TØP: FOREST MEANING IS SO DEEP!
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What do you guys think "Forest" by Twenty One Pilots is about? In this video, I explain the meaning of these lyrics and help you to understand them even better!
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blurryface links in with this - squinting your eyes makes things blurry -not what you are supposed to see, blurryface set his treehouse in fire, - bothered by the same name (“blurryface”)
@@notmyonlyfriend gøner more like cømer
i mean this unironically: do coconut cocunut sharks in the water.
so deep
Auram's Production Value you speak lies
Auram's Production Value so deep
I actually have no idea what it means. Could make a special project.
I'm so surprised at how many upvotes this has. Hopefully on a future video.
Oh come on my dude, we all know the meaning,
Tyler likes ice cream.
First time i listen to the song i thought the same thing
What the f are y’all talking about?
@@lasttroll2513 idk
@@lasttroll2513 "I scream, you scream
We all scream 'cause we're terrified"
hey clique scrolling through the comments
Coral Weston sup
Hi, I'm one year late, but... Better Late than nevER
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"Does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name?" I think the "someone else" is himself. Who he has become over time is so different from who he used to be as a child that he seems like a different person now. It bothers him because it's disorienting. This interpretation fits in with the rest of the song.
agree.. always wen I hear it I think of another Tyler setting next to hem like a Schizo character
Wow I never thought of that! I've
always interpreted it like a fear of actually never being unique in this world, that he is scared of just being "another person" and that it's uncomfortable.
It was me! Thank you. Haha. Maybe next week we could hear the explanation to TB Saga? 😂
Haha! Nice suggestion. Thanks for joining me on Patreon!
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PizzaIsLif3 YT FOOD LIKE THIS COULD ONLY COME FROM ABOVE!!!
lt NACHO BELL GRANDE, CHEESY GORDITA!!
I LIKE YOUR NACHOS LIKE DIARRHEA
"the rain" Tyler says.
Josh nods, slowly
"it's like..." Tyler pauses, searching for the word.
"crisper," Josh says.
exactly Tyler says, nodding.
"almost like..." Josh frowns "red? maybe?"
"mostly," Tyler says. "with a hint of orange"
"orange, right." Josh points at Tyler. "that's right. I keep forgetting that one"
"a lot of things are orange, though," Tyler says frowning.
"Not where I'm from" Josh says darkly. "everything's just blue-black there".....
we're broken people Y U DO DIS????
Stop
T-E-R-E-F-I-E-D
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Emelie Ruby shut the fuck up.
Ruby and Fake You Out?
!!!
Two songs at once? Crazy stuff.
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p hEY WHATS UP BUDDY
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p
I SEE U *E V E R Y W H E R E*
Fake you out
Hi!
ok, so I think that the forest is not actually a forest (?), what I mean is that the forest for me is a place in his mind, a place in the mind of all the people that he's talking about, like a safe place where there's no problems or stress, where he doesn't really need to be concerned about anything. When he sings about being afraid of "what's around the corner", I thinks he's talking about real life, the life of an adult that is responsable of the things he do, he doesn't want to be there so he goes to the fores, the safe place, where he's just happily dancing and singing without any concern. In the verses he is trying to express what is going on inside his head and he wants it to stop.
I think the bridge is the most important part. When he "squint his eyes" he finds himself in the real life and realise that he had already ruined everything, and he is RESPONSABLE for that ("my treehouse is on fire and for some reason I smell gas on my hands"), he also compares himself with a kid, a kid that should be happy insted of concerned about this things.
That's it, I think i didn't forgot anything
(Sorry if anything is wrongly formulated, I speak spanish, I'm learning english)
I think the fact that he did also call a video on their youtube channel, where he was singing forest, "Forrest" (=for rest) supports your theory
Ruby!!! I won't give up!!! :D
I vote for "Ruby" too!
The Pop Song Professor Also i like to think that forest is about becoming a community in a world wich is obsessed with individuality. ("does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name") I think everyone is afraid of not being "special" enough and it can be really frustrating sometimes. It's kind of like an anthem i think :)
Bekaheartsyou yes yes yes yes yes
Bekaheartsyou yes!!!
Ruby is about a little girl from Tyler's church who had Down syndrome
Glowing eyes
jolaine2312 yes plssssss
There is a "Glowing Eyes" podcast available for patrons on my Patreon if you can't wait!
I would also like to know the meaning of Glowing Eyes.
If you get impatient, I did a podcast about it on my Patreon! $2 gets you Glowing Eyes and more to come! But I'm sure it'll happen here at some point too. :)
No worries. :) It'll eventually be on this channel. :)
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p yEy it's my fave
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p I thought everyone knew the meaning of ruby
I think that the I scream you scream part represents his childhood when kids would usually say ice cream, but he’s almost and adult so he is terrified for what will happen next, or around the corner.
Thanks for watching, everyone! Let me know what you think next week's TOP song should be. :)
Air Catcher please!
Thanks for the video. :)
The Pop Song Professor thx for the vid! You've GOT to do Ruby sometime! Please!!!!!
The Pop Song Professor i would lpve for you to do glowing eyes or air catcher please!!!
The Pop Song Professor did you see my comment? I'd love to hear if you had any thoughts on my theory :)
Ruby. Clear. Drown. Taken by sleep. HeavyDirtySoul. Trapdoor. Migraine. PLEASE DO AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE!!👍🏻😬
I think Ruby is winning.
YESSSS!! Oh... I forgot one, Glowing Eyes. Is that on the up vote/ future vid list?
It definitely is. But we decide them each week in the comments on the most recent vid. But Glowing Eyes is available on my Patreon. :)
The Pop Song Professor I would support your patron but I am literally just going into 7 grade lol
okay don't quote me on this but this kind of sounds like when in the bible the church was in the room and they started speaking tounges and everyone was thinking the same thing but speaking different languages, but they were not really speaking an actual languages which in the song refers to it as "singing songs that nobody wrote and then they began to be consumed by the fire which did not burn them and they began to worship referring to "hands held higher"
Air Catcher next!
Yess!!!
the pantaloon
General Stievous what song is that? it's not twenty one pilots
Zaribae yes it is
ZariBae yes it is it's on self titled
Aloosha Alselami I've gone through all the songs and it ain't there
it is the third song from their self-titled album
Be concerned or glowing eyes
I just did a BTS podcast about Glowing Eyes on my Patreon. If you join, you can get it!
Those r my 2 favorite tøp songs
the run an go please!
i feel T-E-R-R-I-F-I-E-D
no. just no.
I wAS HOPING NOT TO FIND ANY REFERENCES
:(
Did you just
*crys*
fOreSt FiC
T-E-R-R-I-F-I-E-D
NO
please do clear sometime :)
YESS
clear is deeeeep
JOSH DUN my favourite ❤️️
but the meaning of clear is... clear :D
another really great video! for some odd reason, Everytime the lyrics get way darker and deeper, they seem to resonate and cause emotions and thoughts to pop up in my head the most.
That's the power of TOP!
I love this song so much. To me, it's all about how we are trapped in this forest and the "we" referred to in the chorus are the inmates, the rest of the world who are trapped with them and are lastly ignorant though all of them feel like something is wrong, but refuse to talk about it, and that's the chorus where they're singing songs that everyone knows but nobody wrote. The bridge is my favourite part since it zooms in a bit on this one person who seems to be taken over by the lack of freedom and is going crazy over it, so much that their trying to burn down the past and what was supposed to be, but still there's a storm coming and no one is safe. Finally, the part about someone else sharing your name just emphasises how there can be no complete individuality since society has long taken that away from us. In total, it's just truly beautiful.
Please do Trapdoor next!
DarkEchoes yes!!
Ruby!!!!!!!
its about someone in his church that has down sindrum (i relize that this comment is like a year)
Yesss that pfp
My opinion:
I think the link between the two ideas going on in the song is that as fans start really listening to their songs they realize that they have grown up. That the reason they are feeling the way that they are is that they are no longer a kid. You also simultaneously allow childhood to be destroyed cause there is a new lack of ignorance . You can no longer ignore the fact that you are growing up because their music has woken you up from that blissful oblivian. By opening yourself up to maturity you have brurned down your tree house. And we are all doing this together. Wether it is because of twenty one pilots, or work or the internet certain things can take you away and force you to destroy your child hood. With this being said, there is no shade being thrown at TOP because they allow you to know what is happened when you loose childhood and make you aware of how you are growing up, and they allow you to say goodbye and to mourn your loss. Other things that pull you away don't allow you to do so. They only pull you out of child hood they don't wake you up. This group of people Tyler is talking about in the song is the group of the people who have been woken up. They all sing the same song mourning the loss of their child self. Tyler feels bad because his hands are covered in gas because not only did he burn down his treehouse he supplied gasoline for everyone else who listened to him. He didn't plan to tell them what he had done and how to do it themselves.
If you made it to the end of this very long paragraph thank you very much. And stay alive |-/
I really like this type of videos but am I the only one that like to listen to a song and take it to his own place? like When I listen to "holding on to you" I dont think about holding on to god, I think about holding on to tøp and to this music and to life because this is what I need to hold on to, to life and not to let go or give up... And I really like that every different person that listen to a song can hear a different meaning...
the bible talks about tongues of fire and and languages nobody knows but everybody understands and things of such that tyler relates to in the song. i believe tyler is talking about being terrified of life just like the rest of us but we have to think of something better to move on. I think his way of thinking of something better is thinking of how in the end he gets to go to heaven with the rest of the believers. I think the forest represents heaven. he talks about hands held higher and I think this refers to praising God. there is a lot of direct terminology in forest that would lead me to believe he is quoting from the Bible. anyway that's my thoughts on it. I loved this video by the way ;)
I love your channel my dude! You put so much effort into your videos and it really shows! So thanks!
Very impressed with your interpretations, I actually got excited as you started to suggest the same thoughts I was having as I listened to you explain, and I think that it’s something special to have a reliable resource like your channel for interpretations that are probably among most reliable and possibly accurate I’ve ever heard. Thanks guy. Gentlemanly clothing style as well, kudos.
You are the only video that’s ever kept me from pressing fast forward to the next twenty one pilot song on my constantly streaming playlist 😜 great job kid!
The first time I heard this song I immediately loved it! I find the melody very pretty and the bridge is just incredible! Now that you have explained it I love it even more, thank you ^^
(Please, Ruby !!!!)
I really liked hearing your perspective on the song, so I'll have to think on it further to figure out what I really think. But this is what I had thought before, just as a random idea, I guess.
Personally I had always heard this song and thought of it as a sort of contrast between the struggles of this world, compared to the joys of heaven. I hear the pre-chorus and think of people being terrified as they consider the future, what lies ahead maybe even after death.
Then the chorus is a celebration, being in heaven in the presence of God and celebrating with a crowd of people who share your faith and your joy.
The verses I thought were just about life and struggling with living now, but holding onto the hope of something better.
And then the bridge I thought was the same kind of thing. Especially when he says 'This is not what you're supposed to see...I am supposed to be king of a kingdom..." I think of living now, but remembering that there is more meant for us than just this life.
There's more to it than just that, but that's just a quick summary of what I've always thought Forest was about. I'm not saying that I'm right, and I was really fascinated by the points you brought up (I'll have to listen to the song more, I guess). But I'd love to hear what you think about this, and maybe why you think it's more clearly about something different (what you discussed in the video).
Anyway, sorry for the long comment. Thanks for making this video, though! It was really cool :)
I like your thoughts on this. I had a similar line of thought. I always thought the chorus sounded like a worship service, singing hymns to God. And that that is our way of getting away from the worries of the world for a bit and thinking of something better. From what I know about the church Tyler went to I think they are probably a raise your hands in the air while singing kind of place :P We don't at my church but I have been to ones that do. And the being on fire would be being on fire for God, that passion for Him.
I love this song and I love the sense of community the chorus conveys. We are not in this alone, let's all go sing about it together.
Jaylen Connors i also thought the chorus was about people worshipping 'hands held higher ' and ' we'll be on fire as in like passion for Christ.
Thanks for the thoughts, Jaylen. I think there's definitely an intended contrast there. I wonder if the good side of the contrast is Heaven or my theory, but I think there's something to be said for both sides. At the very least, if my theory is right, that gathering is good because it's a small picture of what Heaven will be like. It's powerful because it's Heaven-like.
Jaylen Connors I think ty is reaching out to people to show them a place where we can find happiness (chorus) and in the bridge I think he means he looks at something and then thinks he is shaping it into something it isn't and then he wants to make himself look at things like he is in control but he can't because his childhood imagination is shaped into his current imagination
This is the first video by you I've ever seen and I'm stunned.... Forest has always been my favorite TOP song, but I never quite thought of it like this. Thanks so much, and I have subscribed, so please keep doing what you're doing! 😄
Thanks for your support and for joining!
everything's blue-black
No
ITS TIME TO STOP 😭
Scuse me could you please leave
I definitely relate to this song
Thanks a lot for the explanation!
Hey, I just discovered your channel and it is right up my alley! I’ve seen your video about The Ballad of Mona Lisa and This Is Gospel, and the one about Mania by Fall Out Boy, and I saw that you did videos on My Chemical Romance and Twenty One Pilots.
So what I want to tell you about is All Time Low. This band is another alternative rock one and has amazing lyrics. I would love to see your view on Missing You, All I Ever Wanted (Me Without you), Drugs And Candy, and just All Time Low in general.
Lastly, I have come to adore Lovely by Twenty One Pilots, as it is an amazing song that makes you all happy inside. And a Big Thank You to every video you have ever made, as I will, however selectively, binge your channel. Thank you so much for doing this!
Bravo. You made a lot more sense out of this song than I've ever been able to. It always felt like it was comprised of fragmented word pictures rather than a cohesive, governing idea.
Glad to help! And I agree with you. It really is fragmented.
Implicit Demand For Proof would be great ;)
NSPLG i love that song soooo much
Love that one!
NSPLG if you listen to the lyrics he talking about God
when i was younger, back when i just started listening to twenty one pilots, this was my favorite song. so this song will always have a special place in my heart. it was the first so g i could relate to as well
Clear
the one dislike is tyler's treehouse (sorry if i stole someone's comment i haven't went through the comments yet)
Casually stumbled upon these videos and now I can’t stop binge watching them
Like before watching.
Worth it! !!!!
We don't believe what's on tv pleaseee!!
Nagham Baŗçałonistå it's about his concern that if he did not become what he has, would his friends still be supporting him and also it refers to his love (Jenna) and how he doesn't care what situations they get in, he will still make it work
Quatro good explanation and I think this song has a lot of meanings which can all be true but I think it's about songs nowadays that are all sound the same and that's why we don't believe them, and Tyler tries with his music to create songs more realistic and thoughtful "if you stick around i'll sing you pretty sound"
I need to know what he thinks it's about
Nagham Baŗçałonistå he did it
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A.K.A the first letter in the lyrics for W.D.B.W.O.T. lol
slapensee2 Cool! xd
do clear
A really good one. And the alarm on my phone.
thanks :)
0 dislikes on video WOW!!!
you put my interpretation into words. also, DO FRIGGIN AIR CATCHER OR SO HELP ME I WILL KICK A GOAT
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That Singer Elias plz don't kick a goat
dont let the goat be scotch
Please have mercy on the goat!
The goat will be spared if air catcher shows up. Hehehe /is diabolical/
I think the song is a contrast between finding hope on earth and finding hope in heaven. In the original video for Forest, the title is spelled "Forrest" or For Rest. The singing songs nobody wrote points to a future hope for Christians, singing a "New Song" like it says in Revelation where our ultimate rest will be after this life is over. The new song will be the song nobody wrote, because it's from God or angels, not of human origin.
He is struggling with his emotions and thoughts, lamenting the death of his childhood hopes and dreams for his life and his poisoned thoughts. He realizes his ultimate hope is in heaven, not in the things he adores on earth, which do not bring ultimate hope, and that he has damaged himself by what he's done. Instead of being terrified of the future, we can look to our ultimate hope of heaven.
We'll be on fire with our hands raised, singing and worshiping God. We will be on fire from the Spirit of God and being truly alive.
THIS WAS SO GOOD I LOVE THIS
Glad you like it!
What if there's like a timeline, or a story from RAB to Vessel? For exampleMaybe Forest takes place before Trees,Forest is about people gathering and trying to help each other with their struggles Maybe it's somewhat like a concert but in a forest, but not exactly a professional one I guess.Then, Trees comes next, possibly much later,Maybe someone who was at the gathering/concert comes back to where Forest was sung, in some sort of empty, forested area. The person is struggling and wants to commit suicide, but then they're reminded of the concert, so they go back to the forest. While they're walking, they start to think back to what happened, and almost recreate the moment. They imagine themselves back there ("I can feel your breath"), then they realize that they can't recreate the moment and have deeper thoughts ("I can feel my death"). Next, "I want to know you, I want to see, I want to say 'hello'". This maybe means they wish they could go back but they can't. I don't know it's just an idea.
this is my favorite song, thank you!
You're welcome!
Could you do Air Catcher next? Thanks for explanation on this song! Actually understanding what the song is about makes it so much better to listen to!
Earned a suscriber. Great analysis.
Welcome!
I think the forest is “outside” in guns for hands. “well breathe together to the beat” would be the song that the chorus is coming from “well all join hands” “hands held higher” also shows this.
Wow I relate to this song even more. So so deep.
Thank you for looking at this song, it's my favourite by TOP
Forest is my FAVORITE song!!!! I'm so excited :D
The pantalooon please
You deserve wayyy more subscribers!
Ah, thanks!
This is awesome! I didn't think as much about the connection to Trees, that's interesting. I tend to connect this song to Stressed Out because they're both kind of escapist, nostalgic, and include references to tree houses and childhood. So yeah. :)
On Vessel and RAB I think Tyler relates his own personal struggles to biblical narratives. In Forest he seems to be telling the story of Adam and Eve, especially because: "I took some food for thought, It might be poisoned." The Forest then would represent the Garden of Eden, and the song of suffering that everyone sings together is the experience of sin. I think this theory is backed up by the rap which is like Adam talking to God. "I'm supposed to be king of a kingdom swinging on a swing," which I take to mean that he's meant to be innocent and childlike to rule the garden. But he goes on to say "my treehouse is on fire and for some reason I smell gas on my hands" meaning he's burned his place with God through sin. Trees in their music tend to represent God or his presence, so it makes sense that Eden, which was full with God's presence, would be represented by a forest full of trees. I think this song is meant to convey guilt Tyler feels for committing sin, basically saying that he feels just as responsible as Adam for bringing sin into the world. I also think of Goner and Trees in this context, Goner being Adam speaking and Trees being the voice of God searching for Adam in the garden.
To me, this "answer" would be happiness. Some of his other songs also share this hope for happiness, especially ones like Lovely and Guns For Hands. Tyler mostly talks about his depressed, anxious, less fortunate members of the clique, to give them hope & let them realize it will get better. Tyler really understands the troubles that everyone has, and he's a really great song writer.
"i dont wanna be heard, i wanna be listened to" I feel can be referring to when youre trying to explain something and someone dismisses you and goes "i hear you man" and blows you off. i dont want you to hear, i want you to be there and listen to me. And i feel that he connects this song to everyone else in the forest by "does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name?" because all of these people are going through similar things and how can we all be individual and special if we are all doing or are named the same thing. In the bridge where Tyler talks about how if he looks to hard things dont look how they should refers to everyone. Like anyone can look too close and see the wrong side or the "truth" about everything, and he does that with himself too. I think wen he says "This is not what youre supposed to see,please, remember me i am supposed to be..." is like him saying to himself, that he really isnt where he want to be in life, he doesnt look at how he burnt down his treehouse, but he has gas on his hands. so he knows that he did it, but he doesnt know how he got there even though he looks so close at things. I've thought about this before but i think its possible that the "hands held higher, we'll be on fire" may open up for the bridge where Tyler says that his tree house is on fire and he smells gas on his hands. I feel that he did that to connect this song to trees because he burnt down his tree house on his own, but all of the other people in this forest have done that to their own tree house as well. im just pulling at straws here, but this is what i thought.
I really like your channel, do you think you could try identifying what "Oh Miss Believer is about?
the 13 dislikes are people who got to excited and clicked the wrong button
lol probably!
Did anyone notice how when he says "we sing a chorus" he could be talking about Trees, as Trees is literally one verse, or chorus, over and over?
forest is one of my favourite songs ever
congrats on 2k
Thanks!
can you do glowing eyes? its one of my favorites
I hope it gets voted for! If you're impatient, there's a podcast about it on my Patreon: www.patreon.com/ThePopSongProfessor
this is personally one of my favorite songs by twentyonepilots. it’s weird... it doesn’t really makes sense, yet it makes perfect sense. i feel like i can relate to it.
The chorus is a beautiful picture of heaven. The Forest is heaven (obviously). Especially the "hands held higher, we'll be on fire" part. That is something that is very common thought in the Christian community about heaven. "Singing songs that nobody wrote" is also a great picture of heaven. Heaven is a place where (as boring as it sounds for us on Earth) we all sing praises and worship God for eternity, singing songs that no one wrote.
I think forest is about how everyone is different ( expressed in the line: "Does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name") but everyone is equal (Expressed in the chorus) and they're all in peace.
o ms believer PLEASE
"Someone else has your name" - I think that "someone else" is yourself - at a different stage of your life. You have the same name but find that you are a 'different person' than you were before and it is disorienting that you can chage so much that you seem to be a different person and disconnected from who you were before. That interpretation is related to a lot of the rest of the song too.
You should really do air catcher next!!!
Josh isn't real, remember?
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I honestly love the song Forest. I drew a drawing about the chorus, actually. I drew a group of people who seem to have problems (anorexic, self-harmer, etc.) with their hands up, singing their songs happily with tears in their eyes. While these people are singing, the forest around them starts to burn/be on fire and they don't care. You can interpret it however you want, but thats how i interpret it.
Anyway, nice video. Thanks for making this :D I love it
the forest fic
im crying now
"Down in the forest, we'll sing a chorus, one that everybody knows" - This suggests a mood of unification amongst the group of people.
"Hands held higher, we'll be on fire" - I interpret this as symbolizing a revival amongst the group of people who have come to the Forest in search of something / being filled with the Holy Spirit - similar to the disciples in the upper room, mentioned in Acts.
"Singing songs that nobody wrote" - singing and speaking spontaneous songs and tongues - "everybody knows" the words as mentioned earlier, despite the songs being completely spontaneous. This unifies the group of people even more.
The verses describe the every day struggles people face and the flaws we all have. While the choruses are hopeful and provide direction to the listener.
I feel that Forest is a message of encouragement to people to seek out God genuinely, in a new non religious way. The image it creates in my mind is a large group of people worshiping God together in a non conventional way.
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When I listen to the song, I associate the "forest" to a crowd or general public. It ties in to the recurring theme throughout the song of having no individuality - "Does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name?". For instance, "we stay in place cause we don't want to lose our lives" presents the notion of being afraid to stand out from the crowd or perhaps changing so much that you become another person from what you used to be -to be an oak in a pine forest is scary. In relation to the chorus, being "down in the forest" would set the person in a collective group. As said in the video, the people are all "singing" something together in unison - something "everybody knows" and something "nobody wrote". For me, that meant that they were all unified by something that had no limits - nobody wrote it, they're free to go as they please and because everybody knows it, they feel safe. The fire mentioned could be a symbol of the passion and strength that these people now have from not being constrained. With this general idea, the same theme could relate to "Trees" with the trees being individual people and also fits with the albums "self identity" focus.
the reason bonus tracks like lovely, forest, kitchen sink, and other regional at best songs was because when tyler and josh signed to fueled by ramen, the idea was to make tracks from rab into a major album debut thing. instead of signing over specific songs, they just signed over the whole album. tyler secured the copyright for self-titled under his band name.
Please do Hometown!!!!! During the concert its the song Tyler did a disappearing act and it makes me feel like they try very hard and i respect and appreciate that 😭❤️
It sounds like he is on about the whole thing of going to church. Here's my summary:
V1
I don't know why I feed on emotion
There's a stomach inside my brain - That feeling that you get from worshipping, can be really profound and leaves you wanting more
I don't want to be heard
I want to be listened to
Does it bother anyone else
That someone else has your name?
Does it bother anyone else
That someone else has your name? Your name - Referencing the Lamb's book of life
P-C
I scream, you scream
We all scream 'cause we're terrified
Of what's around the corner - We're all frightened of death and what comes after
We stay in place
'Cause we don't want to lose our lives - Abiding by God's will for fear of if we don't
So let's think of something better
C
Down in the forest we'll sing a chorus
One that everybody knows - Signing well-known worship songs together at church
Hands held higher, we'll be on fire - Hands raised in worship, fire either meaning on fire for God or using tongues
Singing songs that nobody wrote - All worship songs in essence are God-breathed and written by God ie no human came up with them in effect
V2
My brain has given up
White flags are hoisted - Surrendering to God
I took some food for thought
It might be poisoned - Taking communion, The Bible says that if you approach the table without forgiveness, you eat and drink damnation on yourself
The stomach in my brain
Throws up on to the page - Reading the Bible, or more aptly, the Bible reading you - or maybe Tyler just on about writing his emotions
Does it bother anyone else
That someone else has your name?
Does it bother anyone else
That someone else has your name?
B
Quickly moving towards a storm
Moving forward, torn
Into pieces over reasons
Of what these storms are for - When you walk with God, you walk through storms - what are these storms for?
I don't understand why everything I adore
Takes a different form when I squint my eyes - Closing eyes in prayer, reflection that your Earthly desires are ultimately meaningless when you go to the grave
Have you ever done that
When you squint your eyes
And your eyelashes make it look a little not right
And then when just enough light
Comes from just the right side
And you find you're not who you're suppose to be? - Realising that you're not fully walking the path that God intended you to
This is not what you're suppose to see - Not what the world says is the right way to live
Please, remember me? I am suppose to be
King of a kingdom or swinging on a swing - What's my purpose, God?
Something happened to my imagination
This situation's becoming dire - realising the life you are living isn't great
My treehouse is on fire
And for some reason I smell gas on my hands - Your actions are the architect of your own downfall for the temporary house you built
This is not what I had planned
This is not what I had planned
Thoughts?
The run and go next please!!
Another thing I'd like to point out about this song is that when I hear it, I feel like Tyler's also talking about how his imagination, his creativity, his world-view essentially, have become poisoned; it's like when he tries to understand things better, to think about them deeply, his brain gets a nightmarish filter that makes everything seem unnatural and terrifying and WRONG, or he only focuses on what's wrong about things and can't get past it, and he's tired of trying to understand things because his introspection always goes goes wrong in some way, leading to him destroying things or twisting his perception of those things until they scare him (I think the tree-house represents his sanity, his hope, or just things he cares about) even though he intends it to help him understand the world better. I know that might be a stretch and kind of complicated, but that's the vibe I get; that's kind of how I perceive the song based on the struggles I myself go through.
Holding on to you!
Wow. The meaning of this song is intense!!!
Does anyone else just have this feeling to just talk to Tyler about the meanings of at least one of their songs? Like I just want to sit with Tyler and have him just tell me the meaning to the song, and the story behind it, and it's just between us. Only me and Tyler know, and then THAT one song is one of the most special songs to me. Ya know?
Gosh, so deep. O M G
Btw "trees" was on the album "No Phun Intended" which is Tyler Joseph's 2007 solo album then regional at best and then vessel
I’ve always interpreted the concert you referred to as heaven. Once we get to heaven, we will be surrounded by other believers singing praises to God. Our hands will be held high, in praise, we’ll be on fire, referring to passion, singing songs that nobody wrote, referring to how we will all be singing the same praises regardless of language barrier, similar to how speaking in tongues was in Scripture. Hope this helps!
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This is why my fav song is Forest
yes they added the rab version to vessel as a bonus track, however they didnt re-record it. lovely was the only re-recorded bonus track
here are the song's definition's i do understand
Ruby:A song about a girl, whose name is Ruby, who has down symdrome who goes to Tyler's church
Guns For Hands:Tyler asked his fans, or the clique,and they all said that the music keeps them from doing self-harm or killing themselves
Friend,Please:Tyler is asking a person to NOT take their life away from him, the song is presumbably the song Tyler is singing to the person he said he would sing a song to in "Taken By Sleep"
Tear In My Heart:A song Tyler wrote to his wife, Jenna
Kitchen Sink:Tyler DOES NOT want people to leave him alone, despite him repeating it, hence why near the end, he almost yells "DON'T LEAVE ME ALONE!"
Lovely:Tyler wants to make somebody to believe they are lovely
Ode To Sleep:Tyler feels nice in the morning, but later, BlurryFace, despite him NOT being in the album,makes him feel worse
Goner (2012):Tyler looses to BlurryFace
Goner (2015):Tyler defeats BlurryFace
Stressed Out:Tyler feels nostalgic
Johnny Boy:Johnny is the type of boy people walk all over..and Tyler decides to make him feel better, like he has meaning
What I think... That as he later realises that he himself is the destructor of his own peace, of his own innocence, that even after being amidst the crowd he's still an individual being. In the verse "Down in the forest, we'll sing in chorus.... We'll be on fire, singing a song that nobody wrote" (something of that sort I'm not amazingly familiar to the lyrics right now) Maybe, he means that yes, the crowd, the chorus yearns for peace, and we'll pray or sing in chorus a song that everyone knows. But deep down, the trees of that forest, that is the individual in that crowd, also says that he'll, along with the chorus, is asking for individual peace as well. I mean, yes, I know you didn't understand. That while singing prayers with the chorus, the song that everyone knows, I also sing the song that nobody knows. That nobody wrote, but me. That nobody lived in that song but me. And the song symbolises life. So he'll also sing for the life he's written and nobody else. So maybe the "We'll be on fire, singing the song nobody wrote" means this. Does this make sense now? I hope so...
Fall away and lovely
I believe the chorus means something different related to God.
“Down in the Forest” is actually in the church.
“We‘ll sing a chorus one that everybody knows” refers to the people in the church singing together.
“Hands held higher” is putting your hands in the air to worship God.
“We’ll be on fire” is having the Holy Spirit fill you up.
“Singing songs that nobody wrote” refers to when the Holy Spirit fills everyone in the church up sometimes they start to sing a song and everyone joins along but it was never written before. I’ve seen it happen and it is amazing.
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