In 1992 I was working at Boeing Everett as a contractor. I was outside walking to my car that was probably a mile walk. Paine Field was right there. A F -15 came off the runway and turned straight up. With a lot of noise it went straight up until you couldn't see it anymore. Very impressive! I've been in love with it ever since.
@@chheinrich8486 I wouldn't say the F-14 isn't a good dogfighter. It can very much hold its own against anything the Soviets had at the time. In a 1 circle the Tomcat will definitely surprise you, however let's not forget it wasn't designed for that. Like the F-4 Phantom II the Tomcat was designed as a Fleet defense interceptor. Had it not been for Phantoms being used as fighters in Vietnam, the Tomcat probably would not have had a built in gun either. The Navy would get their fighter back with the F-18 anyway, finally finding a role replacement for both the A-6 and the F-8 in 1 dam good aircraft.
@@chheinrich8486, the D model could hold its own against the 15 and 18, the 16 is just on its own level. Despite its size, the tomcat had the lower wing loading as well as having a higher snap off boresight to gain the lock, dump speed, or cause an overshoot. The issue is that the A and B models had shortcomings from the technology, the D eliminated them. The other issue was that the 14 flew with limiters on for almost all training, same as the 22 now does, to prolong airframe life
@@chkmcgee As far as I remember the hornet the navy didn't was was the super hornet not the legacy one, but I'd have to go look into the procurement again.
Don't know if it was mentioned, but the Mig-25 was flown across to Japan and landed there. Victor Belenko was the pilot who defected away from the Soviet Union and is now a US citizen.
My first two and half years in the Air Force was at a west German air base. A tactical fighter wing that supported just one type of plane…..this beauty the F-15 eagle. The best two and a half years of my life. Those pilots just loved leaving the base on full afterburners and it was a sight to see.
Bitte ein Bit?? I don't think I've encountered anyone else stationed there. I got there soon after the wall came down, just before Desert Storm. Got there in time for half my shop getting deployed and both wings flying to Saudi. We had a lot of fun trying this new IM technology out with our deployed members. Craziest thing was, it was more than 20 years before I found out my mother had worked with those developing that technology and speech-to-text technology that was likewise military long before it hit the civilian marketplace. I knew she was impressed with her company, but she never said what they had been developing. Hope you enjoyed your time there. I loved all the defacto airshows when the planes returned to base, but only got to see the plane up close twice...once at orientation to the base when jets were scrambled for our viewing, and once when I was any ole available airman with a flightline badge so that I could man a fire extinguisher for a lone engine mechanic performing a 2 man maintenance task late at night. Never got closer than the components after that. Tchüss!!
Dogfighting may not have entirely gone away, but it has undeniably *changed* since the introduction of air-to-air missiles. Among other things, it was previously pretty normal for a plane in a dogfight to sustain multiple hits, sometimes dozens of hits, and still emerge victorious. Even the tankiest of current aircraft cannot get hit by dozens of air-to-air missiles and still fight. Self-sealing fuel tank liners are one thing, but we haven't yet developed an aircraft that can regrow its wings mid-flight.
I was stationed in the Netherlands and they had F-15s there then I cross-trained in F-15 Avionics and spent the next 9 years working with them. Fun aircraft.
The F-15 was also a throw back tho Cockpit placement/visibility to the F-86 and the WWII fighters. If you want fast development look at the P-51 Mustang (90 Days).
The Foxbat was built in response to the US Valkyrie Mach 3 bomber. That never went past the test stage of development. Only 2 were built for testing and the program stopped.
The Valkyrie is the most beautiful and enigmatic aircraft ever made, in my opinion. Certainly not the best, but a thing of wonder; maybe only equaled by the Blackbird.
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Victor Belenko was a fine gentleman and a great pilot who unfortunately passed away last September I hope Holly would make a movie about this guy. He was a great man and was the bravest man I ever read about.
I love the fact that one time during a flight, an F-15 had one of it's entire main wings blown off, and the damn thing has so much thrust, that it still was able to fly back... ...MISSING AND ENTIRE WING! Epic...
There is actually a recording of it landing with the missing wing. I think but can’t guarantee there might even be a recording from the pilots view while still airborne.
I live in Fort Worth Texas and every year we have a large air show. I’ve seen the F22,F16 in action but without a doubt the F15 is the most impressive plane I’ve ever seen in the air. Absolutely destroyed the other planes with its presence & brutal force in the air. It’s an ABSOLUTE BOSS!
Had the distinct pleasure of being stationed at an airbase that operated the F-15C and F-15D up until fairly recently. It was always a pleasure watching them in the pattern. Fantastic, big, loud, powerful birds that will absolutely slap anything out of the sky.
Oh no! The Soviets are beating us! *Casually creates the world's most advanced air superiority fighter that survives and surpasses everyone else for over 45 years*
Fun fact F14 and F15 are the fighter duos of the US in their era like if the F15 need to rest for a while you're fcked when the 14 is chasing you Altho the F14 is slighty faster than 15 cause of it's design it is more than enough to cause the migs to retreat and made a worst decision either fight or be exploded
But the f14 in my book is inferiour because unlike in the movies, it wasnt really good in dogfights only long range missles, the f15 was good at both long range missles and close range dog fights
The f14 was kind of shit as a fighter. Massive tennis court. Was prone to flat spins. Better than most of the enemies stuff but they were much better at strikes.
The two were very different aircraft. The F15 is an air-superiority fighter designed to engage and destroy highly maneuverable fighters. The F14 is a fleet defense fighter designed to engage and destroy bombers from very long range. Plus the F14 had to take off and land on carriers which made it heavier with a much steeper glide slope. Different tools for different jobs.
While the F-14 is great in its own right, there is no scenario where the F-14 is better other than carrier landing. The F-15 is faster, quicker, more maneuverable, has better range and a higher payload. It's simply a better jet. The F-14 wouldn't even get a chance to fight if an F-15 is there because whatever enemy is there the F-15 has already blown it out of the sky.
I think Mustard is a very good aviation channel because it feels like he takes the time to really understand the big picture and nuance behind the history. Sandboxx, Rex's Hanger, IHYLS, and Not A Pound For Air To Ground are also pretty good at this too.
@@ArmchairDeity I'm personally not a fan of Dark Skies. I will admit he's gotten better recently, but a few years back he was one of the biggest spreaders of misinformation and I've never been able to completly wash that bad taste out of my mouth.
The energy maneuverability design wasn't part of the f15 design. They used brute force on the f15. They created the f16 with the energy maneuverability theory
The F-14/ Panavia Tornado was a Variable Sweep Wing, which means the plane literally changes shape mid-flight in order to have the flight geometry best suited to the speed no matter what speed it's going. But More moving parts means more points of failure, so that basically spelled the end before it really began...
My ex had a truck repair shop right on the final approach for Wright-Patt AFB. I saw some crazy planes fly in during the run up for the big Dayton Air Show. My hubby could tell me exactly what they were.
I was a US Marine Corps avionics technician in 1976 when the Foxbat landed in Japan. The avionics I worked on still had glass vacuum tubes, so I wasn't overly impressed when the news media declared that the Foxbat was utter crap. The story I had was that the Foxbat was intended to intercept the North American B-70 Valkyrie Mach 3 jet bomber, a program cancelled in favor of the Minuteman missile. The Valkyrie hung around for two reasons--Mach 3 research and as a means to get the USSR to waste money defending against a program that had been cancelled. The Valkyrie is why the F-15 and F-22 and F-35 are not Mach 3 fighters--Mach 3 was proven to be impractical given 1960's technology (and vacuum tubes--don't forget that transistors were still a work in progress during the early 1960's). The 1950's-era "missile fighter" programs evolved for a number of reasons beginning with aircraft guns lacking range, hit probability, and damage potential. During the Fifties the Genie unguided air-to-air atomic rocket was developed and that stayed in service for decades, superseded by the Nuclear Falcon, an atomic-tipped guided missile. The revolutionary Sidewinder missile began shooting down MiG-17's near Taiwan in 1958 but only had a range of around 2.5 miles--when you recall that the F-86 Saber couldn't climb high enough to reach the MIg-17 BUT did manage shooting down multiple MiG's flying above the Sabers using the AIM-9B, it's understandable why the future of air-to-air combat was missiles. Problem--operational and political factors limited the use of long-range missiles such as the Sparrow and Falcon to within visual range. The Grumman F-14 Tomcat was equipped with an electro-optical telescope that permitted positive visual identification of aircraft well beyond the distance that the naked eyeball or even a pair of binoculars could consistently achieve. Today, drones are the future of air-to-air combat--once the twin problems of control lag and lack of the drone's situational awareness have been solved. The Phoenix missile had a very long range and the F-14 was a fleet defense interceptor designed to counter long-range cruise missile attacks. Mission creep and uncooperative enemies who won't fight the way our textbooks demand they fight tend to create disappointment. The Foxbat is blind compared to the F-15 Eagle. Look at how the Foxbat's canopy is streamlined but the F-15 has a bubble canopy. The Foxbat has visual blind spots and its radar has a narrower search band. Vacuum tube radars generally have more raw output power than microchips, but digital circuits are much more sensitive--different countermeasures are required. The reason for such BIG missiles on the Foxbat was a large warhead and a larger rocket motor were required to deal with high-altitude Mach 3 heavy bombers. The Falcon of the USAF was a bomber killer that proved disappointing in Vietnam--the Sidewinder is a fighter killer. The Sparrow and its replacement AIM-120 were in-between, giving long range and large warhead while being capable of hitting a maneuvering target. Foxbat's missiles were not designed to kill fighters. Speaking of fighters, the YF-12 (based on an airframe and engine similar to the SR-71) had an internal missile bay for Mach 3 flight--the Foxbat hung its missiles in the air, causing drag and subjecting those missiles to heating by atmospheric friction. Intercepting another aircraft when both are flying at Mach 3 is quite the feat.
@@bloodyspartan300 My electronics experience and education said that vacuum tubes withstand voltage spikes better because microchips operate in tenths of volts and vacuum tubes need hundreds or thousands of volts depending upon application. Review the inverse square law and you'll see why some vacuum tubes are still current equipment. Protecting the microchips is a matter of isolating the chips from voltage spikes. Modern laptops have built-in surge protection but using a surge protector is still not a bad ideal Vacuum tubes have been supplanted by integrated circuits--transistors didn't completely replace vacuum tubes. The last common vacuum tube replaced is the Cathode Ray Tube, also known as the television picture tube. Hearing the news reporters sneering at the Mig-25's vacuum tubes was when I began to believe that news organizations were staffed by ignorant illiterates.
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The SR-71 BlackBirds ( Spy Plane ) and the F-15 Eagles ( Fighter Jet ) are the only 2 planes not to ever been shot down. Each of the Planes doing it in various different ways - which were directly related to how the planes were used for the missions that each were designed and made for. The SR-71's having a total thrust of 71'000 pounds between both engines. The Greatest Spy Plane and The Greatest Fight Plane both being companions. The SR-71'S got the intelligence that allowed the US Goverment to know how to use the F-15"S in the most effiecent manner to complete it's missions.
It would be cool to see you do some interviews. Perhaps interview someone from the Falkland Islands conflict, a modern fighter pilot, a Vietnam vet....there are many things you could do with your channel. I think this would take you to another level.
The Foxbat was fast and could go high but couldn’t dog fight. The Navy F14 TomCat had adjustable wings, controlled by a Computer. The TomCat was a great fighter jet, F15 had sped by the Air Force is a great fighter and another thing that made our equipment great was the fact they updated them as time went on.
So here's the thing: the F22 is meant to replace the F15, yet even today Boeing is still producing and delivering brand new F15EXs to our partners in the Pacific Rim (Korea, Japan, juat to name a few). Its even lighter than the original, has better payload, and has almost double the range of the original. It's even got a lot of the advanced avionics used on the F35 that's being produced. Definitely even more scary to our adversaries!
Somewhat related, there's a pilot that survived ejecting from an F-15 at supersonic speed. over 800 mph I believe. His name is Brian Udell, and there's a pretty awesome video of him talking about it on here.
you should also look up on youtube about the F-15 that shot down a satellite in the 1980's. This also scared the Russians. We had a super fighter that could carry a missile that could shot down a satellite. Space attack satellites were not out of reach for the Americans.
The story of the F-15 is like some Renaissance-era noble seeing Da Vinci's tank designs and then designing and building an army of M1 Abrams. The F-15 will be the very textbook definition of overkill for generations to come.
I've been a big fan of the F-15 for years. Watching it leave the runway and shoot straight up gives me goosebumps. I am fortunate that the Air National Guard stationed in my city still flies them. I get to see (and hear) them flying over my house at least 3 times a week.
He didnt even go over the wildest story of the F-15, one flew back to base after losing a wing to a SAM. It flew because the thrust to lift ratio is so high it practically classifies as a rocket. Fat Electrician did a video about it.
Mustard is surprisingly thorough in his research. The same could be said for Dark Skies/Docs/etc and Plainly Difficult, though for different styles of topics. MOAR! Edit: There are F-15s that take off and do maneuvers not far from where I work, you bet your ass they set off car alarms and go vertical faster than liners hit takeoff speed. Its a rocket with wings. Don't forget - its outdated too. Edit 2: Check out the American experimental aircraft list on wiki. There is some wild stuff to read up on.
The engines on the Foxbat were so powerful because the aircraft was so damn heavy. If those same engines were placed in a much lighter aircraft, i wonder just how fast it would fly
4:15 Unless the opposing military specializes in unconventional warfare where aircraft and bombs don't make a lot of sense, going to war with the US is literal insanity. According to a TH-camr I highly respect, this is because: "The most powerful air force in the world is the United States Air Force. The second most powerful air force in the world is the United States Navy. The United States owns the sky, and the night." And the US Army and Marine Corps are in the top 10, which is also crazy.
"I didn't know anything about this." You must read Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising". This book will blow your mind. It's important to remember, this book was written almost 40 years ago. Fictional story, but damn near technically correct.
The F14 was the result of SecDef MacNamara trying to force the F111 on the Navy. Grumman built the F14 around the AIM54 missle system being developed for the F111. Due to highly restrictive ROEs the AIM 54 was almost never used.
Little late but Phantom will always absolutely be my favourite aircraft as well! The design and the roles it played. And in my opinion, a little bit underrated with many aircraft like the F-14 and F-16 so on so forth, overshadowing it, albeit they do have basically the right to do so with their performance and all.. but if you could maybe react to the F-4 Phantom some time. (I should be writing this in a newer video but oh well).
You are talking about the Mig-31 Interceptor. It was/is a hypersonic interceptor build to take out SR-71. It was very fast but not a superiority fighter.
My only big gripe with this, is that they stripped as much weight as possible from the plane to set the records for what it could do... If you ask me it should have been as fully loaded and mission-capable as possible for them to have actually useful data for real combat scenarios. Instead of fudging it a bit.
Most people fail to understand that we went from "first flight" to the moon in less than one hundred years. I call such "The Industrial Revolution 2.0"
The Harrier was as dominant over the Falklands, there is more to a plane than it's design and components. The amount of training for a NATO pilot was incredible before the Soviet Union fell.
Here's the thing, the Russians learned from the mistakes of the Foxbat and made the Fulcrum, I forget who it was who told me, but in a dogfight/air-to-air match up, the Fulcrum (MiG-29, not the 35 "Fulcrum-F", although with the advent of the Eagle-EX, it might just be Round 2, let's go) was made to be the answer to the Eagle.
Air to air old school dog fights are almost imposible to have now , with the tecnology. F22 aren even seen on radar before they even fire. So by the time the other planes notice them they already got hit . The f15 had many air to air kills in irak tho.
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If you want a good story you should look into a Luftwaffe pilot name Erik Hartmann. Known as The Blonde Knight of German he flew the Messerschmidt 109 on the eastern front and in less than four years of combat became the leading ace of any air force, with a record that will never come close to being surpassed, by downing 352 Soviet planes.
You should do a story of Great Britain attempted to secretly cell service, the engine, where the use of the big 15 and Mc 21 which is what caused significant number of lives military pilots of US
Lockheed-Martin: "We have a next gen fighter that we want to make." Pentagon: "Why? Nothing has ever beaten the F-15." Lockhood-Martin: "Yes, but what about aliens?" Pentagon: "..." Lockheed-Martin: "So anyway, the F-22 is going to have the radar cross-section of a bumblebee..."
i'm a fan of the Fulcrum design (they have one at the National Museum of the USAF in Dayton, OH)...but the biggest difference between American and Russian designs is the technology, and "finesse" -Russian planes are more utilitarian in terms of aesthetics- they're built to "work"- not look beautiful, and it's seems their priority is the "appearance" of superiority...The US and France have both shown that you can have both (the Rafale is a perfect example- very pretty bird...compare the Concorde to the TU-144- they look the same, but the Concorde was far more advanced, and a very beautiful plane)...
In case you havent heard of the Channel yet - I'd recommend BlueJay with his video "The Dumbest Russian Voyage nobody talks about". While BlueJay's style is more comedic you might enjoy it - he does some really good content :)
It was when Lt. Victor Belenko flew his MiG-25 to Hakodate in Japan that we found out it wasn't the big bad fighter everyone thought it was. It had to have big Tumanski after burning jet engines because it was so heavy. It was skinned with stainless steel. It was really just a high speed missile platform.
I laughed when I watched this video.. you have no idea how many of those black and white 35mm slide projector military briefings I sat through when I was in the Air Force. The military briefing staff all sounded exactly the same- just like Navy Captain in the MiG-25 briefing film segment. Onward - I still remember when we were all shown the F15’s (in real life no less) up in Keflavik, Iceland (formerly a joint Navy P-3 Antisubmarine squadron and USAF fighter interceptor squadron playing tag with Russian bombers doing the U.S. East Coast to Cuba run). I think everyone on the flight-line was sporting wood when the first pair landed and taxied nearby. The sound alone of the engines made your internal organs vibrate. It was and still is a creature of beauty. If you get a chance, take a look around online and you can see the newest version that I would imagine are in production now if they sold enough contracts. Take care
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In 1992 I was working at Boeing Everett as a contractor. I was outside walking to my car that was probably a mile walk. Paine Field was right there. A F -15 came off the runway and turned straight up. With a lot of noise it went straight up until you couldn't see it anymore. Very impressive! I've been in love with it ever since.
To this day, the F-15 eagle maintains a 104-0 record. It has downed 104 enemy aircraft to 0 losses.
Most of those kills courtesy of the IAF
The F 15 came on around the same time as the F 14 Tom Cat (Navy) and F 16 fighting Falcon a great trio of aircraft.
@@chheinrich8486 I wouldn't say the F-14 isn't a good dogfighter. It can very much hold its own against anything the Soviets had at the time. In a 1 circle the Tomcat will definitely surprise you, however let's not forget it wasn't designed for that. Like the F-4 Phantom II the Tomcat was designed as a Fleet defense interceptor. Had it not been for Phantoms being used as fighters in Vietnam, the Tomcat probably would not have had a built in gun either. The Navy would get their fighter back with the F-18 anyway, finally finding a role replacement for both the A-6 and the F-8 in 1 dam good aircraft.
@@chheinrich8486, the D model could hold its own against the 15 and 18, the 16 is just on its own level. Despite its size, the tomcat had the lower wing loading as well as having a higher snap off boresight to gain the lock, dump speed, or cause an overshoot. The issue is that the A and B models had shortcomings from the technology, the D eliminated them. The other issue was that the 14 flew with limiters on for almost all training, same as the 22 now does, to prolong airframe life
@@brandondaway1the truth is the Navy didn't want the F18 it was forced on them just like the KC135 was forced on the Air Force.
@@chkmcgee As far as I remember the hornet the navy didn't was was the super hornet not the legacy one, but I'd have to go look into the procurement again.
@@chheinrich8486i don't think anyone praised the f14 for dogfights more on "intercepting" like it's intended purpose
Don't know if it was mentioned, but the Mig-25 was flown across to Japan and landed there. Victor Belenko was the pilot who defected away from the Soviet Union and is now a US citizen.
My first two and half years in the Air Force was at a west German air base. A tactical fighter wing that supported just one type of plane…..this beauty the F-15 eagle. The best two and a half years of my life. Those pilots just loved leaving the base on full afterburners and it was a sight to see.
Bitte ein Bit?? I don't think I've encountered anyone else stationed there. I got there soon after the wall came down, just before Desert Storm. Got there in time for half my shop getting deployed and both wings flying to Saudi. We had a lot of fun trying this new IM technology out with our deployed members. Craziest thing was, it was more than 20 years before I found out my mother had worked with those developing that technology and speech-to-text technology that was likewise military long before it hit the civilian marketplace. I knew she was impressed with her company, but she never said what they had been developing.
Hope you enjoyed your time there. I loved all the defacto airshows when the planes returned to base, but only got to see the plane up close twice...once at orientation to the base when jets were scrambled for our viewing, and once when I was any ole available airman with a flightline badge so that I could man a fire extinguisher for a lone engine mechanic performing a 2 man maintenance task late at night. Never got closer than the components after that. Tchüss!!
Especially considering that the F-15 is 40+ years old astoundingly dangerous aircraft
Most things get more dangerous as they get closer to 40… aircraft, buildings, bridges, people… 😅😉
Its a late 1960s design, with the first prototype flight in 1972. It's a 50 year old aircraft that is still an amazing machine today.
I have this feeling that when all is said and done, the two aircraft left standing alone will be the Buff and the Eagle.
Dogfighting may not have entirely gone away, but it has undeniably *changed* since the introduction of air-to-air missiles. Among other things, it was previously pretty normal for a plane in a dogfight to sustain multiple hits, sometimes dozens of hits, and still emerge victorious. Even the tankiest of current aircraft cannot get hit by dozens of air-to-air missiles and still fight. Self-sealing fuel tank liners are one thing, but we haven't yet developed an aircraft that can regrow its wings mid-flight.
I recall a Saudi pilot interviewed during Desert Storm declaring his adoration of the F-15, dubbing it the "greatest fighter in the world."
The fat electrician has a great video on the F15 you should watch too!
I was stationed in the Netherlands and they had F-15s there then I cross-trained in F-15 Avionics and spent the next 9 years working with them. Fun aircraft.
The F-15 was also a throw back tho Cockpit placement/visibility to the F-86 and the WWII fighters. If you want fast development look at the P-51 Mustang (90 Days).
The f16 was actually modeled after the p51 in a very big way. The air intake, the bubble canopy, etc.
the f4 phantom was said to prove that put powerful enough engines in a fighter ,you could make a brick fly through the air
The Foxbat was built in response to the US Valkyrie Mach 3 bomber. That never went past the test stage of development. Only 2 were built for testing and the program stopped.
The Valkyrie is the most beautiful and enigmatic aircraft ever made, in my opinion. Certainly not the best, but a thing of wonder; maybe only equaled by the Blackbird.
@@juanquireyes6703i would loved to have seen either of those beauties fly.
My mother worked on the F15 when she was in the Air Force. Such a badass jet.
The fat electrician did a great video on this
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Victor Belenko was a fine gentleman and a great pilot who unfortunately passed away last September I hope Holly would make a movie about this guy. He was a great man and was the bravest man I ever read about.
I read his book and wrote to him. I wish I still had the letter he sent back.
The F-5 pilot laughing when he realized he couldn't shake the F-15 is gold.
I love the fact that one time during a flight, an F-15 had one of it's entire main wings blown off, and the damn thing has so much thrust, that it still was able to fly back...
...MISSING AND ENTIRE WING!
Epic...
I love that the pics are available on the internet to see this!!
There is actually a recording of it landing with the missing wing. I think but can’t guarantee there might even be a recording from the pilots view while still airborne.
@t-9161 there is one. The fat electrician did a video of the F15 and that recording is in it
@@joshw1687 I saw it on that very channel 1 day after I made the comment.
"Why the F-15 terrified soviet russia." Terrified is past tense bro. It still terrifies the world.
I live in Fort Worth Texas and every year we have a large air show. I’ve seen the F22,F16 in action but without a doubt the F15 is the most impressive plane I’ve ever seen in the air. Absolutely destroyed the other planes with its presence & brutal force in the air. It’s an ABSOLUTE BOSS!
Had the distinct pleasure of being stationed at an airbase that operated the F-15C and F-15D up until fairly recently. It was always a pleasure watching them in the pattern. Fantastic, big, loud, powerful birds that will absolutely slap anything out of the sky.
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Enjoyed the video and thank you for your service!
An (I believe) Israel owned Eagle suffered a mid air collision...LOST A WING...then landed. Check the video.
Oh no! The Soviets are beating us! *Casually creates the world's most advanced air superiority fighter that survives and surpasses everyone else for over 45 years*
When I was very young, I saw a model kit of an F-15. I had to have it. It became my first model kit.
One of my buddies worked on the only F-15 that claimed two mig 29, it recently got retired and sent to ohio to be put in a museum.
Fun fact
F14 and F15 are the fighter duos of the US in their era like if the F15 need to rest for a while you're fcked when the 14 is chasing you
Altho the F14 is slighty faster than 15 cause of it's design it is more than enough to cause the migs to retreat and made a worst decision either fight or be exploded
To clarify the f15 is actually faster with a top speed of 1,650 mph vs the f14s 1544mph
But the f14 in my book is inferiour because unlike in the movies, it wasnt really good in dogfights only long range missles, the f15 was good at both long range missles and close range dog fights
The f14 was kind of shit as a fighter. Massive tennis court. Was prone to flat spins. Better than most of the enemies stuff but they were much better at strikes.
The two were very different aircraft. The F15 is an air-superiority fighter designed to engage and destroy highly maneuverable fighters. The F14 is a fleet defense fighter designed to engage and destroy bombers from very long range. Plus the F14 had to take off and land on carriers which made it heavier with a much steeper glide slope. Different tools for different jobs.
While the F-14 is great in its own right, there is no scenario where the F-14 is better other than carrier landing. The F-15 is faster, quicker, more maneuverable, has better range and a higher payload. It's simply a better jet. The F-14 wouldn't even get a chance to fight if an F-15 is there because whatever enemy is there the F-15 has already blown it out of the sky.
the fact that the eagle has shot down an actual satellite in orbit is actually ridiculous
I think Mustard is a very good aviation channel because it feels like he takes the time to really understand the big picture and nuance behind the history. Sandboxx, Rex's Hanger, IHYLS, and Not A Pound For Air To Ground are also pretty good at this too.
I like Dark Skies, too… he does a pretty good job with his research.
@@ArmchairDeity I'm personally not a fan of Dark Skies. I will admit he's gotten better recently, but a few years back he was one of the biggest spreaders of misinformation and I've never been able to completly wash that bad taste out of my mouth.
my absolutely fav fighter jet- powerful and beautiful...do love the design of the F-4 as well- menacing looking plane...
The energy maneuverability design wasn't part of the f15 design. They used brute force on the f15. They created the f16 with the energy maneuverability theory
How could the original leave out the time the F-15 lost a wing and still FLEW back and landed safely?
The F4 Phantom II was the ORIGINAL BEAST. I started my Air Force career working on the F4 E in 1981.
"Beast"
The F-14/ Panavia Tornado was a Variable Sweep Wing, which means the plane literally changes shape mid-flight in order to have the flight geometry best suited to the speed no matter what speed it's going. But More moving parts means more points of failure, so that basically spelled the end before it really began...
The Vacuum tubes were for incase of a nuclear attack EMP. The use of tubes was a defence compaired to the American model that was valnerble to EMPs
My ex had a truck repair shop right on the final approach for Wright-Patt AFB. I saw some crazy planes fly in during the run up for the big Dayton Air Show. My hubby could tell me exactly what they were.
I was a US Marine Corps avionics technician in 1976 when the Foxbat landed in Japan. The avionics I worked on still had glass vacuum tubes, so I wasn't overly impressed when the news media declared that the Foxbat was utter crap. The story I had was that the Foxbat was intended to intercept the North American B-70 Valkyrie Mach 3 jet bomber, a program cancelled in favor of the Minuteman missile. The Valkyrie hung around for two reasons--Mach 3 research and as a means to get the USSR to waste money defending against a program that had been cancelled. The Valkyrie is why the F-15 and F-22 and F-35 are not Mach 3 fighters--Mach 3 was proven to be impractical given 1960's technology (and vacuum tubes--don't forget that transistors were still a work in progress during the early 1960's).
The 1950's-era "missile fighter" programs evolved for a number of reasons beginning with aircraft guns lacking range, hit probability, and damage potential. During the Fifties the Genie unguided air-to-air atomic rocket was developed and that stayed in service for decades, superseded by the Nuclear Falcon, an atomic-tipped guided missile. The revolutionary Sidewinder missile began shooting down MiG-17's near Taiwan in 1958 but only had a range of around 2.5 miles--when you recall that the F-86 Saber couldn't climb high enough to reach the MIg-17 BUT did manage shooting down multiple MiG's flying above the Sabers using the AIM-9B, it's understandable why the future of air-to-air combat was missiles. Problem--operational and political factors limited the use of long-range missiles such as the Sparrow and Falcon to within visual range. The Grumman F-14 Tomcat was equipped with an electro-optical telescope that permitted positive visual identification of aircraft well beyond the distance that the naked eyeball or even a pair of binoculars could consistently achieve. Today, drones are the future of air-to-air combat--once the twin problems of control lag and lack of the drone's situational awareness have been solved. The Phoenix missile had a very long range and the F-14 was a fleet defense interceptor designed to counter long-range cruise missile attacks. Mission creep and uncooperative enemies who won't fight the way our textbooks demand they fight tend to create disappointment.
The Foxbat is blind compared to the F-15 Eagle. Look at how the Foxbat's canopy is streamlined but the F-15 has a bubble canopy. The Foxbat has visual blind spots and its radar has a narrower search band. Vacuum tube radars generally have more raw output power than microchips, but digital circuits are much more sensitive--different countermeasures are required. The reason for such BIG missiles on the Foxbat was a large warhead and a larger rocket motor were required to deal with high-altitude Mach 3 heavy bombers. The Falcon of the USAF was a bomber killer that proved disappointing in Vietnam--the Sidewinder is a fighter killer. The Sparrow and its replacement AIM-120 were in-between, giving long range and large warhead while being capable of hitting a maneuvering target. Foxbat's missiles were not designed to kill fighters. Speaking of fighters, the YF-12 (based on an airframe and engine similar to the SR-71) had an internal missile bay for Mach 3 flight--the Foxbat hung its missiles in the air, causing drag and subjecting those missiles to heating by atmospheric friction. Intercepting another aircraft when both are flying at Mach 3 is quite the feat.
It was my understanding that vacuum tubes are far superior at absorbing an emp surge, but then I neither saw or designed it
@@bloodyspartan300 My electronics experience and education said that vacuum tubes withstand voltage spikes better because microchips operate in tenths of volts and vacuum tubes need hundreds or thousands of volts depending upon application. Review the inverse square law and you'll see why some vacuum tubes are still current equipment. Protecting the microchips is a matter of isolating the chips from voltage spikes. Modern laptops have built-in surge protection but using a surge protector is still not a bad ideal
Vacuum tubes have been supplanted by integrated circuits--transistors didn't completely replace vacuum tubes. The last common vacuum tube replaced is the Cathode Ray Tube, also known as the television picture tube.
Hearing the news reporters sneering at the Mig-25's vacuum tubes was when I began to believe that news organizations were staffed by ignorant illiterates.
First and foremost I am grateful for this Knowledge and your experience. I also appreciate the time it took to write this , as I hate YT.
Second like most reporters and humans their ignorance should only be a temporary condition, They earned their stupidity and now the Socialist educated drones are at most full blown Marxists.
Third my Minimal experience in Aviation was In this Aircraft. Fuselage Splice Farmingdale , NY
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The F15 airframe is 104-0 in combat. 104 aerial kills to no losses
One of which was with a BOMB
I worked on the F-15!!! Still one of the best aircraft.
The F-15 holds the record of being the only plane to never be lost in combat.
Isreal about got a few more and two smoked,,,,but they all made it back RTB
It is also the only one to have an air to air kill with a 2,000lb guided bomb from what I know too :D
The SR-71 BlackBirds ( Spy Plane ) and the F-15 Eagles ( Fighter Jet ) are the only 2 planes not to ever been shot down. Each of the Planes doing it in various different ways - which were directly related to how the planes were used for the missions that each were designed and made for. The SR-71's having a total thrust of 71'000 pounds between both engines. The Greatest Spy Plane and The Greatest Fight Plane both being companions. The SR-71'S got the intelligence that allowed the US Goverment to know how to use the F-15"S in the most effiecent manner to complete it's missions.
It would be cool to see you do some interviews. Perhaps interview someone from the Falkland Islands conflict, a modern fighter pilot, a Vietnam vet....there are many things you could do with your channel. I think this would take you to another level.
The Foxbat was fast and could go high but couldn’t dog fight. The Navy F14 TomCat had adjustable wings, controlled by a Computer. The TomCat was a great fighter jet, F15 had sped by the Air Force is a great fighter and another thing that made our equipment great was the fact they updated them as time went on.
So here's the thing: the F22 is meant to replace the F15, yet even today Boeing is still producing and delivering brand new F15EXs to our partners in the Pacific Rim (Korea, Japan, juat to name a few). Its even lighter than the original, has better payload, and has almost double the range of the original. It's even got a lot of the advanced avionics used on the F35 that's being produced. Definitely even more scary to our adversaries!
Somewhat related, there's a pilot that survived ejecting from an F-15 at supersonic speed. over 800 mph I believe. His name is Brian Udell, and there's a pretty awesome video of him talking about it on here.
you should also look up on youtube about the F-15 that shot down a satellite in the 1980's. This also scared the Russians. We had a super fighter that could carry a missile that could shot down a satellite. Space attack satellites were not out of reach for the Americans.
The story of the F-15 is like some Renaissance-era noble seeing Da Vinci's tank designs and then designing and building an army of M1 Abrams. The F-15 will be the very textbook definition of overkill for generations to come.
thefatelectrician's "Bazooka tank" video is an absolute banger of a video, one of the funniest yet
the F15 also hit a moving helicopter with a laser guided bomb in desert storm
I've been a big fan of the F-15 for years. Watching it leave the runway and shoot straight up gives me goosebumps. I am fortunate that the Air National Guard stationed in my city still flies them. I get to see (and hear) them flying over my house at least 3 times a week.
He didnt even go over the wildest story of the F-15, one flew back to base after losing a wing to a SAM. It flew because the thrust to lift ratio is so high it practically classifies as a rocket. Fat Electrician did a video about it.
My 2 favorite planes are the A-10, and the F-15.
Mustard is surprisingly thorough in his research. The same could be said for Dark Skies/Docs/etc and Plainly Difficult, though for different styles of topics. MOAR!
Edit: There are F-15s that take off and do maneuvers not far from where I work, you bet your ass they set off car alarms and go vertical faster than liners hit takeoff speed. Its a rocket with wings. Don't forget - its outdated too.
Edit 2: Check out the American experimental aircraft list on wiki. There is some wild stuff to read up on.
My favorite video by Mustard is his one on the XB-70 Valkyre. My favorite ever bomber.
The engines on the Foxbat were so powerful because the aircraft was so damn heavy. If those same engines were placed in a much lighter aircraft, i wonder just how fast it would fly
It probably wouldn't given the metaphorical oceans of fuel needed to feed the damn things. Or maybe it would, I'm not an aerospace engineer (yet)
Great video man and great commentary.
4:15 Unless the opposing military specializes in unconventional warfare where aircraft and bombs don't make a lot of sense, going to war with the US is literal insanity.
According to a TH-camr I highly respect, this is because: "The most powerful air force in the world is the United States Air Force. The second most powerful air force in the world is the United States Navy. The United States owns the sky, and the night."
And the US Army and Marine Corps are in the top 10, which is also crazy.
And you have to remember this monster was designed on paper with slide rulers. Computers were in such an infancy then this was true geniuses at work
"I didn't know anything about this." You must read Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising". This book will blow your mind. It's important to remember, this book was written almost 40 years ago. Fictional story, but damn near technically correct.
You should do the f14 the old top gun plane. Its of the most beautiful planes ever made. It was the navys fighter response to the f15 .
The eagle was put into service two years after the tomcat...
Except the Tomcat came out about 2 years before the Eagle...
The F14 was the result of SecDef MacNamara trying to force the F111 on the Navy. Grumman built the F14 around the AIM54 missle system being developed for the F111. Due to highly restrictive ROEs the AIM 54 was almost never used.
Little late but Phantom will always absolutely be my favourite aircraft as well! The design and the roles it played. And in my opinion, a little bit underrated with many aircraft like the F-14 and F-16 so on so forth, overshadowing it, albeit they do have basically the right to do so with their performance and all.. but if you could maybe react to the F-4 Phantom some time. (I should be writing this in a newer video but oh well).
You are talking about the Mig-31 Interceptor. It was/is a hypersonic interceptor build to take out SR-71. It was very fast but not a superiority fighter.
There were a pretty substantial number of fighters/interceptors between the F-86 and the F4. Like 20 of them.
For the longest time, the F-86 Sabre was the face of Jet Fighters. My father flew the F-86 during the Korean War.
My only big gripe with this, is that they stripped as much weight as possible from the plane to set the records for what it could do... If you ask me it should have been as fully loaded and mission-capable as possible for them to have actually useful data for real combat scenarios.
Instead of fudging it a bit.
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It may have terrified them, but it wasn't specifically mentioned to be not allowed to use in a signed treaty like the F-111 was...
The F-15 Eagle. The UNDEFEATED KING OF THE SKIES
Most people fail to understand that we went from "first flight" to the moon in less than one hundred years. I call such "The Industrial Revolution 2.0"
The Harrier was as dominant over the Falklands, there is more to a plane than it's design and components. The amount of training for a NATO pilot was incredible before the Soviet Union fell.
During the first gulf war they sent planes up against the US and the eagle slapped everything right out of the sky
Good memory! Yes it was the Foxbat that was found to be fast, and that was about it.
Remember that one time when the US created shell companies to buy titanium from the USSR to build the SR-71?!?! Great story
Here's the thing, the Russians learned from the mistakes of the Foxbat and made the Fulcrum, I forget who it was who told me, but in a dogfight/air-to-air match up, the Fulcrum (MiG-29, not the 35 "Fulcrum-F", although with the advent of the Eagle-EX, it might just be Round 2, let's go) was made to be the answer to the Eagle.
An answer that failed considering the f15 slapped it around like it has everything else.
The f-4 was proof that even a brick can fly with enough thrust
Air to air old school dog fights are almost imposible to have now , with the tecnology. F22 aren even seen on radar before they even fire. So by the time the other planes notice them they already got hit . The f15 had many air to air kills in irak tho.
Oh my God, I love mustard mustard is the greatest. He makes the best videos on TH-cam.
The F-15 eagle, so darn good we had to make an updated version, the F-15EX Eagle II
Hi my name is Karl, 58, from Albuquerque, New Mexico USA. I came across your channel and I watched your reaction to the US Navy taking out half of Iran's navy in 8 hours! I enjoyed his reaction and yours!
I'm curious about the Mead you're making and would love to try it, but I'm in the US and you're in England. Is it possible to send a 6 pack to the US, if so I'd love to purchase a six pack and try it?
The top F-X design was clearly the prototype for the F-14.
Ah, the F-4 Phantom. The U.S.'s proof that you can make a brick fly if you put enough thrust behind it.
If you want a good story you should look into a Luftwaffe pilot name Erik Hartmann. Known as The Blonde Knight of German he flew the Messerschmidt 109 on the eastern front and in less than four years of combat became the leading ace of any air force, with a record that will never come close to being surpassed, by downing 352 Soviet planes.
The F14 had the variable sweptvwing design
This is an aircraft, but the way we got a hold of one was a Russian pilot defected with it.
You may like a series called Dogfights if your into aircraft and how they fight
I like the odd look of the f86 and mig 15. Basically a jet engine with wings and a cockpit.
Like the old F-104’s “a seat duct taped to a rocket motor”
You should do a story of Great Britain attempted to secretly cell service, the engine, where the use of the big 15 and Mc 21 which is what caused significant number of lives military pilots of US
Take a look at the F-22 Raptor. One F-22 was able to destroy five F-15’s in training.
Lockheed-Martin: "We have a next gen fighter that we want to make."
Pentagon: "Why? Nothing has ever beaten the F-15."
Lockhood-Martin: "Yes, but what about aliens?"
Pentagon: "..."
Lockheed-Martin: "So anyway, the F-22 is going to have the radar cross-section of a bumblebee..."
i'm a fan of the Fulcrum design (they have one at the National Museum of the USAF in Dayton, OH)...but the biggest difference between American and Russian designs is the technology, and "finesse" -Russian planes are more utilitarian in terms of aesthetics- they're built to "work"- not look beautiful, and it's seems their priority is the "appearance" of superiority...The US and France have both shown that you can have both (the Rafale is a perfect example- very pretty bird...compare the Concorde to the TU-144- they look the same, but the Concorde was far more advanced, and a very beautiful plane)...
In case you havent heard of the Channel yet - I'd recommend BlueJay with his video "The Dumbest Russian Voyage nobody talks about".
While BlueJay's style is more comedic you might enjoy it - he does some really good content :)
A Defector flew one to Japan. .
It was when Lt. Victor Belenko flew his MiG-25 to Hakodate in Japan that we found out it wasn't the big bad fighter everyone thought it was. It had to have big Tumanski after burning jet engines because it was so heavy. It was skinned with stainless steel. It was really just a high speed missile platform.
I laughed when I watched this video.. you have no idea how many of those black and white 35mm slide projector military briefings I sat through when I was in the Air Force. The military briefing staff all sounded exactly the same- just like Navy Captain in the MiG-25 briefing film segment. Onward - I still remember when we were all shown the F15’s (in real life no less) up in Keflavik, Iceland (formerly a joint Navy P-3 Antisubmarine squadron and USAF fighter interceptor squadron playing tag with Russian bombers doing the U.S. East Coast to Cuba run). I think everyone on the flight-line was sporting wood when the first pair landed and taxied nearby. The sound alone of the engines made your internal organs vibrate. It was and still is a creature of beauty. If you get a chance, take a look around online and you can see the newest version that I would imagine are in production now if they sold enough contracts. Take care
Jeez, that F-15 got to 25K 8 seconds faster than the Soviet plane got to 20K, and to 30K only 15 seconds slower than the Soviet plane made it to 25K.
Decepticons, Transform!
Watch the History Channel series "Dogfights", available on TH-cam.
The one about the F-15 is:
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New sub here, second video of yours I've watched. Dude, I dig your style, you don't interrupt nearly as much as many other similar like channels, and when you do make a quick stoppage, it is QUICK. Fantastic methods, again, I truly am liking it. I'm Canadian, my best friend was in the British infantry. He was a Canadian in 2 Para, so of course being a Royal Marine, not exactly a "bossum buddy" haha. He told me about a Marine bar he went up to that had "No Paras" literally in permanent letters on the outside. You probably know the place.
A Soviet defector took one to Japan where we got a good look at it.
How can you not know much about thr F-15? It's only bee opperation for 50 years.