Shock As Young Crew Of Bomber Plane Pilots Discovers Their Target Is Heavily Guarded
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My grandfather's brother flew 25 missions as a B-17 pilot. I met him as a teenager on my grandfather's farm with his beautiful French wife and their two beautiful daughters. He was a brigadier general (ret.). I had admired and read about American pilots since I was little, built very many models, etc. I still remember shaking his hand. Three of his brothers had died in the war. It was an honor to stand there beside him.
My father flew 29 combat missions as lead pilot of a b24 bomber. He told me handling stress of combat was easy once you considered yourself already dead. The Eighth Air Forces losses were horrific. They had more casualties than the Marine Corpse had in the Pacific theater. He said accurate bombing was a joke. Accurate was subjective. He said that flak could bounce your plane several feet in any direction. If this happened while the drop was underway the bombs could land miles from the target depending on your altitude.
RIP Dad. Miss you.
All the crews were young. Pilots averaged 22-24 yrs old. Enlisted crew were an average of 19.
Military men do not go to the cafeteria to eat chow. They go to the mess hall.
Or they go to 'chow' or 'rats'.....we never called it the cafeteria, no.
Chow hall
Personally I myself have never watched these movies and some I have but this guy in the vid speaking it through makes it so much more entertaining
Good movie
Great that they did the same thing as other bomber movies - for the sake of the audience the crew talk to each other in the open without intercom. I’ve flown on a B-17 and you often had to yell in someones ear for them to hear you.
The B-29 with its nuclear bomb: am I a joke to you!?
My grandfather (on my dad's side) actually flew the Memphis Belle, it wasn't the famous flight, I am not really sure because my dad hasn't told me about it in a while, but my grandfather actually did fly it at some point.
You got it slightly wrong. Those were planes coming back from a bombing mission. Also slightly out of order.
Students of WW2 will know that the MB's 25th mission didn't go down like that. It is a compilation of events from different aircraft during the war. Hollyweird will always take drama over the truth.......
I watched this movie 4 times on the big screen, and bought the DVD. According to a tail gunner I knew, who was there at the same time, this is not what happened to the Belle, but everything that happened in the movie happened to somebody. They didn't have to make anything up.
What movie is this?
The movie is called Memphis Belle. It is a phenomenal movie based on a true story.
@@hoss3433 Thank you
@@ehondat It is a new version of the original made in the '40s. Not at all like the original!
@@dpeter6396 That's because the "original" wasn't a movie. It was a documentary.
we will remember them all
Allied bombings in 1943 surely didn't mind hitting population centers. It was usually the point of the bombings, like in Dresden or later Tokyo. All this smells of revision history.
This comment shows the ignorance of the people of today .
At the time accurate bombing was somewhere within 5 miles , that’s all we were capable of .
Dresden was a major distribution hub of the railways , and yes we knew there would be thousands of civilian casualties .
It’s called war
Correct, Hamburg and Dresden were only two of one hundred German cities that purposely targeted civilian areas and utterly destroyed along with hundreds of thousands civilians.
Exactly ... especially US high altitude carpet bombing. I have no doubt that the tried to hit the target ... but dropping sticks that big on a target that small ... not a chance you don't hit stuff near by
Smells...? I stinks to high heaven!
Try use some common sense. What they bombed depended on the target, obviously. Many bombing raids were specifically aimed at a factory, or industrial area. Some raids were intended to destroy the morale of the civilian population, so residential areas were hit.
Unfortunately, in that era, housing was built around factories, or factories built near housing, due to travelling to work being more difficult. Consequently, many raids on factories also meant civilian losses.
How to take the life out of what is a very good film. And yes there were no laser guided weapons in WW2!
Another great movie which give you a true insight to WWII is Enemy Below and Run Silent Run deep.
This was a great movie saw it when I was a kid
"I don't see the target so I will avoid to hit civilians by circling around and have a second try"
"Well, dropping a bunch of inert bombs from thousands of feet at hundreds of mph with a dispersal area of kilometers, it will make no difference"
"Yes, but so will I tell it to my grandchildren, in movie and history books".
US bombed from high altitude and aiming proved ineffective. GB bombed from lower altitude but by night and aiming (through pathfinders dropping light rockets) proved ineffective.
Actually, compared to the cost and losses, strategic bombing as a whole proved rather ineffective. It did not weakened the will to fight of the Germans, it destroyed factories but not the machinery into them, that went under shelter, and was at its full force when the war was nearly won, so that in late 1944 there was no major target to bomb and even small towns were erased meaningless.
Only the bombing of the fuel infrastructure did a difference, but occurred very late in the war.
Germans when accused of war crimes pointed out that unnecessary bombing of cities could have been one - then were retorted that they started this, on Guernica, Amsterdam, Coventry, London.
German pilots were far more professional and efficient in performance.... But they had no chance due to limited resources and low fighter production
Like so many other Hollywood movies, so called based on true events this was not the story of the last mission of the Bell but a Kolodge of many B-17 bombers events and stories. The Bell's final mission was pretty much a normal mission for the bomber and crew. One of the Waist gunners was credited with a German fighter during the mission. The Bell arrived back at the base pretty much un--scaved and did end up back home in the states along with it's crew. I was privileged to see the Capitan of the Memphis bell at Willow Run airport signing a book he wrote in honor of his crew and the Memphis Bell. Note Private Ryan is a similar Hollywood movie rolling many events by many soldiers into one group of soldiers into a single mission. Want a true insight as to the Bomber war over Europe see the Movie '12 O' clock High, with Gregory Peck.
She's a legend,the courage and bravery of those crews, the risk, uncertainties, hero's, selfless, freedom from tyranny,,we owe them!
yes Sir! The freedom of death! today, after 75years after the War we found every months one or two of they gifts of freedom in the ground. Because the long time igniter dosen't work! Thanks!
Great movie
great movie
A cafeteria in the army? It’s called a mess hall.
Interesting stuff
Actually the real realeased film of this is in 1990 not 1988.
This reminded me of bomber crew
After the last mission, the military usually comes up and says, "Um...we're gonna need you to fly 10 more missions."
Back then, they took you home, carted you around to big cities to sell war bonds, then made you train new crews in the states. They tried not to let crew go back into action out if fear that their death would be propaganda material. Some did manage to transfer around. Some pilots from the European theater retrained on the B-29 and went on to fly in the Pacific.
Catch 22.......
My Man got most of the recap wrong, First of all they aren’t new planes coming in instead they are homecoming planes that been through a mission, the plane that exploded that you called malfunctioning was true but It wasn’t a malfunction from a delivery. Next the guy in 1:41 is not Luke but Phil
didn't come to listen to some narrator drone on for 11 minutes....didn't stay for more that 15 seconds and the time it took to leave comment.
The B 17 did carpet bombing and could not bomb such a target as a factory in a town without bombing houses.
Not true. It depended on the target. Factory sheds in daylight were not that hard to hit, although there were plenty of misses too.
The whole idea of daylight bombing was to be able to see the target and limit collateral damage. It usually didn't work that way, but that was the design of the missions. Carpet bombing was generally done by medium bombers against tactical targets.
It wasn't the pilot who fell out of that plane.
This movie was great.
could be a night mare if Germans were using cannons, it could take heavy damage
Bremen was one of my favorite cites when I was stationed in Germany in the 1970s.
agreed...I was at Garlstedt in '79
This film is Hollywood history, not real history.
Read the book "The Bomber Boys". It explains the origins of "strategic" bombing. A response to the bloodbath of the western front of WW1.
What is the name of the movie?
Memphis Belle
One last mission…. Not a good sign if you’re in a movie.
My name was Yosarian and that’s not how it was. Read my buddy Heller’s book.
The real story. They returned to England with all four engines turning, very little damage with one crewmember slightly wounded. They did a flybye before circling the field to land. The landing gear came down uneventfully. Hollywood just can't help themselves.
You want to hear about a real amazing story? James Howard, Jan 11, 1944. Ding Hao!
what i heard was the worst part is that the 2nd pilot had huge gas and was stinkin up the plane
Woah First?
That would be more likely the bombardier that fell out, manning the nose gun, but let's go..
Wouldn't the bombardier be rear of the cockpit? They have their own flight controls separate from the pilots. This would allow the plane to fly by the bombardiers controls I believe. That definitely would have taken out the flight crew in this clip shown. I'm not for sure, but that is what it looks like to me. Believe me, I've been wrong many , many, many times. I'm sure a Hollywood movie got it right.
@alphatrion4020 not at this time, he would be in the nose gun 50cal position. They're not on the bomb run yet, they are engaged with fighters, which normally pull off when the AA starts when they are approaching the target he falls back to take over the aircraft to direct it right over the intended target, drop ordnance and turn it back over the pilots to get out of there, he then would return to his guns, good question though, im looking at it now frozen and you can see the guys ripping apart. Check out a diagram of the plane, it's easier to see.
@@rockymountainlifeprospecti4423 yeah you're right, in the B-17 he was forward of the pilot along with the navigator. The only time is the navigator in a B-29, but the bombardier is still forward then also.
Too bad they didn't make a movie about the first B17 plane and crew to complete 25 missions The Hells Angels
Bombs away ?
What is the name of full movie please?
Memphis Belle.
Recap in minutes you only do military soldier movies
FYI no one cared about bombing civilian targets.. Bremen was blown to bits.
Poorly narrated. Got lots of facts wrong. Such as calling these new planes when in fact they were just the planes returning from a bombing mission. What's going on with these fake historical narratives? They use a crummy machine voice and they get so many facts wrong. Don't they bother to proofread or even have an editor review the product before posting it? Overall, I'd give it a C-.
This is the kind of movie you watch only once and forget about. That's the problem: it looks and sounds like a great movie but then, it's just a typical WW2 movie. Yes, it's based on a true story but there were a LOT of bomber crews who did their 25 missions and were allowed to retire. In the end, I walked out of the movie theater feeling just: meh. It felt like something that had been copied from just about every war movie out there and the characters were forgettable. On a scale of 1 to 10, I rate it a 5. It's nothing to write home about.
The documentary made at the time is a better movie.
Robot voice? Out of here….