Key/Important takeaways from this lecture - 1) Eddies and turbulence 2) Wave number representation of an eddy: wavenumber, k=2*pi/d, where d is diameter of the eddy 3) Larger eddies --> greater TKE, lower wavenumber 4) The energy cascade and wave number : the need to resolve atleast 80% of the turbulent kinetic energy (TKE) by a good LES 5) Integral length scale @16:58 (L0) - Single eddy with a length scale (size) that is representative of all levels of eddies present the location of interest 6) @18:10 - Mathematical equation for Integral length scale L0. 7) @19:35 - Use of steady state RANS calculation using any of the standard 2-equation models to determine integral length scale over the domain by post-processing. This forms a preliminary step. 8) @21:59 - Determining an accurate grid size based on the computed length scale. Requires nearly 5*5 cells distributed over a square of size L0*L0 9) Towards 23:40 - new parameter f to replicate the down factor of 5 from the integral scale. Shorter and more efficient way to determine the goodness of the grid resolution is to create parameter f=L0/Delta, where Delta is local cell size. So directly compute f in the initial step of TKE to judge grid.
he is the best teacher for this type of stuff. ıve taken a cfd course in my licence years but it didnt come close to this video in terms of explanations.
Thank you! This is an absolutely awesome video explaining complex concepts in simple terms. I realized that in the so-called "implicit" LES, as you explained here, the size of mesh dictates how fine we're able to resolve turbulent eddies. This seems to me, as a beginner to LES, to be always true. I would appreciate it if you clarify "implicit" and "explicit" in terms of LES.
Yes you are correct! Explicit LES is more often used in academic studies where a spectral method is used to resolve all the eddies (down to DNS range) and then the filter is applied explicitly on top of this calculation.
Thank you very much for your nice explanation. When I first learnt LES by myself, I couldn’t understand why we have to consider k, but you made it clear. I would like to watch more videos about LES. Every time I watch your video, I get sth new. This is a very precious and exciting opportunity for me.
Excellent refresher about the concept of LES. Explaining about near-wall effects, and effects of boundary layer inflation and wall mesh sizing on resolving eddies would be even more beneficial. I am in the process of performing a turbomachinery acoustics simulation, and some pointers on those aspects would be mighty helpful.
The content on this channel so damn academic and wonderful. Thank you so much for your efforts and time and its really helpful for students and inspiring too👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
What a fantastic lection! I'm just making my master's graduating work and this video is extremely helpful for me. More than that, your English is so clean, that it is pleasure to listen to you. Thank you from Russia!
Very good introduction about LES. Waiting for more detailed discussions in the future. Better to have more details and applications of sub-grid scale models in the future.
New to LES. Interesting and seems useful and helpful. I am joining a lab where LES is used a lot but now I only have some experience using RANS and honestly speaking not fully understanding the model. I think it would be useful to see this video before going to read some papers about it.
You have great knowledge of CFD. I learn too many things from your channel but bit more curious and want to learn Explicit and Implicit solution scheme which is used in Ansys Fluent. Hope you will make a video on it. Thank you.
Dear Aidan, your channel has by far the greatest chance of becoming the best CFD channel there is. My recommendation is that you should slowly start to include how to implement turbulence models in CFD im terms of coding from simple to relatively complex problems, either here or on your Udemy course. Of course advanced applications should be avoided as it will be very much time consuming on your end, so just enough to give people the main idea. From there you can move forward to heat transfer, combustion, hypersonics etc..however you want. Maybe you can then move to include OpenFOAM or other software. Keep up the great work. Best regards.
Thank you a lot! Your videos are always great and, as a undergraduate in Aerospace Engineering, you make me always want more information! Greetings from Brazil
Awesome video series on LES/turbulence modeling. I learned so much, much more than following along with any textbook or college class- much appreciated! I would love to see future videos on the other sub grid models like dynamic Smagorinsky, one-equation kinetic energy model, etc. and a video that details the governing equations (Filtered Navier Stokes, Favre averaged equations) for explicit and implicit LES would extremely helpful!
Dear Aidan, Really well-explained video. But I have one point to raise here what you have defined as an integral length scale is actually a turbulent length scale. As mentioned in Appendix A of the paper "Index of Resolution Quality for Large Eddy Simulations".
Thank you very much. Your videos' likes are almost 10% of the views. That's how helpful your videos are. I hope you have resources to keep up this work. I would be happy to support you on Patreon and I am sure there are lot more who would be willing to.
That would be great! There is a link to my patreon in the video description. I upload all of the lecture slides, courses and templates that i use onto patreon as a small thanks for supporting the channel
really lucid explanation . can you please upload some content on aeroacoustics as it also does need LES to solve the sound radiated by pressure fluctuation created by those eddies. it will be really helpful
Great video Aiden! Love you vidoes. You are helping our community. Appreciate it. Have been familiar with LES theory from Versteeg. The basics are explained well in there too, particularly, about sub grid models; if anyone is interested. However, you wont find stuff about the integral length scale, the practical aspect. Love how you explain stuffs man. Thanks!
The explanation is my own take (so this video is the reference). For the equations, you could reference: S. Pope, 'Turbulent Flows', Cambridge University Press, 2000.
Hello Aidan, You did an amazing job! Thank you for all of us. Do you plan to make a video on differences between the Reynolds and Favre averaging? Thank you for your response.
Thanks for sharing very informative and intersting video about LES. Can you please share some information about monotonically integrated large eddy simulation(MILES) and how is it better than LES?
Hello Aidan, thank you for the concise explanation about LES. So if a fine proper RANS Simulation is done, a LES Solver with automatic mesh refinement would be very helpful generating a proper mesh for LES. But I'm not sure about the wall treatment in LES, because some RANS-Models use wall function other Models need a resolved boundary layers.
Dont worry, i am going to do a video on this soon. It is more difficult than you might expect because we want to keep the aspect ratio of the cells low, so the boundary layer meshes that we use in RANS arent good enough most of the time unless we use WMLES
@@fluidmechanics101 I will test your suggestion (5 cells across the integral length scale), but I'm afraid that the numbers of cell would increase dramatically. I remember that for a second order method in space, the numerical damping could be "neglected" if the length of a cell is about one order of magnitude smaller than the resolved size. So this would be an even higher restriction. Could you share your resource about the (5 cells across...)? Maybe I misunderstand something.
Thank you very much for your great videos. I am learning a lot from your magnificent channel and I am eagerly waiting for the next videos on LES. Also, I was wondering if you could make a video about functions we deal with in "fvSolution" like PCG, DIC, smoothSolver, symGaussSeidel and so on.
Yes these would make good videos and i might make them soon. You can always check out the book by Saad on iterative solvers for sparse linear systems in the meantime. Its really good for understanding the solvers and how they work 👍
@@fluidmechanics101 Thanks a million for your recommendation, I will surely start to read the book. I can't really wait to watch the video on this subject and also the ret of LES.
Thanks, Aidan for the very insightful talk! As a good estimate for a finite volume scheme, it is mentioned that 5 cells across the integral length scale are likely to resolve 80% of the turbulent kinetic energy. How does this guideline translates into a spectral element scheme in which the higher-order polynomial functions are used to approximate solutions and these grid points are not equidistant?
![[CFD] Large Eddy Simulation (LES) 2: Turbulent Kinetic Energy](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QKDFTCUh7zU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[CFD] Large Eddy Simulation (LES) 2: Turbulent Kinetic Energy](/img/tr.png)
![[CFD] Large Eddy Simulation (LES) 3: Sub-Grid Modelling](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N81Io_yrOQU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[CFD] Eddy Viscosity Models for RANS and LES](/img/n.gif)
That is how one teaches when he knows in and out of the stuff. Best explanation I found till now on internet. Thanks a lot.
Wish all teachers were teaching stuff like this man.
Key/Important takeaways from this lecture -
1) Eddies and turbulence
2) Wave number representation of an eddy: wavenumber, k=2*pi/d, where d is diameter of the eddy
3) Larger eddies --> greater TKE, lower wavenumber
4) The energy cascade and wave number : the need to resolve atleast 80% of the turbulent kinetic energy (TKE) by a good LES
5) Integral length scale @16:58 (L0) - Single eddy with a length scale (size) that is representative of all levels of eddies present the location of interest
6) @18:10 - Mathematical equation for Integral length scale L0.
7) @19:35 - Use of steady state RANS calculation using any of the standard 2-equation models to determine integral length scale over the domain by post-processing. This forms a preliminary step.
8) @21:59 - Determining an accurate grid size based on the computed length scale. Requires nearly 5*5 cells distributed over a square of size L0*L0
9) Towards 23:40 - new parameter f to replicate the down factor of 5 from the integral scale. Shorter and more efficient way to determine the goodness of the grid resolution is to create parameter f=L0/Delta, where Delta is local cell size. So directly compute f in the initial step of TKE to judge grid.
Thank you so much
he is the best teacher for this type of stuff. ıve taken a cfd course in my licence years but it didnt come close to this video in terms of explanations.
I asked you to do a video about LES and you delivered! Best YT channel ever.
Thank you! This is an absolutely awesome video explaining complex concepts in simple terms.
I realized that in the so-called "implicit" LES, as you explained here, the size of mesh dictates how fine we're able to resolve turbulent eddies. This seems to me, as a beginner to LES, to be always true. I would appreciate it if you clarify "implicit" and "explicit" in terms of LES.
Yes you are correct! Explicit LES is more often used in academic studies where a spectral method is used to resolve all the eddies (down to DNS range) and then the filter is applied explicitly on top of this calculation.
Thank you for such a detailed intro of LES! Hope to watch more lectures on carrying out LES in the future~
Never found an excellent explanation for les than this. Really you are genius and deserve the best
Great videos! I just started a research engineer position that's fairly CFD heavy, and your videos are a great refresher!
Would love more videos on LES! Would carry me great through my thesis!
I feel ashamed to watch this genius video without paying for it. You are the Melodysheep of CFD.
Thank you very much for your nice explanation. When I first learnt LES by myself, I couldn’t understand why we have to consider k, but you made it clear. I would like to watch more videos about LES. Every time I watch your video, I get sth new. This is a very precious and exciting opportunity for me.
I know for sure that those who study turbulence appreciate a lot these videos! thanks!
Excellent refresher about the concept of LES. Explaining about near-wall effects, and effects of boundary layer inflation and wall mesh sizing on resolving eddies would be even more beneficial. I am in the process of performing a turbomachinery acoustics simulation, and some pointers on those aspects would be mighty helpful.
Yep these will be coming soon. Im going to do the LES videos in stages as there is a lot to cover!
The content on this channel so damn academic and wonderful. Thank you so much for your efforts and time and its really helpful for students and inspiring too👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Wonderful! I am eagerly waiting for more lectures on LES...
Best explanation I found till now on internet. Thanks a lot for your good work
What a fantastic lection! I'm just making my master's graduating work and this video is extremely helpful for me. More than that, your English is so clean, that it is pleasure to listen to you. Thank you from Russia!
Very good introduction about LES. Waiting for more detailed discussions in the future. Better to have more details and applications of sub-grid scale models in the future.
Best explanation I found till now on internet. Thanks a lot!
Certainly yes for LES, and the explanation top notch. Thank you so much❤
Very nice and clear presentation. It was a pleasure to listen to you. Learned lots just in 20 min. Wished i had this at uni.
no comment, only heart felt appreciation for the presentation! thank you so much.
This is not just good for understanding LES, but also provides a good into to turbulence. Well done!
Amazing job! The clarity of your explanation is great and really helps to understand the topic. Thanks!
Very helpful explanation. Expecting more videos on LES from your channel..thanks for giving basic and practical idea of LES.
Thanks a lot for this neatly done introduction to LES. Looking forward to more aspects of LES.
Thank you, please share more on LES
New to LES. Interesting and seems useful and helpful. I am joining a lab where LES is used a lot but now I only have some experience using RANS and honestly speaking not fully understanding the model. I think it would be useful to see this video before going to read some papers about it.
Perfect explanation of the LES. Thank you! I'm waiting for more.
we want more LES videos. Best explaination ever.
More LES videos pls........
This is a very useful video. thank you.
Yes! More are coming soon 😄
A nicely packed talk, hope more videos may come regarding more intresting topics. I didnt even read RANS ones but the vdo seems well informative
Many thanks for such a professional teaching. Be successful ...
Thank you so much! Please make more videos on LES! I am so grateful!
Really nice to watch! Looking forward for more video on this topic. Thank for sharing!
Thanks a lot for doing the talk on LES. Keep doing good. God bless.
Impressed with such a good and practical explanation! I hope you continue with your videos. They are the best on the internet!
If only i had known it earlier! Kudos on the way you showed the mesh and velocity vector, it cleared the idea so nicely! Please do post more videos❤️
The best explanation, hands down! Thank you.
Thanks very much for such a nice lecture. It was very informational and helpful. Excellent talk on LES!
Very helpful...for a beginner like me it's a boon I found this channel
Very informative and full of LES clues, many thanks
Outstanding introduction to LES
Well done! Looking forward to more LES lectures.
You have great knowledge of CFD. I learn too many things from your channel but bit more curious and want to learn Explicit and Implicit solution scheme which is used in Ansys Fluent. Hope you will make a video on it. Thank you.
Dear Aidan, your channel has by far the greatest chance of becoming the best CFD channel there is. My recommendation is that you should slowly start to include how to implement turbulence models in CFD im terms of coding from simple to relatively complex problems, either here or on your Udemy course. Of course advanced applications should be avoided as it will be very much time consuming on your end, so just enough to give people the main idea. From there you can move forward to heat transfer, combustion, hypersonics etc..however you want. Maybe you can then move to include OpenFOAM or other software. Keep up the great work.
Best regards.
Thanks for the advice! I will see what i can do
great illustrations and explanation.....
Thanks for your very usefull and clear explanations
It's amazing! You did a good job of explaining the basic concept in LES in the easiest way. Thanks!
Simply great again. Thank you very much
That’s a great discussion. Waiting for the next LES video.
really like the style of your lecture
Thank you very much Adam
Thank you a lot! Your videos are always great and, as a undergraduate in Aerospace Engineering, you make me always want more information! Greetings from Brazil
Excellent material. Thank you very much
yes, it is useful and interesting, please don't hesitate to talk about this deeply!!! :)
You exactly post the lecture which I was looking for...thank you...and support your work. 😊
Brilliant work. I wish you good luck.
Awesome video series on LES/turbulence modeling. I learned so much, much more than following along with any textbook or college class- much appreciated! I would love to see future videos on the other sub grid models like dynamic Smagorinsky, one-equation kinetic energy model, etc. and a video that details the governing equations (Filtered Navier Stokes, Favre averaged equations) for explicit and implicit LES would extremely helpful!
This is exactly what I was looking for. Wonderfully explained, fantastic job! Thank you!
Dear Aidan, Really well-explained video. But I have one point to raise here what you have defined as an integral length scale is actually a turbulent length scale. As mentioned in Appendix A of the paper "Index of Resolution Quality for Large Eddy Simulations".
You may be right. I haven't read that paper
Thank you very much. Your videos' likes are almost 10% of the views. That's how helpful your videos are. I hope you have resources to keep up this work. I would be happy to support you on Patreon and I am sure there are lot more who would be willing to.
That would be great! There is a link to my patreon in the video description. I upload all of the lecture slides, courses and templates that i use onto patreon as a small thanks for supporting the channel
Think you for this great video. Now I start understanding the concept of LES
really lucid explanation . can you please upload some content on aeroacoustics as it also does need LES to solve the sound radiated by pressure fluctuation created by those eddies. it will be really helpful
Excellent explanation. Brilliant. Cheers.
Great video! Looking forward to the next episode!
Very effective lecture
If any one of you has performed an IDDES simulation, I'd appreciate the exchange of thoughts and experiences about that topic. :D
best LES explaination
Great video Aiden! Love you vidoes. You are helping our community. Appreciate it. Have been familiar with LES theory from Versteeg. The basics are explained well in there too, particularly, about sub grid models; if anyone is interested. However, you wont find stuff about the integral length scale, the practical aspect. Love how you explain stuffs man. Thanks!
Super useful and very understandable!
Great job!
Perfect explanation!
Thank you, it is really useful and helpful. Pictorial presentation is really awesome. Expecting more videos from you. :-)
thanks ver much. very wonderful course.
Very well explained. Can u please also include the references for these equations and concepts? Thanks
The explanation is my own take (so this video is the reference). For the equations, you could reference:
S. Pope, 'Turbulent Flows', Cambridge University Press, 2000.
@@fluidmechanics101 thanks a million
very informative. Thanks a lot.
Very useful and interesting, thank you so much!
Thank you Dr. Aidan Wimshurst.
Hello Aidan,
You did an amazing job! Thank you for all of us. Do you plan to make a video on differences between the Reynolds and Favre averaging? Thank you for your response.
I think i will do this when we start looking at compressible flow 👍
Great Video thank you very much! I would very appreciate if you make a video of using the LES for turbomachinery.
There are more LES videos on the way!
Brilliantly explained.. thank you so much...
Thanks for sharing very informative and intersting video about LES. Can you please share some information about monotonically integrated large eddy simulation(MILES) and how is it better than LES?
thanks! would love more LES content in the future
Next week! The next video is coming 😄
Thank you very much. Can you do a vid on how the sub-grid scale is handled?
Yep, im planning on doing a few more in this series on LES. Stay tuned!
Amazing videos! I am addicted to your channel. Can you make a talk on hybrid turbulence models like DES, DDES and PANS?
Yep, they are planned for next year ☺️
@@fluidmechanics101 Oh boy! Will be on a lookout for those videos. Thank you.🙏🏼
Hello Aidan,
thank you for the concise explanation about LES.
So if a fine proper RANS Simulation is done, a LES Solver with automatic mesh refinement would be very helpful generating a proper mesh for LES. But I'm not sure about the wall treatment in LES, because some RANS-Models use wall function other Models need a resolved boundary layers.
Dont worry, i am going to do a video on this soon. It is more difficult than you might expect because we want to keep the aspect ratio of the cells low, so the boundary layer meshes that we use in RANS arent good enough most of the time unless we use WMLES
@@fluidmechanics101 I will test your suggestion (5 cells across the integral length scale), but I'm afraid that the numbers of cell would increase dramatically. I remember that for a second order method in space, the numerical damping could be "neglected" if the length of a cell is about one order of magnitude smaller than the resolved size. So this would be an even higher restriction. Could you share your resource about the (5 cells across...)? Maybe I misunderstand something.
The recommendation of 5 is from an old ANSYS presentation. I will see if i can find a link for it
Thank you very much for your great videos. I am learning a lot from your magnificent channel and I am eagerly waiting for the next videos on LES. Also, I was wondering if you could make a video about functions we deal with in "fvSolution" like PCG, DIC, smoothSolver, symGaussSeidel and so on.
Yes these would make good videos and i might make them soon. You can always check out the book by Saad on iterative solvers for sparse linear systems in the meantime. Its really good for understanding the solvers and how they work 👍
@@fluidmechanics101 Thanks a million for your recommendation, I will surely start to read the book. I can't really wait to watch the video on this subject and also the ret of LES.
Wow, the video is fantastic! I learned a lot from the video. Could you make some movies about DES?
I will add DES to my list!
Great session, thanks
Very very useful and benefic!!!
Great explanation!
Good content Dr., 👏👏
Thanks, Aidan for the very insightful talk! As a good estimate for a finite volume scheme, it is mentioned that 5 cells across the integral length scale are likely to resolve 80% of the turbulent kinetic energy. How does this guideline translates into a spectral element scheme in which the higher-order polynomial functions are used to approximate solutions and these grid points are not equidistant?
Very helpful video
thanks
Can you refer any textbook on turbulence?
Yep. 'Turbulent Flows' by S. Pope is a fantastic book for learning the basics of turbulence
absolutely brilliant!
It was very useful. Thanks a lot.
hi
please make several videos about the Very Large Eddy Simulation
Tanks
Very insightful, thank you.
made so much sense !!! thanks a lot