Today I will make some unusual dice. They will not be square but round and we will make them completely out of metal, with a wooden stand. Enjoy! #dice#W&M#lathe
I was thinking about how in a regular dice 7 is the highest probability with a plus and minus of 1, here would be interesting to determine it, there are magnets so E&M is our friction and not a surface
Yep. Though they've got one downside: cheap magnets have a surprising amount of variance in strength. Unless you pick carefully, you'll get weighted dice. And if you pick carefully, you might get...weighted dice..... I might have an idea now...
Nice job 👍 It really looks amazing. When you laser etched the numbers, the numbers opposite each other should add up to 7, like a pair of dice. For example 6 opposite 1 (equals 7), 5 opposite 2 (equals 7) and 4 opposite 3 (equals 7). This will give a more random result like a pair of dice.
@@davelahoud1256 It doesn't. Dots add up to 7 for the 6th and 1st face, which means they are adding up to seven adjacently for two faces. By "across", he probably means that he'd have preferred the faces to opposite to each other, as in a real dice.
I've always had a strange obsession with dice, and collect six sided. I tend to like the unique one's, and this is just too cool! Want one soon bad! I might use your idea and make a wooden one, because I don't have the machinery to create a metal one. Brilliant idea!
I love this. I would be so tempted to leave the magnets out though, so every spin is a game all its own, just watching them spin for far too long. Great work.
That was soooo incredibly satisfying to watch, damn! It's amazing to just look at that cilinder be shaped bit by bit. Also, the end product? Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous. Also: very jealous of the professional gear you have available! Nice!
I'm impressed with your patience. I'm a toolmaker so I use full sized machine tools and I get frustrated with the removal rates of them sometimes hehehe. That's some nice work.
This is actually 1D, but curved around a circle.Everything that matters is a single line around the cylinder. if you think about it, the thickness is only for the numbers so you know how much did it spin. The hard thing would be to make an actual 3D dice. Now that would have to have a 3D surface and spin in 4D Good luck have fun with that
On real dice, the values of opposing sides always add to 7, so 6 is opposite to 1, 2 to 5 and 3 to 4. Maybe you like to implement it in the next version.
Yes! And more importantly perhaps, adjacent sides should avoid adjacent numbers, to make the outcome less predictable. The order 1, 4, 2, 6, 3, 5 (cyclically repeating) looks forced to me. Also, perhaps make it less easy to turn both wheels with one swoop, because now it may be too easy to keep the wheels in the same relative orientation. Although that would admittedly affect the aesthetic.
This is a very interesting approach. With it, you can have a D2, a D3, a D4, (probably) a D5, (as you've shown here) a D6, (probably) a D7, a D8, a D9, a D10... the only ones that would tend to be difficult would be some of the prime numbers. You've just answered the dreams of the Dungeonmasters.
Now record pairs of a consecutive 1000 runs and let math geeks analyze whether the starting position and almost same applied force creates a bias in this set. I would bet that: a) starting position will have a great impact on a result and b) two dice would be dependent
The placement of the magnets seems like it could influence the results if not done accurately... just guessing as I didn't get a good look at where they were inserted. Cool project.
Yup. One finger spinning both cylinders simultaneously would create a bias. Only reason I went to the comments was to see if anyone agreed. Flanking both cylinders although would require 2 separate rolls. Just a thought
The sum of the numbers on opposite faces should be 7 i know it is round, but it still a 6 side dice. it really bug me when 1 is next to 6. btw what a cool idea
It's really cool I like how whatever number it lands on its that same exact number all the way around the dice so if it lands on 7 its 7's all the way around the dice
If you do decide to make a set of five dice, an idea would be to make a stainless steel (ss), brass, ss, brass, and so on. Perhaps even making the indicator arrows alternate, also. Yes, if you make them, I would be interested; however, I do not like spending money. You really did an awesome work on design and finished product!
This is really a fun idea. Maybe I'll make one as well, but I would make it with three and with the pointers pointing upwards, but not higher than the rotating wheels. Never the less, it is a very nice work, I won't be able to make it this nice.
@@ivarlaupet8972 a regular 6 sided die, a face has a chance of jumping to 4 other adjacent faces and the opposite face. This wheel, you can only go to another number in sequence (doesn't have to be 1,2,3,4,5,6. It can be any sequence).
I have a set of round d6s they are hollow with a diamond shaped interior and the external numbers correspond with the six corners of the diamond and a spherical weight ensures that one, they don't just roll off of the table and two, that a number always shows on the top.
Do you want to buy such dice? I can make them.
Did you think of doing them in other sizes? d4,10,20, or 100s?
I would love to get a D20 like this
@@CelticClown23 I need to think about it.
YEEESSSS ^^ Could you, please, estimate the price ? Such a gorgeous work 👍
@@WM_Levsha I know I'd buy one for a D100
Would be interesting to see the results of 120 spins to check the distribution across the numbers.
Even if distribution would be uniform, it might happen that numbers are dependent on the angle of dice before spin. That also would make it unfair.
Probably just 1/6 for every number lol
You'd need much more for a reasonable confidence in the fairness of these 'dice'. Any slight imbalance or local roughness will make them unfair.
I was thinking about how in a regular dice 7 is the highest probability with a plus and minus of 1, here would be interesting to determine it, there are magnets so E&M is our friction and not a surface
120 is not enough
Wow! The magnets are such a simple yet brilliant idea and so elegant.
Yep. Though they've got one downside: cheap magnets have a surprising amount of variance in strength. Unless you pick carefully, you'll get weighted dice.
And if you pick carefully, you might get...weighted dice..... I might have an idea now...
@@johannesmajamaki2626 then change the setup a little: 1 Magnet in the frame, 6 little screws in the dice wheels.
@@jBurn_ Or 1 magnet and 6 precision cut steel discs. Differences in the steel masses would also give a small “weighted dice” effect.
The magnets are exactly the thing that makes this device untenable.
i'd definitly buy them if the numbers on opposides sides of the "dice" add up to 7 like a regualr square dice
Totally agree!
Wait what? I've never noticed 😲😲😲
61 5:2 43 34 25 16 no matter how the dates of sheets you can always equal 7
They add up to 6. Not 7.
@@HollowRoll I stand corrected. Thank u
Nice job 👍 It really looks amazing. When you laser etched the numbers, the numbers opposite each other should add up to 7, like a pair of dice. For example 6 opposite 1 (equals 7), 5 opposite 2 (equals 7) and 4 opposite 3 (equals 7). This will give a more random result like a pair of dice.
Such nice idea. Using magnets to stop the piece is pure genious!
The dots should add up to seven across the bearing axis, other than that - just perfect :)
I've been staring at this comment wondering why - I'm confused - does this not do that?
@@davelahoud1256 It doesn't. Dots add up to 7 for the 6th and 1st face, which means they are adding up to seven adjacently for two faces. By "across", he probably means that he'd have preferred the faces to opposite to each other, as in a real dice.
Among all the videos I've watched, yours are the most inspiring ones. Keep up the great work👍👍👍
I've always had a strange obsession with dice, and collect six sided. I tend to like the unique one's, and this is just too cool! Want one soon bad! I might use your idea and make a wooden one, because I don't have the machinery to create a metal one. Brilliant idea!
The knob on the animated caliper compass in the intro isn't attached to the slide lol, it's so annoying
Literally unwatchable now. ;)
I love this. I would be so tempted to leave the magnets out though, so every spin is a game all its own, just watching them spin for far too long.
Great work.
Every once in awhile a new genius make their appearance on TH-cam. Congratulations W&M Levsha
That was soooo incredibly satisfying to watch, damn! It's amazing to just look at that cilinder be shaped bit by bit. Also, the end product? Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous. Also: very jealous of the professional gear you have available! Nice!
I'm impressed with your patience. I'm a toolmaker so I use full sized machine tools and I get frustrated with the removal rates of them sometimes hehehe. That's some nice work.
That is gorgeous, both in terms of the end product and the wonderful skills involved in making it.
this is really cool
Very nice. Love your sound tracks as well
looks like you had a wheely good time making this.
Extremely splendid craftsmanship!! Neatness is especially noteworthy.
"alrighty we have made dice for the second dimension..."
"Now for the first."
Already done it. Wrote 1 through 6 on paper, then draw from box.
@@jeffmckenzie7282 1D is literally just a line, you know this, right?
This is actually 1D, but curved around a circle.Everything that matters is a single line around the cylinder. if you think about it, the thickness is only for the numbers so you know how much did it spin. The hard thing would be to make an actual 3D dice. Now that would have to have a 3D surface and spin in 4D Good luck have fun with that
Your tools and machinery are amazing..MUCH TALENT!!
Absolutely stunning! Good design is the perfect equilibrium of effective engineering and art. And these are sublime. Subscribed!
The probabilities are same, just a little expensive and more aesthetic!
Nice work! 😍
Great idea! You can make it with any number of choices: 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10. For a RPG player, it's a paradise!
Awesome idea, brilliant result!
Never have to pick up dice and pass them around pure genius hats off to you sir💪👍😎
On real dice, the values of opposing sides always add to 7, so 6 is opposite to 1, 2 to 5 and 3 to 4. Maybe you like to implement it in the next version.
and the problem with those he made is that if you know them you kan learn to cheat it.
Yes! And more importantly perhaps, adjacent sides should avoid adjacent numbers, to make the outcome less predictable.
The order 1, 4, 2, 6, 3, 5 (cyclically repeating) looks forced to me.
Also, perhaps make it less easy to turn both wheels with one swoop, because now it may be too easy to keep the wheels in the same relative orientation. Although that would admittedly affect the aesthetic.
@@landsgevaer i whould say each one has to have 2 or 3 times each number. and in diffrend spots evry time then you cant cheat it.
Loving the jam, so smooth
I would like to place my order now for a set!!!!
I bet you have the most entertaining desk in the world. You can't get bored in your office.
How amazing is this. Brilliant video mate 👏
Beautiful build! Sharing on The Awesomer.
That's amazing! A dice spinner instead of making dice that can roll on a table or dice tray! Keep up the good work! New fan here!
This is a very interesting approach.
With it, you can have a D2, a D3, a D4, (probably) a D5, (as you've shown here) a D6, (probably) a D7, a D8, a D9, a D10... the only ones that would tend to be difficult would be some of the prime numbers.
You've just answered the dreams of the Dungeonmasters.
That is a gorgeous piece. I'd love to have one for myself
Super cool! these would be absolutely perfect for my younger boys to use rather then regular dice.
Well done! 100% watch time! My favorite type of work! 👍
Just watched this in 4k... What a beauty ! Thanks.
Now record pairs of a consecutive 1000 runs and let math geeks analyze whether the starting position and almost same applied force creates a bias in this set. I would bet that: a) starting position will have a great impact on a result and b) two dice would be dependent
Yep! I was thinking the same!
I'm highly skeptical this will be an effective RNG
The placement of the magnets seems like it could influence the results if not done accurately... just guessing as I didn't get a good look at where they were inserted. Cool project.
Yup. One finger spinning both cylinders simultaneously would create a bias. Only reason I went to the comments was to see if anyone agreed. Flanking both cylinders although would require 2 separate rolls. Just a thought
@@sideshowbob1776 even if triggered one after the other it should be cake to train yourself to use the same force / speed of rolling
Excellent project and video, your skills are very impressive to me.
I JUST found your video today, and so far love watching
Awesome idea.....I bet you could sell a ton of these!! 😍
Keep up the great work!! 👍👍
I love it.. this channel reminds me of Clickspring but with CNC
The sum of the numbers on opposite faces should be 7
i know it is round, but it still a 6 side dice. it really bug me when 1 is next to 6.
btw what a cool idea
That is what I was thinking. The numbers should be: 1,2,3,6,5,4.
Does it matter? It still won't have the same probability of a six sided dice.
Fantastic work!
Man, I wish I could come play with all of your awesome toys (the machining equipment, but also the toys you make with them!)
I like the way you over complicate everything! Keep it going
So original! I love it! 😍👍🏻
This is one of the VERY FEW channels I hit the like button on before watching the video.
Muy original y muy bonito. Estupendo trabajo. Un saludo y cuidese. Very original and very beautiful. Great job. Greetings and take care.
Absolutely beautiful
Wow.. That is a real beautiful work
Your shop must be as amazing as your work.
I'd like to see it.
i absolutely adore this idea. im gonna steal this one day once if i get have the money and equipment to create my own things
It's really cool I like how whatever number it lands on its that same exact number all the way around the dice so if it lands on 7 its 7's all the way around the dice
Way cool! So satisfying.
Beautiful work
Amazing idea!
Ooo those are PRETTY!
Why didn't you make OPPOSITE numbers on the Dice wheels ADD TO 7 similar to opposite sides of dice?
Beautiful work.
Love this!
beautiful work, beautiful video
a DnD set would go down well with ever-shrinking table space :D
It turns amazing!!
Seriously... brilliant
I feel like the numbers being in sequence and it only spinning in one axis makes the outcome more easily controllable.
Awsome idea 💡
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙏
Great music and enjoyable video
Utterly beautiful.
Nice as always
Bravo très ingénieuse idée belle invention
Amazing work, thanks
If you do decide to make a set of five dice, an idea would be to make a stainless steel (ss), brass, ss, brass, and so on. Perhaps even making the indicator arrows alternate, also.
Yes, if you make them, I would be interested; however, I do not like spending money.
You really did an awesome work on design and finished product!
genious, nice job, thanks !
Very very beautiful my friend ❤️❤️❤️
This is really a fun idea. Maybe I'll make one as well, but I would make it with three and with the pointers pointing upwards, but not higher than the rotating wheels. Never the less, it is a very nice work, I won't be able to make it this nice.
Works very smoothly
все не знал, как Левше ставить по 2 лайка за ролик )
теперь вот знаю, спасибо :)
тем чем занимаешь реально офигенно.
Shouldn't the Six be opposite the One, all opposition numbers adding up to Seven?
@Nobita You're right, but it's not necessary here.
@Nobita
It still wouldn't match an actual cube dice in terms of probability and rng.
@@2010ngojo why not
@@ivarlaupet8972
a regular 6 sided die, a face has a chance of jumping to 4 other adjacent faces and the opposite face. This wheel, you can only go to another number in sequence (doesn't have to be 1,2,3,4,5,6. It can be any sequence).
@@2010ngojo Oh, I see
Extraordinario increíble espectacular !
Very cool design.
I have a set of round d6s they are hollow with a diamond shaped interior and the external numbers correspond with the six corners of the diamond and a spherical weight ensures that one, they don't just roll off of the table and two, that a number always shows on the top.
Workshop tour? You have some really cool tools!
Truly amazing 👏
Superbe travail, l'idée est excellente.
Well shoot I can't live without one of these
I'd love to have one, ever think of doing a D20?
Found the dnd player every one! But yeah for an artificer this would be really nice
Hail Hydra!
I'd be one too
That's what I was thinking!
Really interesting concept. Much more controllable than real dice though.
Very fine work.
Very nice. Are you planning any polishing or laser or other type of engraving for the brass end pieces?
So cool. I need one or two 😁
WOW, I LOVE THAT MAN
Nice Idea
They look very fun to spin.
Nice work
What kind of laser you use to mark them?
I am looking one to mark stainless steel
OMG nice idea..😊
You should totally make 2d10 like this
I think a modular version where you can add and remove dice would also be nice. Great job though!
Good idea.