comfort level tracking the car. Some owners that have McLaren also have a Porsche 911. Guess which one they take to the track. Hint: it isn’t the McLaren. McLaren requires you to get a track inspection at one of their approved dealers prior to track work or the deny warranty. What ? 😀. How is a car that is supposed to be a supercar not trackable without McLaren’s approval or they deny warranty. That is how much faith they have in their cars. Great cars for back end roads, canyons, occasional days at the track with approved dealer inspection of course. It’s essentially a Ferrari like shiny object to admire but not really drive the way it was meant to be driven. I have not even mentioned the inconsistency in some cars have major problems and others don’t. Garage queen it is.
For someone that will never track, it is the perfect cars. For someone that wants to push the envelope and extract the performance at a race course I’m not so sure
What do I think? It's a nice enough car but it's not an SUV so what's the point?
Its nice, but it sure as hell ain’t no BMW XM///
I like your reviews but don’t quite understand why you feel the need to compare it to other cars rather than just explaining what you like or don’t like about this car. I wish more people could just enjoy things without the need for comparison.
@@carguy7627 I enjoy comparisons because they provide perspective. When I describe how a specific aspect of one car (steering, engine, etc) compares to another, it increases the chances that someone watching can relate even if they haven't driven the car I'm reviewing.
Like and dislike are inseparable from comparison, though. I think when it comes to car reviews, beyond entertainment factor, it depends mostly on whether your priorities and values are aligned with those of the reviewer. Inasmuch as those are subjective, sure, comparison has it's limits (e.g. some prefer turbo power to NA response, some like a competent car, some an exciting one, neither may be "better", it depends what you want).
Prospective buyers can use a reviewer's comparisons to help guide their decision making process, based on what they like or not, and what differences they observe between other cars.
Excellent review, interested in your comparison to a 750/765lt. Also have you driven a Pista? That might have similarly good steering feel with better throttle response also.