Todd has been spitting the truth lately! Great job and I enjoy you trying to keep your composure 😂 He definitely hit something. Wes is good people. He leases some land from my ex father in law.
One thing we can' agree on is its so impressive that these equipment manufactures can make equipment that can withstand that kind of beating. How anything stays together is beyond me, but it does day after day.
That was water was rough! Just my opinion. I would have not been going that fast. Not blaming him. There is $ on the line. I'm so glad he is ok. Also I realize this can happen to anyone. I believe it was equipment failure. Water is a very powerful force. Just my opinion, but I would have not been going that fast in those conditions. Boats and equipment can only take so much.
I think you're spot on. My only critique of your argument is saying the motor "fell off". If you've seen pics after he got it on the trailer, that motor was ripped off, with the mounting bracket destroyed. That's just semantics, tho - potato, potahto. It's only feasible that a wave caused it if there was something already very compromised with the motor bracket. And all those guys have boats and motors that are less than a year old, so highly unlikely unless he hit something else earlier in the year. So the most likely cause - by a wide margin, IMHO - is that the motor made contact with something below the surface during that run. I'm in waves, including white caps, all the time on the St. John's River, including being airborne without going very fast - still have my motor. But I've hit stumps in Rodman at a fast idle and thought I'd done major damage, with the motor getting lifted almost out of the water. That is much scarier than even heavy waves, I think. Great video!!
You're exactly right!!! People that haven't been on a boat a lot, just don't understand these things!!! Thank you for your honesty- Keep doing your thing with these videos!!!👍
Been on Okeechobee when I shouldn't have with 4' rollers and came a millisecond away from landing my hull on a random pile of rocks because they were not visible with the wave action until the last second. My boat does 40mph tops so I can definitely see at higher speeds how you wouldn't see something sub surface until it is too late. Agree that a bad rogue wave hit isn't going to remove a motor.
Regardless of what the cause of the incident was, I took note that Wes credited the "Leash" for preventing the motor entering the passenger area of the boat. Do you equip your boat with one? Do you have an opinion on them?
I've hit waves so hard the Helix 12 on the bow actually exploded and left circuit boards on the deck and 30 tiny screws holding the front and rear together. The only way a motor would come off if it didn't hit something is if the mounting bolts to transom were so loose that the weight of the motor caused enough leverage to rip the bolts out. Anyone that thinks he just hit waves too hard has not been around outboard motors very mush lol
Love your “tell it like it is” style. That’s how I roll as well. No need to sugarcoat anything. I’m fishing the BFL super tournament at Rayburn in September. Hope it’s not a rough day because I would hate to see my Boaters motor fall off
The only way his motor falls off from a wave is from a previous impact and there was already damage to the clamp bracket and stuff. There should be some significant damage somewhere on the lower part of the motor/lower unit to prove whether he hit something or didn’t.
A dutch roll can decommission an airliner, that little chine hop and spin is sort of the same thing. A race boat is built for that, a bass boat would probably have it's transom destroyed by such an event. Im going with my original stance that he just had some unfortunately timed swells and that second one he hit launched him at the same time it kicked the bow to the right all while he was dropping into it off the previous one. Bass boats aren't designed to cut water at all, so any little thing causing a lateral deviation can spin one at speed. Combine that with a little cavitation event and you have what we saw. But at the same time, he was saved by that same lack of water cutting because the boat didn't flip, it just slewed around. He was hurt more from lack of safety harness than anything else. His engine tether worked hard too, good device.
Not disagreeing with you but years ago during a redfish tournament in corpus i knocked my motor off my boat. Due to the waves and speed i was going the transom bolts ripped through and my motor was hanging by the hydraulic hoses. I didnt hit anything but come to find out the motor mount plate wasnt installed when i purchased the boat complete oversight. Keep up the great content
I agree it can happen. I said in the video it could. However by watching his video of him driving it was obvious that he wasn’t in bad enough waves or doing anything bad that would have caused it. It’s always possible but the amount of people that just said it even when he said he hit something was mind blowing.
I have a 40 year old boat and been on some rought water running 35 to 40 mph and never had a motor break off my boat. He definitely had to hit something, and I would like to see photos of the bottom of his boat.
Todd I saw this happen on mead at middle point first thing in the am. Every boat but 2 turned around. Only time I've ever seen that in lots and lots of trips to the Virgin and muddy.
I grew up in south texas fishing the flats. Then spent 5 years in the coast guard and now on green bay. I have been in every situation you can think of. And have seen everything. With that being said anything ia possible. But a motor can be ripped off by a wave only due to poor condition of the vessel it self. Lund has a bad batch of boats with rotten transoms. But if a boat in in good shape moat likely the only way they can fall off is hitting something
Amen on the washing machine. Here on the shallow tidal Potomac rough is in that "washing machine" vein and a much different driving skill/attention is needed.
Hey Todd, HyperSmooth is GoPro's in-camera image stabilisation technology, designed to deliver "impossibly smooth footage" in shaky shooting scenarios. I have my GO Pro set up as yours is.
Of course Todd its obvious that pressure from the waves that causes the motor break. Also it could be the weight of live scope transducers on the jack plate!😂😂😂
Todd there are people who hate their lives and want to project onto others. Misery loves company!! They have zero lives but to troll on the comment sections on You Tube. Keep up the great videos man !
I think you are 100% correct in this video. When I'm in rough water, I'm just trying to get the best ride I can get. Sometimes it's good just to go fast and get on top of the waves, if they are in a pattern.(Not Conroe or Livingston for sure). And sometimes you just have to slow down and take your time. No big deal, just take what Mother Nature gives you. I watched the video at less a dozen times and I don't think he was driving that fast. I think he just hit something very solid. And I don't think the Boat would have 360 if motor would have stay on. Just my take
Cell phones or GoPro's... it's nearly impossible to capture just how rough a lake is while running. Also, most people greatly exaggerate the size of waves. I understand lake waves and sea waves can be a little different in terms of wavelength, but a lot of offshore (40-60') boats won't run off the gulf coast in 5-6' seas... and you have guys claiming they are running 5-8' waves in lakes, which is insanity and completely impossible. This video really captures a true rough water run... that's nasty stuff right there. Running with the wind must have been brutal.
I’m from the North East and have tournament fished for close to 50 years. I’ve spent 100’s of days on Champlain and on the Great Lakes. I’ve never seen Champlain scary. The Great Lakes I’ve seen things that you wouldn’t believe and broke things. I’ve never seen anyone lose a motor. If you can see over the next wave they are not big. I don’t think he was doing anything wrong.
A single wave MAY not break motor mounts. However, 10,00 (butt loads) of hard choppy waves over time can break, bend, and crack any size metal. Was there a hairline crack on the structure already? Was there a bolt loose? Did the composite (fiberglass) fail? 1700 to 1800 lbs of boat hitting the waves is a lot of impact for any structure to handle. This is especially true when going 40 to 50 mph over 2 to 3 ft waves.
I encountered a Rogue Wave once on Lake Ontario. It looked like a three story building! If you ever encounter one you wouldn’t forget it. He either hit something or there was a serious defect. Definitely Champs bit it off!
I have watched the wreck video. It was not even white capping Either he hit something dock or a tree suspended under the surface that knocked his motor off or it just fell off. He wasn’t going very fast and even if he was it would not have caused his motor to fall off. He most definitely hit a submerged object. But like you said we were not in the boat so I guess what I think is purely speculation. Your right what is the argument 😅😅😅
It was years ago, but if I remember correctly he was running the Miracle Mile section of the Detroit River and torque from boat wakes caused some of the bolts to twist.
I probably drive my boat too fast like a lot of people, but I was just wondering this morning why I don't drive my truck wide open everywhere I go like I do my boat. 🤣
If waves and rough water tear motors off , the saltwater guys are in trouble . They still both through the transom on bass boats right ? Maybe these mos think outboards clamp on like their pappies trolling motor
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 it’s easy for above room temperature IQ people to follow your explanations. Some people just want to argue…. Right or wrong but you’re exactly right on this story. I would even say the video you showed had substantially larger waves than what Wes was in. He hit some submerged object and ramped the boat and the lower unit hit it and broke the motor. Imagine if he didn’t have the leash, that motor would have ended up in the boat with a prop spinning and would have killed him.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I’ve seen people hit some big waves on lake of the ozarks going much faster than your video I’ve seen graphs rip off trolling motors deploy even saw a motor cowling get knocked off but everyone’s motor stayed on and they made it to weigh in. On Truman I’ve seen many motors knocked off everyone of them by a stump. But since we can’t agree on a dock I’m going with drop shot weights… just saying anything is possible #banspinningrods
OK, the prop is pushing the motor, thus the boat forward. Hitting a big wave with very little of the lower end in the water could not cause enough force to rip the motor from the transom. No way!
They need to check for “Bad”bolts, cracks. If half the bolts are all inside the bottom of the boat still, bet they were cracked. They can test them and find out for sure. Covid parts. The failure has nothing to do with the driver, speed or waves. Check the bolts.
Prolly broke bolts on the shitty rough roads up north and what ever happened on the water finished em off. Hell Oklahoma to Alabama took Hallmans front end out 😂
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 Cooper Gallant 37 Minutes into the Behind the Tanks Bassmaster Livestream. This is not an uncommon issue. To be clear I am not saying that happened to Wes, I am Responding to You Saying it is not something that happens. Wes was also interviewed. ....He is Sore.
Damn it Todd you know "Reason" has no place on the internet... LOL Toledo Bend is my home lake and when it's blowing I think I'd rather be on some of those northern lake where I don't have to worry about boat lanes.
Is it possible for a wave to break off a motor? Anything is possible. Faulty installation, bad welds on jack plate or motor mounts. loose mount bolts the list goes on. As the old saying goes "Sh!t Happens. It was an accident. Most important thing is he is alright and like he said the Leesh he had installed is a great safety add on to all boats in the event you hit something hard enough to snap off your motor. But Todd, you know there are idiots out there who have to prove to the world that they are stupid.
A single wave MAY not break motor mounts. However, 10,00 (butt loads) of hard choppy waves over time can break, bend, and crack any size metal. Was there a hairline crack on the structure already? Was there a bolt loose? Did the composite (fiberglass) fail? 1700 to 1800 lbs of boat hitting the waves is a lot of impact for any structure to handle. This is especially true when going 40 to 50 mph over 2 to 3 ft waves.
@@guadalupe_rodriguezhow come we don’t see this happening on speed boats or big offshore center consoled. They weigh four times as much so it should only take a quarter of the beating before their mounts break. What’s more likely to have happen, that several things lined up perfectly and a wave just happened to have caused it, or he hit something floating after the lake flooded. I’m more inclined to believe the driver and those who showed up on the scene.
He did but if you read the comments, there were so many people that didn't believe it. Why might you ask, we have no idea, but apparently on social media they know better and are experts on EVERYTHING>
True story 2024- My boat manufacturer said I must have hit some big waves that resulted in delamination and peeling with a crack in the hull ROFL LOL LOL
Im with you, no way a wave could break your motor off, but if boat gets airborn and lands sideways i can see a motor breaking off like that. Dunno if was from him hitting something to throw his boat sideways but he got tossed hard to the left cause of how boat landed.
That was when the boat went right, thats exactly what happens when the motor broke off. Anytime you lost that rudder the boat has no control and will spin.
Loose mount bolts. Same thing happened to Matt Sphar who was a bassmaster elite angler fishing a bassmaster open on Champlain years back. If your engine mount bolts are loose at all it can definitely break your mount bracket in very rough water. Todd dude, u need to learn how to make a point with less words man! Phew! 😬
People are dumb and as you said normally the loudest, I hate it that this is even a conversation that has to be had. I read comments untill my head hurt, so like 4 comments. I feel like people just wake up and just say I’m gonna be a dumbass today and head over to facebook or wherever and prove it.
Some of the people in the comments section must have never driven a boat faster than a trolling motor will push a boat. When you look at the pictures from his boat the entire mounting bracket for his hydraulic jack plate is snapped into multiple pieces. He would’ve had to hit that wave doing some ungodly speeds to snap that bracket.
I do not think anyone honestly believes the motor randomly came off. The motor mount broke. Maybe he hit something or maybe there was something wrong with the mount…or both! Your examples of speed and conditions appear reasonable.
Having been a co-angler I am at the mercy of the boater on tourney day. There have been many days that I would have loved a boat driver like you! When the waves are that big, you have to slow down a little. Better to get to your spot a little late than to jeopardize lives and equipment. Nice job.
So you’re saying that if a motor falls off from a wave we should never go out in waves again. Well than you should never get on a plane again because one crashed! It’s a 1 in a million chance and maybe it happened.
Wes said himself that he was going high fifties to sixty mph in 2.5ft waves. Did you really just post a video of you going substantially slower in rough water trying to defend wes for driving substantially faster than you feel comfortable driving in rough water? I think when he launched off the wave and went sideways the motor broke when he hit the water sideways at 60mph. With the weight of the boat that would be a tremendous amount of force on the cast aluminum mounts. They won't bend, just break. How could he have hit a dock without any sound of impact what so ever? He said himself he never heard it felt it hit anything, he was just suddenly flying through the air. The dock was found a few hundred yards away after the fact by the guys that rescued his boat. Not even wes knows for sure if he hit something. I would love to see pictures of his hull, and lower unit. I'd imagine there's a reason this pics aren't on social media, no damage! Promote safe driving, you yourself know how to handle waves, you just proved it. You have to slow down. Don't defend reckless behavior. He's lucky to be alive.
You can kinda see something in the water, possibly the platform or whatever they're calling it, right after he gets up, that or prop wash. But it looks kinda big and white.
The thing that shows me he absolutely hit something is when the boat pitches forward again. You can see the foot caught something and pitched the nose of the boat down. Please be sarcastic. People needa reality check.
I think he hit something. And I remember fishing Toledo Bend 55 years ago in a 16' Skeeter Hawk bathtub boat. Put in at Pirates and went uplake to Kites. North wind came up and as you describe, Pacific Ocean type swells. Huge. Somehow my 15 year old self got that boat back to Pirates. And I was as relieved as much as a 15 year old could be. I wouldn't do that today. There was not another boat on the lake.
Todd has been spitting the truth lately! Great job and I enjoy you trying to keep your composure 😂
He definitely hit something. Wes is good people. He leases some land from my ex father in law.
One thing we can' agree on is its so impressive that these equipment manufactures can make equipment that can withstand that kind of beating. How anything stays together is beyond me, but it does day after day.
I'm with you on this, its actually pretty impressive
That was water was rough! Just my opinion. I would have not been going that fast. Not blaming him. There is $ on the line. I'm so glad he is ok. Also I realize this can happen to anyone. I believe it was equipment failure. Water is a very powerful force. Just my opinion, but I would have not been going that fast in those conditions. Boats and equipment can only take so much.
Todd, equipment takes a beating and over time and gets weaker. .....I love your opinions and so enjoy your content. Keep it up!
I think you're spot on. My only critique of your argument is saying the motor "fell off". If you've seen pics after he got it on the trailer, that motor was ripped off, with the mounting bracket destroyed. That's just semantics, tho - potato, potahto. It's only feasible that a wave caused it if there was something already very compromised with the motor bracket. And all those guys have boats and motors that are less than a year old, so highly unlikely unless he hit something else earlier in the year. So the most likely cause - by a wide margin, IMHO - is that the motor made contact with something below the surface during that run. I'm in waves, including white caps, all the time on the St. John's River, including being airborne without going very fast - still have my motor. But I've hit stumps in Rodman at a fast idle and thought I'd done major damage, with the motor getting lifted almost out of the water. That is much scarier than even heavy waves, I think. Great video!!
You're exactly right!!! People that haven't been on a boat a lot, just don't understand these things!!! Thank you for your honesty- Keep doing your thing with these videos!!!👍
Been on Okeechobee when I shouldn't have with 4' rollers and came a millisecond away from landing my hull on a random pile of rocks because they were not visible with the wave action until the last second. My boat does 40mph tops so I can definitely see at higher speeds how you wouldn't see something sub surface until it is too late. Agree that a bad rogue wave hit isn't going to remove a motor.
Regardless of what the cause of the incident was, I took note that Wes credited the "Leash" for preventing the motor entering the passenger area of the boat. Do you equip your boat with one? Do you have an opinion on them?
I've hit waves so hard the Helix 12 on the bow actually exploded and left circuit boards on the deck and 30 tiny screws holding the front and rear together. The only way a motor would come off if it didn't hit something is if the mounting bolts to transom were so loose that the weight of the motor caused enough leverage to rip the bolts out. Anyone that thinks he just hit waves too hard has not been around outboard motors very mush lol
Love your “tell it like it is” style. That’s how I roll as well. No need to sugarcoat anything. I’m fishing the BFL super tournament at Rayburn in September. Hope it’s not a rough day because I would hate to see my Boaters motor fall off
I laughed when you said you won’t be sarcastic. 😀
I tried real hard
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 yes you did.
The only way his motor falls off from a wave is from a previous impact and there was already damage to the clamp bracket and stuff.
There should be some significant damage somewhere on the lower part of the motor/lower unit to prove whether he hit something or didn’t.
A dutch roll can decommission an airliner, that little chine hop and spin is sort of the same thing. A race boat is built for that, a bass boat would probably have it's transom destroyed by such an event. Im going with my original stance that he just had some unfortunately timed swells and that second one he hit launched him at the same time it kicked the bow to the right all while he was dropping into it off the previous one. Bass boats aren't designed to cut water at all, so any little thing causing a lateral deviation can spin one at speed. Combine that with a little cavitation event and you have what we saw. But at the same time, he was saved by that same lack of water cutting because the boat didn't flip, it just slewed around. He was hurt more from lack of safety harness than anything else. His engine tether worked hard too, good device.
Not disagreeing with you but years ago during a redfish tournament in corpus i knocked my motor off my boat. Due to the waves and speed i was going the transom bolts ripped through and my motor was hanging by the hydraulic hoses. I didnt hit anything but come to find out the motor mount plate wasnt installed when i purchased the boat complete oversight. Keep up the great content
I agree it can happen. I said in the video it could. However by watching his video of him driving it was obvious that he wasn’t in bad enough waves or doing anything bad that would have caused it. It’s always possible but the amount of people that just said it even when he said he hit something was mind blowing.
Not only the motor fell off the whole transom broke off there's no way he didn't hit something and it was not a goddamn wave
I have a 40 year old boat and been on some rought water running 35 to 40 mph and never had a motor break off my boat. He definitely had to hit something, and I would like to see photos of the bottom of his boat.
My boat has all kind of stump and rock rash on the bottom and his probably does
Todd I saw this happen on mead at middle point first thing in the am. Every boat but 2 turned around. Only time I've ever seen that in lots and lots of trips to the Virgin and muddy.
I grew up in south texas fishing the flats. Then spent 5 years in the coast guard and now on green bay. I have been in every situation you can think of. And have seen everything. With that being said anything ia possible. But a motor can be ripped off by a wave only due to poor condition of the vessel it self. Lund has a bad batch of boats with rotten transoms. But if a boat in in good shape moat likely the only way they can fall off is hitting something
Amen on the washing machine. Here on the shallow tidal Potomac rough is in that "washing machine" vein and a much different driving skill/attention is needed.
Hey Todd, HyperSmooth is GoPro's in-camera image stabilisation technology, designed to deliver "impossibly smooth footage" in shaky shooting scenarios. I have my GO Pro set up as yours is.
They will tell you that you are wrong even when you are right
Of course Todd its obvious that pressure from the waves that causes the motor break. Also it could be the weight of live scope transducers on the jack plate!😂😂😂
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Excellent video and by the way I know you have been on Amistad many times and I guarantee that lake can get way rough
Todd there are people who hate their lives and want to project onto others. Misery loves company!!
They have zero lives but to troll on the comment sections on You Tube.
Keep up the great videos man !
Well spoken once again Todd!! The reason you GoPro is doing that is because of the stabilization mode. Good driving by the way!!
Very true!
I think you are 100% correct in this video. When I'm in rough water, I'm just trying to get the best ride I can get. Sometimes it's good just to go fast and get on top of the waves, if they are in a pattern.(Not Conroe or Livingston for sure). And sometimes you just have to slow down and take your time. No big deal, just take what Mother Nature gives you. I watched the video at less a dozen times and I don't think he was driving that fast. I think he just hit something very solid. And I don't think the Boat would have 360 if motor would have stay on. Just my take
Your right on with your boat you was showing I've been there Your right great video really enjoy your videos
Todd I reckon my motor should have fell off day 1 at Grand lake Toyota this spring 😂
When the whitecaps get really long and your getting wet from the wind picking up the whitecap water u have no choice but to slow down.
One man’s sarcasm is another man’s truth
Cell phones or GoPro's... it's nearly impossible to capture just how rough a lake is while running. Also, most people greatly exaggerate the size of waves. I understand lake waves and sea waves can be a little different in terms of wavelength, but a lot of offshore (40-60') boats won't run off the gulf coast in 5-6' seas... and you have guys claiming they are running 5-8' waves in lakes, which is insanity and completely impossible.
This video really captures a true rough water run... that's nasty stuff right there. Running with the wind must have been brutal.
I’m from the North East and have tournament fished for close to 50 years. I’ve spent 100’s of days on Champlain and on the Great Lakes. I’ve never seen Champlain scary. The Great Lakes I’ve seen things that you wouldn’t believe and broke things. I’ve never seen anyone lose a motor. If you can see over the next wave they are not big. I don’t think he was doing anything wrong.
good video todd, some people just like to argue, no matter the subject
A single wave MAY not break motor mounts. However, 10,00 (butt loads) of hard choppy waves over time can break, bend, and crack any size metal.
Was there a hairline crack on the structure already? Was there a bolt loose? Did the composite (fiberglass) fail?
1700 to 1800 lbs of boat hitting the waves is a lot of impact for any structure to handle. This is especially true when going 40 to 50 mph over 2 to 3 ft waves.
I agree but from what I heard today is they found the structure and removed it.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 wow, tragic. Crazy stuff out in the water, especially after a storm.
Check out videos from Haulover inlet in Miami Fl. Lots of small boats in super rough water and their engines aren’t following off.
good point, I've seen those videos that place is wild
I encountered a Rogue Wave once on Lake Ontario. It looked like a three story building! If you ever encounter one you wouldn’t forget it. He either hit something or there was a serious defect. Definitely Champs bit it off!
I have watched the wreck video. It was not even white capping Either he hit something dock or a tree suspended under the surface that knocked his motor off or it just fell off. He wasn’t going very fast and even if he was it would not have caused his motor to fall off. He most definitely hit a submerged object. But like you said we were not in the boat so I guess what I think is purely speculation. Your right what is the argument 😅😅😅
Agree.
me too
Floyd Buckets loosened up all his motor bolts
Yes, new motor, old boat, driving stupid, transom of champion broke at Stockton a few years ago. Transom was junk
When was the last time he did a maintenance check? Like tighten all nuts and bolts? That could of been part of it.
Happened to my buddy with a Yamaha
Happened to me with a Yamaha.
Didn't Aaron Martin's break transom bolts on his phenix on the great lakes
It was years ago, but if I remember correctly he was running the Miracle Mile section of the Detroit River and torque from boat wakes caused some of the bolts to twist.
I love when you get worked up about something. 😂😂😂
How’s Hallman doing? I miss the live chit chats.
I probably drive my boat too fast like a lot of people, but I was just wondering this morning why I don't drive my truck wide open everywhere I go like I do my boat. 🤣
We would if we didn’t have to pay a fine😂
Wave not a dock. His own words
I think you actually have that backwards
If waves and rough water tear motors off , the saltwater guys are in trouble . They still both through the transom on bass boats right ? Maybe these mos think outboards clamp on like their pappies trolling motor
Great podcast Todd
That GoPro has a built in gimbal I think, that’s what holds the still shot
Yes so its really hard to see big waves or just an accurate depiction of how rough something is.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 it’s easy for above room temperature IQ people to follow your explanations. Some people just want to argue…. Right or wrong but you’re exactly right on this story. I would even say the video you showed had substantially larger waves than what Wes was in. He hit some submerged object and ramped the boat and the lower unit hit it and broke the motor. Imagine if he didn’t have the leash, that motor would have ended up in the boat with a prop spinning and would have killed him.
I have a Skeeter ZX250 fishing lake of the ozarks sometimes the waves are so rough I can’t believe the motor or the boat stay together
I will say LOZ might be the roughest lake in the country on a weekend in the summer. I will stand behind that statement.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I’ve seen people hit some big waves on lake of the ozarks going much faster than your video I’ve seen graphs rip off trolling motors deploy even saw a motor cowling get knocked off but everyone’s motor stayed on and they made it to weigh in. On Truman I’ve seen many motors knocked off everyone of them by a stump. But since we can’t agree on a dock I’m going with drop shot weights… just saying anything is possible #banspinningrods
Todd was that Toledo In Mid March? I was at Rayburn that day and it was absolutely miserable trying to get out on the lake.
I think it was early April
OK, the prop is pushing the motor, thus the boat forward. Hitting a big wave with very little of the lower end in the water could not cause enough force to rip the motor from the transom. No way!
I agree
Did anyone go back out an scan the area where the accident happened? It could have been one massive rocks.
It's sad you have to explain this, sir. Keep up the good fight.
They need to check for “Bad”bolts, cracks. If half the bolts are all inside the bottom of the boat still, bet they were cracked. They can test them and find out for sure. Covid parts. The failure has nothing to do with the driver, speed or waves. Check the bolts.
Prolly broke bolts on the shitty rough roads up north and what ever happened on the water finished em off. Hell Oklahoma to Alabama took Hallmans front end out 😂
Someone Broke Bolts today on St Lawrence ... I bet Metal Fatigue from Champlain was the biggest factor.
Who was it
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 Cooper Gallant 37 Minutes into the Behind the Tanks Bassmaster Livestream. This is not an uncommon issue. To be clear I am not saying that happened to Wes, I am Responding to You Saying it is not something that happens. Wes was also interviewed. ....He is Sore.
I'm say it doesn't happen often. I know it can but I've only heard it happening a handful of times.
Wes said in the comments on the video that they found the dock and towed it off the main body of water.
They will still argue it was a wave😂
Damn it Todd you know "Reason" has no place on the internet... LOL Toledo Bend is my home lake and when it's blowing I think I'd rather be on some of those northern lake where I don't have to worry about boat lanes.
Is it possible for a wave to break off a motor? Anything is possible. Faulty installation, bad welds on jack plate or motor mounts. loose mount bolts the list goes on. As the old saying goes "Sh!t Happens. It was an accident. Most important thing is he is alright and like he said the Leesh he had installed is a great safety add on to all boats in the event you hit something hard enough to snap off your motor. But Todd, you know there are idiots out there who have to prove to the world that they are stupid.
It’s called self-leveling 😮😂
I don’t think a wave is going to knock that engine off, he hit something heavy and solid
The pics of his boat showed the mounts broke, no way a wave sheared the metal mounts.
A single wave MAY not break motor mounts. However, 10,00 (butt loads) of hard choppy waves over time can break, bend, and crack any size metal.
Was there a hairline crack on the structure already? Was there a bolt loose? Did the composite (fiberglass) fail?
1700 to 1800 lbs of boat hitting the waves is a lot of impact for any structure to handle. This is especially true when going 40 to 50 mph over 2 to 3 ft waves.
@@guadalupe_rodriguez😂😂😂
Didn't Mercury have problems with the mounts breaking on the new Pro XS?
@@guadalupe_rodriguezhow come we don’t see this happening on speed boats or big offshore center consoled. They weigh four times as much so it should only take a quarter of the beating before their mounts break. What’s more likely to have happen, that several things lined up perfectly and a wave just happened to have caused it, or he hit something floating after the lake flooded. I’m more inclined to believe the driver and those who showed up on the scene.
@@rb5087 that's beyond me. But it happens sometimes
Todd like I said yesterday (you can’t fix stupid). Like to see a video where you just say what you want , just leave it fly.
I thought they said that he a dock that was floating just under the water
He did but if you read the comments, there were so many people that didn't believe it. Why might you ask, we have no idea, but apparently on social media they know better and are experts on EVERYTHING>
True story 2024- My boat manufacturer said I must have hit some big waves that resulted in delamination and peeling with a crack in the hull ROFL LOL LOL
Im with you, no way a wave could break your motor off, but if boat gets airborn and lands sideways i can see a motor breaking off like that. Dunno if was from him hitting something to throw his boat sideways but he got tossed hard to the left cause of how boat landed.
That was when the boat went right, thats exactly what happens when the motor broke off. Anytime you lost that rudder the boat has no control and will spin.
Almost every yr someone snaps their bolts on the st lawrence from waves and aaron martins did it also.
It happened today on st Lawrence ... I am guessing it was carried over from Champlain
@@SCVM__ yea these southern dudes have 0 idea how rough it gets up here, they get a 1 foot wave they think it's 4 foot
@@AaronS-ml1bh ....it was Cooper Gallant
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@@SCVM__ I meant the channel owner saying it's not possible to ɓreak a bolt off in the waves, they are clueless
Loose mount bolts. Same thing happened to Matt Sphar who was a bassmaster elite angler fishing a bassmaster open on Champlain years back. If your engine mount bolts are loose at all it can definitely break your mount bracket in very rough water. Todd dude, u need to learn how to make a point with less words man! Phew! 😬
People are dumb and as you said normally the loudest, I hate it that this is even a conversation that has to be had. I read comments untill my head hurt, so like 4 comments. I feel like people just wake up and just say I’m gonna be a dumbass today and head over to facebook or wherever and prove it.
It’s possible I’m sure. It’s not very likely. I’m sure it’s possible tho. 😂
You know it. Seen it happen to Arron on chesapeake
Some of the people in the comments section must have never driven a boat faster than a trolling motor will push a boat. When you look at the pictures from his boat the entire mounting bracket for his hydraulic jack plate is snapped into multiple pieces. He would’ve had to hit that wave doing some ungodly speeds to snap that bracket.
😮😮 EVERYTHING IS BIG IN TEXAS ***CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG ???😊
Todd, sometimes you just have to tell people that they are a moron and go about your day. It is very hard to change a moron’s mind.
Debates can be good, however people arguing with no experience or first hand knowledge is a lost cause
I admire that you are attempting to educate them based on facts and logic
I do not think anyone honestly believes the motor randomly came off. The motor mount broke. Maybe he hit something or maybe there was something wrong with the mount…or both! Your examples of speed and conditions appear reasonable.
Having been a co-angler I am at the mercy of the boater on tourney day. There have been many days that I would have loved a boat driver like you! When the waves are that big, you have to slow down a little. Better to get to your spot a little late than to jeopardize lives and equipment. Nice job.
Oh and btw… I topped ten that event. 🤣🤣🤣 that got me good. Lol!
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Learned years ago, you can't fix stupid 😂
So you’re saying that if a motor falls off from a wave we should never go out in waves again. Well than you should never get on a plane again because one crashed! It’s a 1 in a million chance and maybe it happened.
I agree I'm not saying that, others are implying that
If you drive too fast you'll land on your nuts
Now that does suck!!!! I actually will wear more "athletic" underwear when I know it may be a rough day in my bird. 😁
Bolts don’t like a certain brand of motor?? 😂
Wes said himself that he was going high fifties to sixty mph in 2.5ft waves. Did you really just post a video of you going substantially slower in rough water trying to defend wes for driving substantially faster than you feel comfortable driving in rough water?
I think when he launched off the wave and went sideways the motor broke when he hit the water sideways at 60mph. With the weight of the boat that would be a tremendous amount of force on the cast aluminum mounts. They won't bend, just break. How could he have hit a dock without any sound of impact what so ever? He said himself he never heard it felt it hit anything, he was just suddenly flying through the air. The dock was found a few hundred yards away after the fact by the guys that rescued his boat. Not even wes knows for sure if he hit something. I would love to see pictures of his hull, and lower unit. I'd imagine there's a reason this pics aren't on social media, no damage!
Promote safe driving, you yourself know how to handle waves, you just proved it. You have to slow down. Don't defend reckless behavior. He's lucky to be alive.
There is no way a wave caused this incident.
Actually maybe it was a wave so everyone should stay away from lale of the ozarks.
You almost made it all the way through...😅
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You can kinda see something in the water, possibly the platform or whatever they're calling it, right after he gets up, that or prop wash. But it looks kinda big and white.
Why would people wanna blame a motor manufacturer when it is the transom that holds the motor on,lmao,people just stupid 🙄
because the motor mount broke not the transom.....the motor mount is part of the MOTOR...
Obviously
The thing that shows me he absolutely hit something is when the boat pitches forward again. You can see the foot caught something and pitched the nose of the boat down. Please be sarcastic. People needa reality check.
You’re exactly right. The boat shoots up and then the nose shoots back down after the lower unit hits the submerged dock.
I don't know how your boat survives all the truth bombs you're constantly dropping 😂
I think he hit something. And I remember fishing Toledo Bend 55 years ago in a 16' Skeeter Hawk bathtub boat. Put in at Pirates and went uplake to Kites. North wind came up and as you describe, Pacific Ocean type swells. Huge. Somehow my 15 year old self got that boat back to Pirates. And I was as relieved as much as a 15 year old could be. I wouldn't do that today. There was not another boat on the lake.
Not off but busted loose
Close enough
Im just hear four the comments agin..take know prisoners
After all the stuff Wes has posted and proven he was right I doubt I'll have anyone else say stuff but you never know
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 🤣🤣🤣 sure they wont. Some of these guys would argue with a stump
I think he hit Champ!
LOLOLOL! You crack me up!