Unboxing The Worst-Named Seiko I've Ever Seen (NEW "SNXS" Model 2024)
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In this Seiko SRPK87 unboxing video, I take a look at the new Seiko 5 sports SNXS series, to see if it's worth the monumental price increase over the previous generation. I also unbox the original SNXS77, for a direct comparison. Is this 2024 refresh or reissue worth the upgrade? The original watch is most popular in it's black guise, the SNXS79, while this SRPK87K1 has a rinse blue dial, it's also available in 'deep black wash' and 'beige chinos' colors.
These watches were both purchased with my own money.
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I grabbed the champagne dial (under $300 USD at retail, tax included) and am completely thrilled with it.
Nice! I am gonna get that to. Love that champagne dial!
I'm pretty surprised you didn't mention that the new version gains second-hand hacking and hand winding. Those features are a big plus for me, and I'm sure many others.
I have two of the original SNXS watches (one w/ silver dial, one w/anthracite). I think we need to remember that the old Seiko 5s were so cheap, because Seiko lost control over their distribution channels outside Japan and also produced too many of these watches. The old Seiko 5s flooded the grey market and prices plummeted. Same happened with the SKX and SARB, which were JDM models and never meant for the US and European markets. I agree the new version is overpriced, but they come with upgrades from the SNXS. The bracelet is much better than the unusable one on the SNXS, which had folded links and was a huge hair-puller. The movement hacks and hand-winds. The case sits lower on the wrist rather than like a UFO. And 100m water resistance is much better than 30m. That said, I don't like the cream colored lume and chapter ring, and I like the old dial design better overall. This watch is a bit sportier and less dressy than the SNXS. $395 is too much, but I expect it to be discounted 25-35% soon enough. $280-300 is not a terrible price for a watch that is distributed via authorized retailers rather than via Aliexpress or direct to consumer (like most microbrands).
99% of microbrands who are competing with seiko would be nothing without NH3X series movement. From the 5 series i still think the best buy is the SPRE and GMT series. But this one from the video and pictures what I saw looks nice.
Thank you for explaining this.....a concept which I though would have been a simple for these supposed "watch reviewers" on youtube to grasp. Unfortunately we have to put up with reviewers (this channel included) who continue to compare MSRP prices to street prices/discounted prices of older Seiko 5s.
Never forget, the MSRP of the USDM (yes USDM I said) SKXA35 and SKX175 was 475 USD. But nobody paid 475 for an SKX.....more like 150 to 200 back in the day right?
@@arvindkalipersad161I paid $110,US for my SKX back in 2001,got it on sale at the time
Probably Pagani gonna copy this watch and put saphire,solid end links etc and sell them at 70$ price
Doesn’t this have solid end links already?
It's getting ridiculous
If you pay a little attention and watch the video, you will notice that it already has solid end links
this seiko is gonna go down to 200 within 6 months, and unlike the pagani, you will be able to flip this.
But Pagani never become a Seiko
Looking at that next to the Erebus I think it's safe to say that "heritage " isn't really cutting it.
Look at the Erebus next to this I think it's safe to say that a parts bin franken watch lacking identity doesn't cut it either
this watch will cost half the price within 6 months. only a dummy would buy a seiko at retail.
@@Othusdragonreviews yup will be easy to find these for
Erebus is only good bc you guys are fanboying Jody.
@@Chris-de2qc Jody seems like a nice dude but his fanboys are d**kriding so hard. Solid watches but fanboys in his Erebus facebook group will attack at the slightest criticism
Hey Ben, not sure if youll see this but on the off-chance you do:
The old SNXS models have a very standard seiko caseback threading on the case, I bought a seiko caseback on ebay for $5 without a display window and it is much thinner than the stock one the SNXS comes on. The watch sits far closer to your wrist once you swap them, might not be a bad idea for you to try.
If you look at the actual MSRPs for the previous generations of 5s they were never meant to be so cheap. Most of them entered into markets that they weren't designed to be sold within and that's why they ended up costing so little. This isn't Seiko "cranking up the price" this is Seiko releasing their watches within their proper MSRPs (The MSRP for the skx was originally 300+)
Actually one of my SKX007 came from Japan with its original Seiko 5 stickers, and its msrp in yens for the time it was sold was around $450. Remember a while ago the SKX could be bought for under $150
"Proper MSRP"? 🤷🏻♂️
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Whatever the argument about what Seiko prices should have been and why at their current MSRPs the microbrands are offering much better watches for similar money. Seiko's minor improvements aren't keeping pace with the curremt market.
@@michaelredding6219 Microbrands always offered much better value than known brands. It's been like that since the 1940's. Look at vintage watches, you'll find very good watches from obscure brands, good specs, good movements, some original but most copied designs, why do you think people bought them back then ?
@@michaelredding6219 @In_The_Loupe I'm not saying microbrands aren't offering "better watches." My point is that watch nerds on youtube tend to operate with a surprising lack of business literacy. These claims of "WhAt Is sEiKo ThInKiNg?!" --Seiko isn't making watches for watch dweebs, they're making watches for Macy's shoppers. They're making men's jewelry. That's something you have to understand if you're going to contextualize why these businesses make the decisions they make
Case in point, the big brands use mineral rather than sapphire at this price point because mineral allows a better view of the dial, which is more alluring for selling men's jewelry. If youtubers understood that then there wouldn't be this persistent shock of "Why dOn'T ThEy uSe SaPpHire?!"
Seiko makes more money catering to mainstream consumers than a small cluster of obsessive people on youtube.
Microbrands are not in the same market as Seiko/Citizen/Orient. These big brands aren't competing with microbrands, because they don't have to. They make more money in name stores than all the microbrand profits combined. Your average person doesn't look at watch reviews, they see a nice looking watch in some manner of store and buy it.
I absolutely love the look of that watch!!!!
No one would buy a Seiko at retail. I could get this watch in my city for under US$ 250......way more reasonable and justified
Yep--I grabbed mine at an AD for $280 without even negotiating.
Buying stuff in the us is a bit different then in Europe. Here if you asked about a better price they point behind you. To the door. So yeah we over here pay higher prices.
yes, I bought it at $230, no lying
@@douglaswong3418 I don't know how you feel about yours, but I've been absolutely in love with mine (champagne dial). At under $300, it's shockingly great. The "5" on the dial is the only thing that tells you this isn't a luxury watch.
@@douglaswong3418 nice score
Thanks for posting this comparison. Exactly what I wanted to see. 👍😀
Hi,
Great review!
Maybe one thought for the thickness. I also had firstly issues with that for this kind of watches (small, classic seiko 5) ... but it ventilated (i felt this way at least) better and I got used to it. But I heard that some people had changed the display back to a full metal one, that made the watch slimmer... ask a specialist, whether it can be done for this one too.
that dial is amazing it should have been paired with a blue chapter ring though ,in fact it should be in a sports style case
Have you tried this bracelet with solid end links to fit in the old seiko 5 ?
I couldn’t help myself and just picked one of these up today for around (400EUR). Is it a bit overpriced? Maybe, but it looks absolutely amazing!
The biggest improvement is probably the bracelet and slimmer case back. I give the old model the aesthetic win, though I do get the modern version's appeal. It's the old one amplified. The old one is understated, so if that's your taste, it wins.
Hey Ben, I really wanna get this watch but I am worried about the fact that the glass is not sapphire. Do you think I should still go ahead and get it?
Why couldn’t they just call it the “Seiko 5 classic” reissue or something? I too got rid of my snxs79 because I hated that case sticking up as well
In Australia, it’s $625. I’ll be waiting.
Under $300 in indonesia
It is around $250 after discount in HK
It seems Australia is paying way more.
I have the older version of SNSX73 that has full caseback and it's only 10.5mm thick. And fits great
May I ask, where did you get the new caseback?
@@dukirps The earlier versions of the watch don't have an exhibition case back. Putting one of these on is a must-do upgrade on the current SNXSs. Shaves a mm or so.
@@timquerengesser1561 thanks
I did the same. With a solid caseback it cut like 2mm
You nailed it with the " hover" and "UFO" look. I agree that the erebus has better specs and better looking, but its still an Erebus, a youtuber 3 year old watch versus a Seiko that has been around for a century. Can't beat that!
I bought the original SNXS last year Ben for a really good price. First thing is I swapped out that crap bracelet for one off AliExpress. Made a HUGE to comfort & wear in general. I wouldn’t buy this new version & besides I’ve ordered the new Erebus Ascent!🥰😎👍🏼
Is the dial inside the new model 28.5mm? Can see it turn into a good watch for modifying when the price drops down significantly, if the answer is yes
The dial is 30mm, too bad.
Not overly keen on these new ones ok the movement has more features but it's still basically an upgraded 7s26 the originals have such a classic look and the sunburst effect dials just look lovely! I picked up the old blue dial model yesterday, since these are the replacements I imagine it won't be to long til the supply's of the originals dry up, so if you want one of the older models now's the time to buy!
Ben, I can’t wait for the full review and comparisons to the original SNXS.
I am all for improvements to a watch but at what price will it be worth it? That’s the question.
230-250$ seems a good value for the watch (which will happen in a few months). and unlike microbrands, this wont get decimated in resale value.
I have this reissue, and it’s completely monopolized my wrist time over watches costing 10x the price (Swiss). It’s a brilliant all rounder and wears infinitely better than that old hair-puller SNXS UFO cased monstrosity.
The old model looks so much better and higher quality
Great content.
I really wish people would stop comparing these watches to a rolex
Well, it looks better in your video than it does in the press photos/renderings. It's fine, i guess. It looks a little more casual than the old snxs. That night make more sense given todays market. Maybe as they put out more variants there will be one for me if i can catch a deal. As is, I'm happy with ny old snsx abs my SNKs.
Nothing more to say Seiko is the name for itself,tradition,history,quality.
Erebus means Hades, great research.😊
These I’m sure will go on sale. I’m in the boat of I can’t bring myself to buy a San Martin because of what they sell and represent. I really like these new “SNXS” rerelease. It’s got a much better looking and wearing case and they’ve just evolved it with keeping the original look. Yes the dial is a little boring and I hate fotina but hopefully future releases will fix that.
Respect Seiko . It is a beautiful watch
Oof, I'd rather get the Addiesdive AD2030 that is like 10x cheaper or just give Jody some love and get the Erebus, absolutely stunning pieces.
some love? you mean money
The Ascent seems like a nice watch, why not? 🤷🏻♂️
Imo, the problem with the new 'snxs' is the chapter ring, should've been the same color as the dial
I've got the SNXS77, changed crystal for double domed sapphire with AR, makes that dial really pop, and a much nicer bracelet for £25 still nothing like half the price of the new version. I wouldn't swap for the new one. The stylised 5 and the fussy chapter ring really spoil it. The Ascent is a much better deal , the 9015 movement is a big jump in quality from the 4R36
I like this release, I would buy the black one in 6 months when they're $250
The SNXS is my favorite Seiko.
The misaligned chapter ring is noticeable right away. They really should just print it on the dial to avoid that.
Drilled lugs! Surely worth an extra £200. ❤️
I really like this new one. The blue and the off white looks classy, of course this is only my personal opinion. That said Seiko 5s can no longer be classed as affordable.
I want to see Arabic numerals 1-12 with out the chapter ring. A MAC V SOG reissue if you will or the SNK381. That would push me to spending my money for sure
The new SNXS sits way better on the wrist but it's definitely not as elegant as the old one. The flat looking dial, the chapter ring and the hands cheapens the overall look... make it look like a toy watch. Hopefully they will release more dressed down versions but even then you still have to address the elephant in the room... the price. Seiko again cheaply altering old designs for the worse and trying to sell them for a lot more money as improved re-releases. I would have preferred they used the old SNXS sunburst dial and handset in the SRPJ81 case.
Love it !
Mine arrived a few days ago and I absolutely love it! My new favourite watch!
Should have ordered champagne dial version
Will Look Like a Million Bucks in a 70$ Leather Strap(maybe a Navy Blue one)
The one thing I prefer over the new one is the 5 in the shield logo - I despise the new logo so much I refuse to own any Seiko with it
This watch is 510 dollars including taxes in my country. It doesn't even have sapphire glass... I was seriously planning to buy it, but I gave up and bought sapphire crystal glass ceramic bezel waffle dial king turtle for 450 dollars...
I like the original snxs much better. The fact that it doesn't have a second hand stop or manual winding is not a problem for me.
Even at the same price, I'll stick with the previous version.
FINALLY SOLID ENDLINKS!!
Hey Ben! Miss ya buddy 👋
For the price of these they should have sapphire not softlex
I’m hearing ya. Having said that, I’ve scratched mineral and chipped sapphire but I’ve never put a mark on Hardlex. But I’m the sort of paranoid fool who puts his arm behind myself when ever I’m near anything that can damage a watch 😂😂😂
harlex is pretty good tho.
that price without sapphire crystal??
id go for citizen eco drive instead
Yeahh... I'll just fish the NH35 out of an Ali Express watch and put that in my old SNK when it comes to it, thank you very much.
nothing wrong with that, but this watch has plenty of other stuff and is definitely going down in price.
We will all still buy it though 👍
I think it's a very good looking watch. The mineral crystal may even be okay if you pay a good bit under $300 for it. Personally I would not consider this watch for purchase, despite how good it looks to me. When I'm browsing watches online & I find something that looks appealing, the crystal is the 1st spec I'll look at, and if it's not sapphire I lose interest. The whole process of being attracted to a watch and then realizing that it's dead to me may only take seconds. 🤷
I do think it's an overall improvement over the SNXS. It's also more sporty than dressy but still a decent GADA. But it's nowhere near the value it should be. This should not cost more than say $200. I'm sure eventually you'll be able to find it at those prices but Seiko is definitely being more and more ambitious with pricing.
I think what this video has truly done, is sold more Erebus Ascent's.
It's more like Seiko is sticking more with MSRP. We were spoiled with grey market pricing.
Yeah exactly. I was hell bent on getting one of these as soon as they dropped, but then I saw the Erebus and woke up to myself.
A 39mm version would be great. Also, never buy these retail. Wait for discounts. The listed upgrades do not warrant its retail price. It's almost the same price as a Seiko Prospex Speedtimer and a Seiko Prospex Samurai, both of which have much better specifications.
Just purchased the JDM version for $320, US, including tax.
i think seiko is trying to go up the market. Manufacturing higher quality classics. While almost leaving the cheap but high value seiko 5s with folded bracelets. I think casio is filling the space that the og seiko 5s left
Its amazing how many companies think increasing prices automatically makes it more upmarket, CW and Bremont immediately come to mind.
@@philspencelayh5464
you are given
better dial
bracelet
domed crystal
hacking+handwinding
100m WR
the 7s26 seiko 5 is hot garbage, and these will go for around 200-250 within 6 months of release, the SPRG, SZSB, dresskx, 5kx and 5GMT all went down to 250 tops.
video starts at @2:39
Looks twice as good and cost twice as much and considering the current economy in the West and in Japan, I think theyre doing well.
Seiko has been making minor improvements and drastically increasing prices, but as pointed out there is so much microbrand competition that's simply better in every regard for the money. Seiko is killing their value proposition.
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I think Jody's Erebus Ascent is the winner in this review!
Would be better with a blue chapter ring.
why do watch reviewers ignore the obvious fact Seikos ALWAYS go down? I feel I hear the same lethany everytime a new model is released.
Because reviewers get hits following stupid trends... The latest of which is Seiko bashing.
How much do you think seiko spent on R&D, Marketing etc on these watches compared to say a San Martin? Millions I would imagine. Not to mention seiko sell these on to online and high street retailers for a fraction of the eventual retail price.Respectfully Ben £170 retail is bonkers. Personally I love these and will pick one up no qualms when the price drops after the hype dies down.
These watches are also made in Japan as opposed to the originals that where made in China, Thailand
If someone offered me a straight swap of my old snxs.. I would say no. I prefer the older design and logo.
I have both and I have to saw the new one is alot better when you see it in person
I agree, modern Seiko's are way overpriced! Back in the pandemic I picked up several new original MM200's for $500-$700. Pepsi's and others with the 6R15. When I look at modern models and their prices I couldn't imagine spending twice the price for less watch. And the accuracy of the 6R15 is a big sleeper secret.
the seiko snacks
The only thing I would do is put the old dial in the new watch, but that requires unlimited funds and no common sense!😁
The old sunburst dials will come for sure. This is just the beginning!
I wish I could have one but I'm poor and can't have one but I'm still going to get a plastic watch 😞
Original is still better looking. The outer chapter ring of light color isn't for me, as well as the red seconds hand. They should've kept it close to the original
Older one is classic.
Please try on some different straps!
I would pay X2 the old one but not X3
wait a few months. it will go down.
This guy just sold me an Erebus 😂😂😂😂😂
That's the goal. TH-cam watch community is a racket
$200 seems reasonable but £340 is a lot for this
Wait wth....ben has another channel???
In 5 years seiko will probaly release a skx reissue for $1000. Tbh, I'll probaly buy an Alpinist and 1 more diver and thats it from seiko for me.😢
Hardlex???? Hahahaha 😅
The Erebus kicks Seiko's ass by a mile and a half!
Get a Kamasu for the price and keep the change
Seiko lost the main thing it had going for them. Their price.
It's very difficult these days to justify buying a new Seiko that isn't discounted on the gray market.
Orient’s been going in the same direction too.
they always go down in price about 50%. the MSRP is always high on release due to excessive demand.
look at the 5kx, you can find it for under 250$ now.
I really dislike it. The cream chapter ring and lume just looks bad to me. Colormatch the chapter ring, use normal Seiko lume, and it’d be solid. The orange seconds hand isn’t my favorite, but if they didn’t have all that strange off-white there… it’d be fine.
I know there are going to be a lot of comments about folks mad about the crystal and the price, and I understand. But I’m more annoyed at the design. This is not the right watch for faux patina. Sometimes it’s OK when the yellow would be a useful contrasting color, but here… it just looks bad.
you can bet they will release a color for everyone.
I thought this was Ben's Watch Club
2:38
without sapphire crystal 400euro seiko are you crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really surprises me how dumb some of the big brands are. Seiko could effectively just make the same watch as Erebus, charge a reasonable premium and they would have a massive hit on their hands. Jody and his team have done an amazing job with the Ascent, but Seiko could charge more due to brand name. All of that would be preferable to the endless procession of Seiko 5 rubbish being pumped out.
I live in New Zealand and it costs $735.00, that’s ridiculous for what you get, I won’t be buying one.
Feaux-tina and orange seconds hand... Gross
you sound exactly like bens watch club
I get the price is a whiff too high for what you are getting. But tell me a big brand which doesn't charge more for the same product specs as a no name brand... and I don't get, why people are praising the original Seiko 5 watches, and trashing the newer ones. They are better in every aspect, especially with the 4R34 movements. The only argument that gets thrown at you every time is the cheaper price of the older ones. But that doesn't make the watch a better proposition in my opinion. In the end, if you look beside the price point, you are getting a better watch overall.
Id rather buy a San Martin than a Seiko at this point. And I have lol.
Seiko, although lacking in quality control sometimes has brand heritage, san Martin does not and wil never have that. Yes the quality of san martin is great but it will always be a brand that makes copies, and BTW they are all uncomfortable to wear, many sharp edges.
The erebus is too dressy for me, beautiful watch but not my style.
I actually think the original looks nicer
Seiko makes exceptional dial but terrible case always. Ive move away from seiko nowaday. Just get the new citizen titanium guys
I am not a fan of the SNXS series for one reason. It could be so much better. The case shape is weird and mixing the polished and brushed surfaces is just hectic, the hour markers are too thick and the color should not be this creamy faux patina. The colors are not matching, blue, cream and orange? It is all over the place.
The brands of China rule this market. San Martin is better and cheaper. Edit: if you have the old Seiko snxs, replace a see trough caseback with a solid caseback. It will reduce the thickness.
$350.00 USD for this? come on Seiko are u serious?
Kein Saphirglas, schlechte Schließe und ein bestenfalls durchschnittliches Zifferblatt. Das kann Citizen mit seiner Tsuyosa besser.