2 Inch 2s is Gaining Momentum // Outside and Inside Flights // Meteor85 WalkSnail Edition
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- This big baddy got the yard and the house treatment. Surprised I didn't break it.
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Who all have taken the challenge or tried 2inch 2s inside your home? Or another inside space. Please let me know, if you have and what type of inside space.
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Is it Props out?
@@johannesnacpil7342 yes
Gonna upload some vids when my M75-WS shows up next week. Certainly not as much room indoors as in your videos, but doorways are doorways!
Not me lol, you're a beast inside!
Do you think Defiancerc is a reputable company
Absolutely killing it on the sticks!! Awesome flights - thanks as always!
Thank you
What a awesome video. Getting into the HD game. Picked up the recons and that whoop. Super excited. Good stuff.🇨🇦👊
Yes! Been waiting for this Nick. 👍👍
You make flying look so easy, I love it! I've only ventured into 75mm 2s and I prefer it outside. But then again in February this year I could barely make it across the Livingroom in my condo. 85mm for me would be an outside quad for sure, just not this time of the year here. Decent looking HD footage out of it all things considered. I do find BetaFPV quads to be a little heavier, but those frames are solid so decent trade off for me and I kinda like the decorative pieces. Good to see video options are starting to look like rx options. Most popular BNF's seem to be in a Analog, Walksnail and HDZero version with all the normal radio selections and DJI for the bigger ones. Thanks for putting these videos together for us, keep warm!
2s whoop 75mm is a nice progression, probably after we have 1s down somewhat well. Flying inside is very unforgiving, inside space design can make it a bit easier.
I've flown 2s 85mm inside, but it's slow exploratory only. That's a bit too much power for my skill level to let loose and go plaid. In my opinion, 2s 85mm is the ideal combo for outdoor whoop flying. Having taken these BetaFPV frames through the crashes of several seasons of IGOW, I'll say they are a lot more durable than the 65 & 75mm frames even in the cold. Plus, if you want even more durability they have the carbon fiber cross brace you can add underneath if you don't mind the extra couple grams of weight. Just realized while typing, my profile picture is still set to one of my favorite 2s 85mm builds. I have found the Gemfan 2023 triblade props to be my personal favorite for this size, and have cut the battery holder off to just go with a battery strap for 300-650 mah batteries depending on what type of flight I'm going for. Right now I'm debating whether to use my first 1s avatar board from the VRX preorder for a 2s 85mm whoop or a 3s 3" toothpick. Either way should be a lot of fun!
th-cam.com/video/bOMeT4X7crM/w-d-xo.html
I agree about the 2023 triblades, I just got the meteor85, analog edition, 44g!!!! I was having weird bobbles at full throttle toward the middle of the battery life I had left, and it would just act weird after 1:00 of flying. All I did was swap to those triblades, and I got a little extra flight time, about 3:45 with the camera angle at full tilt, and fighting the wind. Oh, using a gnb 450mah battery. I snipped out those little braces in the meteor85 frame to fit better batteries than the betafpv batteries. I use rdq 525, rdq 650 even fits. But my favorite are the gnb 450mah, 100c batteries. I'm OK with 20 seconds less flight, with much more agility.
Please review the Odonata HD from craftedkwads!
I'd love to send you one, nick!
Yes!! I've been saying the 2s 2" is probably the best experience and size quads. Great balance of portability and capability.
3s 3in toothpicks are even better.
@@rp479 Right in the middle, 2s 3" toothpick.
@@HeavyPick if your board can handle 3s, just set a throttle limit output of like 75-80% for when you plug a 3s in. You’ll get like an extra minute or two of flight time with even more performance.
Awesome flying and review, Nick! 😃
I wonder how it would behave with 3 bladed props!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Wow, amazing flying there!!!!
Thank you
Looks so fun 🤩.. miss the 85x pro 2 or whatever, was one of the most fun little things for inside or outside.
Well, you asked. I've been flying a 2"/2S King Kong/LDARC ET100 in a 20' x 20' one-bedroom apartment, since 2018. I've modded it with 1104 motors and Gemfan D51 props, and I run BetaFlight 4.3.2 and Bluejay 0.16 firmware. I use 450 mAh packs, and I have tuned it to make it very safe platform. And finally, I fly in Angle mode exclusively - no real room for any other way, I found.
Great review as always!
88mm = 3.46”
Just ordered mine from a locally and veteran owned drone shop in Texas 🇺🇸 so excited for my Bind and Fly with Walksnail Avatar ELRS
I've got a few Odonata HD frames
recently.
they are super fun to fly!
sweet little drone
Dude you definitely need to nail the stair dive. It’s a great test for almost any of the drones you take indoors
Hi Nick Great video and review of the Meteor 85, I could never expect to be able to fly an 85mm whoop 2s in my house. It's small, lol, that's OK I love flying outside. I have been thinking about building a new 2s 2 or 3in quad, I think I might just get a BNF, Thanks again for the video and information about this quad
Thanks nick 👍
really pushing it with those lines, seem like fun to race
Okay, you’ve sold me on the whoops now! That little dude rips! I want one now. Thanks for the content.
Oh nice. Take a look around you may find another whoop to your liking. :)
The rip you did indoor was 🤯
That washout almost looked like demag. I just got this quad with Walksnail and mine seems to be about 50.95g and I calibrated using a 50g calibration weight to be sure. My DJI Firefly Nano baby 20 weighs 41-42g without battery and indoors it feels like much more of a handful then this does. Might be tune/power difference but I feel more confident with this indoors. Just wish the Walksnail goggles didn't suck so bad. The eye holes are so tiny compared to my DJI V2's and they have some kind of chromatic aberration but the eye hole size is the biggest issue IMO. Mine came with pack from RDQ for $185 and Tattu 2s 450 95C HV's fit just as well as the stock pack maybe a little better.
Thanks, Nick. In a relatively short span of time, we went from analog to three digital systems; closed source to open source; and ELRS (putting color flags on the tip of the radio antenna seemed eons ago). Wonder what the next evolution/revolution is brewing.
yes it has been a fast evolving time. I wonder if battery tech is next, or maybe even motors, they haven't changed all that much.
@@NickBurnsFPVI know it’s not your thing but dark lithium has been making 18650 and 22700 lithium batteries for long range quads.
Looks like they might even make some for freestyle. Could be the future of quad battery tech? Maybe worth a video. Would love your opinion.
@@rp479 If they are lithium ion or other slow discharge cells they won't likely be all that viable. We need the high discharge rate for speed and quick maneuvers.
@@NickBurnsFPV this new company claims to have higher discharge rate li-ions. Might be worth looking into.
2-3s whoop, toothpick 2in.prop still some my favorite
Love the 85mm whoop format, you can really fly aggressively outdoors. Mine is a lot lighter but it is an analog build.
Cheers mate
yes, 85mm is much better than the smaller counter parts, but also not as indoor friendly.
My dog would be going nuts with indoor flying lol
Some animals sure don't like it while others are less impacted. We had a cat that could care less. :)
Hi Nick, i watched your other video of the meteor75 walksnail edition, you mentioned that the vtx might have some test footage by the betafpv team, well, i’ve posted my comments in the meteor85 video because that’s what i got, and it does not have any test footage but what surprised me is the 32GB built-in storage of the walksnail 1s vtx which i haven’t heard off.
oh interesting they went with the pro version of the vtx. It likely has gyroscopic data as well?
@@NickBurnsFPV oh, that’s a good idea, i would have to try to swap the camera and try.
Nice power hd whoop!
its nice to see 2inch and 2s, it performs well imho
waiting forever for a 2S BNF whoop... just when i let go my analog gear for a dji fpv combo, this came out... 🙈🙈🙈
Batteries can be shipped by air if they are included and WITHIN the product. Within can be considered just within the packaging.
I've shipped 16x 2.5kg LiPo packs by airfreight. Took 2 days from UK to Africa. Not sure how that was legal.. but eh.. would it be my fault or the couriers fault if anything happens?
Thanks Nick, I bought x2 meteor85 on the black friday sales analogue versions... I havent seen many videos on it yet I hope it rips..
It should have more performance than the WS edition, less weight more performance, agility and flight time.
How much did you get the meteor85 analogue on Black Friday for ? I’m eyeing the elrs version
@@carlosr.2027 15% off so 93.5 usd it's still a good price aside including a battery. It doe need better camera protection.. I've scratched my lense already...
Good quad...I will wait for mobula 8 2S.
ha, just launched that video today.
MEL BROOKS!!!!!!!!!!
Nice xj
For just backyard ripping and letting my dogs chase it around, would you find this to be better or a foxeer foxwhoop 25 HDZero?
foxwhoop is going to be more durable, but also likely has more potential to hurt the dogs...bigger, heavier and 4s.
I like it. I bet a Meteor95 is just around the corner.
This nearly is, I was thinking they might be doing something along the line of a 2.5inch prop, probably 105mm or a touch more.
@Nick Burns Yeah, the old Beta95X was a 2 1/2". I still enjoy flying mine around the yard. Take care and have a Merry Christmas!
Great review Nick. How do the GNB 450's fit? Tight or loose? I have the GNB's already and would like to use those.
so tight I didn't get any of those in the battery tray.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick. Do you think the tray could be expanded using a blow dryer?
@@mikelewis2269 commonly yes, of course if the blow dryer doesn't get all that hot it might either take a long time to soften it, or not at all.
I'm new to fpv and already fell in love with it. Love watching these videos. What is your favorite 2s drone out this year? I want something with agility but 4 minute+ flight time.
there hasn't been a lot this year in the 2s quad market. This and the flywoo nano baby 20. Both have walksnail, anaglog, hdzero etc options. For bnf I think those are the best two.
@@NickBurnsFPV awesome... you've been helpful I'm going to check those out and compare. Keep the vids coming!
@@cold-frontin_penguin7902 great. Let me know if other questions pop up.
@@NickBurnsFPV I actually do haha. Would you choose this over the Darwin Tiny Ape?
@@cold-frontin_penguin7902 I wouldn't as this can be flown outside and inside, vs the tiny ape is really outside only. I think the performance of this might be slightly more than the tiny ape as well.
Nick ,I've been out of fpv for sometime and I'm looking to get back in . Are you using DJI ,the video quality looks better then my fatsharks..
This is a new video system from caddx called Walksnail. It does require new goggles or the walksnail vrx which attached to analog googles via hdmi, but that vrx is still pre order.
Are you showing the onboard DVR footage or goggle DVR? I also am curious about walksnail goggle DVR and how the OSD looks when you are flying?
This is vtx dvr. This is the video I did comparing goggle dvr vs vtx dvr th-cam.com/video/zX4qS_s0E1o/w-d-xo.html The osd is limited to the extents of a 4:3 image, but otherwise looks as we would expect in the goggles. I believe right now the recording only plays back the betaflight osd in the goggles. Once we remove the files from the goggles they are a osd file we then have to add back to the video in editing. I haven't done that yet.
@@NickBurnsFPV why so much smearing if it's onboard vtx dvr? That's od
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Maybe its youtube doing some compression. Here is the flight, after adobe premier processing. drive.google.com/file/d/1jGs1r-PTGb2kWdGs9kN-34q1Ok7QNUVI/view?usp=sharing
A wild fractal 65 sighting, tell me more!
lol, ya know I nearly swapped it out for a traditional 65mm, and I even called it a "traditional 65mm". Brain cramp I guess.
There is also meteor 65 pro
Nick, looks to fly a little heavy. Try the GNB 380 yellow or GNB black and red 300, that is what most of my outdoor IGOW3 flights were on. Keeps the quad lighter and the 380 may outperform that BetaFPV 450 battery in longevity as well.
a little heavy compared to non whoop 2inch 2s?
@@NickBurnsFPV no compared to my heavier analog 2s 85mm whoop (42.4g and 63.8 with a battery) the one whoop that actually survived IGOW3 without breaking.
@@trajanfpv ah gotach. I do think this canopy is a nice design but at the cost of more weight. That is about the only spot I can see to lose some weight of this, well and staying with WS.
@@NickBurnsFPV yea, it is what it is. Try the lighter batteries from GNB or maybe the NewBee Drone one?
@@trajanfpv The NBD 2s 300mah with gnb27 connectors? I do have a few of those
I love 2s2inch. Sad thing not many frame with 3 hole
maybe 2023 will be the year of all sort of options.
@@NickBurnsFPV love that optimism, or is it insider knowledge? 🤞👍
Really need a new frame for my uz85!
@@ragndroneman lol not inside knowledge.
Nick please help me out bud I have been wanting the hdzero gogs but I didn't like the brake up but I want hd should I go fatshark hd dominator or wait for walksnail????? Please help me out bro
I don't understand. Fatshark dominator is for the walksnail video system. If you want hd and micros and don't like hdzero that leaves walksnail.
BetaFPV. Have they corrected their quality problems yet? Love your videos Nick!
I can't be sure, my experience doesn't necessarily count.
@@NickBurnsFPV Well, if you got more than 12 flights on that bad boy I'd say things are looking much better!
What quality problems? They've been the most reliable and durable whoops I've bought for several years.
@@QuadFlyer68 12 outside. Inside probably more like 25-30. About half of those with the stock batteries, I only have 4 betafpv 2s 450mah
Sorry, I posted a response but it was removed (maybe because I included an RCG link). To summarize I tried two new Beta85 pros from RDQ and both only lasted 12 or so flights before the FCs died. Like fine for one flight, change lipos and nothing. It’s okay I ended up getting a Mob6 instead and it’s got over 600 flights now :)
I realize that they removed the carbon plate found on the older version. Is the frame more stiff than before? That may be why you got that yaw washout...
I don't have the old style with carbon brace to compare it to :(
The carbon brace on the old version was for the 3-4s version. The 2s version did not have a carbon brace from the factory.
I just look for BetaFPV Meteor65 but analog.This is too fast for inside,but for you is too easy :)
And crazy beginner pilots fly like this. Only you do it without crashing 😜
Not even me. I crashed twice in that flight and had two very close crashes.
Slightly annoyed by how specific that battery tray is, considering I do not like Betafpv's batteries. I do enjoy their whoops though. I nabbed a replacement Meteor75 Analog on Black Friday as I did terrible things to my previous one and it now only does flips, from the ground. Haven't jumped on the Betafpv Walksnail train yet though. Once I get the VRX and see how that goes, I'll likely be looking at them again. Nick, how noticeable is the compression in the goggles when you are flying (for the outdoors video) It just looked a lot worse than the indoors one for some reason, probably all the finer materials like branches and such, but I couldn't quite tell...
When I am flying I don't notice the difference, but do see it on play back on the computer. I think it improved with the last update but really hard to say how much, 10%, 20% I can't say.
@@NickBurnsFPV Okay cool, that's good to hear. I get hung up on it since it's from such a divorced perspective and I've not actually seen it for myself, yet. Hopefully soon though, at least the drone's shipped, fingers crossed on the vrx.
@@Latchfpv Here is the outside flight, after adobe premier processing. This would eliminate youtube's processing as a variable. drive.google.com/file/d/1jGs1r-PTGb2kWdGs9kN-34q1Ok7QNUVI/view?usp=sharing
@@NickBurnsFPV Cheers for that Nick, appreciated, esp since you didn't have. That does look a lot better, TH-cam did not do it any favours. Esp when accounting for goggles, that would look quite awesome. Quite exciting.
Hmmmm, maybe those components on the TKS Starlord frame…
I have a starlord built with HDZero, WS should work as well.
I like brushed motor whoops better for the indoor flying around the house.
I do see some videos from time to time of the good ole brushed whoops. Where do you get your motors? TinyWhoop?
@@NickBurnsFPV I like the newbeedrone Unicorn Edition 6mm brushed motors.
Also nick I wanna build my old mobila7elrs with a good board whats your rec....I would appreciate it man
I believe that has the x12 board in it which is a good board imho. Another micro aio would be the flywoo versatile f405 this one doesn't have motor connectors.
would a pusher version of this frame race good?
I don't see many actual whoop racers (which I am not) flying pushers. I suspect there is a reason for that, but I am not sure what it is. Myself I am not a fan of pushers, I don't feel or notice any of the often talked about benefits of stability and efficiency.
This is the newer 1s vtx version?
no, those haven't shipped yet.
I bought one of these, I'm wanting to buy more batteries, I saw many options, but I was afraid to buy it because of their discharge rate, I saw it with 75,90,100 and I was thinking, can I use it in this fpv, then I haven't bought it yet, the discharge rate does not interfere, the higher the better? yours is 90c, correct?
C rating only matters if comparing with in the brand. C rating isn't a standard unit of measurement in fpv/drone batteries. The c rating doesn't have an impact of if it can be used on one quad or another. The cell count of a battery or the overall voltage of a battery does determine if it can be used on one drone/quad or another.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you very much, it helped a lot, I'm going to buy the ones I found
I'm a bit lost on how to bind this ELRS to my Radiomaster Zorro. Is there any documentation or procedure to follow?
this should help support.betafpv.com/hc/en-us/articles/4403742839705-How-to-Bind-with-F4-Betaflight-FC-SPI-ExpressLRS-Receiver-
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for your answer I still don't know What I'm doing wrong... I managed to bind it with ELRS 3 with a Betaflight Release Candidate but for some reason, the OSD on the goggles disappeared. What's the Betaflight ELRS version I have to flash my Radio to bind the drone?.
These SPI receivers are more complicated I guess, I was able to Bind Meteor 75 with no problem But this one is complicated.
@@DanielBarrios83 The version needs to match both on radio and quad. with AIO/spi elrx rx the version isn't readily available its buried inside the betaflight version. I hope you have a cli dump of the original betaflight as that as the pids for the quad to fly well. This document covers elrs spi binding at a typed level. www.expresslrs.org/2.0/hardware/spi-receivers/ It might be worth using a binding phrase as that is automatic binding.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the answer... I'll let you know how it went
@@NickBurnsFPV Finally I managed to bind it... For some reason Betaflight firmware version 4.3.2 is not able to bind to my TX, however, I downgraded to 4.3.1 and It did the job... Not sure if there's something wrong with that release. Again Thanks
I got my Meteor 85 Walksnail. VTX is okay but I am having very bad ELRS rxloss at 20 meter. I swapped FC with another Analog Meteor 85. Once connected to Avatar VTX, I am seeing same rxloss issue. Not sure if I am missing any config.
Is this 20meter with line of sight or objects between? Maybe see about grabbing a cli dump from the happymodel.cn website and see if there is any configuration difference.
@@NickBurnsFPV LOS. I will take a look at cli like you suggest. Thanks
I bought another quad. This time I didn't update anything on quad except bind phrase. I downgraded my tx to elrs 2.x. And.. same issue. Starting RSSI is -60 and became -70+ at 15 meter and RXloss at LOS.
the recording is having audio...so it has mic on the vtx??
No. The audio is part of post processing with a secondary source.
@@NickBurnsFPV ahh ok2...tq sir
Hey I got that drone recently... and I'm very curious about your rates... Can you pls share your rates?
My rates are covered here th-cam.com/video/llpHcWQx8q8/w-d-xo.html
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks
From 75mm on, you can make the AUW the same in 1s and 2s, but torque is twice as much , so to my eyes, there is no point in going 1s on a 75mm.
Nowadays, with the added weight of hd systems, it should be the way to go on any whoop size, but for some reason, it is not the case...
Just a guess, more like 1s. 1s quads of many types had a big run about 3 years go. And most of the companies that make micro motors are making 1s motors 3 to 1.
Hey you went up stairs 😂
yes, three failed split s attempts. I did get it a time or two but not in that flight. Needs more work
I just got one of these and the goggles X to try walksnail for the first time after only analog. The vtx overheated and I lost it on the first flight a few hours ago. I searched for it but the area cover with rocks and shrubs and far away. I got bold and went too far and then the VTX just shut off. Also it was very annoying to set up the ELRS version as I had never encountered SPI before and Betafpv gives you no instructions or help. It seems you are just expected to know what to do with this stuff without anyone telling you. Oh well. My first big fpv loss. Wont be the last I am sure.
This is the second time I have hear about the vtx overheating and in this case shutting down. I note the beta software/firmware update should solve that issue. Sorry on your loss, that stinks big time. Was it warm out or the goggles on for a long time? Not trying to blame just gathering information
@@NickBurnsFPV Well it was first flight with both the quad and the goggles so it took me a few minutes settings thing up in the menu. So when I took off it already said "vtx overheating 90". I thought flying fast would cool it down so I flew fast and got far away but I never saw the 90 change the entire time and then poof, signal gone. It was 80 degrees out.
@@Bill_Bo So it must have been the goggle internal vrx that overheated?
@@NickBurnsFPV I don't think the goggles overheated. I learned a lot from this experience, though. Next time I will react more quickly and do the right things to have better chance of recovery. Also I won't fly far or in a bad recovery spot on the first flight. Really dumb!
I had another WS quad I tried after that. I took off with "overheating 109" but it cooled off in a few seconds of flight. I then had about a half second dropout when I went behind a building and I crashed. Most of the time I was getting a smearing effect that I could still fly through. Could be goggles X problem. Never used WS before yesterday so I have no experience.
The way it dropped out was bad. It wasn't like the image was getting progressively worse and then it dropped. No, it looked clear and then just gone. I reported it to caddx in case others are also getting it. I will try to repeat it today to record a video.
@@Bill_Bo Yes, please let me know what you find. Might have to email me as youtube will block links posted in comments. nickburnsrc@gmail.com Normally when the signal is weak I see the red outline around the image. Did yours show that?
I think I'd be Larry Lester.. Someone has to be Larry Lester..
I wonder where Larry Lester is today? I would like to think that he got thru that traumatic experience with his dignity intact.. Refused to let it define him and is a happy and successful man today. I guess we'll never know.
I nearly forgot about him
@@NickBurnsFPV remember Andrew telling the story to th rest of the gang about participating in a hazimg mcdiemt where they su t taped Larry Lester's butt cheeks together. We must never forget Larry Lester. So that a tragedy of su h proportions shiukd never occur again. Lol hey now that I got your attention.. I wanna make an hd whoop.. Somehtng smaller than my taycan 2.5.... I have a ton of frames. From meteor 65 to betafpv 85x, hx 100 etc etc. What do you recommend that would comfortably carry a naked Vista, and what size motors.. It'd be for front yard/backyard freestyle..
When we go plaid we sometimes get wanged - Nick Burns
lol, yes we do.
@@NickBurnsFPV I'd buy that Tshirt😃
Only Reddit pilots fly like this on their first FPV flight 🤭
lol, what reddit thread is that?
@@NickBurnsFPV Most of the FPV related, they have people going full acro on their first flight and others are on their fourth commercial job after flying FPV for a month because they, in their own words, are naturally talented and apparently anyone questioning them is jealous, wrong and an idiot. Now, I don’t argue about the idiot part but nobody in this hobby flies commercially four times within their first month in the hobby 😂
@@pirateradioFPV I guess the flight might be less important if one has all the video editing skills to correct for the lack of experience.
This size is fun inside and outside!
Throwing shade?
I'd be more interested to know how many other people have seen Breakfast Club. Although I do get the feeling that the quadcopter community has quite a high average age. For the record, I'd probably be a weird Brian/Andrew crossbreed XD
lol. That could be an interesting poll. If we trust youtube analytics 58% are 35 or older I wouldn't expect a high number of those under 40 have seen the movie
@@NickBurnsFPV I don't think I've met anyone under 40 who didn't think it was the name of a cereal or some such lol
So -
In addition to all the girls in the Niagara Falls area that you are banging -
Currently - you and Claire are riding the hobby horse???
Were you or were you not motioning to Claire? 🤣
I would have been a John Bender, or a Basket Case 😘
Great review! The Meteor75 HDZero ELRS is what I'm headed for.....
lol so many good lines in that movie.
Kind of a Brain.
I’m not a fan of the Meteor85. It’s due for a makeover. That thing’s a monstrosity imo. I mean, at least put a black antenna, or why not use their grey frame instead since the new 75 is black. But yea, the frame and canopy were designed in the 1980s.. I don’t understand why 65mm gets all the colors and 75mm and 85mm are clunky black.
That said, I agree that 2S is definitely the new 1S because of HD.
Edit: just looked at their site and they use the grey frame and colored canopy/matching props for the analog version. Still think more colors and an updated design would be nice. The knight helmet and other cosmetic things looks childish. These do look like toys, but it’s mainly adults that are buying these things. I wish they would shift towards a more professional look and practical things like weight than putting cat ears on their drone frames.
BetaFPV's tech support and customer service are terrible, at least from my experience with them and a meteor65x New Bee Drone sold me. Their elrs rx's work ok. Wont buy any of their quads again. I get things dont work out of the box, bnf or not, but shit, return a email.
That is rough when we can't even get a communication chain going. Sorry the experience with them was so aweful. I do hear this from time to time.
That's essentially a 90mm ... 89, so too big and powerful for inside. Sure, you can fly it inside, but 90% of us, not too good.
What a bummer about that battery bay only fitting those crappy BetaFPV lipos. They have a reputation for making bad lipos. Typical BetaFPV would make it fit theirs only! 🤷🙄