Lestat is bi-sexual, however he is quoted as saying that he preferred men because they appeared much more interesting and exciting during his mortal days.
I look at Anne Rice's vampires as being more Sexually ambiguous. Yes, Louis and Lestat did have a relationship, but Lestat had many relationships with both men and women. Same with all of the other vampires in Anne Rice's universe.
Hell, Lestat's mother kissed him on the mouth multiple times after he had turned her. I don't think that's gay, it's an entirely other thing if the reader is trying to read between the lines. So I would agree with you here. The vampires in Ann Rices universe are sexually ambiguous, if even sexual at all.
I saw somewhere someone discussed Anne rice vampires are more pansexual bc as they age they care less about what’s between the others legs and more how the person makes them feel
I totally read the books as like Bro love, old school signs of affection, European kissing on cheek or forehead. Boy was I in for a surprise when I read them again as an adult lol .
Actually that isn't the case. Cause if that was true, people wouldn't label them as Gay, BI, or straight. If Sex had no meaning. Cause for one they do get involved with others.
@@VengeDracul I probably didn't word that as well as I could have, and I did say it was my impression of the books and characters, so telling me I'm straight wrong is kinda pointless. What I was trying to say is that the actual sex of anyone they found interesting or had feelings for didn't really matter. And I stand by that.
Don’t think they actually have sex because they are not human Affection and love of beauty men and women yes From what I remember it’s the passion of the ‘ blood kisses ‘ with mortals For example in book 2 lestat Armand always just watched Daniel In the act Like I said they aren’t human but appreciate and can be passionate for beauty in all forms
@@bmad8870 I don't think the sexual orientation WAS changed, and I don't think the racial aspect is important. It's an excellent show in it's own right. It works, and if you watched it, you'd see why it works.
@@bmad8870 No, you're not wrong. He had sex with two women in Tale Of The Body Thief- he raped a woman, actually, then later he had a relationship with a nun.
You're correct. They appreciate the physical form of a person but it doesn't arouse them physically. Like the way a gay man can appreciate the beauty of a female. He adores & admires her beauty, but it does nothing to stimulate him to want to have sex with her. Except in Anne's world, the female vampires have no desire to have sex either --- with males OR females. But that lack of desire is because their bodies halt all normal functions the moment they're transformed by "The Dark Gift 🎁 🩸." That's why they stay physically --- and to some degree psychology --- "stuck" at the age they were at the time of their turning. There body doesn't produce anymore hormones, so without sex hormones being produced, they are actually physically INCAPABLE of being aroused. But they still crave companionship & someone to converse with & someone to do social activities with. It's kind of like elderly people, who once they get to a certain age, they really don't care about companionship for the purpose of having sex, but a heart 💞 connection with another person to ward off the loneliness. Also, when you take sex out of the equation, males & females tend to stick to their own gender for companionship ---- except MOST EFFEMINATE gay men cuz we get along with females swimmingly BECAUSE sex is not involved & we don't feel pressured 2B macho like we do when we're around other men. You ever noticed in the Animal Kingdom, male animals tend to fraternize with other males most of the time until it's time to mate --- same thing with the females. I see this all the time with the ducks in my neighborhood. You also see it in lions if you watch nature shows. PLUS, most of the vampires that the chronicles center around are ancient & came from times where pansexuality or homosexuality was commonplace & practiced openly, i.e. Marius came from ancient Rome, hence his relationship with a 15yo Amadeo/Armand. Though he did have a relationship with Pandora for centuries. Lestat & Louis are the youngest vampires from the main cast of Anne's characters, but they still are 200 yrs before our present time (the 20th century), so social mores weren't so strict around sexuality --- even back then, though not as loose as in Marius' time.
I agree, they aren’t human. Fans really deserve a true telling of the books with a great director, producer, innovative film studio and budget to back it. But Honestly most film remakes have been a let down in so many ways in general so I wasn’t surprised this one felt sub par imho
@@mysteryfan28 I agree, who was Gabriel? Gabrielle was his mother in The Vampire Lestat, so I'm guessing writing in a character named Gabriel in that book would have been super confusing. Even doing a Google search keeps pointing to Gabrielle. Who was Gabriel?
But honestly, what about the entire thing about the blood? Blood isn’t gender specific. The romanticism does exist in that alone which transcends gender.
The issues are, she had to restrict herself when writing and when working with them on the first book to movie because of ideas against homosexuality during that time. Her son talks about this now. There is a lot we didn't get that was in her head. If you want to know a book series she wrote uninhibited, check out her Beauty series under her pen name. She had quite the mind for sex and homosexuality as well as BDSM.
To add to @@heatherrenee8810comment (for anyone else reading this) - her pen name for the Beauty series is A.N. Roquelaure. She also wrote two novels under the pen name Anne Rampling: Belinda and Exit to Eden, the latter of which also contains BDSM elements and was also made into a movie in the 90s.
@@heatherrenee8810 her son talks about it, she never said that and had decades to correct herself. She had a FB page I read for YEARS. Her son says differently, who is gay. No motive there eh?
What I got out of the book was the vampires want to stay emotionally attached to someone to help imitate and keep up with the evolving world around them. So for me, they were really dead and stuck in time! Lesat loved his mother more than anything, and he said once he turned her into a vampire, she would not stay with him long! All of them drift apart over time because time moves different to them!
They are Not Gay. I am gay and there is nothing wrong with these characters not being sexual. Sensual, yes extremely. Vampires in this series lose all sexual desires and can't even use those body parts (at least for males vamps). Without sexual desires only companionship and comparability matters. They don't see something as trivial as race or sex. The TV series really did the characters a disservice by disregarding this part of the books.
The vampires aren't gay, they don't really see others as men or women, same sex or opposite. They can't even have sex. I think the gay community have adopted this idea that they are gay so they feel like they have something that's popular and of course Anne Rice knowing that many of her readers were gay would welcome them because she also only saw people as people not gay or straight. Queen of the Damned I never saw had any backlash over the Jesse thing, it was more about the fact they had no romantic connection in the books and of course how much they changed in the film. The show gay washed the characters a lot more than they were in the books. I wonder if they'll have the guts to bring Lestat and Rowan Mayfair together when the time comes. I mean eventually that's broken off but it does happen as Lestat found her interesting. Now I have no issue with how the show is portraying them but I do get annoyed when others tell me I'm wrong because it's noted in the books that they don't care about gender or race as they are above all that.
QotD was just bad, and the Jesse Lestat thing was weird. Aaliya was the only good thing about that movie. Oh, and Armand. That's the closest to book accurate they've gotten for him.
@@S.D._777_ Armand wasn't even named in the film lol. Aaliyah was sultry for sure, still not how she was described but pretty good Stuart Townsend wasn't a terrible Lestat but he's no Ton Cruise or Sam Reid. I can't wait for us to see the true Lestat next season as we've only gotten Louis, Claudia & Armand's point of view
From TV series? MW TV series sucks so bad. Hope they don't crossover. Iwtv creator already said their series will focus on Louis and Lestat relationship.
I feel like Anne Rice processing her feelings about her Catholic upbringing have a lot to do with her novels. Claudia and Louis both represent her grief, and Louis' anger when he enters the church and finds the Eucharist is one if several times where Rice struggles with her faith. Having queer coded characters and characters in taboo intimate relationships (Louis and Claudia), Rice is rejecting Christian sexual mores.
Rice's son was gay. She wasn't happy the Catholicism views the act of homosexuality as a sin. She was never able to reconcile a loving God with his condemnation of homosexual love.
In ANNE RICE'S book PANDORA the sexual part of the book explains that the male vampire can't get an erection as the vampire body is dead. Not all vampires are gay
I've always looked at vampires, even beyond Anne Rices works, as pansexual or asexual. They want to feed, to sustain, they might have preferences as we do for food but they don't discriminate based on gender or sex. The end goal is to feed. I always viewed vampire sexuality as part of the ritual of feeding. Lust + preying + pursuing just part of the dance, aside from the companionship aspects. I think most of Anne Rices vampires leaning homosexual/pansexual justs adds to the forbiddenness of her works at the time. Its was more taboo. Carnal cravings.
I agree. Also, as portrayed in her Sleeping Beauty series under her pen name Anne Roquelare (spelling?), she blurred the gender lines quite often. The books are about relinquishing all control to your sexual desire. So biological sex and gender preferences came down to what pleasure could be provided and nothing more.
The one thing, aside from the quality of Anne's writing, that drew me to the Vampire Chronicles was the fact that Rice's vampires were pan-amorous (or pansexual as might be nearer the mark given the erotic nature of the vampires' affections). As a gay man, I have been bombarded throughout my nearly four decades of life by hundreds of thousands of stories that centered (sometimes solely) on heterosexual couples. By my teenage years, I had tired of this. It was such a breath of fresh air to read stories about totally unapologetic homosexual relationships between multiple men. Furthermore, I consider seeing beauty in ALL people and being capable of falling in love with anyone of any gender or expression to be a human ideal. I wish we were all so unfettered. Thank you for covering this topic.
Yes!! I’m bi/pan and this is how I’ve always felt! I was always drawn to stories with gay/bi characters in my late tweens and teens but didn’t fully realize why until I hit my 20s lol. I’m also biracial so I love seeing that take included in the new IWV show. Representation matters!!
Author “It’s not about gender” Reasonable Human Being “but literally every single one is a gay dude. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it sure as hell isn’t an elephant”…
also, arent there simply more male vampires in her books? there arent really a ton of female vampires, and on top of that ones that get most of the spot light. you got the Queen, the twins, Claudia, and Pandora.. who else? and i mean bigger characters, not side ones.
Theyre really gay in the show lol but werent so gay in the books. In the books it was more of having a partner so they weren't alone for eternity. I dont remember reading about vampires hooking up with each other. The only sexual thing actually that i remember in the books was the vampires drinking each others blood. Seemed like a sexual experience for them. Vampires in the books weren't gay.
When you said about vampires atrac from something special in that person i think it's the same way when a human wanna find out something in another person, a confidant, a partner, protection, pleasure but in the vampires because of immortality, they incessantly search for something so as not to feel empty due to the longevity of humans
I am so glad you covered this topic. I was really hoping the TV show. They wouldn’t be gay, but it works and I absolutely love the show. I don’t know about the movie in 94 being a cinematic masterpiece. I didn’t really care for Tom Cruise as that but I adored Brad Pitt asLouie, and didn’t really care for Tom being listed either she really wanted Brad to be Lestat but it was good. Can’t wait for season three to see the stat as a rockstar and who will they cast as Akasha?
Just found your channel. Love this explanation- since I knew so little about Anne Rice, only knowing her writing through the books I had read. Thanks for inspiring me to reread the 3- and delving into the newer ones.
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Lestat was always bisexual, even during his human life. He also had a romance with Rowan Fielding from The Lives of the Mayfair Witches trilogy. Personally, I've always thought of Anne's vampires as more bisexual/pansexual. Did you mean Lestat and Antoine, rather than Lestat and Gabriel? As he wasn't ever with anyone called Gabriel. I think you may have gotten confused with Gabrielle.
Honestly, vampires can't really be "Gay" since those are human words. Doesn't really apply to supernatural beings since they aren't human and are matting with a completely different species. But that's my take, so whenever I see supernatural, undead beings etc and they have sexual relationships with the same "sex" (lets say) I think nothing of it and expect it in most writings of vampires because things like straight, gay, bi etc does not apply to supernatural beings. Those are human lables. But just my two sense. 🤷♀️
Honestly, my very first vampire Chronicles movie was Queen of the Damned (watched under the idea that it was a stand alone movie) and until watching your channel had no idea it was connected to the vampire Chronicles.i also didn’t know that most of Ann’s camps were gay until seeing this video. I knew at the very least Lestat and his friend were as in one of your videos you mentioned them being lovers, not friends
I was thinking the same. As a straight man, as much as I thought the show is great, I remember thinking how gay the vampires were and I thought that it’d be my preference to be turned by a woman. Just don’t know why vampires have to be so gay.
The first bisexual vampire was in The Vampyre, which was written in 1819 by John William Polidori and based on Lord Byron, who was bisexual. Anne Rice didn't invent bisexual or queer vampires, she was just carrying on a very long tradition.
God this irritates the hell out of me they aren't all gay they are attracted to each other's minds and their personalities because they can't have sex anymore. If tomorrow Louis woke up a girl it wouldn't change anything for his companions. People who think they are all gay really aren't paying attention in the books as well as seeing it for whatever they want to see not what is really there. I mean if Lestat is so gay why when in Tales book when he was briefly human did he have sex with a woman? The great part of the relationships to me was they were attracted to who each person really was not what parts they had. Ok end rant
In the Ann rice novels as a vampire all their body function are dead. A vampire can't eat piss or can't get hard all that is dead. Only blood counts. It's why lestat being intimate with is own mother or louis being intimate with Claudia who is a child. Lestat as a mortal was bi and continue to be as vampire. Louis as a mortal we don't know, but as a vampire was bi. Armand was turned very young like 16, and same bi. There is a lot of stories of character in Ann rice but liké i Say the fluid sexuality in vampire resides that technicaly they can't have sex and only blood counts
Louis was heterosexual as a mortal - he was married with a child. After his family died he began trawling local bars starting fights and engaging in other high risk behaviour, attracting Lestat's interests.
yup thats a prefect example of why this isn't about sex or sexuality... His mother for a time acted like his lover after he turned her. How come people don't understand the idea that vampires are no longer human and don't think or feel the same way humans do? They are not gay or bi or pdfs or incestual... None of that matters or is a thing anymore once they are turned.
I read these novels and her vampires cannot have sex and feel no physical drive to have sex. So lately I've been reading about all the sex in the novels and I'm a little confused by that. The only thing I can think of is by nature they seek out a companion from time to time, they absolutely adore beauty in all its forms including a beautiful mind. They experience something euphoric or orgasmic when they drink from Humans and each other along with a psychic experience giving them a lot of insight into the person they are drinking from. So maybe this is getting equated with sex? I don't know. Perhaps its subjective? I've no idea what Anne Rice's opinion has been on it other than she confirms they are not able to have sex but I'm sure surprised by all the talk. There IS sex in the books but its usually before they were turned or humans.
Lestat was bi. I think QotD wasn't straightwashing him, but only covered one half to his bi, that if there was a sequal, we would've seen him with Jesse sharing a guy together or having their own. Kind of like Brian and Justin in Queer as Folk. Not that's what happpened in the books cause it didn't, I'm just saying *IF*. My brother is gay and happily married but he's not a vampire fan, so he won't read the books or c the movies and show.
oh QotD was total straightwashing. The creators of the film specifically didn't want to feature any of that in their movie, that's why Louis is completely non-existent and Armand isn't even mentioned by name, and Marius doesn't even acknowledge Armand's existence in the film, aside from a deleted scene where Marius basically nods to him and that's that.
Yes it is what turned me off of her books. I’m heterosexual so that doesn’t interest me, I’m sure homosexuals aren’t too interested in heterosexual relationships. I don’t care how anyone lives their lives but, that just is not what I want out of entertainment.🤷🏼♀️
It is important to note that Lestat is not gay - he is bisexual and later in the book series he falls in love with a woman. There's a lot more in the books to heighten that her vampires are not all gay, nor all the majority but yes there are plenty of her vampires who do fall under the LGBTQIA umbrella. They're all mostly bisexual/pansexual by far more majority and that is central to the vampire ARC in using seduction and sexuality to find both companionship and sustenance in any available gender or orientation.
I see it’s as Anne put it, “I see love as love.” Her vampires were much more interested in what another individual made them feel emotionally, rather than sexually.
The theme is "forbidden love". Vampires embody all the ideas that are forbidden and unattainable unless you sacrifice your mortality: immortality, ageless, eternal youth, strength etc.
Yeah I kind of found that annoying… Not only is there a serious lack of female characters, the ones that do exist are like really awful and horrible. That to be honest I never actually read "gay relationship" into a lot of her vampire relationships. It's like people can't fathom the idea of two guys being close, loving one another, having moments of affection etc. without it being sexual. And I find that this is a very American attitude… They want to change everything into being a sexual relationship, whether it's men or women or men together or women together. It's like you can't have a close and loving relationship with somebody anymore without people accusing you of being in love with that person and a romantic way. And I think that's really sad.
Yes, they are, mostly because it's a major attraction not only for Anne but for the fandom, particularly the large female fanbase. Homoerotic relationships play a big role, and she knows it-heck, the fans know it. The number of heterosexual and bisexual women who enjoy consuming content centered around homoerotic relationships is significant and has played a major part in the series' popularity.
You also have to remember when the books were written and released. Her first release was was in 1976, right in the middle of the gay movement. She herself has said she felt like a gay man inside well before becoming a born again Christian. Although I think this a great video this has more to do with times times and Anne Rice grief more than anything. Also at this time she had lost her daughter Claudia. Let’s not forget. Moreover, the vampire chronicles started out as a short story years prior. Okay that’s enough of my two cents 😊
Vampires don’t have sexual relations like humans do (I don’t remember if male vampires can even get erect. Females could go through the motions I suppose but not much else.) their intimacy comes from sharing blood so the whole man/ woman thing doesn’t exist for them anymore. Lestat is and was Bisexual or pansexual where he has interest in both. (Quite frequently taking female victims) he also takes interest in the character Rowan Mayfair in the book blood canticles. But he also has affection for the character of Quinn before that. (If I remember properly that was in Blackwood farm) but his relationship with Quinn ends because he feels guilt about not being able to help him with his problem.
The irony in the Vampire Chronicles is that the undead are attracted to particular mortals but are unable to continue reading their thoughts telepathically after turning them into fledglings, creating a barrier between them.
Once they started drinking blood that replaced sex. Without the impulse for sex maybe people would be a bit more relaxed in who they chose as a companion. I mean look at all the guys who say they won't be friends with women unless there's a chance of sex. Without the stigma and need to have sex, I'd imagine they'd prefer another guy. Of course some of them were sorta gay before they turned. Lestat seems like an equal opportunist lover. I mean he had that thing with Gretchen
I would say it a general "trend" among female writers to focus more on the Romantic and Sexual side of Vampires and Male Writers like Stephen King, Del Toro or Martin prefer the horror/supernatural side.
I don’t mind it at all. It’s just that, if I’m reading this correctly from most people commenting on here, Lestat is Bi-sexual. Also, don’t forget (that’s if you already known or knew about it) that Anne Rice son, who is her second child, is Christopher Rice. Which, he is a gay writer in his own rights.
I think it's less about being gay or straight, but more about after centuries, you look for new things to experience. Human morality and ideas about Sexuality just don't matter when you're living through centuries.
It really is a problem. Way to many gay dudes for a vampire series. And I have a really good buddy who's gay so I have no problem with gays but god damn why so much of it
Jake the snake Robert’s talked about when he was in his prime his sexual exploits as a celebrity were so often and so extreme it always took more and more to do it for him, to give him a feeling of excitement. He said at the end he was doing some crazy stuff…. So imagine being immortal and having unlimited resources. Experiencing everything again and again. I don’t know if they are necessarily gay, as much as just completely and utterly beyond any type of societal norms or expectations
Ironically, since I both like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise, I've watched Interview The Vampire movie and I've found this so beautiful, full of charisma, well crafted and poetic with top tier acting... but I didn't realized the characters were bi or gay 😳🤣. Years, I later I've dated a girl who loved reading as I do and I borrowed her some sci-fi and urban fantasy books. Among them, a book of the Ann Rice's Vampire Chronicles series. And, I was very astonished by all the vampire and human male characters being openly gay. I'm straight so I was kind of "confused"😅. Anyway, that movie is a masterpiece and à favorite of mine 😎🤷🏾♂️
Min 1:03 and you are talking about the vimpires 'sexual prefences' when in the Anne Rice universe vimpires do not have sexual desire, that dies with their mortal body.... 😅 The fall in love with other vimperes for who they are, what they represent, the subjective beauty of their soul.... like... did no one here read the books???
That's acting like romantic attraction means nothing. If i became a vampire, i'm not suddenly going to be interested in women just cause sex is off the table.
@@LenaFerrari Vampires don't think about these things the way humans do. They can't be gay... If you REALLY insist they HAVE to be something THEY ALL would be bi. As in open to any and everything. In the end though it's only the exchange of blood that matters once they're turned into a vampire. Thats the closest thing for them feeling like sex.
Simple answer --> That's the way SHE wrote them...End of story if it offends you...Guess what don't read her work there are other vampire story authors who's vampires are straight....
Her vampires are not gay though... She even argued with people trying to frame her vampires that way. All you people are taking liberties now that she's passed. She used to argue with people on social media about this stuff all the time. "That's the way SHE wrote them" give me a break you don't even know what the author herself thought about these characters.
Because Rice was. Also, in the stories the fledgling never stayed with their maker, there was always a hatred that developed afterwards whether it be resentment or regret for being turned no pairing ever stayed. It's also why Claudia was converted by Lestat for Louie because he knew that Claudia would never stay with me Louis if he himself turned her.
Reminds me of one of the jokes that the late, great comedian Norm Macdonald told as one of many on ":Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live. It went along the lines of: "In this installment of Weekend Update's Movie Review, I recently had the chance to see Interview with the Vampire. My opinion? NOT GAY ENOUGH!!!!"
To me they seemed to be more Bi or Pansexual. I am assuming since they are no longer Human they dont have the same social taboos that humans share and can explore all avenues of "wants".
What i don't understand is , how did Daniel manage to travel ...back home to New York, as a vampire 🦇 he was turned in Dubai , wasn't he ? I really enjoy your videos by the way
I've Always wondered why too but overall I think they are more interesting like that, what I really wonder is why 80% of them are men, I would have liked a female "daughter"/ companion for Lestat besides Claudia and Gabrielle (I don't really count Mona, she was vampirized so she could stay with her beloved)
When you’re a male vampire, and your maker is one as well, the pleasure is in hunting and feeding together. That’s their pleasure. Female vampires hunt alone usually, according to lore. There is an intimacy between male vampires,
I always assumed vampires would be bisexual/pansexual because of time. Whatever homophobia your community had growing up as a human, you would travel the world & see that it’s not the only way to live. Also the people you’re worried about judging you would die & seeing other vampires in stable same-sex relationships would help open your mind eventually. It would happen faster if you found the same sex person you want to share your un-life with early on. Even if your person was the opposite sex, they probably had relationships that weren’t (Especially if they were much older).
Tale of the body theif.. what does lestat do and what does Anne quite graphicaly describe ? Sex with a woman. Besides when Undead their gear don’t work no more. There is no sexuality. It is soul loving souls
I think, as usual, the interpretation is dependent on the reader. I know Anne, over the years, has never argued against fans' interpretations of the vampire relationships. And she was right by that response. Now my interpretation is that blood was far more euphoric than sexual intimacy, so they didn't really have that kind of type of human. Also, I believe the leftover sex organs were no longer useful. So companionship and hunger were the carry overs from human life and vampire life. As for the vampire relationships, I think the possibility of a literal eternal life partner, I'm not sure if I would want that with the opposite sex as mine.
Who's Gabriel? Gabrielle is his mother. Do you maybe mean Antoine? He was the musician that Lestat was seeing behind Louis and Claudia's back. In the movie, Lestat makes passing note of him to Claudia, "I've found someone who will make a better vampire" or something like that. I was surprised when Antoine pops up again in Prince Lestat.
To ANNOY the hell out of a Gen X like myself. Oh I BEG to differ that "there is nothing wrong with it". I DON'T care what one's sexuality is however, it is personal and private no matter what it is and should be kept as such. There is an AGENDA I'm tired of being forced down my throat.
If you read the books you'd know they were not gay. Once you become a vampire that really isn't a thing anymore. You can love and want to be in the company of any and everyone you find interesting(it's not about sex anymore). From what I remember of the books the only "gay" relationships I remember were always with master/servant dynamics. Mainly Armand and his master before his master turned him. What's funny is people want to talk about these relationships but never about the creep factor. Armand was a little kid and his master gave him head...Also when Lestat drank a young girls period blood right out of her...ick At the most you could call them bi but as I said they don't really think about sexuality in those terms anymore once they become a vampire. Your whole world and way of thinking changes. The most "sexually" thrilling thing to them is the exchange of blood. It ALL lead back to the thirst. Why are people trying to pervert Anne Rices vampires?
As has been said a lot already, almost all of the vampires are bisexual. There is, I believe in Blood and Gold a statement that when you are immortal, you are not limited by a single sexuality, and so it would be more accurate to say that they are all pansexual. After all, Marius and Pandora, Lestat and Akasha, etc, etc,
Much of heterosexuality is driven by the endocrine system. It's procreative in nature. Yes, sometimes there is straight attraction based on pure mental attraction but it is mostly very about fertility cues. For most, it ends when menopause happens unless they have a more complex romantic nature. It is not romantic love in the sense that Homosexuality is, which transcends the biological, the animal, the procreative and is purely creative, mental and spiritual. Making it the kind of love that vampires (who are no longer biological) would feel.
No one of the vampires ever states their sexual preferences. And although some of them seem to lean more towards one sex most of them have desires for people from both sexes. I tend to believe that vampires are not driven by sexual desires so they wouldn't necessarily be gay, lesbian, etc. They are driven by their desires for blood and companionship. Therefore, they would desire people from any sex as long as that person has likes, dislikes, talents, charisma etc that draws them to that being.
Maybe I don’t know what I am talking about, I am taking that into perspective, but I did a google search as soon as I saw this video title and google’s AI review said that only SOME of her vampires are gay, not all of them. So is there a balance in her characters? Yes there is, according to google anyways.
I've read, don't know if it's true, that the author based the main character's relationship in her relationship with her husband, and didn't notice the implications
Anne Rice, a huge supporter of the gay community, didn't actually intend to deploy a homoerotic feel to her vampires; she didn't even realize the relationships she created had such homosexual tendencies, it just came natural to her while she was writing. Also, nobody really liked her Mayfair Witches books and adaptation on AMC, and it's understandable. I'm more into her vampire books instead, they're written WAAAY better.
Lestat is bi-sexual, however he is quoted as saying that he preferred men because they appeared much more interesting and exciting during his mortal days.
Vampire forklore : " why are you gay "
He also got really hot for his mom when she dressed as a boy
@@wolfbane7497 What's that got to do with the price of bread?
@@fantasticfraggle it's a meme
@@wolfbane7497 thanks for taking the time to clarify that! I think this might be a sign that I'm getting old! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I look at Anne Rice's vampires as being more Sexually ambiguous. Yes, Louis and Lestat did have a relationship, but Lestat had many relationships with both men and women. Same with all of the other vampires in Anne Rice's universe.
Hell, Lestat's mother kissed him on the mouth multiple times after he had turned her. I don't think that's gay, it's an entirely other thing if the reader is trying to read between the lines. So I would agree with you here. The vampires in Ann Rices universe are sexually ambiguous, if even sexual at all.
They are ABOVE that concept.
I saw somewhere someone discussed Anne rice vampires are more pansexual bc as they age they care less about what’s between the others legs and more how the person makes them feel
So why don't they ever have relationships with women?
@@ladyethyme I’d say ask Anne rice but she’s been dead a minute lol
@@ladyethyme They do... louis was with Merrick as an example...
the can't have sex they are impotent the females can fake it though which many have to get their prey
They don’t care about what’s in between the legs because her vampires don’t have sex.
I totally read the books as like
Bro love, old school signs of affection, European kissing on cheek or forehead. Boy was I in for a surprise when I read them again as an adult lol .
I always got the impression from Anne Rice's books that once they became vampires, sex was irrelevant to them.
Actually that isn't the case. Cause if that was true, people wouldn't label them as Gay, BI, or straight. If Sex had no meaning. Cause for one they do get involved with others.
@@VengeDracul I probably didn't word that as well as I could have, and I did say it was my impression of the books and characters, so telling me I'm straight wrong is kinda pointless. What I was trying to say is that the actual sex of anyone they found interesting or had feelings for didn't really matter. And I stand by that.
@@VengeDraculNo, that is the case actually. In the books their sex organs do not function at all. They don't have sexual intercourse.
On her FB page she said her vampires didn't have sexuality, they were sensual and fell for the PERSON.
@@seabreeze4559 Exactly! Thanks for putting it much better than I did.
Technically, they're mostly bi or pansexual. Marius also had Pandora and Bianca as companions, Pandora being the long lost love of Marius' life.
Exactly.
@@moonlily1 vampire folklore : " why are you gay "
Don’t think they actually have sex because they are not human
Affection and love of beauty men and women yes
From what I remember it’s the passion of the ‘ blood kisses ‘ with mortals
For example in book 2 lestat
Armand always just watched Daniel
In the act
Like I said they aren’t human but appreciate and can be passionate for beauty in all forms
@@bmad8870 I don't think the sexual orientation WAS changed, and I don't think the racial aspect is important. It's an excellent show in it's own right. It works, and if you watched it, you'd see why it works.
@@bmad8870 No, you're not wrong. He had sex with two women in Tale Of The Body Thief- he raped a woman, actually, then later he had a relationship with a nun.
Having read the books I took the attraction a vampire had was not sexual, but were attracted to beauty, male or female.
Me too 😅 I feel stupid now
You're correct. They appreciate the physical form of a person but it doesn't arouse them physically. Like the way a gay man can appreciate the beauty of a female. He adores & admires her beauty, but it does nothing to stimulate him to want to have sex with her. Except in Anne's world, the female vampires have no desire to have sex either --- with males OR females. But that lack of desire is because their bodies halt all normal functions the moment they're transformed by "The Dark Gift 🎁 🩸." That's why they stay physically --- and to some degree psychology --- "stuck" at the age they were at the time of their turning. There body doesn't produce anymore hormones, so without sex hormones being produced, they are actually physically INCAPABLE of being aroused. But they still crave companionship & someone to converse with & someone to do social activities with. It's kind of like elderly people, who once they get to a certain age, they really don't care about companionship for the purpose of having sex, but a heart 💞 connection with another person to ward off the loneliness.
Also, when you take sex out of the equation, males & females tend to stick to their own gender for companionship ---- except MOST EFFEMINATE gay men cuz we get along with females swimmingly BECAUSE sex is not involved & we don't feel pressured 2B macho like we do when we're around other men. You ever noticed in the Animal Kingdom, male animals tend to fraternize with other males most of the time until it's time to mate --- same thing with the females. I see this all the time with the ducks in my neighborhood. You also see it in lions if you watch nature shows.
PLUS, most of the vampires that the chronicles center around are ancient & came from times where pansexuality or homosexuality was commonplace & practiced openly, i.e. Marius came from ancient Rome, hence his relationship with a 15yo Amadeo/Armand. Though he did have a relationship with Pandora for centuries. Lestat & Louis are the youngest vampires from the main cast of Anne's characters, but they still are 200 yrs before our present time (the 20th century), so social mores weren't so strict around sexuality --- even back then, though not as loose as in Marius' time.
Yes people lie because of the new TV show but Anne said the same as you thought.
They aren’t gay persay they have no sexuality they just long for companionship and so it made sense to me while reading at least to me
yep i explain that in the video
That is something a gay would say
Exactely. I'm so confused why people talk about their sexuality. They are non binary and asexual.
I agree, they aren’t human. Fans really deserve a true telling of the books with a great director, producer, innovative film studio and budget to back it. But Honestly most film remakes have been a let down in so many ways in general so I wasn’t surprised this one felt sub par imho
I believe it's because it makes vampires better hunters if you're able to attract both sexes.
Hello 👏👏👏
Smart thinking on that one. Almost instinctal
Having read the Vampire Chronicles I never imagined Tom Cruise as Lestat.
Neither did Anne Rice
Sting in his younger days would have made a great Lestat
Vampires are alive forever and I imagine the aspect of man or woman falls away when one falls in love with a soul.
u can have love for a man like a brother but to want to sleep with a person is straight up weirdo 😂
This the gayest thing I’ve ever heard.
Gabriel was Lestat's mother and he changed her to save her from tuberculosis back into 1700's .
Gabrielle was lestat's mother..i'm talking about Gabriel
@@VampireFolkloreVideosI'm don't remember a Gabriel in the vampire Chronicles unless he was featured in later books.
@@mysteryfan28 The Vampire Lestat.
@@mysteryfan28 I agree, who was Gabriel? Gabrielle was his mother in The Vampire Lestat, so I'm guessing writing in a character named Gabriel in that book would have been super confusing. Even doing a Google search keeps pointing to Gabrielle. Who was Gabriel?
@@Marwolaeth01let these people have a typo 😂
I’d always seen it as companions rather than lovers and never really thought about it being sexual so much as personalities fitting together.
Because you're disgusted by gays
But honestly, what about the entire thing about the blood? Blood isn’t gender specific. The romanticism does exist in that alone which transcends gender.
They are not all gay, Anne made is clear that her vampires are not in to sex. So maybe its move about love of a person/vampires soul.
Yes, they no longer crave the physical intimacy and find it when feeding. Thank you for posting this lol
The issues are, she had to restrict herself when writing and when working with them on the first book to movie because of ideas against homosexuality during that time. Her son talks about this now. There is a lot we didn't get that was in her head. If you want to know a book series she wrote uninhibited, check out her Beauty series under her pen name. She had quite the mind for sex and homosexuality as well as BDSM.
To add to @@heatherrenee8810comment (for anyone else reading this) - her pen name for the Beauty series is A.N. Roquelaure. She also wrote two novels under the pen name Anne Rampling: Belinda and Exit to Eden, the latter of which also contains BDSM elements and was also made into a movie in the 90s.
isn't blood drinking like sex to them?
@@heatherrenee8810 her son talks about it, she never said that and had decades to correct herself. She had a FB page I read for YEARS. Her son says differently, who is gay. No motive there eh?
What I got out of the book was the vampires want to stay emotionally attached to someone to help imitate and keep up with the evolving world around them. So for me, they were really dead and stuck in time! Lesat loved his mother more than anything, and he said once he turned her into a vampire, she would not stay with him long! All of them drift apart over time because time moves different to them!
They are Not Gay. I am gay and there is nothing wrong with these characters not being sexual. Sensual, yes extremely. Vampires in this series lose all sexual desires and can't even use those body parts (at least for males vamps). Without sexual desires only companionship and comparability matters. They don't see something as trivial as race or sex. The TV series really did the characters a disservice by disregarding this part of the books.
The vampires aren't gay, they don't really see others as men or women, same sex or opposite. They can't even have sex. I think the gay community have adopted this idea that they are gay so they feel like they have something that's popular and of course Anne Rice knowing that many of her readers were gay would welcome them because she also only saw people as people not gay or straight.
Queen of the Damned I never saw had any backlash over the Jesse thing, it was more about the fact they had no romantic connection in the books and of course how much they changed in the film.
The show gay washed the characters a lot more than they were in the books. I wonder if they'll have the guts to bring Lestat and Rowan Mayfair together when the time comes. I mean eventually that's broken off but it does happen as Lestat found her interesting.
Now I have no issue with how the show is portraying them but I do get annoyed when others tell me I'm wrong because it's noted in the books that they don't care about gender or race as they are above all that.
QotD was just bad, and the Jesse Lestat thing was weird. Aaliya was the only good thing about that movie. Oh, and Armand. That's the closest to book accurate they've gotten for him.
@@S.D._777_ Armand wasn't even named in the film lol.
Aaliyah was sultry for sure, still not how she was described but pretty good
Stuart Townsend wasn't a terrible Lestat but he's no Ton Cruise or Sam Reid. I can't wait for us to see the true Lestat next season as we've only gotten Louis, Claudia & Armand's point of view
From TV series? MW TV series sucks so bad. Hope they don't crossover. Iwtv creator already said their series will focus on Louis and Lestat relationship.
THIS. 👍
How do you know they cannot have sex....dont ya see how strong and ...hard they are HAHA ....LOL
I feel like Anne Rice processing her feelings about her Catholic upbringing have a lot to do with her novels. Claudia and Louis both represent her grief, and Louis' anger when he enters the church and finds the Eucharist is one if several times where Rice struggles with her faith. Having queer coded characters and characters in taboo intimate relationships (Louis and Claudia), Rice is rejecting Christian sexual mores.
Rice's son was gay. She wasn't happy the Catholicism views the act of homosexuality as a sin. She was never able to reconcile a loving God with his condemnation of homosexual love.
@@abhcoat not to mention her weird Jesus novel during one of the times she tried to return to Catholicism
I mean... the Author herself would be calling bullshit on most of this.
on her facebook page, she used to
@@seabreeze4559 yup
In ANNE RICE'S book PANDORA the sexual part of the book explains that the male vampire can't get an erection as the vampire body is dead. Not all vampires are gay
but the females can fake it to get blood
all vampire storyes are queen metaphoers
But if that's the case then how do they have sex?
@@nelonwa7754they don't
@@yolanda8563 but Lestat and Louis were going at it. And Armand. And they became non monogamous at some point. Did the TV show make all that up?
I've always looked at vampires, even beyond Anne Rices works, as pansexual or asexual. They want to feed, to sustain, they might have preferences as we do for food but they don't discriminate based on gender or sex. The end goal is to feed. I always viewed vampire sexuality as part of the ritual of feeding. Lust + preying + pursuing just part of the dance, aside from the companionship aspects. I think most of Anne Rices vampires leaning homosexual/pansexual justs adds to the forbiddenness of her works at the time. Its was more taboo. Carnal cravings.
I agree. Also, as portrayed in her Sleeping Beauty series under her pen name Anne Roquelare (spelling?), she blurred the gender lines quite often. The books are about relinquishing all control to your sexual desire. So biological sex and gender preferences came down to what pleasure could be provided and nothing more.
Haven't vampires always been kind of queer coded, since Carmilla and The Vampyre?
You'd be surprised how many young lesbian vampire fans have never heard of that book....outside of that TH-cam series
@@darkservantofheaven hadnt heard of it until now...
She was the first and absolutely 💯
Yup, they've always been queer coded. It's one of the coolest things about vampires, in my admittedly very gay opinion, haha.
The one thing, aside from the quality of Anne's writing, that drew me to the Vampire Chronicles was the fact that Rice's vampires were pan-amorous (or pansexual as might be nearer the mark given the erotic nature of the vampires' affections). As a gay man, I have been bombarded throughout my nearly four decades of life by hundreds of thousands of stories that centered (sometimes solely) on heterosexual couples. By my teenage years, I had tired of this. It was such a breath of fresh air to read stories about totally unapologetic homosexual relationships between multiple men. Furthermore, I consider seeing beauty in ALL people and being capable of falling in love with anyone of any gender or expression to be a human ideal. I wish we were all so unfettered. Thank you for covering this topic.
They aren't multiple Men.
They are multiple monsters and immoral beasts that feed on the life force of the young humans. Very fitting.
Yes!! I’m bi/pan and this is how I’ve always felt! I was always drawn to stories with gay/bi characters in my late tweens and teens but didn’t fully realize why until I hit my 20s lol. I’m also biracial so I love seeing that take included in the new IWV show. Representation matters!!
Beautiful❤
Ive always seen someone that is immortal would explore all options through out their life (unlife)
@@destrocrimson Yeah right?
Author “It’s not about gender”
Reasonable Human Being “but literally every single one is a gay dude. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it sure as hell isn’t an elephant”…
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Unless it's an elephant that thinks it's a duck..😊..quack..quack..dumbo.
they wouldn't be going to hell if they were straight good buddy woooooweeeeeeee
@@Grant-ld7vg Just shut up with that bigoted bullshit.
So it’s just preference?
also, arent there simply more male vampires in her books? there arent really a ton of female vampires, and on top of that ones that get most of the spot light.
you got the Queen, the twins, Claudia, and Pandora.. who else? and i mean bigger characters, not side ones.
Occurred to me too. Wondered about that
Theyre really gay in the show lol but werent so gay in the books. In the books it was more of having a partner so they weren't alone for eternity. I dont remember reading about vampires hooking up with each other. The only sexual thing actually that i remember in the books was the vampires drinking each others blood. Seemed like a sexual experience for them. Vampires in the books weren't gay.
This.
When you said about vampires atrac from something special in that person i think it's the same way when a human wanna find out something in another person, a confidant, a partner, protection, pleasure but in the vampires because of immortality, they incessantly search for something so as not to feel empty due to the longevity of humans
I am so glad you covered this topic. I was really hoping the TV show. They wouldn’t be gay, but it works and I absolutely love the show. I don’t know about the movie in 94 being a cinematic masterpiece. I didn’t really care for Tom Cruise as that but I adored Brad Pitt asLouie, and didn’t really care for Tom being listed either she really wanted Brad to be Lestat but it was good. Can’t wait for season three to see the stat as a rockstar and who will they cast as Akasha?
Just found your channel. Love this explanation- since I knew so little about Anne Rice, only knowing her writing through the books I had read. Thanks for inspiring me to reread the 3- and delving into the newer ones.
Lestat was always bisexual, even during his human life. He also had a romance with Rowan Fielding from The Lives of the Mayfair Witches trilogy. Personally, I've always thought of Anne's vampires as more bisexual/pansexual. Did you mean Lestat and Antoine, rather than Lestat and Gabriel? As he wasn't ever with anyone called Gabriel. I think you may have gotten confused with Gabrielle.
Honestly, vampires can't really be "Gay" since those are human words. Doesn't really apply to supernatural beings since they aren't human and are matting with a completely different species. But that's my take, so whenever I see supernatural, undead beings etc and they have sexual relationships with the same "sex" (lets say) I think nothing of it and expect it in most writings of vampires because things like straight, gay, bi etc does not apply to supernatural beings. Those are human lables. But just my two sense. 🤷♀️
Agreed. It’s like calling a supernatural entity “gay”
Honestly, my very first vampire Chronicles movie was Queen of the Damned (watched under the idea that it was a stand alone movie) and until watching your channel had no idea it was connected to the vampire Chronicles.i also didn’t know that most of Ann’s camps were gay until seeing this video. I knew at the very least Lestat and his friend were as in one of your videos you mentioned them being lovers, not friends
I was thinking the same. As a straight man, as much as I thought the show is great, I remember thinking how gay the vampires were and I thought that it’d be my preference to be turned by a woman. Just don’t know why vampires have to be so gay.
The Irony that Lestat was so much more knowledgeable than Armand and it was Lestat who rescued Armand from the ignorance.
I love that Anne rice basically invented the bisexual vampires and then others followed like true blood and what we do in the shadows
The first bisexual vampire was in The Vampyre, which was written in 1819 by John William Polidori and based on Lord Byron, who was bisexual. Anne Rice didn't invent bisexual or queer vampires, she was just carrying on a very long tradition.
God this irritates the hell out of me they aren't all gay they are attracted to each other's minds and their personalities because they can't have sex anymore. If tomorrow Louis woke up a girl it wouldn't change anything for his companions. People who think they are all gay really aren't paying attention in the books as well as seeing it for whatever they want to see not what is really there. I mean if Lestat is so gay why when in Tales book when he was briefly human did he have sex with a woman? The great part of the relationships to me was they were attracted to who each person really was not what parts they had. Ok end rant
MAGA much?
so not str8 but got it
@@carlgrimes2512 no idea what that means but ok
In the Ann rice novels as a vampire all their body function are dead. A vampire can't eat piss or can't get hard all that is dead. Only blood counts. It's why lestat being intimate with is own mother or louis being intimate with Claudia who is a child. Lestat as a mortal was bi and continue to be as vampire. Louis as a mortal we don't know, but as a vampire was bi. Armand was turned very young like 16, and same bi. There is a lot of stories of character in Ann rice but liké i Say the fluid sexuality in vampire resides that technicaly they can't have sex and only blood counts
Louis was heterosexual as a mortal - he was married with a child. After his family died he began trawling local bars starting fights and engaging in other high risk behaviour, attracting Lestat's interests.
@@tompearce5418 in the movie he was. In the novels he was depressed because his younger brother commits suicide.
"Lestat and Gabriel..." Wait, who...? Oh, you mean Gabrielle? As in, Lestat's *mother?!*
yup thats a prefect example of why this isn't about sex or sexuality... His mother for a time acted like his lover after he turned her. How come people don't understand the idea that vampires are no longer human and don't think or feel the same way humans do? They are not gay or bi or pdfs or incestual... None of that matters or is a thing anymore once they are turned.
Its affection beyond human feelings.
I read these novels and her vampires cannot have sex and feel no physical drive to have sex. So lately I've been reading about all the sex in the novels and I'm a little confused by that. The only thing I can think of is by nature they seek out a companion from time to time, they absolutely adore beauty in all its forms including a beautiful mind. They experience something euphoric or orgasmic when they drink from Humans and each other along with a psychic experience giving them a lot of insight into the person they are drinking from. So maybe this is getting equated with sex? I don't know. Perhaps its subjective? I've no idea what Anne Rice's opinion has been on it other than she confirms they are not able to have sex but I'm sure surprised by all the talk. There IS sex in the books but its usually before they were turned or humans.
Lestat was bi. I think QotD wasn't straightwashing him, but only covered one half to his bi, that if there was a sequal, we would've seen him with Jesse sharing a guy together or having their own. Kind of like Brian and Justin in Queer as Folk. Not that's what happpened in the books cause it didn't, I'm just saying *IF*. My brother is gay and happily married but he's not a vampire fan, so he won't read the books or c the movies and show.
oh QotD was total straightwashing. The creators of the film specifically didn't want to feature any of that in their movie, that's why Louis is completely non-existent and Armand isn't even mentioned by name, and Marius doesn't even acknowledge Armand's existence in the film, aside from a deleted scene where Marius basically nods to him and that's that.
Yes it is what turned me off of her books. I’m heterosexual so that doesn’t interest me, I’m sure homosexuals aren’t too interested in heterosexual relationships. I don’t care how anyone lives their lives but, that just is not what I want out of entertainment.🤷🏼♀️
what a dmabass coment lmao str8 ppl watch gay entertainment all the time and so do gay ppl
heterosexual relationships
I think what it is, is that once they change they grow to become beyond specific sexual proclivities.
Great question.
It is important to note that Lestat is not gay - he is bisexual and later in the book series he falls in love with a woman. There's a lot more in the books to heighten that her vampires are not all gay, nor all the majority but yes there are plenty of her vampires who do fall under the LGBTQIA umbrella. They're all mostly bisexual/pansexual by far more majority and that is central to the vampire ARC in using seduction and sexuality to find both companionship and sustenance in any available gender or orientation.
Also, Anne has a son who is an author and he is gay, Christopher Rice and that added to her allyship for the LGBTQIA community.
Ah yes Dora
@@VampireFolkloreVideos No, Rowan Mayfair later in the crossover books.
It's in Blood Canticle and Blackwood Farms and also draws in on the crossover with Merrick Mayfair into the vampire world.
I see it’s as Anne put it, “I see love as love.” Her vampires were much more interested in what another individual made them feel emotionally, rather than sexually.
The theme is "forbidden love". Vampires embody all the ideas that are forbidden and unattainable unless you sacrifice your mortality: immortality, ageless, eternal youth, strength etc.
Yeah I kind of found that annoying… Not only is there a serious lack of female characters, the ones that do exist are like really awful and horrible.
That to be honest I never actually read "gay relationship" into a lot of her vampire relationships. It's like people can't fathom the idea of two guys being close, loving one another, having moments of affection etc. without it being sexual. And I find that this is a very American attitude… They want to change everything into being a sexual relationship, whether it's men or women or men together or women together. It's like you can't have a close and loving relationship with somebody anymore without people accusing you of being in love with that person and a romantic way. And I think that's really sad.
Living that long, who wouldn't have many types of companions?
Yes, they are, mostly because it's a major attraction not only for Anne but for the fandom, particularly the large female fanbase. Homoerotic relationships play a big role, and she knows it-heck, the fans know it. The number of heterosexual and bisexual women who enjoy consuming content centered around homoerotic relationships is significant and has played a major part in the series' popularity.
You also have to remember when the books were written and released. Her first release was was in 1976, right in the middle of the gay movement. She herself has said she felt like a gay man inside well before becoming a born again Christian. Although I think this a great video this has more to do with times times and Anne Rice grief more than anything. Also at this time she had lost her daughter Claudia. Let’s not forget. Moreover, the vampire chronicles started out as a short story years prior. Okay that’s enough of my two cents 😊
Vampires don’t have sexual relations like humans do (I don’t remember if male vampires can even get erect. Females could go through the motions I suppose but not much else.) their intimacy comes from sharing blood so the whole man/ woman thing doesn’t exist for them anymore. Lestat is and was Bisexual or pansexual where he has interest in both. (Quite frequently taking female victims) he also takes interest in the character Rowan Mayfair in the book blood canticles. But he also has affection for the character of Quinn before that. (If I remember properly that was in Blackwood farm) but his relationship with Quinn ends because he feels guilt about not being able to help him with his problem.
The irony in the Vampire Chronicles is that the undead are attracted to particular mortals but are unable to continue reading their thoughts telepathically after turning them into fledglings, creating a barrier between them.
Once they started drinking blood that replaced sex. Without the impulse for sex maybe people would be a bit more relaxed in who they chose as a companion. I mean look at all the guys who say they won't be friends with women unless there's a chance of sex. Without the stigma and need to have sex, I'd imagine they'd prefer another guy. Of course some of them were sorta gay before they turned. Lestat seems like an equal opportunist lover. I mean he had that thing with Gretchen
I would say it a general "trend" among female writers to focus more on the Romantic and Sexual side of Vampires and Male Writers like Stephen King, Del Toro or Martin prefer the horror/supernatural side.
I don’t mind it at all. It’s just that, if I’m reading this correctly from most people commenting on here, Lestat is Bi-sexual. Also, don’t forget (that’s if you already known or knew about it) that Anne Rice son, who is her second child, is Christopher Rice. Which, he is a gay writer in his own rights.
This is why I stop watching. The books and origin movies are all I need❤
I think it's less about being gay or straight, but more about after centuries, you look for new things to experience. Human morality and ideas about Sexuality just don't matter when you're living through centuries.
It really is a problem. Way to many gay dudes for a vampire series. And I have a really good buddy who's gay so I have no problem with gays but god damn why so much of it
Jake the snake Robert’s talked about when he was in his prime his sexual exploits as a celebrity were so often and so extreme it always took more and more to do it for him, to give him a feeling of excitement. He said at the end he was doing some crazy stuff…. So imagine being immortal and having unlimited resources. Experiencing everything again and again. I don’t know if they are necessarily gay, as much as just completely and utterly beyond any type of societal norms or expectations
Ironically, since I both like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise, I've watched Interview The Vampire movie and I've found this so beautiful, full of charisma, well crafted and poetic with top tier acting... but I didn't realized the characters were bi or gay 😳🤣. Years, I later I've dated a girl who loved reading as I do and I borrowed her some sci-fi and urban fantasy books. Among them, a book of the Ann Rice's Vampire Chronicles series. And, I was very astonished by all the vampire and human male characters being openly gay. I'm straight so I was kind of "confused"😅. Anyway, that movie is a masterpiece and à favorite of mine 😎🤷🏾♂️
They are bisexual-asexual, but asexual first and foremost most!
It actually makes sense that magical, dead beings would be completely alien with regards to how they love and reproduce.
Min 1:03 and you are talking about the vimpires 'sexual prefences' when in the Anne Rice universe vimpires do not have sexual desire, that dies with their mortal body.... 😅
The fall in love with other vimperes for who they are, what they represent, the subjective beauty of their soul.... like... did no one here read the books???
That's acting like romantic attraction means nothing. If i became a vampire, i'm not suddenly going to be interested in women just cause sex is off the table.
In the boo Interview With the Vampire Louis and Lestat never slept together. Lestat created Louis because he was so beautiful and moody. 4:42
He reminded him of his old friend as well, I think. The violinist that went mad.
lestat is bisexual, Marius too, Akasha is hetero, Pandora too, and Mael. and they don't have sex, drinking blood is like sex. Their bodies are dead.
how can you be so wrong and yet know so much about the books?
right im a og book reader fr make it make sense
I'm curious (haven't read the books tbh), what is your version of this?
@@LenaFerrari Vampires don't think about these things the way humans do. They can't be gay... If you REALLY insist they HAVE to be something THEY ALL would be bi. As in open to any and everything. In the end though it's only the exchange of blood that matters once they're turned into a vampire. Thats the closest thing for them feeling like sex.
Simple answer --> That's the way SHE wrote them...End of story if it offends you...Guess what don't read her work there are other vampire story authors who's vampires are straight....
Her vampires are not gay though... She even argued with people trying to frame her vampires that way. All you people are taking liberties now that she's passed. She used to argue with people on social media about this stuff all the time.
"That's the way SHE wrote them" give me a break you don't even know what the author herself thought about these characters.
Because Rice was. Also, in the stories the fledgling never stayed with their maker, there was always a hatred that developed afterwards whether it be resentment or regret for being turned no pairing ever stayed. It's also why Claudia was converted by Lestat for Louie because he knew that Claudia would never stay with me Louis if he himself turned her.
If only we had a term for a woman who likes to hang around with homosexual men. Something like "Bag Wag?" or "Jag Nag?" "Tag Mag?
Reminds me of one of the jokes that the late, great comedian Norm Macdonald told as one of many on ":Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live. It went along the lines of: "In this installment of Weekend Update's Movie Review, I recently had the chance to see Interview with the Vampire. My opinion? NOT GAY ENOUGH!!!!"
“ I think I have a gay sensibility and I feel like I'm gay, because I've always transcended gender,” - Anne Rice
To me they seemed to be more Bi or Pansexual. I am assuming since they are no longer Human they dont have the same social taboos that humans share and can explore all avenues of "wants".
What i don't understand is , how did Daniel manage to travel ...back home to New York, as a vampire 🦇 he was turned in Dubai , wasn't he ? I really enjoy your videos by the way
I wrote quite a bit about this in The World History of Vampires (by E
R. Vernor) available on Amazon
Louis had a wife and child remember?
It simpler than you think. They are no longer human corrupted. They are changed to much to compare to human relationships
When I read the books i always thought it was obvious that they chose partners based on compatibility because they were now immortal. not sexuality.
I've Always wondered why too but overall I think they are more interesting like that, what I really wonder is why 80% of them are men, I would have liked a female "daughter"/ companion for Lestat besides Claudia and Gabrielle (I don't really count Mona, she was vampirized so she could stay with her beloved)
When you’re a male vampire, and your maker is one as well, the pleasure is in hunting and feeding together. That’s their pleasure. Female vampires hunt alone usually, according to lore. There is an intimacy between male vampires,
I always assumed vampires would be bisexual/pansexual because of time. Whatever homophobia your community had growing up as a human, you would travel the world & see that it’s not the only way to live. Also the people you’re worried about judging you would die & seeing other vampires in stable same-sex relationships would help open your mind eventually. It would happen faster if you found the same sex person you want to share your un-life with early on. Even if your person was the opposite sex, they probably had relationships that weren’t (Especially if they were much older).
Tale of the body theif.. what does lestat do and what does Anne quite graphicaly describe ?
Sex with a woman.
Besides when Undead their gear don’t work no more. There is no sexuality. It is soul loving souls
I think, as usual, the interpretation is dependent on the reader. I know Anne, over the years, has never argued against fans' interpretations of the vampire relationships. And she was right by that response. Now my interpretation is that blood was far more euphoric than sexual intimacy, so they didn't really have that kind of type of human. Also, I believe the leftover sex organs were no longer useful. So companionship and hunger were the carry overs from human life and vampire life. As for the vampire relationships, I think the possibility of a literal eternal life partner, I'm not sure if I would want that with the opposite sex as mine.
Because she wrote it that way.
Who's Gabriel? Gabrielle is his mother.
Do you maybe mean Antoine? He was the musician that Lestat was seeing behind Louis and Claudia's back. In the movie, Lestat makes passing note of him to Claudia, "I've found someone who will make a better vampire" or something like that.
I was surprised when Antoine pops up again in Prince Lestat.
To ANNOY the hell out of a Gen X like myself. Oh I BEG to differ that "there is nothing wrong with it". I DON'T care what one's sexuality is however, it is personal and private no matter what it is and should be kept as such. There is an AGENDA I'm tired of being forced down my throat.
Good Question
What is that Vampire movie at the 3:51 mark?
They weren't homo in the original story. The Vampire Chronicles. I was just turned off. I didn't continue watching it . The gay agenda just ruined it.
If you read the books you'd know they were not gay. Once you become a vampire that really isn't a thing anymore. You can love and want to be in the company of any and everyone you find interesting(it's not about sex anymore). From what I remember of the books the only "gay" relationships I remember were always with master/servant dynamics. Mainly Armand and his master before his master turned him. What's funny is people want to talk about these relationships but never about the creep factor. Armand was a little kid and his master gave him head...Also when Lestat drank a young girls period blood right out of her...ick
At the most you could call them bi but as I said they don't really think about sexuality in those terms anymore once they become a vampire. Your whole world and way of thinking changes. The most "sexually" thrilling thing to them is the exchange of blood. It ALL lead back to the thirst.
Why are people trying to pervert Anne Rices vampires?
As has been said a lot already, almost all of the vampires are bisexual. There is, I believe in Blood and Gold a statement that when you are immortal, you are not limited by a single sexuality, and so it would be more accurate to say that they are all pansexual. After all, Marius and Pandora, Lestat and Akasha, etc, etc,
Much of heterosexuality is driven by the endocrine system. It's procreative in nature. Yes, sometimes there is straight attraction based on pure mental attraction but it is mostly very about fertility cues. For most, it ends when menopause happens unless they have a more complex romantic nature. It is not romantic love in the sense that Homosexuality is, which transcends the biological, the animal, the procreative and is purely creative, mental and spiritual. Making it the kind of love that vampires (who are no longer biological) would feel.
"She was dark. She was sensual." - Interview with a Vampire-book DUDE SHE WAS 5! I wish it was only homosexuality vs the cringe fest.
Simple. You live a super long time you start to want to try everything.
They were more bisexual than gay except for who Armand seemed more asexual than anything. Even though he got very attached to Louis.
No one of the vampires ever states their sexual preferences. And although some of them seem to lean more towards one sex most of them have desires for people from both sexes. I tend to believe that vampires are not driven by sexual desires so they wouldn't necessarily be gay, lesbian, etc. They are driven by their desires for blood and companionship. Therefore, they would desire people from any sex as long as that person has likes, dislikes, talents, charisma etc that draws them to that being.
Maybe I don’t know what I am talking about, I am taking that into perspective, but I did a google search as soon as I saw this video title and google’s AI review said that only SOME of her vampires are gay, not all of them. So is there a balance in her characters? Yes there is, according to google anyways.
I've read, don't know if it's true, that the author based the main character's relationship in her relationship with her husband, and didn't notice the implications
Anne Rice, a huge supporter of the gay community, didn't actually intend to deploy a homoerotic feel to her vampires; she didn't even realize the relationships she created had such homosexual tendencies, it just came natural to her while she was writing.
Also, nobody really liked her Mayfair Witches books and adaptation on AMC, and it's understandable. I'm more into her vampire books instead, they're written WAAAY better.