Legends! On Monday, June 3rd we will be releasing an update with a bunch of balance changes for Carriers and bug fixes. Please read through the balance changes in this article: English: wowsl.co/3R7jt2j Deutsch: wowsl.co/3R7wmcE Français: wowsl.co/3R3KvYo 日本語: wowsl.co/3R9bKk2 Русский: wowsl.co/3VorfXO Español (México): wowsl.co/3yRuC0D Português (Brasil): wowsl.co/3VloMgZ 한국어: wowsl.co/4aQNBpK 简体中文: wowsl.co/3X4R0hg 繁體中文: wowsl.co/3KmtYLp
What you mean to say you fetid garbage peddlers is you’ll be screwing over any players who don’t spend at least 150-300$ per month on our pixelated ships that we’d never screw the algorithm up just to make a point to you on .
@@human4559 More a case of "Heck, that destroyer can stay unspotted and sit in smoke, not sure where he's headed and he'll pick us all off .. hey CV ..go find him or we're all dead" .. not any more. They're trying to turn every DD into a Kamakaze. :( Seriously unbalance the game.
I think this is good but at the same time the Fuel consumes waaaay to fast cant even drop all the bombs of my squads even when trying to get close to the enemy If its going to be like this at least we sould launch only one squad per attack not all of them
it’s terrible that the carriers can’t see the lines the torpedos make while traversing the waters. There are matches where there’s 1-2 cruisers and sometimes they don’t even bring radar or sonar, and even if they do and they get taken out the battleships are completely blind during the match, so now if a destroyer wants to be invisible the whole match, they can. Watch it now matches with 3-5 destroyers on both sides, so terribly frustrating.
Need to add spotting assist damage Indicators. Would help new and old players. Understand their spotting range and playing passive spotting roles as a destroyer and Cruisers.
Pretty much. Carriers must advance to take advantage of their attack ranges. But of course, what’s going to happen when they’re spotted? The entire red team goes full Eye of Sauron and tries to nuke the carrier.
@ILikeTanks Well, love ‘em or hate ‘em, it doesn’t change the fact that these vessels eclipsed the battleships as the flagships of the Navy. Them coming to the game was supposed to balance the destroyers who could be super stealthy. Now that balance has been disrupted somewhat
You’re talking about the secondary meme thing? For some reason I figured they weren’t going to touch that issue. Sure wish they would have buffed the secondaries though, or given the carrier player manual control over them.
Please add more animations for the anti-aircraft defenses, it's great to stand in first person and see the details of the secondary battery firing and the AA turrets moving.
DD people want an easy ride. Take those wonderful DD's with 12-15km torpes. Very little chance of being spotted unless there's a carrier around and that's hard enough. Oh! Lets nerf the carriers.
So wg had a good idea, this enhances teamwork... nice nice... BUT NO ONE SPEACK IN THE MIC! Even if they have the mic of they don't talk, u can only hear theyre parents make noise of talking... in whatever language.
Don’t think I have ever used my mic in game and I’ve been playing on and off since early access. If I’m playing with friends they are all PlayStation so we use party chat instead
its a stupid to get rid of it . the just want to have DD's to be overpowered again carriers are the only thing that keep the game balanced or else youd have people sitting out on the edge torpin the middle
@@bumpydevoshire1067Exactly, no there is absolutely no hard Intel on DDs and their Torps. Gonna be real annoying now since it's already difficult to get a good Cruiser player to DD hunt or even get gun build DD such as a Gearing to do their jobs, if they are even alive by that point.
Invisible destroyers now, perfect balance to go now against ghost ships. Imagine going against all those quick reloading spamming destroyers while they sit there sending you showers of torpedos without breaking a sweat
I agree the idea of planes not spotting torpedoes is ridiculous. They were the first line of torpedoes detection in WW2. I could understand perhaps deep water torpedoes being harder to spot. Tell me now how stealthy torpedo strike are not a prelude for submarines.
Well, they DID say this update is mainly a work in progress and changes may be made. Who knows, hopefully the restore planes spotting torpedoes if enough people mention it.
Bravo. This is the best news we could have gotten and this will ensure this game’s longevity. Shout out to the CC’s (like Xarkun), who have suggested a rework like this.
This feels more like a buff to DDs and heavy AA BB's. Not being able to Spot destroyers at any point for others is a massive thing. And reducing the TP this drastically makes Attacking sometimes not possible. Imagine playing kaga against the iowas, jean barts etc. You get absolutely destroyed already but then? Clear Skies for literally everyone
I was wandering can we just used elite xp instead of using global xp? It's a pain in the butt to buy doubloons when I can just used doubloons for buying promotion orders and other stuff. Just a thought.
Before this update, there was no problem with the game, with the new update, the aircraft carriers have become ridiculously strong, the game is out of balance and you can't do anything against the aircraft carrier, whichever team had the better aircraft carrier actually won the game, please play return it to the state before this update, because there is no joy in being destroyed in front of a carrier that is constantly attacking you, me and all my friends in this game hate and are unhappy with the new update, because it ruined our favorite game has done, otherwise we will have to play a lot less or give it up, please forward all my message to the game development team
I feel the same about DD's dev striking you without any defense. Limit the number of torpedoes that a DD can carry. Please forward all my message to the game development team
Hey how come the Hakuryu and Midway have been removed from the shop? Idk if it’s just on Xbox but they’re nowhere to be seen. There’s not even the aforementioned “renting” option for them. Only the Graf Zeppelin and Zuiho are rentable and they’re not even legendary tier ships like the Hakuryu and Midway.
So , they generally buffed CV,s damage output, specially towards BB,s and Cruisers , but decided to remove one of the core traits of Carriers?? Being the best counter to DD,s? Being able to chase them down and keep them spotted for the team to actively fire at? Along with spotting the torps for the entire team?? Nah one or the other WG , massive shift of balance in favor of DD,s
The no more torp spotting is my one disagreement. CVs are supposed to be more of a support, that ability lends the CV to be support. Now with faster restoration, and no torp spot, this moves the CVs to be more offensive than support. CVs should be able to spot torps!
As a CV player I hate these upgrades. Apparently Wargaming doesn't understand carrier operations and are forcing us to go to the front like a DD or BB with the fuel mechanic. This is bad because of our low speed, less armor and no main battery that can be controlled by the player. We're sitting ducks on the front lines. Then they reduced the damage on all our bombs and torpedoes which means we'll have to do more strikes closer to the front. Our weapons already did minimum damage now they're doing less?!
@@ISAFMobius18 I'm a beast with my HMS Hawkins and I heard there would be a free British commander coming out on this new update for anyone with Leander and Hawkins upwards.
@@dingolightfoot8823 no there's no new British commander coming out this update. Not sure where you heard that. The only new commander this update is the Dutch Commander for the new Dutch Cruiser
@@ISAFMobius18 oh damn. I'll just have to play it by ear and not believe others lol. I hope the whole Dutch nation is coming and not just the one ship.
A game-destroying patch. Who in their fucking minds thought the CV rework was a job well done - or even required? Even monkies could have done better balance adjustements. Won't be playing the game or spending money until patched.
All the CV mains tears in the comments bc they can't bully DDs anymore while sitting at the back of the map unharmed is great. Not a fan of the larger squadron size, bomb payload, or the dented robotic plane factory but ig we'll see.
Kinda weird that planes no longer spot torpedoes...to be fair, I have spotted torps leaving the tubes only to hit a ship 20 seconds later, including other DDs. Also can't an AA cruiser just sit behind an island and only be spotted for the carrier he can ignore.
@@generalfranky1905 maybe dev will give a fuck.. Tbh i hope some certain form of communications for between team. Maybe improve exsiting comm tooltip. Include more
This has got to be the worst update in a long time why are we buffing carriers. They are already the most busted class in the game. No wonder why the player count keeps dropping. This game will soon be like wot console dead with no players
Removing the detection ability of the catapult fighters and the patrol ship is the stupidest thing a human could think of. You have not even justified this choice which is useless. The hunter plane is no longer useful except for certain perks.
After a fee days of testing it, it seems to me that playing carrier became easier, while it hasn't become that easier to shoot down planes. Also 40 planes for clear sky is a bit too high threshold. I personally don't like this update because it favours the class that actually has nothing to do with positioning. Can we have a separate play mode without carriers?
First thing I’m curious about. Since planes are losing the engine cooldown, what’s replacing it? At Tier 3 it’s the only consumable planes have. Second, when something is mentioned ‘to come’ does that mean a new carrier like Germany’s Erich Lowenhardt or France’s Béarn, or the return of one from previous events such as Independence or Ark Royal? EDIT: Got to thinking about the consumables. Why not give carrier planes a ‘War Emergency Power or WEP’ consumable? Boosts aircraft speed by a further 10% for fifteen seconds. Or perhaps a ‘Fighter Escort’ that functions like a CAP but follows the bomber squadron around and protects it from enemy carrier fighters and ship-launched fighters?
Make it easy for carriers players. What a great idea. CVS went from irrelevant to broken. Trying so hard not to quit this game after 5 years but this update blows
175s restoration time welp guessing that cv wont be doing anything and its the only one not to get its bombs buffed and actually had its torpedo dpm nerfed
We have increased the amount of restored aircraft for each restoration cycle, as well as the amount of aircraft in a squadron for most carriers, which results in faster restoration times than before in most cases.
Think everything is good for the CV rework except the spotting it’s already hard to spot DDs as anything but a CV and now it’s like impossible lol my games where like everything but 3 ships are DDs is gonna be every single game
Then play DD or a radar cruiser. Lmao. "I can't be braindead and spot ships with muh planes bc easy spots." Tell you're clueless on game fundamentals without telling me you're clueless on game fundamentals. CVs perma spotting broke game fundamentals which is positioning which detection is required to do that. CVs now actually have to use their brains instead of being some zombie playing brainlessly to spot.
@@godzillaiv2096 Calm down man lol we each allowed to have our own opinion lol. I don't agree with the spotting only appearing on the mini map that it my dude. I think they should be shown like how any normal ship would spot lol, and once you get far enough away, they become undetected lol. Ain't no reason to go spout nonsense.
@@calebhequembourg2479 Do you understand how broken that makes that class? Fundamentals isn't nonsense. Lmao. DDs need to use detect to grab caps, contest caps, spot, ect. DDs can't do that when a CV can keep them spotted the entire time allowing the entire team to shoot them. Using detect allows positioning and having a CV perma spotting ruins detect therefore ruins positioning which therefore breaks a huge fundamental of the game.
@@godzillaiv2096 maybe in your opinion but I rarely have problems as a DD getting spotted by a CV. I truly that detects by CV should be spotted for the whole team and once the plane leaves the area they go back to being hidden. Either way you gotta be practically on top of a DD in a plane to spot in the 1st place. I'm not here to argue with someone I just voiced my opinion if you like it you like it, and if you dont suck it up and move on...
Can you just please put a cap on the amount of DDs allowed on each team to three if you're going to get rid of the ability for planes to spot torps. Can't wait to hop into a match with 5+ DDs now 🙄
Won't be investing in any carriers like the E, due to the nerf. I had just begun to get the hang of working the things and then they change it all up. Now down to 'least played' class.
i stopped using carriers at t7 and up because the hell of AA will leave you with no planes before the 5 minute mark even if you pre drop and are selective with your target. They were so expensive to run and you would have to perform amazingly in order to make money. Now they gave you more planes but less HP, and the AA stays the same so you’ll lose more planes now and do less damage. Brilliant
@@oysterswithcutelegs2061that having to perform crazy in every match really applies to every ship in above tier 7 I don’t play any of those ships I only collect them once I get hykiryu I’ll have every carrier aside from independence and ark royal but I’ll never use it or midway
Aircraft carriers used to be fun to play as, and to think I shot that poor aircraft carrier thinking it was a major Target that need to die fast, poor bastard was just a free kill just as I, and I thought I was lucky when those bombs didn't set a fire or do any damage.
I love playing carriers, but I really hope they fixed the glitch on Xbox where you randomly disconnect from the server via desync. I call it the Code 11 glitch. I haven't been able to play carriets since they came out so I really hope they fixed the connection issue....
@armouredreaper9050 I know quite a few people who have the same issue on Legends as I do. Its only an Xbox glitch, but it all started 2 or 3 updates after they added carriers. It mostly happens with carriers, but I also get the code 11 message while playing ships normally. I know it is not my internet because I have the best internet you can get in my area and I'm using an ethernet cable to stabilize any issues I may have.
@armouredreaper9050 It doesn't happen to everyone, but it is still an issue I want, and others want to have fixed. You play on Playstation or Xbox? Because Playstation doesn't have the issue. Only Xbox.
You are one of the mobile players, who are probably ruin so many of my matches! Oh thank you. In my opinion you should never play CV or Ranked on an mobile phone. Pls buy an Playstation or an Xbox and see the difference.
My God. It is unbelievable that the console version has the rework for CVs that everyone in PC has been asking for years. They removed the spotting while the stupid devs of the PC version refuse to do this simple change.
I think regarding Fuel, it should be raised so the distance traveled back to the carrier should also use fuel. Once it runs out of Fuel, the planes should stop what ever they are doing and drop in the water, like when a car runs out of Petrol for instance.
@@michaelkopljan578 I understand why people would want such a feature. Ya'll hate carriers, I get it. I expect no sympathy. I only ask that you lot consider that its already a pain in the ass to lose all our planes to a team half made up of impenetrable AA Cruisers and American and French battleships. Making it so that planes will just drop out the sky on the way back will at worst force carriers closer to the front than even the Devs intended, and at best will lead to your friendly carrier becoming deplaned and useless much earlier in the battle. I fear for Saipan's tiny air wing.
I’m a Captain with 20,000 battles under my belt. However, this still doesn’t solve the problem the game has when it comes to noob CV players reversing their carriers at the back of the map. Yes, the fuel capacity is a welcome adjustment which I think is duly needed, but, an actual tutorial on how to utilise CV’s before players should be allowed to use them in standard is a MUST. I think it’s time you updated your tutorials and have class specific tutorials that should be mandatory for players to play before they set sail on the 7 sea’s. I believe I speak for a lot of people when I suggest this potential and necessary implementation.
Fine. But make the HuD more editable, greater size still and translucency, and colours & boldness. Doesn’t look like it fixes the tier Vii issue of run out, half squadron dies, return. Run out, die, return… other than giving more planes. So yeh, yet to see this one. I never found time to fly around, unless it was to find a better angle and avoid AA.
lol biggest nerf in history of wows legends 🤣 no spottings of ships and torps just remove them from the game already Big nerf for russian cv bombs must skip once lol
Now every CV player Go for bbs and for the big DMG... Noone Go for spotting dds or torps... What a shame... The Main duty of CV in worldwar was spotting the enemy fleet for the big bbs, yeah also sink them but spotting was so importent... Sad to remove this main Playstyle and sry for all BBS when i cant Help you out with the dds... Legends says they still pinging, need inteletence Data!... And sry for my English lol
As if CV's didn't suck enough, now they can't even spot destroyers or torpedoes, which was about all they were good for anyway. Can't wait to grind with my Tier VII's just to be completely useless, get a pitiful amount of XP, and pay handsomely for the privilege.
Heads up, Captains! We have temporarily removed the option to rent Hakuryū and Midway due to technical reasons. There is currently no ETA that we can provide for their return to the store. It's being worked on as we speak. Meanwhile, our engineers are navigating through a storm of technical challenges-send them a lifebuoy!
AA will be more effective since the planes in squadrons will have less HP. No need to reduce HP and increase AA damage, that would be too much, especially at higher tiers where AA on most ships is fairly high anyway.
@@hellcat0142Except planes get more bombs, overall HP increase bc squadron is bigger plus those insane restoration times..that alone requires compensation in some form of a AA buff.
@@godzillaiv2096 you obviously havent read the patch notes Yes, planes get more bombs, but they also have reduced damage, penetration, and fire chance. That change was made to give a better hit chance while keeping the damage stable. The overall HP does not increase, and in many case decreases. Yes, there are more planes, but they have reduced HP which reduces the total health of the squadrons. And the reason some restoration times are fast is because in those carriers you are going to be losing your planes fast. Faster now that they have less health. Check your facts before you open your mouth.
Honestly think they should have made more nerfs, reduce the restoration rate so killing a plane actually is impactful, especially since they get more planes now
Legends! On Monday, June 3rd we will be releasing an update with a bunch of balance changes for Carriers and bug fixes.
Please read through the balance changes in this article:
English: wowsl.co/3R7jt2j
Deutsch: wowsl.co/3R7wmcE
Français: wowsl.co/3R3KvYo
日本語: wowsl.co/3R9bKk2
Русский: wowsl.co/3VorfXO
Español (México): wowsl.co/3yRuC0D
Português (Brasil): wowsl.co/3VloMgZ
한국어: wowsl.co/4aQNBpK
简体中文: wowsl.co/3X4R0hg
繁體中文: wowsl.co/3KmtYLp
What you mean to say you fetid garbage peddlers is you’ll be screwing over any players who don’t spend at least 150-300$ per month on our pixelated ships that we’d never screw the algorithm up just to make a point to you on .
Trash company ,literal fetid garbage left baking in the hot Saharan sun for fifteen years fetid garbage company and game .
Hey guys, help WG implement #hmsrodney using this hashtag on your social networks and TH-cam channels
Hey guys, help WG implement #hmsrodney using this hashtag on your social networks and TH-cam channels
Hey guys, help WG implement #hmsrodney using this hashtag on your social networks and TH-cam channels
The fuel changes a lot. Used to be sometimes the best play for a cv was to fly around spotting people until a target opens up
it is needed so no cv player sits in the edge of the map and keeps farming
@@human4559 More a case of "Heck, that destroyer can stay unspotted and sit in smoke, not sure where he's headed and he'll pick us all off .. hey CV ..go find him or we're all dead" .. not any more. They're trying to turn every DD into a Kamakaze. :( Seriously unbalance the game.
I think this is good but at the same time the Fuel consumes waaaay to fast cant even drop all the bombs of my squads even when trying
to get close to the enemy
If its going to be like this at least we sould launch only one squad per attack not all of them
From Update to Downdate
it’s terrible that the carriers can’t see the lines the torpedos make while traversing the waters. There are matches where there’s 1-2 cruisers and sometimes they don’t even bring radar or sonar, and even if they do and they get taken out the battleships are completely blind during the match, so now if a destroyer wants to be invisible the whole match, they can. Watch it now matches with 3-5 destroyers on both sides, so terribly frustrating.
Dds are cheating bastards, already being invisible and having nukes.
Need to add spotting assist damage Indicators. Would help new and old players. Understand their spotting range and playing passive spotting roles as a destroyer and Cruisers.
So you make changes requiring communication in a game where the majority of players don't communicate.... *Golf clap*
Pretty much. Carriers must advance to take advantage of their attack ranges. But of course, what’s going to happen when they’re spotted? The entire red team goes full Eye of Sauron and tries to nuke the carrier.
Mercenaries, that's what they are, it makes sense for there to be so many defeats in the game because it's more profitable for them
Good CVS should have never came they suck
@thebigsad5402 At least until something more hated comes along. The whole ‘not spotting torpedoes’ is basically making destroyers more stealthy.
@ILikeTanks Well, love ‘em or hate ‘em, it doesn’t change the fact that these vessels eclipsed the battleships as the flagships of the Navy. Them coming to the game was supposed to balance the destroyers who could be super stealthy. Now that balance has been disrupted somewhat
Wonder how many people noticed mobile using planes at the end
Me and I'm very excited
I noticed but as I’m on console and basically a carrier main, I just smiled and nodded.
Im actually looking forward to this as a CV main, gives me more incentive to be aggressive and takes off a load of worry of being deplaned
Untill u have a DD trying to kill u
@@danielmuratore"uh oh"
@@danielmuratorebro never heard of target prioritization
Doesn’t stop me from sinking CV’s😂😂🤣
How can i give my graf Zeppelin Back?
Do you mean refunding ur Graf Zeppelin?
It got a massive buff though?
Your torps now do more damage and 60 knots instead of 48.
You’re talking about the secondary meme thing? For some reason I figured they weren’t going to touch that issue.
Sure wish they would have buffed the secondaries though, or given the carrier player manual control over them.
Just sell it.
Put a ticket in and have twice the silver a tier 7 carrier is worth and they should be able to restore her
Please add more animations for the anti-aircraft defenses, it's great to stand in first person and see the details of the secondary battery firing and the AA turrets moving.
Well DD players will have an easier time operating now
You think that till us carrier mains target you shits
As if they didn't already have it easy enough.
@@jacobbradford7229 i know Carriers are annoying but one thing they can do well is apply pressure or outright kill DDs
DD people want an easy ride. Take those wonderful DD's with 12-15km torpes. Very little chance of being spotted unless there's a carrier around and that's hard enough. Oh! Lets nerf the carriers.
@@VK2FVAX i stopped playing the damn game... I'll return when they add Subs so i can help kill the game.
So wg had a good idea, this enhances teamwork... nice nice... BUT NO ONE SPEACK IN THE MIC! Even if they have the mic of they don't talk, u can only hear theyre parents make noise of talking... in whatever language.
Don’t think I have ever used my mic in game and I’ve been playing on and off since early access. If I’m playing with friends they are all PlayStation so we use party chat instead
It wouldn't even matter, this game is every man for himself
wow an actual good change that prevents carriers from forcing perma crossfires
Ngl this is a good change problem is we can no longer see torps which I'm wondering how that is possible since in ww2 planes were used for that role
its a stupid to get rid of it . the just want to have DD's to be overpowered again carriers are the only thing that keep the game balanced or else youd have people sitting out on the edge torpin the middle
@@bumpydevoshire1067Exactly, no there is absolutely no hard Intel on DDs and their Torps. Gonna be real annoying now since it's already difficult to get a good Cruiser player to DD hunt or even get gun build DD such as a Gearing to do their jobs, if they are even alive by that point.
Invisible destroyers now, perfect balance to go now against ghost ships. Imagine going against all those quick reloading spamming destroyers while they sit there sending you showers of torpedos without breaking a sweat
I agree the idea of planes not spotting torpedoes is ridiculous. They were the first line of torpedoes detection in WW2. I could understand perhaps deep water torpedoes being harder to spot. Tell me now how stealthy torpedo strike are not a prelude for submarines.
Well, they DID say this update is mainly a work in progress and changes may be made. Who knows, hopefully the restore planes spotting torpedoes if enough people mention it.
It’s been a week since I mentioned the legendary carriers being missing in the store. Is it going to be fixed yet or is it still being worked on?
After the severe nerfing, it's a waste of money. Don't bother.
Bravo. This is the best news we could have gotten and this will ensure this game’s longevity. Shout out to the CC’s (like Xarkun), who have suggested a rework like this.
DDs are already very strong and now got even stronger. Dont know how that will help
Xarkun is a damage farming DD fan boy. He's a joke
Interesting how many are liking these changes.
More like nerf than a rework imo
It's a thumbs down from me
Absolutely horrid.
Probably bc they never could adapt to carriers we are probably getting all these changed to them bc cry babies
The majority hate CV so it’s no surprise that people are liking these changes since overall there are more nerfs than buffs.
This feels more like a buff to DDs and heavy AA BB's.
Not being able to Spot destroyers at any point for others is a massive thing. And reducing the TP this drastically makes Attacking sometimes not possible. Imagine playing kaga against the iowas, jean barts etc. You get absolutely destroyed already but then? Clear Skies for literally everyone
Clear sky requirement has doubled.
I was wandering can we just used elite xp instead of using global xp? It's a pain in the butt to buy doubloons when I can just used doubloons for buying promotion orders and other stuff. Just a thought.
Are you expecting Wargaming to prioritise your gaming experience over their revenue? How cute
@@alexandrederon956 u never know unless I give it a try
Finally something interesting, but keeps subs away from this game
Yeah we dont need more invisible destroyers in the game.
We need subs in this game
@@tyrekegordon2492 We do not
@@tyrekegordon2492 subs are there on pc your more than welcome to switch, intact there is an even going on right now go check it out
Anything related to naval combat is eventually going to be added and that includes all ship classes even submarines
This is good overall, but CVs can't spot DDs for the whole team anymore
Not directly but you still let your team know it's there on the map
@@ISAFMobius18 80% of the Playerbase dont look at the minimap
The spotting mechanic seems better
you have to admit it wasn't fair to begin with . specially when most lack AA
But how many of the team would ACTUALLY target the DD after the carrier has pointed it out?
Why in the hell Zuihō is nerfed by making its torpedo bombers 50% less effective by changing torpedo drop distance 2km
The rework is cool...but there is still a problem. And that problem has the name of SAIPAN.
Ohh damn, I completely forgot that they are investigating that carrier in the bureau
SAIPAN is a mid ship you just have to be really bad at the game to complain about her
Before this update, there was no problem with the game, with the new update, the aircraft carriers have become ridiculously strong, the game is out of balance and you can't do anything against the aircraft carrier, whichever team had the better aircraft carrier actually won the game, please play return it to the state before this update, because there is no joy in being destroyed in front of a carrier that is constantly attacking you, me and all my friends in this game hate and are unhappy with the new update, because it ruined our favorite game has done, otherwise we will have to play a lot less or give it up, please forward all my message to the game development team
I feel the same about DD's dev striking you without any defense. Limit the number of torpedoes that a DD can carry. Please forward all my message to the game development team
Please tell me that plane restoration time for the kaga was a typo
Bro, i saw that too and was like they just made that damn ship op af.
Won’t be as op as you think tbh
@@calebhequembourg2479Wdym? Lmao. Kaga can throw planes at you till you die without being deplaned. Their planes are infinite. My AA is not.
Mobile phones can get this samething please
Hey how come the Hakuryu and Midway have been removed from the shop? Idk if it’s just on Xbox but they’re nowhere to be seen. There’s not even the aforementioned “renting” option for them. Only the Graf Zeppelin and Zuiho are rentable and they’re not even legendary tier ships like the Hakuryu and Midway.
Does this mean I have to re-spec my upgrades? Don't want to needlessly waste my silver😢
You already wasted it buying the carriers in the first place. I'll try them out but probably end up selling them all.
Don't touch the aircraft carriers and hope for them to make a change.
The carriers not being able to spot is absolutely stupid. The other changes are fine, but them not being able to spot for the team is a joke
Some very nice changes here. I particularly like te fact the Soviet skip bombs have to skip atleast once to arm.
So , they generally buffed CV,s damage output, specially towards BB,s and Cruisers , but decided to remove one of the core traits of Carriers?? Being the best counter to DD,s? Being able to chase them down and keep them spotted for the team to actively fire at? Along with spotting the torps for the entire team?? Nah one or the other WG , massive shift of balance in favor of DD,s
The no more torp spotting is my one disagreement. CVs are supposed to be more of a support, that ability lends the CV to be support. Now with faster restoration, and no torp spot, this moves the CVs to be more offensive than support. CVs should be able to spot torps!
What exactly does anyone think about this new update? And what do you suppose they mean at the end of the video about "horizons"?
As a CV player I hate these upgrades. Apparently Wargaming doesn't understand carrier operations and are forcing us to go to the front like a DD or BB with the fuel mechanic. This is bad because of our low speed, less armor and no main battery that can be controlled by the player. We're sitting ducks on the front lines. Then they reduced the damage on all our bombs and torpedoes which means we'll have to do more strikes closer to the front. Our weapons already did minimum damage now they're doing less?!
@@joeclaridy Can't agree more strongly. Honestly.. find another class of ship to play. I just gave up.
But what about aircraft carriers for mobile version?? No one seems to be answering any of my questions when I ask?
That's cause there's no information to answer your question with. You just have to wait and see
@@ISAFMobius18 thanks for actually replying and telling me what's up
@@ISAFMobius18 I'm a beast with my HMS Hawkins and I heard there would be a free British commander coming out on this new update for anyone with Leander and Hawkins upwards.
@@dingolightfoot8823 no there's no new British commander coming out this update. Not sure where you heard that. The only new commander this update is the Dutch Commander for the new Dutch Cruiser
@@ISAFMobius18 oh damn. I'll just have to play it by ear and not believe others lol. I hope the whole Dutch nation is coming and not just the one ship.
Spotting destroyers is useless now if you team can't shoot at them when you spot them
Loved the original RTS carrier play.
Can we get better Anti air or the Focus System from PC for anti air?
I'm just curious, is the mobile phone CV updated tomorrow?
A game-destroying patch. Who in their fucking minds thought the CV rework was a job well done - or even required? Even monkies could have done better balance adjustements. Won't be playing the game or spending money until patched.
All the CV mains tears in the comments bc they can't bully DDs anymore while sitting at the back of the map unharmed is great. Not a fan of the larger squadron size, bomb payload, or the dented robotic plane factory but ig we'll see.
This buff is too strong, pls adjust asap
Fuel thing is amazing, no more carriers in the edge of the map. Thanks WG
Kinda weird that planes no longer spot torpedoes...to be fair, I have spotted torps leaving the tubes only to hit a ship 20 seconds later, including other DDs.
Also can't an AA cruiser just sit behind an island and only be spotted for the carrier he can ignore.
Add a goddamn chat box for team comunication 😡
It will be very toxic..
@@AirBatuCampur00who gives a fuck If they are toxic. That's players were these days always
@@generalfranky1905 maybe dev will give a fuck.. Tbh i hope some certain form of communications for between team. Maybe improve exsiting comm tooltip. Include more
We need that fuel mechanic on PC.
This has got to be the worst update in a long time why are we buffing carriers. They are already the most busted class in the game. No wonder why the player count keeps dropping. This game will soon be like wot console dead with no players
and now we have a carrier in every game because they are way too strong and the anti-aircraft defense is too weak. this update makes no sense...
Removing the detection ability of the catapult fighters and the patrol ship is the stupidest thing a human could think of. You have not even justified this choice which is useless. The hunter plane is no longer useful except for certain perks.
After a fee days of testing it, it seems to me that playing carrier became easier, while it hasn't become that easier to shoot down planes. Also 40 planes for clear sky is a bit too high threshold. I personally don't like this update because it favours the class that actually has nothing to do with positioning. Can we have a separate play mode without carriers?
First thing I’m curious about. Since planes are losing the engine cooldown, what’s replacing it? At Tier 3 it’s the only consumable planes have.
Second, when something is mentioned ‘to come’ does that mean a new carrier like Germany’s Erich Lowenhardt or France’s Béarn, or the return of one from previous events such as Independence or Ark Royal?
EDIT: Got to thinking about the consumables. Why not give carrier planes a ‘War Emergency Power or WEP’ consumable? Boosts aircraft speed by a further 10% for fifteen seconds.
Or perhaps a ‘Fighter Escort’ that functions like a CAP but follows the bomber squadron around and protects it from enemy carrier fighters and ship-launched fighters?
They didn't lose anything. They essentially get permanent engine boost for free + 10% speed buff with this update.
Good ideas on the extra support power. I'd say give the armor at all tiers seeing all the planes hp is being nerfed.
Make it easy for carriers players. What a great idea. CVS went from irrelevant to broken. Trying so hard not to quit this game after 5 years but this update blows
175s restoration time welp guessing that cv wont be doing anything and its the only one not to get its bombs buffed and actually had its torpedo dpm nerfed
We have increased the amount of restored aircraft for each restoration cycle, as well as the amount of aircraft in a squadron for most carriers, which results in faster restoration times than before in most cases.
@@WorldofWarshipsLegends So the restoration time can restore one plane few seconds but for have them all it takes more time, im correct?
@@michaelvelez6699for Exemple if you got 1 plane in 45 seconds you will now get 3 Planes every 90 seconds
@@WorldofWarshipsLegends i see interesting
They also dropped the hp of individual planes. Yeah I don't see this as a positive. Planes will be dropping more quickly than you can replace them.
Interesting, let's see in practice...🇧🇷
Think everything is good for the CV rework except the spotting it’s already hard to spot DDs as anything but a CV and now it’s like impossible lol my games where like everything but 3 ships are DDs is gonna be every single game
Then play DD or a radar cruiser. Lmao. "I can't be braindead and spot ships with muh planes bc easy spots." Tell you're clueless on game fundamentals without telling me you're clueless on game fundamentals. CVs perma spotting broke game fundamentals which is positioning which detection is required to do that. CVs now actually have to use their brains instead of being some zombie playing brainlessly to spot.
@@godzillaiv2096 Calm down man lol we each allowed to have our own opinion lol. I don't agree with the spotting only appearing on the mini map that it my dude. I think they should be shown like how any normal ship would spot lol, and once you get far enough away, they become undetected lol. Ain't no reason to go spout nonsense.
@@calebhequembourg2479 Do you understand how broken that makes that class? Fundamentals isn't nonsense. Lmao. DDs need to use detect to grab caps, contest caps, spot, ect. DDs can't do that when a CV can keep them spotted the entire time allowing the entire team to shoot them. Using detect allows positioning and having a CV perma spotting ruins detect therefore ruins positioning which therefore breaks a huge fundamental of the game.
@@godzillaiv2096 maybe in your opinion but I rarely have problems as a DD getting spotted by a CV. I truly that detects by CV should be spotted for the whole team and once the plane leaves the area they go back to being hidden. Either way you gotta be practically on top of a DD in a plane to spot in the 1st place.
I'm not here to argue with someone I just voiced my opinion if you like it you like it, and if you dont suck it up and move on...
@@calebhequembourg2479 Except the DD can't go unspotted if the CV targets him. That was the problem.
Will we ever get a second aircraft carrier tech tree line like in the pc version of the game?
Wow I am honestly really happy with the new spotting mechanism. Thanks wargaming!
Also movile??or just consoles for now???
Hi devs!
The game is friggin busted as of now with CV’s dominating matches
Can you just please put a cap on the amount of DDs allowed on each team to three if you're going to get rid of the ability for planes to spot torps. Can't wait to hop into a match with 5+ DDs now 🙄
Just a DD whiner buff
Hey WG. Now that you have reworked the game mechanics of all carriers, could you bring the broken balanced Arc Royal back to the store?
I love where the carriers are in the game. They SHOULD BE strong. Please forward all my message to the game development team
Must be the worst update in the history of WG.
Do you play carriers by any chance
I'd say it's the best
I agree, your not alone, I think the changes are way to big of a nerf, now I feel like I don’t make any impact once so ever
Won't be investing in any carriers like the E, due to the nerf.
I had just begun to get the hang of working the things and then they change it all up. Now down to 'least played' class.
So carriers still deal next to no damage?
Dmg is not the problem i think. Getting your Planes to drop before every Single one gets obliterated is the question
i stopped using carriers at t7 and up because the hell of AA will leave you with no planes before the 5 minute mark even if you pre drop and are selective with your target. They were so expensive to run and you would have to perform amazingly in order to make money. Now they gave you more planes but less HP, and the AA stays the same so you’ll lose more planes now and do less damage. Brilliant
@@oysterswithcutelegs2061that having to perform crazy in every match really applies to every ship in above tier 7 I don’t play any of those ships I only collect them once I get hykiryu I’ll have every carrier aside from independence and ark royal but I’ll never use it or midway
Will this come to PC?
Holy sgit the Legends team did something that the main PC deus haven't: change CV spotting strength
CV spotting did get changed on PC. They had a whole rework too from what I heard.
@@hellcat0142 it's being tested, and it is complicated and sounds stupid
I would even play if the game was compatible with my phone... Especially because the game was compatible 1 month ago!
When is this update?
Monday
Aircraft carriers used to be fun to play as, and to think I shot that poor aircraft carrier thinking it was a major Target that need to die fast, poor bastard was just a free kill just as I, and I thought I was lucky when those bombs didn't set a fire or do any damage.
Quando vai chegar os submarinos?
They absolutely nuked carriers they're practically useless now
Can wait for how this community will turn its head in a month or two.
I love playing carriers, but I really hope they fixed the glitch on Xbox where you randomly disconnect from the server via desync. I call it the Code 11 glitch. I haven't been able to play carriets since they came out so I really hope they fixed the connection issue....
Possibly something on your end. I know of nobody that plays this game gets that issue taking a carrier
@armouredreaper9050 I know quite a few people who have the same issue on Legends as I do. Its only an Xbox glitch, but it all started 2 or 3 updates after they added carriers. It mostly happens with carriers, but I also get the code 11 message while playing ships normally. I know it is not my internet because I have the best internet you can get in my area and I'm using an ethernet cable to stabilize any issues I may have.
@cotabom well weird you know lots of people having your issue, and I know people are not having any issues. Ah well.
@armouredreaper9050 It doesn't happen to everyone, but it is still an issue I want, and others want to have fixed. You play on Playstation or Xbox? Because Playstation doesn't have the issue. Only Xbox.
@@cotabom no xbox bud, don't know anybody that plays on playstation either. It is a strange one.
Eyo just wanna ask when its gonna drop
Update is Monday I believe
why do i feel like the fuel is gonna be like they put a drop of gas in the gas tank
When will we be able to use carriers on mobile?
You are one of the mobile players, who are probably ruin so many of my matches! Oh thank you. In my opinion you should never play CV or Ranked on an mobile phone. Pls buy an Playstation or an Xbox and see the difference.
I also play console. And I am better on console.
@@rigosbartok7873mate, do u expect we mobile community have money? Beside i very disagree with this crossplay bs
@@rigosbartok7873in other word just get used to it, mobile players like me are nothing but braindead kids rushing and being well, braindead
@@VinoProduction192 that are your words. If you wanna say you are performing best on Mobile, so let it be.
My God. It is unbelievable that the console version has the rework for CVs that everyone in PC has been asking for years. They removed the spotting while the stupid devs of the PC version refuse to do this simple change.
Se need this spot mecanic on WOWS, just this
Its only natural to want Submarines in the game to combat carriers and destroyers.
I think regarding Fuel, it should be raised so the distance traveled back to the carrier should also use fuel. Once it runs out of Fuel, the planes should stop what ever they are doing and drop in the water, like when a car runs out of Petrol for instance.
Hell no.
@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 Hell yes!
@@michaelkopljan578 I understand why people would want such a feature. Ya'll hate carriers, I get it. I expect no sympathy. I only ask that you lot consider that its already a pain in the ass to lose all our planes to a team half made up of impenetrable AA Cruisers and American and French battleships. Making it so that planes will just drop out the sky on the way back will at worst force carriers closer to the front than even the Devs intended, and at best will lead to your friendly carrier becoming deplaned and useless much earlier in the battle. I fear for Saipan's tiny air wing.
This is a weird update. The spotting, squadrons,fuel and the campaign but good that fleet battles are back.
We should have 2 different types of plans up and the air of all times
I’m ironically killed CVs I have no idea who decided it would be a good idea.
Just make the AA range like 10 km and plane spot like 12 km.
I’m a Captain with 20,000 battles under my belt. However, this still doesn’t solve the problem the game has when it comes to noob CV players reversing their carriers at the back of the map. Yes, the fuel capacity is a welcome adjustment which I think is duly needed, but, an actual tutorial on how to utilise CV’s before players should be allowed to use them in standard is a MUST. I think it’s time you updated your tutorials and have class specific tutorials that should be mandatory for players to play before they set sail on the 7 sea’s. I believe I speak for a lot of people when I suggest this potential and necessary implementation.
great yay
Fine. But make the HuD more editable, greater size still and translucency, and colours & boldness.
Doesn’t look like it fixes the tier Vii issue of run out, half squadron dies, return. Run out, die, return… other than giving more planes. So yeh, yet to see this one. I never found time to fly around, unless it was to find a better angle and avoid AA.
lol biggest nerf in history of wows legends 🤣 no spottings of ships and torps just remove them from the game already
Big nerf for russian cv bombs must skip once lol
Hello wows legends when you plan to put the submarines we have all types of ships but not submarines
We would like to thank you all for your attention
Legends on pc when?
So they r nerfing cv again..the planes r bad enough..like they r made of paper
Didn’t nerf CVs. They made them ridiculously OP, did you even watch the vid or try it out???
sooo when do we get Ap rocket for Cv's
never, go to hell
Will these changes come also for PC? And if, when.
Dang, CVs in Mobile can be very devastating to Mobile players, like me.
Because? People.
Whelp DDs are gonna run rampant now...
No submarines!!! Please 🙏🏻 perhaps mines with a minimal spotting range would be fun?...
Now every CV player Go for bbs and for the big DMG... Noone Go for spotting dds or torps... What a shame... The Main duty of CV in worldwar was spotting the enemy fleet for the big bbs, yeah also sink them but spotting was so importent... Sad to remove this main Playstyle and sry for all BBS when i cant Help you out with the dds... Legends says they still pinging, need inteletence Data!... And sry for my English lol
As if CV's didn't suck enough, now they can't even spot destroyers or torpedoes, which was about all they were good for anyway. Can't wait to grind with my Tier VII's just to be completely useless, get a pitiful amount of XP, and pay handsomely for the privilege.
Heads up, Captains!
We have temporarily removed the option to rent Hakuryū and Midway due to technical reasons. There is currently no ETA that we can provide for their return to the store. It's being worked on as we speak.
Meanwhile, our engineers are navigating through a storm of technical challenges-send them a lifebuoy!
Why would you rent a cv.I wouldn't play them if it was free you've destroyed cvs and all the upgrades cvs players saved for congratulations see ya
Remove your balance department from the company
Haha guys I think you missed the part where you make AA better
AA will be more effective since the planes in squadrons will have less HP. No need to reduce HP and increase AA damage, that would be too much, especially at higher tiers where AA on most ships is fairly high anyway.
Tier Vii ?!!
@@hellcat0142on god man this is already mainly a nerf to CVs with a few bright things for CVs no need to make them totally useless lol
@@hellcat0142Except planes get more bombs, overall HP increase bc squadron is bigger plus those insane restoration times..that alone requires compensation in some form of a AA buff.
@@godzillaiv2096 you obviously havent read the patch notes
Yes, planes get more bombs, but they also have reduced damage, penetration, and fire chance. That change was made to give a better hit chance while keeping the damage stable.
The overall HP does not increase, and in many case decreases. Yes, there are more planes, but they have reduced HP which reduces the total health of the squadrons.
And the reason some restoration times are fast is because in those carriers you are going to be losing your planes fast. Faster now that they have less health.
Check your facts before you open your mouth.
Honestly think they should have made more nerfs, reduce the restoration rate so killing a plane actually is impactful, especially since they get more planes now
Im exited that carries are being added to mobile but i want the armor viewer