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Another interesting topic HC, madness or eccentric I'd say totaly bonkers in my view it must have been confusing to some at the time, thanks HC for another gem. ☺️
You gave some misinformation. King Edward VIII was known as David. His brother Albert, who was first the Duke of York and then George VI, was known as Bertie. Queen Victoria enacted a law that prohibited any future kings to be named "Albert".
In the example I'm thinking of (cause that was a real example I gave above), I've been friends with the person for many years and only once have I arrived late and even then it was only 5 minutes after the meet up time. Of course it was virtually the ONLY instance they've ever shown up on time, because the universe is a perverse, unfair place. This person then turned around to me and laughingly said words to the effect of 'That makes me feel better about being late sometimes'. I nearly killed them (bear in mind that even at that point, they were probably 10 hours in my debt if you totted up all the time I've spent waiting for them).
Yes, if the show had started in the 1930s with G5's death and then the abdication crisis they definitely could have included it. It's a shame it didn't actually. I know it was about Queen Elizabeth's life, but she was around then and it could have covered her later childhood and WW2.
@@HistoryCallingI wish Peter Morgan and Netflix would consider a prequel series with that, or at least a movie that covers the last years of her life.
👏👏 Well, at least we can say Edward VIII did one worthwhile thing getting rid of this bit of entitlement. I know the passage of time is inexorable, but my personal timeline shifted when I met Lena thirty years ago.The song from "My Fair Lady" still bounces around in my brain box: "Let the time go by/ I don't care if I/ Can be here on the street where you live." Thanks for this, HC.
This was also completely unknown to me. Thank you, I love these kinds of strange facts. And thank you also for not taking the world of royals and all their eccentric habits too seriously.
HC, you are having so much fun with these delightful bits of historical trivia. I can't get enough of them! Such a delight on a cool and rainy Monday over here in Oregon (which btw has recently had its own issues with time zones). I'm sure the late Queen's father would have put a stop to it during the war if her Uncle David had not already done so, and being such a practical person herself, she would have had no time for Sandringham time. A special clock setting for the hunting lodge is a self-indulgence that no royal would dream of today. Come to think of it, though, the King's brother IS rather prone to self-indulgence, if you'll excuse the expression.
Yes, it's nice to look at little bits and bobs like this and the toilet of doom from last week. It's a break from the Tudors and the short videos can of course be put together much faster. Yes, I've had other people talking about the craziness that ensues in places like the States that have multiple time zones. I'm glad the UK and Ireland are all in one zone. We don't even realise how lucky we are! 😀 As for Prince Andrew, at some point he really is going to have to move out of Royal Lodge. It's ridiculously expensive and he and Fergie simply do not need all that space, nor do they have the money to pay for it. It's not like Frogmore Cottage is even a cottage. It's a mini mansion all by itself.
According to my Bing search, "taking time by the forelock" means… “To act decisively; to accept an opportunity without hesitation. If time is pictured with just a forelock of hair, then it can only be grabbed as it comes toward you, not as it leaves.”
Hello HC! I had absolutely no idea about this little quirk, only in the British Royal family would something like this happen! It's quite funny to think of it now, but can imagine all the royal household running about to make sure that everything ran smoothly?! It did tickle me! Thank you for ɓringing this little nugget to our attention, I loved it! 😂❤
Yes, it's not one of their better known eccentricities, but I've always found it quite interesting, even if I do think it was a daft idea to put a single house and estate on a separate time zone. Glad you enjoyed it 😀
😆 timey wimy. We have a whovian David tennat fan . Bravo. ( doctor who) I really loved the episode with eve myles as madam de pompadour. Such a beautiful story .
Absolutely. Tennant and Smith are my favourites (though I'm enjoying Gatwa too). Personal favourite episode is Blink which I rewatched just a few days ago, but I love the Girl in the Fireplace too (though the ending is sad). Sophia Myles though, right? I think you're thinking of the brilliant Eve Myles of Torchwood fame (though she did a little bit of Doctor Who as well).
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Loved this topic HC. Did not know Sandringham time was a thing. That’s why I watch HC. In the middle of Tudor history or Typhoid Mary we get a king who had a hunting thing. LOVE your channel!
Thank you very much (and thank you for showing typhoid Mary some love - that video didn't turn out to be very popular, even though it's American history and about half my viewers are American!)
What a crazy idea! Excuse me, an “eccentric” idea! I don’t know if it’s just me, but I swear I could hear you rolling your eyes over some of these facts. 😂 Great video, as always, and thanks for keeping me company during my dinner tonight! Looking forward to your next video!
I roll my eyes at a lot of things I read about in history. Still, one of the things I've always loved about the topic is the variety, so I can't complain overall. 😀
I think one advantage for Edward was the chance to celebrate New Year's in a local village and then dash back for a second celebration a half hour later.
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? How is the weather where you are? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We have beautiful weather here in Ontario Canada. In the next video in the future. Could you do King Richard the first. King of England from the 11 th century. Have a great day see you next video 😊 Benjamin my cat and I both enjoy watching your live history videos 😊
Thank you. Yes, I actually didn't mean to have two short ones back to back like this, but I reordered some of my videos and it just ended up this way. Anyways, glad you enjoyed it 😀
Yeah, I mean what would I make videos about if royals in general didn't provide so much material? I'm grateful to them really for doing so much crazy stuff over the centuries 😂
I had never even heard of it. As usual an excellent exposition of it.Thank you It is interesting to hear that even though the British royal family has their own eccentricities.British people are very strict when it comes to punctuality.They make a great effort to be on time, and it is considered to be impolite to be late, even a few minutes.
Another good one History Calling! It would be fun if you could do something on Habsburg inbreeding in the 16th and 17th centuries. It's really fascinating once you start looking at the degree of inter-marriage. I always feel so sorry for Charles II of Spain, the ultimate end product of this grim process. I suspect you would enjoy the research and produce something viewers would really enjoy. Many thanks.
Definitely eccentric, but it made for a very interesting anecdote. I didn’t know the Queen had bought Sandringham for Prince Edward either. Thank you HC for an entertaining bit of history.
As you said a short one but extremely fascinating. I also thought "So Edward DID do something sensible and not self serving." and was not surprised to see others had the same thoughts. Of course it could be argued that bEdward was still being self serving as he hated the disruption caused by the mini time zone created by Sandringham time.
As someone who hates silly time zones almost as much as Edward VIII, I find this very illustrative of why people goof around with daylight savings and such. Don’t know why people can’t just change the workday to start an hour later or earlier, with the season. In Edward VII’s defense, that people would consider good daylight hunting hours ‘unsociable’ is pretty aggravating. That these concerns went away because they called the time something different…well, that’s daylight savings time for you. Good on you, Edward VIII.
Yes, I agree that an alternative to DST would indeed be to start work and schools an hour later in the winter. I suppose the challenge would be getting everyone to do it. The hours of 9-5 are so ingrained now (at least in the British psyche) that getting people to do 10-6 might be hard and lead to problems if some jobs still demanded you start at 9, but your kids' school doesn't open til 10. It's a bit of a conundrum.
Same in the US. And I suspect there may be legal factors and regulations that relate to the 9-5 based schedule, and so legally it actually is easier to change the clocks. I’ll still complain about the idea of daylight savings time. Thanks for making a great video, it was a fascinating story!
As someone who lives and works in two different US states, one of which observes Daylight Savings Time and the other which does not, that underlying doubt regarding what time it actually is, is REAL. "What time is it?" becomes a surprisingly complicated question, and God forbid that I have to provide someone with a time for something (appointment, etc.). There are SO many questions: What am I doing? Where am I? Where is the location of whatever we need a time for happening? What time zone is the other person(s) likely expecting that we're using? Daylight Time is a fairly antiquated concept that I would be ecstatic to see go by the wayside, but that is a whole 'nother video.
Thank you. I've always wondered how people manage when they live and work in different zones and you're the first one I think I've come across that this applies to. I wondered it maybe you all just get used to it and make the mental switch in your head everyday without problem, but it's interesting to hear that it's actually a nightmare, even if you've had years of it. You have my sympathy. I don't mind DST as much, but I think that's because the UK and Ireland are all in one time zone and so we all switch together.
Hello HC 👋, OMG!!! At least KIng Edward VIII did something about that craziness. I've got friends and family who this time zone wouldn't work for at all. Some people just think time doesn't mean a thing to them. They have their own mental time zone. 😂 I'm with the Bishop I'd be constantly early because I'd never remember that craziness. As it is our Spring forwarded/ fall back 1 hour in March/November messes me up here in the USA. We've got some States/Cites that don't even acknowledge the Day lights savings time. Great episode HC. I can't even imagine what the people/staff of the estate thought of the craziness of that time. I'm surprised George V didn't change/correct it back .
Ah yes, I know people like that too and as a very punctual person, it drives me nuts when I make and arrangement with someone and they show up literally an hour late. DST in the US seems to be much worse than in the UK (based on your and other people's comments). I suppose it's because you already have so many time zones whereas we just have one and everyone changes clocks together.
@@HistoryCalling I wish we were just one time zone, but that doesn't work for us. We have 4 different Regions, Eastern, (East Coast) Central (Midwest I'm in), Mountain (has lots of mountains in that region hence it's name) & Pacific (West Coast). Hawaii and Alaska are different too.
As a suggestion for videos: I would love to see your take on some Ancient Roman or Byzantine history. The absolute madness around some of the Popes would be great too
I had no idea of the Sandringham Time Zone. Yes, it was eccentric. I really didn’t like the Duke of Windsor but, I agree with him in ending the Sandringham Time. Thank you for the history lesson. Last week’s video was icky but, we owe it to the poor souls who drowned in the sewage to hear their story. May they rest in peace. Last week in the news I heard about a museum in Scotland where you can see the facial recreation of the people in the bronze era. You can see them smile and move their eyes. Have you heard of it? I live in San Antonio Texas. The curator of the Alamo wants to do this type of recreation. When it’s ready I will check it out. It will be as if I’m watching history come alive. I know it may not be 100% accurate but, it will be fun.
No, I hadn't heard that story, but Scotland's obviously pretty close to me (as in you can see it when you stand on the eastern side of Northern Ireland) so I might swing by at some point. I Googled it and it's in Perth. 😊
Boy the royals can really make life interesting can't they My question to him would be why only a half hour, why not the full hour. Thanks HC look forward to next weeks adventure.
Funny I was just talking to someone yesterday who remembers the year they tried not changing the clocks in the UK (I think it was in the 1960s). The sun didn't come up until about 10am in the winter though which I wouldn't like and nowadays with there being so much more traffic, I think it would be dangerous for kids going to school in the mornings.
Oh, tough one. I like Margaret of Anjou and Margaret Beaufort (not that I strongly dislike the others). In some cases we don't really know enough them for me to have a strong opinion of them.
@@HistoryCalling oh yes (looking at you Anne Neville👹) the other day I actually saw a person saying she hated Margaret Tudor and giving as justification basically the whole White Queen saga💀 I like her too, I doubt I’d like to be friends with her, but she is admirable!
Wait, Margaret Tudor as in Lady Margaret Beaufort (a Tudor by marriage), or Princess Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland? Either way, I don't think Elizabeth Woodville's situation would be justification for hating either of them.
Messing with time is the best way to confuse and upset people. I'm thinking of the current Daylight Saving Time. While I prefer a later sunset, I greatly dislike going back and forth twice a year. And thinking of the pastor, as one myself, the main thing I worry about is being late. At least he was early, but it could've gone the other way.
Yes, Daylight Savings arouses a lot of anger in the world. 😊 I don't mind it myself, except in winter when the clocks go back and it gets suddenly darker. I wouldn't want kids going to school in the dark though, so I'm prepared to endure it.
Yes, I know people like that too and I hate it. I arrange to meet them and they're literally an hour late. So rude and disrespectful! Anyways, very glad you enjoyed the video 😀
I did standrim time. I remember it from the ( you just said it) polakov drama. About the price with asperburgers or autism. And some other health problems. . Michael gambon ( rest in peace) was in it
@@HistoryCalling yes indeed they both are . I had the pleasure of meeting Michael once in Dublin he was performing om a play he was marvellous.. Funny I was recommending a Richard Harris film to someone the other day. ( the field) another magic play. The scene. ( I believe on TH-cam its called) the law of the land * It wasn't in the play . Just the film , Harris telling a story about his family and taking in the hay in summer. Kerryman ( jokes aside) He deserved an Oscar 4 minutes scene I you fancy a laugh his son ( a very fine and successful actor) telling the story of how his father got the part of King Arthur in camalot us magic. I remember his wife ( ex wife, but he never remarried) told a story about when the were courting . He was living in cheap bedsit in London, after several dates snd things going very well the time had come for him to invite her to his place so he could cook for her. Apparently he went to great lengths to impress but it was an Irish bachelor in the 60s and Harris was eccentric. And on a budget. ( and not known for his cooking) He managed to make everything just presentable and Apparently she was surprised the effort. Several courses. He managed to get expensive champagne the best ( favour) but he had no fridge ( 60s) and it needed to be chilled. During dinner calm as you like he offered champagne to celebrate thier future. She accepts He get up and goes to the window. He took s piece of string. And started pulling ( just a moment my dear) a minute later the champagne appeared. He had lowered it into the themes ( it was freezing) she laughed so hard. Apparently she decided to marry him that night. After the divorce he moved into the savoy hotel and stayed the rest of his life , when he had his heart attack and was dying the ambulance came to bring him to hospital. All tje people in the lobby were staring. As he passed them he raised his head tok of the gas mask and said . Its was the food 😋
@@HistoryCalling nice you know a haven't watched the crown yet I bought it and it on my list , just haven't had time I think Jared is a wonderful actor..he gets better with age . I thought he was wonderful in mad man . A formal stiff Englishmen in new york in the 60s . . Or the ends of the earth with benidict cumberbatch ( a young lord talbot on a sea voyage to Australia in the 18th century) Talbot Street Dublin. . Or he. Played general grant ( president grand) opposite Daniel day Lewis in Lincoln. I csn watch chenonbyl first episode was enough. Seen to much about it before.. But he really was marvellous and I think broke America with fringe like a jj Adrian's x files esq show with John noble from lord of the rings and Leonard nimoy ( spock star trek) as a mad scientist. He was wonderful..
I often live my life as though I'm in my own time zone, but I put no expectations on those around me. I guess it really is one of those benefits of being the King.
The thing is, if you're going to do this why not make it a full hour? That's what's always puzzled me about Sandringham Time. Anyway, at least Edward VIII did something positive.
As usual, another fantastic and beautiful video. I had to put my mending down to watch it. I agree with others that switching the clocks by an hour between standard and daylight saving time is frustrating and stupid. There's a rumor that it was created to boost the economy. People are more likely to leave their homes and spend money if it's daylight out. Now that the internet is a thing, the lack of third spaces and multiple generations have grown up in this new era, having more light after work doesn't matter as much if people aren't going outside. I would consider myself both eccentric and crazy. I'm certifiably crazy (only half joking there) and receive my Disability payments due to mental illness but i'm also eccentric. I am literally in the middle of mending a chemise that i wear under a variety if gowns (such as a bodice dress) that wouldn't be out of place in a preraphaelite painting. Am i wearing this to a fairy festival or the renn-fest? I wish. No, i wear this stuff around town. I've kind of become known for it. I'm that weird person who wears weird clothes and tries to get people to fix their sidewalks.
I always heard it had to do with giving farmers more time to work in the fields during harvests (which would be helping the economy I guess), but I don't know if it's true. A little bit of eccentricity never hurt anyone. You just carry on being you. Life would be terribly dull if we were all the same 😊
I can never quite wrap my head around countries that are in multiple time zones. Surely it must get so confusing sometimes, especially if you live in one zone but work in another?
@@HistoryCalling the island of Newfoundland and a bit of Labrador (mainland portion of the province) are under the Newfoundland time zone, and the rest of Labrador is in the Atlantic time zone. Not sure how that came about lol
Interesting video. I never knew this and it is very funny. I am amazed how much King George V and Czar Nicholas II look alike. I know they were cousins but they are nearly spitting images of each other.
Yes, it is a little spooky, isn't it? I sometimes wonder if it's just the beards? If they'd shaved them off would they have looked quite different underneath? I should probably compare pictures of them as kids to see. There is a certain amount of inbreeding in that family of course (though not as much as people seem to think sometimes) and their grandparents were first cousins, so that might have helped.
@@HistoryCalling In my own family I have a grand daughter who is now 30 and I have a great niece in her early 20's. Her mother, my niece, posted a picture of her daughter upon graduation from High School. I copied it and then pasted my grand daughters graduation photo next to it and sent them to my niece and challenged her to pick which was her daughter. They looked like twins.
Well that was a bit of a weird thing to do. Create your own time zone and confused everyone to boot. Harmless but pointless - means you go to bed too early. You will notice that none of the recent monarchs have reinstated it, so it can't have been that popular even within the royal family. Thanks HC. 😀
Yup. But I suppose if I had no real worries in life (like money, job, etc) I'd have to find ways to amuse myself too and might dream up daft things to do.
To me an absolute obscene amount of money. Adjusted for inflation 200,000 pounds is the equivalent of 30,445 million pounds today. When we think of all the grinding poverty in Victorian England/UK all I can say is NO
I had to check that and it isn't THAT much. £220,000 in 1860 is about £22 million today. (Bank of England's inflation calculator). For a place that size, that's pretty on the money. I take your point thought. The BRF went just living in the bubble of ST but in a completely different universe.
One more thing; I was watching your video on Margaret of Anjou. And someone in the comment section said as a British citizen; they will never accept a French consort ? What do you have to say ?
Do you mean a modern Brit wouldn't accept a French consort nowadays? I would say that's silly and very xenophobic. There have been plenty of French consorts in the past after all (eg Katherine of Valois, Margaret of Anjou, Henrietta-Maria).
And I thought living in differing timezones on the internet trying to line up games and conversations with people worldwide was a nuisance. My family basically already does this all our clocks are set forward so we're especially early to everything but we don't force our ahead time on everyone else lol
Oh that is annoying. I've had to do meetings across time zones too and it can be such a faff. I saw someone at a virtual conference once and the poor guy was delivering his paper at something like 5am his time. It was still dark where he was.
Finally, something that Edward VIII did right. Was Sandringham Time a massive inconvenience? No. But it was rather ridiculous and made scheduling more complicated than it needed to be. It’s an interesting tidbit in history and I think it should stay in the history books.
i had a friend who was always late for things and her boyfriend at the time had his own method for predicting how late she'd be how critical was the time (was it a movie starting at a known time) would people be waiting for her in an uncomfortable standing only environment (too hot or too cold also), or would it be somewhere indoors they might be drinking and amusing themselves would there be enough people in the waiting group that they might provide enough entertainment for themselves that would show how much effort went into departing her place on time....how long it took to find parking would be another matter 🙂
Ooh very short. I was settling to listen and be educated while I create and then it was over.I did not know of Sandringham time, I guess it's a bit like day light savings time.
the forelock is roughly the equivalent of female "bangs". A lock of hair on the fore of the head. So, the eccentric King took time "by the hair of the head". 🙂
Surely the bishop who forgot about Sandringham time was already late not nearly an hour early. I have to question whether this particular anecdote is apocryphal
so... Edward the 7th invented Daylight Saving!.. I'm in Sydney where we have had Daylight Saving every summer for many decades now. Putting the clocks back on a Sunday after the autumn Long Weekend is awaited with pleasure, as everyone automatically gets an extra hour's sleep-in. On the other hand, putting the clocks forward 1 hour in spring is a bit of a chore,as we all then have to get up one hour earlier. Interestingly Queensland, in the same Longitude as my state, has never had Daylight Saving. Legend has it that Queenslanders believe that the "extra" hour of sunlight will fade the curtains!! LOL
Yes, I think it was. I'm sure I would have found it a bit confusing and needed to wear two watches all the time (no pun intended), but it's certainly a very British, very royal thing to do 😊
Hmm, I'm always late getting to the beach from my little bungalow at the shore. And the day always ends too soon! So I might have to take a page from Edward VII's book and adopt a different time zone! Yes, as I think of it, that would solve the problem. Now, maybe I could do something about the tide coming in and swamping my beach blanket! Ah, I'll just channel Canute for that! These royal prerogatives make life so much easier! ;--)
I think the phrase "take time by the forelock" might (at least tangentially) be related to the ancient Greeks. They had a name and concept for the way time appears to speed up and slow down when people are really engrossed in something or really bored. There was also a god for this called kairos who was usually depicted as being completely bald except for his forelock which was supposed to be grasped as he passed by, as people never knew when he was going to 'speed up' and 'slow down'.
Fun fact: did you know, none of Robert E Lee’s daughters never wed ? And historians have debated over rather they had, you know, “love making relationships.”
Please don't associate psychiatry and mental illness with being "crazy", or eccentric. Mental illness is just pain and suffering. Thank you for another great video, best part of the week!! 🥰🍀✨
No offence meant at all and I apologise if any was taken. It was intended to be a lighthearted way of looking at something which I do personally think was eccentric, but of course I don't literally think that the King was mentally ill, just very much used to getting his own way.
@@HistoryCalling I understand, and I never thought that you meant any harm. It's important that we stop associating mental illness to things that it has nothing to do with, including having to do with people acting crazy or being weird, since a lot of stigma is connected to that (which is, for example, why a lot of people don't reach out to psychiatry when they need help - they don't want to be "crazy"), and automatically connecting them is still such an automatic thing. So it's just a friendly reminder, no hate/anger included 🥰🍀✨ and to be fair, if stigma didn't exist, it would've been an excellent joke, but unfortunately we're not quite there yet 😄
@@HistoryCalling or at least how someone portrays themselves. I had a history teacher who was called ‘eccentric’ even though he wasn’t richer than anyone else in our town, because he sorta had that vaguely posh well spoken air about him because he was obsessed with the Victorian era
As someone long opposed to Daylight Savings Time, I now realise what I have been doing wrong. I neglected to become monarch and abolish it. Watch your back Charles, I am on a mission.
Yeah Davina, you've been being lazy. You should be plotting a revolution swiftly followed by your installation as Queen Davina, supreme leader and Lady of Time (has a nice ring to it actually - Davina is one of those names that sounds good with a title in front of it). :-)
So basically I live on “sandringham time”. My car clock is 20 minutes later due to me always waking up late, so now I keep my math skills up and deduct 20 to the actual time so I know I am on time LOL
That is true. Still, it shows how high the bar is for unacceptable royal behaviour when all you have to do is not kill anyone or force through a Reformation to be considered 'not that bad'. 😀
Pulling by the forelock is a very old saying. It means to control something in the way you can control a horse or some other livestock by pulling them by the hair on their forehead, the forelock.
It was a bad idea. We have even had little enclaves in the U.S. that set their times differently from the time zone in which they are located. I don't know if any of those still exist. It just screws everyone up, as you mentioned. Most of the U.S. is currently on Daylight Saving Time. This is another bad idea. Arizona does not go on DST, but the Navaho Nation., which is mostly in AZ, does follow DST. Washington State is now considering dropping DST. This takes only a simple act by the State to not follow DST. But, if a State wants to stay permanently on DST they have to get permission from the U.S. Congress. Idaho, where I live, has 2 time zones. The northern part of the State, from Riggins, ID, is on Pacific Time because it is more closely associated with Washington State economically. But, everything south of Riggins is in the Mountain Time Zone, because it's more closely associated with Utah and the eastern side of the State juts way out in the east abutting Montana and Wyoming. I am sure that there are quirky areas that I'm not aware of. I feel very strongly that we need to abolish DST and not allow anyone to arbitrarily set up their own time zone. The Standard zones were set up so that everyone could rely on knowing what time it was in a different part of the country. I believe this was done when trains were just beginning to be a major transportation method. We needed to be able to have a consistent set of time zones so the railroad schedules could be read and followed by anyone. BTW, Idaho wants to go permanently on DST. This is to have an extra hour of daylight at the end of the day. Where I live, the sun is up around 4:00am and doesn't set until after 9:00pm. Why do I need an extra hour of hot son keeping my air conditioner running at max cool? Let the sun go down at its regular time. Then it starts cooling off sooner and people can enjoy sitting outside. Come the end of December, DST has sunrise around 9:00am. The kids are having to go to school in the dark. NOT a good idea.
Yeah, I don't know how places like America, with multiple time zones manage. It gives me a metaphorical headache just thinking about it. Re: DST, I don't mind it as much but here in Northern Ireland it actually prevents the kids going to school in the dark. Without it, sunrise would be at about 10am. They tried getting rid of it once in the 1960s I believe and I know people who remember going to school in the dark. Nowadays, with all the extra traffic I think that would be very dangerous. It obviously works differently in different parts of the world though.
Many in the New England states would like to stay on DST permanently, certainly quite a few people in the Boston area where I live. We'd then be in the Atlantic Time Zone with Nova Scotia. I prefer DST, but, more important, would like to avoid any time change at all. It throws me off for a week. Most of us get used to the time changes from zone to zone here. I have a child in each except the Central Time Zone. You quickly learn not to call them at what is 9 a.m. in our zone and 6 in my older son's zone.
@@edithengel2284 I understand. I'll give another reason for staying on standard time. Several years ago, a lady was driving to work 2 days after the change. She hit a patch of black ice and was killed. If we had not changed, the sun would've been up an hour earlier and the ice wouldn't've been there.
I anticipated something like the twist at 6:20 (TH-cam Time) but just to be clear: the date of King George's death is forever uncertain because of this royal buffoonery?
'TH-cam time' - you make me laugh :-) I couldn't find anything that untangled his exact time of death, but surely there must be a note somewhere explaining it? I just assumed that I couldn't find it during my limited research time.
I was just watching a video where Dan Snow was history about portrayals of English kings. He mentioned that Edward VIII would have been a terrible king. I really wonder at that, I mean I wonder if he’d be a Nazi sympathizer once enthroned and punched up by the firm. Not that I am overly sympathetic, but it is curious how the show The Crown treated David’s impeachment with the same weightiness as Malory treats the “dolorous stroke” in Le Morte d’Arthur. I know you swing a big stick at the early moderns, but the early 20th century saxe coburg gotha passel are fascinating
I also hadn't heard of Sandringham time before. It is of course pointless and serves no greater purpose than to confuse & annoy literally everyone - but if you're the King, who's to say that you can't have your own timezone? As His Majesty pleases. 😊
I don't hold a brief for Edward VIII--far from it--but I have considerable sympathy for the king in this one instance. His father, George V, was an extremely rigid man who hectored everyone in his family (except apparently the late Queen Mother) about their deficiencies in promptitude, and was similarly rigorous about life in general. I'm sure Edward and his siblings grew up feeling very confined and without control of their own lives. The time change may have been a bit abrupt, but it seems to me forgivable. At least he wanted to live that much in the real world.
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I agree w you… “first world problems” lol
Yeah, when you're worrying about creating your own mini time zone you don't really have serious problems in my view.
Another interesting topic HC, madness or eccentric I'd say totaly bonkers in my view it must have been confusing to some at the time, thanks HC for another gem. ☺️
Crazy
You gave some misinformation.
King Edward VIII was known as David.
His brother Albert, who was first the Duke of York and then George VI, was known as Bertie. Queen Victoria enacted a law that prohibited any future kings to be named "Albert".
I swear some of the people I work with have their own time zones too 😂
I know people like that too. They show up to things literally an hour late and can give you no excuse beyond 'time got away from me'.
@@HistoryCalling Yup, but woe betide anyone who is late to meet them 🤭
In the example I'm thinking of (cause that was a real example I gave above), I've been friends with the person for many years and only once have I arrived late and even then it was only 5 minutes after the meet up time. Of course it was virtually the ONLY instance they've ever shown up on time, because the universe is a perverse, unfair place. This person then turned around to me and laughingly said words to the effect of 'That makes me feel better about being late sometimes'. I nearly killed them (bear in mind that even at that point, they were probably 10 hours in my debt if you totted up all the time I've spent waiting for them).
@@HistoryCalling Oh no that's always the way of it 😂
I too have worked with these same type of people!
I like this channel, mainly because it’s well supported with research.
And ofc the dry humor.
Thank you 😊
“Sandringham Time” sounds like it could have been the title of an episode of The Crown.
Fantastic video. I had no idea about this.
Yes, if the show had started in the 1930s with G5's death and then the abdication crisis they definitely could have included it. It's a shame it didn't actually. I know it was about Queen Elizabeth's life, but she was around then and it could have covered her later childhood and WW2.
@@HistoryCallingI wish Peter Morgan and Netflix would consider a prequel series with that, or at least a movie that covers the last years of her life.
👏👏 Well, at least we can say Edward VIII did one worthwhile thing getting rid of this bit of entitlement. I know the passage of time is inexorable, but my personal timeline shifted when I met Lena thirty years ago.The song from "My Fair Lady" still bounces around in my brain box: "Let the time go by/ I don't care if I/ Can be here on the street where you live." Thanks for this, HC.
Yes, I don't have a problem with him ditching this either, though maybe he could have waited until his father was cold.
That's very romantic :-)
@@HistoryCalling "...could have waited until his father was cold." 🤣👍
This was also completely unknown to me. Thank you, I love these kinds of strange facts.
And thank you also for not taking the world of royals and all their eccentric habits too seriously.
You're welcome. Yes, we don't want to take any of that too seriously at all if we can help it. 🙂
HC, you are having so much fun with these delightful bits of historical trivia. I can't get enough of them! Such a delight on a cool and rainy Monday over here in Oregon (which btw has recently had its own issues with time zones). I'm sure the late Queen's father would have put a stop to it during the war if her Uncle David had not already done so, and being such a practical person herself, she would have had no time for Sandringham time. A special clock setting for the hunting lodge is a self-indulgence that no royal would dream of today. Come to think of it, though, the King's brother IS rather prone to self-indulgence, if you'll excuse the expression.
Yes, it's nice to look at little bits and bobs like this and the toilet of doom from last week. It's a break from the Tudors and the short videos can of course be put together much faster. Yes, I've had other people talking about the craziness that ensues in places like the States that have multiple time zones. I'm glad the UK and Ireland are all in one zone. We don't even realise how lucky we are! 😀 As for Prince Andrew, at some point he really is going to have to move out of Royal Lodge. It's ridiculously expensive and he and Fergie simply do not need all that space, nor do they have the money to pay for it. It's not like Frogmore Cottage is even a cottage. It's a mini mansion all by itself.
I had no idea this was a thing! Thanks for another fantastic vid! ♥️
You're welcome. Yeah, it's something only a royal would come up with I think! :-)
@@HistoryCalling agreed 🤦🏻♀️
Thanks!
OH WOW! THANK YOU SO MUCH THERESA. That is incredibly generous of you. 😀😀😀
According to my Bing search, "taking time by the forelock" means…
“To act decisively; to accept an opportunity without hesitation. If time is pictured with just a forelock of hair, then it can only be grabbed as it comes toward you, not as it leaves.”
from killer toilet to this- boy what a ride we’ve been getting haha. I didn’t even know abt this, thanks!
Just keeping it fresh (or not, depending on your view of the toilet video!) :-)
@@HistoryCalling help😭😭 keeping it flushed😍
Indeed! :-)
Hi friend.
Great story, great video and a great voice that is captivating! Thank you!!
Thank you very much 😊
Hello HC! I had absolutely no idea about this little quirk, only in the British Royal family would something like this happen! It's quite funny to think of it now, but can imagine all the royal household running about to make sure that everything ran smoothly?! It did tickle me! Thank you for ɓringing this little nugget to our attention, I loved it! 😂❤
Yes, it's not one of their better known eccentricities, but I've always found it quite interesting, even if I do think it was a daft idea to put a single house and estate on a separate time zone. Glad you enjoyed it 😀
I keep with gmt lol
I did wonder what Sandringham time actually was. Thank you for clearing that one up!
You're welcome. It's one of the stranger royal eccentricities I think 😀
I’m very heard of Sandringham time but never heard it properly explained. Thank you!❤❤❤
You're welcome 😊
It's like Newfoundland Time being 30 minutes ahead of Atlantic Time, yet St. Pierre and Miquelon are the proper full hour ahead.
Don't, you're making my head hurt 😀
😆 timey wimy. We have a whovian David tennat fan .
Bravo. ( doctor who)
I really loved the episode with eve myles as madam de pompadour. Such a beautiful story .
Absolutely. Tennant and Smith are my favourites (though I'm enjoying Gatwa too). Personal favourite episode is Blink which I rewatched just a few days ago, but I love the Girl in the Fireplace too (though the ending is sad). Sophia Myles though, right? I think you're thinking of the brilliant Eve Myles of Torchwood fame (though she did a little bit of Doctor Who as well).
Thanks for the new video!! I’m excited to hear about it!❤
Thanks Gabriella. Enjoy. It's the kind of thing only the royals would do :-)
Nope. A new one on me. And look - irony of ironies - my kitchen clock has stopped!! 🙄 Time to change the battery...... Thanks HC.
It's the magic of History Calling, reaching out of your screen into your kitchen to mess with your time-keeping devices 😂
@@HistoryCalling Tempus fugit.....!
I always think of a Star Trek: Voyager episode when I hear/read that phrase 🙂
@@HistoryCalling I'll leave that one in the Temporal Mechanics Dept with Captain Braxton!!! I like Voyager. 🤓
This big smile on my face is thanks to You. A new History Calling upload AND the catchy theme song makes me simply happy. Tiny-whiney. Ha! Your CONTENT never fails to be interesting, often fun and always educational. YOU ROCK. 👍
Excellent. Glad I made you smile and you rock too!!! 😀😀😀
I laughed out loud at two places in this video. Good one, HC. 😅❤
Excellent. That's what I like to hear 😀
The way I see it, live and let live. Sandringham Time was harmless.
It was and it makes for a fun little video topic now 😊
@@HistoryCalling nice to have a light hearted video.
Good evening to history calling from Bea 🇬🇧
Hi Bea and welcome to Sandringham Time! :-)
@@HistoryCallingLook forward to your next video from Bea 🇬🇧
Loved this topic HC. Did not know Sandringham time was a thing. That’s why I watch HC. In the middle of Tudor history or Typhoid Mary we get a king who had a hunting thing. LOVE your channel!
Thank you very much (and thank you for showing typhoid Mary some love - that video didn't turn out to be very popular, even though it's American history and about half my viewers are American!)
Very interesting! I like this content!
Awesome, thank you very much 🙂
Wow I had never heard of this! Thank you for sharing! ❤
Thank you for the video
You're welcome. Enjoy the craziness that was Sandringham Time :-)
What a crazy idea! Excuse me, an “eccentric” idea! I don’t know if it’s just me, but I swear I could hear you rolling your eyes over some of these facts. 😂
Great video, as always, and thanks for keeping me company during my dinner tonight! Looking forward to your next video!
I roll my eyes at a lot of things I read about in history. Still, one of the things I've always loved about the topic is the variety, so I can't complain overall. 😀
I think one advantage for Edward was the chance to celebrate New Year's in a local village and then dash back for a second celebration a half hour later.
I mean it's no sillier than changing it for hunting reasons :-)
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? How is the weather where you are? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We have beautiful weather here in Ontario Canada. In the next video in the future. Could you do King Richard the first. King of England from the 11 th century. Have a great day see you next video 😊 Benjamin my cat and I both enjoy watching your live history videos 😊
Hi Michelle. Glad you're both doing well. Weather is here is decent. I might indeed get to the Lionheart at some point :-)
Even if this video is short, as always it's well researched and very interesting to us!
Thank you. Yes, I actually didn't mean to have two short ones back to back like this, but I reordered some of my videos and it just ended up this way. Anyways, glad you enjoyed it 😀
Yep. The royal family is wacky, but I find them to be quite endearingly wacky.
Yeah, I mean what would I make videos about if royals in general didn't provide so much material? I'm grateful to them really for doing so much crazy stuff over the centuries 😂
@@HistoryCalling lol. So true!
I had never even heard of it. As usual an excellent exposition of it.Thank you
It is interesting to hear that even though the British royal family has their own eccentricities.British people are very strict when it comes to punctuality.They make a great effort to be on time, and it is considered to be impolite to be late, even a few minutes.
Another good one History Calling! It would be fun if you could do something on Habsburg inbreeding in the 16th and 17th centuries. It's really fascinating once you start looking at the degree of inter-marriage. I always feel so sorry for Charles II of Spain, the ultimate end product of this grim process. I suspect you would enjoy the research and produce something viewers would really enjoy. Many thanks.
Definitely eccentric, but it made for a very interesting anecdote. I didn’t know the Queen had bought Sandringham for Prince Edward either. Thank you HC for an entertaining bit of history.
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it and got something new from it :-)
As you said a short one but extremely fascinating.
I also thought "So Edward DID do something sensible and not self serving." and was not surprised to see others had the same thoughts. Of course it could be argued that bEdward was still being self serving as he hated the disruption caused by the mini time zone created by Sandringham time.
Yes, it was a short reign but at least he accomplished that 😀
Timey-whimey. Love it!
Tell me you know John Smith without telling me you know John Smith...
As someone who hates silly time zones almost as much as Edward VIII, I find this very illustrative of why people goof around with daylight savings and such. Don’t know why people can’t just change the workday to start an hour later or earlier, with the season. In Edward VII’s defense, that people would consider good daylight hunting hours ‘unsociable’ is pretty aggravating. That these concerns went away because they called the time something different…well, that’s daylight savings time for you. Good on you, Edward VIII.
Yes, I agree that an alternative to DST would indeed be to start work and schools an hour later in the winter. I suppose the challenge would be getting everyone to do it. The hours of 9-5 are so ingrained now (at least in the British psyche) that getting people to do 10-6 might be hard and lead to problems if some jobs still demanded you start at 9, but your kids' school doesn't open til 10. It's a bit of a conundrum.
Same in the US. And I suspect there may be legal factors and regulations that relate to the 9-5 based schedule, and so legally it actually is easier to change the clocks. I’ll still complain about the idea of daylight savings time. Thanks for making a great video, it was a fascinating story!
As someone who lives and works in two different US states, one of which observes Daylight Savings Time and the other which does not, that underlying doubt regarding what time it actually is, is REAL. "What time is it?" becomes a surprisingly complicated question, and God forbid that I have to provide someone with a time for something (appointment, etc.). There are SO many questions: What am I doing? Where am I? Where is the location of whatever we need a time for happening? What time zone is the other person(s) likely expecting that we're using? Daylight Time is a fairly antiquated concept that I would be ecstatic to see go by the wayside, but that is a whole 'nother video.
Thank you. I've always wondered how people manage when they live and work in different zones and you're the first one I think I've come across that this applies to. I wondered it maybe you all just get used to it and make the mental switch in your head everyday without problem, but it's interesting to hear that it's actually a nightmare, even if you've had years of it. You have my sympathy. I don't mind DST as much, but I think that's because the UK and Ireland are all in one time zone and so we all switch together.
Fascinating xxx
Thank you. Just a little short one this week, but an interesting one I hope :-)
@@HistoryCalling always the quality not the quantity
Thank you 😊
Hello HC 👋, OMG!!! At least KIng Edward VIII did something about that craziness. I've got friends and family who this time zone wouldn't work for at all. Some people just think time doesn't mean a thing to them. They have their own mental time zone. 😂 I'm with the Bishop I'd be constantly early because I'd never remember that craziness. As it is our Spring forwarded/ fall back 1 hour in March/November messes me up here in the USA. We've got some States/Cites that don't even acknowledge the Day lights savings time.
Great episode HC. I can't even imagine what the people/staff of the estate thought of the craziness of that time. I'm surprised George V didn't change/correct it back .
Ah yes, I know people like that too and as a very punctual person, it drives me nuts when I make and arrangement with someone and they show up literally an hour late. DST in the US seems to be much worse than in the UK (based on your and other people's comments). I suppose it's because you already have so many time zones whereas we just have one and everyone changes clocks together.
@@HistoryCalling I wish we were just one time zone, but that doesn't work for us. We have 4 different Regions, Eastern, (East Coast) Central (Midwest I'm in), Mountain (has lots of mountains in that region hence it's name) & Pacific (West Coast). Hawaii and Alaska are different too.
Oh my God, my eyebrows are definitely raised! Lol😮
I know. I bet a lot of people at the time had their eyebrows raised and their eyeballs rolling as well. It was all very indulgent. 😀
As a suggestion for videos: I would love to see your take on some Ancient Roman or Byzantine history. The absolute madness around some of the Popes would be great too
I had no idea of the Sandringham Time Zone. Yes, it was eccentric. I really didn’t like the Duke of Windsor but, I agree with him in ending the Sandringham Time. Thank you for the history lesson. Last week’s video was icky but, we owe it to the poor souls who drowned in the sewage to hear their story. May they rest in peace. Last week in the news I heard about a museum in Scotland where you can see the facial recreation of the people in the bronze era. You can see them smile and move their eyes. Have you heard of it? I live in San Antonio Texas. The curator of the Alamo wants to do this type of recreation. When it’s ready I will check it out. It will be as if I’m watching history come alive. I know it may not be 100% accurate but, it will be fun.
No, I hadn't heard that story, but Scotland's obviously pretty close to me (as in you can see it when you stand on the eastern side of Northern Ireland) so I might swing by at some point. I Googled it and it's in Perth. 😊
The first nice thing I ever heard about Edward VIII.
Yup, he's certainly not one of the more popular monarchs, there's no denying that.
I would go with quaint eccentricity that has had its day. Harmless in the 19th & early 20th centuries but completely out of place in the 21st.
Yes, I think that's a good way of summing it up. 😀
Boy the royals can really make life interesting can't they My question to him would be why only a half hour, why not the full hour. Thanks HC look forward to next weeks adventure.
Maybe that would have interfered too much with his bedtime? 😊
Oh, those wacky royals!
I am enjoying your channel more and more.
It was exactly half as crazy as summer time, but all year round, so maybe just as crazy.
Funny I was just talking to someone yesterday who remembers the year they tried not changing the clocks in the UK (I think it was in the 1960s). The sun didn't come up until about 10am in the winter though which I wouldn't like and nowadays with there being so much more traffic, I think it would be dangerous for kids going to school in the mornings.
@@HistoryCalling You simply adjust the school start times by term.
Now, who’s your favourite woman of the Wars of the Roses? For me it’s got to be Margaret of Anjou.
Oh, tough one. I like Margaret of Anjou and Margaret Beaufort (not that I strongly dislike the others). In some cases we don't really know enough them for me to have a strong opinion of them.
@@HistoryCalling oh yes (looking at you Anne Neville👹)
the other day I actually saw a person saying she hated Margaret Tudor and giving as justification basically the whole White Queen saga💀
I like her too, I doubt I’d like to be friends with her, but she is admirable!
Wait, Margaret Tudor as in Lady Margaret Beaufort (a Tudor by marriage), or Princess Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland? Either way, I don't think Elizabeth Woodville's situation would be justification for hating either of them.
@@HistoryCalling ooh my bad yes I meant Beaufort😭
Messing with time is the best way to confuse and upset people. I'm thinking of the current Daylight Saving Time. While I prefer a later sunset, I greatly dislike going back and forth twice a year. And thinking of the pastor, as one myself, the main thing I worry about is being late. At least he was early, but it could've gone the other way.
Yes, Daylight Savings arouses a lot of anger in the world. 😊 I don't mind it myself, except in winter when the clocks go back and it gets suddenly darker. I wouldn't want kids going to school in the dark though, so I'm prepared to endure it.
I know a few people who live in there own time zones lol great video 😆 🤣 😂 😹 thanks @Historycalling
You're very welcome (and same here - it drives me potty as I'm a very punctual person).
@@HistoryCalling 😆 🤣 😂 😹
I’m not a fan of Edward VIII, but I do think he got this right.
Same here 😀
Sounds like something my husband would do
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I know people who live in their own world letting alone time zones. Its a interesting tid bit o inormation that I was unaware of. Cheers.
Yes, I know people like that too and I hate it. I arrange to meet them and they're literally an hour late. So rude and disrespectful! Anyways, very glad you enjoyed the video 😀
Listened to the entire podcast then immediately asked Alexa to play “To Much Time on My Hands” by Styx
Haha! Well, why not? My personal favourite song about time is "Time in a bottle" by Jim Croce.
This explains the odd time zones in Austrslia (and Newfoundland?)? They were offset not from Greenwich but from Sandringham?
I did standrim time. I remember it from the ( you just said it) polakov drama. About the price with asperburgers or autism. And some other health problems. .
Michael gambon ( rest in peace) was in it
Ah, Dumbledore. Sadly missed (both the Dumbledores are sadly missed actually).
@@HistoryCalling yes indeed they both are . I had the pleasure of meeting Michael once in Dublin he was performing om a play he was marvellous..
Funny I was recommending a Richard Harris film to someone the other day. ( the field) another magic play. The scene. ( I believe on TH-cam its called) the law of the land *
It wasn't in the play . Just the film , Harris telling a story about his family and taking in the hay in summer. Kerryman ( jokes aside)
He deserved an Oscar 4 minutes scene
I you fancy a laugh his son ( a very fine and successful actor) telling the story of how his father got the part of King Arthur in camalot us magic.
I remember his wife ( ex wife, but he never remarried) told a story about when the were courting .
He was living in cheap bedsit in London, after several dates snd things going very well the time had come for him to invite her to his place so he could cook for her.
Apparently he went to great lengths to impress but it was an Irish bachelor in the 60s and Harris was eccentric. And on a budget. ( and not known for his cooking)
He managed to make everything just presentable and Apparently she was surprised the effort. Several courses. He managed to get expensive champagne the best ( favour) but he had no fridge ( 60s) and it needed to be chilled.
During dinner calm as you like he offered champagne to celebrate thier future. She accepts
He get up and goes to the window. He took s piece of string. And started pulling ( just a moment my dear) a minute later the champagne appeared. He had lowered it into the themes ( it was freezing) she laughed so hard. Apparently she decided to marry him that night.
After the divorce he moved into the savoy hotel and stayed the rest of his life , when he had his heart attack and was dying the ambulance came to bring him to hospital.
All tje people in the lobby were staring. As he passed them he raised his head tok of the gas mask and said . Its was the food 😋
Oh my, what a way to go! 🙂 I was just watching a little bit of Jared Harris in The Crown the other day actually.
@@HistoryCalling nice you know a haven't watched the crown yet I bought it and it on my list , just haven't had time
I think Jared is a wonderful actor..he gets better with age . I thought he was wonderful in mad man . A formal stiff Englishmen in new york in the 60s . .
Or the ends of the earth with benidict cumberbatch ( a young lord talbot on a sea voyage to Australia in the 18th century) Talbot Street Dublin. .
Or he. Played general grant ( president grand) opposite Daniel day Lewis in Lincoln.
I csn watch chenonbyl first episode was enough. Seen to much about it before..
But he really was marvellous and I think broke America with fringe like a jj Adrian's x files esq show with John noble from lord of the rings and Leonard nimoy ( spock star trek) as a mad scientist. He was wonderful..
I often live my life as though I'm in my own time zone, but I put no expectations on those around me. I guess it really is one of those benefits of being the King.
Yes, I think it's fine if you're not annoying anyone else with it. 😊
The thing is, if you're going to do this why not make it a full hour? That's what's always puzzled me about Sandringham Time. Anyway, at least Edward VIII did something positive.
That might have been too sensible 😀
As usual, another fantastic and beautiful video. I had to put my mending down to watch it.
I agree with others that switching the clocks by an hour between standard and daylight saving time is frustrating and stupid. There's a rumor that it was created to boost the economy. People are more likely to leave their homes and spend money if it's daylight out. Now that the internet is a thing, the lack of third spaces and multiple generations have grown up in this new era, having more light after work doesn't matter as much if people aren't going outside.
I would consider myself both eccentric and crazy. I'm certifiably crazy (only half joking there) and receive my Disability payments due to mental illness but i'm also eccentric. I am literally in the middle of mending a chemise that i wear under a variety if gowns (such as a bodice dress) that wouldn't be out of place in a preraphaelite painting. Am i wearing this to a fairy festival or the renn-fest? I wish. No, i wear this stuff around town. I've kind of become known for it. I'm that weird person who wears weird clothes and tries to get people to fix their sidewalks.
I always heard it had to do with giving farmers more time to work in the fields during harvests (which would be helping the economy I guess), but I don't know if it's true. A little bit of eccentricity never hurt anyone. You just carry on being you. Life would be terribly dull if we were all the same 😊
I got to reset my watch.
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Fun fact: did you know, pleasant Riggs crump was the last recognized confederate soldier ?
I didn't, but I have heard stories of there still being grandchildren of people who fought in the Civil War alive today, which is pretty wild.
@@HistoryCallingOld men marrying much younger women whose children also produced children at an advanced age.
3:28 hypothetically a way to control a horse, but truthfully I’ve never had success with it
Fun fact, the island part of my Canadian province has its own time zone
I can never quite wrap my head around countries that are in multiple time zones. Surely it must get so confusing sometimes, especially if you live in one zone but work in another?
@@HistoryCalling the island of Newfoundland and a bit of Labrador (mainland portion of the province) are under the Newfoundland time zone, and the rest of Labrador is in the Atlantic time zone. Not sure how that came about lol
@@HistoryCalling And then there’s China, which geographically spans multiple time zones, but NOPE. It’s Beijing time for the whole country.
Interesting video. I never knew this and it is very funny. I am amazed how much King George V and Czar Nicholas II look alike. I know they were cousins but they are nearly spitting images of each other.
Yes, it is a little spooky, isn't it? I sometimes wonder if it's just the beards? If they'd shaved them off would they have looked quite different underneath? I should probably compare pictures of them as kids to see. There is a certain amount of inbreeding in that family of course (though not as much as people seem to think sometimes) and their grandparents were first cousins, so that might have helped.
@@HistoryCalling In my own family I have a grand daughter who is now 30 and I have a great niece in her early 20's. Her mother, my niece, posted a picture of her daughter upon graduation from High School. I copied it and then pasted my grand daughters graduation photo next to it and sent them to my niece and challenged her to pick which was her daughter. They looked like twins.
Well that was a bit of a weird thing to do. Create your own time zone and confused everyone to boot. Harmless but pointless - means you go to bed too early. You will notice that none of the recent monarchs have reinstated it, so it can't have been that popular even within the royal family. Thanks HC. 😀
Yup. But I suppose if I had no real worries in life (like money, job, etc) I'd have to find ways to amuse myself too and might dream up daft things to do.
I believe that before railway travel got going, Britain had a few different time zones happening around the country.
By the way, if time was moved up a half an hour would not the preacher be getting there late not an hour early?
Honestly, I was so confused myself by that point that I just went with the flow and agreed with what the guy was saying. :-)
To me an absolute obscene amount of money. Adjusted for inflation 200,000 pounds is the equivalent of 30,445 million pounds today. When we think of all the grinding poverty in Victorian England/UK all I can say is NO
It's the royal version of "government works project" a building that size and complex must have employed thousands of tradesmen and artiisans
I had to check that and it isn't THAT much. £220,000 in 1860 is about £22 million today. (Bank of England's inflation calculator). For a place that size, that's pretty on the money. I take your point thought. The BRF went just living in the bubble of ST but in a completely different universe.
One more thing; I was watching your video on Margaret of Anjou. And someone in the comment section said as a British citizen; they will never accept a French consort ? What do you have to say ?
Do you mean a modern Brit wouldn't accept a French consort nowadays? I would say that's silly and very xenophobic. There have been plenty of French consorts in the past after all (eg Katherine of Valois, Margaret of Anjou, Henrietta-Maria).
I think that person was still a little bit angry over England losing the French crown.
Ah, I see. Well, given what happened to the French royals in the end, I think England had a lucky escape.
And I thought living in differing timezones on the internet trying to line up games and conversations with people worldwide was a nuisance. My family basically already does this all our clocks are set forward so we're especially early to everything but we don't force our ahead time on everyone else lol
Oh that is annoying. I've had to do meetings across time zones too and it can be such a faff. I saw someone at a virtual conference once and the poor guy was delivering his paper at something like 5am his time. It was still dark where he was.
Finally, something that Edward VIII did right. Was Sandringham Time a massive inconvenience? No. But it was rather ridiculous and made scheduling more complicated than it needed to be. It’s an interesting tidbit in history and I think it should stay in the history books.
I agree. Fun to read about. Probably really irritating to deal with.
i had a friend who was always late for things and her boyfriend at the time had his own method for predicting how late she'd be
how critical was the time (was it a movie starting at a known time)
would people be waiting for her in an uncomfortable standing only environment (too hot or too cold also), or would it be somewhere indoors they might be drinking and amusing themselves
would there be enough people in the waiting group that they might provide enough entertainment for themselves
that would show how much effort went into departing her place on time....how long it took to find parking would be another matter 🙂
Ooh very short. I was settling to listen and be educated while I create and then it was over.I did not know of Sandringham time, I guess it's a bit like day light savings time.
Thanks.
You're welcome 😊
the forelock is roughly the equivalent of female "bangs". A lock of hair on the fore of the head. So, the eccentric King took time "by the hair of the head". 🙂
Ah, I see. Thank you 🙂
Surely the bishop who forgot about Sandringham time was already late not nearly an hour early. I have to question whether this particular anecdote is apocryphal
so... Edward the 7th invented Daylight Saving!.. I'm in Sydney where we have had Daylight Saving every summer for many decades now. Putting the clocks back on a Sunday after the autumn Long Weekend is awaited with pleasure, as everyone automatically gets an extra hour's sleep-in. On the other hand, putting the clocks forward 1 hour in spring is a bit of a chore,as we all then have to get up one hour earlier. Interestingly Queensland, in the same Longitude as my state, has never had Daylight Saving. Legend has it that Queenslanders believe that the "extra" hour of sunlight will fade the curtains!! LOL
I knew about Sandringham time, but you are right, it is a very first world problem. But it is charming and harmless, isn't it?
Yes, I think it was. I'm sure I would have found it a bit confusing and needed to wear two watches all the time (no pun intended), but it's certainly a very British, very royal thing to do 😊
It does reveal a certain contempt for the rest of us, which was probably not charming for many of the kings' subjects at the time.
I would not have enjoyed Sandringham Time.
It does sound like a headache, doesn't it?
Hmm, I'm always late getting to the beach from my little bungalow at the shore. And the day always ends too soon! So I might have to take a page from Edward VII's book and adopt a different time zone! Yes, as I think of it, that would solve the problem. Now, maybe I could do something about the tide coming in and swamping my beach blanket! Ah, I'll just channel Canute for that! These royal prerogatives make life so much easier! ;--)
Haha, well at least you're not forcing lots of other people onto your schedule though. Also a beach house sounds amazing! 😊
@@HistoryCalling Not exactly a beach house, but yes, I'm lucky to be near the shore. Thanks for a fun video!
I think the phrase "take time by the forelock" might (at least tangentially) be related to the ancient Greeks. They had a name and concept for the way time appears to speed up and slow down when people are really engrossed in something or really bored. There was also a god for this called kairos who was usually depicted as being completely bald except for his forelock which was supposed to be grasped as he passed by, as people never knew when he was going to 'speed up' and 'slow down'.
Ah, very good. Thank you. I've learnt something new 😀
Fun fact: did you know, none of Robert E Lee’s daughters never wed ? And historians have debated over rather they had, you know, “love making relationships.”
I did not :-)
It’s sorted of similar to king George iii’s daughters.
Some of them did eventually marry. I'd like to circle back to them at some point actually for a video.
Please don't associate psychiatry and mental illness with being "crazy", or eccentric. Mental illness is just pain and suffering. Thank you for another great video, best part of the week!! 🥰🍀✨
No offence meant at all and I apologise if any was taken. It was intended to be a lighthearted way of looking at something which I do personally think was eccentric, but of course I don't literally think that the King was mentally ill, just very much used to getting his own way.
@@HistoryCalling I understand, and I never thought that you meant any harm. It's important that we stop associating mental illness to things that it has nothing to do with, including having to do with people acting crazy or being weird, since a lot of stigma is connected to that (which is, for example, why a lot of people don't reach out to psychiatry when they need help - they don't want to be "crazy"), and automatically connecting them is still such an automatic thing. So it's just a friendly reminder, no hate/anger included 🥰🍀✨ and to be fair, if stigma didn't exist, it would've been an excellent joke, but unfortunately we're not quite there yet 😄
That is Royalty.. walking in your own Time Zone.
Very odd. I never heard of this before.
There are so many odd little stories like that from the royal families of the past. 😀
I know lots of Native Americans who "go on Indian Time" and pagans who "go on Pagan Time." Some people are just time blind.
Wonder if anyone could look into the line where ‘crazy’ turns into ‘eccentric’ and how many country homes you need to own to cross that line 🤔😂
Haha. Indeed. I think it's attached to one's bank balance as well. 😊
@@HistoryCalling or at least how someone portrays themselves. I had a history teacher who was called ‘eccentric’ even though he wasn’t richer than anyone else in our town, because he sorta had that vaguely posh well spoken air about him because he was obsessed with the Victorian era
Ah, I can think of some academics I've met over the years who would fit that bill too.
@@HistoryCalling my life plan is to be an eccentric old woman who lives on the edge of a village and tells the local children historical tales 😂
And they'll love you for it. 🙂
As someone long opposed to Daylight Savings Time, I now realise what I have been doing wrong. I neglected to become monarch and abolish it.
Watch your back Charles, I am on a mission.
Yeah Davina, you've been being lazy. You should be plotting a revolution swiftly followed by your installation as Queen Davina, supreme leader and Lady of Time (has a nice ring to it actually - Davina is one of those names that sounds good with a title in front of it). :-)
@@HistoryCalling Shhh! Don't blab the plan.
So basically I live on “sandringham time”. My car clock is 20 minutes later due to me always waking up late, so now I keep my math skills up and deduct 20 to the actual time so I know I am on time LOL
Might be a short video, but if you watch it in Sandringham, it's longer.
Haha! Favourite comment so far 😀
I suppose changing the time is better than many of his ancestors eccentricities. No one died nor forced to change religions.
That is true. Still, it shows how high the bar is for unacceptable royal behaviour when all you have to do is not kill anyone or force through a Reformation to be considered 'not that bad'. 😀
Pulling by the forelock is a very old saying. It means to control something in the way you can control a horse or some other livestock by pulling them by the hair on their forehead, the forelock.
I have my own time zone too. It's called, "whenever I want."
Haha!
It was a bad idea. We have even had little enclaves in the U.S. that set their times differently from the time zone in which they are located. I don't know if any of those still exist. It just screws everyone up, as you mentioned. Most of the U.S. is currently on Daylight Saving Time. This is another bad idea. Arizona does not go on DST, but the Navaho Nation., which is mostly in AZ, does follow DST. Washington State is now considering dropping DST. This takes only a simple act by the State to not follow DST. But, if a State wants to stay permanently on DST they have to get permission from the U.S. Congress. Idaho, where I live, has 2 time zones. The northern part of the State, from Riggins, ID, is on Pacific Time because it is more closely associated with Washington State economically. But, everything south of Riggins is in the Mountain Time Zone, because it's more closely associated with Utah and the eastern side of the State juts way out in the east abutting Montana and Wyoming.
I am sure that there are quirky areas that I'm not aware of. I feel very strongly that we need to abolish DST and not allow anyone to arbitrarily set up their own time zone. The Standard zones were set up so that everyone could rely on knowing what time it was in a different part of the country. I believe this was done when trains were just beginning to be a major transportation method. We needed to be able to have a consistent set of time zones so the railroad schedules could be read and followed by anyone. BTW, Idaho wants to go permanently on DST. This is to have an extra hour of daylight at the end of the day. Where I live, the sun is up around 4:00am and doesn't set until after 9:00pm. Why do I need an extra hour of hot son keeping my air conditioner running at max cool? Let the sun go down at its regular time. Then it starts cooling off sooner and people can enjoy sitting outside. Come the end of December, DST has sunrise around 9:00am. The kids are having to go to school in the dark. NOT a good idea.
Yeah, I don't know how places like America, with multiple time zones manage. It gives me a metaphorical headache just thinking about it. Re: DST, I don't mind it as much but here in Northern Ireland it actually prevents the kids going to school in the dark. Without it, sunrise would be at about 10am. They tried getting rid of it once in the 1960s I believe and I know people who remember going to school in the dark. Nowadays, with all the extra traffic I think that would be very dangerous. It obviously works differently in different parts of the world though.
Many in the New England states would like to stay on DST permanently, certainly quite a few people in the Boston area where I live. We'd then be in the Atlantic Time Zone with Nova Scotia. I prefer DST, but, more important, would like to avoid any time change at all. It throws me off for a week.
Most of us get used to the time changes from zone to zone here. I have a child in each except the Central Time Zone. You quickly learn not to call them at what is 9 a.m. in our zone and 6 in my older son's zone.
@@edithengel2284 I understand. I'll give another reason for staying on standard time. Several years ago, a lady was driving to work 2 days after the change. She hit a patch of black ice and was killed. If we had not changed, the sun would've been up an hour earlier and the ice wouldn't've been there.
I anticipated something like the twist at 6:20 (TH-cam Time) but just to be clear: the date of King George's death is forever uncertain because of this royal buffoonery?
'TH-cam time' - you make me laugh :-) I couldn't find anything that untangled his exact time of death, but surely there must be a note somewhere explaining it? I just assumed that I couldn't find it during my limited research time.
I was just watching a video where Dan Snow was history about portrayals of English kings.
He mentioned that Edward VIII would have been a terrible king.
I really wonder at that, I mean I wonder if he’d be a Nazi sympathizer once enthroned and punched up by the firm.
Not that I am overly sympathetic, but it is curious how the show The Crown treated David’s impeachment with the same weightiness as Malory treats the “dolorous stroke” in Le Morte d’Arthur.
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I also hadn't heard of Sandringham time before. It is of course pointless and serves no greater purpose than to confuse & annoy literally everyone - but if you're the King, who's to say that you can't have your own timezone? As His Majesty pleases. 😊
Exactly. This is what happens when you're so used to getting your own way and everyone around you has to do as you say.
Edward VIII could have waited a bit before changing the clock.
Yes, it was a bit of a slap in the face to his father to not even wait for the body to cool.
I don't hold a brief for Edward VIII--far from it--but I have considerable sympathy for the king in this one instance. His father, George V, was an extremely rigid man who hectored everyone in his family (except apparently the late Queen Mother) about their deficiencies in promptitude, and was similarly rigorous about life in general. I'm sure Edward and his siblings grew up feeling very confined and without control of their own lives. The time change may have been a bit abrupt, but it seems to me forgivable. At least he wanted to live that much in the real world.