Container Discussion
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Dave Canterbury, David Canterbury, The Pathfinder School,Bush Craft ,Survival skills, Historical Lore, Primitive Skills, Archery, Hunting, Trapping, Fishing, Navigation, Knives, Axes, Fire, Water, Shelter, Search and Rescue
Plus that stainless steel bucket could double as a disco light! Multi-function at it's best. I enjoyed this conversation Dave. Thanks again.
I just unwrapped my new pathfinder bottle and cup set. I also got the new bottle stove with it. It is a great system and can hardly wait to use it. Also ordered the pocket hunting system and some fix n'wax. I can't believe how fast I got it. Ordered wed night and got it in Cali waiting for me after work. Thank you for the quality products, videos, and general knowledge you share daily. You've been a great inspiration for me while I'm out in the back country.
I've been using a heavy duty canvas collapsible bucket for years. Bought it at a flea market about 30 years ago. Has a big "U.S." printed on the side so must have been military. Holds about 3 gal. and save me a lot of trips to the creek. Great for packing and use around the camp. After filling it up, the outside gets and stays wet but doesn't seem to lose much water overnight.
Good discussion I also think the msr pots are very versital as well and found recently the 1.6l will allow the 775 ml to nest in side of it for a very compact 2 piece redundant cook set.You can use the lids as 2 frying pans aswell and found a easy way to make a hanging bail modification from coat hanger to hang it over a fire.
One thing I like with the SS bucket you have is man that thing shines I could see sending I flash of light off that thing a long way for signaling . Great video sir
When you were discussing the plastic garbage can that you put in your ALICE I was looking for a stainless one. Found these feed buckets that are flat on one side thought it fit the bill.
Great stuff sir. Thanks so much. I'm learning a lot.
I carry an unusual container when I pack heavy, a wok. I like it for multiple day trips cause of the shear volume of water you can heat. In cold weather it's nice to wash up after a few days. Packs nice under the pack flap and sits well in a tripod.
Thanks Dave, I love these types of videos about back in the day vs. modern day gear. Keep knockin it out of the park.
Dave, here's how to make a waterskin/waterbag: Knot off one end of an animal's stomach & either glue or tie a tube in the other end (bamboo, drilled wood, etc...). Putting a tapered peg in the hole will work for a stopper. Same idea for a skin, but line it with pitch first (wax or fish glue seems like it would work well, but I'd think the wax would make it stiff). Same idea for a tighly woven basket (think rope/sting woven in a figure-8 pattern). Horn can be used for boiling (small rocks).
Nice video Dave. Really enjoying this "re-boot" of the basics. I use a G.I. Canteen with a stainless steel cup and a Zebra billy pot. I carry a small stainless steel water bottle as well in my pack as a reserve.
I thin Dave is a good guy..very knowledgeable...and a an excellent teacher. Just my two cents. I find all of his videos to be helpful and insightful. He does his homework and when he finds new things, from whatever source he brings them to the community to share. A good man. And worthy of respect.
Plain and simple Dave. You are the man. Absolutely amazing every time you teach. Thank you.
Great talk about containers Dave, thanks. One of my first 'on a budget' containers used for outdoor activities was a 1 pound steel coffee can. I made a bale out of a steel coat hanger poking through holes bored in the top of the can. I still have it and use it today. Keep up the good work!
Reminds me of the story of the Lykovs. Where the family fled persecution and lived 150 miles away from anyone else. During their 40 years in isolation, their cooking pots/kettles rusted out, and this had an detrimental effect on their diet as they could only make birch bark containers.
I'm glad you mentioned about the bushpot as I'm waiting on you stock to be available again!
Nice one
Brian.
Love the period items and discussions! Keep them coming
Hey Dave, have you ever considered a Kelly Kettle? It's a traditional peice of kit used by Irish fishermen to boil water in their boats quickly, efficiently and safely.
Great discussion Dave. I look at containers the same way I look at cutting tools. You can survive with one, but surviving long term is much easier with a variety of both.
Cool I'm doing a speech in English class on bushcraft and I'm citing your channel as one of my sources. Thanks a ton for all of the information.
You're the man, Dave.
I understand you are working with sustainability in mind here Mr Canterbury and appreciate that perspective. With everything old being new again I figure you might want to look into the 21st century waterskin alternative. I've been using these new plastic "Platypus" waterskins, they come with valved screw caps or can be used with tubes like Camelbaks. They're light, clear (useful if you are collective freshwater) and can collapse into next to nothing making them perfect for tracking.
Very timely video, Dave. Today I was shopping for a container today and trying to decide between a Mucket or Zebra pot. Like you, the handle on the Mucket was a detraction for me. Keep up the good work.
Talk about multi-function... that stainless steel milking pail was better than any signaling mirror I have seen!
There's silver solder that's suitable for food grade containers and plumbing. (The solder used to join copper plumbing, for example.) I've always been skeptical about cooking in a container with a soldered joint or seam, thinking the heat might melt the solder. But I guess as long as you keep water in it the temperature will never go above 212 degrees.
Hey Dave, I'm going to send you a haversack I handmade out of buffalo leather. It's heavy duty and bulletproof. I can make more for your students and instructors. Just want to know what you think. I carry one as a shooting bag like your deluth. Will be more than pleased for you to beat it up and see where I can do better.
You can use something like dead grass to make a brush (just cut & fold so it's got all the tips together). Baking soda works (also for a soap, shampoo, toothpaste substitute & a general deoderizer). Sometimes there's moss around (sphagnum seems like it actually "washes" things as well as scrubs them). I've seen people use dirt, as well as gravel & sand. Lye can cut grease, but be careful as strong concentratiions can burn you.
Stanley makes a nice little stainless pot. It comes with some cups that are pretty much worthless but the pot works well. I think it was about 15 bucks.
Hey Dave. Thanks for the video. I particularly like the "historical" slant you go for some times. Amazing that when you're out in the wilds, despite a few definite improvements, you're pretty much living the same lifestyle as those guys were 200 or more years ago.
Dave like you said before and many times whole civilizations have been built around containers and their locations and how those people where able to manufacture and use them. be it gourds material for bundles or vessels made out of various things.
Who would have thought a video on containers would have been so interesting and informative. Great stuff Dave!!
Those are some shiny and blinding pots!!
Really great video,as always,it's nice to learn about the past an to see that society hasn't completely disregarded past ideas.Talkin about containers,I usually like to recycle juice can's an soup or vegetable cans for makeshift kettles or pots.Definately not bulletproof,but works good if you're someone whose trying to enjoy the outdoors on the cheap.Keep up the good videos,very informative an I've learned a great deal,so thank you very much.
the old metal canteens were sealed with lead. surgeon general said lead was ok to seal with.
Great video Dave . . . yep, lots of different pots for different uses , some are handy , but of all the pots I've used over the years , one pot that I haven't found is a stainless percolator coffee pot that hangs over the fire. have you ever come across one?
Hi Dave, another well done very informative video. Surprised to see that you didn't mention the most basic of common man kit, the Billy Can with a coat hanger bail. I enjoy the historical references, very cool to look into the past as it pertains to the present. Gonna have to get down to your school one of these days.
FYI the Zebra can you showed is the 12 cm.
They even make a smaller one at 10 cm, or bigger ones at 14 and 16 cm.
Great video as always Dave. kids love your videos.
he integrated some of that in the journal of the yurt and some other vds, he mainly said to use fine sand and reeds or straw folded on itself and tied with bankline make great scrubbers
Good video. Will you also cover smaller containers for carrying sundries, oil, alcohol, etc?
Texsport of all companies makes a really nice stainless
2qt pot frying pan combo that retails for around $15
I like a cook pan with a lid that has a handle and doubles as a skillet. I use the Coleman Stainless Steel Mess Kit, minus the bowl and cup which I leave at home. I don't like dangling pots over the fire, seen too many of them fall or dump into the fire. I make a keyhole with a SS cooling rack across it to grill on or set the pans on. If I were doing a base camp thing with conveyance access, I would bring a 6qt cast iron dutch oven as well.
Semper Fi
it seems the more you inform ppl the less they like it daves just compairing apples and its your choice which one you want as long as it works for you don't piss about it it worked 100 yrs ago heres the modern that will work for another 100 yrs oh and some history to boot
Dave, you were saying at the end there you had to make room in the pack for the pot with the lid, you don't have to put the pot and lid in your pack, or strap the lid on, you just put the lid in your pack and carry the pot outside.
Hey Gunslinger if you have about $15 bucks to blow you could buy the Stanley stainless Camp cup cookset from Target or Walmart the lid fits Dave's cup perfectly. I too have the Ultimate SS bottle cooking kit...I had the Stanley before I got the Ultimate and noticed it fit just great. Something to consider...
I hope their good, but I'd prefer the cup set just because it fits my pack better. I wish I could afford to fly out and take your classes Dave.
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Thanks for the re-visit and new ideas.
Mike
Republic, if you want to know what make a product more valuable than another, there are better ways to ask. But, I can give you a short answer...
Of the 5 shipments received from the Pathfinder Store, I have yet to be disappointed in quality or performance. Buying over the internet is always a question. With Dave's stuff, you can always count on 1 general thing, the stuff is well tested and you will not be disappointed. It is good stuff. You can count on it. Be well my friend.
Looks like that stainless bucket could also double as a signaling device!
Gourds my family in the country when I was very young had gourds with wine corks to plug the water u carry.
I like that they're not made of aluminium like most military surplus is. Although aluminium is lighter than stainless, it's bad for you in the long run.
Hy Dave big fan. I know it's off topic, but I work at a Dicks Sporting Goods store and I went to work yesterday and saw that we now carry the pocket hunting system.
thank YOU dave!
Another good one Dave. I have enjoyed your 21st century series a lot!!! I've had some of the same ideas and some are brand new to me. Even with the same ideas another take on them has been very good for me. Id love to meet you someday to thank you personally. Keep em coming. John. Btw. When my 11yr old hears your voice he comes to watch with me most of the time.
Great vid Dave, I think the best pot on the market now is the zebra billycan, I have not found any other pot that comes close.
One of these days I gotta come visit your school. Oh well, if it wasn't on the other side of the ocean...
Dave, hope you left slots in the cup-lid for the bottle hanger which I often use with the cup. It would be a shame to gain a lid and loose the hanger.
For me, using Stainless Steel makes that an easy chore. Simply fill it with boiling water, let sit for a minute or two and wipe. If a little extra "oomph" is needed, I carry a small stainless steel wool pad. As stated, sand works great for that too with a pine cone or a blunted stick.
Great video as usual.
i guess for a long term situation, the canteen and pot would be best, becous the tablets will run out, and than you would need a container of sorts to purify your water in.
i like the fore grip on that h&r better than the one on my h&r
Dave , thanks for all the videos. Do you ever use repellants against ticks etc while camping , how about 18th century comparisons, what did they do back then.
I would be interested in a vid demonstrating how to clean cookware in the bush. Are there any natural materials you would suggest for scrubbing/abrasives and or detergent/grease cutting?
I really want to get that path finder set.
As always...great vid Dave! Containers are always a key element...I'm sure our forefathers would marvel at the choices we have today.
hi Dave i think your videos are amazing and really fun to watch. DUAL SURVIVAL GOT BORING AFTER YOU LEFT.
7:10 that thing makes one hell of a reflector, too!
What do you think of the Swedish military cook kit? They were all the rage a couple of years ago but the surplus supply dried up. I have one of the stainless models and I think it's fantastic for this sort of thing.
I like some of those pots.
Thanks for the video Dave =D
Dave, interesting video! I was actually kinda surprised you didn't mention your bottle/cup/stove set or the MSR pot you carry. It seems like either would've been a perfect fit.
I just got the Pathfinder Ultimate Stainless Steel Bottle Cooking Kit a few weeks ago :). It's a really nice setup! Speaking of the Pathfinder water bottle & nesting cup, have you thought about maybe making a lid for the cup, similar to the lid for the canteen cup? It's the only thing missing from a perfect set.
On a hike, I don't think I would try to replace a lost or broken container from scratch with natural materials. It would take too much time and effort, and then might not work. It is something I have experimented with in the back yard. If you know of a quick + easy way to make something comparable to a canteen or cook pot, then please let me know.
Walmart is now carrying a small pot sim to mucket, I was quite surprised, I had it on video but can not find it at moment to get type, it was in outdoor area, I dropped it on floor lol it survived no damage.. it was not the infamous walmart grease pot.
Obviously I'm not dave, but if you look back through his "yurt" videos, he takes his greasy dishes out to the stream. He uses some ashes from the fire to cut the grease (lye) and sand from the bottom of the stream as an abrasive. (If I remember right, what got it greasy was a nice slab of bacon.)
Available soon at for sale at the pathfinder store..
Well explained good info.
Thanks Dave!
Long hunter mentality makes putting a general survival easier to tackle IMHO
i use a korean war era military mt cook set. two 7x4 aluminum pots and an 8 inch stainless skillet that doubles as pot lid
Mr. Canterbury,
When the longhunters went out from there basecamp, would the haversack have been the main means of carrying gear or were there larger packs available they may have used? Anything equivalent to our modern day rucksacks?
Do the older & replica trade pots and corn boilers have side seams? Most modern containers are deep drawn so they're seamless.
Dave, Awesome Video!
Dave didn't the long hunters worry about noise from carrying buckets on the outside ?
Thanks for the cleaning advice folks. I haven't made it to the yurt vids yet, but I will!
Hey Dave great video if you can please make more of these "Discussion Videos".
I just wanted to ask you about bow saws is it ok to get a 18 inch bow saw or should it be bigger. Thanks~Eric
Stainless steel coffee peculator is how I roll.
Haha, very well said mate. I've been looking online at Chinese websites lately, they sell everything, I'm hoping to find something even if it's not a water container, anything that has a lid and is stainless steel could be so useful. Isn't it strange that it's so hard to find a simple container with a wide lid? Even the army ones aren't good. Yours are great, but they really need to release some cheap ones for the military etc.
Great discussion man
Hey Dave anychance you would consider making your own SS cook kit with a skillet and pot/bail combo outside of your already SS bottle and canteen kits?
Good video. Thanks Dave.
Hi Dave, could a guy use the internals of a percolator inside the bush pot? And would you say it could be multipurpose as a strainer, tea, coffee, infusions for medicines?
Thank You
Solder has lead in it, I dont think it's a good idea to use a container thats soldered together regularly. Maybe they have leadless solder nowadays, I dont know. Great info Dave. Thanks.
Great subject. Thanks for posting.
chance of you showing us how to do it in the future?
nice vid dave! but i have a question.. (i live in the netherland or holland as some would say, i'm dutch so sorry if i mess the spelling up) my mom has this container that looks like a mukket, but has folding handles, and a strange sift opening, and can hold a liter of water..... whats that called? i hope you know!
Dave notice you haven't had the Stow Away pot lately. Did you retire it or use it on other kits?
Hey Dave I like your videos and wanted to thank you for them. I also have been thinking about your canteen kit and I thought of a slight change to your cap. If you made it with an O ring seal and then open to a small mouth you could sell more to people who like small mouth canteens and still have the ease of filling a large mouth container. This is just a though I like your stuff but I know some like small mouths to drink from. It would add more diversity to your system.
Great informative vid Dave thank you for your vids brother
Hey Dave, is there any reason why an aluminum pot is not a good option? It seems to conduct heat so well compared to SS, and everything I read says you really don't get much aluminum from cooking or heating water in them therefore they are safe. What am I missing?
Dave,
Does anyone make a pot like the corn boiler or the zebra pot that has an inner liner that would 'telescope up' and then turn 90 degrees to lock into position, thus doubling the volume of the container itself. It could also be collapsed and used in its normal volume?
Thank you for the video, Dave! Can you post links to some of these products?