I wish all the in the bags were like this. So good. Scott is all over my feed right now. Wish I could be closer to where he's going to be this year for a lesson.
Scott - BH generates massive amnt of spin where FH does not. Turnover = speed > spin + disc stability. This is why people use more OS discs for their FH.
True, but if you've got good smooth technique Scott is right. I recently made some massive improvements in my forehand form and my flippy roller disc will now only barely turn on a forehand (with power for roughly the same distance, BH and FH). My OS discs act way more OS on a forehand than a backgand, regardless of how hard I throw.
@@XaeoLS yea man I think you should def practice with a less stable disc to encourage good form. You just won't set any distance records with an understable disc throwing FH as a certain level of speed is required.
Scott, your philosophy on DG is always refreshing. Alot of people are missing out on FH mid shots. Some of the easiest(less effort) straight shots can be accomplish with just a flick of the wrist. that sounds pretty handy.
I agree! Especially with him growing up in the early days of the sport. Hadn't really thought about that but you are right. Crazy to see no Innova or Discraft! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for introducing me to the Berg, which is now my favorite disc. If you haven't tried them, go for a K3 Hard when you get the chance. Still sorting through my mid ranges at this point, trying to rebuild around the Berg. ... When will you do another "in my bag" leading up to the 2022 Tour? I'll be excited to see what testing you do and you try to find the best discs. My game is similar to yours, so I'm almost certainty going to try what you recommend.
Awesome! Love the carefree attitude of picking discs that just fly true. I have a selection tip about the Trespass however, try to get the ones at 168 or 169g if you are looking at fusion burst made 2018 or so, both of mine in my bag are pop tops at 168 but the one I have at 173 has remolded a bit after it came out of the machine and left a flat spot about as wide as a sodacan on top and that has "pushed the dome" out towards the rim so it has more turn and fade than the lighter ones (in other words, more like a slightly beat in Raider). I would also like to recommend the fuse for a straight to understable mid with flight characteristics completely devoid of fade.
3 Bergs ????? I love the Berg too...it reminds me of throwing a flat car tire !! !!! Have a k2 plastic Berg i just put in and its like throwing a bean bag ! I also throw a piwakawaka and its my fav mid of all time ! What did u think of the kast Lots ????
I like this a lot. I've been working on my bag this year and I've got discs ive thrown since 04 that are hard to take out of my bag even though I don't throw them since I throw a pig or stag on everything lol.
Looks like Scott burned one down to get loose for the in the bag. Lol. In all seriousness this man helps me with my game far more than anyone else by far! Thanks Scott I just ordered the book as well!
I haven't heard anything about it since but I'm sure if you were to ask him on Facebook he would be happy to let you know. He is a ridiculously friendly dude! Thanks for watching!
holy shit, at the 10:15 mark, scott starts saying how it makes no sense to throw crazy flex shots like a destroyer for a 250ft hole, unless you are in the woods in north carolina. i literally was thinking as he was saying that "that's not right, i need to bend and skip overstable drivers all the time" lol i live in charlotte nc, cant believe he said that lol.
As of now we don't have any planned but we are working on it. Hopefully sooner than later. We have filmed 6 so far so if you haven't seen the rest, make sure you check out our playlist for a Joe vs Pro playlist. Thanks for watching and please share
I don't fully agree with your backhand / sidearm comment. Yes you can technically use a disc either way but. Discs with a lot of dome are really uncomfortable for me to throw sidearm. So that's a stipulation I have from my sidearm disc selection. So I do have a couple discs that I only throw backhand because of the obsessive dome. Also I prefer a grippy plastic for my backhand. I get way more spin on my throw with the extra grip. Sidearm I don't care about the plastic type, it doesn't affect my through.
I know what he means talking about backhand and sidearm disc. But i completely disagree to take the SAME disc. 1. the grip is different, so another disc may feel better (typically flatter for sidearm) 2. a backhand throw normally has more spin compared to velocity than a sidearm (there are Videos about this on TH-cam). As spin "stabilizes" the discs flight you have to balance this fact by throwing a slightly more (over)stable disc.
@@jaym6945 it does though. Scott is a 2 time world distance record holder. I'm pretty sure he knows what he is talking about. I agree the grip is different and that goes without saying but no reason you shouldn't be able to switch one disc for another backhand vs sidearm
@@jaym6945 For the average player these are true but if you are really pushing to be better they become moot. Though we all agree a flatter disc is more comfortable to side arm, someone with a well developed sidearm does not care and will throw the right disc regardless of dome, because it's the right disc and they can adapt. Additionally, a well developed sidearm player can balance wrist movement with arm speed so as to get an essentially mirrored flight as a backhand of the same disc with maybe only a slight cost in distance. Don't take it as me arguing, because I think your points are valid for most amateur and casual players, but considering Scott teaches people with the intent of treating them like future pros, he is also right to have those higher expectations. Just my take, anyway.
Ricky Wysocki doesn’t either. He says within the first minute of his new in the cart that he has disc he throws for BH and some for FH. m.th-cam.com/video/VMBB32GoF7k/w-d-xo.html
The whole backhand forehand discs is a myth too, my dad can or did when he played Disc Golf more was Use a Wasp backhand/forehand one of the biggest bead non putter discs on the market. He also uses all but his Wizard forehand, the Wizard and similar discs with the same sized big bead or bigger have a hard time being gripped by a forehand due to the way the bead and convex wing is for that shot making the finger grip only on the bead. I know a bead with putters is not an issue for my dad as he can throw a Rubber Putter for a forehand approach as trying to throw more US with forehand is very difficult and then my dad will throw a Rhyno forehand when needed. I do not throw forehand period but do the US disc for that, and I do not carry a disc for every shot in fact all but my 2 12 speed Champion Destroyer and only max distance drivers has at least 2 uses for the disc except my putting putters obviously.
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There are those that can do, but not teach. There are those that can teach, but not do. Scott can teach and Scott can do. What a guy!
I 100% agree with this statement! Scott is a true legend of the sport! Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing.
"I'm sorry, I can't help it-- I'm going to have to teach as I go" ahaha gotta love Scott
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I wish all the in the bags were like this. So good. Scott is all over my feed right now. Wish I could be closer to where he's going to be this year for a lesson.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully you can find a way to get to one of his seminars eventually.
I've got more from Scott and Barsby's in the bay then any other. Simple and to the point.
Stokely is a great teacher! He and Barsby are both great dudes! Thanks for tuning in!
Thanks for helping me improve my game, Scott! You're a great teacher.
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Thanks for all the Stokely content. I find him endlessly entertaining.
He absolutely is! Thanks for watching and please share
I love how he makes everything simple, so refreshing lol
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Scott - BH generates massive amnt of spin where FH does not.
Turnover = speed > spin + disc stability.
This is why people use more OS discs for their FH.
True, but if you've got good smooth technique Scott is right. I recently made some massive improvements in my forehand form and my flippy roller disc will now only barely turn on a forehand (with power for roughly the same distance, BH and FH). My OS discs act way more OS on a forehand than a backgand, regardless of how hard I throw.
@@XaeoLS yea man I think you should def practice with a less stable disc to encourage good form. You just won't set any distance records with an understable disc throwing FH as a certain level of speed is required.
Scott, your philosophy on DG is always refreshing. Alot of people are missing out on FH mid shots. Some of the easiest(less effort) straight shots can be accomplish with just a flick of the wrist. that sounds pretty handy.
Scott is awesome for sure! Thanks for watching and please share
Hard to believe there isn’t a single Innova disc in his bag. Awesome video! Thanks
I agree! Especially with him growing up in the early days of the sport. Hadn't really thought about that but you are right. Crazy to see no Innova or Discraft! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for introducing me to the Berg, which is now my favorite disc. If you haven't tried them, go for a K3 Hard when you get the chance. Still sorting through my mid ranges at this point, trying to rebuild around the Berg. ... When will you do another "in my bag" leading up to the 2022 Tour? I'll be excited to see what testing you do and you try to find the best discs. My game is similar to yours, so I'm almost certainty going to try what you recommend.
Have you tried the K1 and K1 soft? If so what’s the difference between the 3?
Thx!
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Nice job with the graphic detailing the mould and maker.
Thanks Christopher! Really happy with how it turned out! It was an honor to be able to produce a quality ITB for a legend!
Awesome! Love the carefree attitude of picking discs that just fly true. I have a selection tip about the Trespass however, try to get the ones at 168 or 169g if you are looking at fusion burst made 2018 or so, both of mine in my bag are pop tops at 168 but the one I have at 173 has remolded a bit after it came out of the machine and left a flat spot about as wide as a sodacan on top and that has "pushed the dome" out towards the rim so it has more turn and fade than the lighter ones (in other words, more like a slightly beat in Raider). I would also like to recommend the fuse for a straight to understable mid with flight characteristics completely devoid of fade.
Hopefully Scott reads this comment so he can try a lighter weight Trespass! Thanks for watching and please share
This is the best produced and informative ITB I've watched so far. Thank you.
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Ur the man Scott, best teacher in disc golf ... any chance of your book going to audiobook and u read it??
Yes he could do that, as I bet he wrote the book in his own style of how he speaks.
I heard Morgan Freeman is doing it....
I really like the way he breaks this down...
Same! So much to learn in this ITB!
@@BaysingersDiscGolfChannel the 10% too much power discussion alone was super valuable
Love hearing his philosophy...I've watched some of his clinics, good stuff!
He is an outstanding teacher! We also filmed a clinic of his around 3 years ago. Thanks for watching and please share
Amen, amen
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3 Bergs ????? I love the Berg too...it reminds me of throwing a flat car tire !! !!! Have a k2 plastic Berg i just put in and its like throwing a bean bag ! I also throw a piwakawaka and its my fav mid of all time ! What did u think of the kast Lots ????
Thanks for watching and please share
Scott is great!!
He absolutely is! Thanks for tuning in!
I like this a lot. I've been working on my bag this year and I've got discs ive thrown since 04 that are hard to take out of my bag even though I don't throw them since I throw a pig or stag on everything lol.
It can definitely be hard to part with discs once you have kept them in the bag for years! Thanks for tuning in and please subscribe!
Wow. That was so educational, best ITB and overall dg lesson/philosphy.
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Nice! Legend right here!
Legend for sure! Thanks for watching and please share
Looks like Scott burned one down to get loose for the in the bag. Lol. In all seriousness this man helps me with my game far more than anyone else by far! Thanks Scott I just ordered the book as well!
Scott is an awesome dude! Check out our Pro vs Joes video with him!
I always think it's funny to walk into a pro shop and ask for a disc that can go really far.
When the answer is always "yes" haha
Good video. Thanks. Love Sugar Hollow.
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That intro lol I thght i clicked off the video for a sec hahaha
Wife: That's the only "in the bag" video that I actually got something out of. All the rest of them are just dumb.
after i read this, i looked at it from your view point and you are 100% right
Wonder what Scott's opinion ended up being on the Trespass. I've recently been throwing them and I like them so far. Still working them out though.
I haven't heard anything about it since but I'm sure if you were to ask him on Facebook he would be happy to let you know. He is a ridiculously friendly dude! Thanks for watching!
I will do that. Thanks!
holy shit, at the 10:15 mark, scott starts saying how it makes no sense to throw crazy flex shots like a destroyer for a 250ft hole, unless you are in the woods in north carolina. i literally was thinking as he was saying that "that's not right, i need to bend and skip overstable drivers all the time" lol i live in charlotte nc, cant believe he said that lol.
Dude has got some crazy knowledge! Thanks for tuning in!
Any idea who the next Pro vs Joe's is going to be with? It's a pretty fun & entertaining series!
As of now we don't have any planned but we are working on it. Hopefully sooner than later. We have filmed 6 so far so if you haven't seen the rest, make sure you check out our playlist for a Joe vs Pro playlist. Thanks for watching and please share
For the Berg which is best
K1
K1 soft
K3 hard
I would say K3 for putting and either K1 or K1 Soft for throwing. That would of course depend on the feel in the hand for you
I don't fully agree with your backhand / sidearm comment. Yes you can technically use a disc either way but. Discs with a lot of dome are really uncomfortable for me to throw sidearm. So that's a stipulation I have from my sidearm disc selection. So I do have a couple discs that I only throw backhand because of the obsessive dome. Also I prefer a grippy plastic for my backhand. I get way more spin on my throw with the extra grip. Sidearm I don't care about the plastic type, it doesn't affect my through.
I agree. It's a different throw and it's not stupid to think that a different type of disc is appropriate for sidearm.
I know what he means talking about backhand and sidearm disc.
But i completely disagree to take the SAME disc.
1. the grip is different, so another disc may feel better (typically flatter for sidearm)
2. a backhand throw normally has more spin compared to velocity than a sidearm (there are Videos about this on TH-cam). As spin "stabilizes" the discs flight you have to balance this fact by throwing a slightly more (over)stable disc.
Going to have to disagree. How many times have you held the distance world record?
@@BaysingersDiscGolfChannel this makes no sense
@@jaym6945 it does though. Scott is a 2 time world distance record holder. I'm pretty sure he knows what he is talking about. I agree the grip is different and that goes without saying but no reason you shouldn't be able to switch one disc for another backhand vs sidearm
@@jaym6945 For the average player these are true but if you are really pushing to be better they become moot. Though we all agree a flatter disc is more comfortable to side arm, someone with a well developed sidearm does not care and will throw the right disc regardless of dome, because it's the right disc and they can adapt. Additionally, a well developed sidearm player can balance wrist movement with arm speed so as to get an essentially mirrored flight as a backhand of the same disc with maybe only a slight cost in distance.
Don't take it as me arguing, because I think your points are valid for most amateur and casual players, but considering Scott teaches people with the intent of treating them like future pros, he is also right to have those higher expectations. Just my take, anyway.
It's Scott!
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Trespass is the best disc out there
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I’m trying to figure out why I can sidearm putters and drivers but not midranges.
Check out some of Scott's clinics! I'm sure there are some useful tips in those! Thanks for watching and please share
Good segment...but, why is he keep bending the hell out of the piwakawka disc?
My guess is to show the flexibility of the plastic. Thanks for watching!
6:15 Also, other side of that coin is throwing in different altitude.
Good point! However this doesn't really apply to the average disc golfer who doesn't tour. Thanks for watching and please share
I don't think Nate Sexton would say that "what's your sidearm disc" is a stupid question.
Nate learned sidearm from Scott
Ricky Wysocki doesn’t either. He says within the first minute of his new in the cart that he has disc he throws for BH and some for FH. m.th-cam.com/video/VMBB32GoF7k/w-d-xo.html
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The whole backhand forehand discs is a myth too, my dad can or did when he played Disc Golf more was Use a Wasp backhand/forehand one of the biggest bead non putter discs on the market. He also uses all but his Wizard forehand, the Wizard and similar discs with the same sized big bead or bigger have a hard time being gripped by a forehand due to the way the bead and convex wing is for that shot making the finger grip only on the bead. I know a bead with putters is not an issue for my dad as he can throw a Rubber Putter for a forehand approach as trying to throw more US with forehand is very difficult and then my dad will throw a Rhyno forehand when needed.
I do not throw forehand period but do the US disc for that, and I do not carry a disc for every shot in fact all but my 2 12 speed Champion Destroyer and only max distance drivers has at least 2 uses for the disc except my putting putters obviously.
The Wasp is a Mid-range man. But yeah Scott is exactly right. Thanks for watching and please share
Great ITB, but pick better music.
No thank you, I like this. As does most of our viewers