The biggest danger of the Hebrew Roots Movement exposed
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- Let's talk about the personal and practical side of Torahism for followers of Jesus and what I believe is the biggest danger of Hebrew Roots theology. Our source text is Philippians 3 for talking about living out our faith and how Hebrew Roots theology and being a Torah-observant Christian can lead us away from the heart of our heavenly Father.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 One of the biggest dangers of Torahism
01:21 Philippians 3:2-11
03:17 Let's break it down - Dogs and evildoers (Judaizers)
05:30 Paul's impeccable credentials
06:29 The apostle Paul's conversion
08:13 Where should our confidence be placed?
13:03 Wrap it up, Solberg
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Hablemos del lado personal y práctico del toraísmo para los seguidores de Jesús y lo que creo que es el mayor peligro de la teología de raíces hebreas. Nuestro texto fuente es Filipenses 3 para hablar sobre vivir nuestra fe y cómo la teología de raíces hebreas y ser un cristiano observador de la Torá puede alejarnos del corazón de nuestro Padre celestial.
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In 2021, my wife and I went to a concert where a Messianic Jew would be performing his songs. It was held in a church that when I entered it I thought it was odd. The lady pastor there said something about the Torah that to me was a red flag that this was no ordinary congregation. She said to the people there that we should pray to bless the Torah. When I arrived home I searched TH-cam to find a teaching on what I had heard there. Praise Yahweh God I found your channel and after watching a few videos on Torahism I now know it's leading people away from Yeshua. Thank you brother Solberg!
Thank you, David. God is good!
Blessings, Rob
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PAULS / SHAUL'S WRITINGS TWISTED AS KEPHA/ PETER WARNRD
@@anonymouslyconcerned - And YOU are twisting and misrepresenting Peter's words - which is the very thing Peter was warning about.
That's about the silliest thing I've ever heard. Maybe you should pay attention next time. I know of no group on earth that believes that.
@@fredgillespie5855 To sell a book. Look there are clear cults all around us. He choose to attack the ones that keep God's law out of respect for the father all the while very clearly stating its not for salvation. He attacks those? why? because it helps the sell of his book.
Praise God! I came out of the Seventh Day Adventist church last year and became a Christian! The SDA also believe that the Old Testament law keeping is required. They are like the Hebrew root’s movement that way.
Don’t they also believe that Ellen white was a prophet? That her inspired writings are from God?
How did you come out of that?
Did you read the Bible for yourself and the Lord revealed truth ?
Praise God!
This was where the HR movement sprung from. 😔
@@kellydorney3514 Really?! Thanks for sharing this information!
That's ironic because I always felt entrapped with the Baptist doctrines. When I realized that Jesus kept the law and said he wasn't done away with it, it opened my eyes more. I was happy to take on the 7th day adventist doctrines, except keeping the lunar sabbath, the true calendar of the sky. I was always rejected by people in the Sunday church and/or technology world and I knew it had something to do with how Jesus was rejected. I don't think that someone could understand if they were simply raised in a church, because it takes personal decisions to learn how to become personally rejected. It doesn't seem like something you can just teach someone.
@@TimJSwan Seventh Day Adventists believe in an Investigative Judgment. This happened when William Millers false predictions of Jesus return in 1844 didn’t happen. They said that instead of Jesus being seated at Gods right hand in heaven that he is up there judging everyone. Every one is on a “probation”.
SDA believe that once they are “saved” they have to keep the Ten Commandments in order to retain salvation. They are on probation because Jesus is in heaven doing this judgement and so they can’t be sure of their saved status.
SDA believe in soul sleep. They lie and tell people that Jesus kept the law and showed us that perfect law keeping is possible. He came to FULFILL the law because man was unable to keep it perfectly. Remember in the Old Testament how if you broke it you broke it ALL?
This religion preached a different gospel. They are accursed Galatians chapter 1.
We are saved by faith. Not works. Once we are saved our hearts are changed by GOD. We are then charged. Salvation is simple. The gospel is simple.
My thumbnail is from a book I wrote defending Torah observance but with the correct perspective. Believe it or not, there are some really good Torah teachers that understand we put NO confidence in Torah observance, there is NO salvation found in the law, and following the law does not lead to any kind of righteousness of our own. First, we must understand that the law is God's rigtheousness NOT ours as stated in Ps. 119:172. The use of Phil. 3 is 100% correct. Paul, who was once a Pharisee of Pharisees, now realizes that all that he was doing by being obedient to the law, and following all the rabbinic teachings meant nothing. Why? Because he still fell short! The law is NOT the problem! The problem is our fallen natures!! It is our inablility to walk out God's righteousness perfectly, and that is what you are trying to do when you are keeping the law without Christ!!! The law is merciless. It can only tell you what to do, it shows you God's righteousness, but it is powerless to make you obey it. All the law can do is tell you what sin is. That is why the letter kills. The wages of sin(or law breaking) is death. So, you have a major problem if you are going to attempt to walk out the law in your fallen state. Why? Because the very law you are going to walk out requires perfection and in your fallen state that is impossible, and now the very law you were attempting to keep, condemns you to death.
Now here is the true gospel message. God did something about the problem, which is our fallen nature, NOT his righteous laws! Christianity as a whole is missing this VERY important part. God's law is NOT the problem!! Throughout the bible you will not read anywhere that God's law is this burdensome thing that we keep for our salvation. NO! Salvation was never offered through law keeping. The true gospel is that God clothed His word in flesh, and this flesh walked out His righteous laws perfectly. The enemy thought he won when he crucified Him, but the grave could not hold Him, since He was without sin, it HAD to release Him! The enemy put a righteous man to death and since He was without sin, He was raised to life! This perfect man became our Messiah! And through Him, He will put His spirit in me and change me. I come to him in disobedience, but He puts His spirit in me and that spirit leads me into all truth. Truth, according to Ps. 119: 142, and 151 is His commandments and His law! NOW, he writes His righteous laws on my heart and changes my desire to WANT to obey out of love, NOT salvation! Grace is given as I learn to walk out God's righteousness, which is His law! You don't need grace if you are not going to walk in obedience. In fact, grace is ONLY given to those who are remembering His commandments and to do them according to Ps. 103:17,18.
I will admit, there are some very heretical teachings within the HRM. In fact, I really dislike that term because their views are all over the place. The good Torah teachers understand that we are in a NEW Covenant, not renewed. We are under no delusions that there ARE changes in the law, out of necessity, with the change of the priesthood. We are NOT under the Levitical laws, we are under a new order of High Priest in the order of Melchizedek. We are not looking forward to the temple being built and going there to make sacrifices as we believe our Messiah paid the price for sacrifices ONCE for ALL!! We follow the law, through our Messiah who is writing the law on our hearts and we WANT to walk in obedience because we love Him. God has always wanted obedience from His children, but out of love, NOT for salvation!! I will never understand how obedience is now a bad thing, and that if I desire to walk in obedience, I am somehow giving up grace. That makes NO sense. God is the one who is changing me, He gets all the credit, and all the glory. I cannot boast in the law, my boast is in Him, who is changing me from someone who did not want to walk in obedience to someone who does! That is really what Paul is talking about in Phil. 3. He gets it! He cannot boast in his own righteousness, he only glolifies only in his Messiah!
Our minds are at enmity against God and are not subject to His law. But through the risen Christ, I obey through His spirit and when I make mistakes, His grace covers me. Grace and law go together, they are NOT mutually exclusive from one another. This, "the law is done away with now," mentality is killing the church. Everyone is doing what is right in their own sight because without the law, there is nothing to define sin! We have this hyper grace where there is NO conviction of sin. Without that conviction, there is no fear and without fear there is lawlessness. This is why pastors are accepting homosexuals into their congregations and some churches even follow gay pastors. The law is needed, the law is perfect, converting the soul(Ps. 9:7.) It cannot convert any soul if we continue to teach that it has been done away with. Please reconsider this very flawed doctrine of the law is done away with and we now follow the law of Christ, which is simply defined as love God and love your neighbor as yourself. There is so much more to accepting Christ as your savior. Biblical faith is beliving in Chist and allowing Him to lead you into obedience to His Father's righteous laws. Something perfect is NOT a burden and could not possibly be done away with! Our flesh is the problem, NOT God's righteous laws, so stop making them the problem!!
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 Thank you for your kind words!! I wrote a book that was a rebuttal to another man’s book that came against Torah obedience in the life of a believer in Christ. It was very similar to Mr. Solberg’s book, Torahism. I’ve read Torahism and there are many errors in it. His chapter on the Sabbath being one of the worst. I’ve yet to hear a sound biblical reason for not observing it!! I am in the process of starting my own channel and Mr. Solberg’s teachings are about to be challenged! I put out a couple of power point teachings and just released my introductory video with more to come! Check it out: Restoration of All Things.
You are definitely the problem. The Mosaic law was a temporary law for escaped Hebrew slaves, an exclusive group of humans- so there is one problem right there; the law was not universal. Here’s the writer of Hebrews proving you are wrong- ouch, being wrong must really hurt your huge ego. “ Now if perfection were attainable through the Levitical priesthood ( for through it the people received the law), what need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed the law is necessarily changed as well.” Hebrews 7:11-12. The Mosaic law was unable to perfect a person. It was an indictment against rebellious Hebrews. It was weak, useless, and became obsolete. The entire Jewish system was temporary. You have been captured and bewitched. I get it- you want to be a Jew. Jews are going to eternal hell.
So which is it dog? You obey like a dog or you do your best? Doing your best falls far short of the glorious perfection of Christ. Law and grace do not hold hands. You are not a Christian.,
@@rayray4192 I like to use scripture to defend what I believe as much as possible. All you did was tell me what you believe and what is in your heart.
Obey like a dog?? Where does the bible ever say we obey like dogs? Obedience, everywhere in scripture is tied to blessings, so I don't know where you are coming from. I do NOT believe that we obey for any kind of righteousness of our own, I don't think it earns us any kind of merit, and it affords me absolutely nothing unless I have Christ. You see, the obedience comes in when I place my faith in Christ. He places His Spirit in me and this changes me. His Spirit, according to John 16:13 leads us into all truth. Truth, according to scripture is found in Ps. 119:142 which tells us His law is truth! The sole purpose of the law is to define what sin is! That is all it does, it was NEVER designed to save anyone, ever!! Paul even tells us that the law is holy, just, and good. Why do you have such hatred towards it??
Christ is the one who is changing me from one who once walked in enmity against Him, to one who wants to obey out of love, NOT SALVATION!!!!. This is found in Rom. 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enimity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. You do not understand the difference between walking in the flesh and walking in the spirit and this is why you believe that obedience to the law is impossible and you would be 100% correct. That is the weakness in the law, it is powerless to make anyone obey it, it can only tell you what sin is! Rom. 8:3 tells you this. God has always wanted obedience from us, but out of our love for Him, NOT FOR SALVATION!!!
You also probably think I am meaning the entirety of the law of Moses given at Sinai, and I am NOT saying we obey all the laws given at Sinai! There are absolutely changes in the law, out of necessity, due to the change in the priesthood and Hebrews 7:12 tells us.
Lastly, you say grace and law do not go together. Scripture disagees with you. Read Ps. 103: 17, 18 "But the mercy(grace) of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting on those who fear Him, and His righteousness to children's children. 👉To such as keep His covenant, and to those who remember His commandments to do them.👈" You do not need grace if you are not going to obey Him. What is the purpose of grace, if you are not going to obey?? You see, I need grace because I am still in a fallen state. I cannot walk in obedience due to this fallen state. This is the problem God is fixing. We are ALL in this fallen state, but God requires obedience to HIS righteousness! So, God sent His son clothed Him in flesh and He walked out perfect obedience! This met God's requirements of perfect obedience. So, now we are represented in Christ and no longer Adam. This is the game changer! Now it is Christ that dwells in me and give me the power to overcome sin! Now He is going to begin to change me, through His Spirit. I will still make mistakes, because I am in a fallen state and I am learning what it means to walk in obedience. This is where the grace comes in!!! Grace and Law absolutely, 100%, go hand in hand! They are not mutually exclusive from one another!!
You are following a religious system that has taught you all you need is Christ and He expects nothing from you otherwise that is "works" and "works" are bad. The bible teaches about two different kinds of works. There is the work of the flesh, which is what you are referring to when you think that I am obeying "like a dog" to earn some kind of righteousness of my own. Then there is the work of the spirit. This is where I place my faith in Christ for my salvation and then He begins to change me and I obey out of my love for Him and I seek to do what pleases Him! This obedience is pleasing to Him. 1 John 2:3 "Now by this we know that we know Him,👉if we keep His commandments.👈 He who says he knows Him but does NOT keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him." And before you go and say this verse is referring to the law of Christ, just read on down to verse 7!
If you got this far, I would be shocked, but in case you did, I would say you got some studying to do.
Yours in Christ!
@@RestorationofallThings we aren’t writing papers for review. It’s You Tube comments.
I started dating a guy who was into torahism ( caused me to go to scripture and my faith grew a lot though our relationship didnt) he argued that Torah was Gods preferred way we lived and that is was superior. He would call me lawless and assumed i held extreme and/or progressive Christianity veiws when i didnt. I went to scripture and saw what my boyfriend believed had little to do with Jesus though I think he sincerely started the path down torahism out of a love for God and christ and believed it to be fallowing in Christ’s foot steps, but it absolutely led Him away from Christ. For months I made a point to emphasize my faith in Christ alone and pointing back to Jesus (Much to my boyfriend’s confusion and attempts to divert the conversation)
Anyone who claims they are keeping the Torah, which only Christ accomplished, is breaking the 9th commandment.
@@SpotterVideo do you mean
‘Dont lie’
Or the
“Dont bear false witnesses against your neighbor”?
Made the mistake of saying the first one day and He blew up on the fact Christian are inaccurate as to what the 9th commandment is and means… after studying and deliberation I have no problem saying the first. Though a bit misguided and overly zealous in expression he did have a heart to be accurate with scripture. Though I found him to not be as accurate in application sadly though he sincerely believes he is.
In my opinion your comment applies either way, he was either lying about his ability to keep the torah, or bearing false witness against me calling me lawless and the like
Torahism is not a word
Roman Catholic and Protestant Confessions about Sunday
The vast majority of Christian churches today teach the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, as a time for rest and worship. Yet it is generally known and freely admitted that the early Christians observed the seventh day as the Sabbath. How did this change come about?
History reveals that it was decades after the death of the apostles that a politico-religious system repudiated the Sabbath of Scripture and substituted the observance of the first day of the week. The following quotations, all from Roman Catholic sources, freely acknowledge that there is no Biblical authority for the observance of Sunday, that it was the Roman Church that changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week.
In the second portion of this booklet are quotations from Protestants. Undoubtedly all of these noted clergymen, scholars, and writers kept Sunday, but they all frankly admit that there is no Biblical authority for a first-day sabbath.
Roman Catholic Confessions
James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.
"But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."
Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed., p. 174.
"Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
"Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."
John Laux, A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies (1 936), vol. 1, P. 51.
"Some theologians have held that God likewise directly determined the Sunday as the day of worship in the New Law, that He Himself has explicitly substituted the Sunday for the Sabbath. But this theory is now entirely abandoned. It is now commonly held that God simply gave His Church the power to set aside whatever day or days she would deem suitable as Holy Days. The Church chose Sunday, the first day of the week, and in the course of time added other days as holy days."
Daniel Ferres, ed., Manual of Christian Doctrine (1916), p.67.
"Question: How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
"Answer. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of, and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church.'
James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.
"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!
"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"
The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."
Catholic Virginian Oct. 3, 1947, p. 9, art. "To Tell You the Truth."
"For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the[Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible."
Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.
"Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
"Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Answer. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
Martin J. Scott, Things Catholics Are Asked About (1927),p. 136.
"Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday .... Now the Church ... instituted, by God's authority, Sunday as the day of worship. This same Church, by the same divine authority, taught the doctrine of Purgatory long before the Bible was made. We have, therefore, the same authority for Purgatory as we have for Sunday."
Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Society (1975),Chicago, Illinois.
"Regarding the change from the observance of the Jewish Sabbath to the Christian Sunday, I wish to draw your attention to the facts:
"1) That Protestants, who accept the Bible as the only rule of faith and religion, should by all means go back to the observance of the Sabbath. The fact that they do not, but on the contrary observe the Sunday, stultifies them in the eyes of every thinking man.
"2) We Catholics do not accept the Bible as the only rule of faith. Besides the Bible we have the living Church, the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide us. We say, this Church, instituted by Christ to teach and guide man through life, has the right to change the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament and hence, we accept her change of the Sabbath to Sunday. We frankly say, yes, the Church made this change, made this law, as she made many other laws, for instance, the Friday abstinence, the unmarried priesthood, the laws concerning mixed marriages, the regulation of Catholic marriages and a thousand other laws.
"It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which there is nothing in their Bible."
T. Enright, C.S.S.R., in a lecture at Hartford, Kansas, Feb. 18,1884.
"I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says, 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says: 'No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.' And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church."
Protestant Confessions
Protestant theologians and preachers from a wide spectrum of denominations have been quite candid in admitting that there is no Biblical authority for observing Sunday as a sabbath.
Anglican/Episcopal
Isaac Williams, Plain Sermons on the Catechism , vol. 1, pp.334, 336.
"And where are we told in the Scriptures that we are to keep the first day at all? We are commanded to keep the seventh; but we are nowhere commanded to keep the first day .... The reason why we keep the first day of the week holy instead of the seventh is for the same reason that we observe many other things, not because the Bible, but because the church has enjoined it."
Canon Eyton, The Ten Commandments , pp. 52, 63, 65.
"There is no word, no hint, in the New Testament about abstaining from work on Sunday .... into the rest of Sunday no divine law enters.... The observance of Ash Wednesday or Lent stands exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday."
Bishop Seymour, Why We Keep Sunday .
We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of the one holy Catholic Church."
Baptist
Dr. Edward T. Hiscox, a paper read before a New York ministers' conference, Nov. 13, 1893, reported in New York Examiner , Nov.16, 1893.
"There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week .... Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament absolutely not.
"To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years' intercourse with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question . . . never alluded to any transference of the day; also, that during forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated.
"Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history . . . . But what a pity it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!"
William Owen Carver, The Lord's Day in Our Day , p. 49.
"There was never any formal or authoritative change from the Jewish seventh-day Sabbath to the Christian first-day observance."
Congregationalist
Dr. R. W. Dale, The Ten Commandments (New York: Eaton &Mains), p. 127-129.
" . . . it is quite clear that however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath - . . 'Me Sabbath was founded on a specific Divine command. We can plead no such command for the obligation to observe Sunday .... There is not a single sentence in the New Testament to suggest that we incur any penalty by violating the supposed sanctity of Sunday."
Timothy Dwight, Theology: Explained and Defended (1823), Ser. 107, vol. 3, p. 258.
" . . . the Christian Sabbath [Sunday] is not in the Scriptures, and was not by the primitive Church called the Sabbath."
@@nancycorbin7317 The 4th commandment was the “sign” of the Sinai Covenant now found to be “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:13.
Paul revealed the temporary nature of the Sinai Covenant in Galatians 3:16-29. Paul said the law was “added” 430 years “after” the promise made to Abraham “until” the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made. Jesus used the same word “until” in Matthew 5:17-18.
In Galatians 4:24-31 Paul told the Galatian believers to “cast out” the Sinai Covenant of “bondage”.
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. Instead, we are come to the New Covenant of Mount Zion in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Col 2:16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,
Col 2:17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ; (YLT)
Early Church Fathers who lived before the Council of Nicaea on the Sabbath:
Ignatius of Antioch
If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death-whom some deny, by which mystery we have obtained faith, and therefore endure, that we may be found the disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Master(Letter to the Magnesians(shorter) Chapter IX.-Let us live with Christ [A.D. 110]).
During the Sabbath He continued under the earth in the tomb in which Joseph of Arimathæa had laid Him. At the dawning of the Lord’s day He arose from the dead, according to what was spoken by Himself, “As Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man also be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” The day of the preparation, then, comprises the passion; the Sabbath embraces the burial; the Lord’s Day contains the resurrection(The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians Longer Versions. Chapter IX.-Reference to the history of Christ.)
Justin Martyr
The Lawgiver is present, yet you do not see Him; to the poor the Gospel is preached, the blind see, yet you do not understand. You have now need of a second circumcision, though you glory greatly in the flesh. The new law requires you to keep perpetual sabbath, and you, because you are idle for one day, suppose you are pious, not discerning why this has been commanded you: and if you eat unleavened bread, you say the will of God has been fulfilled. The Lord our God does not take pleasure in such observances: if there is any perjured person or a thief among you, let him cease to be so; if any adulterer, let him repent; then he has kept the sweet and true sabbaths of God. If any one has impure hands, let him wash and be pure.(Dialogue with Trypho the Jew Chapter XII.-The Jews violate the eternal law, and interpret ill that of Moses.)
For we too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined you,-namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your hearts. For if we patiently endure all things contrived against us by wicked men and demons, so that even amid cruelties unutterable, death and torments, we pray for mercy to those who inflict such things upon us, and do not wish to give the least retort to any one, even as the new Lawgiver commanded us: how is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us, -I speak of fleshly circumcision, and Sabbaths, and feasts?(Dialogue with Trypho the Jew Chapter XVIII.-Christians would observe the law, if they did not know why it was instituted. [A.D. 155]).
And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday,1 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.(First Apology Chapter LXVII.-Weekly worship of the Christians. [A.D. 155]).
“Wherefore, Trypho, I will proclaim to you, and to those who wish to become proselytes, the divine message which I heard from that man. Do you see that the elements are not idle, and keep no Sabbaths? Remain as you were born. For if there was no need of circumcision before Abraham, or of the observance of Sabbaths, of feasts and sacrifices, before Moses; no more need is there of them now, after that, according to the will of God, Jesus Christ the Son of God has been born without sin, of a virgin sprung from the stock of Abraham. For when Abraham himself was in uncircumcision, he was justified and blessed by reason of the faith which he reposed in God, as the Scripture tells. Moreover, the Scriptures and the facts themselves compel us to admit that He received circumcision for a sign, and not for righteousness.(The Second Apology of Justin for the Christians Addressed to the Roman Senate. Chapter XXIII.-The opinion of the Jews regarding the law does an injury to God.)
“As, then, circumcision began with Abraham, and the Sabbath and sacrifices and offerings and feasts with Moses, and it has been proved they were enjoined on account of the hardness of your people’s heart, so it was necessary, in accordance with the Father’s will, that they should have an end in Him who was born of a virgin, of the family of Abraham and tribe of Judah, and of David; in Christ the Son of God, who was proclaimed as about to come to all the world, to be the everlasting law and the everlasting covenant, even as the forementioned prophecies show.(The Second Apology of Justin for the Christians Addressed to the Roman Senate. Chapter XLIII.-He concludes that the law had an end in Christ, who was born of the Virgin.)
Tertullian
“[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1-7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised-yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath-God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God”(An Answer to the Jews Chapter II.-The Law Anterior to Moses. [A.D. 203]).
Hey R.L. another good teaching. I've been in Hebrew roots (HR) for 8 1/2 years now. Within HR you got the Torah Terrorists of which I was once one, who's zealousness for the Law goes overboard into a ditch. Then you have the mature brethren in HR who have Torah as almost an unspoken lifestyle and the focus is Christ and discipleship in the great commission. Praise the LORD he helped me mature. That passage in Philippians is definitely a go to when rebuking Torah Terrorists in the fellowship.
Great to hear you you’ve mellowed with time. Practical question though. If you break the law/Torah today in 2022 how do you reconcile yourself with God?
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I go to the High Priest in Heaven Yeshua of Nazareth and repent and go to my brothers in the fellowship and confess my sin and ask for prayer. Then strive to no longer commit that sin.
So if you go to Jesus as high priest why are you TO? If you’re truly TO, not one jot or tittle is done away with. You need to make sacrifices for your sin. And if you say you can’t because the temple isn’t standing and we don’t have the Levites then you aren’t truly going to Jesus anyway.
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The offering and Sacrifices in a working Levitical temple are seen as coverings to the flesh Heb. 9-13 and not even Yom Kippur offerings were ever able to forgive sin in the spiritual sense Heb. 10:4 . We still believe the feasts and Sacrifices will happen in the Millienial kingdom. Zech. Chapter 14 and Ezekiel 40:9 / 45:15. So to be clear, until the king restores all things the Levitical system is N/A. And even when its applicable it's not for a spiritual removal of sin, only Yeshua's blood and trust in him removes that sin.
@@mrb.woodyharrelson4393 In the 613 laws none of them give instructions on what to do if you can't uphold one of them. On what authority to you make the Levitical system N/A?
I know someone who turned from Christianity to Judaism. He said that he wants to do everything that Torah says and reason was obedience at first. For a while he said that he does not put any confidence his own works or his ability to follow God's law. He said he has total confidence in Christ. Today he thinks it is faith and works that saves us and he is trying to convert people into Judaism. Oh how I wish that he comes back and believes the real Gospel. Salvation through grace by faith alone in Jesus Christ and His atoning work on the cross.
Thanks, Heikki! I have seen that happen, too. Hebrew Roots is sometimes a doorway through which someone walks away from Jesus and into Judaism. And it's very sad!
Rob
Oliko kyseinen henkilö aivan suomalainen itse? Sionismi on valitettavasti Suomessakin "kristityille" tavallista, mutta judaismiin (tätä suomennosta tarvitaan) kääntyminen oletettavasti harvinaisempaa.
This is a problem that I acknowledge has happened to some who pursue Torah. It is akin to those who have no depth of understanding trying to reason with Mormons or JWs. And then they get pulled in by them.
We Torah pursuant need to be very clear with everyone that salvation is in no other. There is no one who does what is good and never sins. Doing Torah can never be justificational.
I find that many Torah pursuing believers have little actual biblical training. There are also some really terrible “Hebrew Roots” groups who get off in the weeds of Kabbalah and all the sages writings. Those writings are only useful with the clear understanding and desire to give cultural context to the Text. And even then these Jewish writings should be handled with care by well trained teachers and pastors.
Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and it is by the Torah that we know what sin is (Romans 3:20), so while we do not earn our salvation as the result of obeying it, living in obedience to it through faith in Jesus is nevertheless intrinsically part of concept of him saving us from not living in obedience to it.
God is trustworthy, therefore the Torah is also trustworthy (Psalms 19:7), so the way to have faith in God is by following what He has instructed. Relying on our own works does not involve relying on anyone else, so it is contradictory to think that by relying on what God has instructed we are relying on our own works in stead of relying on Him.
In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Torah was how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel message. Furthermore, in Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Torah is the way to believe in what Christ accomplished through his ministry and through the cross (Acts 21:20).
Sounds like Catholics too
Works are the product of salvation, and definitely - as Solberg puts it- permissible but not required for salvation.
Galatians, Roman’s and Philippians….
WOW exactly what I have been saying but also convicting that I am not doing enough in my walk WITH Him.
which Bible is this You're reading from ?
I was invited to a sabbath gathering at a house of a TO family, I wanted to go just to see what they believe but couldn't bring myself to go. Whenever I discuss the TO with anyone I feel like I'm looking past Jesus back to Moses and it makes me uncomfortable. Thanks for your videos.
What do you mean by saying that you wanted to find out what they believe?? They believe in one ☝️ God, don’t they 😂😂??
How the interpret scripture..how they hold gatherings...how they view Jesus..etc
Who asked You to LOOK to MOSES?
You are suppose to LOOK to ELOHIM/god.
Didn't the LAWS that MOSES receive was from YAHUWAH ELOHIM/god?
SHALOM
@@fatherofmany3018 they see Jesus as a pagan man made story that’s how they see him. Nothing but Greek Roman mythology. They haven’t believe in JC for 2000 thousand years, there will be another 4 or 5 thousand and still not believe in that man made story I guarantee you that man.
Pretty much anyone I've talked to or listened to debate..Moses said...Moses wrote....I believe moses...
Maybe there are some who don't act in that manner but I've yet to find them. I mean no disrespect but the over all theme is Moses in the TO community. It's like they say "yes Jesus is messiah but we follow Moses". Once again this is just my experience.
Confusion reigns but the truth shall set you free.
James ch.2
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
@hexproofproject8199 - 2 Timothy 3:16 - ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
I presume that you are a pick and choose individual - picking and choosing whatever suits you
@hexproofproject8199 - A load of heretical ignorance. But to demonstrate your ignorance I will address your claim that you are saved. I can prove that you are not. How? Simply take a pin and stick it in the ball of your thumb. Painful, it bleeds? Then you are not "saved." 1 Corinthians 15:50 - "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."
If you, or anyone else, was saved you would be in the Kingdom and would not be flesh and blood which you obviously are. Here is an admonition from Paul, especially for you - 1 Corinthians 10:12 - "Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." That in itself proves that no one is "saved", no one is saved until they are resurrected - that is the plain teaching of the scriptures. Conversion is a process and salvation the eventual reward.
Galatians 2:15-16 ESV
We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
@@dancingzolins6782 - And by what law is it that no one will be justified? Galatians 3:19 - the law that was added because of transgression ; Romans 4:15 - where there is no law there is no transgression; so what was the law that was added because an existing law transgressed - Jeremiah 7:22 then read Hebrews 10.
What law? The answer should be obvious.
what spirit is telling you to change Yehoavoh's precepts with your own concepts?
That was WONDERFUL! I was raised in 7th Day Adventism but left it around age 20. I came very close to getting sucked into Hebrew Roots about 15-20 years ago. I thank God He didn’t allow that for me. I’ve prayed DILIGENTLY that He lead me to Truth and protect me from deception, and He’s done just that. He is magnificent!!!
Alls it takes is learning word definitions from the Bible it self. I pray you end up finding True Truths.
Phil. 3: 5,6 when Paul was a persecutor of the church he was righteous and blameless in the law of the Pharisees ( man made religion ) but would be guilty in God’s Law. Got Torah Got Truth
Can you please do a commentary on Exodus 12. Many use this to say the law is “forever” but the original writings indicate the word actually translated from “forever” was pointing to a timeframe until a certain age has been fulfilled. I would love to hear a commentary on this topic. Thank you.
Here's a commentary on Exodus 12.
It has absolutely nothing to do with you.
You're welcome.
Only if you are a part of Israel. Remember, not all Israel are of Israel.
@@ShaulTzuar
Were you part of old covenant Israel?
@@MandMe91 I am not aware of this Old covenant Israel to which you refer. Chapter and verse please. Systematic theologies are fine as long as you don’t preclude other systems out of hand.
@@ShaulTzuar
Well...if God made a NEW covenant with Israel then there MUST be an old one in there somewhere????
Is it over here?
Is it over there?
Gee...I can find it.
Were you ever part of the covenant that Jehovah made with Israel after he led them by the hand out of Egypt (the one that Moses mediated)?
Do you have a video on a whosoever shall break the least of The Commandments and teach men to do so shall be called least in the Kingdom. Could you do a video on this or possibly have a video on this to a reference to me thank you sir ?
Yea, I like to see how he changes that around. It's usually just word interpretations. Defind by Man and Not the bible it self...
Hi rob I want you to be honest with me. Is it correct to say obedience to God 's words is righteousness.
I think there's a sense in which that is true. But that certainly doesn't capture the whole of it. Abraham was counted righteous through faith, not obedience (Gen 15:6). Noah and David (and others) were considered righteous despite grevious disobedience. And there is no level of obedience that could add a thing to the righteousness that is ours through faith in Jesus.
Shalom, Rob
How can someone else's righteousness be your righteousness? This is just a twisted analogy. Magic arts? Satan believed, but he wasn't counted righteous. Empty philosophies are not trustworthy esp from someone preparing for Christmas.
No, it’s not correct, it’s heresy. The righteousness of Jesus imputed to believers. Ascribe to someone by virtue of another. Jesus had imputed righteousness to repentant sinners.
If there was a sign on the two gates from Matthew 7:13 then the broad gate sign would say "It's all about me." The sign on the narrow gate would say "It's all about Him (Christ)
The main problem with torahism is the self-righteousness. They forget to give Christ the glory in everything and put "self" in there instead. We were warned about that with Moses and the rock.
I love your sign analogy, Katie! Brilliant.
Blessings, Rob
It’s all about him because we are supposed to walk as he himself walked, so how did Jesus walk? In keeping the fullness of the Torah.
And all about me, is those going against the Creators ways... Actually the main problem with Torahlessness is self-disobedience to the Creators ways through self-righteousness. Forgetting that giving Christ the glory in everything is living as he lived.
@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 Whatever I do out of love to my Saviour is ONLY because HE "first" loved me. 1 John 4:19 Therefore HE will receive ALL glory and honour both now and forever.
The law shows us that we cannot. We're not sinners because we sin but we sin because we're sinners. And sinners need a Saviour which is who Jesus Christ came for. He didn't come for those who "think" they have no sin but for those who know they do!
@@katielee4892 Absolutely correct the sinners needed a Saviour Jesus Christ, and he came for the sinners. But once saved meaning you are considered in the family do you still need to be saved? Salvation is given to sinners, then sinners are to walk as Jesus walked! How did Jesus walk? If you love me keep the Commandments. We shouldn’t try to define what commandments, it’s the same commandments Jesus walked perfectly as an example for us. And those commandments are all seen in the Torah. Many Christians will say Jesus gave even deeper understanding of the commandments and I agree like example Adultery, even if you look with lust you committed adultery in your heart. He did not take away the Torah commandment of Adultery, he shown how were are not to break the Torah even with our eyes and heart... the eyes this represents the mind too. So keeping the Torah with all our hearts and minds and in a sinners case after they are saved, because they are living out this new saved life. We do not follow the Torah to be saved, but because we are now saved. We all broke the Torah, we all needed salvation, now when the gift of salvation has been given there is no works for salvation. It’s only by whole heartily love do we want to fully walk in the footsteps of Jesus.
@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, *He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also;* and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Following the instructions and embracing MASHIACH is the narrow path.
Granted we are not fully mature but the desire is to be eventually. It isn't any different than a new believer which has the zeal but not complete wisdom.
Acts 5:39 brother Acts 5:39
HalleluYAH!!!
Praise Jesus!
Do you have a teaching about the festivals? And if Gentiles should keep them?
Yes...read Acts 15
Throughout your generations Leviticus 23
If you feel led they can be a blessing to glorify Christ Yeshua but you are not required like those under the old covenant
But I will say they are a blessing
@@peterthepakeha2799 Yes do read Acts 15. Especially verse 21 and go ahead and read further where they actually circumcised someone and totally disprove Rob's position
Thank you for this wonderful explanation. I have a few friends who are Christians but are dabbling in Hebrew roots, I see a divide between us now. It saddens me to see this happening but
I can only pray they are not deceived.
I'm so encouraged that you posted this Rob. A couple days ago I recorded a video with a focus on Philippians 3. A slightly different angle but the same heart. What perfect timing. A prompt from the Spirit prehaps😊
Built on Truth. Did you test the spirit with scripture. Phil 3:3 worship in the Spirit of God ( His Truth ) Put no confidence in the flesh ( the teaching of men, oral Torah. Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770 I'm sorry I don't understand what you are saying? If your question is, are you teaching that followers of Yeshua aren't under Torah then my answer is yes.
@@biltontruth Psalm 119: 142 Thy law ( Torah ) is truth. Your handle says “ built on truth “. This is the biblical definition of truth. Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770 just because the Torah is true and can be described in that way doesn't mean that it is the definition of truth. Yeshua is true, and unlike Torah he is the eternal, living, creator God.
@@biltontruth read the whole verse The Torah is His righteousness and it’s everlasting. Righteousness just means instructions on how to live life right. Man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. It is the Torah that God dictated to Moses. Got Torah Got Truth
Nobody in messiah are following his commands for their own righteousness. They do it out of love bond serving. It was the spirit that led them to truth.
Thankfully we have the circumcised heart to change. And the blood when we stumble.
Please stop judging us on a feast day or sabbath. They are just a shadow. The substance is the anointing.
Twisting Paul’s words leads to destruction.
His commands are a blessing. Stop making them a curse.
We are not under the law, we uphold it.
For this is the Kingdom.
Praise be to the creator for bringing us back into covenant through our Master.
Blessed be The Name.
Tim is it a sin that I a gentile Christian don't do feast days, sabbath, eat bacon?
@@digimike8 read our scriptures and ask yourself!
What’s the definition of sin? 1john ch3:4
Who’s holy days are these?
Do they point to messiah?
Are they a blessing?
Will we be doing these feast in the kingdom?
Did Our master eat things that are not defined as food? Should we?
He loves his flock…
So We should try our best for HIM?
Is it hard?
If we love him, what should we do?
I don’t call myself a gentile anymore. We are graphed into ISREAL. The church has always been ISREAL since genesis 28 v3. We really need to stop dividing the Jew/gentile thing.
Gentile (ethnics) is defined as heathens in some places in scripture. It basically means “pagan”
Jesus only came to the lost sheep of the house of ISREAL. He did all his ministry in northern ISREAL (Samaria). Yah divorced ISREAL and scattered them through the gentiles and brought them back through messiah. That’s who Paul was going to preach to in the dispersion. The Gospel. The new covenant in blood to bring ISREAL back into covenant and the first fruits of the resurrection. If you have ears to hear-The spirit reveals. How else can our Jewish brothers and sisters see their messiah? Through a “gentile” messiah?
He’s not coming back gentile!
Read revelation. It’s the most “Jewish” book in scripture!
@@timw6110 to paraphrase you "you believe I'm a pagan sinner because I don't follow the law." ?
Nice straw man! I don’t know you.
I’m not calling you anything.
All I know I’m working out the logs in my eyes and dying daily.
Conforming into the image of messiah.
You do you boo!
@@timw6110 The law carried the curse not the twisting Paul’s words. The twisting of words happens when you claim to uphold the law rather than be under the law. In the 613 laws none of them are instruction as to what to do if you can’t uphold one of the laws. Yet in 70AD the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed then Levitical priest hood ended. As there is no law telling you what to do now that you have no priests and you can’t make sacrifices how to you clean yourself from sin? If you sin you pray to God and the prayer petition is mediated by Jesus, our high priest right? So if we all practice that we practice the 2nd Covenant. Hebrew 8 Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2 a minister in the holy places, in the true tent[a] that the Lord set up, not man. 3 For every high priest is appointed to offer gifts and sacrifices; thus it is necessary for this priest also to have something to offer. 4 Now if he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since there are priests who offer gifts according to the law. 5 They serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things. For when Moses was about to erect the tent, he was instructed by God, saying, “See that you make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.” 6 But as it is, Christ[b] has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.
The first covenant was with Abraham for all mankind. The faults it had to Israel falling away from God many times. God gave the Law to Moses for the Israelites a specific people for a time. That time started passing with the arrival of Jesus our Messiah and completed when the temple was destroyed. The first covenant has ended and the second has started. Thank you God for sending Messiah Jesus Christ to all mankind for the redemption of our sins. There is no reason to practice attributes of a failed law when we have a new covenant with better promises in Jesus our High Priest.
Obey the Commandments (motivated by the indwelling of Yahusha), and be the bride.
We obey out of love, and the evidence of that love is shown outwardly by His fruits.
"The one who says, 'I know Him," but does not guard His Commandments, is a liar, and the Truth is not in him." (1 Yahukanon/1Jn. 24)
"Blessed are those doing His Commands, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and enter into the gates of the city." (Rev. 22:14)
Hi Lew! Jesus' mention of the Sabbath in Matt. 24:20 clearly shows that He expected His Jewish followers would continue to keep the Sabbath. And why would they stop? It was never prohibited.
The 10 Commandments were given as the foundation of the Old Covenant law. As I see it, those Commandments do not apply to Christians today *in the context they were given to Israel.* In other words, we don't honor our parents "so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you" (Exod. 20:12). And we don't impose the death penalty on someone who breaks the seventh day Sabbath.The Bible says, "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col. 2:16-17)
That said, the principles _behind_ the Ten Commandments still very much apply to Christians. In fact, 9 of the 10 Commandments are repeated and taught in the New Testament. (The Sabbath is not). The Bible teaches that we are not required to keep the seventh day Sabbath _as it was given_ in the Law of Moses. (We can if we want, of course...just not the death penalty part!) But I believe the principle behind the Sabbath is still to be kept: setting aside a regular time of rest to remember, thank, and worship God and be with family.
Blessings, Rob
Great exposition, as usual!
Hey RL this video just shows me once again you do not understand the Hebrew root movement, torahism, whatever you want to call it.
Is it ritual to love God the way He wants to be loved by doing what he says. The whole Torah hangs off the 2!
Love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
All the commandments found in the Torah are dealing with one or the other, between you and God or you and mankind.
Not that hard.
“Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God
AND their faith in Jesus.”
Revelation 14:12
Deuteronomy 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
Deuteronomy 7:10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
Deuteronomy 10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Deuteronomy 11:1 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.
Deuteronomy 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,
Deuteronomy 11:22 For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;
Deuteronomy 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
Deuteronomy 19:9 If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three:
Deuteronomy 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
(Proverbs 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.)
Deuteronomy 30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
Joshua 22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Daniel 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
Does Jesus give you the ability to keep the whole law or or nevermind Jesus and just keep the law and your good? You'll never be able to keep the law so how can you have confidence in the law.
@@adamguy33 Yes he does give me the ability to keep His Law and it’s easy and not burdensome like he says. It’s the way He wants to be loved and the way He wants us to love each other.
Yes, I think what Paul was saying is being circumcised couldn’t save them. The Judaizers of that day seemed to think just because they were circumcised they were saved. In the same way people in many congregations of faith these days seem to think being baptized in water puts a seal of salvation on them. Paul is telling them it’s pointless. We all want this heart change that only comes with an encounter with Jesus Christ. If we have this encounter in our lives, hopefully it will also change our hearts to have a love for people and all of God’s instructions. I have embraced many of these Biblical instructions, Not to be saved, but because I am. I like you, have joined myself to His Kingdom. The most compelling evidence for embracing these instructions has come to me by realizing that during the 1000 year reign of Christ these instructions are important to God. As spoken in Zech 14, and a few other places. This seems to be more consistent with the Character of God, who as the Bible says never changes. At the very least, I’ll just be getting a head start on a few people for his governmental ideas, and the transition of ruling and reigning with Christ will be less of an adjustment for me.
Ok so let me get this right i can know Yashua and do whatever? Because Paul says so. The 10 commandment where written for a reason no?
Hey, Trey! The "laws" of God that define right and wrong were true long before the Law of Moses was given. So when God commands us not to murder today, it’s not because of the Ten Commandments. It’s because of His universal principle against murder. Long before God gave Israel the Law of Moses, Cain was judged for murdering his brother Abel (Gen 4:8-16). Same thing with sexual morality. Under the New Covenant, God doesn’t forbid adultery because of the Ten Commandments. Unfaithfulness and sexual immorality were wrong long before the Law of Moses, as we see, for example, in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 18-19). Because mankind was made in God’s image, we have a “compass” of objective morality, so to speak, baked into our human DNA. And under the New Covenant, God's law is written on our hearts.
Blessings, Rob
Faith without works is dead. So what are the works other than the instructions in the manual which is? But hey, we can change the manual and Yah is always changing His mind, right? Ask enough questions and to the correct Person and the answers will be revealed. Amen
Solberg, have/can you do a video on how Paul was still Jewish in order to present the Gospel to Jews but he never instructed Gentiles to follow the law like he did?
Unlike our parents Paul turns a phrase on its head, "Do as I say, not as I do" (only in regards to the law).
It's a hard sell. He says too many things which indicate that he wasn't
TORAH is still relevant Today!
It's was and is as YAHshua Humasheoc taught us a HEART Matter!
Duet 30 10
if you obey the LORD your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in this Book of the Torah/Law and turn to the LORD your God with all your HEART and with all your soul.
Proverbs 3 3
Let know loving commitment ant TRUTH forsake you-bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your HEART.
Ezekiel 11 19-20
And I will give them one HEART, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the HEART of stone from their flesh and give them a HEART of flesh, that they may walk in "my statutes" and keep my rules and obey them. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
Hebrews 10 16
This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my TORAH/ law in their HEARTS, and I will write them on their minds.”
Jer 31 33
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my TORAH within them, and I will write it on their HEARTS. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people
2 cor 3 3
And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human HEARTS.
1 tim 1:5
Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure HEART, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
~Now you.can understand~
Rev 12-17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”
Rev 14 12
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus
Rev 22 14
Blessed are those washing their robes, that their right will be to the tree of life, and they shall enter into the city by the gates.
Yes! The Torah is still very relevant today. "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 Tim 3:16).
Not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given for certain people or certain times. And we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. And the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christian's today.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Sorry Rob? I don't understand Who or what is usurping YAH/God Instructions ?. ... who says, this is ceremonial or Not??
See here's like of 20+versus that make witnesses telling us to Adopt into the Family of The Father The Son, The Sister ie Yisreal.
Christain/Gentiles are constantly being reffered to as children...
1 kings 8 41
Lev. 19 - 34
Exo. 12 49
Lev. 24 ~ 22
Numbers
9 14,
15-14, 15, 16, & 29
Deu. 1 16
Deu. 24 : 14
Liv. 18 : 26
Exo. 12 : 19
Exo. 20 : 10
Dev 5 : 14
Lev. 16 : 29
Leviticus.
16 : 29
17 : 8
17 : 10
22 : 18
17 : 13
24 : 16
35 : 15
Joshua 20 : 9
Numbers 19 - 10
Isaiah 56 6-7
And foreigners who bind themselves to the LORD to minister to him, to love the name of the LORD, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant-
these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
@@6969smurfy Thanks, Dan. But not every command that God has given, even in those verses you cited, applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given to certain people. For example, Adam, Noah, Abraham, and Moses were all given commands that do not apply to anyone else. And some of His commands were only given for certain times, like gathering manna in the wilderness (Ex 16). So we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. For example, under the Mosaic Covenant, Israel was commanded to make a blood sacrifice for sin at the temple through the Levitical priesthood (Lev 16). But those commands don't apply followers of Jesus today under the New Covenant. Not only because believers are now the temple (1 Cor 3:16-17; 6:19; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:21), and _we_ (not the Levites) are now the priests (1 Pet 2:5, 9; Rev 1:6), but also because Jesus was our sacrifice "once for all" (Heb 10:10), and therefore, "there is no longer any offering for sin." (Heb 10:18).
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots yes Rob your are right, not all instructions ie Torah ie Law is for everyone.
Torah is a Compilation of instrutions for the specific roles that we are in.
Instructions for Woman, mem, mothers, fathers sons daughters, husbands,, wife,
Priest, servants elders, "land" when in Yisreal, and of coarse Temples.
And yes the Leaves, And even how to judge and Witnesses.
~All the instructions for the outsiders and being in The Family of Yisrael, ill list some 20 plus witnesses down below.
it is Repeated over and over again that we are to be
Grafting into the Family, and learning Torah, just like the Jeriulisum Council Ruled. You have to keep reading thier ruling and not stop after the 4 Major Torah Violation as most Christians do. YAHshua Humasheoc/Jesus paid the Ultimate price bringing us this good news! WEHAVE A PATH TO FATHERS HEART
The Prof is insurmountable if ONE Chooses to looks into this with Opened eyes and ears, and Test E every thing.....
1 kings 8 41
Lev. 19 - 34
Exo. 12 49
Lev. 24 ~ 22
Numbers
9 14,
15-14, 15, 16, & 29
Deu. 1 16
Deu. 24 : 14
Liv. 18 : 26
Exo. 12 : 19
Exo. 20 : 10
Dev 5 : 14
Lev. 16 : 29
Leviticus.
16 : 29
17 : 8
17 : 10
22 : 18
17 : 13
24 : 16
35 : 15
Joshua 20 : 9
Numbers 19 - 10
Isaiah 56 6-7
And foreigners who bind themselves to the LORD to minister to him, to love the name of the LORD, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant-
these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
@@6969smurfy Good job brother.
Brother Rob, my latest question involves the 3rd
temple rebuild. Jews will restart sacrificing animals. People I know in Hebrew Roots are happy and excited about that. They say there are other blood sacrifices in Leviticus to be done besides Jesus blood sacrifice. 🧐I think it’s the slippery slope to deception. Will you share your thoughts on the third temple and sacrifices restarting?
Why would we "Followers of the Whole bible" be happy about Judah building what they deam as a 3rd temple Judah is still devorced, and technically the 3rd one was built. Noah's "Ark" was Sanctified by YAHS/God's Seal. The Judah 2 temples... first was Sanctified by YAH,/God but the last one was NOT!
Waiting for the explanation regarding the 3rd temple and sacrifices....?
The sacrifices were always a picture of what Yeshua would do in His blood.
I believe the sacrifices never saved anybody. They were a symbol like the bronze serpent. When the heart of faith trusted in Gods mercy for forgiveness the worshipper’s status became forgiven and the right act to perform was sacrifice because God said that was His desire as a way to show the penetent the cost of sin was the death of the sacrifice. It pointed back to God’s covenant with Abraham and forward to the realization in Messiah.
The blood of those sacrifices aren’t believed to add anything to what Messiah has done.
It is like saying why do you keep drinking the cup and eating the wafer? Didn’t Jesus death on the cross meet your need? The answer is it did and the cup and wafer picture that atonement. It is symbolic.
Question on Philippianes 3:2-11 for Solberg
1) At verse 3:5 as to the Law, a pharisee
2) At verse 3:6 as to righteousness under the law, blameless
3) At verse 3:9 not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law
Are these example of "the law" all referring to the Torah?
Did not the Pharisees have men made laws that are different then the Torah?
So is the law always referring to the Torah?
Hello, sir (or madam)! In Scripture, we can't assume that every time we read the English word "law" it's referring specifically to the Law of Moses. Context is king in that regard. In verses 5, 6 and 9 the Greek word translated "law" is the same: νόμος (nomos). And in the context of this passage, its clear that Paul is referring to the Law of Moses each time. Why do I say that?
In verses 5 and 6 the subject of Paul's statement is his impressive Hebrew pedigree. So the word "law" here only makes sense in the context of the Law of Moses. What other law could he be referring to? So in verse 6, Paul said of himself, "as to righteousness under the law, blameless." And carrying that forward, he says in verse 9, "not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith." He's contrasting faith and law, as he so often does. So the Law of Moses is in view in this passage.
As for the Pharisees, yes, they added lots of man-made rules to the law!
Blessings,
Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I am not 100% convinced that your interpretation is correct this time (even though the Greek word is the same) by suggesting all three times this was referring to the Laws of Moses. Your correctly stated at the end that the Pharisees added men made laws.
And it was these laws that The Pharisees added to the law which eventually developed into the written Talmudic laws which is not the Torah.
Paul was taught within these Pharisee laws that contradicted the Torah. But his encounter with the Messiah most likely brought him away from the Pharisees laws.
@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 _Paul is a Pharisee. Towards the end of Paul's ministry Paul cried out that he was a Pharisee._
Acts 23:6 But when *Paul* perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he *cried out* in the council, Men and brethren, *I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee:* of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
_So the next time you read from Paul's epistle, just remember your reading what was written by a Pharisee._
Act 23:6 ... *I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee:* ...
Gal 2 when rebuking peter." Works of the law" is jewdism
Another excellent message on elevating Jesus above carnal laws of Torahism
I have a friend who has bern taught by Jeff Benner and others that the ancient paleo pictographic alphabet must be applied to the modern Hebrew letters to get a deep, accurate, more complete meaning behind the modern letters and words. When she's finished she gets a different meaning to the scripture so that the verse is unrecognizable at times. How do you turn someone from this. What she's trying to do is get into the mind of the ancient people to whom the scriptures were original spoken.
That is very frustrating, Patsy. I have noticed that many (not all!) who teach Torahism trade on the notion of "hidden knowledge": the Paleo Hebrew alphabet that unlocks new meaning, or historical corruption (or a theological epiphany) that somehow no one noticed until now, etc. The thing about paleo-Hebrew is that it's the exact same language as biblical Hebrew, it just uses different glyphs (shapes) for the letters. In fact, some of the earlier writings from the Tanakh (OT) were likely written in Paleo Hebrew. But the words they spell are the same Hebrew words we have today in the Bible.
Sadly, when people get caught up in conspiracy theories they often (not always!) set reason aside. I mean, to think that a 21st-century Western Gentile has "finally" unlocked ancient Hebrew secrets that contradict 4,000 years of Judeo-Christian rabbis, sages, and scholars seems a bit sketchy, doesn't it? (P.S. I know nothing about Jeff Benner and my comment is not directed toward him.) When we've bought into these theories, it's natural to label everything we disagree with as part of the conspiracy. So it's hard to "break the spell," as it were. Our two most powerful weapons are prayer and love. If they're open to a rational conversation, absolutely engage with them, but do so with gentleness and respect (1 Pet. 3:15). But if they're being arrogant and argumentative, it's usually best to just give them a hug and agree to disagree.
Blessings, Rob
"Go from me you workers of LAWLESSNESS "
Godly love is focused on others (agape)
Ungodly love is focused on self (philautos)
Hello :)
I was doing my own research recently on that chapter.
Phil 3:11 the word resurrection in this verse is not the same resurrection in the rest of the Bible. This is an outward form of resurrection. One that contained honor and glory.
Paul knew he was going to obtain the regular resurrection. He was looking forward to the honorable resurrection. The kings and priest resurrection. Rev 1:6 & Rev 20:5-6
Can you answer me this... is the Church Under the New Covenant? or is that just for Israel according to The Prophet Jeremiah? Jer. 31:31
Hi Phillip! Yes, all believers in Jesus are under the New Covenant.
RLS
Isreal Yahisrael is a title given to HIS Peoples, YAHshua aka Jesus opened the door for us to graft into the new Vine. To except the Father and Son, to have a chance to be brothers and sisters in Their Faith.
What do you think about dropping all the Hebrew names and pronunciations? It seems to lend credence to the idea, “the more Jewish, the more correct.” The disciples were first called “Christians” - in Greek - at Antioch.
I want to walk as Yehoshua/Jesus walked.
The commands/instructions are timeless, they teach us how to have love for each other and how to judge different situations through all different times in society.....how else do we deal with social problems? With good instructions/law. Even if you have all the faith in the world you still need to know what is the righteous way of dealing with difficult issues in a fallen world....this is what the torah does. It gives us instructions on how to deal with social issues, marriage issues, inherent issues, worship issues, etc
I have a question Im hoping someone will answer...What command is there that applies to our culture, in this day and age do you feel is keeping a person in bondage?
Blessings
"Say my name in Hebrew to get saved"
- Things Jesus never said
@@Aivottaja I don’t think that it is right to go around changing people’s names or birthdays to suit someone else’s cultural preferences. People say that they want to be like Jesus aka Yeshua. Interesting since He was a Jew and lived His life as such, but Torah is of no value today because Christianity says so. I keep seeing scripture that says “throughout your generations “. Ever stopped to think about what that means? We don’t observe Torah to be saved, we observe Torah because our creator knows best and we trust and love Him. That should be the reason for observing it - not to earn salvation.
As long as we are in this world we are in bondage. Our culture is drowning in paganism and we don’t even realize it - it’s just what we are taught and raised in. Holidays, entertainment, even our calendar is pagan and if one is willing to study and dig deep, they will see it. The Israelites were instructed not to adopt the practices of the people of Canaan or of Egypt, but they did and they suffered for it. And we do the same thing today. And the church is doing it too even to the point of discouraging people from observing Torah because it is “Jewish “. Built in discrimination is more like it. Starting with the feast days which Leviticus 23 calls the feast of the LORD aka Adoni or Yahuah. I believe true freedom comes from letting go of the world’s ways and getting back into the Book.
@@debbiekaebirge-coitan1372 Cool story.
I care about what he said. And he never said pretending to reconstruct Hebrew 2000 years ago was a requisite for believing in him.
The Torah teacher I am forced to watch seems to do a slide of hand when he’s talking about the law Paul was talking about. HE’s very quick with the statement, “he wasn’t talking about the law given by Moses thru God, he was only talking about the laws man added onto it”…..example: not moving on Sabbath…if I ask any question concerning noticing this, I’m vehemently called, “lawless, unable to understand truth, tearing down my house with my own hands”.
Shabbat is anything but Shalom for me…
Might want to find a different teacher or better yet find the Teacher and learn from Him. Following a man will always lead to some false teachings. I don’t 100% agree with any of the Rabbis I listen to, but discard the tares and collect the gems they do share. Nothing wrong with questioning the teachings.
Hello, I am form Uruguay, I just watched two of your videos, because my brother is into this movement, and he is constantly posting about calling God and Jesús, by their hebrew names, saying that if I do not call Him by them, then I am in a false religion, a blasphemer. I noticed that you said Jesus in hebrew in this video...could you make a video explainig this aspect of the hebrew roots movement? Also, he says that I can not call Him God, or Lord, couse it means Devil...therefore i worship the devil...the grace of God does not exist, because the word grace comes from the name of a greek goddess, the trinity does not exist, the holy spirit does not exist, it is the ruaj of god, (i dont know what that is). He shaved his head, and he is letting his beard grow to look like most of the guys he listens to from youtube, and we can not have a conversation abut anything, cause even if I am talking with my sister about orange cakes, he starts talking about the hebrew name of God, etc. so I just avoid him...forgive my english, and my long coment, I hope you make a video about this matter..thanks
Hello, Annie. I am sorry that your brother has come to believe these things and is so difficult to talk to! I know how frustrating it can be. The New Testament authors referred to Jesus as Ἰησοῦς (Iesous), not "Yeshua." So we know it is perfectly acceptable to refer to Jesus in any language. Isaiah 9:6 says of the Messiah, "his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." And Isaiah 7:14 says, "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." And Jesus consistently referred to Himself as "Son of Man." So the idea that we can *only* refer to Him as Yeshua is ridiculous. And Jesus called God "Father," not "Yahweh" or "Yah." So its okay to use those other names. So the big problem with what your brother is telling you about the names is that it is a man-made rule, not something that Scripture teaches.
And remember that we only worship what we set our hearts and minds on. So unless you set your heart and mind on the devil, you cannot be worshiping him no matter what name you use for God!
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks for your answer, I apreciate it!
Annie, I'm sorry for your Brother, his approach is all wrong,
What is right Annie is, the Bible is ALL still relevant today as ever. YAH/GOD does not change,
YAHshua Humasheoc / Jesus
Did not change ONE thing from YAHs Torah. He simply exposed Judah for twisting it and adding to it.
Praise YAH firmly Worship YAH humbley Give thanks for the Messiah Halalu-YAH !
I think of it like changing anyone else’s name. There’s a meaning in Yeshua that is not translated in Jesus. Names have meanings in some languages and Hebrew is one of those. But at the same time, I will say that this isn’t something that can be forced upon anyone. It’s about the relationship more than anything. If you really want to know what is so important about the name, I would suggest doing your own research and not just taking anyone’s word for it. Hopefully your brother understands this and gives you some time. My own family is not into this, so I have had to learn the hard way to hold back on some things that I am learning as well.
The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecclesiastes 12:13
Amen! As an expression of love and obedience, let us each strive to keep the commands of God that apply to us.
RLS
Please do a Q and A regarding the SDA.
Just another example of a Protestant group. Dig a bit on EGW and it is not pretty. Put me over the top and figured that I needed to get back to the roots. Christianity is tainted in so many ways- language being a huge part of it. To know what the fake looks like one studies the real deal then you can see what isn’t real. If it works for money, why not religion?
What is the definition of sin according to 1 John 3:4?
Here's my answer, Joel! th-cam.com/video/XUkvk3RvWqY/w-d-xo.html
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots Roman’s 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
@@joelbecerra3722 Hi, Joel. That passage is actually teaching the opposite of what you think. I explain that in this video:
*How do Christians uphold the law? A bible study on Romans 3:31* th-cam.com/video/X8on5zSXv0Q/w-d-xo.html
Best, RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots God bless,
Mathew 5:17-19
17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
18 For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
I don’t know about you but I don’t want to be called least in heaven. It blows my mind how in the 10 commandments 9 are for every Christian except Shabbat,it is going to be kept in the millennium reign. God bless!
@@joelbecerra3722you are a deluded captive. An annoying dog barking at the church. You waterboard torture scripture. Rob is correct, what you are stating about Romans 3::31 is the antithesis of the meaning of the Bible verse. The Mosaic Law and the prophets testified that righteousness is by faith apart from the law. The Mosaic law was established as true and accurate in that it testified that a savior was coming to free Israel from the yoke of bondage of the law and establish an entirely new and way better covenant and law. Jesus loathes Pharisees.
To call Gods way a religious dos and donts breaks my heart! Psalm 103:7 says that He made His ways known to moses😢
2 Peter 3:16
Speaking of this as he does in all of his letters. There are some things in those [epistles of Paul] that are difficult to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist and misconstrue to their ownutter destruction, just as [they distort and misinterpret] the rest of the Scriptures.
Well proved and stated. After constant back-and-forth trying to "trap" Jesus, He was finally prosecuted for not observing the Sabbath. Two millenia later, and nothing has changed, except now it's Gentiles, who were never under Mosaic Sabbath Law to begin with, that incredulously are every bit as legalistic and self-righteous as the Pharisees. Hoping a few will have their eyes opened by this podcast.
Bless you, Gesundheit! :-) R.
Yes after 2 centuries our small Ramnet is shinning HIS light
HALALU-YAH
Praise YAH firmly Worship YAH humbley Give thanks for the Messiah Halalu-YAH !
It is by the Torah that we know what sin is (Romans 3:20) and Jesus was sinless, therefore He never broke any of its laws, including the command to keep the Sabbath holy. To suggest that Jesus did not observe the Sabbath is to say that he sinned and therefore to deny that he is our Savior. It is contradictory to think that Jesus was correct about it being lawful to heal on the Sabbath and that the Pharisees were correct that Jesus had broken the Sabbath by healing on it. It has always been lawful to heal on the Sabbath, so the Pharisees who thought he had broken it were incorrect.
Self-righteusness does not rely on anyone else, so it is incorrect to think that relying on what God has instructed is the way to become self-righteous.
If Gentiles were never under the Mosaic Law, then Gentiles have never needed to repent from their sins, have never needed grace, have never needed faith, and have never needed Jesus to give himself to redeem us from all lawlessness.
Amen
Which day is Biblical seventh day of the week (Sabbath) in now widely used Julian/Gregorian calendar that is based on Babylonian calendar and not Biblical/Hebraic ?
The 7th day has always been Saturday.
@@shinryuken5423
Saturday is seventh day of the week accordingly Julian/Gregorian calendar that is based on Babylonian calendar and not Biblical/Hebraic.
@@ruth4019 ummm no. If that were the case Jews would be calling another day Sabbath. Friday at Sundown to Saturday at Sundown. Only difference is when a day begins and ends. Biblically it ends at sundown. Seriously there's like a 3 to 6 hour difference depending on the time of the year. The majority of the 7th day is shared between both calendars.
@@ruth4019 it's impossible to know unless we have a celestial anchor of some sort. There is a strong argument for lunar sabbath at each quarter of the phase, but you end up having to do some mental gymnastics
@@shinryuken5423 your argument is circular and without any root. Jews haven't been perpetually following the law since it was given by Moses. There were entire generations that forgot it altogether
In all likelihood, the Saturday practice began during Babylonian exile as the babylonians also recognized the day as special
You have said several times we should know God. I ask how do we know God?
You might check out the book _Knowing God_ by J. I. Packer. Its quite good.
RLS
How about His own Words?
"Confidence in the flesh" is NOT works salvation, it WAS the nature of having the 'letter of the law' which leads to sin. Rob Paul is making the case of Romans 7.
When he was Saul he was tempted due to the law, whereas being in Christ he has learned faith, the faith of Abraham where a true believer could never sin.
Hebrews 10:26-31
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Kathy, the Book of Hebrews was written to/about an ancient people group called, you guessed it "the Hebrews. You are not a Hebrew. You're welcome.
@@MandMe91 yes I’m grafted in through Faith. I’m not christian btw. I don’t belong to any organized religion. I study scripture though, the whole book.
Galatians 3:29
Tree of Life Version
29 And if you belong to Messiah, then you are Abraham’s seed-heirs according to the promise.
@@JustKate43
Did Christ redeem you from the curse of the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3?
Matthew 5:17-20 enough said
You can do a video on Halloween ? Since you. Covered Christmas and Easter
Hey, Grant! No, I'm not planning to address Halloween because it is an entirely secular holiday, whereas Christmas and Easter have Christian origins and purposes. Like many other things, I think our motivation counts for a lot when it comes to Halloween. Are we celebrating it because its fun to dress up in costumes and get candy and walk around our neighborhood at night? Or are we flirting with, or even promoting, the dark side of the spiritual world? We worship what we set our hearts and minds on. So I don't believe trick-or-treating or attending costume parties can cause us to inadvertently worship the devil or anything. But the holiday certainly brings no glory to God. (Although Christians can choose to use it as an opportunity to share the gospel with their friends and neighbors!) Best, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots thank you for responding R.L Solberg!
But rob... The reality is that the law doesn't save anyone, rather it's Jesus who saves, The lord said it back in the time of Noah "men's hearts are wicked from their youth" and therefore no man is righteous unless if they submit to the grace from Jesus.... That doesn't mean the law is no more, Paul insists that rather he glorifies the Torah of Moshe... How tho? Simple,
1. Remember the adultrous woman that was to be stoned death, Jesus saves and gives her grace but the commands her to sin no more (stay away from adultry) which is a law that the righteous follow but the lawless one breaks and openly admits he or she is not under the law in other words not under a government of the most high
2. Faith without actions is dead as James insisted
Your faith must be accompanied by works of the Torah ( teaching and instructions of God) in other words how does one have faith in Jesus
Believing is accepting to something wholeheartedly when Jesus said in Matthew that didn't come to abolish the law
Rather to complete it...
Hi, Kulubya! I agree that authentic faith will naturally be accompanied by obedience to God's commands. But _which_ commands are we to obey? Not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given to certain people (ex. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses), or for certain times (ex. gathering manna). And we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. And the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required.)
Blessings, Rob
Thank you for sharing the link to the sermon that was the inspiration for your video “One Way or Another” This really spoke to me, what a powerful teaching. I would recommend everyone go over and watch it. May God continue to bless you brother Solberg
Thanks, Jonathan! Bless you, brother.
Rob
Is Hebrew Roots and Common Wealth theology the same? @@TheBiblicalRoots
@@jayjay-bz3rr Hi, JayJay. I am not that familiar with Commonwealth Theology. As I understand it, there is a range of beliefs among those who hold to this belief system. There may be some overlap with Hebrew Roots regarding the keeping of the Law of Moses. But neither is a monolithic movement. They both include a wide range of beliefs.
Shalom, RLS
Always with misunderstood Paul..always.
What did Christ say and do?
I thought it was Johnny Depp for a second
When we add anything to what Jesus did for us, we actually nullify what Jesus did. Charles Morris on Haven Today once said that Jesus plus anything equals nothing, but Jesus plus nothing equals everything. It seems to me that almost everyone adds something to the gospel to what Jesus did on our behalf.
Rob 'misread warning"; Phil 3:9 it is Paul's own inherent righteousness by the letter, which failed him. Look again "mine own" is his own, "having mine own righteousness which is through the faith of Christ", is the meaning as the letter. It is the righteousness of God, because God's law is the law of righteousness, due to the obedience of faith.
Very well explained. Explained so well that I subscribed. Now try to explain to a SDA or Hebrew Israelite.
Lables givin by Men, some may be misguided like Most ALL Religions, but Some Just see the Wisdom in Torah.
What is the problem with the law of Moses
There is no problem with the Law of Moses. It was good and holy and righteous.
R.
@@TheBiblicalRoots Malachi 4:4 remember the law of Moses. Matthew 23 1 2 3 Christ told apostles to keep the law of Moses. Isaiah 42:21 Christ came the magnify the law. The law of Moses is the law of God which is the Torah and the ten commandments they are for everybody. In the Bible you are either a Israelite in covenant with God a part of the one true nation holy set apart people. Or a gentile not in covenant with God.
Brother, yes this is sound, but if you reffer to Totah as Law then your doing the Sane thing that Rob is doing. Or helping their cause.
They are NOT Mosses Laws. They are YAH/God instructions for HIS peoples. they Had the legal structure to inforce these. We do not, YaHshua Humasheoc Teaching was How to Put Torah on our Hearts.
Duet 30 10
if you obey the LORD your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in this Book of the Torah/Law and turn to the LORD your God with all your HEART and with all your soul.
Proverbs 3 3
Let know loving commitment ant TRUTH forsake you-bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your HEART.
Ezekiel 11 19-20
And I will give them one HEART, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the HEART of stone from their flesh and give them a HEART of flesh, that they may walk in "my statutes" and keep my rules and obey them. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
Hebrews 10 16
This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my TORAH/ law in their HEARTS, and I will write them on their minds.”
Jer 31 33
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my TORAH within them, and I will write it on their HEARTS. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people
2 cor 3 3
And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human HEARTS.
1 tim 1:5
Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure HEART, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
~Now you.can understand~
Rev 12-17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”
Rev 14 12
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus
Rev 22 14
Blessed are those washing their robes, that their right will be to the tree of life, and they shall enter into the city by the gates.
@@TheBiblicalRoots Sir , the Law of Yah it is not the Law of Moses.
Acts 15 and this passage is just saying you can't rely on circumcision for salvation which is exactly what the people he is criticizing believe. Although I'm sure Rob is probably circumcised and had his children if he has any were circumcised. Most people do.
It's not to be ligualized but from Thy Heart.
Yep, they end up denying the divinity of Christ and become "nohaides" or coverts to Judaism ( if they make up stories about how they felt since childhood they were Jews)
Everything said can apply to every believer, Torah affirming or not. The implication in this video is that practicing Torah necessarily leads to trusting in ones works instead of Christ for salvation.
I can't speak for others, but for me and my house, Christ is the foundation of our faith and salvation.
Our testimony and the Father's blessings speak well enough to those who personally interact with us.
As for us knowing Him:
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;
1Jn 2:5 but whoso keepeth his word, in him verily hath the love of God been perfected. Hereby we know that we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk even as he walked.
So yes, part of knowing Him means that we do something, namely keep His commandments, regardless of what you believe those to be.
Amen, Justin!
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, *Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?*
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, *keep the commandments.*
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, *Which?* Jesus said, *Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,*
Matthew 19:19 *Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.*
_In Matthew 19:16 a man asks, “Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”_
_Matthew 19:17 Jesus replies, “... keep the commandments.”_
_Matthew 19:18 the man then asks, “Which?” (meaning “which” commandments)._
_Matthew 19:18-19 Jesus' replies by reciting from the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself._
_According to Exodus 34:28 the words of the covenant [are] the ten commandments._
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables *the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.*
_Likewise in Deuteronomy 4:13._
Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which *he commanded you to perform, ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.*
Hebrew Roots is a stepping stone to conversion. Being treated as second class citizens in the messianic Jewish Movement, many have left it and joined Hebrew Roots congregations also called the Sacred Name Movement. But it only lasts for a while and doesn't satisfy. Finally, those hungry souls of returning Ephraimites kept searching, and many found that there are congregations that are conducting Jewish conversions without requiring to deny faith in Yeshua. Some examples are Lapid Judaism, Ani Judaism and Messianic Dallas. There are also some in the mainsrream Jewish world that do the same. The geulah has begun.
Does the Greek way of thinking lead people to misinterpret God's word? I will prove it. What three laws were defined in Acts 15 by Paul?
Paul makes blasphemous statements against the ten commandments
The meaning of the word blasphemy.
NT Greek words for blasphemy are: G987 βλασφημέω & G988 βλασφημία
G987 βλασφημέω blasphēmeō blas-fay-meh'-o
From G989; to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: - (speak) blaspheme (-er, -mously, -my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.
(Note in the above... (specifically to speak impiously) which means not showing respect or reverence, especially for a god.)
G988 βλασφημία blasphēmia blas-fay-me'-ah
From G989; vilification (especially against God): - blasphemy, evil speaking, railing.
(Note in the above... (vilification) which means to utter slanderous and abusive statements against & to lower in estimation or importance.)
Blasphemy:
#1 Not showing respect or reverence = Blasphemy.
#2 Uttering a slanderous abusive statement = Blasphemy.
#3 Lowering in estimation or importance = Blasphemy.
@@KeepingWatch95in what book, chapter and verse does he make this blasphemy statement in which feel he blaspheme the ten commandments
@@luiscajigas5567 _First Paul questions whether the words of God's covenant were glorious..._
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, *was glorious...*
_Questioning if the ten commandments were glorious is a blasphemous question against the ten commandments._
_Paul blasphemies again at the end of the verse. Paul says the glory of the ten commandment was done away. He likens it to the glory on Moses face._
2 Corinthians 3:7 ... *which glory was to be done away:*
_Saying the glory of the ten commandments was done away is a directly blasphemous statement against the ten commandment._
@@luiscajigas5567 By Paul questioning if the words of the covenant were ever glorious, he is "not showing respect or reverence" he is "uttering a slanderous abusive [question]" he is "Lowering in estimation or importance" of the words of the covenant. Paul hit all three points of blasphemy.
Blasphemy:
#1 Not showing respect or reverence = Blasphemy.
#2 Uttering a slanderous abusive statement = Blasphemy.
#3 Lowering in estimation or importance = Blasphemy.
@@luiscajigas5567 And Paul blasphemes (in the same verse) by calling the words of the covenant/the ten commandments the ministration of death.
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if *the ministration of death,* written and engraven in stones, ...
By calling the ten commandments "the ministration of death" Paul is:
#1 Not showing respect or reverence which = Blasphemy.
#2 Uttering a slanderous abusive statement which = Blasphemy.
#3 Lowering in estimation or importance which = Blasphemy.
Jesus pretty much said it was never about religion.
The Sabbath was made for Man
(To produce Christ and reveal God)
But man was not made for the Sabbath.
(Because Man is made for God)
God is Love.
Religion isn’t free will.
#BeLove
@hexproofproject8199 Amen indeed.
Jesus Christ is alive....this is the gospel.
Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
12 For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
-ROMANS 2
I'm going to be honest. I clicked on the video because I thought this was about the number 1 dancer in Hebrew roots. That "g" looked like "c".
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this is truth, For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, God bless
In Psalms 119:142, the Torah is truth, which means that this view is opposed to truth.
When ppl find out that I don't do easter or christmas, they ask me if I am Jewish. I say no. I say I'm like Abram/Abraham. I'm a Hebrew. I've crossed over as Abraham did. He was not a Jew nor an Israelite. He was a man who heard the call of our Father telling him to turn his back on man's ways and walk in His Word. To obey His Word by following His Instructions, which by the way are NOT Laws (mans mistranslation). Man's doctrines are laws. Not the Father's. I haven't watched this whole video yet, but my heart dropped when I saw the title and read some of the comments. Ppl have been so conditioned by man. Mislead by man made doctrines and traditions. I know. I was once there. Since 2013, layers of religious doctrine have been peeling away and I have been released from false teachings. What most ppl don't realize is that all 41,000+ religions were cultivated by the teachings and traditions of our Father and what Yeshua exampled. But they were changed into something more "manageable" to allow control over people and to also put a veil up between them and Truth, His Word. Which by the way has NEVER changed! But man changed it. This false teacher and those that believe the words that are spoken in this video...I believe that not all is lost. This man and all those still shackled to man's theology will one day have eyes that SEE and ears that HEAR. I just hope it is before his return.
Thanks for sharing your story, Timeless! It is a lot more common than you might think. And, with all due respect-and I say this out of love in the hope that you can see it-you have not been shedding "man-made doctrines." You've merely switched from one set of "man-made doctrines" to another. I say this because the new view you've come to embrace was taught to you by a man. (Based on the language in your post, my guess would be Jim Staley.) I would really encourage you to spend a few hours working your way through the Gospels all by yourself, focusing on the words of Jesus. Because in them, you will find life.
Blessings, Rob
"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life." (John 5:39-40).
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thank you for being more respectful than my immediate family who are still shackled to man's doctrines.
In Psalms 119:53, he said that hot indignation seizes him because of the wicked who forsake the Torah. God did not command to do evil in the Torah, but to do what is holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), and Christ did not do evil when he set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Torah, so it is completely absurd to think that the evil doers are those who are teaching people to obey what God has commanded in accordance with following Christ's example. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Torah was how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel message, which he prophesied would be proclaimed to all nations (Matthew 24:12-14), so it is again absurd to think that people are undermining the work of Christ by teaching people to obey the Torah that he taught by word and by example. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Torah is the way to believe in everything that he accomplished through his ministry and through the cross, not the way to undermine his work or the way to say that what he did is not enough.
God is trustworthy, therefore the Torah is also trustworthy (Psalms 19:7), so relying on what God has instructed is the way to rely on God, not the way to rely on our own effort, while considering what God has instructed to be untrustworthy is also considering God to be untrustworthy. The Torah is God's word and Jesus is God's word made flesh, so it is contradictory for someone to want to put their faith in Jesus, but not put their faith in the Torah. In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have minds set on the flesh, who are enemies of God, who refuse to submit to the Torah. In Galatians 5:19-23, everything listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against the Torah while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it. The Torah is God's instructions for how to have faith, not the way to add our own effort on top of our faith.
In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey the Torah that he might know Him and Israel too, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so knowing God and Jesus is the goal of the Torah, which is eternal life (John 17:3) and righteousness for everyone who has faith (Romans 10:2-4). So Philippians 3 should not be interpreted as saying that the Torah is rubbish and we need to focus on knowing Jesus instead, but rather Paul had been obeying the Torah without being focused and knowing Jesus, so he had been missing the whole goal of the Torah, and that is what he counted as rubbish.
Jesus set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Torah, so he was much more zealous for it than the Pharisees were, and he never criticized them for obeying it, but he did criticize them for not obeying it or for not obeying it correctly. For example, in Mark 7:6-9, Jesus said that the Pharisees were hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God in order to establish their own traditions. In Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that tithing was something that they ought to be doing while not neglecting weightier matters of the Torah of justice, mercy, and faith, so he was not coming against their obedience to the Torah, but rather he was calling them to a higher level of obedience to it in a manner that is in accordance with its weightier matters.
While we do not earn our righteousness by obeying God, that does not mean that we are not still obligated to obey what He has commanded. In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey the Torah, and he chose the way of faithfulness by having the Torah on his heart, so that is the way to act in accordance with the grace of Jesus, not the way to choke it out, and that has always been the one and only way to become righteous by grace through faith. In 1 John 2:4, those who say that they know Jesus, but don't obey his commands are liars, and in 1 John 3:4-6, those who continue to practice sin in transgression of the Torah have neither seen nor known him, so we can't know Jesus instead of following God's instructions for how to know Him. God does not command manure, but rather the righteous deeds of the saints are like fine white linen (Revelation 19:8).
He's blatantly pulling Psalms 51:16-17 our of context because it goes on to say: 18 Do good to Zion in your good pleasure; build up the walls of Jerusalem; 19 then will you delight in right sacrifices, in burnt offerings and whole burnt offerings then bulls will be offered on your altar.
Yeshua taught us how to live. He fulfilled Torah perfectly. We cannot save ourselves. All this is true. However, to love God and your neighbor, Torah provides a lot of guidance. It’s not the rituals in Torah, which many are not even possible, but the teaching, the guidance, especially the moral laws, that you should study. When Yeshua returns, He will teach us how to follow Torah perfectly.
Amen, Amen
6:36 The big problem is your understanding of Rabbinic Pharisee. They have Oral Torah laws added after Mt.Sinai. Since the Hebrew Roots Movement is like the charismatic movement, we don’t have an authoritarian authorities. Sadly many false believers want to control others using this loop in te movement. I’ll like to have a conversation with you. May Yehovah bless you and keep you brother.
Agreed, lables are of the decievers Works. Pitting Man against Man, and turning man from following the Wisdom that is Torah.
@@6969smurfy yea like they like to put Paul vs James. They love doing that. Brother vs brother
Lawlessness Matthew 7:21-23. 458. anomia lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin. 458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") - properly, without law;
lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law (His written and living Word).
Start with Faith ❤
Faith comes by hearing God talk to you personally 😮
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD,,, WORD here is the Holy Spirit, so faith comes by hearing God talk to you personally 😮
All will be taught by God,,, taught here is sound down into the ears 😮 Hmm 🤔
The number one danger of Christianity: Maintaining the Grace vs Law argument. How selfish. Appropriating the benefits of God’s grace while denying God’s Law. How one sided, ignoring James - Faith without works is dead.
Thanks, Stephen. I certainly don't ignore James. Here's a video specifically on James 2:14-26:
*Is Faith Without Works Dead?*
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Blessings, Rob
Ok so… you know a lot of stuff so help me out here… what is up with all these people lately saying the New Covenant had not yet started and it is ONLY for Israel and Judah??
Hey, Jonathan! I answer that question directly in this video:
*Are Christians under a New or Renewed Covenant?*
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Blessings, Rob
Galatians 5:11. Clearly Paul teaches physical circumcision still ( present tense ) God’s circumcision is the removal of the for skin ( skin in front ) , the circumcision of the Pharisees is much more than that. Got Torah Got Truth
"This is my rule in all the churches. Was anyone at the time of his call already circumcised? Let him not seek to remove the marks of circumcision. Was anyone at the time of his call uncircumcised? Let him not seek circumcision." (1 Cor 7:17-18).
@@TheBiblicalRoots is Paul contradicting himself teaching circumcision in Galatians then not in 1 Corinthians. It is impossible for a man who has been physically circumcised to be uncircumcised. Paul is referring to Jews ( circumcised ) don’t need to become uncircumcised ( gentile ) and gentiles don’t need to become Jews. Vs. 24 let each man remain with God in which he was called. Vs. 19 Circumcision ( Jew ) is nothing, uncircumcision ( gentile ) is nothing , the important thing is that everyone Jew or Gentile was to keep the commandments of God. Notice Paul doesn’t say keep some of the commandments or keep the commandments of Rabbis, theologians or pastors. Just the commandments of God. Got Torah Got Truth
Paul is referring to circumcision..
Ok. So i can murder until death because my works has nothing to do with my salvation? Inputed righteousness?
I always get concerned when Hebrew Roots folks ask if it's okay now to murder and commit adultery and so on. Is murder something you _want_ to do, Indo? (I hope that's not why you're asking!) Or is it your position that mainstream Christianity teaches that God is cool with murder under the New Covenant?
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots my question had nothing to do with being torah observant. I’m asking specifically about imputed righteousness, and that my works has nothing to do with my salvation
@@TheBiblicalRoots your interpretation of Paul is that it’s Jesus and nothing more. Faith alone works, has nothing to do with my salvation. So, if it’s faith alone, and I have imputed righteousness, and my works, has nothing to do with my salvation then technically, you’re saying, I can murder until death, and still walk in to the kingdom.
How does your interpretation that you just said line up with Paul when he says the unrighteous will not make it into the kingdom . First, Corinthians69 and Galatians five. Literally, he says, drunks and fornicators will not inherit the kingdom.
See, I think you have the context wrong, and you think they are trying to believe in Jesus, and be obedient whereas I believe what is actually going on is they are not believing in Jesus, and trying to resurrect her own body and have eternal life through their law keeping .
So answer the question can I murder until death if it is faith alone, and I have imputed righteousness ? Because you just said salvation, you cannot add anything to it. You cannot add your works it’s belief alone in Jesus.
@@TheBiblicalRoots this has nothing to do with being Torah, observant, and the topic is about imputed righteousness and do I need to be obedient after belief, Because in this video, you are saying Works has nothing to do with your salvation
@@indo3052 Hi, indo. The answer to your question is no, of course not. Murder is as forbidden in the New Testament as it was under the law of Moses, and as it was _before_ the law of Moses was given. You're touching on a few issues here. And just to be clear, it wasn't me who invented this idea. The Bible says,
"Yet we know that a person is _not justified by works of the law_ but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and _not by works of the law,_ because _by works of the law no one will be justified"_ (Gal 2:16).
"who saved us and called us to a holy calling, _not because of our works_ but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began" (2 Tim 1:9)
"he saved us, _not because of works done by us in righteousness,_ but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit" (Titus 3:5)
So obeying the law does not make anyone right with God or righteous in His eyes.
Does the fact that salvation comes through faith alone mean we are free to engage in all kinds of wickedness? Of course not! Jesus and the NT authors are very clear that we are to be loving, obedient, humble, generous, and so on.
"But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code" (Rom 7:6). And how do we know if we are serving "in the new way of the Spirit"? "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law" (Gal 5:22-23).
Shalom, Rob
Ephesians 4 24 Paul says put on Holiness and righteousness how did they know what Holiness and righteousness was there was no new testament when Paul wrote this. They knew what Holiness and righteousness was because of the Torah the Old testament
Actually Eph 4:24 Paul said, “put on the new self [man]”
*“..and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.”*
It’s imperative that we read and interpret the text with exegesis; not with eisegesis, not reading into the text what we want it to say, but what it actually says and it’s meaning. Ephesians 4:24 end capped what Paul said. Please go back and read the entirety of Chapter 4 to obtain complete understanding of it and especially the verse you referenced because it doesn’t support your comment.
@@mrsmorgann0000 if there's no New testament written at the time how did the people know what righteousness and Holiness is
I agree. R.
YHWH shared His Name with us to encourage a closer relationship with Him. Why do we use generic terms instead? The name Jesus is a Greek name. Yeshua was not a Greek. How do we show gratitude to YHWH fir sharing this intimate detail? By changing His name!
The Name above all other names isn't called. If your child decided to change your name, their parent, how would you react?
Hey, WL! Why would you think we are only allowed to refer to our CREATOR by one name or that Jesus is the "wrong" name? In fact, Scripture refers to both God and Jesus by many names! The NT authors referred to Jesus as Ἰησοῦς (Iesous), not Yeshua. So we know it is perfectly acceptable to refer to Jesus in any language. Isaiah 9:6 says of the Messiah, "his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." And Isaiah 7:14 says, "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." And Jesus consistently referred to Himself as "Son of Man." So, respectfully, the idea that we can only refer to Him by one name or another is silly.
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When one reads Phil 3:1-10 correctly, we will understand the issue Paul is dealing with is ethnic superiority. It’s 👉🏻NOT👈🏻 about whether to keep all the Torah or not after getting saved. Those Paul is dealing with were likely not born a Jew but became one by the 👉🏻oral law/traditions of men👈🏻 of the day, by proselytism. There is 👉🏻no law in Torah 👈🏻 which states one must be circumcised (i.e., become a Jew) to be part of the covenants of YaH. 👉🏻No one was ever saved by circumcision. 👈🏻 These leaders of the area of Philippi held one must become a Jew through circumcision added to faith in Yeshua to be saved. Again, Paul is 👉🏻NOT 👈🏻 dealing with whether or not to keep all the Torah laws. It’s a matter of 👉🏻oral laws/traditions of men for the communities.👈🏻
Paul is saying, I’m born a Jew and I don’t trust in my ethnicity for salvation but in the work of Yeshua for entrance into the kingdom.
Rob is making an argument which is not in the text.
Here is my teaching on Phil 3:1-10
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It's "HIS" Faith not ours!
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Roman Catholic and Protestant Confessions about Sunday
The vast majority of Christian churches today teach the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, as a time for rest and worship. Yet it is generally known and freely admitted that the early Christians observed the seventh day as the Sabbath. How did this change come about?
History reveals that it was decades after the death of the apostles that a politico-religious system repudiated the Sabbath of Scripture and substituted the observance of the first day of the week. The following quotations, all from Roman Catholic sources, freely acknowledge that there is no Biblical authority for the observance of Sunday, that it was the Roman Church that changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week.
In the second portion of this booklet are quotations from Protestants. Undoubtedly all of these noted clergymen, scholars, and writers kept Sunday, but they all frankly admit that there is no Biblical authority for a first-day sabbath.
Roman Catholic Confessions
James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.
"But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."
Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed., p. 174.
"Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
"Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."
John Laux, A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies (1 936), vol. 1, P. 51.
"Some theologians have held that God likewise directly determined the Sunday as the day of worship in the New Law, that He Himself has explicitly substituted the Sunday for the Sabbath. But this theory is now entirely abandoned. It is now commonly held that God simply gave His Church the power to set aside whatever day or days she would deem suitable as Holy Days. The Church chose Sunday, the first day of the week, and in the course of time added other days as holy days."
Daniel Ferres, ed., Manual of Christian Doctrine (1916), p.67.
"Question: How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
"Answer. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of, and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church.'
James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.
"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!
"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"
The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."
Catholic Virginian Oct. 3, 1947, p. 9, art. "To Tell You the Truth."
"For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the[Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible."
Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.
"Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
"Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Answer. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
Martin J. Scott, Things Catholics Are Asked About (1927),p. 136.
"Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday .... Now the Church ... instituted, by God's authority, Sunday as the day of worship. This same Church, by the same divine authority, taught the doctrine of Purgatory long before the Bible was made. We have, therefore, the same authority for Purgatory as we have for Sunday."
Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Society (1975),Chicago, Illinois.
"Regarding the change from the observance of the Jewish Sabbath to the Christian Sunday, I wish to draw your attention to the facts:
"1) That Protestants, who accept the Bible as the only rule of faith and religion, should by all means go back to the observance of the Sabbath. The fact that they do not, but on the contrary observe the Sunday, stultifies them in the eyes of every thinking man.
"2) We Catholics do not accept the Bible as the only rule of faith. Besides the Bible we have the living Church, the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide us. We say, this Church, instituted by Christ to teach and guide man through life, has the right to change the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament and hence, we accept her change of the Sabbath to Sunday. We frankly say, yes, the Church made this change, made this law, as she made many other laws, for instance, the Friday abstinence, the unmarried priesthood, the laws concerning mixed marriages, the regulation of Catholic marriages and a thousand other laws.
"It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which there is nothing in their Bible."
T. Enright, C.S.S.R., in a lecture at Hartford, Kansas, Feb. 18,1884.
"I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says, 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says: 'No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.' And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church."
Protestant Confessions
Protestant theologians and preachers from a wide spectrum of denominations have been quite candid in admitting that there is no Biblical authority for observing Sunday as a sabbath.
Anglican/Episcopal
Isaac Williams, Plain Sermons on the Catechism , vol. 1, pp.334, 336.
"And where are we told in the Scriptures that we are to keep the first day at all? We are commanded to keep the seventh; but we are nowhere commanded to keep the first day .... The reason why we keep the first day of the week holy instead of the seventh is for the same reason that we observe many other things, not because the Bible, but because the church has enjoined it."
Canon Eyton, The Ten Commandments , pp. 52, 63, 65.
"There is no word, no hint, in the New Testament about abstaining from work on Sunday .... into the rest of Sunday no divine law enters.... The observance of Ash Wednesday or Lent stands exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday."
Bishop Seymour, Why We Keep Sunday .
We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of the one holy Catholic Church."
Baptist
Dr. Edward T. Hiscox, a paper read before a New York ministers' conference, Nov. 13, 1893, reported in New York Examiner , Nov.16, 1893.
"There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week .... Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament absolutely not.
"To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years' intercourse with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question . . . never alluded to any transference of the day; also, that during forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated.
"Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history . . . . But what a pity it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!"
William Owen Carver, The Lord's Day in Our Day , p. 49.
"There was never any formal or authoritative change from the Jewish seventh-day Sabbath to the Christian first-day observance."
Congregationalist
Dr. R. W. Dale, The Ten Commandments (New York: Eaton &Mains), p. 127-129.
" . . . it is quite clear that however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath - . . 'Me Sabbath was founded on a specific Divine command. We can plead no such command for the obligation to observe Sunday .... There is not a single sentence in the New Testament to suggest that we incur any penalty by violating the supposed sanctity of Sunday."
Timothy Dwight, Theology: Explained and Defended (1823), Ser. 107, vol. 3, p. 258.
" . . . the Christian Sabbath [Sunday] is not in the Scriptures, and was not by the primitive Church called the Sabbath."
Agree fully with your collection of sabbath vs SUNday transcripts. The problem is, many who have, or are discovering this, are being conned into going beyond the Sabbath, and getting tangled back into the mosaic law again..
@@astutik8909 I agree to a point. However, the first thing we should all look at is ...Is it the Mosaic Law or Is it the law of the Creator of the universe, given to mankind to establish Heaven on Earth, where it is going to end up anyway? Did Moses dream all this stuff up or was he Just Yahovahs secretary? I'm guessing you know the answer to that., And sure there are over 200 we can't do, because there isn't a Temple of Brick and mortar. However, the rest are completely achievable.
@@nancycorbin7317 the main point is this. That was the old covenant. Christianity is the new covenant. ( Im not including catholicism as Christianity).
The next point is this.
The 10 commandments were written by ,
1, the finger of God
2, in stone,
3, and placed inside the ark of the covenant.
Moses law ( although Given to Moses by God), wasnt. Why?
Because it served as a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. The old sacrificial laws of atonement etc are finished and completed in Christ. The 10 commandments, and the testamony of Jesus remain.
Circumcision of the heart replaced circumcision of the flesh. Various food laws etc, may still still be kept ( we keep most of them), but salvation is not based on these. Jews may continue to keep these. Gentiles may keep some, none, or all as well.
@@astutik8909 noooooo. First , please understand Jesus didn't start Christianity, He was not a Christian, Paul was neither , or any of the other 12. So, where did Christianity get named ? Because, Yeshua was the Way, and His followers were all original followers of the Way...
What way?????
And if you actually think that Yeshua abolished the Law , Then that makes every Bible ever printed A complete and total LIE. Because,Him being the awesome perpetual offering of Sin for Humanity, as a perfect blemishless Lamb.... Did not make him even once, break His own Kingdoms Laws, and He Said clearly , if you love Him , Keep His Kingdom Laws, Then and Only Then are you his disciplined Learner.
What does that mean....
@@astutik8909 and Also, just because Jesus shows up right there in Genesis 1:1 , I. Written logos...well, hmmm, I guess He stayed that logos until John 1:1..... Then , oh my goodness, that logos become Flesh...guess that makes all that stuff out in the desert...Jesus logos Also....hmmmm...So , would The word go against the logos ?
It's those things that make you go hmmmmm.
Amen thank you this was an excellent video God bless you for explaining this it was very helpful 🙏🏾
Thank you, Miss DFM! I'm so glad it was helpful.
Bless you! Rob
"And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles." Zechariah 14:16-19 NKJV
The Law was NEVER salvific.
If people in the Old Testament could have been saved by following the Law and things like animal sacrifice, they never would have needed a Savior, and Christ would be irrelevant. Therefore it is NOT an offense to the cross when it is resumed under Christ's direction during His millennial reign.
There is a FOURTH temple, priests and Levites, and ANIMAL SACRIFICE continually being practiced because it was never an alternative to the work of saving grace, and Christ being the Word in the flesh literally embodies the very laws you hate.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Great stuff!
Satan laughs out loud as Christians fall for the Law vs Grace deception. We have Grace and honour the Law. For a start, tell me one of the 10 commandments that is impossible to keep?
So here is a question for all the Rob followers.
If we know for an absolute, undeniable and true FACT, that The Bible and Bible scholars Attest , and affirm The Kingdom of God, Saturday (Sabbath) Worship. Why is there still an Argument? And why haven't you looked at your self in the mirror , and asked Who is Your God. There is only ONE. And it wasn't Constantine and the Catholic Church.
And, them you have to say , being wrong and lied to , by folks like Rob...
What else are they incorrect about???? BIG Question ❓
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@@digimike8 whoo wee, now knowing you supposed to be Pentecostal, myriad of questions?
However, you need to look up in Deuteronomy, and acts 15....what appears in every Bible I have (117 ) ....For those who are Turning to GOD (Yahovah) (The Father) .....The one Who sent Him , as Yeshua states in John 15.....Are you in the Vine, Do you Know the Owner?
@@digimike8 I'm quite sure the pentecostals you have been hanging out with, stick with the Catholic affirmations of Faith....just like was handed down through the lies of the Greek church Fathers, and to the Methodist church which pays homage to the Catholic kingdom in their affairs of beliefs.
@@nancycorbin7317 What do you do when you break the law/Torah aka sin to reconcile with God?
@@digimike8 didn't Paul tell His Brothers and fellow Jews in Rome....
What do we do then , throw away the Instructions that Yahovah gave us..? Heaven forbid....if it wasn't for His instructions Torah, law...I would not know what sin is.
Bad teachers happen are prominent throughout the body of Christ. Be it Baptist, Anglican, Pentecostal, Seventh day adventist, Jehovah Witness or Torah observant.
Most teachers and Pastors are teaching from what they have been taught. Recycling the beliefs of those who come before, through seminary, church, books or on the internet such as youtube.
Most want to teach their own belief in what is right and wrong, condemning the beliefs of those that dont agree.
Faith has become latly based on what others believe and teach. We as a body spend more time seeking the thoughts of others then in prayer
Many dont even read the word in context, or study the scriptures in whole.
We should be leading others into relationship, encouraging others to pray, meditate on the word and live a life of conviction, convicted by the spirit and the word in our own hearts.
but if we dont read the word, then how can the spirt truly convict for the holy spirit is our teacher.
For if one through reading and meditating, come to the revelation they should eat kosha, then they should eat kosha, and dont let man tell you otherwise, otherwise man has become your ultimate authority
the same if you read and haven't come to that revelation, then dont feel pressured to eat kosha because another believer or teacher tells you you must, otherwise again you have put man as your authority.
The more we read, the more we pray, the better our understanding. we must circumcise the heart first.
I would never teach someone they must keep the law, or that the law was done away with. I would encourage them to read the word, not just the new testement, but the old as well and live by what the spirt puts on their heart. this way, we should all be point the same way,
Its good to share with others in friendly discussions, why we do or dont do certain things, and allow the spirt to use that teach others, and vice versa.
We either live by one of 3 ways.
1. we live for ourselves, as a Christian, we would read the bible and either take no notice, or read it with a view of what i dont have to do. or just dont read
2. we live for our cultural surroundings, be it a church or movement, or other believers. with this heart we live by how others teach or instruct, we seek mans and clarity over the word and prayer
3. we live for God, we seek his word, we pray, we may listen to others for perspective, but the word is our main authority and we seek prayer for clarity as we reason sometimes contradicting viewpoints. and we live a life convicted by the spirit.
in conclusion, Toraism is no more dangerous then any other form of Christianity, living of the faith of others is the most dangerous.
Its not what you do, its why you do it. and its this theme, that i personally see Paul struggling to get across, not the do's and dont's but the why.
know he already loves you. your not gaining approval, but live a life of one who is already approved
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't even Christians to begin with. They believe Jesus was the reincarnation of Michael the Archangel.
So all you have to do is believe that's not what James says James says faith without works is dead James 2.24
Yes, all we have to do is believe [Rom 10:9-10] as our works have zero effect in our justification with Yahweh. That’s the integral part you seem to be missing. However that does not negate the believer from producing fruit, i.e. good works. Our good works are the product, i.e. the fruit of our salvation, not the causation of it.
@@mrsmorgann0000 and if someone isn't obedient after. Then they truly arent saved right?
I come to realize there are many types of Hebrew Roots. I met someone today that said Jesus was not the Messiah he was not the Christ, Yeshua is. And I met Hebrew roots that actually use the name Jesus and I've heard them use other names like Yehowah or Yehoshua and Yahweh.
All of them are Judaizing attempts.
My cat brings me dead animals sometimes... I still probably am not grasping the full extent of the frustration of God (because He's God) but dang is it gross and a mess. I guess they believe humans are not good hunters so they have to bring us food? Talk about rubbish! Lol
Some HR members told me just the other day that different HR groups believe different things about different parts of Torah, such as which parts are relevant for us to follow today. So, I asked them which of them all is the TRUE group that has it all right, and they had no clue. I then revealed that they can't all be true, but they can all be wrong, or just one be right. This was unsettling to them since it was something they had never considered before. As a theologian, I then asked them to lay out for me what portions are relevant, and how they know that only those portions are relevant, and they didn't have a clue how to defend their beliefs, and that I could ask their leadership. I asked why I should do that when each of us is required to give an answer to the hope that we have, and, again, they had nothing of any substance to offer as a defense for their beliefs.
HR people are not yet as indoctrinated as JW's and Mormons, but if the Lord tarries long enough for His return for the Church, we may well see each faction clamping down on their expectations that their followers become better versed in their particular dogmas.
I've had similar interactions. Many in the Hebrew Roots Movement can only repeat what their teachers have told them, but they haven't worked out the theology for themselves. So when they are pressed, they're not sure how to answer. Which, sadly, can also be true sometimes in mainstream Christianity. Which is why I try to be so methodical in my teachings, and explain why these things are true, and why we should believe them. Blessings! Rob
So why would Jesus ask this type of question? 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” Luke 10:26
Even the disciples needed guidance: Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. Luke 24:45 (this wasn’t referring to the NT which wasn’t the scriptures in their days)
So the question, why different HR groups having different understandings of the scriptures? This could be easily addressed in many ways, one could be depended on if they are new to the understanding and they still need to have the scriptures opened up to them over time through diligence of study! Two this could depend on their previous backgrounds, if they were originally influenced by previous Christian dominations, or other religions and have to further study the scriptures to remove some of these influences. Three, they if they are newbies still don’t understand the current role of Jesus as high priest in the heavenly temple performing all the Torah requirements that the Levite’s we’re instructed to perform. Fourth, not fully understanding the scrolls that were removed by past Jewish Judaism groups and past 2nd and 3rd century Christian. In which these books were scriptures to Jesus.. So pretty much has to do with the level of scriptural understanding and where they are at in that level.. such as the calendar, biblical cosmology, the heavenly priesthood, etc...
But your question should first be why so many different Christian dominations? Why does the Catholic Church have sculptures everywhere? Why does the Catholic Church have altars and priests? Why does some Christian church have gay flags hung up and promote love of gays to stay as they are? Why are there KIng James only Christians that are against other Christians reading other translations? Why is their women pastors?
If the christians were all on the same page, there would only be one domination, so which Christian church is the right one?
I could spend a lot of time explaining and answering every single one of your easy questions. But this video points to the facts to your questions... th-cam.com/video/0PwMEH4tSFM/w-d-xo.html