Dunno why you don't directly go to the point : it's called mixed voice. You actually blended your voice with chest and head voice every time you went for the high notes.
Because there's a lot of misconceptions and preconceived ideas that I need to wade through before I can get to the point. I get a lot of emails from struggling singers and one of the things they are hung up on are all these terms like mixed voice. They are confused by these terms. You wouldn't understand until you get hundreds of emails and see the misconceptions these people have about these terms. A lot of people still think "blending chest with head" means to leave your chest voice and go into falsetto, or some "other voice". That is not how I built my voice or train people at all. I have them stay in one voice and take it all the way up and learn to control it. I don't worry about "placing" the note "in the mask" or "forward" or "up" or "soft palate" or any of that. Now are those things HAPPENING? Yes. But they happen as a BYPRODUCT. "mixed voice" to me is just a well developed chest voice that is not stuck in a yelled coordination. "blending chest and head" is not something I think about whatsoever when I'm doing it nor do I approach teaching someone with the idea of "okay now you gotta start blending your chest with your head!" I just listen to see if the vowel is functioning properly or not and fix that and then you get the "mixed resonance" automatically. it happens as a byproduct of the chest voice functioning correctly through proper vowel coordinating.
@@philmoufarrege thank you for breaking that down. My voice teacher literally said the same thing. The terms is what makes things confusing. Ive only just started singing. 2 lessons in the past 2 weeks, and my voice teacher literally has the same opinion as you. its ONE voice, not separate she says. And I must say, you know what you're doing. great lesson brudda, thank you!
sounds like you've got a good teacher Michael, good on you. I checked out your showreel too I loved it. I used to do a lot of dance similar to what you're doing, influenced a lot by MJ and James Brown.
thanks! it has been a crazy road with my dancing, but I'm happy to be making a career out of it. I should probably post more videos of myself dancing/performing LOL@@philmoufarrege
I’ve been researching mixed voice and the bridge for a very long time. I just wanna say I’ve never really heard anyone with your take on it and it’s a shame. People are always trying to over complicate it with the passagio. Your videos have helped me more then any other persons videos. I’ve always struggled to sing tenor in choir and this is stuff is golden.
Thanks for commenting Riley. Perhaps you'll consider working with me - I can show you how to master the passagio to the point where you won't even call it a passagio, it'll just feel like a normal part of the voice.
Also I think breathing has a lot to do with that problem, it's necessary to have a good breathing to give you that energy and power to push through the chest voice
Dude ! This is 24 carat gold info .This is such incredibly useful information and such a great reminder to me personally about so many terrible habits I’ve developed over the years of practicing so incorrectly . Thank you so much for this great post !!!!
The point of this video is to clear up the misconception out there that you need to "leave" your chest voice and "find mixed voice". The truth is that mixed voice is just your chest voice working properly in the high range. If you are singing the right way in your higher range in chest voice then you are automatically in "mixed voice".
@@philmoufarrege The mixed voice concept/ misconception maybe makes sense to a novice singer who is hitting the all notes but unkowingly only using half their potental voice, then as they progress they can hear and feel the difference as they slowly dial in the 'rest of their voice'...this is my experience trying to learn it. Thanks
Dude i had the same problems a few years ago then i discovered trasposing songs dude it works just like two or three tones its easy to find transposed song but if don't learn an instrument like i don't know guitar or piano or ukelele or something thats my attempt of helping you greetings from chileee
You need to develop a mix, pulling your chest voice is difficult once you get too high and can be impossible after a certain point. When he was doing some of the scales in the video he was mixing too, but the mix was chest-dominant or balanced, allowing it to sound more full then before when he was singing a head-dominant mix or pure head voice. Baritones really shouldn't fret about their voices, they can get much richer tones than tenors (like me) yet still have more ease than basses in high notes. If you develop a mix (and head voice if you usually sing in falsetto) I assure you you will have so much more ease on higher notes.
Lol I saw this video few months ago and thought this is something I couldn't understand, but recently I started to pull chest with feeling of relief and I could go all the way up, now I watch this vid and for the first time I understand what you are talking about. It's really almost impossible to understand from the video, at least in my case
though in songs, it's still hard to use, when the high note comes in actual singing a song, I usually use strong head voice instead of chest mix. How to get used to it? :D It's like, I can sing it only after I belt a note, separately, before singing a phrase
Rizer, heh's right. You really can't learn this by yourself.Get the lesson do yourself a favor. I do not know this guy. This is the first time I've seen this or any of his videos but I've learnt how to do this myself iwht a teacher. You need a teacher. Its not easy even then for many of us. Do yourself a favor. get the lesson. He does a fair job of explaining the problem and heading towards the resolution of it. But unless you have worked through this, its pretty hard to understand any explanation of it. Either you see someone demonstrating it while explaining with a student or do a lesson yourself.
Have been trying to figure out head voices for few decades. Lesson I learned is you need to keep practicing when you nailed it. Once you lost it, it’s gonna start from zero again.
So encouraging! I was trying to explain this to the choir I sing in ( I'm not saying I'ma pro, btw) but they were all laughing at my powerful on-key full chest voice and saying I'm doing it wrong and that I won't even last. I got so discouraged, I left the choir. Got depressed and felt nobody will ever like my voice. So glad I found you! Not going back to the choir but I'll subscribe to your channel and keep practising at home. When I've saved enough money, I'll pay for coaching lessons with you. Thanks, you're a great tutor.
many people have been indoctrinated to believe that any kind of loud singing is "wrong" and "unhealthy". If it is done correctly there is nothing that gives quicker results.
Your type of voice doesn't really belong in a choir because you are too loud for it. People like you have to learn to quieten their voices in order to blend in. But as I said, you don't need to be there. Go be a soloist or lead a band. they can't do what you can do. If you do want to sing with a choir, you will need to learn how to sing more quietly. I have seen several people like you have to go through this - one a man and two were women. Its actually a little bit psychologically damaging to shut people like you down for the sake of a choir. You need your own thing or join gospel choir. They will often have a place for this sort of loud singing.
@@aacha548 hmm, speaks volumes and explains a whole lot. Puts the whole trajectory of my life in view from a different perspective. Piecing together stuff that have been happening. No one explained it like this. I was just being shut down till I gave it up. The psychological damage was immense. Not sure what the future holds yet. I learned, by taking measurements with a keyboard while singing different songs, that I actually have a wide range, so I've been practicing how to blend both quiet and loud singing with different colours in my voice, each one used deliberately for effect. I have miles to go yet before I get on stage again (if). If not, I'll just enjoy the fact that I improved my technique and I'll teach others what I've learned. Gracias amigo. I really appreciate your taking the time to write out your comment.
A. O'Michael I too was in choir and while I wasn’t being made fun of, I carried the tenor section a lot. And t was quite annoying to me that no one else cared like I did but I just graduated and I want a solo singing career, and maybe be huge one day. But my advice is don’t let these people who are inexperienced and probably jealous of your beautiful voice. Volume control is something I must learn to but choir really isn’t my style anymore and it’s good that you feel free and I hope to hear you sing some songs you sound like you’re very talented, hard working, and driven.
@@aacha548 That is true! I sing in Tenor range. I had sung in german good amature choirs. The professional choir conductors did not like my thin high solistic voice ( my natural voice! and I sang very emotional, in perfect tune, and powerful ). So I could not harmonise with the groups. After that I led a Church Choir and tried teaching them to sing more emotion and dynamic, anyway no chance! One time a professional choir conductor sang with in his choir, what happend was, he sang lyrical and dynamic and sounded solistic, his sounds and style is similar to mine!!!! He was the one who refused me to join singing in his church choir according to my singing style, but he did the same ( His tone sounds like operetta and can not blend with the group! ) O.K. I just want to tell someone!!
I don't have the strain there. My strain begins when I m almost to the top. That problem must be because the vocal cords are not really trained. The more u sing, the better it gets. There is no instant result.
If your strain begins when you're high (you didn't specifiy what note range so I'll assume it's probably A4 and higher) then that can be the cause of a few different things - in that case you need to train 4 different coordinations and strengthen them. To find out more about that sign up for my email list on philmoufarrege.com
THIS! is the same answer that I have been looking for when I asked this question earlier today at choir practice. Thank you some much for having the answer. Robin G.
Thanks for the videos! I've been taking lessons for a bit over half a year now and I'm still struggling with G4, which is probably expected. My teacher is also female and I'm male and it's sometimes a bit difficult for her to understand the male voice and give directions (she says so herself). I've watched a few of your videos and immediately got a lot of useful hints. I also like that you explain your terminology, it makes things very clear to understand and the different terms really are a major factor for confusion when you look up information on the internet. I hope I can unlock my voice soon! 💪
Trying to wake up the neighbor with my singing. 🤦♂️😂. Thought about putting big speakers outside so they could be mad. Trying to make it really loud as well.
In high school, I could produce lots of volume while singing in falsetto. I had my tonsils out when I was around 18. After that I had almost no volume to my falsetto. Have you ever heard of this happening? Just wondering your thoughts on why that happened and why I can't seem to get back the power behind my falsetto.
Very interesting. I can't say for sure what happened but removing any part of the body can definitely have unforseen consequences on lots of things. The body is very complex. There is also the possibility that it is unrelated to the tonsils but just so happened to coincide around the same time. Or did you have tonsilitis at the time? if so, the illness may have weakened your voice and simply needs to be restrengthened again. I can't say for sure without hearing you. It might be best for you to schedule a Skype lesson with me so I can show you the way forward to rebuild your voice. www.philmoufarrege.com/skype-lessons
👏👏👏👌 you are the best man, everything becomes clearer with your direct demonstrations, terms are not very important, experience is. Now I know clearly that I'm comfortable up to G4
I am currently trying to mix but I end up having a yelling tonal quality to the voice that is very loud (After I go above E4). When I mix I tend to use breath support like I am trying to push alot of air through my vocal chords at once. Is this the correct approach and how do I prevent yelling timbre?
hi, what you are describing is a good first step. to go further you'll need to get more control of the vocal cord compression and larynx - check out this video: th-cam.com/video/JWjbdmHma8s/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugw_YsK4c9OyojHRqb14AaABAg
My note where my voice wants to break is E although if I lower the larynx I can sing higher in full chest. They say that E is typical for lyric baritones (me?) and tenors break higher. Others think that almost everyone breaks at E, even tenors. And then there is the mystery of how tenors seem to sing past that E without sounding even like they use a mix. So I can do that too but I guess that's what they call "belting" and it's perhaps very close to forcing;. All pretty confusing stuff for anyone in the zone around E where you have also the Heldentenor and Barytone Martin.
Listen to Tom Jones he's a bari and he goes right up to those high B's. there is no magical thing that tenors have that baris don't have. The vocal break can be in different areas based on how developed your voice is. Some people even have it on C4, does that mean they're stuck like that forever? No it means they have an underdeveloped voice. The stronger your voice the higher the break moves up and then you learn to coordinate the voice so the vocal break disappears. The break is just wherever your weakness is at it's not so much of a "thing" as it is more wherever your vocal cords want to let go too much and lose connection. it can occur due to many different issues in the technique, it can be simply because you lack the strength development in the voice, or it can occur due to improper coordination of the vowel/breath/volume or it can even be because of improper falsetto development. As you learn the proper technique you can learn how to eliminate the break and take the same voice all the way up, even if you are a baritone. When I first started I couldn't get past F4, now I can go up to the 5th octave. Best advice I can give is forget about the baritone/tenor nonsense it won't help you. What you need is to learn the proper technique from someone that can teach it properly you won't figure it out from youtube videos, you need someone that can give you corrections, for instance you mentioned stuff about how you can lower your larynx and you're not sure if you're forcing your voice, well that's impossible to help you with that unless I hear you doing it. If I heard you, within a few seconds I could tell you if it was on the right track or not.
@@philmoufarrege Thank you so much for the feedback dear Phil. You certainly seem to have gathered a very deep insight and knowledge.I am actually more a trumpet player and is this just a more of a theoretical discovery tour for me.(about trumpet there is also a lot of discussion and mystery about high notes ) I am 60 and very clumsy and shy before public, so as real singer, I am very modest in my ambitions :-)
Initially I used to sing very smoothly with my head voice only but now over the years with the age, I am singing more with the chest voice than the head as it has gone very very weak. But my chest voice has a very limited range, so I have to use my head voice, but the "transition" splits my voice in very tangent notes and so I am very uncomfortable singing in any voice now. How to bring the same strength in my head voice which I used to sing in very well. please guide ...
train your throat to stay open, as in yawning, then don't use too much air when singing high notes. Just support well the breathing with the diaphragm and the abdomen muscles and the magic will hapen
I don't understand something your response will be greatly appreciated. when I sing in falsetto and try to change notes a bit it breaks but I'm still in falsetto. It becomes very airy and low but it's still falsetto. I don't understand what the difference between these two is and how I can avoid breaking my falsetto. Is this puberty?
I consider myself bass baritone but I sing full up until about B4, I think your advice was a perfect explanation. You really do have to yell into it a bit. My issue is my dark colour
Ivan Rokov what worked for me was to utilize my nose ever so slightly after practicing lip trills. Pretend as though you want the air to flow through the top of your mouth but not quite through the nose. Second tip would be to maintain a neutral larynx or even push it down slightly. Once you get comfortable doing those you sort of have to yell gently into it and once you feel it connect you have to keep practicing that until your body remembers.
@@Poseidon.95 your welcome!, let me know how it goes, also as a lower tone voice, don't be afraid to utilize vocal mix to fake a belt. I'll tell you right now, nobody can tell the different because we already have large vocal profiles. If you control your volume in mid voice and save mix/falsetto for crescendos, there's a good chance nobody will know where your chestvoice ends and headvoice begins. My friends laugh because I can utterly drown out a belting soprano at C5 in falsetto haha. I'm jealous that you can reach bb1 though, that's amazing, you would be invaluable in choir.
@@Poseidon.95 A voice that's heavy and low is an asset so I think you're blessed if anything. If your range is already A1 to C5 that's actually impressive, certainly professional. I actually think you may have already reached your technical bridge. I would say this video might not apply to you since you should probably be using vocal mix if you want to be able to hit a higher note with the intensity of a belt. In my experience, people cannot tell the difference. I can reach C2 if I'm sick or just waking up, but my most reliable low note is an E2, I can sing up to G5 so our range is about the same, my bridge was about F4#, now it's about A4 after training but I can hit a dry B4. Do you think your voice leans dramatic or lyric?
@@Poseidon.95 Everyone's different, I would say breathyness isn't a requirement for falsetto. I know your pain though that's the only reason I went out of my way because G4-B4 are all the "money notes" in modern music haha. I think the money note for your voice type is actually B1 and E4, if you re-key the songs to where those are the lows and the highs, you'd be surprised to find that a lot of that "good sound" is relative to voice types. I can tell you now, my B4 sounds nothing like a tenors would, it's shouty and intimitdating. If your mix sounds like falsetto than your modal singing voice might be overly chesty. If you brighten the sound of your chest voice and use your nose more, it *should* sound more connected and cohesive when you transition to headvoice. After hearing all this I think vocal mixing is what your should do, full voice for men is usually capped about 2 - 2.5 octaves. Falsetto & mix in men greatly extends our range. I think it should be known that you have good range already it's just about getting the right vocal mix to make your g4 sound convincing lol
Thank you so so much, there's so much great information and tips, i know the vows are like, a prior thing to do, but i didn't got it right untill i saw the video, and since i've been learning how to reach higher notes with my chest voice, this is really being helpfull i'll practice with these new skills, thank you once again!
Hi Phil. I learned how to mix but I have a problem. I can't connect mixed with head voice. I can connect chest and makes it thinner, but I can't let it go into head voice. I don't know if u understand what I say
It makes no sense to say use your chest voice through your bridge as my chest voice physically ends at E4 so there is no mixed or chest voice in the bridge, you’re just making your falsetto/head voice SOUND like chest voice by using less air and adding compression or something(?). For those who say you mix, it’s impossible to use both chest voice and head voice at the same time unless you’re the alien in fifth element
It makes plenty of sense and I have the results to prove it. If your chest voice ends at E4 it simply means you have not had the proper training and information and guidance to develop it further. I am not making my falsetto "sound like chest" on those higher notes, I am singing in chest voice (the same voice below the E4 and taking it above) you are not hearing accurately what I am doing. If you want to learn, ask questions and seek guidance because what you are doing is arguing from a point of ignorance.
This is actually really helpful, I'll start doing higher notes this way as soon as my throat stops hurting and gets better. I have a question, by the way. I've been trying to sing more in a breathy kind of way because I don't feel pressure or pain in my throat. But lately, I feel like I started squeezing my throat without realizing. Do you have any tips on how to sing more breathy, maybe?
This is THE best video instruction on this topic that I have ever heard. Some of these videos have it ALL wrong. When guys like Steve Perry, Tom Chaplin, and some others sing those big high notes, they are in fact in their chest voice. Great job!
That's the very first preliminary step. I usually have people just learn how to comfortably belt up to their first bridge which would be about the F4. Yes it sounds like shouting, sounds a bit ugly. But it's a required step, without this you cannot move forward to the next steps. This phase strengthens the voice and then once you can do that, then there are other steps to refine it, coordinate it and turn it into something that is balanced and flexible and not shouty. I have 4 main modules or steps that I take singers through, what you described was what I would call step 1.
@@philmoufarrege Thanks for replying Phil, yes, i think my attempts at belting go up to around F4, with my normal 'yodel point' being B/C. Thats good advice, i can see the sense in building strength and familiarity in that 1st phase, then moving forward as you suggest. Jim
the simplest way to BEGIN is to get used to shouting without hurting yourself. a loud strong voice. get used to singing COMFORTABLY with a big sound. Once you get used to that you will likely need to find a SKILLED singing teacher to help you take it further and refine it.
Or maybe its just the fact that Im a bass. My chest range is D#2 - D#4. Though, I feel like I can hit a F4 (because some times I can get to that for a split second when Im correctly using my diaphragm). I for sure do vowels wrong so maybe I do have hope after-all?
range does not defy your fach, timbre does too. I'm a tenor (I think) and go to an Eb2, going low doesn't mean you're a lower fach same thing with going high, you're probably a baritone or something.
@@interesting1735 One month of exercising my Belting and... you were right. Not only the E4 has become something that I can reach without straining the F4s and F#4s require some warm-up and a bit of strain to pull off. I can even sometimes hit G4s! Though I feel like I'm hurting my voice when I belt F4s so the next thing I'll try to introduce is a better way of accessing my higher chest register without straining, thanks! Any tips?
I will try this tomorrow, this is so informative thanks for this btw from Ph Bro, i some case I use falsetto if i cant hit high notes, and it so dumb sad, TbH Thank U again
expected bullshit like 99% of youtube singing instruction, but I agree. so many people think they're gonna turn their falsetto C5 into a Pavarotti C5. well, then why don't countertenor C5s sound like Pavarotti. they have the most well developed falsetto - doesn't sound full at all, in the sense that full voice is full.
How many of you find it impossible to sing any way other than falsetto? Literally hurts to sing in chest for me and I can't figure out how to fix that. Any tips?
I had one student in the past she had spent her entire life singing in falsetto, had no idea how to use her chest voice. in a year I had her going up to E5 in chest. At first there was a lot of yelling and shouting, but doing it in a way that's safe and non-damaging. then gradually refining from there. It's just as much of strengthening as it is technique. perhaps more so strengthening. reach out to me at philmoufarrege.com if you need help.
That one video, that one fragment where you sing "... in the night" made me go from being limited to F4 to being able to occasionally hit even D#5 in chest voice. Incredible.
So say that as a beginner, my mixed voice thins out completely into head voice at about b flat, is the goal to raise that point at which it thins higher and higher up? Or is it written in stone? And what muscles do i need to work to do that?
yeah you can keep a solid chesty sound all the way up, even into the 5th octave. Basically you have to strengthen the ability to compress the vocal cords while the larynx is lower. If the larynx raises too much the voice will thin out too early and when you get into the high range it will sound too thin and feel unstable. Check out this video for an overview of it th-cam.com/video/JWjbdmHma8s/w-d-xo.html
Hey I know this comment is kinda late..but I can do the same thing comfortably till C5 but I still can't use my mixed voice in a song..I just go into head voice. Any tips to help me fix that?Thanks
Work your voice in segments. meaning, make sure you can sing songs up to F4 ALL THE WAY THROUGH. Once you get very skilled in that area then start singing songs that are a bit higher up, say up to G#4 etc. You will start to find that even though you can "hit" notes up to C5 you will most likely find you have lots of technique issues way below that note, even as low as C4-F4 area. Fixing these issues will be the answer to your problem. If you need more guidance I recommend working with me directly.
there are two definitions of head voice that people use: - sometimes when people are saying head voice they are just talking about a falsetto that is not breathy - sometimes when people are saying head voice they are talking about mixed voice (a fully connected full voice) it's important you understand which definition the teacher is using because some teachers will say things like "you need to connect your chest and head voice together" but really all they're doing is going from chest voice to falsetto. While this is a helpful skill it is not how you actually develop a fully connected mixed voice as I point out in this video. You actually just have to learn how to stay in your chest voice all the way up and learn to eliminate the vocal break while still staying in the same voice.
I have a wide vocal range. My lowest note is an E flat and my highest is a c#5 but I would like to hit higher notes. Also, my voice dries out really fast. Any tips?
Sir I'm trying my best to get to the high pitch.....but whenever I try to sing high note .. my voice cracks ....but whenever I sing a song which has low scale my friends told me that I have good voice ...SO how can I increase my vocal range ....
Do you have to be so loud during the “correct bridge/mixed voice? What if the song you’re singing calls for a lower volume but doesn’t want a falsetto?
you can learn to sing less loud, but there is definitely still a loudness to even lighter singing if you want to stay STABLE in the high range. Also, it is more about tweaking the VOWELS. Different vowels create more loudness/intensity in the voice. Also, the way to learn how to be less loud is achieved not through avoiding loudness by through accepting it and building the strength to be loud. Just like lifting weights, as you get stronger at heavier sounds you can then also back off and do them with less intensity. All in all, don't shy away from being loud, you'll never unlock your voice to its full potential by avoiding it.
Does singing higher without falsetto apply to opera singers? (particullarly in operatic tenors) Because I am still working trying to sing high no falsetto notes in my operatic range as a tenor (came out of baritone) since in the future I may end up singing arias like Nessun Dorma and La donna e mobile plus Mario Lanza songs.
YES absolutely does apply. In opera they will call a connected chest voice above the F4 "headvoice" but it is actually chest voice/full voice not a falsetto sound. The reason it is called head voice is because the vowels need to be adjusted in a way that prevents you "yelling" and instead allows the voice to properly thin out and "rest" on each pitch. But you get there by slowly taking the chest voice higher as it strengthens.
like anything in singing it's not so much WHAT you do it's HOW you do it. It's like saying "is driving your car dangerous?" depends HOW you're driving.
from my understanding, there's no such thing as a note to high or too low to be sung healthily. it just that you can be inclined to do some bad things with your voice when you try to hit that high or that low (like locking your vocal cords while forcing too much air through them). as long as you don't feel stress, tension or pain, you're likely not injuring yourself, the worst that could happen is that you won't hit the note you're aiming for.
I'm a full on bass. I've never come above the f4 in chest voice/mix and i truly don't think i ever can.... i have no problem going down to the c2 tho, so pushing further would mean going over 2,5 octaves in chest voice only.... is that possible?
If you are REALLY a bass then yes it will be a bit different for you than most people I have in mind when I make videos. Having said that the actual TECHNIQUE of what I teach is still just as relevant for you no matter what the voice type, it's just where your voice is going to bridge and mix is going to be different. I recommend booking a skype lesson with me so I can teach you how to apply it specifically for you - these videos are general overviews because thousands of people are watching them.
Hi, I was practicing once and suddely got a higher voice, lets say my normal range is g2-g4 and then it turned into g3-d#5, it felt like chest voice all the way and if I wanted to do a E5 I had to do it in falsetto. In another occassion, I was using falsetto when suddenly my larynx went down and my voice felt much heavier and full, while I was singing a G5. Do you think I was using mix voice? how do you explain these changes in my voice?
@@philmoufarrege Hi, well the thing is, I can't do it when I want. It just happened to me twice. If you want you can check my channel, there's a video a demonstration of my normal voice. thanks
From what I heard on your clips, all that high range you're talking about is actually falsetto. Your approach to your chest voice would need to be completely changed and reworked. You approach your chest voice far too softly so what happens is your voice doesn't engage properly, this video I made is for people like you. You need to stay in a robust strong chest voice. You don't use enough volume, and when you do start to use the right volume that's when you'll run into challenges that you will need proper training to overcome.
@@philmoufarrege Well actually the clips were falsetto, but these aren't the high notes I was talking about. I didn't record it and I can't sing like that again, but the high notes weren't falsetto for sure, it sounded a lot like Pavarotti. It happened while I was practicing lower notes with falsetto, my throat suddenly felt weird and I could sing high, believe me or not, it just happened once.
so you did the example where F4 is the break... my F4 is where i break, but is what you're saying not applied to bass singers? I would like to extend my upper chest but am I asking for too much?
Daniel Gomez anyone could do it. It would be better if you’re a bass because you would be able to sing low and high. It’s just all in the technique and proper breath support
Thx for uploading such a great video! Liked and subbed. It has been haelpful alot! i have a question, in the very last scale you demonstrated, when you hit around the last note which is c5, did you change your stance into falsetto based shape even a little? I want to expand my full chest voice to D5, but if i try to hit those notes without strain, i tend to shift my stance into falsetto like form. I'm not sure if im doing it wrong, or im doing it right but due to my physical limit(shape of vocal cord)i cannot do it. Can you give me any tips on my question?(sry for my poor english)
Hi Kenny, thanks for writing. Yes when you get around the C5 and higher the voice will "blend" and "mix" more with the head or falsetto a bit more. This is really the idea of "bridging into head voice", it's really meant to be done way up here. People are trying to do it way too low in their range where it doesn't work or hold up in songs. What I'm doing is letting my voice taper out and thin more which allows it to become a little headier at the top. I make sure I don't do this until at least an A4, preferably even higher. The best way to help you will be through skype lessons. Head to my website and book a lesson with me or get my singing program. philmoufarrege.com/store
Phil Moufarrege thank you for your thorough answer. I'll really consider getting skype lesson from you if i can. Until then ill study with your videos. Keep up the good work! Thanks Phil!
Phil Moufarrege hmm how about giving tips on releasing strain, using diahragm pressure, and combining both on an actual sining? I think it will be very very very helpful! 🤗🤗
It can potentially make it easier to find the pressure in the body necessary to support the voice, however this pressure needs to be achieved regardless of whether you are fat or not, so getting fat to make that happen is not necessary. Being underweight can make this harder to find. I will say that being healthy and balanced is the best thing for all things in life including singing.
Just a bit of a question, how much can you increase chest voice doing this? With "muse supremacy" as example, i can just about sing the verse comfortably in chest voice, but the high parts it's pretty much an octave higher at times.... I wanna be able to sing the high notes with the grungy sound of my chest voice, it's just so dahm high...
It can be extended up into the 5th octave in a lot of cases. When you get above the high C it starts to thin out considerably but it still can be fused as one voice rather than having to flip and "hiding" the flip. I have an entire system for developing this
It sucks how loud I have to get to hit those high notes with chest voice. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I can't manage to sing high notes in chest voice at a normal volume, whereas with falsetto I can easily sing at a normal volume going as high as I want.
Loud needs to be developed first. If you want to be able to do it with less volume you absolutely MUST develop and MAINTAIN the loud strength in the voice. It's all about STRENGTH. Learn more at my website PHILMOUFARREGE.COM
If you stay in chest trough your whole vocal range you will break or hurt your voice eventually, in order to sing those notes easily and sound powerful with your voice, you need to develop mix voice, power is not push. Power comes from freedom, flexibility, openness. If you have strain in your voice then power will only come through pushing and that is not even good sounding power
a properly developed chest voice IS mixed voice. When the chest voice functions properly it IS mix. They aren't two separate things. And there definitely IS push. Push and strain are TWO DIFFERENT things. Push is adding weight and chestiness to the sound, it's keeping the chest voice engaged. Without this, the voice simply collapses into falsetto. There IS physical effort used, and this is important because louder volumes REQUIRE more physical effort in the body to support, but you don't have to strain to do that.
It definitely IS perfectly good and definitely DOES work for me...but not JUST me...the great thing is I have successfully taught many singers how to do this FROM SCRATCH over and over again. I like to actually SHOW and PROVE with actual results: "mixed voice" here: Firstly, my own voice: th-cam.com/video/YhO7TNp73CE/w-d-xo.html then my students: Quentin Bouvier - www.philmoufarrege.com/blog/singing-transformation-quentin-bouvier Dane Maxwell - www.philmoufarrege.com/blog/singing-transformation-before-and-after-dane-maxwell Jaffer Ridaa - www.philmoufarrege.com/blog/singing-transformation-jaffer-ridaa Doug Zeigenbein - th-cam.com/video/M5wHrRfFslI/w-d-xo.html I put my money where my mouth is and demonstrate the results in both my voice and my students.
It's mostly just psychological. Like being scared to be loud becuase you might make others yell at you or think you're crazy. And the subconscious tension in the body associated with that.
That can definitely be part of this, but I wouldn't say that is "mostly" what is preventing people from being able to expand their vocal range higher. Not only did I spend years figuring this out for myself but I've taught this successfully to many many people, and what I've seen mostly is that even if they are totally comfortable psychologically, they still cannot get their voice to work freely and that is because we are dealing with muscle strength and coordination. Once we get those things working then the voice just responds even without you having to think about it
Yeah, thanks for the answer:) but, i asked, sometimes i need to drink alcohol and i am asking u which of drinks is least harmful😆 im scared not to cut my throat that way 🤣
everybody reacts differently to different foods and drinks, you need to be mindful and sensitive and study the after effects of what each food or drink does to your body. This is something you have to pay attention to yourself and notice.
You are very welcome. To learn more contact me at PHILMOUFARREGE.COM and we can talk about what you're struggling with and how to move toward your goals.
yes you can call it mix or chest voice either way. To me mix is just the chest voice functioning properly. So the way I would teach you this is by training your chest voice and making it function without strain. When the voice is developed and functions properly there is great overlap in the voice and all these terminologies become shades of grey rather than hard on off switches.
Phil Moufarrege btw, I'm having trouble in identifying the sound of the chords. Like for example, a G has been played, I don't really have any idea that its a G until they show me hot its been played. Can you please help me or do you have any video about it that can help me with this kind of problem.
Dunno why you don't directly go to the point : it's called mixed voice. You actually blended your voice with chest and head voice every time you went for the high notes.
Because there's a lot of misconceptions and preconceived ideas that I need to wade through before I can get to the point. I get a lot of emails from struggling singers and one of the things they are hung up on are all these terms like mixed voice. They are confused by these terms. You wouldn't understand until you get hundreds of emails and see the misconceptions these people have about these terms. A lot of people still think "blending chest with head" means to leave your chest voice and go into falsetto, or some "other voice". That is not how I built my voice or train people at all. I have them stay in one voice and take it all the way up and learn to control it. I don't worry about "placing" the note "in the mask" or "forward" or "up" or "soft palate" or any of that. Now are those things HAPPENING? Yes. But they happen as a BYPRODUCT. "mixed voice" to me is just a well developed chest voice that is not stuck in a yelled coordination. "blending chest and head" is not something I think about whatsoever when I'm doing it nor do I approach teaching someone with the idea of "okay now you gotta start blending your chest with your head!" I just listen to see if the vowel is functioning properly or not and fix that and then you get the "mixed resonance" automatically. it happens as a byproduct of the chest voice functioning correctly through proper vowel coordinating.
@@philmoufarrege thank you for breaking that down. My voice teacher literally said the same thing. The terms is what makes things confusing. Ive only just started singing. 2 lessons in the past 2 weeks, and my voice teacher literally has the same opinion as you. its ONE voice, not separate she says. And I must say, you know what you're doing. great lesson brudda, thank you!
sounds like you've got a good teacher Michael, good on you. I checked out your showreel too I loved it. I used to do a lot of dance similar to what you're doing, influenced a lot by MJ and James Brown.
thanks! it has been a crazy road with my dancing, but I'm happy to be making a career out of it. I should probably post more videos of myself dancing/performing LOL@@philmoufarrege
Yeah mixed voice...i kinda like it
i'm trying hard to train but my family members start yelling at me
Same here bro
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@@ivansaesee I'm 17 and I don't have a car my dad has, but he won't allow me
@@davidpearson6346 lol
I’ve been researching mixed voice and the bridge for a very long time. I just wanna say I’ve never really heard anyone with your take on it and it’s a shame. People are always trying to over complicate it with the passagio. Your videos have helped me more then any other persons videos. I’ve always struggled to sing tenor in choir and this is stuff is golden.
Thanks for commenting Riley. Perhaps you'll consider working with me - I can show you how to master the passagio to the point where you won't even call it a passagio, it'll just feel like a normal part of the voice.
As an older individual trying to improve what little singing voice I have, this is very helpful, thanks!
you are very welcome
Also I think breathing has a lot to do with that problem, it's necessary to have a good breathing to give you that energy and power to push through the chest voice
yes correct breath technique is part of it.
Yeah I think so
Dude ! This is 24 carat gold info .This is such incredibly useful information and such a great reminder to me personally about so many terrible habits I’ve developed over the years of practicing so incorrectly . Thank you so much for this great post !!!!
you are very welcome. for more check out my website PHILMOUFARREGE.COM
Let me summarize this video...
How do you sing higher without falsetto? You sing higher with your chest voice! Thanks, man. You really cleared it up!
The point of this video is to clear up the misconception out there that you need to "leave" your chest voice and "find mixed voice". The truth is that mixed voice is just your chest voice working properly in the high range. If you are singing the right way in your higher range in chest voice then you are automatically in "mixed voice".
@@philmoufarrege spot on mate
@@philmoufarrege The mixed voice concept/ misconception maybe makes sense to a novice singer who is hitting the all notes but unkowingly only using half their potental voice, then as they progress they can hear and feel the difference as they slowly dial in the 'rest of their voice'...this is my experience trying to learn it. Thanks
@phil then change the name of the video. “How” means you’re actually going to give tips on what to do , not explain the misconception
@TheJAMilyFamily I don’t think he needs to change the title I think you need to change the way you interpret things
I am baritone and I have a big problem with the high notes becuase there are a lot of songs I wanna sing but I cannot for that problem
Diego Caicedo Cordoba Yea and I just sing female songs a few notes higher, an octave lower. It kind of doesn’t sound as powerful.
Dude i had the same problems a few years ago then i discovered trasposing songs dude it works just like two or three tones its easy to find transposed song but if don't learn an instrument like i don't know guitar or piano or ukelele or something thats my attempt of helping you greetings from chileee
idk the same here, my neck (lyrinx) does hurt a bit when i tries to bring the tone out
Diego Caicedo Cordoba same here
You need to develop a mix, pulling your chest voice is difficult once you get too high and can be impossible after a certain point. When he was doing some of the scales in the video he was mixing too, but the mix was chest-dominant or balanced, allowing it to sound more full then before when he was singing a head-dominant mix or pure head voice. Baritones really shouldn't fret about their voices, they can get much richer tones than tenors (like me) yet still have more ease than basses in high notes. If you develop a mix (and head voice if you usually sing in falsetto) I assure you you will have so much more ease on higher notes.
Lol I saw this video few months ago and thought this is something I couldn't understand, but recently I started to pull chest with feeling of relief and I could go all the way up, now I watch this vid and for the first time I understand what you are talking about. It's really almost impossible to understand from the video, at least in my case
though in songs, it's still hard to use, when the high note comes in actual singing a song, I usually use strong head voice instead of chest mix. How to get used to it? :D It's like, I can sing it only after I belt a note, separately, before singing a phrase
Rizer, heh's right. You really can't learn this by yourself.Get the lesson do yourself a favor. I do not know this guy. This is the first time I've seen this or any of his videos but I've learnt how to do this myself iwht a teacher. You need a teacher. Its not easy even then for many of us. Do yourself a favor. get the lesson. He does a fair job of explaining the problem and heading towards the resolution of it. But unless you have worked through this, its pretty hard to understand any explanation of it. Either you see someone demonstrating it while explaining with a student or do a lesson yourself.
Have been trying to figure out head voices for few decades. Lesson I learned is you need to keep practicing when you nailed it. Once you lost it, it’s gonna start from zero again.
So encouraging! I was trying to explain this to the choir I sing in ( I'm not saying I'ma pro, btw) but they were all laughing at my powerful on-key full chest voice and saying I'm doing it wrong and that I won't even last. I got so discouraged, I left the choir. Got depressed and felt nobody will ever like my voice. So glad I found you! Not going back to the choir but I'll subscribe to your channel and keep practising at home. When I've saved enough money, I'll pay for coaching lessons with you. Thanks, you're a great tutor.
many people have been indoctrinated to believe that any kind of loud singing is "wrong" and "unhealthy". If it is done correctly there is nothing that gives quicker results.
Your type of voice doesn't really belong in a choir because you are too loud for it. People like you have to learn to quieten their voices in order to blend in. But as I said, you don't need to be there. Go be a soloist or lead a band. they can't do what you can do. If you do want to sing with a choir, you will need to learn how to sing more quietly. I have seen several people like you have to go through this - one a man and two were women. Its actually a little bit psychologically damaging to shut people like you down for the sake of a choir. You need your own thing or join gospel choir. They will often have a place for this sort of loud singing.
@@aacha548 hmm, speaks volumes and explains a whole lot. Puts the whole trajectory of my life in view from a different perspective. Piecing together stuff that have been happening. No one explained it like this. I was just being shut down till I gave it up. The psychological damage was immense. Not sure what the future holds yet. I learned, by taking measurements with a keyboard while singing different songs, that I actually have a wide range, so I've been practicing how to blend both quiet and loud singing with different colours in my voice, each one used deliberately for effect. I have miles to go yet before I get on stage again (if). If not, I'll just enjoy the fact that I improved my technique and I'll teach others what I've learned. Gracias amigo. I really appreciate your taking the time to write out your comment.
A. O'Michael I too was in choir and while I wasn’t being made fun of, I carried the tenor section a lot. And t was quite annoying to me that no one else cared like I did but I just graduated and I want a solo singing career, and maybe be huge one day. But my advice is don’t let these people who are inexperienced and probably jealous of your beautiful voice. Volume control is something I must learn to but choir really isn’t my style anymore and it’s good that you feel free and I hope to hear you sing some songs you sound like you’re very talented, hard working, and driven.
@@aacha548 That is true!
I sing in Tenor range.
I had sung in german good amature choirs. The professional choir conductors did not like my thin high solistic voice ( my natural voice! and I sang very emotional, in perfect tune, and powerful ). So I could not harmonise with the groups. After that I led a Church Choir and tried teaching them to sing more emotion and dynamic, anyway no chance! One time a professional choir conductor sang with in his choir, what happend was, he sang lyrical and dynamic and sounded solistic, his sounds and style is similar to mine!!!!
He was the one who refused me to join singing in his church choir according to my singing style, but he did the same ( His tone sounds like operetta and can not blend with the group! )
O.K. I just want to tell someone!!
I don't have the strain there. My strain begins when I m almost to the top. That problem must be because the vocal cords are not really trained. The more u sing, the better it gets. There is no instant result.
If your strain begins when you're high (you didn't specifiy what note range so I'll assume it's probably A4 and higher) then that can be the cause of a few different things - in that case you need to train 4 different coordinations and strengthen them. To find out more about that sign up for my email list on philmoufarrege.com
Thank you Phil, this was fun. I haven't done mixed voice in too long.
Wow thanks man. I reached notes that I didn't think I could.
I've learned a lot. I'll try my best to apply all your knowledge how to sing strong properly. Thank you.
you are very welcome
Thank you brother ,am watching from east Africa,Tanzania, this has really change my perspective,hope I'll become better as I practice
THIS! is the same answer that I have been looking for when I asked this question earlier today at choir practice. Thank you some much for having the answer. Robin G.
you are very welcome
Thanks for the videos! I've been taking lessons for a bit over half a year now and I'm still struggling with G4, which is probably expected. My teacher is also female and I'm male and it's sometimes a bit difficult for her to understand the male voice and give directions (she says so herself). I've watched a few of your videos and immediately got a lot of useful hints. I also like that you explain your terminology, it makes things very clear to understand and the different terms really are a major factor for confusion when you look up information on the internet.
I hope I can unlock my voice soon! 💪
awesome to hear, glad things are clicking for you
Hi phil i'm from India. Your video is really helpful.......thanks for making such a good tutorial👏
Trying to wake up the neighbor with my singing. 🤦♂️😂. Thought about putting big speakers outside so they could be mad. Trying to make it really loud as well.
Very useful! Thanks will practice this to sing higher using the piano.
This was helpful. Not seen this mentioned so directly anywhere else. Cheers.
you are most welcome. I have a free guide that goes deeper on my website here PHILMOUFARREGE.COM
In high school, I could produce lots of volume while singing in falsetto. I had my tonsils out when I was around 18. After that I had almost no volume to my falsetto. Have you ever heard of this happening? Just wondering your thoughts on why that happened and why I can't seem to get back the power behind my falsetto.
Very interesting. I can't say for sure what happened but removing any part of the body can definitely have unforseen consequences on lots of things. The body is very complex. There is also the possibility that it is unrelated to the tonsils but just so happened to coincide around the same time. Or did you have tonsilitis at the time? if so, the illness may have weakened your voice and simply needs to be restrengthened again. I can't say for sure without hearing you. It might be best for you to schedule a Skype lesson with me so I can show you the way forward to rebuild your voice. www.philmoufarrege.com/skype-lessons
You are a good teacher. ( My parents thought there was an alien invasion tho)
Only one video inTH-cam which helps meee and clears the. Concept of high notes... Thankssss bruhoooooo x 1000000000000000 times
First video on singing high notes I have seen that makes some actual sense
That is good, some was funny yet very. trrue, Your voice is strong, very good.
👏👏👏👌 you are the best man, everything becomes clearer with your direct demonstrations, terms are not very important, experience is. Now I know clearly that I'm comfortable up to G4
I'm practicing singing secretly HAHAHA my family don't know this
viktor magtanggol haha ako rin
Same lol
hahahahahahaha why is a secret? ahhaha
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I am currently trying to mix but I end up having a yelling tonal quality to the voice that is very loud (After I go above E4). When I mix I tend to use breath support like I am trying to push alot of air through my vocal chords at once. Is this the correct approach and how do I prevent yelling timbre?
hi, what you are describing is a good first step. to go further you'll need to get more control of the vocal cord compression and larynx - check out this video: th-cam.com/video/JWjbdmHma8s/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugw_YsK4c9OyojHRqb14AaABAg
This was extremely helpful for me, thanks man!
thank you
I hope I was living alone and without neighbors for me to sing
Thank you coach this is so informative🎶👍 now i kinda know why iam hitting d ceiling..my connection to my body n posture👍👍👍 will follow ur tips
I’m concerned my upstairs neighbors hear me doing this and try to pay me back by stomping around
yep that's pretty common
I love the way you are sir😁😁😁😁😁
My note where my voice wants to break is E although if I lower the larynx I can sing higher in full chest. They say that E is typical for lyric baritones (me?) and tenors break higher. Others think that almost everyone breaks at E, even tenors. And then there is the mystery of how tenors seem to sing past that E without sounding even like they use a mix. So I can do that too but I guess that's what they call "belting" and it's perhaps very close to forcing;. All pretty confusing stuff for anyone in the zone around E where you have also the Heldentenor and Barytone Martin.
Listen to Tom Jones he's a bari and he goes right up to those high B's. there is no magical thing that tenors have that baris don't have. The vocal break can be in different areas based on how developed your voice is. Some people even have it on C4, does that mean they're stuck like that forever? No it means they have an underdeveloped voice. The stronger your voice the higher the break moves up and then you learn to coordinate the voice so the vocal break disappears.
The break is just wherever your weakness is at it's not so much of a "thing" as it is more wherever your vocal cords want to let go too much and lose connection. it can occur due to many different issues in the technique, it can be simply because you lack the strength development in the voice, or it can occur due to improper coordination of the vowel/breath/volume or it can even be because of improper falsetto development. As you learn the proper technique you can learn how to eliminate the break and take the same voice all the way up, even if you are a baritone. When I first started I couldn't get past F4, now I can go up to the 5th octave.
Best advice I can give is forget about the baritone/tenor nonsense it won't help you. What you need is to learn the proper technique from someone that can teach it properly you won't figure it out from youtube videos, you need someone that can give you corrections, for instance you mentioned stuff about how you can lower your larynx and you're not sure if you're forcing your voice, well that's impossible to help you with that unless I hear you doing it. If I heard you, within a few seconds I could tell you if it was on the right track or not.
@@philmoufarrege Thank you so much for the feedback dear Phil. You certainly seem to have gathered a very deep insight and knowledge.I am actually more a trumpet player and is this just a more of a theoretical discovery tour for me.(about trumpet there is also a lot of discussion and mystery about high notes ) I am 60 and very clumsy and shy before public, so as real singer, I am very modest in my ambitions :-)
I see, glad to have helped. I had no idea about that in regards to trumpets!
Take care!
This was extremely helpful! Thank you!
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Would you say learning this technique is a higher priority that mastering the transitioning to head voice(falsetto)?
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Initially I used to sing very smoothly with my head voice only but now over the years with the age, I am singing more with the chest voice than the head as it has gone very very weak. But my chest voice has a very limited range, so I have to use my head voice, but the "transition" splits my voice in very tangent notes and so I am very uncomfortable singing in any voice now. How to bring the same strength in my head voice which I used to sing in very well. please guide ...
train your throat to stay open, as in yawning, then don't use too much air when singing high notes. Just support well the breathing with the diaphragm and the abdomen muscles and the magic will hapen
I don't understand something your response will be greatly appreciated.
when I sing in falsetto and try to change notes a bit it breaks but I'm still in falsetto. It becomes very airy and low but it's still falsetto. I don't understand what the difference between these two is and how I can avoid breaking my falsetto. Is this puberty?
This guy is so cool...am really doing it
nice, good job!
I consider myself bass baritone but I sing full up until about B4, I think your advice was a perfect explanation. You really do have to yell into it a bit. My issue is my dark colour
Ivan Rokov what worked for me was to utilize my nose ever so slightly after practicing lip trills. Pretend as though you want the air to flow through the top of your mouth but not quite through the nose.
Second tip would be to maintain a neutral larynx or even push it down slightly.
Once you get comfortable doing those you sort of have to yell gently into it and once you feel it connect you have to keep practicing that until your body remembers.
Ivan Rokov I would also note. Bb1 is profoundly low so F4 is pretty good range, I would utilize mix and falsetto after A4#
@@Poseidon.95 your welcome!, let me know how it goes, also as a lower tone voice, don't be afraid to utilize vocal mix to fake a belt. I'll tell you right now, nobody can tell the different because we already have large vocal profiles. If you control your volume in mid voice and save mix/falsetto for crescendos, there's a good chance nobody will know where your chestvoice ends and headvoice begins. My friends laugh because I can utterly drown out a belting soprano at C5 in falsetto haha.
I'm jealous that you can reach bb1 though, that's amazing, you would be invaluable in choir.
@@Poseidon.95 A voice that's heavy and low is an asset so I think you're blessed if anything. If your range is already A1 to C5 that's actually impressive, certainly professional. I actually think you may have already reached your technical bridge. I would say this video might not apply to you since you should probably be using vocal mix if you want to be able to hit a higher note with the intensity of a belt. In my experience, people cannot tell the difference.
I can reach C2 if I'm sick or just waking up, but my most reliable low note is an E2, I can sing up to G5 so our range is about the same, my bridge was about F4#, now it's about A4 after training but I can hit a dry B4.
Do you think your voice leans dramatic or lyric?
@@Poseidon.95 Everyone's different, I would say breathyness isn't a requirement for falsetto. I know your pain though that's the only reason I went out of my way because G4-B4 are all the "money notes" in modern music haha. I think the money note for your voice type is actually B1 and E4, if you re-key the songs to where those are the lows and the highs, you'd be surprised to find that a lot of that "good sound" is relative to voice types.
I can tell you now, my B4 sounds nothing like a tenors would, it's shouty and intimitdating. If your mix sounds like falsetto than your modal singing voice might be overly chesty. If you brighten the sound of your chest voice and use your nose more, it *should* sound more connected and cohesive when you transition to headvoice.
After hearing all this I think vocal mixing is what your should do, full voice for men is usually capped about 2 - 2.5 octaves. Falsetto & mix in men greatly extends our range. I think it should be known that you have good range already it's just about getting the right vocal mix to make your g4 sound convincing lol
why u so talented 😩
I'm not talented at all😄
Thank you so so much, there's so much great information and tips,
i know the vows are like, a prior thing to do, but i didn't got it right untill i saw the video, and
since i've been learning how to reach higher notes with my chest voice, this is really being helpfull
i'll practice with these new skills, thank you once again!
Thank you for these tips, I appreciate them
you are most welcome
I love your videos! Im a new singer. I hope i can be a good singer like you😊
thanks for writing, best of luck!
can you help me , i am deaf tone but I can sing with my head voice (fully) and i need coach now.
Hi Phil. I learned how to mix but I have a problem. I can't connect mixed with head voice. I can connect chest and makes it thinner, but I can't let it go into head voice. I don't know if u understand what I say
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It makes no sense to say use your chest voice through your bridge as my chest voice physically ends at E4 so there is no mixed or chest voice in the bridge, you’re just making your falsetto/head voice SOUND like chest voice by using less air and adding compression or something(?). For those who say you mix, it’s impossible to use both chest voice and head voice at the same time unless you’re the alien in fifth element
It makes plenty of sense and I have the results to prove it. If your chest voice ends at E4 it simply means you have not had the proper training and information and guidance to develop it further. I am not making my falsetto "sound like chest" on those higher notes, I am singing in chest voice (the same voice below the E4 and taking it above) you are not hearing accurately what I am doing. If you want to learn, ask questions and seek guidance because what you are doing is arguing from a point of ignorance.
This is actually really helpful, I'll start doing higher notes this way as soon as my throat stops hurting and gets better. I have a question, by the way. I've been trying to sing more in a breathy kind of way because I don't feel pressure or pain in my throat. But lately, I feel like I started squeezing my throat without realizing. Do you have any tips on how to sing more breathy, maybe?
Without hearing you there could be many reasons for what is happening
This is THE best video instruction on this topic that I have ever heard. Some of these videos have it ALL wrong. When guys like Steve Perry, Tom Chaplin, and some others sing those big high notes, they are in fact in their chest voice. Great job!
thank you
Is that a bit like belting, where you push your chest voice beyond its usual break? I usually get an nasty shouty yell at that point
That's the very first preliminary step. I usually have people just learn how to comfortably belt up to their first bridge which would be about the F4. Yes it sounds like shouting, sounds a bit ugly. But it's a required step, without this you cannot move forward to the next steps. This phase strengthens the voice and then once you can do that, then there are other steps to refine it, coordinate it and turn it into something that is balanced and flexible and not shouty. I have 4 main modules or steps that I take singers through, what you described was what I would call step 1.
@@philmoufarrege Thanks for replying Phil, yes, i think my attempts at belting go up to around F4, with my normal 'yodel point' being B/C. Thats good advice, i can see the sense in building strength and familiarity in that 1st phase, then moving forward as you suggest. Jim
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Omg yesss I thought this for yearsssssssss I found this out not so long agooo, but I wish I would have found this video years agoooo
I’m still confused, idk how to sing with my chest voice
the simplest way to BEGIN is to get used to shouting without hurting yourself. a loud strong voice. get used to singing COMFORTABLY with a big sound. Once you get used to that you will likely need to find a SKILLED singing teacher to help you take it further and refine it.
Or maybe its just the fact that Im a bass. My chest range is D#2 - D#4. Though, I feel like I can hit a F4 (because some times I can get to that for a split second when Im correctly using my diaphragm). I for sure do vowels wrong so maybe I do have hope after-all?
range does not defy your fach, timbre does too. I'm a tenor (I think) and go to an Eb2, going low doesn't mean you're a lower fach same thing with going high, you're probably a baritone or something.
Thanks for helping him Aaron.
@@interesting1735 One month of exercising my Belting and... you were right. Not only the E4 has become something that I can reach without straining the F4s and F#4s require some warm-up and a bit of strain to pull off. I can even sometimes hit G4s! Though I feel like I'm hurting my voice when I belt F4s so the next thing I'll try to introduce is a better way of accessing my higher chest register without straining, thanks! Any tips?
I will try this tomorrow, this is so informative thanks for this btw from Ph Bro, i some case I use falsetto if i cant hit high notes, and it so dumb sad, TbH Thank U again
wow so cool this what i looking for.. his show mistake and he show to fix it thank you
expected bullshit like 99% of youtube singing instruction, but I agree. so many people think they're gonna turn their falsetto C5 into a Pavarotti C5. well, then why don't countertenor C5s sound like Pavarotti. they have the most well developed falsetto - doesn't sound full at all, in the sense that full voice is full.
You are the best!! now i can fully know that things keep it up!! Thankss
How many of you find it impossible to sing any way other than falsetto? Literally hurts to sing in chest for me and I can't figure out how to fix that. Any tips?
I had one student in the past she had spent her entire life singing in falsetto, had no idea how to use her chest voice. in a year I had her going up to E5 in chest. At first there was a lot of yelling and shouting, but doing it in a way that's safe and non-damaging. then gradually refining from there. It's just as much of strengthening as it is technique. perhaps more so strengthening. reach out to me at philmoufarrege.com if you need help.
That one video, that one fragment where you sing "... in the night" made me go from being limited to F4 to being able to occasionally hit even D#5 in chest voice. Incredible.
wow good on you
So say that as a beginner, my mixed voice thins out completely into head voice at about b flat, is the goal to raise that point at which it thins higher and higher up? Or is it written in stone? And what muscles do i need to work to do that?
yeah you can keep a solid chesty sound all the way up, even into the 5th octave. Basically you have to strengthen the ability to compress the vocal cords while the larynx is lower. If the larynx raises too much the voice will thin out too early and when you get into the high range it will sound too thin and feel unstable. Check out this video for an overview of it
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@@philmoufarrege Thank you immensely
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Great information..Thank You!
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thanks, extremely helpful
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Good points made. I agree
Hey I know this comment is kinda late..but I can do the same thing comfortably till C5 but I still can't use my mixed voice in a song..I just go into head voice. Any tips to help me fix that?Thanks
Work your voice in segments. meaning, make sure you can sing songs up to F4 ALL THE WAY THROUGH. Once you get very skilled in that area then start singing songs that are a bit higher up, say up to G#4 etc. You will start to find that even though you can "hit" notes up to C5 you will most likely find you have lots of technique issues way below that note, even as low as C4-F4 area. Fixing these issues will be the answer to your problem. If you need more guidance I recommend working with me directly.
This is exactly my problem atm. Great to learn what my problem is and how I can fix it. Thanks :D
you are very welcome. check out my website for more tips PHILMOUFARREGE.COM
Thank you for your great efforts trying to explain what mixed voice is. I wish this video existed when I tried to find it. But I finally did it:)
you are very welcome! I share your sentiments about mixed voice
Is head voice and mixed voice the same.. i cant belt on high note i always change to my mixed voice on higher note..
there are two definitions of head voice that people use:
- sometimes when people are saying head voice they are just talking about a falsetto that is not breathy
- sometimes when people are saying head voice they are talking about mixed voice (a fully connected full voice)
it's important you understand which definition the teacher is using because some teachers will say things like "you need to connect your chest and head voice together" but really all they're doing is going from chest voice to falsetto. While this is a helpful skill it is not how you actually develop a fully connected mixed voice as I point out in this video. You actually just have to learn how to stay in your chest voice all the way up and learn to eliminate the vocal break while still staying in the same voice.
i struggle when i sing in F#4 what should i do to increase?
I used to be stuck there for years. i specialize in helping singers overcome this very problem. reach out to me at philmoufarrege.com
Hi Phil, do you have any recommended specific vocal exercises to bring the chest voice higher and through the break?
Head to my website and sign up for the free mini course.
Wow this has been very helpful... thanks
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Fab tutorial, this really helped me 👌 Thank you🙏 I just subscribed
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I have a wide vocal range. My lowest note is an E flat and my highest is a c#5 but I would like to hit higher notes. Also, my voice dries out really fast. Any tips?
any tips I could give you would depend on what is holding you back. And to judge that I would need to hear what you are doing.
You explained it very well. Thanks
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Immediately subscribed..
Sir I'm trying my best to get to the high pitch.....but whenever I try to sing high note .. my voice cracks ....but whenever I sing a song which has low scale my friends told me that I have good voice ...SO how can I increase my vocal range ....
Do you have to be so loud during the “correct bridge/mixed voice? What if the song you’re singing calls for a lower volume but doesn’t want a falsetto?
you can learn to sing less loud, but there is definitely still a loudness to even lighter singing if you want to stay STABLE in the high range. Also, it is more about tweaking the VOWELS. Different vowels create more loudness/intensity in the voice. Also, the way to learn how to be less loud is achieved not through avoiding loudness by through accepting it and building the strength to be loud. Just like lifting weights, as you get stronger at heavier sounds you can then also back off and do them with less intensity. All in all, don't shy away from being loud, you'll never unlock your voice to its full potential by avoiding it.
Does singing higher without falsetto apply to opera singers? (particullarly in operatic tenors) Because I am still working trying to sing high no falsetto notes in my operatic range as a tenor (came out of baritone) since in the future I may end up singing arias like Nessun Dorma and La donna e mobile plus Mario Lanza songs.
YES absolutely does apply. In opera they will call a connected chest voice above the F4 "headvoice" but it is actually chest voice/full voice not a falsetto sound. The reason it is called head voice is because the vowels need to be adjusted in a way that prevents you "yelling" and instead allows the voice to properly thin out and "rest" on each pitch. But you get there by slowly taking the chest voice higher as it strengthens.
@@philmoufarrege Thanks for the info.
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This is the only video that has been most useful in showing out to not use falcetto
Is C6 a good thing to do for a male without falsetto or is it abnormally dangerous?
like anything in singing it's not so much WHAT you do it's HOW you do it. It's like saying "is driving your car dangerous?" depends HOW you're driving.
@@philmoufarrege I'm gonna take it as a 'No' then and practise mt way up there
Thanks for the reply
from my understanding, there's no such thing as a note to high or too low to be sung healthily. it just that you can be inclined to do some bad things with your voice when you try to hit that high or that low (like locking your vocal cords while forcing too much air through them). as long as you don't feel stress, tension or pain, you're likely not injuring yourself, the worst that could happen is that you won't hit the note you're aiming for.
I'm a full on bass. I've never come above the f4 in chest voice/mix and i truly don't think i ever can.... i have no problem going down to the c2 tho, so pushing further would mean going over 2,5 octaves in chest voice only.... is that possible?
If you are REALLY a bass then yes it will be a bit different for you than most people I have in mind when I make videos. Having said that the actual TECHNIQUE of what I teach is still just as relevant for you no matter what the voice type, it's just where your voice is going to bridge and mix is going to be different. I recommend booking a skype lesson with me so I can teach you how to apply it specifically for you - these videos are general overviews because thousands of people are watching them.
Hi, I was practicing once and suddely got a higher voice, lets say my normal range is g2-g4 and then it turned into g3-d#5, it felt like chest voice all the way and if I wanted to do a E5 I had to do it in falsetto. In another occassion, I was using falsetto when suddenly my larynx went down and my voice felt much heavier and full, while I was singing a G5. Do you think I was using mix voice? how do you explain these changes in my voice?
I would need to hear it to comment on it.
@@philmoufarrege Hi, well the thing is, I can't do it when I want. It just happened to me twice. If you want you can check my channel, there's a video a demonstration of my normal voice. thanks
From what I heard on your clips, all that high range you're talking about is actually falsetto. Your approach to your chest voice would need to be completely changed and reworked. You approach your chest voice far too softly so what happens is your voice doesn't engage properly, this video I made is for people like you. You need to stay in a robust strong chest voice. You don't use enough volume, and when you do start to use the right volume that's when you'll run into challenges that you will need proper training to overcome.
@@philmoufarrege Well actually the clips were falsetto, but these aren't the high notes I was talking about. I didn't record it and I can't sing like that again, but the high notes weren't falsetto for sure, it sounded a lot like Pavarotti. It happened while I was practicing lower notes with falsetto, my throat suddenly felt weird and I could sing high, believe me or not, it just happened once.
so you did the example where F4 is the break... my F4 is where i break, but is what you're saying not applied to bass singers? I would like to extend my upper chest but am I asking for too much?
Daniel Gomez anyone could do it. It would be better if you’re a bass because you would be able to sing low and high. It’s just all in the technique and proper breath support
Thx for uploading such a great video! Liked and subbed. It has been haelpful alot! i have a question, in the very last scale you demonstrated, when you hit around the last note which is c5, did you change your stance into falsetto based shape even a little? I want to expand my full chest voice to D5, but if i try to hit those notes without strain, i tend to shift my stance into falsetto like form. I'm not sure if im doing it wrong, or im doing it right but due to my physical limit(shape of vocal cord)i cannot do it. Can you give me any tips on my question?(sry for my poor english)
Hi Kenny, thanks for writing. Yes when you get around the C5 and higher the voice will "blend" and "mix" more with the head or falsetto a bit more. This is really the idea of "bridging into head voice", it's really meant to be done way up here. People are trying to do it way too low in their range where it doesn't work or hold up in songs. What I'm doing is letting my voice taper out and thin more which allows it to become a little headier at the top. I make sure I don't do this until at least an A4, preferably even higher. The best way to help you will be through skype lessons. Head to my website and book a lesson with me or get my singing program.
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Phil Moufarrege thank you for your thorough answer. I'll really consider getting skype lesson from you if i can. Until then ill study with your videos. Keep up the good work! Thanks Phil!
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Phil Moufarrege hmm how about giving tips on releasing strain, using diahragm pressure, and combining both on an actual sining? I think it will be very very very helpful! 🤗🤗
Sir can I ask, does being fat affect your range?
no, but it can change your timbre, most times for the better
It can potentially make it easier to find the pressure in the body necessary to support the voice, however this pressure needs to be achieved regardless of whether you are fat or not, so getting fat to make that happen is not necessary. Being underweight can make this harder to find. I will say that being healthy and balanced is the best thing for all things in life including singing.
I have asthma is it possible to sing high notes?
my problem is that im reaching my falsetto too easily so this video was a perfect fix
thanks for the tips bro ill do my practice
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wow it's really helpful .....
Just a bit of a question, how much can you increase chest voice doing this? With "muse supremacy" as example, i can just about sing the verse comfortably in chest voice, but the high parts it's pretty much an octave higher at times....
I wanna be able to sing the high notes with the grungy sound of my chest voice, it's just so dahm high...
It can be extended up into the 5th octave in a lot of cases. When you get above the high C it starts to thin out considerably but it still can be fused as one voice rather than having to flip and "hiding" the flip. I have an entire system for developing this
Don't stop believing i love that song hahah
1:26 which note is this?😍
B4
@@philmoufarrege thank you! I'm just around this thanks to you and ken tamplin. I'm A4 and almost B4. I'm so grateful you both teachers
It sucks how loud I have to get to hit those high notes with chest voice. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I can't manage to sing high notes in chest voice at a normal volume, whereas with falsetto I can easily sing at a normal volume going as high as I want.
Loud needs to be developed first. If you want to be able to do it with less volume you absolutely MUST develop and MAINTAIN the loud strength in the voice. It's all about STRENGTH. Learn more at my website PHILMOUFARREGE.COM
If you stay in chest trough your whole vocal range you will break or hurt your voice eventually, in order to sing those notes easily and sound powerful with your voice, you need to develop mix voice, power is not push. Power comes from freedom, flexibility, openness. If you have strain in your voice then power will only come through pushing and that is not even good sounding power
a properly developed chest voice IS mixed voice. When the chest voice functions properly it IS mix. They aren't two separate things. And there definitely IS push. Push and strain are TWO DIFFERENT things. Push is adding weight and chestiness to the sound, it's keeping the chest voice engaged. Without this, the voice simply collapses into falsetto. There IS physical effort used, and this is important because louder volumes REQUIRE more physical effort in the body to support, but you don't have to strain to do that.
Phil Moufarrege I do not agree, but if that works for you, that’s perfectly good too
It definitely IS perfectly good and definitely DOES work for me...but not JUST me...the great thing is I have successfully taught many singers how to do this FROM SCRATCH over and over again. I like to actually SHOW and PROVE with actual results: "mixed voice" here:
Firstly, my own voice: th-cam.com/video/YhO7TNp73CE/w-d-xo.html
then my students: Quentin Bouvier - www.philmoufarrege.com/blog/singing-transformation-quentin-bouvier
Dane Maxwell - www.philmoufarrege.com/blog/singing-transformation-before-and-after-dane-maxwell
Jaffer Ridaa - www.philmoufarrege.com/blog/singing-transformation-jaffer-ridaa
Doug Zeigenbein - th-cam.com/video/M5wHrRfFslI/w-d-xo.html
I put my money where my mouth is and demonstrate the results in both my voice and my students.
Great explanation man, nuff love.
It's mostly just psychological. Like being scared to be loud becuase you might make others yell at you or think you're crazy. And the subconscious tension in the body associated with that.
That can definitely be part of this, but I wouldn't say that is "mostly" what is preventing people from being able to expand their vocal range higher.
Not only did I spend years figuring this out for myself but I've taught this successfully to many many people, and what I've seen mostly is that even if they are totally comfortable psychologically, they still cannot get their voice to work freely and that is because we are dealing with muscle strength and coordination.
Once we get those things working then the voice just responds even without you having to think about it
is there any alcohol that can i consume, to not feel pain in my throat?
nope. you need to learn good vocal technique. good technique does not hurt and singing should make you feel great.
Yeah, thanks for the answer:) but, i asked, sometimes i need to drink alcohol and i am asking u which of drinks is least harmful😆 im scared not to cut my throat that way 🤣
everybody reacts differently to different foods and drinks, you need to be mindful and sensitive and study the after effects of what each food or drink does to your body. This is something you have to pay attention to yourself and notice.
Phil Moufarrege wow, very good answer actually. Thank you
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This is helpful 👌👍 thanks for sharing 💕
You are very welcome. To learn more contact me at PHILMOUFARREGE.COM and we can talk about what you're struggling with and how to move toward your goals.
Not sure but was that mix voice? @1:22
yes you can call it mix or chest voice either way. To me mix is just the chest voice functioning properly. So the way I would teach you this is by training your chest voice and making it function without strain. When the voice is developed and functions properly there is great overlap in the voice and all these terminologies become shades of grey rather than hard on off switches.
Phil Moufarrege oh ok. Thanks for the info! :D
Phil Moufarrege btw, I'm having trouble in identifying the sound of the chords. Like for example, a G has been played, I don't really have any idea that its a G until they show me hot its been played. Can you please help me or do you have any video about it that can help me with this kind of problem.