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I bought a 2014 Volvo for $48k in 2018 with a fresh inframe, then over the next 3 years spent $65k in maintenance, parts and repairs. Then in December’21 I bought a 2001 Classic XL 84” bunk 12.7L 60 series in excellent condition for $42k. I’m willing to bet over the next 5 years I won’t have half the headache with it I had with the 2014. Not worried about a parts shortage, to many junkyards where you can pull parts clean ‘em up and use them. I don’t think older trucks will be phased out until maybe 2035 and by then I’m either dead or retired.
I'm in the same page as u brother. I have 2015 volvo d16 in the last 7 weeks I spend 11k and freaking engine codes show up every time left the shop. I closed to lost my business if still losing money. My hope is trade in for old school truck and crux fingers for at least 6 to 8 months before any major repairs. Good luck bro.
I got a Pete 2013 with a series 60 and I haven’t had any problems since I got it, it’s been a year and 7 months. Nothing but oil changes and a oil temp sensor
do some brokers require newer trucks like 2013 or newer? for power only, or they don't care how old your truck is ? did you face anyproblems booking loads with the 2001 ?
Successfully used OTR Performance after I saw them advertised by you one here. Still have it to troubleshoot electronic hiccups. I highly recommend them to anyone driving these new useless-junk-electronic trucks. I was actually 'broken down' derating and the software cleared the phantom code. I'm still rolling to the day on the same 2016 Cascadia. Granted, I'm looking at new old-trucks to upgrade my game. Safe travels thanks, Ryan.
Another option is a truck with an assembled title. Take an emissions truck pull the engine out of it, install a Pre-emission engine in it, go to the DMV get a new VIN number and title …there you go. A modern day glider kit.
It's not the eld we are trying to get rid of, it a legal delete kit is what we want, most guys don't run hard enough to fiddle with paper logs, we just want old school maintenance free trucks
if the glider truck chassis is a 2015 is the truck a 2015 or is the vin number from the donor truck and the year in the registration also from the older donor
In the last couple of days EPA was slapped pretty hard by the Supreme Court, putting the calabash on the EPA's authority. Have you heard about this? And what effect it will have on CMV? T4tv's.
I'm running a 1999 century, with a 60 series Detroit, love the old truck, it's probably closer to being junk than I would ever admit but the engine was just gone through, all new, could use a tranny swap, but with 800K miles on it I will be driving it for a while, it treats me pretty good
All the trucks hagerstown pete got as gliders came in no rears, they stacked them backwards on the mule truck. Which was usually a brand new one. Thats just my experience
You have to bring two out of three to the table, engine, transmission rear gear, usually when people want new rear ends it's because they want new gears, many times different gear ratio
So, gliders have pre ELD motors? What are the main models of glider motors that one would find in a glider? Not just the Make of the motor, but the model of the motor! Also, can gliders be governed down? Or are they normally wide open trucks?
In theory if you had a small restoration shop and could pick up decent trucks for $30k, invest $50k in parts/labor and then sell the trucks for $100-120k there is probably money to be made. However with the current price of used vehicles and the messed up supply chain you’d probably end up with a lot of money in limbo with half built trucks waiting on parts.
Theoretically it works. But the market is so volatile, we don’t know if the price is still high after the truck is finished. Plus it needs a lot of money.
@@truckingandfixing Very true. I did some quick math and assuming you could restore a truck in 90 days with 5 guys and a shop rate of $200/hr with 1/3rd being profit you'd still make more money just running a standard HD repair shop with less risk/investment. Still restoring older trucks sounds fun and rewarding.
hi is it true glider kits where diesel engines are converted to dual fuel or dedicated types to run on natural gas are also readily available to comply with emission standards? do you have any advice on these conversions?
No those days are gone, fix it to manufacture specs EDIT, can you buy a cab and frame to fix your wrecked truck, not to do the ultimate delete kit, money wise I don't think it would make sense to do it, I remember back in 2016 I went to Freightliner with my Volvo it had a series 60 Detroit and Eaton fuller 10 speed beautiful running truck that I lost to rust and faulty wiring, I eventually just sold it to a Mexican who took it to Mexico, no lie, but they wanted $90,000 for a day cab Coronado with no engine tranny or rear gears, straight frame out the back, only two tires on the front, WOW, It just didn't make sense to do it, for $50K I would have jumped on it, but no,
I know a guy on Twitter that has a “retitled” truck. He bought it new last year from a dealer in Nebraska. They pulled out the ISX, and replaced it with a 6NZ Cat. They retitled it somehow, maybe a Nebraska loophole ? He runs to California every week, pulling a stainless steel reefer.
Yes you can, but if you understand the ISX that you probably have in your truck, I would leave it alone until your engine is junk, then run, my father T600 with ISX gets better fuel mileage than my 2000 Freightliner century with a 60 series Detroit, just saying and it's quieter and has more power, and again what makes you money, better fuel mileage, but I personally would walk away also, unless you know the engine your going to put in your truck it's a gamble buying any used engine, I'm in the process of getting my truck back on the road, it was fully rebuilt, I know this from looking at brand new pistons, but they never changed out the liners, I pulled it down just to do liners, the head gasket won't hold the pressure anymore, only about 25K miles on the rebuild from what we are guessing according to old records
Perfectly legal because you didn't remove any emissions, but now you don't need a ELD, trucks with engines 2006 and older didn't have any more than a EGR system for emissions and nobody cares about that, it's the newer 2007-09 had dpf filter, then in 2010 they started injecting DEF, into the exhaust system to make the filter hot enough to burn the soot out and keep the filter flowing
In a back handed way they are telling us that the emissions systems systems are so poor in quality that the rest of the truck will easily out last all of this newer tec that is added for better emissions .maybe some one should start a company offering a complete upgrade system swap for the older out of date systems .It may be cheaper in the long run than all the down time and piece by piece repairs .
You got to be careful. People are swapping new engines and putting old 60s engines and sell them as a glider but this is not factory glider. DOT specify that is illegal to swapped new engine for old 60s series. I think there is a way to notice if is a real glider and not a fake glider that was converted at home
Please god help me... oh my,, This video is so boring. I think you take part in video editing skills no doubt you are proffesstion truck fixer but seriously i am not interested in seeing this whole video it was like someone had gun at my head its forcing me to watch this. Oh god please help this man. RYAN your content is great but make videos more interesing hope you understand.
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I bought a 2014 Volvo for $48k in 2018 with a fresh inframe, then over the next 3 years spent $65k in maintenance, parts and repairs. Then in December’21 I bought a 2001 Classic XL 84” bunk 12.7L 60 series in excellent condition for $42k. I’m willing to bet over the next 5 years I won’t have half the headache with it I had with the 2014. Not worried about a parts shortage, to many junkyards where you can pull parts clean ‘em up and use them. I don’t think older trucks will be phased out until maybe 2035 and by then I’m either dead or retired.
Good luck! 👍💪
I'm in the same page as u brother. I have 2015 volvo d16 in the last 7 weeks I spend 11k and freaking engine codes show up every time left the shop. I closed to lost my business if still losing money. My hope is trade in for old school truck and crux fingers for at least 6 to 8 months before any major repairs. Good luck bro.
Hell yes it is better.
I got a Pete 2013 with a series 60 and I haven’t had any problems since I got it, it’s been a year and 7 months. Nothing but oil changes and a oil temp sensor
do some brokers require newer trucks like 2013 or newer? for power only, or they don't care how old your truck is ? did you face anyproblems booking loads with the 2001 ?
Successfully used OTR Performance after I saw them advertised by you one here. Still have it to troubleshoot electronic hiccups. I highly recommend them to anyone driving these new useless-junk-electronic trucks. I was actually 'broken down' derating and the software cleared the phantom code. I'm still rolling to the day on the same 2016 Cascadia. Granted, I'm looking at new old-trucks to upgrade my game. Safe travels thanks, Ryan.
Thank you for the explanation. Finally someone who understands what the term is and can explain it in normal regular plain English.
There's getting to be a lot of restored older trucks out west here mostly for logging trucks.
I'm in a '20 non emission glider 👍
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What motor?
12.7 Detroit?
Another option is a truck with an assembled title. Take an emissions truck pull the engine out of it, install a Pre-emission engine in it, go to the DMV get a new VIN number and title …there you go. A modern day glider kit.
Is this legal? Where did you find information on this?
IS THAT LIKE BUYING A VEHICLE WITH A SALVAGED TITLE
I WOULD MAYBE CONSIDER DOING THAT WHEN MY ISX CUMMINS WEARS OUT AND JUST PUTTING IN A MOTOR FROM THE 1990'S LIKE SAY AN OLD N14.
Wow, a brand new fancy Snap on Epic tool box ! 👍
😂
My dream I won’t fulfill, move outta Cali and get a 90’s 379 and rebuild it!
Monson and sons trucking does their own gliders and they pay really well.
Just buy a semi that is a 2000 year or older , rebuild the engine, trans , etc and there you have it a semi that doesn't require a ELD ...
It's not the eld we are trying to get rid of, it a legal delete kit is what we want, most guys don't run hard enough to fiddle with paper logs, we just want old school maintenance free trucks
I know this is a old video but I have a question... can make automatic truck glider???
if the glider truck chassis is a 2015 is the truck a 2015 or is the vin number from the donor truck and the year in the registration also from the older donor
In the last couple of days EPA was slapped pretty hard by the Supreme Court, putting the calabash on the EPA's authority. Have you heard about this? And what effect it will have on CMV?
T4tv's.
Love your videos and keep it coming
Thank you!
I'm still running my 1997 freightliner century.
Good for you! 👍
Do you know of a mechanic for older trucks. 2006 freightliner Columbia 120
@@lindajackson7007 in Los Angeles yes but I think any mechanics can work on this older trucks even myself can work on this trucks .
I'm running a 1999 century, with a 60 series Detroit, love the old truck, it's probably closer to being junk than I would ever admit but the engine was just gone through, all new, could use a tranny swap, but with 800K miles on it I will be driving it for a while, it treats me pretty good
Ryan, how do you think the new Supreme Court ruling concerning the EPA over-stepping their boundaries when it came to emissions will change the game?
gliders that we recieved always had the rear axles in them, the factory isnt dragging that crap down the assembly line with a forklift,
All the trucks hagerstown pete got as gliders came in no rears, they stacked them backwards on the mule truck. Which was usually a brand new one. Thats just my experience
You have to bring two out of three to the table, engine, transmission rear gear, usually when people want new rear ends it's because they want new gears, many times different gear ratio
Thanks Ryan
Welcome!
So, gliders have pre ELD motors? What are the main models of glider motors that one would find in a glider? Not just the Make of the motor, but the model of the motor! Also, can gliders be governed down? Or are they normally wide open trucks?
wtf is an ELD motor? I hope to god you don’t drive trucks for a living.
How can the EPA pass any regulations (laws) without sending a bill through Congress?
Great info; thank you for sharing!
CAN YOU STILL BUILD ONE IN 2023. I OWN A 2014 WESTERN STAR GLIDER NOW WITH A SERIES 60 DETROIT.
Keep it
In theory if you had a small restoration shop and could pick up decent trucks for $30k, invest $50k in parts/labor and then sell the trucks for $100-120k there is probably money to be made. However with the current price of used vehicles and the messed up supply chain you’d probably end up with a lot of money in limbo with half built trucks waiting on parts.
Theoretically it works. But the market is so volatile, we don’t know if the price is still high after the truck is finished. Plus it needs a lot of money.
@@truckingandfixing Very true. I did some quick math and assuming you could restore a truck in 90 days with 5 guys and a shop rate of $200/hr with 1/3rd being profit you'd still make more money just running a standard HD repair shop with less risk/investment. Still restoring older trucks sounds fun and rewarding.
Yes, restoring older trucks is like a hobby. But not practical for me at the moment.
hi is it true glider kits where diesel engines are converted to dual fuel or dedicated types to run on natural gas are also readily available to comply with emission standards? do you have any advice on these conversions?
Can a person buy a wreck truck and them buy a glider to fix it with
No those days are gone, fix it to manufacture specs EDIT, can you buy a cab and frame to fix your wrecked truck, not to do the ultimate delete kit, money wise I don't think it would make sense to do it, I remember back in 2016 I went to Freightliner with my Volvo it had a series 60 Detroit and Eaton fuller 10 speed beautiful running truck that I lost to rust and faulty wiring, I eventually just sold it to a Mexican who took it to Mexico, no lie, but they wanted $90,000 for a day cab Coronado with no engine tranny or rear gears, straight frame out the back, only two tires on the front, WOW, It just didn't make sense to do it, for $50K I would have jumped on it, but no,
Another great video
Thank you!
Can you put an pre emission block on a new truck yourself?
Yes but it's illegal, the Vin must have GG in it (Gliger)for it to be legal
No, if you drive on the road and cross states, federal law applies. It is illegal
I know a guy on Twitter that has a “retitled” truck. He bought it new last year from a dealer in Nebraska. They pulled out the ISX, and replaced it with a 6NZ Cat. They retitled it somehow, maybe a Nebraska loophole ? He runs to California every week, pulling a stainless steel reefer.
Great video
Thank you!
Good information 👍
Thank you!
Is it legal if I put my 1997 detriot diesel 12.7 motor in 2005 kenworth t600?
Both are pre emissions - my assumption would be it is legal.
Yes you can, but if you understand the ISX that you probably have in your truck, I would leave it alone until your engine is junk, then run, my father T600 with ISX gets better fuel mileage than my 2000 Freightliner century with a 60 series Detroit, just saying and it's quieter and has more power, and again what makes you money, better fuel mileage, but I personally would walk away also, unless you know the engine your going to put in your truck it's a gamble buying any used engine, I'm in the process of getting my truck back on the road, it was fully rebuilt, I know this from looking at brand new pistons, but they never changed out the liners, I pulled it down just to do liners, the head gasket won't hold the pressure anymore, only about 25K miles on the rebuild from what we are guessing according to old records
What about a 04 peterbilt that someone had swapped out motor for a 99 6nz?
Perfectly legal because you didn't remove any emissions, but now you don't need a ELD, trucks with engines 2006 and older didn't have any more than a EGR system for emissions and nobody cares about that, it's the newer 2007-09 had dpf filter, then in 2010 they started injecting DEF, into the exhaust system to make the filter hot enough to burn the soot out and keep the filter flowing
Where can I buy a glider?
Probably not new ones, you can still get the used gliders from the truck sales places and private sale
Leave it to the government to cause folks problems.
Instead over in framing a newer truck, put a reman engine in it.
Now these trucks can be fitted with a cummins hydrogen combustion engine
In a back handed way they are telling us that the emissions systems systems are so poor in quality that the rest of the truck will easily out last all of this newer tec that is added for better emissions .maybe some one should start a company offering a complete upgrade system swap for the older out of date systems .It may be cheaper in the long run than all the down time and piece by piece repairs .
You got to be careful. People are swapping new engines and putting old 60s engines and sell them as a glider but this is not factory glider. DOT specify that is illegal to swapped new engine for old 60s series. I think there is a way to notice if is a real glider and not a fake glider that was converted at home
That happen to me lol a true glider has GG in front of the VIN so GGVIN#
@@JeremyB1039what did they do?
You can check out the pre emission and post emission video you recently made 👉 th-cam.com/video/Yd8MMcnp3Yc/w-d-xo.html
after how many miles that truck needs service ?
Can I pull a maxforce engine out swap it with a cummings
No you can’t
It depends, I could be repowered.
I thought the Supreme Court decided the EPA Could only enforce current laws not make and enforce new regulations
Gliders are pretty much banned now
Strange terminology??
It doesn't fly?? Glider kit??
Wet kit?? It's not wet??
It's a hydraulic pump!!
Thanks for the info
A complete failure of the regulators … emissions controls should be affordable and reliable. To quote Richard Nixon, “Little people in big jobs”
This is no longer a free country when you can't drive the truck of your choice.
Please god help me... oh my,, This video is so boring. I think you take part in video editing skills no doubt you are proffesstion truck fixer but seriously i am not interested in seeing this whole video it was like someone had gun at my head its forcing me to watch this. Oh god please help this man. RYAN your content is great but make videos more interesing hope you understand.
🤔 you must be a professional video editor! Please teach me how to edit my video in the future, so it won’t bore you!
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They are great man keep on keepin on brother
Keep doing what you are doing. Haters got hate.
Thank you!
Epa doesn't have the authority to imposed glider should be allowed, its all epa screwing everything up