Are Treats and Punishment Necessary For Dog Training?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2022
- Today Uncle Stonnie is talking about whether or not treats and punishment are necessary for dog training.
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"Dogs are pleasure seekers and pain avoiders" most accurate phrase I've heard in a while! 👌
Applies to humans aswell, much more than we like to admit 😅 / the shrink
Applies to people as well and most living organisms!
Please, please PLEASE, give this man a spot on TV! Common sense dog training.
"The internet peddles 'magic' a lot..." No truer words have been spoken re the digital age. Thanks Uncle Stonnie!
No one can explain common sense and logic as well as Stonnie.
He can definitely dumb it down
Thank you!
@@wmickinley Pearls before swine, in your case.
Problem is common sense and logic is fairly rare in people now a days 😂
@@StonnieDennis never heard that phrase, but I’m an Atheist.
Uncle Stonnie instant classic!
Also, folks seem to expect a 3 month old puppy to act like a 3 yr old dog.
I have several requests to breed my dogs.
Everyone wants a puppy that behaves just like mine.
If I could make them.be born fully trained I might actually consider breeding.
I don't dislike ethical breeders. I just don't want to have pups and have to sell them.
I started out wanting a nice big guarding breed like a GSD, a doberman or something similar. The wise words of Stonnie has shown me that my current lifestyle just isn't conducive to those breeds of dog. I live in the suburbs, have a young family and a busy job. It would've been a disaster.
After 1000's of hours my mal is magically trained😃
The BEST advice I got was from Uncle Stonie. Paraphrasing: Be the most interesting thing in your dogs life.
It is nice to see someone write the truth. It takes time. Thank You
It works well for being a spouse too!
Stonnie, you're the only teacher on TH-cam that I would never want a direct answer from. You knit this whole web of wisdom full of real life examples and experience before you give an answer to a question and that's infinitely more valuable. I'm a better dog trainer everytime I watch one of your lessons with my coffee
I totally lucked out when I got my first GSD about 20 years ago. I lived in an apartment and didn’t have access to a yard, but luckily, we only lived there for a couple of months. By the time we moved to a place with a yard, she was potty trained. She turned out to be calm and gentle and definitely a “learn as you go” dog. I was much younger and on the go then and I took her everywhere with me. She had a yard to run in and I walked her often. She was happy to stay at home, happy to go out and as good as gold when I was at work. She was great with other dogs, especially small ones. Everybody loved her. When I say I lucked out , I mean it. I got her impulsively and it could have been a disaster. I must have been the most interesting person in the world because she was such a well behaved and happy dog that I had to do very little training with her. Tina was just the best and there will never be another one like her.
Yes please, 15 more hours of your training ideology!! I’ve learned so much from you over the years on TH-cam, thank you!!
Stonnie, I took your advice. I found a English cream Retriever puppy to buy a couple days ago. I absolutely love him. I took him to three stores with me shopping yesterday. It was his first trip out. He was fabulous. Everyone fell in love with him. He got so much attention, you would think he was a rock star. 😁 It is fun seeing the joy he brings people. Thank you for such good advice❣️Now we just have to figure out the perfect name for him. 😊
As far as I'm concerned if you want to learn about dogs and dog training from the internet, Stonnie and Nate Schoemer are the best. Stonnie teaches me to teach manners and good behavior, Nate teaches me to teach tricks. Happy training. Woof woof.
An exciting topic. If more dog owners bought dogs according to their lifestyle, many problems would be solved. Am so heartily united with you. I have followed your TH-cam channel in recent years and it makes me happy every time you post a new video. From a faithful following in Norway
Thank you, sir! I agreed with everything that you said. Pick the right dog for your lifestyle and personality! Have a nice weekend hanging out with the labbies😊
The quality of a trainer is in their adaptability to the dog's abilities and the owner's objectives. Rewards and punishments are communication devices. Like Stonnie says, if the dog fits the lifestyle it will require less communication to get the desired outcomes.
My lab is with me almost 24/7.
When I'm not with him is then I'm working or cutting my grass
Cooper even sleeps at my side.
He's a 11month old pup but this is what I want.
My Lab even walks next to me when i cut the lawn😆
@@vikingdogmanship that's cool ,mine will walk behind me but we have gumballs in the grass they fly out like bullets I don't want them to hit him so I'll put the pup inside
My Malinois sleeps with me.
The lab is such a good boy! He is absolutely wonderful and soooo pretty on top of it. Glorious creature!
Very much common sense. My wife and I are retired and very active. We have 30 acres and the boys love to run free along our trails while we walk them. They are relentless high energy Crosses of a Vizsla dad and Weimaraner mom.
They want constant attention
This is a very interesting topic and I think what people really need to take from this is that punishment/ lead correction is unnecessary if the owners pick the right dog for their lifestyle and build their relationship with their dog in the first place. I’ve never seen you use punishment or correction in any of your videos because you are able to provide the dog with what they need and build a relationship with them through food work and giving them a good and interesting life/experience at your centre. The word no is used in my house sometimes but if I train a dog with food work to walk to heal before it’s let off the lead in a field I don’t expect to need to jerk its lead to make it walk to heal! What you said about starting that relationship when they are young is very important too! Maybe you could do another video on training puppies early. I achieved an automatic sit and great eye contact from my puppy very quickly just by building that relationship with food work.
I read recently that stress comes from a person thinking that they will not be able to accomplish a task or problem that is in front of them. You’re right, the further a dog’s natural tendencies are from the environment he’s in, the more training has to be done. Its like taking a big lumberjack type guy and forcing him to work in an office, or an indoors intellectual type and forcing him to work physical labor outdoors every day. It can be done, but it takes a lot more time than fitting the nature of the person to the job/lifestyle.
This is a great explanation and breakdown for expectations and getting everybody on the same page about what kind of dog matches their current lifestyle. I’m looking forward to more videos like this! Its cool to hear that worth the right match in temperament and expectations with the owner, it makes things easier. It’s great to see a breakdown in difference between show lines, working lines, lines bred to be calm in temperament, and which ones are bred to be more demanding of your attention. Sometimes it helps show the right things to look out for and the right specific questions to ask each breeder. I love the idea of a mellow, willing to please, sturdy, dog like the yellow English lab you’re walking there. My husband loves Australian cattle dogs. I do too, they’re sweet, when it’s the right one. Love your vids Stonnie! Even pointing out what to watch out for in good and not so great trainers! It sounds like the year before a dog is the most important.
I said to my friends when they got their puppy (working English cocker), whatever they’re doing, either they are training the dog or he is training them. They have been very intentional with their training and have a lovely dog (and a happy home).
I have been saying this exact stuff you are saying for several years now. I myself are guilty of getting caught up in the idea of this breed would be great at & this would be a great dog to have. But I have also learned since getting my Cane Corso that my labs were just perfect for my family & I. Thank you for being honest & making these videos!
i loved this discussion. I am looking for the right dog for me, and this helped me greatly and what to ask persons breeding dogs, regarding the puppies parents. It also gave me a great introduction to great ‘training’ techniques, which are not always necessary; the lesson of ‘not always needed’ just what I wanted to hear.
so many people think training is, ‘dog will shake their hand’, ‘dog will lay down’, ‘dog will bark’…. that’s not what I need.
Another great video filled with wisdom! Thank you, Stonnie!
Thank you for watching!
Have been watching your videos for many years…..you’re the best! Thank you!
Would love to see more examples especially on the disciplinary side. I lean towards being a disciplinary but question myself on what is good solid discipline and what isn’t effective. It’s pretty difficult to find good information on what levels or discipline techniques are appropriate. Feel like there’s a million treat based videos that completely discourage discipline of any kind which doesn’t seem like real life. Appreciate all the videos and how you get into the philosophy of your training ideas
Yes. I would like to see examples of discipline that he's ok with. I can't remember ever seeing any on this channel.
Training dogs effectively and humanely is science based and does not require harsh discipline. If you feel the need to discipline an animal, you do not know how to clearly teach it what you DO want, nor to effectively set it up for success and manage it well. Try to change your way of thinking to “how can I teach my dog to…” or “how can I prevent my dog from…” Many times it’s about teaching an alternate behaviour- not looking for a way to punish or discipline the dog.
@Ridge Willis, if your dog ever has any nipping intention towards your children, discipline is called for. Dogs always protect their own, why don't we!
The best in the industry, great information as always. Now to put it to work
Wow! That was amazing!! Was recommended by a friend of mine who is a trainer and I’m glad he did! Thanks!
Just finished watching your video,l don’t think I’ve heard better training information anywhere.You are the best Love your stuff
God Da*m Uncle Stonnie ALWAYS dropping truth bombs! Life truths,not just all about dogs.
Thank you for helping me feel better! You video always make sense! Always down to earth and real life info ! My favorite dog trainer on utube ! 👍
Preach! 🙌🙌 omg I love your videos Stonnie. I’ve always had a common sense attitude towards dogs and training, but all the conflicting info out there had me doubting myself over the years. It’s nice to feel seen and validated. And omg that Bernese mountain dog!! What a giant cutie❤️❤️
Outstanding perfectly explained.
Great video. Would love to see you create more content on this topic.
I am a "bum trainer" for sure. Love your style, explanations and channel!❤
Very good information. Thanks, Stonnie.
O Uncle Stonnie, what a belting video Sir! Sound advice as always.
This was such a great message! Thank you!
You Sir are fantastic. I Love your attitude. I hope this finds you and yours well.
Thank you!
Great content. Love the philopsophy and would very much like to see more. Also would love demonstartions as you suggetsted.
I love this series! Thank you Stonnie.
Thank you for watching!
This may be the best video you ever made. And the best TH-cam video advice ever given. Thanks for your work!
Thank you for watching!
Love that: "Learn by doing"
As always I enjoyed your video. I like your straightforward honest answer and approach to training. I am one of those who will correct others dogs when about. I will reward them with attention if they are good.
Great content as always! Have a nice weekend.
Well said...so many people choose breeds by looks and give no regard to the innate needs of such a breed. Then wonder why the dog is "playing up" when they are not providing the dog with the ability to perform its genetic behaviours. I see this constantly as a dog walker . Just do some research people, consider your lifestyle and save yourself and more importantly the poor dog a lot of suffering and heartache
Great advice and makes total sense ….
Great insights... I like the way u present it...
Love this On Point video! Thank you so much 👍🏾🐾☺️
Ok I’m gonna binge watch all your videos now.
Smart move!
Me too. Used to breed Boxers but atm I don’t have a house just an apartment so have to get a different dog.
Love the concept of bum training. I know my dog has learned more from just hanging out with me then formal teaching sessions. When you spend a lot of time with your dog, talk to your dog using the same phrases they learn as much language as a three or four year old. My 5 months old golden so many words and phrases like let's go to bed. Let's go for the car ride. Let's go to the backyard. Go get your bone. It's coffee time which means quiet time yada yada yada. You could do more videos on this kind of stuff Stonnie, and like don't get a smart dog if you don't intend to spend time with it! Also what kind of dogs can you get if you live in an apartment and don't get out much? It's very very sad how people get huskies and other such beautiful dogs then leave them in an apartment all day and wonder why they tore the place up!
So many great points.
We'd love to see more on this subject! I'm about to get a golden retriever and would appreciate the in depth training videos. Thanks for the concise advice you give. Maybe a series on one dog from start to finish through your program with owner involvement would put you over the top. I would consider being involved in something along those lines and am interested in having my dog come to your training program. Great stuff.
Sign up for his online training! That's exactly what it is, it's amazing!
Stonnie trains the dogs. The videos train the people.
😊❤
Great common sense lesson. Thank you !
This is so simple and almost obvious yet a lot of dog owners and potential dog owners fail to reason in this way. And you explain it so well! I've had my dog for 2 years so there's not a lot I can do now😅but I feel a "friction", sometimes. He's a rescue and he was already 11 m o when I got him so he came to me "precooked", in a sense. The fact that he's not very good with people bothers me and that makes me feel bad and guilty towards him. I don't know if I'll ever get him to the point where he's comfortable with strangers (read: really just be comfortable in their presence, I know he's no lab nor golden retriever and I don't want him to be that) and that makes me stressed and sad.
Maybe, with time.
Absolutely with time AND as many positive experiences as you can arrange.
Hey thanks for the video. Yes, I'd watch more content on this subject.
Agreed!!! We are outside working the woods all the time - we have a solid black working line GSD - our third one over the years. It’s a perfect match for our lifestyle- love this breed so much
I’m stepping up frequency of adventures for my 7 year old Lab. He’s got a lot of energy!
I have pups who have just started going out to do horse and goat chores this week. They are learning from all the older mentor dogs. So cool to see that. Plus they're learning recall thanks to the older dogs. Lately when I trim my horses, I cut up the trimmings and everyone gets a "treasure".
Stonnie keep on preaching!!!👍
Great video! Truly on point with getting the right dog for your lifestyle. Everybody says me and my dog (Homer) are thick as thieves. He pals around with me where ever I go.
very good wisdom, and nice yard by the way!
So succinct and logical. Thank you. The first young yellow lab on this video is a gem. Can tell more about breeder?
All together now, "BUY the RIGHT DOG" &"LIVE THE RIGHT LIFESTYLE" for heavens sake.
Back to 'rounds in a squared', on a windy day! Thank Mr. Relationship counsler. Hehee just funning great video &good stuff!
I already have 3 black labs, but I still like watching to get my fix of more black labs. You are soooo right about buying or adopting the right dog. I have friends who just adopted an 8 month old puppy, mixed breeds. It has severe separation anxiety and other issues. They are at their wits end. They didn't spend time checking it's temperment and inherent breed behaviors. Nothing can beat the regal appearance and personality of a good black lab. And I am very biased about that. 😀
I use treats randomly as rewards, and lots oh hugs - relationship is fundamental
Thank you for an excellent video filled with common sense once again. I truly appreciate your help. I do have one question that I hope you that can answer. I never seem to see any of your dogs eating things they shouldn't while out on their adventures. I have 5 amazing Labradors and we are lucky enough to have the land for adventures. However, they will end up eating leaves, sticks, drinking from the creek, etc and someone ends up sick. Would you have any suggestions on how to curtail that or is it just normal behavior for dogs? Depending on the vet I ask they say to avoid it and worry about intestinal blockage while another vet say it just adds more fiber to their diet. Loving adventure but not the digestive aftermath.
Love watching your channel. The labs on your channel are magnificent! It’s been really hard for me to find a good breeder. Do you ever recommend breeders? Thanks!
Wise words Stonnie
My Aussie makes me look like some kind of trainer, which I am not, ha- lol, she almost has me fully trained 🤣
Who could NOT love those two dogs?!?! Sweet kids right there.
Good common-sense solutions to perceived problems. Common-sense reigns.
Been around Labs for 25 years and that is one chilled out lab' Stonnie, even compared to some guide dogs !
There a few people with such a different ideology for whose opinions on a topic I hold so much respect. I appreciate your videos not only for learning how to communicate and label dog training wisdom I either learned here or by doing it, but also for a reminder that there is common ground no matter what "side of the isle" you sit in. I'd love an update about how you explain dog training concepts and also healthy animal interactions to kids, either yours or those that are on your property.
I like this video. Insightful.
And the BMD..😂 I love them. They do come from my heritage. They are such easy keepers…BUT you better like dog hair!!! I lost my last one going on 3 years and decided due to MS, management of the he hair isn’t the optimal environment. Stonnie I love your training methods and no nonsense!
I haven't the patience for a dog that doesn't learn from minimal correction. My currs and heelers want to please me so much that I don't need treats, just a word of praise. I have been spoiled by my good dogs.
Good stuff!
I’d enjoy hearing how you train Labs for upland bird hunting and your thoughts on neutering
Stonnie knows what’s up!
You’ve made me feel better. I must be interesting to my dogs. But, I have a big fenced yard, I have a doggie room, with a doggie door to a fenced back yard. We go for rides and walks in big fields or state parks. I’m needing help now with my 4 month old Pyrenees pup. I’ve taught her to come, sit, down and fetch, with treats. She will obey without treats. We are stuck at the moment because my Dad fell and broke his shoulder. I have a great mentor dog, but I fear I’m losing important time with my pup. I need some help at this point. We had it going on for a while.
Great advice on having the right dog for your lifestyle Stonnie. I completely agree that if your dog loves your lifestyle the rest falls into place quite easily. I think food is probably a more effective reinforcer with certain breeds whereas actual work can sometimes be a higher motivator for others . I currently have a working lurcher here on a farm in Ireland, bred for rabbit and fox but also cleans up other varmints such as rats and mice in the sheds and around the cabin etc. Sire is a Pitbull x Greyhound (7th generation) and Dam is a Saluki x whippet ( Quite a common cross for working lurchers here). She has a very high prey drive, high energy, and not very motivated by food at all. She's a great dog around the farm, knows her prey and knows to steer well clear of livestock. Lives in the house and great with my 2 year old daughter. She travels to Spain with us twice a year and the biggest challenge for her is to switch off from prey when she's "on holidays" but ultimately she wants to understand what is expected of her and with a bit of work at 4 years of age has almost finally grasped the concept of "being on holidays" :-) Still needs encouragement and reminding when a Spanish bunny pops up suddenly :-), but anything is possible with a dog once they want to work with you.
I have never heard of a lurcher. Thank you for mentioning your lovely dog, and I was certainly glad to know a bit about the breed.
Well said.
I know you've said it before, but I think I finally heard you. 👍👍👍👍👍
Decades ago a smart lady gave me some good advice on teaching: Tell them, tell them what you told them, then tell them again!
I've just starting watching your videos and I like them, your easy to understand breakdowns of training and the whys. You might have this, but any tips on training a slightly older puppy? I'm about to get a black lab puppy that's about 4 1/2 months old. Doesn't seem like she's had too much, to any, training. She does come from a hunting line. She seems super sweet and eager for attention though. Thanks for any tips or direction to videos.
Thanks for advice this helps to get better understanding about dogs & how to train them . I was wondering how old is the yellow lab he looks looks very calm. I have 9 month English yellow lab that's not very calm unless she's waiting for her food 😄
I'm looking for Pearls of Wisdom. Stonnie's videos are as good as any I have found. Trying to teach my 5-1/2 month old American black lab to behave the way Stonnie's labs behave. My lab had an accident at 10 weeks and tore his tibia growth plate. He had surgery to pin the plates back on the bone. He has sat in his crate much of the day for over 10 weeks when he should have been learning about life. Had to keep him tranquilized and on pain meds to keep him from messing up the surgery recovery. Finally in the last few weeks he has a clean bill of health. I am trying to make up for lost time. In the short term, I would be happy if he behaved as well as Stonnie's bad behaving dogs. But we are working hard on him every day. For him, food rewards are key to everything. Getting and keeping his attention is the immediate problem I am trying to solve.
You are the best dog trainer out there. your training speaks to reality and how training and discipline should be. I was telling my wife that your like a modern day philosopher lol like Jordan Peterson or something, your advice can apply to parenting of all kinds lol
Exactly. It's crazy how many people just go for the looks.
Great video. My wife and I are thinking of getting a dog and this vid has really caused me to think hard and seriously about that responsibility. We're in our mid 70's, not too sedentary but certainly not as active as years ago, and are thinking of getting a Golden. Honestly, what do you think of that choice? Thanks much.
Do a list of lifestyles for all of the popular breeds.
Agreed! That would be very useful as a general guide!
I could watch 15 hrs of demonstrations on your channel. I love your training ideologies when it comes to dogs. I think what's missing is seeing a variety of dogs that don't start off as model citizens before they enter your property. The last video was 5 years ago of a reactive dog. Most of us who live in the suburbs/city and don't have a course/open nature on a day to day basis, its door open and then a concrete pavement, maybe a backyard/dogpark, adventures on a weekend. So seeing a trainer mimic a similar scenario but uses the yank and pull method might look very appealing to a viewer, because people will believe they can do it too in that same environment. i.e Seeing a trainer demonstrate in a typical suburban park with a reactive dog, people relate to it more and will follow whatever the trainer used to make the dog stop it's reaction even if its unethical. Maybe more demonstrations on what would set up a dog up for success? I think it could benefit the public and dogs in general.
Wait ✋️, is this a dog channel? I was watching it for people advice......🤣🤣
Thanks for the video- all the best!
You are so right! My ex bought a GSP when he's in his mid sixties. Disaster! He hires me take Buddy out to wilderness areas to run. I've lost him several times and even with an ecollar, it's a challenge in the Atlanta area. I use a lot of techniques to manage Buddy. We love him so we try our best!
@Testme345 sounds like bs
This was one of the best videos. Question I take my lab on adventures as much as I can and everyday he barks in the car for excitement. Any suggestions
🇮🇪 very good information,
❤Yes please do more videos showing training on leash. Janice
Thank you for your channel. I have an english lab, best dog ever. Gets along with everything. But..... she is terrified of fireworks, and gunshots. Full on paninic. I placed her in a home with another dog every 4th of July so she can mirror the chill dog vibe. Thunder shirts never worked. I got her at a year old, she was like that when I got her. I got her use to vacuums and blenders with calm energy and treats. But the fireworks send her over the edge on shaking. I just try to talk calm, have her in a room that is as far from the noise as I can. Any videos on this????