What do you guy think? Fair test? Do you guys have other options for the same money? Here are some links to the tools that I compared in the video: AcDelco: amzn.to/31QbMBl Gearwrench: amzn.to/31LNvwe Quinn: www.harborfreight.com/12-in-D... Lowes: amzn.to/2Zh3rVu
Was the weight of the wrench accounted for? Seems like an existing torque would exist on the wrench hanging at a 90 degree angle like that. Things like battery location could affect that. You would need to subtract the existing torque value before weight is added to the torque value after weight is added to zero the wrench. Was that considered? Thanks!
Kobalt, Quinn, Mac tools, among many others all use eclatorq as their digital torque wrench manufacturer. They were one of the pioneers of the digital torque wrench world.
Video very well done. You didn't feel the need to share your music with me (big thumbs up). The video was stable (no seasickness). You are well spoken and the test seemed more than fair to me. I was looking for this information. thank you for putting in the effort, and you have a new subscriber. Nice job.
I can tell you that when the Quinn Digital Torque meter I have was tested for Calibration accuracy it was spot on and all super tight within Spec just like you tested.
Great job. I appreciate all the effort you put into buying and testing these. Really surprised to see the cheapest option, also be the most accurate option. Also... I went to Harbor Freight and verified that YOU CAN USE THE 20% OFF COUPON on these Quinn torque wrenches. Since there ALWAYS is a 20% off coupon, its possible to pickup that torque wrench for $135.99 any day of the week. There is also a 25% off coupon coming up on Labor Day ONLY (Sept. 2nd) that will take it down to $127.50, for the cheap ones like me... That's beginning to be significantly cheaper than the next closest option. Taking into account that it's also the MOST accurate, it looks like a pretty sweet deal...
Great video 👍🏼. Well laid out, you jumped right to the point and didn’t spend half the time talking about subscribing and liking the video. I hate that. You saved that stuff for the end and didn’t beat a dead horse! These tests you conducted and length of the video could not have been any better. Thanks and great job 👏🏼
At least in my country before testing accuracy to get certification you have to keep it in room temperature over 24h before testing you must do at least 5 tightening sequencing to "warm up" the tool and then is only actually tested for accuracy. And it needs to be done every year. I actually didn't hear that any professional shops in USA has to have certification for torque wrenches. While back in my country is actually mandatory.
Thanks for a very good and useful video. One possible comment - just because the Gearwrench model issues a lesser warantee for the calibration than for the tool itself does not necessarily indicate that it performs more poorly than the others in this respect. The others just don't tell you that.
I just bought the Tekton 24340 1/2 inch drive from Amazon about a week ago, 57.00 bucks. 25 to 250 ft. lb. no batteries needed. I may check into one of the smaller units digital. Nice Job, thanks.
yah the tektons are a good. The only issue i have with buying them is harbor freight sells the Pittsburgh's for 10 dollars a piece with a coupon that is virtually year round and if it goes bad you can walk in and grab a new one with no hassle. I bought a tekton and after realizing with little use and stored at lowest setting... why am i spending money for something that sitting the grease will dry up and stop functioning righ? harbor freight is the way to go...
Calibration warranty of 90 days is common. I like the longer warranty on the tool itself to cover tool defects in places like the handle, head, ratcheting mechanism, etc. A good example on this is the Craftsman torque wrenches where the plastic retaining rings are prone to breaking. That plastic breaks, the tool is next to useless. Also, Husky has a lifetime warranty on their torque wrenches.
Great job on the video. You covered the subject very thoroughly and efficiently. Very well spoken with no annoying background music. I just picked up the Quinn wrench - looks like I got the right one. I'm rebuilding a motor and thought I'd invest in an angle torque wrench vs. guesstimating the head bolt angles. Thanks!
Great video, I like the way that you didn't favour one particular brand over the others until all the tests were complete. I've just bought the 3/8 version of the ACDelco and I'm very pleased with it, mny first electronic torque wrench, all my others are Teng mechanical tools.
The Quinn is made by Eclatorq in Taiwan and they are the original equipment supplier of digital torque wrenches for Stanley Black and Decker meaning that all MAC, Proto and USAG digital torque products come from Eclatorq,. The ones they sell to SBD have the "Christmas tree" torque indicators (looks just like a drag racing "Christmas tree") to tell you when you are reaching pre-set torque as standard instead of the more simple arrangement on the Quinn. Bottom line is that a very good and trusted supplier is making this wrench for Harbor Freight.
Excellent video and testing procedure. I've seen several video comparing the HF wrench and I'm getting it as an upgrade to my click torque wrench that I've had for over 30 yrs. I haven't seen a bad review on the HF version yet. Great Job!!
For a professional mechanic doing engine overhauls everyday, torquing cam phasers, caps, piston rod caps, crankshaft caps, and head bolts my snap on ATECH has worked amazing haven’t calibrated it in 3 years roughly and still torques on point I’ve checked it with my snap on dealer and torques like new never been around the HF or the other torque wrenches before my click type but I’d like to see it in an everyday use
Lucked out, before watching this I bought the first place choice Quinn just because it was readily available when I needed it. Informative video, was making sure the Quinn was the best option. Based off the terminology used I'm going to assume some machining work experience.
This a fair test. My only question is about the durability of any tool from the Hazard Fraud. I own the Kobalt torque wrench and I compared it to an old Craftsman torque wrench. It was dead on. I've seen several TH-camr recommending the Gearwrench as an alternative to Snap-on. Their Gearwrench model is not what you're using.
Ive used the cheap stuff. Then I used the newest SnapOn digital. It wasn't mine, so I have no dog in the fight. But damn, the SnapOn is worth it. You can feel the difference using it. It's just better.
I think that you gave it all it effort and honesty, that says a lot to me. I have owned cheap tools and over the years, it bit me in the butt. I loved my mac tools and the best tool set I have ever owned was S&K and after breaking all my other tools (sockets) removing a wheel on a new truck I was bringing home from the dealers, they did the job and got me home. That was twisted off lug wrench, a couple of snap on sockets that I had in my tool set, then going in to a store close by, that was the only tool they sold and I just needed to get this tire off or have to tow my truck back to the dealers. I was desperate to get home and I had to jump on the flex bar and when the lugs came loose, they made snapping sounds that let me know that someone with a attitude had run them on with a impact tool. The next day I got in touch with the dealer and told him what I went through and that he was going to get a truck back and give me my money back on the truck... I was beyond angry, I was livid cause it cost me more than surface.. I had the kids with a young babysitter and I and the wife were together when I bought it. She was hungry tired and wet from helping me (it was raining) to hold the brake and me twisting and doing all that I did go through (before cell phones) plus I broke one finger when the flex bar came off the sockets that were snapping. I land on the ground cussing and she was scared cause I had to hitchhike to a nearby store but a person in the store did take me back to my truck.... this was in like 72 or so. I really hated the truck and was going with that dealer is eating this one. They send their mechanics out to the house begging me to wait as they wanted to verify and so a hour later from a nearby dealers here they come and jack my truck up and they start looking at everything including the sockets and their lug wrench. Long story short the rest of the tires came off the same way. I had proof right off the get go so they replaced all my tools and the cost of buying more and then went so far as to buy my wife a new dress and take us to diner with all the trimmings so the guys that worked on it at my house must of given the right words. I did keep the truck and the motor blew up in three months so I did take it back then and I wound up sueing Gene Fiedler Chevrolet and it took me five years to get my money out but by then there was more compensation. I owned that ford that I was driving for half cost/LOL.
Great review, I’m looking to update my old deflecting beam wrench from the 80’s and go digital. I have a question do you think using a 3/8 torque wrench with a 1/2 inch drive adapter will give you accurate torque readings? Some people say you should use the same size drive others say it doesn’t matter torque is torque! What do you think?
I don't say this to claim that you are lying, i'm simply curious if my inquiries are of any truth, would the degree test not be inaccurate due to the truck rolling forwards as you are fastening the lug nuts? I don't know how these wrenches " understand " the degrees, but if it is some sort of accelerometer then it very well could be skewed due to the truck not rolling the same in every test. As the tire rolls the greater the angle changes without any greater force to the lug. I did appreciate the video though, it is hard as you stated to find videos of people not being payed to say stuff
The set button requirement on the gearwrench is the best option of all of them because it locks the setting , little chance of accidentally changing it
I was going to say this. The "clunky interface" of the Gearwrench is actually a feature, to prevent accidental movement of the setting before you torque the fastener.
In the interest of being even more accurate on the total torque being applied, you would want to add the torque created by the mass of the wrench itself. Weigh the wrench to get the force acting downward. Balance the wrench on a knife edge to find the center of mass and mark it. Measure the distance from the axis of rotation of the wrench(the center of the drive) to the center of mass. The weight of the wrench in lbs times this distance is the wrench's contribution to the total torque. Add this to the weight you have hanging times its distance to the axis of rotation. As an example, if we assume that the wrench is about 2 ft long and weighs about 6 lbs then the torque generated by the wrench itself would be about ( 2 ft)/2 * 6 lbs or about 6 ft*lbs. You would want to add this value to whatever torque is being created by the hanging weight and that is what the wrench should read if it is accurate. I hope this is helpful.
Excellent, thank you! Have you had any of them recalibrated at a calibration shop? One of the reasons that I Prefer some of the more well-known and expensive brands is because the calibration shops know what they’re dealing with and they’re pretty well-versed with the more common brands.
Great topic! I was experimenting with torque sticks today and compared with my torque wrench and there was a huge difference. Have you done a video on comparing these two methods on wheel nuts? Thanks for your videos. Cleveland my home city.
I have my doubts about the AC/Delco brand. I bought some AA batteries that were labled ACDelco. The back when opened had some dead batteries, and the "good" ones lasted poorly. I think they see the rights to the name to anyone.
Good to hear. I needed one and HF is the only place I found one. I was looking for a gear wrench or dewalt at Home Depot but no luck. How has it held up ? And how long have you had it for ?
I went into harbor freight about 2yrs ago. They was having a huge clearance sale. The floor manager told me you see those Daytona slim floor jacks,? I said yes, their only $125.99. I said ok, he said buy the membership for $29.99 and get 30% off that price, I think I paid $75 for it. But he told me snapon was doing a test. Brand name versa brand name with different color and name, which would sell better. He told me them Daytona slim floor jacks that are 3tons are actually snapon. They painted them and named them Daytona. I end up buying 2 for under $150 and I still have them. Nothing wrong
imo unless you need the angle feature, the best torque wrenches are the split beam style, personally i always found the electronic ones hard to get used to, with the mechanical style you can feel when the breakover is about to happen to let off the wrench in time to avoid over torqueing a fastener. also the best way, if you want to go big brain, to measure "torque" is not to measure torque, but rather bolt stretch.
14:00 as someone with "access" to the Stanley Tools R&D lab where a lot of the brand name stuff you all know and love comes from I can assure you that you can not say "This is the same tool, just different colors" or whatever unless you have it apart on the bench in a million pieces and test the metal to know if it's the same alloy/grade from tool to tool. You very well can be seeing the difference in heat treat specs where one uses a harder gear and pawl with less deflection. Just because they look alike doesn't mean they can't be made very differently. In today's economy many items are made to order by a handful of manufacturers for various brands and their specs. Stanley tool is a good example of that. You'll see Cresent, Channel Lock, Kobalt, MAC, Proto, Craftsman, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc etc all floating around in here. The entire product line may not be produced by Stanley, but certain items are.. Some way more than others, some not so much. Edit for messed up wording.
you could try testing at a know values, first set a bolt in the vice add a nut tighten to 50 ft/lbs then scratch a line on the head of the bolt to the nut. set each torque wrench to 50 and see if the bolt and nut still line up after each.
New sub. I like my analog torque wrench with the needle. I do not even need that really. No replacement for old school feel if you know not to over tighten a fuel filter cap, or an oil drain plug. Humans are good enough most of the time.
I would love to see you compare any one wrench from your video vs an analog wrench and see how much they are off. Also vs an older mechanic without any torque wrench. Now that would be interesting.
I’m wondering if the flex head angle changes the actual applied torque seeing as the effective handle length is shortened and there is no way for the wrench to compensate for that.
It doesnt. What changes is the leverage at your hands. so at a perfect 90° it'll be easier to torque something down to say 80 ft/lbs vs torquing to 80 ft/lbs at a 100°. It may make it harder for u to reach that 80 ft/lbs but it's still 80 ft/lbs. Same with adding extensions still same torque but it's harder to achieve the torque with a longer extension.
I went with a snap-on 3/8 drive heavy duty 15 - 125 ft lb digital wrench for under the hood and a split beam 1/2” drive 50 - 250 ft lb for durability on heavier situations. Works perfect for me.
I really appreciate the thought and throrougness put into this video, but I do see one issue that you might want to address and retest. The way you have your wrench set up will cause a bit of an inaccuracy in your torque readings - you're not accommodating for the weight of the wrench itself in the manner in which you're hanging it. What you should do, is mount the wrench horizontally in the other plane - meaning it will rotate flat around the top of the vice instead of the side. Then you just need a pulley at the edge of the table to hang your weights off that can pull the torque wrench handle without having the weight of the wrench hanging altering the torque readings. I only mention this because it seemed every single torque reading was off on the high side by I do believe this is because it's measuring the weight of the wrench as well as the load you put on it. Change the plane of rotation in the test to eliminate the weight of the ranch and your results will be significantly more accurate. I have a feeling the Delco would win if that were the case. Again though, I really appreciate you doing this and posting the results. They are still very relevant and will do a lot of people cut myself included. :)
Im not a snap on snob by any means but the only consideration for a digital torque wrench is the snap on tech angles. Yes they are expensive but nothing else compares. Save up the extra dough and buy something that will last and has a high resale value.
In 1975 no one needed a torque wrench. This whole industry was born because they are making heads out of plastic and if you over turn a bolt, things break.
@@devinslurry365 I'm sure glad you're not working on my airplane. Try that method on the case through bolts on an aircraft engine and you'll quickly discover how wrong you are.
I would like to know how they bent the handle on that monster vise? For the "do-it-yourself" mechanic Harbor Freight tools are sufficient, they have upped their game in tools recently. Craftsman tools didn't have a very good warranty on their click torque wrenches in the past, it wasn't lifetime.
I personally wouldn't get electronic unless I was using it everyday. Then I would not get budget. Swear once, not every time u use it. CDI still any good? I have not bought one in many years.
When it come to torque specs there is no such thing as budget. my snap on 3/8 torque angle ATECH2F100RB is what I trust for daily use and I still pay attention to how it feels after use.
The specs dont lie. If my $100 torque is spot on every time I use it, and I verify calibration every so often as well as checking it against my buddys snap on if Im doing serious engine work then it was well worth the cost savings and trust worthy for a fraction of his or your snap on. Ppl dont have to rely on the tool trucks any more or be raped by them to have good quality tools. Some things I buy snap on but there are other times I dont. My Pittsburgh 1/2'' impact sockets are flying strong almost 5 years later and not a single issue. Same iwth my Pittsburgh 3/8 flex head. Life is expensive enough without wasting money.
Sounds like a snap on rep lol. Sounds like snap on when they tried to give hf shit that they made the same mind of jack they have at like over half the price. Every one over pays for snap on. They arent paying for better quality.
motoservo it will matter. Hopefully he accounted for it by recording the torque value before the weight was added and subtracting it from the torque with weight added. Things like battery location could affect pre-existing torque on the wrench hanging at a 90 degree angle like that.
Cleveland against the world. 😁 Watch 30 for 30 Believeland if you get the chance. You won't end up a Cleveland fan afterwards but, you'll understand why people are.
@@RepairGeek well I’m from Pittsburgh, which of course is your teams’ rivals, so no, I’ll never understand a Browns’ or OSU fan. (Just kidding). Enjoy your videos!
Harbor Freight has a Quinn 3/8” socket drive that goes from 5 ft-pounds to 100 ft pounds. Other than the torque range and the socket drive size it seems identical to the one he tested.
You're argument about the Gearwrench warranty seems kind of spastic. Going wildly out of calibration is only one possible failure mode and frankly if it happened it would probably be related to a hardware failure that might well be covered. At the very least acting like being covered from the tool just failing to work at all is meaningless seems pretty dumb. This is ignoring that it's very unlikely anyone is going to even catch a calibration error that isn't extremely gross since if we're being honest here almost no one actually regularly tests it.
Your torque test is probably not legit. Torque wrenches are designed for force to be applied at the middle of the grip. It's usually explicitly stated how to use the wrench in the instructions.
quinn and the kobalt might have been made in the same facility but the quinn might be held to higher standards in quality.. just speculation. its like milwaukee an cryobi are made by the same manufacturer .. one is obviously better than the other
What do you guy think? Fair test? Do you guys have other options for the same money?
Here are some links to the tools that I compared in the video:
AcDelco: amzn.to/31QbMBl
Gearwrench: amzn.to/31LNvwe
Quinn: www.harborfreight.com/12-in-D...
Lowes: amzn.to/2Zh3rVu
Was the weight of the wrench accounted for? Seems like an existing torque would exist on the wrench hanging at a 90 degree angle like that. Things like battery location could affect that. You would need to subtract the existing torque value before weight is added to the torque value after weight is added to zero the wrench. Was that considered? Thanks!
Great reviews so i will go out to see whats available
@Ryland Andrew yup, I've been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :)
Try breaking them when they're past warrenty and see if you can get it repaired. I know once you break a Quinn you have a nice digital paperweight.
ICON Harber Freight 1/2 great buy the best out thier for the money...
Kobalt, Quinn, Mac tools, among many others all use eclatorq as their digital torque wrench manufacturer. They were one of the pioneers of the digital torque wrench world.
Video very well done. You didn't feel the need to share your music with me (big thumbs up). The video was stable (no seasickness). You are well spoken and the test seemed more than fair to me. I was looking for this information. thank you for putting in the effort, and you have a new subscriber. Nice job.
I can tell you that when the Quinn Digital Torque meter I have was tested for Calibration accuracy it was spot on and all super tight within Spec just like you tested.
This is about torque wrenches not torque meters. And Quinn is not the best nor will it ever be.
As much as some cheap HF electronics fail, I wouldn’t trust HF to test another HF item. Kind of like have a Fox guard a Hen house.
Most of Harbor Freight stuff is cheaply made junk. They almost never can get parts for what they sell.
Great job. I appreciate all the effort you put into buying and testing these. Really surprised to see the cheapest option, also be the most accurate option.
Also... I went to Harbor Freight and verified that YOU CAN USE THE 20% OFF COUPON on these Quinn torque wrenches. Since there ALWAYS is a 20% off coupon, its possible to pickup that torque wrench for $135.99 any day of the week. There is also a 25% off coupon coming up on Labor Day ONLY (Sept. 2nd) that will take it down to $127.50, for the cheap ones like me... That's beginning to be significantly cheaper than the next closest option. Taking into account that it's also the MOST accurate, it looks like a pretty sweet deal...
I didn't try the 20% off on the Quinn. That would be a smoking deal if that works.
Where do you get that 20% off coupon at?
@@hardcore4476 HF has recently got rid of ALL their coupons for 2021... Sucks.
@@Spectt84 Nooooooooo! Damn covid fucked up everyone’s sales so I can see why really..
Great video 👍🏼. Well laid out, you jumped right to the point and didn’t spend half the time talking about subscribing and liking the video. I hate that. You saved that stuff for the end and didn’t beat a dead horse! These tests you conducted and length of the video could not have been any better. Thanks and great job 👏🏼
I'm a 48 yr old mechanic and I'm impressed with this video. This guy is smart with good common sense, and uses it. I'm subscribed.
Thank you for taking the time to test these, I really appreciate it!
At least in my country before testing accuracy to get certification you have to keep it in room temperature over 24h before testing you must do at least 5 tightening sequencing to "warm up" the tool and then is only actually tested for accuracy. And it needs to be done every year.
I actually didn't hear that any professional shops in USA has to have certification for torque wrenches. While back in my country is actually mandatory.
Thanks for a very good and useful video. One possible comment - just because the Gearwrench model issues a lesser warantee for the calibration than for the tool itself does not necessarily indicate that it performs more poorly than the others in this respect. The others just don't tell you that.
I just bought the Tekton 24340 1/2 inch drive from Amazon about a week ago, 57.00 bucks. 25 to 250 ft. lb. no batteries needed. I may check into one of the smaller units digital. Nice Job, thanks.
yah the tektons are a good. The only issue i have with buying them is harbor freight sells the Pittsburgh's for 10 dollars a piece with a coupon that is virtually year round and if it goes bad you can walk in and grab a new one with no hassle. I bought a tekton and after realizing with little use and stored at lowest setting... why am i spending money for something that sitting the grease will dry up and stop functioning righ? harbor freight is the way to go...
Calibration warranty of 90 days is common. I like the longer warranty on the tool itself to cover tool defects in places like the handle, head, ratcheting mechanism, etc. A good example on this is the Craftsman torque wrenches where the plastic retaining rings are prone to breaking. That plastic breaks, the tool is next to useless. Also, Husky has a lifetime warranty on their torque wrenches.
Great job on the video. You covered the subject very thoroughly and efficiently. Very well spoken with no annoying background music. I just picked up the Quinn wrench - looks like I got the right one. I'm rebuilding a motor and thought I'd invest in an angle torque wrench vs. guesstimating the head bolt angles. Thanks!
Great video, I like the way that you didn't favour one particular brand over the others until all the tests were complete. I've just bought the 3/8 version of the ACDelco and I'm very pleased with it, mny first electronic torque wrench, all my others are Teng mechanical tools.
The Quinn is made by Eclatorq in Taiwan and they are the original equipment supplier of digital torque wrenches for Stanley Black and Decker meaning that all MAC, Proto and USAG digital torque products come from Eclatorq,. The ones they sell to SBD have the "Christmas tree" torque indicators (looks just like a drag racing "Christmas tree") to tell you when you are reaching pre-set torque as standard instead of the more simple arrangement on the Quinn. Bottom line is that a very good and trusted supplier is making this wrench for Harbor Freight.
Bottom line is you sound like a Horrible Fart fanboy. I don't care who makes Quinn junk
Excellent video and testing procedure. I've seen several video comparing the HF wrench and I'm getting it as an upgrade to my click torque wrench that I've had for over 30 yrs. I haven't seen a bad review on the HF version yet. Great Job!!
For a professional mechanic doing engine overhauls everyday, torquing cam phasers, caps, piston rod caps, crankshaft caps, and head bolts my snap on ATECH has worked amazing haven’t calibrated it in 3 years roughly and still torques on point I’ve checked it with my snap on dealer and torques like new never been around the HF or the other torque wrenches before my click type but I’d like to see it in an everyday use
Lucked out, before watching this I bought the first place choice Quinn just because it was readily available when I needed it. Informative video, was making sure the Quinn was the best option.
Based off the terminology used I'm going to assume some machining work experience.
No formal training but, I have a buddy at work that shows me a lot of machining/fabricating. It's cool stuff.
This a fair test. My only question is about the durability of any tool from the Hazard Fraud. I own the Kobalt torque wrench and I compared it to an old Craftsman torque wrench. It was dead on. I've seen several TH-camr recommending the Gearwrench as an alternative to Snap-on. Their Gearwrench model is not what you're using.
That orange bench vice is impressive I need one that size
Ive used the cheap stuff. Then I used the newest SnapOn digital. It wasn't mine, so I have no dog in the fight. But damn, the SnapOn is worth it. You can feel the difference using it. It's just better.
Snap-On... Buy once , cry once. One of the few tools still American made
Explains why it's so overpriced.@@JT-dx1qk
Great test which seems much more “real world” than many.
I think that you gave it all it effort and honesty, that says a lot to me. I have owned cheap tools and over the years, it bit me in the butt. I loved my mac tools and the best tool set I have ever owned was S&K and after breaking all my other tools (sockets) removing a wheel on a new truck I was bringing home from the dealers, they did the job and got me home. That was twisted off lug wrench, a couple of snap on sockets that I had in my tool set, then going in to a store close by, that was the only tool they sold and I just needed to get this tire off or have to tow my truck back to the dealers. I was desperate to get home and I had to jump on the flex bar and when the lugs came loose, they made snapping sounds that let me know that someone with a attitude had run them on with a impact tool. The next day I got in touch with the dealer and told him what I went through and that he was going to get a truck back and give me my money back on the truck... I was beyond angry, I was livid cause it cost me more than surface.. I had the kids with a young babysitter and I and the wife were together when I bought it. She was hungry tired and wet from helping me (it was raining) to hold the brake and me twisting and doing all that I did go through (before cell phones) plus I broke one finger when the flex bar came off the sockets that were snapping. I land on the ground cussing and she was scared cause I had to hitchhike to a nearby store but a person in the store did take me back to my truck.... this was in like 72 or so. I really hated the truck and was going with that dealer is eating this one. They send their mechanics out to the house begging me to wait as they wanted to verify and so a hour later from a nearby dealers here they come and jack my truck up and they start looking at everything including the sockets and their lug wrench. Long story short the rest of the tires came off the same way. I had proof right off the get go so they replaced all my tools and the cost of buying more and then went so far as to buy my wife a new dress and take us to diner with all the trimmings so the guys that worked on it at my house must of given the right words. I did keep the truck and the motor blew up in three months so I did take it back then and I wound up sueing Gene Fiedler Chevrolet and it took me five years to get my money out but by then there was more compensation. I owned that ford that I was driving for half cost/LOL.
Great review, I’m looking to update my old deflecting beam wrench from the 80’s and go digital. I have a question do you think using a 3/8 torque wrench with a 1/2 inch drive adapter will give you accurate torque readings? Some people say you should use the same size drive others say it doesn’t matter torque is torque! What do you think?
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Thanks bruv, I was looiking at the Quinn, now I made up my mind.
I don't say this to claim that you are lying, i'm simply curious if my inquiries are of any truth, would the degree test not be inaccurate due to the truck rolling forwards as you are fastening the lug nuts? I don't know how these wrenches " understand " the degrees, but if it is some sort of accelerometer then it very well could be skewed due to the truck not rolling the same in every test. As the tire rolls the greater the angle changes without any greater force to the lug. I did appreciate the video though, it is hard as you stated to find videos of people not being payed to say stuff
i like the clicky torque wrenchs. Something satisfying about that POP!
The set button requirement on the gearwrench is the best option of all of them because it locks the setting , little chance of accidentally changing it
I was going to say this. The "clunky interface" of the Gearwrench is actually a feature, to prevent accidental movement of the setting before you torque the fastener.
Excellent review and I appreciated your approach and am now subbed!
In the interest of being even more accurate on the total torque being applied, you would want to add the torque created by the mass of the wrench itself. Weigh the wrench to get the force acting downward. Balance the wrench on a knife edge to find the center of mass and mark it. Measure the distance from the axis of rotation of the wrench(the center of the drive) to the center of mass. The weight of the wrench in lbs times this distance is the wrench's contribution to the total torque. Add this to the weight you have hanging times its distance to the axis of rotation.
As an example, if we assume that the wrench is about 2 ft long and weighs about 6 lbs then the torque generated by the wrench itself would be about ( 2 ft)/2 * 6 lbs or about 6 ft*lbs. You would want to add this value to whatever torque is being created by the hanging weight and that is what the wrench should read if it is accurate. I hope this is helpful.
HF for the win.......that is what my checkbook says anyway.
Why bother even torquing them if your going to use HF🤦🏻♂️
@@michaelreale3647 that's what the video showed, HF ain't bad...
@@Brandon-to9vp sure brand new, i want to see the 1 year update. Used regularly the hf is going to be way off compared to snappy
@@michaelreale3647 I've herd people use the Quinn over snap on
@@michaelreale3647 prove it
I really appreciate your videos - no hype, good info. Thanks!!
Excellent, thank you! Have you had any of them recalibrated at a calibration shop? One of the reasons that I Prefer some of the more well-known and expensive brands is because the calibration shops know what they’re dealing with and they’re pretty well-versed with the more common brands.
Great topic! I was experimenting with torque sticks today and compared with my torque wrench and there was a huge difference. Have you done a video on comparing these two methods on wheel nuts? Thanks for your videos. Cleveland my home city.
I have my doubts about the AC/Delco brand. I bought some AA batteries that were labled ACDelco. The back when opened had some dead batteries, and the "good" ones lasted poorly. I think they see the rights to the name to anyone.
I love my 1/2” quinn torque wrench! Its so accurate right on the money.
Good to hear. I needed one and HF is the only place I found one. I was looking for a gear wrench or dewalt at Home Depot but no luck. How has it held up ? And how long have you had it for ?
I had my HF 1/2 quinn torque wrench for 2yrs now! I use it everyday at work, i had 0 issues so far…
Good video.... What is the difference(quality) between the similarly priced craftsman and kolbat with angle torque???????
I went into harbor freight about 2yrs ago. They was having a huge clearance sale. The floor manager told me you see those Daytona slim floor jacks,? I said yes, their only $125.99. I said ok, he said buy the membership for $29.99 and get 30% off that price, I think I paid $75 for it. But he told me snapon was doing a test. Brand name versa brand name with different color and name, which would sell better. He told me them Daytona slim floor jacks that are 3tons are actually snapon. They painted them and named them Daytona. I end up buying 2 for under $150 and I still have them. Nothing wrong
imo unless you need the angle feature, the best torque wrenches are the split beam style, personally i always found the electronic ones hard to get used to, with the mechanical style you can feel when the breakover is about to happen to let off the wrench in time to avoid over torqueing a fastener. also the best way, if you want to go big brain, to measure "torque" is not to measure torque, but rather bolt stretch.
Wonder what the husky digital torque wrenches would do on your tests and testing criteria @Repair Geek
My question is this.Can you use it with the digital torque function off as a usual wrench even beyond that 150 ft-lbs or it will be damaged ?
would you recommend the 3/8 or 1/2 for the HB Quinn?
Thank you bro I appreciate the video and detailed specs
14:00 as someone with "access" to the Stanley Tools R&D lab where a lot of the brand name stuff you all know and love comes from I can assure you that you can not say "This is the same tool, just different colors" or whatever unless you have it apart on the bench in a million pieces and test the metal to know if it's the same alloy/grade from tool to tool. You very well can be seeing the difference in heat treat specs where one uses a harder gear and pawl with less deflection. Just because they look alike doesn't mean they can't be made very differently. In today's economy many items are made to order by a handful of manufacturers for various brands and their specs.
Stanley tool is a good example of that. You'll see Cresent, Channel Lock, Kobalt, MAC, Proto, Craftsman, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc etc all floating around in here. The entire product line may not be produced by Stanley, but certain items are.. Some way more than others, some not so much.
Edit for messed up wording.
you could try testing at a know values, first set a bolt in the vice add a nut tighten to 50 ft/lbs then scratch a line on the head of the bolt to the nut. set each torque wrench to 50 and see if the bolt and nut still line up after each.
New sub. I like my analog torque wrench with the needle. I do not even need that really. No replacement for old school feel if you know not to over tighten a fuel filter cap, or an oil drain plug. Humans are good enough most of the time.
I would love to see you compare any one wrench from your video vs an analog wrench and see how much they are off. Also vs an older mechanic without any torque wrench. Now that would be interesting.
I’m wondering if the flex head angle changes the actual applied torque seeing as the effective handle length is shortened and there is no way for the wrench to compensate for that.
That will be a good question for my snap-on rep.
It doesnt. What changes is the leverage at your hands. so at a perfect 90° it'll be easier to torque something down to say 80 ft/lbs vs torquing to 80 ft/lbs at a 100°. It may make it harder for u to reach that 80 ft/lbs but it's still 80 ft/lbs. Same with adding extensions still same torque but it's harder to achieve the torque with a longer extension.
Wrong
Think would be a good video to test out the 120xp gearwrench digital torque wrenches? With your tests and testing criteria @Repair Geek
I went with a snap-on 3/8 drive heavy duty 15 - 125 ft lb digital wrench for under the hood and a split beam 1/2” drive 50 - 250 ft lb for durability on heavier situations. Works perfect for me.
Are the standard torque wrenches better than the digital for longevity? Wonder how many hard core mechanics use digital torque?
Love this guys doing this video prob won’t many people want to interest. I am interested
Well done! A fair review! 👏
Really great video, on my way to HF now!
I really appreciate the thought and throrougness put into this video, but I do see one issue that you might want to address and retest. The way you have your wrench set up will cause a bit of an inaccuracy in your torque readings - you're not accommodating for the weight of the wrench itself in the manner in which you're hanging it. What you should do, is mount the wrench horizontally in the other plane - meaning it will rotate flat around the top of the vice instead of the side. Then you just need a pulley at the edge of the table to hang your weights off that can pull the torque wrench handle without having the weight of the wrench hanging altering the torque readings. I only mention this because it seemed every single torque reading was off on the high side by I do believe this is because it's measuring the weight of the wrench as well as the load you put on it. Change the plane of rotation in the test to eliminate the weight of the ranch and your results will be significantly more accurate. I have a feeling the Delco would win if that were the case.
Again though, I really appreciate you doing this and posting the results. They are still very relevant and will do a lot of people cut myself included. :)
Great job! You just got a subscriber.
Super video, very interesting. Now I need to learn more about torque wrench stuff. God Bless 👋🏻
I have a CDI torque wrench that left the factory with a ratchet mechanism that binds up sometimes.
Great straight forward video man 👌
Im not a snap on snob by any means but the only consideration for a digital torque wrench is the snap on tech angles. Yes they are expensive but nothing else compares. Save up the extra dough and buy something that will last and has a high resale value.
That's so funny Tommy Lee also calibrates digital Durofix torque adapters
Thank you for making this Video. I'm in the market for a new digital torque wrench and HF will get my money.
Thanks again...
In 1975 no one needed a torque wrench. This whole industry was born because they are making heads out of plastic and if you over turn a bolt, things break.
Knowing that, you dont even need a torque wrench. Just snug it up + 5% and all good.
@@devinslurry365 I'm sure glad you're not working on my airplane. Try that method on the case through bolts on an aircraft engine and you'll quickly discover how wrong you are.
@@FlyingShotsman I am pro analog torque wrenches.
@@devinslurry365 You are pro "making dumb comments" on youtube is what you are lmao
Thanks for the great video!!
Harbor Freight is "Comin to Getcha..!!"
Im a bit alte to the game, but liked and subbed. Very useful video as I need a new torque wrench.
I would like to know how they bent the handle on that monster vise? For the "do-it-yourself" mechanic Harbor Freight tools are sufficient, they have upped their game in tools recently. Craftsman tools didn't have a very good warranty on their click torque wrenches in the past, it wasn't lifetime.
the prices at HF went up as the quality went up.. things are getting kinda expensive
Excellent video
Appreciate you putting in the work. You should do a giveaway for the three you don't hook your subscribers up. 😉
Awesome video! We'll done. Thanks.
I think the test was fair nice job sir
Excelent explanation man. Thanks.
Looked fair and respectable to me 👌
harbor freight actually has some good tools. they make some of the best floor jacks
$250 Gear wrench with angle has been great.
I personally wouldn't get electronic unless I was using it everyday. Then I would not get budget. Swear once, not every time u use it. CDI still any good? I have not bought one in many years.
Thanks for the video. Great job.
For me a flex head is mandatory
Thanks for your effort great video
When it come to torque specs there is no such thing as budget. my snap on 3/8 torque angle ATECH2F100RB is what I trust for daily use and I still pay attention to how it feels after use.
The specs dont lie. If my $100 torque is spot on every time I use it, and I verify calibration every so often as well as checking it against my buddys snap on if Im doing serious engine work then it was well worth the cost savings and trust worthy for a fraction of his or your snap on. Ppl dont have to rely on the tool trucks any more or be raped by them to have good quality tools. Some things I buy snap on but there are other times I dont. My Pittsburgh 1/2'' impact sockets are flying strong almost 5 years later and not a single issue. Same iwth my Pittsburgh 3/8 flex head. Life is expensive enough without wasting money.
@@mmaviator22 I agree you verify it all the time as i do.
Sounds like a snap on rep lol. Sounds like snap on when they tried to give hf shit that they made the same mind of jack they have at like over half the price. Every one over pays for snap on. They arent paying for better quality.
Shouldn't the weight of the wrench be factored in?
motoservo it will matter. Hopefully he accounted for it by recording the torque value before the weight was added and subtracting it from the torque with weight added. Things like battery location could affect pre-existing torque on the wrench hanging at a 90 degree angle like that.
Does it reverse?
HF ain’t no slouch ladies and gentlemen. I shop there.
I see you started out with a “Cleveland” shirt and ended with a “Weiand” shirt. I don’t blame you for changing your Cleveland shirt.
Cleveland against the world. 😁 Watch 30 for 30 Believeland if you get the chance. You won't end up a Cleveland fan afterwards but, you'll understand why people are.
@@RepairGeek well I’m from Pittsburgh, which of course is your teams’ rivals, so no, I’ll never understand a Browns’ or OSU fan. (Just kidding). Enjoy your videos!
Outstanding thank you!
That was a good review, very comprehensive. Does anyone make an inch pound digital torque wrench from 5 in pounds up? That would be a nice review.
snap on makes one down to 12 in lb. you probably need to be looking at screwdriver style if you need to be that low.
Harbor Freight has a Quinn 3/8” socket drive that goes from 5 ft-pounds to 100 ft pounds. Other than the torque range and the socket drive size it seems identical to the one he tested.
thanks, Shame the HF doesn't have the socket release.
You're argument about the Gearwrench warranty seems kind of spastic. Going wildly out of calibration is only one possible failure mode and frankly if it happened it would probably be related to a hardware failure that might well be covered. At the very least acting like being covered from the tool just failing to work at all is meaningless seems pretty dumb.
This is ignoring that it's very unlikely anyone is going to even catch a calibration error that isn't extremely gross since if we're being honest here almost no one actually regularly tests it.
That ac delco is impressive
Thank you
Do you use the snap on ?
I have 2 of them electronic and click style both. They are good wrenches but, there is no other way around it, they are outrageous.
Your torque test is probably not legit. Torque wrenches are designed for force to be applied at the middle of the grip. It's usually explicitly stated how to use the wrench in the instructions.
At last the tool reviewer who knows what he's talking about.
So you sold your snap on right? That’s what I thought
I would have but unfortunately, a used Snap-On torque wrench has no real value... Much like some comments ironically. 🙃
Amazing
Hey thanks for this bro.
Awesome great video
I always use a cheap click torque wrench and calibrate it myself after every few uses. Keep it all greased and it’ll last forever.
thanks
25 min torque pretty high. Couldn't use it for things like valve covers and other lower range bolts. 12.5 much better.
quinn and the kobalt might have been made in the same facility but the quinn might be held to higher standards in quality.. just speculation.
its like milwaukee an cryobi are made by the same manufacturer .. one is obviously better than the other
lol dude Quinn will never be as good as Kobalt
Just got a kobalt for 149 at lowes so this should make it 3rd place lol.