Sir, you always seem to upload a video on topics I’m thinking about. Are you in my head? Get out of my head! Lol. Thanks for the content! (and I’ve kept the bell on for the notifications. I turned off a few others)
Thanks for a very well-structured and informative video! One thing about taking out one side of the headset: it will not yield mono (which could be balanced) but only ‘half-stereo’ which will be unbalanced anyway. But then, most of times it’s done as an emergency measure for a disfunctional monitor mix… Thanks again!
This is really great James. I am about to go into a dedicated time or EQing and leveling and getting presets for our musicians and singers and having this to share with our vocalists is going to be wonderful. Thank you for all the time, effort, and heart you put into this.
Hi James ..I'm a musician and FOH engineer on stage for 140 people, every Friday - Saturday a different orchestra (2-10 musicians). I feel I have to thank you for your videos. I have seen most of them, and after each video, I practice what you say, on my consoles (RCF M18 + XR18) ... in each of your videos I become even better, and whenever I do sound check, I follow your advice... keep making videos .. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ..
@@AttawayAudio I am definitely a bigger talent than you .. I play bouzouki - violin - clarinet ..and this is my hobby ... I'm a chocolate seller , for living ... hahahahaha ... !!!
I’m bingeing your content right now, so helpful for where I am right now. I song and play guitar and I’m just looking to get started with in-ears. I’m learning so much about how to get good sound and help the sound guy help me sound as good as possible.
Great. I will try your techniques. Just starting on iem’s and beginning to understand this hum issue inside my head. It was unexpected so I will try your recommendations to minimize it. Thanks!
Great information, before I used two channels for vocals in my X-Air, Channel 1 for PA and Channel 11 for my in-ears Monitoring (With same input selected with my mic like you explain). The channel for monitoring always haved less Compression and Bass than channel for PA for sound ecual chequed in my recordings and I forgot apply this until view your video, and now know the reason. Yesterday recorded various song with a perfect sound in mi In-ears but when I lisened the voice absolutely no body and descontroled dinamics. Another theme is that I calibred my In-ears M6 Pro with a calibracion mic ECM8000 and plastic tube for simulation of the auditive conduit and corrected the EQ with pink noise and apply this EQ in the monitor bus, but the resonance in my body augmented the lower frequencies, this added to the my voice resonate. Very comfused bass and masquing the hight frequecies. I will try use your information for compensate this. Thankyou very much.
How should a singer conduct a sound check in a way that would be beneficial to an engineer? Should we start by belting it out on the mic, by singing high notes, low notes, mids, by saying "check, check, 123". What would be a good vocal procedure by singers when doing vocal check that will make your life easier? Would love to see a video on that.
Here's a really simple trick that works for me: I never turn my own voice up on my in-ears. Why is that? You hear yourself plenty inside your own head as the in-ears shut off the outside noise. I find the "inner hum" absolutely sufficient. Hearing yourself double will distract you too much and throw you off key. In my opinion they are there so you hear everyone else, not yourself.
A+ information. I have never got comfortable with IEMs. It’s just a sterile environment in comparison to feeling the “weight” of the sound from speakers. That being said there are many stages/events where the IEMs are essential. I will use them when the gig dictates but, prefer to hear the monitors/house speakers. It may be from decades of singing without IEMs and blending with other singers when singing BGVs. Love the channel. Keep up the good work. Peace
I agree 100%. IEMs stink. Not that they don't have their place (or even their benefits), but it's kind of like everyone switching to direct bass and no amps for a quiet stage 20 years ago. We're seeing the resurgence of the SVT. It just gives energy, stage presence, and good tone. As a singer, there's nothing that can rob the feeling like a sterile rendition of the live voice way too up front in the IEM. Of course not everyone feels this way. Some people can get past this. It's part reality and part psychological. Confidence would be denying or not worrying about the psychological side which is not easy to do. I find pitch also much more difficult with headphones and IEMs vs the natural acoustic voice or voice through wedges. Listening to "live" radio unplugged concerts performed by pro pop singers, I can tell that I'm not alone in having trouble with pitch when wearing headphones (I see pros with one ear off all the time BTW). A lot can be fixed in post. But better to not have much fixing to do.
Oh my gosh. This is all Greek to me. I cannot hear myself when playing with my band (newbie here.) last time I tried sharing a monitor with two other people (guitar, vocals and harmonica, plus my vocals. At one point I could hear myself a little, but then I couldn’t at all and nothing we did helped. Also the band is too loud so I purchased earasers. After exchanging them for the extra small, they do help with the ringing and ear spasms after, but still can’t here myself. I am interested in getting an “in ear” monitor that will also block out some of the band and protect my hearing but I am such a newbie that I can’t comprehend all of the articles or videos I am watching. Does my mic plug into it before it hits the pa? They don’t explain anything, just assume I speak this language and know something. Also it seems like they might be saying the the entire band goes into my monitor. I can already hear them. That’s the problem. They are soooo loud. The space is too small for me to get my own monitor also. Plus I don’t have a lot of money. Can anyone here direct me to something that can explain how an in ear monitor would work for a singer in my situation who has no equipment knowledge at all? At this point I have no clue what I need to get and how it would connect with the band’s equipment.
I have the same problem! 😩 I know that this is really bad for my hearing but I sometimes pull my IEMs out just a bit so I can hear myself better. Im going to try to pan my voice to one side and see if that helps.
I feel you - this video (and many of my others) assume you have a sound system setup and somewhat working. In-ears are typically fed from a sound board, so there's some sort of mic preamp and mixing involved before it gets to you. This is typically done via an Aux Send, or Mix (depending on what the console maker decided to call it), so you can send ONLY what you want to hear. As for the device, there are several you can get, but that goes beyond the scope of a TH-cam comment :) I hope this helps explain a little for your future research!
jaye thomas!!!!!!!!!!!! whooooooo lol ............ unrelated how do i even convince my pastor to get iems, also how on earth do you make videos on topics i am thinking about its like you know just what to make a video on
Did you ever get that sorted out? For me it was simple, I didn't have the pitch reference loud enough and my own voice TOO loud! Ironically, having it a little less loud and a little less bright sounding actually helped me hear myself better, somehow.
goshh i was looking is it okay to hear youself as basshum, or its just my iem sucks... Now I understand that this is a common problem , but it is really a bad one. Very disturbing while singing. Will test different tips and maybe another iem. Thank you for that insight
These are great tips, never thought of the polarity reversal and slight panning! Can I ask your philosophy on reverbs + compression on one's own voice in iems? Have heard several people condemn it...but it just sounds really unnatural and vacuous to me in ear without some room verb...Flat and weird when it's dry. Not adding gobs of it, just enough to give some depth and make it sound like I'm not out in space, also giving the perception of my own voice/guitar sounding bigger without ramping up volume. Being a guitarist at the same time and typically keeping right on the mic, I like some compression to tame the peaks and save needing to do as much "self-monitoring"/coming away from the mic. People keep telling me I'm wrong for this, but it just seems silly to not make use of the whole sonic field between our ears, to design and delegate everything into (notably running everything in stereo and using custom molded Westones, which have incredible imaging).
When it comes to monitoring, it's all so personal. So don't let someone tell you it isn't right if it's helping you sing your best. Crowd mics are also helpful for adding the realism back into it.
Hi new subscriber here it can help me a lot,I'm a new in this ier. I just use it for a week and I don't feel comfortable. Can ia sk if I need to put effex in my ear monitor,thank you in advance!
You can un-assign them from the main output going to FOH but route them straight to the matrix (if your console lets you) or run it through a bus that's then sent to the stream matrix
I've tried that at home, but it makes it worse IMO. If you like it I won't stop you, but I want the latency to be as low as possible. On one tour in the last decade or so Bono had his vocal going analog to his ears, with the rest of the mix supplied by a digital console, to avoid any latency.
Thanks James, just swapped to IEMs at our church, perfect timing for this video. I was also wondering if you have any tips for mixing electric drum kits where you only have a stereo signal to work with? I’m struggling to EQ things to get some drums right without ruining others, or the cymbals.
Sorry to butt in, as you didnt ask for my advice. I figured id chime in a bit. Best thing to do with that scenario is treat the stereo mix like a Drum Buss. Doing a highpass to get rid of some of the Low sub.(I normally like around 20-25 hz). Only do that if it makes it sound better. Getting rid of some of the muddiness around 350-500 hz if any is needed. Also doing some light compression maybe 2-3 db of gain reduction or to taste. Whatever sounds good to your ears without getting a pumping effect. You want it to be clean glue. last step would be to send a copy of the buss to a group for Parallel compression or Drum smash. Mix that channel in to taste. Most importantly before doing all of that get a good balanced mix in levels on the edrum kits module before you start dialing in the eq and compression. What type of Edrum set is it that you have?
Most E-Drums you can pan the sound, so with our TD17KVX we pan the kick to the left and all the rest to the right. Then you can eq the low end on its own channel, and the same with the high. Of course, you can add the floor tom to the kick if you like.
The X32 Rack Aux sends are mono, so how would I pan the in-ear audio? Please be patient with me. I’m a musician trying to work on my band’s sound. Thanks for your answer.
I ask the singer to sing loud as possible, he doesn't do, later I have to adjust the gain, because distortion and he complains, that his monitor level decreased.
Might be that the singer’s voice wasnt warm up yet and he/she didnt dare to go straight too really loud (can damage easily when your voice is already tired and f*ck the entire performance). A better way to make them do it, if they dont understand it’s needed, is to tell them to start by singing a pre chorus and a chorus, then hopefully they go from a bit louder than a verse too their loudest part: the chorus. Then to be secure, ask them to sing their loudest song from the start and add « don’t hold back on it, I need you to give me 100% on this song » Some singers learn the word « loud » has a negative impact on their singing technic, particularly when they are not in shape or properly warm up. So sentences like « give me your all! » will encourage them unconsciously to be loud without scaring them about their voice ^_^ hope that helps as a plan B for you 🥰
just tried panning my voice & reversing the polarity. Game changer! Thanks for the info
Sir, you always seem to upload a video on topics I’m thinking about. Are you in my head? Get out of my head! Lol. Thanks for the content! (and I’ve kept the bell on for the notifications. I turned off a few others)
He does that on purpose just to freak us out
lol I just have the same problems and make a video about it
few IEM tutorials talk about occlusion effect...great job!
Thanks for a very well-structured and informative video!
One thing about taking out one side of the headset: it will not yield mono (which could be balanced) but only ‘half-stereo’ which will be unbalanced anyway.
But then, most of times it’s done as an emergency measure for a disfunctional monitor mix… Thanks again!
This is really great James. I am about to go into a dedicated time or EQing and leveling and getting presets for our musicians and singers and having this to share with our vocalists is going to be wonderful. Thank you for all the time, effort, and heart you put into this.
Sweet! Glad I could help
Hi James ..I'm a musician and FOH engineer on stage for 140 people, every Friday - Saturday a different orchestra (2-10 musicians). I feel I have to thank you for your videos. I have seen most of them, and after each video, I practice what you say, on my consoles (RCF M18 + XR18) ... in each of your videos I become even better, and whenever I do sound check, I follow your advice... keep making videos .. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ..
that's awesome! you're more talented than me - I can't play and think about my tone or the mix at the same time
@@AttawayAudio I am definitely a bigger talent than you .. I play bouzouki - violin - clarinet ..and this is my hobby ... I'm a chocolate seller , for living ... hahahahaha ... !!!
I'm so glad this channel exists
me too... except when the trolls come out in the comments. those aren't fun to deal with.
I’m bingeing your content right now, so helpful for where I am right now. I song and play guitar and I’m just looking to get started with in-ears. I’m learning so much about how to get good sound and help the sound guy help me sound as good as possible.
It's awesome to hear that! IEMs are definitely the way to go!
Thank you. Really curious about invert polarity on singers mics. I will test this next gig. Keep rockin.
Great. I will try your techniques. Just starting on iem’s and beginning to understand this hum issue inside my head. It was unexpected so I will try your recommendations to minimize it. Thanks!
Great information, before I used two channels for vocals in my X-Air, Channel 1 for PA and Channel 11 for my in-ears Monitoring (With same input selected with my mic like you explain). The channel for monitoring always haved less Compression and Bass than channel for PA for sound ecual chequed in my recordings and I forgot apply this until view your video, and now know the reason.
Yesterday recorded various song with a perfect sound in mi In-ears but when I lisened the voice absolutely no body and descontroled dinamics.
Another theme is that I calibred my In-ears M6 Pro with a calibracion mic ECM8000 and plastic tube for simulation of the auditive conduit and corrected the EQ with pink noise and apply this EQ in the monitor bus, but the resonance in my body augmented the lower frequencies, this added to the my voice resonate. Very comfused bass and masquing the hight frequecies. I will try use your information for compensate this. Thankyou very much.
How should a singer conduct a sound check in a way that would be beneficial to an engineer? Should we start by belting it out on the mic, by singing high notes, low notes, mids, by saying "check, check, 123". What would be a good vocal procedure by singers when doing vocal check that will make your life easier? Would love to see a video on that.
I feel like I'm watching Ross teach us about In-ear monitors.
Great video. I always find I hit the height notes better if I shut off the hot water 🚿
Lol Great opening! Been watching since about 30,000 subscribers ago. Always great content!!
thanks Josh! you were one of the early ones :)
Here's a really simple trick that works for me: I never turn my own voice up on my in-ears.
Why is that? You hear yourself plenty inside your own head as the in-ears shut off the outside noise. I find the "inner hum" absolutely sufficient.
Hearing yourself double will distract you too much and throw you off key.
In my opinion they are there so you hear everyone else, not yourself.
What is the rhyme he warms up with?? I like it!!
Very helpful video! I'd like to know who this singer is! That guy has got a great voice!
Lol this happened to me I was way to loud thinking my mic wasn't loud enough. I didn't loose my range I was just very loud.
Panning your own voice is the secret sauce!!
everybody loves the secret sauce
A+ information. I have never got comfortable with IEMs. It’s just a sterile environment in comparison to feeling the “weight” of the sound from speakers. That being said there are many stages/events where the IEMs are essential. I will use them when the gig dictates but, prefer to hear the monitors/house speakers. It may be from decades of singing without IEMs and blending with other singers when singing BGVs. Love the channel. Keep up the good work.
Peace
they can be a tough transition! my number 1 recommendation is properly mixed room mics. they help sooo much
I agree 100%. IEMs stink. Not that they don't have their place (or even their benefits), but it's kind of like everyone switching to direct bass and no amps for a quiet stage 20 years ago. We're seeing the resurgence of the SVT. It just gives energy, stage presence, and good tone.
As a singer, there's nothing that can rob the feeling like a sterile rendition of the live voice way too up front in the IEM. Of course not everyone feels this way. Some people can get past this. It's part reality and part psychological. Confidence would be denying or not worrying about the psychological side which is not easy to do. I find pitch also much more difficult with headphones and IEMs vs the natural acoustic voice or voice through wedges. Listening to "live" radio unplugged concerts performed by pro pop singers, I can tell that I'm not alone in having trouble with pitch when wearing headphones (I see pros with one ear off all the time BTW). A lot can be fixed in post. But better to not have much fixing to do.
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Father, Son & Holy Spirit
-Ronnie
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Thank you, Sir, 🌺🙏🌺
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He looks and sounds like the superwog guy.
Oh my gosh. This is all Greek to me. I cannot hear myself when playing with my band (newbie here.) last time I tried sharing a monitor with two other people (guitar, vocals and harmonica, plus my vocals. At one point I could hear myself a little, but then I couldn’t at all and nothing we did helped. Also the band is too loud so I purchased earasers. After exchanging them for the extra small, they do help with the ringing and ear spasms after, but still can’t here myself. I am interested in getting an “in ear” monitor that will also block out some of the band and protect my hearing but I am such a newbie that I can’t comprehend all of the articles or videos I am watching. Does my mic plug into it before it hits the pa? They don’t explain anything, just assume I speak this language and know something. Also it seems like they might be saying the the entire band goes into my monitor. I can already hear them. That’s the problem. They are soooo loud. The space is too small for me to get my own monitor also. Plus I don’t have a lot of money. Can anyone here direct me to something that can explain how an in ear monitor would work for a singer in my situation who has no equipment knowledge at all? At this point I have no clue what I need to get and how it would connect with the band’s equipment.
I have the same problem! 😩 I know that this is really bad for my hearing but I sometimes pull my IEMs out just a bit so I can hear myself better. Im going to try to pan my voice to one side and see if that helps.
I feel you - this video (and many of my others) assume you have a sound system setup and somewhat working. In-ears are typically fed from a sound board, so there's some sort of mic preamp and mixing involved before it gets to you. This is typically done via an Aux Send, or Mix (depending on what the console maker decided to call it), so you can send ONLY what you want to hear.
As for the device, there are several you can get, but that goes beyond the scope of a TH-cam comment :) I hope this helps explain a little for your future research!
jaye thomas!!!!!!!!!!!! whooooooo lol ............ unrelated how do i even convince my pastor to get iems, also how on earth do you make videos on topics i am thinking about its like you know just what to make a video on
lol it goes like this - I have pain points. I make a video about it.
@@AttawayAudio haha i got you man!!
vocal warmups, what is this craziness?
at least I didn't demonstrate this time
@@AttawayAudio xD
Thanks
I always end up singing off key with IEMs and only with IEMs and I don’t know why! It’s wild…
Did you ever get that sorted out? For me it was simple, I didn't have the pitch reference loud enough and my own voice TOO loud! Ironically, having it a little less loud and a little less bright sounding actually helped me hear myself better, somehow.
goshh i was looking is it okay to hear youself as basshum, or its just my iem sucks... Now I understand that this is a common problem , but it is really a bad one. Very disturbing while singing. Will test different tips and maybe another iem. Thank you for that insight
If you were going for bear grills, it’s a British accent! Haha
Love from Nathan in Australia
Love your work
I was aiming for Steve Irwin. But probably missed it by a few oceans.
@@AttawayAudio
Very entertaining never the less!
These are great tips, never thought of the polarity reversal and slight panning! Can I ask your philosophy on reverbs + compression on one's own voice in iems? Have heard several people condemn it...but it just sounds really unnatural and vacuous to me in ear without some room verb...Flat and weird when it's dry. Not adding gobs of it, just enough to give some depth and make it sound like I'm not out in space, also giving the perception of my own voice/guitar sounding bigger without ramping up volume. Being a guitarist at the same time and typically keeping right on the mic, I like some compression to tame the peaks and save needing to do as much "self-monitoring"/coming away from the mic. People keep telling me I'm wrong for this, but it just seems silly to not make use of the whole sonic field between our ears, to design and delegate everything into (notably running everything in stereo and using custom molded Westones, which have incredible imaging).
When it comes to monitoring, it's all so personal. So don't let someone tell you it isn't right if it's helping you sing your best. Crowd mics are also helpful for adding the realism back into it.
@@AttawayAudio I agree! Thank you!
Hi new subscriber here it can help me a lot,I'm a new in this ier. I just use it for a week and I don't feel comfortable. Can ia sk if I need to put effex in my ear monitor,thank you in advance!
I have truly enjoyed your videos. Quick question, do you travel to set up sound for churches?
I do, but only a few times a year. Reach out via email if you'd like to talk about it.
Hello! How can I send the signal from the ambient microphones to the live broadcast? For this I use a matrix
You can un-assign them from the main output going to FOH but route them straight to the matrix (if your console lets you) or run it through a bus that's then sent to the stream matrix
what about ading litle latency only on voc so it doesent do the skullthing
I've tried that at home, but it makes it worse IMO. If you like it I won't stop you, but I want the latency to be as low as possible. On one tour in the last decade or so Bono had his vocal going analog to his ears, with the rest of the mix supplied by a digital console, to avoid any latency.
Thanks James, just swapped to IEMs at our church, perfect timing for this video. I was also wondering if you have any tips for mixing electric drum kits where you only have a stereo signal to work with? I’m struggling to EQ things to get some drums right without ruining others, or the cymbals.
Sorry to butt in, as you didnt ask for my advice. I figured id chime in a bit. Best thing to do with that scenario is treat the stereo mix like a Drum Buss. Doing a highpass to get rid of some of the Low sub.(I normally like around 20-25 hz). Only do that if it makes it sound better. Getting rid of some of the muddiness around 350-500 hz if any is needed. Also doing some light compression maybe 2-3 db of gain reduction or to taste. Whatever sounds good to your ears without getting a pumping effect. You want it to be clean glue. last step would be to send a copy of the buss to a group for Parallel compression or Drum smash. Mix that channel in to taste.
Most importantly before doing all of that get a good balanced mix in levels on the edrum kits module before you start dialing in the eq and compression. What type of Edrum set is it that you have?
I've gotten this question so many times that I should probably do a video on it.
@@EqDior thanks for that, there’s some good tips to try out. I’ll have to double check what model it is.
Most E-Drums you can pan the sound, so with our TD17KVX we pan the kick to the left and all the rest to the right. Then you can eq the low end on its own channel, and the same with the high. Of course, you can add the floor tom to the kick if you like.
The X32 Rack Aux sends are mono, so how would I pan the in-ear audio? Please be patient with me. I’m a musician trying to work on my band’s sound. Thanks for your answer.
No problem - you have to stereo link two mixes together to make them stereo. Then the send can have panning available.
I ask the singer to sing loud as possible, he doesn't do, later I have to adjust the gain, because distortion and he complains, that his monitor level decreased.
The dound engineer's nightmare
Might be that the singer’s voice wasnt warm up yet and he/she didnt dare to go straight too really loud (can damage easily when your voice is already tired and f*ck the entire performance). A better way to make them do it, if they dont understand it’s needed, is to tell them to start by singing a pre chorus and a chorus, then hopefully they go from a bit louder than a verse too their loudest part: the chorus. Then to be secure, ask them to sing their loudest song from the start and add « don’t hold back on it, I need you to give me 100% on this song »
Some singers learn the word « loud » has a negative impact on their singing technic, particularly when they are not in shape or properly warm up. So sentences like « give me your all! » will encourage them unconsciously to be loud without scaring them about their voice ^_^ hope that helps as a plan B for you 🥰
Про signera, 10 из 10 😆😆🤣
only when singing below the bass clef