Singing High Doesn't Work Like This (Here's the RIGHT WAY)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- We all do it. We all think it works, but it doesn't. Andy showed me more reasons this approach is so bad for you. Let Andy show you a better way! Andy's Full Singing & Screaming course is out now!
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Chris can you please react to tavern by netherwalker sometime
Omg I love them@@Bwright-z9p
With this advice I went from "oooo" to "0000"
Haha nice
"That happens to be a note...we don't know what it is" is me every time I'm trying to learn a song
Read this comment before it actually was said and now I’m dead 😂😂
"... I couldn't sing above an Ab..." proceeds to (purposefully) comically miss an actual Ab with no reference, out of the blue. (1:39) 👏
WHYYYYYYYY CAN WE NOT BE SOBER???
@@yurimartins1455 You can be if you want to? 🤷♂️
@@yurimartins1455man of culture
I love how you included an example at the beginning that was really raw. You could hear the little fluctuations in his voice, and more importantly, his tone.
p.s. I also coincidentally started implementing this technique into my practice a couple years ago and noticed a huge improvement. I haven't developed it to the level that Andy's at, but it's nice to know we had a similar approach because it's more evidence to me that it works.
I stumbled across these kinds of sirens one day and it's what allowed me to reach my high falsetto that I'd lost in my 20s and gave me hope that I wouldn't be stuck in a bass range for the rest of my life. Blew my mind. Try it ppl! Best thing I ever did.
"Conversational Sirens" sounds like a cool all-female band 😉
Andy doesn't need any marketing tactic
The moment I see his payed course I'mma buy it immediately 😂
Genious. The vulnerability of showing such exercises... inspires me to just experiment and mess around with my siren!
After 8 years of trying how to get my high notes I finally got the way!! Thank you so much!!!
This is very close to what my teacher tells me to do and I feel validated in choosing her teaching me to sing AND Andy and Chris knowing what they're talking about teaching the right things 👏.
Thank you for offering so much free lessons, Chris. You are a legend.
You guys are amazing ❤
The siren thing really helps to get comfortable with the head voice, Andy is amazing. Also what I learnt from an Italian opera singer on YT is when you sing high notes just like any other notes you don't try to reach "up" that's where to get all stuck but rather hit that high note in your head and just aim right at it
Chris you are truely the best vocal coach on youtube! Your no prestiege attitude and clear explanations has helped me tremendously in my singing journey. I love that you keep bringing guests with different strenghts to explore your own voice and help others, keep it up!
4:17 AND THEN WHAT!? Ahahahah
That got me too hahaha
7:05 amazing Bob Dylan impression
I've been stuck for a while transitioning from scales and lip rolls (which feel easy and smooth) to actually singing and saying words in higher ranges and this is the exact exercise my coach got me to do. This is awesome! So excited for the full course 😍😍
these are the best singing guides on youtube no doubt, so helpful!!
Higher and lower pitched cartoon voices were really good for me to loosen up and get used to 'sounding different' from my speaking voice. It's also a ton of fun. I think the hardest part is I still don't always feel I'm putting more effort into high notes than I need to after I get a bit tired. Getting sirens to connect going up in pitch took a lot of work too for me, and they still break sometimes.
Even though I'd say I'm more of a natural baritone (used to start having trouble around a D but would push to a G poorly) I've been able to sing some Helloween, The Darkness, and Greta Van Fleet decently. I think everyone should take time in their car in the morning to experiment. We all sing in the shower or car. By learning a little bit more about your voice, you can have even more enjoyment singing for fun. You don't need to desire to be a professional singer to want to improve your voice.
I am totally sold, all of those videos of Chris and Andy are all gems! Andy explains very well without scientific words and Chris is vulgarize for beginner like me. You can even see the camaraderie they have together. It is a very good series of videos you have put together Chris and Andy is... omg Andy is soooo good! He is the best Screamer out there! I even bought the Screaming course with Andy and Chris! Man they are so good together, awesome teamwork! A big big thank you!
When Andy demonstrates those conversational siren tones, I just keep thinking how awesome he would be voicing a cartoon character!
This saved my voice before a big gig.
Absolutely phenomenal. Iv been using nang nang and do Re Mi and now I find this and I can already feel a more relaxed feeling throughout my voice. Thank you
lol Andy is so baked
I remember going through this exact journey some years ago, and this made my voice so much more relaxed and smooth. The fact that I can sing for hours without strain today, and how much of a strain I actually put myself through in the past without even realizing, in order to sing higher notes... Nowadays I don't even try to sing anything like I did in the old days, honestly. It FEELS bad. And I honestly thought I was doing things by the book back then, but I'd still get some vocal fatigue from time to time, and a lot more inconsistency in what I could and couldn't sing.
god you guys are nuts. it's crazy how helpful this channel is
Really love these videos you’ve been doing with Andy lately, really great stuff!
By far one of,if not,the BEST and most helpful tip for High Notes,keep it up with these gems Chris👍😎
I see that BloodBorne shirt Andy. I know you a gamer. Fear da blood.
Thanks for sharing this. Basically it's your approach, Chris.
What a great guy!
this video was great. super helpful and reaffirming that im doing something right.
Been waiting for this course for like a year, hell yes
this video was actually incredibly helpful! thank you for sharing 😊
Very helpful video, about 6 months ago I had a pretty poor high voice and over this past 6 months by watching this channel and just general playing around with my voice I have “unlocked” my higher range and not to blow my own trumpet im sounding pretty good now, still room for improvement, there always is, but it’s definitely getting there so thank you.
Also I have learned a great warm up that works for me is singing “loose it all - Sam Tompkins” and also singing (although most of the song isn’t high but certain parts are) “blind eyed (live version) ren/sam Tompkins”. I definitely recommend these songs for not only a general warm up because of the range of vocals but definitely for warming up that higher range
Andy is The Man! I have been a Monuments fan since the beginning, when it was just instrumental tracks uploaded to the internet. Now, it's one of my favorite contemporary metal bands, especially since Andy joined!
I've been practicing developing my vocal range and head voice this past year, and I think this technique seems amazing!
Thanks!
Curious to say, but the conversational thing has ringed some bell in me more on the artistic crafting of oneself's vocal style, than on the pitch which it was originally intended to.
I really think that "conversation" exercise might help with getting a natural singing for those (like me) who tend to be too rigid and think things like "i must respect this metric, i must take these notes".
what a match the two of you are!
Totally awesome 👏 Thank you
Thanks! Great stuff
This will surly be fun
One of the most important video on singing.
Brilliant.
Thank you, guys
I NEEDED this
more videos with Andy I fucking love it!!
great usage of head voice!
Bloodborne shirt spotted! Hell yeah!
WOW! It is really cool!
Nice thanks
Andy looks so baked and that makes this convo even more fun to watch lol
It’s less about volume and more about compressing air. Utilizing diaphragm and different resonance spots in your head. Let the mic do most the work. Also learning to stop trying to sound like the singer you’re covering. I mean you hit the notes and use proper dynamics but a huge breakthrough for singing is finding your tone. Being happy with your own tone.
this was so good to read man, very helpful advice!
The latest Staind album plus Andy had really helped my vocals lately. I’ve always been told to use my diaphragm rather than head voice and now that I’m starting to experiment with both it has really helped me create my own voice.
When I started learning I was walking around a forest sirening my favorite songs, trying to get comfortable with my whole vocal range :) Good technique.
Wow wow wow I love this video
2:52 died laughing but best advice I've ever heard
Great!!!!
I guess we see now Bob Dylan never made it past his slide whistle wailing segment of vocal training
Let the metamorphosis to conversational siren begin
3:20 "Stretching out, like a rubber band".
Bootsy Collins has entered the chat.......
Man, Jimmy Pesto Jr. from Bob's Burgers is a great singer and teacher. Much Talent 👍👍👍
It’s really helpful that you’re exposing us to how ridiculous vocal exploration sounds. It is incredibly ridiculous, but by connecting it to what we can achieve through it, it becomes an almost secret sauce that most people are too embarrassed to do.
I actually think I found my way to access mixed voice by imitating Gollum 😄I had been experimenting with the dying cat approach for quite some time, but it was pretty inconsistent. One day, however, I was fooling around with Teenage Dirtbag and went into a (clean) Gollum voice and suddenly hit those high notes without any effort whatsoever. I guess the thing with Gollum is that, if it sounds really bad and whiney, you're nailing it. Or at least I'd like to think that for me it was a way to abandon the idea of sounding 'good' in order to practice more freely. Anyhow, repeat after me:
WE'RE LOOKING FOR BILBO BAGGINS PRECIOUS
LOOKING FOR BILBO BAGGINS PRECIOUS
BECAUSE FILTHY BAGGINS STOLE OUR PRECIOUS
THE THIEF
OOOOHHH
🤣🤣🤣
Voice Acting training for Character voices really helps
I sound exactly like the siren
when I'm trying to sing for real
Funny video.
I do different. Dont know how but I can do: I listen to a higher word of a song and think to myself "lets try to go into that range!" And after a few tries... Voi la la! Soft, but its there!
Next step is trying to stay in that range as long as I can and trying to push a bit and: most important thing is relaxing the hole body ...
Good luck!
He was speaking like a cartoon character at 4:30.
oh thank god
The funny thing is that top opera singers basically say the same thing: you start from the ugly sireny noise as a starting point and then flesh that out.
I'm amazed by Andys vocalabilities and I wish I could scream at least a little like him. But one thing I noticed in this video especially is, that he is really tensing his throat and pushing his jaw forward when hitting higher notes. Doesnt this affect his voice? For me this has been a huge problem for many years and I had to and still kinda have to unlearn this everytime I sing in order to stay relaxed and not get tight in the throat. This to me is actually the hard part about using mixed voice. Was just wondering if he is aware of doing it and how he manages to not get tight in the throat when sunging like this.
I don’t think it’s about tensing up, but more about shaping your vocal tract for better tone and resonance. I’m a beginner and I’ve recently started playing around with opening my mouth wider, and it has a lot of positive side effects - I feel like I have more room with the placement and more stability when trying to place the sound in the middle, which also helps to make a smoother change between high and low placement. It also means that I can push more air more confidently, which obviously creates bigger resistance from the vocal cords, but it’s not the same as the neck tension in the context of chest pulling. And the feeling is very different - one is tensing up and another one is projecting. At least in my beginner book 😁
That siren/glide/glissando might have helped mw too
Im totally into the eyes closed obnoxious sound...guess im good.🎉
I've wanted to sing The Widow from The Mars Volta, but I can't really sing as high as he can. This looks helpful.
😊😊😊
Your one lesson with “I told you not to do that” pretty much does the exact thing.
yeah... you're right! It's neat to see other vocalists arrive at the exact same stuff in different ways and then be able to articulate it. It shows students the path to follow that would be otherwise less credible if it was just one person saying it. It's also cool when these collaborators show me something that I hadn't felt out or maybe was looking at something not quite right and they correct me... I learn something both ways!
Hi Chris i wanna thank you for your Vibrato video, thats the only video that really helped me find my Vibrato, but i came across another problem is that it's fast, close to tremolo, i strugge to slow it down when singing a slow song, fast vibrato sounds awful when using it to a slow song, please make another video how to learn to slow it down. Thank you so much. More subs to you.❤
It is three things everyday(some days): siren, talking loudly authority voice and shouting ship ahoy.
This I read is "Voice Doctor" advice. What is it in english spezialized vocal cords for surgeries?
Doctor Who😂?
I want to add that higher pitch notes develop when you sing with the lowest pitch of the voice register. That way so you can understand, take clean head voice and go as low as possible... the tone should sound like underwater... try to sing several days or weeks in low head voice... with proper rest and exercise you going to notice your head voice strength, control and range extended.
Now, try to get same thing but with whistle register... I had 1 note available with whistle register 3 years ago, but now I have like full octave of whistle register... not only that, but whistle and head voice register have mixed notes available, making my vocal range big...
BTW hitting higher notes requires more whistle register position than head voice and almost no chest voice register...
I can sing Maroon 5 songs with ease while I am bass voice.
I'm happy to see comments like this. It's surprising how many singers or vocal coaches will dub the whistle/flute register/M3 as "useless". Glad to see another lower range vocalist not fall prey to this limiting belief 👍
That happens to be a note... we dont know what it is... but... lol
Chris, please check out James Lewis vocals. I've never heard another singer that has such a supported clean tone. You'll know what I mean when you hear it. Song suggestion: The Neologist - Dark Horizons (2nd chorus starting at around 2:35).
The practice session at 6:48 reminds me of Cirith Ungol - King of the Dead
😭😭😭 These are happy tears. I just stepped away from the mic after an hour of trying to work out a high belted phrase that seemed impossible. If I pushed my chest, it thinned out and sounded strained. If I sang it full head, it sounded too light. My mix sounded thin buuutttt then I watched this video and tried the siren with speaking and there it was 😭😭😭 The high mix with a weight to it that I wasn’t getting before. 🤩🥳 🎉 Thank you Chris & Andy 🙏🥰
Andy is The man for Linkin Park🤌
He's already with Termina...
No thank you. There’s better candidates out there
Love this wowwwwwww
My range is G2-C5. I have to warm up to get that high. If I don't, then I sound like a dying cat.😂
I sound like a dying cat trying to cough up a hairball... especially when trying to scream.
Same
Spongebob technique works to, it's the next step after chest
i learnt the exact same way Andy did. I tried for 8 years to get my mix to activate but then randomly figured out I was doing it the whole time and didnt know. I naturally love to voice act and mimic people (I'm an asshole ahhaah), but pretending I was a devilish little girl somehow clicked into my brain 😂.
If you've never reacted to Lawrence. PLEASE DO. Gracie has one of the greatest voices on the planet. Especially when talking head voice. Try "I'm confident I'm insecure"
Please do Fountaines D.C - ”Favourite”!!!
I guess doing a snagglepuss impression is the secret to high notes, raaange even
So basically do a Marty McFly impression lol
The siren voice singing is the best I can come up with in the shower.
Thank you spider man!!!
ASK HIM ABOUT THE PARAMORE COVER PLEASSSSSEEEE CHRISSSSSSS. I HAVE TO KNOW NOW!
Can you do a vocal analysis on a song called “life hates us now” covered by mafumafu?
Hey Chris ! I think you should try listening to Palaye Royal, they're a really good band, not very well known despite their talent, and I'd love you to do a vocal analysis of their music.
You can't "mix" chest and head voice, they are two distinct mechanisms that are mutually exclusive and cannot be combined. What the "mixed voice" really is, is just head voice manipulated to sound more similar in timbre to chest voice than it normally would. And "head voice" itself just falsetto done with a less "hooty" timbre. Try it out yourself, if you do it right you can start a note in falsetto, slide it into head voice whilst still singing the same note, and then slide into "mix", all without any vocal break occurring. Ultimately there is only chest voice and falsetto, plus manipulation of timbre. From the point of view of what the vocal cords are doing, it's all the same mechanism. This is why Axl Rose sounds like Mickey Mouse on the high notes now - he's just not as capable any more of manipulating the sound and power of his falsetto into raspy scream mode.
While this might be true this is not helpful in any way. It's much more intuitive to say "mix your head voice with chest voice" instead of "head voice manipulated to sound more similar to chest voice".
You could go and simplify it even further by saying that there is no chest voice or falsetto at all, it is just vocal fold vibration in different ways but whats the point.
It's all just made up terminology to make it easier to grasp.
@@arnisgustins It doesn't make it easier to grasp though. Calling it a "mix" doesn't illuminate anything about 1) what it is, or 2) how you're supposed to actually DO it.
And as to your second point, no, chest voice and falsetto are two very different things that it's easy to tell apart and to produce. That's why the idea is useful, because it represents a solid reality. And pointing out that "mix" is a modified falsetto actually gives people the CORRECT starting point for trying to do it.
Otherwise you're left with countless people _trying_ to do a mix and failing, and a few lucky ones managing to fall into doing it completely by accident before giving up entirely.
@@CommodoreGrayumthe reality is, getting specific about the mechanism doesn’t help anyone, because we don’t have that level of proprioception of our vocal tract. Teaching people how to sing is getting people to try to mimic sounds, explaining things in weird metaphorical ways, and hoping they accidentally do it right, and then do it again, until they know how it feels. It’s all nonsense, and it kind of has to be. You can’t tell someone to close their false folds over their vocal folds, unless they already know what it feels like to move their false folds independently, for example.
@@Randuski Except this is not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the difference between doing chest voice and doing falsetto. Which everyone understands perfectly well. Add to that modulating air flow, breath support, adding compression via pressure and constriction, and changing the posture of the face and larynx to change the tonality. These are all things that are understandable and can be done deliberately, and are not beyond people's proprioceptive abilities.
You're basically making excuses for bad advice, by claiming that better advice is somehow impossible. Sure, various subtleties can only be felt out by experimentation, like with literally any physical skill, but this notion that the fundamentals can't be talked about accurately and usefully, and that instead you have to resort to untrue nonsense (which is somehow... better?), is completely wrong.
@@CommodoreGrayum changing the posture to the face is a great example of what I was saying. That is not a mechanical explanation of what’s going on. Because, telling someone exactly how to flex the musculature of the vocal tract to achieve that result would mean nothing to anyone. So, you use words like posture, or placement, to give someone an idea of what something should feel like.
Listen to Japan's Number_i's INZM.
The group continues to try new music, but this song is mixture rock.
The song is produced by the members.
This week, Bilbo ranked first in Japan.
I want people who love music to listen to it.
Laryngeal mechanicms cannot be mixed due to their physiology. There are many studies that prove this check them out. "Mixing your voice" is not possible. The way you develop "mix" is by learning how to soften chest voice (m1 register) and strengthening head/falsseto (m2 register) so it has more of a chest quality and making a break unnoticeable. Basically your just manipulating the resonance. Andy is an amazing singer and chris an amazing coach, but this mixed voice terminology might confuse allot of people. In the end the science stuff doesnt matter, sounding good for you and having fun matters, but all this terminology might keep people from having progress with their voice and make them frustrated. Hope I could help. Love you both
Maybe your understanding is Just wrong. Mixing means that the Sound or the perception of your voice is Mixed :)
@davidmertens4737 and what does that mean exactly? Proves my point kinda. Singing terminology is all over the place
@@davidmertens4737 you don't necessarily have to know what you're doing to be a great singer. But trying to access an intermediate mechanism that doesn't exist is definitely going to hold you back
@@amorphic69 might be true for some people.
@@davidmertens4737 whatever works for you bro. But don't argue with the facts. They are only there to help
DANNY GONZALES?