Why I Will NOT Grow THESE Again (Solanum Melanocerasum AKA Garden Huckleberries)

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  • @sarahtimmins600
    @sarahtimmins600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thanks for your video. My family has grown these for over 100 years and they are used for Pie or jam. They are harvested after 1st or 2nd frost. There is a process to take out the bitter. Ours are usually canned (water bath) in quart jars. Process is wash carefully - 4 qts berries cover with water, bring to boil, add in 1 T. baking soda boil and stir for 5 minutes. You will see an amazing emerald green foam come off the berries leaving a magnificent purple. Drain fully, rinse a minimum of 3 times. Return drained berries to pot, add 2c. water, 6 T lemon juice and 4 1/2 c. sugar. Simmer 30 minutes. Process quart jars (water bath) 30 min. From here we thicken for 2 crust pie, depending on the level of sweet you might add more sugar. We also add crushed pineapple to the pie filling as well. Family originally from England.

    • @davidrempel8897
      @davidrempel8897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I made pie with them, used a teaspoon of nutmeg. Tasted like honey made from lilac and lavender.

    • @mairzydotes3548
      @mairzydotes3548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing your family’s experience. I grew them for the first time- 3 plants. In late July, I picked a small branch to test. After having not done anything in a week, 😅, I decided to pull them off and throw them in my baked oats. They were delicious. They kept their shape and were a bit tart and sweet. Did not prep in anyway. Maybe aging them on the counter helped? I’m excited to enjoy these all winter. 3 plants gave me tons of berries. I’m going to pick some more, cool and check the ph. Hard to find that info.

  • @brockreynolds870
    @brockreynolds870 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've grown these for 40 years, and love them!!! And so does all my family and friends.... so I can almost guarantee what you are doing wrong. These berries have to remain on the plant for SEVERAL WEEKS after they turn black. They ripen from the center outward, and they do not properly develop their flavor unless you follow a really strict protocol.
    1: Berries will turn from a glossy black to a more matte sheen when they are ripe.
    2: After picking, you must let them rest for at least 48 hours at room temperature before cooking.
    3: I cook mine, then run them through the colander, which removes the seeds and peelings, so I'm left with just juice and pulp, then sweeten and thicken the result. Takes a fair amount of sugar. It's possible the seeds and/or peelings are fouling the flavor, since wev'e never eaten or preserved the berries whole. As far as flavor.... the closest thing I can think of that these are supposed to be similar to would be elderberries.... but there should be NO BITTERNESS, That is a sign your berries are not ripe enough.

    • @galeriadesol948
      @galeriadesol948 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I am buying those and the seller has similar recommendations. Important: don't pick them when glossy!!

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@galeriadesol948 I live in Central Missouri, and they start turning black around August 1. I don't START picking until after Labor Day. Start in the middle of the plant and work your way out. ALSO... there is the species, and the variety that Luther Burbank improved. You want the variety that is called "Solanum Burbankii", as opposed to "Solanum Melanocersaum". Techincally they are both the same species.. the improved version is bigger, juicier, and has better flavor. I know Baker creek sells them.

    • @CheeseBurgerXJ
      @CheeseBurgerXJ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello I have solanum melanocerasum and burbankii from seed savers exchange that I planted last year and sprouted again this year but I’m unsure of how to tell them apart, is there an easy way you know of

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CheeseBurgerXJ Burbankii will have larger fruit.

    • @CheeseBurgerXJ
      @CheeseBurgerXJ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brockreynolds870 nice thanks for the quick response, I think only the melano survived from last year sadly

  • @RainCountryHomestead
    @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    NOTE: These are not the same thing as the wild blue huckleberry nor are they true huckleberries (Vaccinium parvifolium) . True huckleberries in either their red or blue variety are perennials and they are delicious. These are annuals (Solanum melanocerasum) and not even related to the wild huckleberry. They are only given that name because they slightly resemble them. These are also in the nightshade family

    • @tonimitchell9930
      @tonimitchell9930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well I am so glad that you did this video. When I saw them I had gotten all excited, hoping they would be like the wild ones.

    • @bigfoxgamingbro7526
      @bigfoxgamingbro7526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want to add that they’re technically a berry along with any other fruit of the nightshade family, tomato, tomatillo, ground cherry, eggplant, peppers, they are all berries

  • @geethacp89
    @geethacp89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The cooked leaves of garden huckleberry is the best medicine for stomach ulcer! Even the berries are good for diahreah.

  • @livewell8262
    @livewell8262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good to know the seeds can be used this way. I grow them to eat the leaves stir fried in tomatoes and onions. Keeping the seeds for the following year's planting season.

    • @LoftyMindsGroup
      @LoftyMindsGroup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cameroonian right?

    • @folinet1
      @folinet1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Njama njama

    • @ndemscomm2623
      @ndemscomm2623 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very important vegetable-the leaves!

  • @lucybi5681
    @lucybi5681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    From Africa. We eat the leaves and not the berries. The leaves are a staple in some parts of Cameroon.

    • @zhippidydoodah
      @zhippidydoodah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello. How do you use the leaf? Is it cooked, or raw like salad?

  • @tammyadams7965
    @tammyadams7965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you tried the cotton fabric dying since the taste wasn't too good. Natural fabric dying has caught my interest recently. I've never seen Garden Huckleberries. It did make a pretty dye color. I learned something new. 🙂

  • @sandymick6295
    @sandymick6295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my gosh Heide,I just love you and Mr Rain.I just want jump in and do everything just like you.But alas,I'm 70 yrs old,but you have already taught me so much Your my favorite homsteader!!

  • @MetatronsWing
    @MetatronsWing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    they're best for planting around the OUTSIDE edge of your garden...they will distract the elk and deer into eating them... and they will walk on past your garden and flowers. Elk love them here. :)

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well now that is an idea, I can plant them out at the property when we get around to putting more fruit trees out there. I love the look of these plants and if it will help keep the elk away from our fruit trees, that would be great!

    • @MetatronsWing
      @MetatronsWing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RainCountryHomestead some people use blackberries, too, but with huckleberries, you don't get stuck..... :) besides, they can jump over the blackberries....so its kind of "pointless" lol. can't wait to see what you plant at the new property, other than fruit trees.

  • @MsHomesteader
    @MsHomesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We grew these one year as well and felt they were not what we wanted either. Our turkey's loved them and cleaned up what we didn't harvest. I did have some self seed again the following year, but we just pulled them out.

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have to let them sit on the plant for several weeks before harvest, and then after harvest, they have to sit out at room temp for 48 hours before you cook them. The fuit has to NOT be glossy when harvested, or they will not have any flavor.

  • @BadBoyBreeze13
    @BadBoyBreeze13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well the plants are great for the little blue butterflies 🦋

  • @dawntrygstad
    @dawntrygstad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried them a few years ago in a different garden. Didn't like them either. And they were INVASIVE! They even followed me to my next garden on a potted plant. I recommend pulling up any volunteers immediately over the next few years. Also, thanks for confirming that they are a nightshade - I generally feel better avoiding those, but can't resist fresh tomatoes this time of year :-). We have real perennial. huckleberries on bushes all around our new (4 years) and permanent home and they are delicious. Love your videos! Thank you.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am afraid I will have a ton of new plants coming up next year! I totally agree on those tomatoes, so good right off the plant!

  • @tonimitchell9930
    @tonimitchell9930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so glad that you did this. We have wild huckleberries here and they are awesome. Very expensive to buy and people make money by picking them and selling them. I wanted some but they only grow in the woods, so I was excited to see they had them for the garden now..........now I know NOT to waste my money and time.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, these are not at all the same as the wild huckleberry. It is a shame the flavor is not good as they grow quite well

    • @anna7118
      @anna7118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Toni Mitchell there are real huckleberries that can be bought and are tasty. I bought Evergreen Huckleberry plants from Wilco this spring. They are a perennial plant that grow very small berries.

    • @tonimitchell9930
      @tonimitchell9930 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anna7118 I will have to check those out. I love our wild ones but cannot hike the hills anymore.....

  • @kindred1113
    @kindred1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have never try them. They look so pretty thou....nice to spend time with you,,,,blessings...MINDY

  • @tennesseegirl1215
    @tennesseegirl1215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks dear friend for sharing, it helps save from wasting time, money and space in the garden. I appreciate your input, blessings

  • @caliluv5468
    @caliluv5468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I planted them as a bait plant for my tomatoes and it worked really well! But yes they are yucky

  • @buckeyedav1
    @buckeyedav1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heidi even though this video is old so glad I came across this. For some reason last year I bought the Huckleberry seeds from Baker Creek at the end of gardening season and was just reviewing how to grow them and your video popped up.. I try to always go to videos of people I know first. Hmm I won't be growing these. Anna In Ohio

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a note, the Garden Huckleberry (Solanum melanocerasum) that I show and talk about in this video are not at all related to the wild huckleberry (Vaccinium ovatum). The wild ones are delicious and are perennial, not annual. If the seeds only say Huckleberry and not GARDEN Huckleberry, they are probably the good ones

  • @LisaTaylorMidWesternGirl
    @LisaTaylorMidWesternGirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Michigan and travel to the PNW weekly for work. I love the summer when I can stop and buy huckleberries and rainier cherries. I've looked into trying to grow both here at home. I visited Forks last Fall and it was such a beautiful drive! I also visited La Push Beach, one of them. Washington state is one of my favorites!

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True huckleberries are delicious! I do have a little true huckleberry bush in our side garden but these here are no huckleberries, not even close. Yes, it can be pretty out here but we pay a price for all the greenery and that is through the great amount of rain we get. A lot of people come and go here. They think they can handle the rain but after a year realize it is much more than they thought.

    • @LisaTaylorMidWesternGirl
      @LisaTaylorMidWesternGirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RainCountryHomestead I do see a lot of people with Uhaul's moving out as I leave. Everyone there seems to be so happy! I still believe it's because of all the trees.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LisaTaylorMidWesternGirl When the sun comes out and we get a chance to actually enjoy the beauty, yes, it does make us very happy because the other nine months of the year are very dark and dreary

  • @NS-pf2zc
    @NS-pf2zc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never tried any kind of huckleberry, so it's good to know there are differences like this.

  • @donnainmt
    @donnainmt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SO SAD for this negative report! I grew up on these berries and all of my family (distant and immediate) love them! You CANNOT eat them green! In german they are called yukada. It took me years to learn what they are in english! I purchased seed and grew them last summer and we were all thrilled to have them in our family once again!!! I make coffee cake, pie, pancakes, syrup, jelly, and other things with them. And, no I am not speaking of wild huckleberries, which we also have in this area. I'm not nearly as fond of the wild ones which have a whole different taste. Also, you CAN eat them directly off of the plant. I ate them all summer that way and didn't get sick or die!
    You are really giving them a bum rap just because you don't like them!!!

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did not eat any of them green, I waited until they were fully ripe. But, to each their own. This is why I recommend at least trying one plant as some may like them in case you missed that part. I am only going to be honest and not highly praise something I personally do not care for but also do not want to scare people away from at least trying it.

    • @camillathomas61
      @camillathomas61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure you are talking about Garden Huckleberries and not their relation Wonderberries? I have heard that Wonderberries are very good right off the vine. They are smaller and thinner-skinned than Garden Huckleberries. I have not read of anyone else liking Garden Huckleberries before they are cooked.

  • @kongnyuyraissa5093
    @kongnyuyraissa5093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr you cook the leaves and keep the fruit as seeds visit cameroon and you'll love how it's being prepared 😉 👌 it's a traditional meal in my culture

  • @louiseepie4764
    @louiseepie4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We eat the leaves in Cameroon very nutritious yummy

  • @carolinegreulichbrandon2561
    @carolinegreulichbrandon2561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read that the plant part of these are good for attracting pests that like to ruin the other nightshade plants which I guess is like tomato and cucumber. I am going to try them for this reason and hopefully I have good luck with them. Maybe I’ll try a jam with some of the suggestions here

  • @kleineroteHex
    @kleineroteHex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My granddaughter watched with me and asked "can't we talk to Heidi on the phone?"😄
    Those berries don't sound like my kind! I tried aronia berries for a first, now I want to propagate some! BUT WHERE???? Hubby told me not to dig up more backyard while he goes hunting!!! How in the world did he get that idea????

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahahaha! I would like to try aronia berroes again, my little starts I got ended up dying on me because of our weird weather and then the chickens topped it off by getting into my pots and digging them up!

    • @kleineroteHex
      @kleineroteHex 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RainCountryHomestead put some aronia berries in the freezer, put a few cuttings in pots... not sure what will grow 😉

  • @metalheadfarmerrugbypunk2698
    @metalheadfarmerrugbypunk2698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Growing up in North Idaho, We would pick about 30 to 65 gallons of Huckleberries a year in the wild
    We would make everything from huckleberry pancakes, chocolate, jam, syrup, burgers(yes I said burgers), bbq sauce, etc.. AND freeze them in sugar to eat plain, plus we would eat them raw too

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am pretty sure you are talking about TRUE huckleberries that are perennials and delicious. I love those. They are in the Ericaceae family unlike the garden "huckleberry" I am talking about in the video that is an annual and more closely related to a pepper. Totally different plants.

  • @ardenpeters4386
    @ardenpeters4386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good to know. I bought seeds this year....darn. I'll still use seeds just cause

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen comments where people use the leaves for medicinal purposes, something I had not bothered to look into myself when growing these.

    • @BramptonGardener
      @BramptonGardener 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you try them. I absolutely loved them.

  • @joybickerstaff194
    @joybickerstaff194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Heidi! I planted these years ago, didn’t even sprout, haven’t planted since thinking either my climate wasn’t right or I planted at wrong time. Anyway, I like to let weeds grow n certain parts of my yard, cause I like wild edibles. A plant like this was not noticed till I saw green berries, I didn’t know what they r, so when a few turned dark, I put one n my mouth, crushed it and let it sit, like 5 minutes, no flavor at all, no reaction, I meant to go back the next day and do next test, chew and swallow, but forgot. I’ve done this with others, I spit out instantly, nasty Lol. I’m not sure if this plant is the same as urs, I don’t recall if the berries were n clusters as urs, I think they r n single form. If the freeze hadn’t killed it, I’ll resume the test. The only thing it would be good for if not poisonous, is a filler, or as u said, a dye. My question on ur plant is, why would it be sold if it hasn’t any flavor. Thank u

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people do actually like them, as can be seen by the lady that got offended by my video even though I am just being honest. True huckleberries are really good but these annuals that are in the nightshade family I do not find worth the space they take up in the garden. I have been to websites where people use them to make jams and seem to really like it. So, I guess to each their own! haha

  • @sylvieducharme4173
    @sylvieducharme4173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They helped me discover black nightshade solanun nigrum and these are super yummy and safe to eat raw! They are very similar. It was an accident. I just checked it because it looked a little different and I wanted to be safe and not pick something poisonous! Fun discovery for a lovely volunteer!

    • @sharonr1824
      @sharonr1824 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Solanun Nigrum is for the folks that live near me, more commonly known as Schwartzenbeeren, or German Blackberries. They are Germans that they brought over with them from the Volga region of Russia. The one thing I know about the Schwartzenbeeren, is that when you pick them, the stem should be yellow, not green. That indicates that they are ripe. My husband grew up eating these in pies, and has always loved these berries. Enjoy.

  • @WendyK656
    @WendyK656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heidi, I don't care for them either. I don't like gooseberries either. Heidi, that is the best way to do it to give just one a try of something a try. We are to be honest to people of how we liked it; and I like you did not say not to try them; but they were not your cup of tea.

  • @rhondawelker6742
    @rhondawelker6742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting. I love huckleberries and was planning to add a few plants to the garden after seeing you plant them. After hearing this post I’ve decided not to since they don;t taste like the wild ones. Thank you, Heidi. Been super busy , then a trip to see Harvey’s mom. Trying to catch up. Probably won’t happen for awhile. 😆

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are not the yummy wild huckleberries, these are not even a true huckleberry so the name is really not a great one for them. These are an annual in the nightshade family. I would still recommend getting true huckleberry bushes.

    • @BramptonGardener
      @BramptonGardener 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I absolutely love the flavor when you add sugar and lemon. I think its delicious.

  • @chuckkottke
    @chuckkottke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the informative video! I nibbled on the berries last year after the first frost and they were good, but had a weird sweetener aftertaste. I grew the Luther Burbank cross called the Sunberry years ago, and they were better - sweet but bland, definitely needed lemon to make the jam taste like anything, though they do have a mild blueberry flavor. More breeding would yield improved varieties, they have the potential to be a garden fruit, but this year I'm growing Goldie and Aunt Molly's ground cherries - those are worth trying, they are sweet with a pineapple like flavor.🍊.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I have grown those very ground cherries before and in fact have some coming up on their own still years later. When I first started my channel 5 years ago, I did a couple of videos on the ground cherries, I had SO many that year I was trying to find other ways to use them and even tried making a salsa. Not great on their own but when mixed with tomatoes it did make a pretty tasty salsa. I made a lot of apple ground cherry butter that year too.

  • @loishaggard7058
    @loishaggard7058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you,it took over a third of my garden, so I’ll be pulling it

  • @chanahera
    @chanahera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kia ora from NZ 🇳🇿
    We call this healthy wild green Poroporo and a healing wonderful kai/food
    Poroporo we don't prepare as jam or add sugar/lemon to it.
    Poroporo a healing kai/food good postive green(s) 🌱
    Mauri ora

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I have heard the greens can be good but I grow a great many healthy, nutrient packed greens and more that I do not need these taking up precious space in my gardens

    • @chanahera
      @chanahera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ka pai/all good e hoa/friend
      Mauri ora 🌱

  • @ChadZLumenarcus
    @ChadZLumenarcus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! I'm growing a few and have a lot of space and wanted to try this.

  • @frinwie1688
    @frinwie1688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where I am from,.we eat the leaves and throw away the sends or keep.them for planting

  • @davinakoehn2049
    @davinakoehn2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought huckleberry seeds from Baker Creek. I’m going to have to check to see if they are the true huckleberries or not. May grow a few plants still to experiment with. Thanks for the information. That was very helpful

    • @NubianP6
      @NubianP6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought my seeds from BC too. The back of the package says: “Solanum Nigrum”, but I’m going to give them a try anyway.

    • @stunnermane5775
      @stunnermane5775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same lol. Well see. I think baker creek is legit

    • @reginawhite1235
      @reginawhite1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Garden Huckleberry BC seed packet says Solanum melanocerasum. Will grow these 2022.

    • @reginawhite1235
      @reginawhite1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My BC seed packet called Blackberries Schwartzenbeeren are labeled Solanum nigrum. Will grow in 2022.

    • @lucylu530
      @lucylu530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I grew two plants, my seeds were also from baker creek. They did very well until they were hit by aphids. Once that happened, both plants started to die. I was able to pick enough to make jam. It has a slight bitter after taste but otherwise it's good. I'm not sure I will grow them again.

  • @jackpinesavage1628
    @jackpinesavage1628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wild huckleberries grow in the woods all around our log cabin in Northern Michigan. I try to pick them in the summer time before the black bears do. I've tried to transplant them at my sister's place in Indiana and at my mom's place in Kentucky, yet, they didn't do well there. Wild huckleberries like to grow in the sand and the climate where I live.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have wild huckleberries all around us and are real good, unlike these fake huckleberries I am talking about here, not at all the same thing. I do have a couple of wild huckleberry plants, hoping they will do better this next year for me.

  • @LoveBugBentley
    @LoveBugBentley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @GmamaGrowz
    @GmamaGrowz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your experiences with huckleberries 🤩.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Note, these are not TRUE huckleberries, these are "garden huckleberries" and are not actually related to the tasty perennial that grows wild around here

    • @GmamaGrowz
      @GmamaGrowz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RainCountryHomestead I appreciate your note 🤓 Thanks!

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just like to make sure everyone understands that, I should have been more clear in the video but many came in thinking I was talking about the true huckleberry, now THOSE are good! :D

  • @raisingcubs7915
    @raisingcubs7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew 3 plants from seed and they are huge and have tons of huckleberries but taste like I’m eating leaves. I was trying to be patient but I guess if it’s not going to get any better I’ll replace them with something more useful. Thanks!

  • @julieunger1989
    @julieunger1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever tried huckleberry lemonade? It gives a great little color. I also cook them with water and strain to make a thick juice for coloring drinks and other food. It's so much fun for kids.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True huckleberries are delicious but these garden huckleberries are not the same thing at all and taste nothing like a true huckleberry

  • @JimmyFloridatube
    @JimmyFloridatube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Solanum Nigrum Black Nightshade growing wild around here and I have tried them. You aren't supposed to eat the berries until the stem also turns purple or dark. They say they aren't poisonous at that point but I find they give me canker sores in the mouth, so I don't eat them. On the other hand I have lots and lots of Huckleberry bushes Deer berry bushes all around and have all I care to pick in the season, pounds and pounds if I want. I am going to clone some of the best deer berry bushes and raise them for sale to homeowners and landscapers.
    I never call Black Nightshade a Garden Huckleberry and I don't know who really does, but it sounds odd to me.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is what the package of seeds that was given to me were labeled "Garden Huckleberry". If you look it up, you will find it is actually a quite common name but unfortunately, it confuses a lot of people, too many coming in here, even with the botanical name given, STILL though I was talking about the wild perennial that grows all around our area as well

  • @HeartinessApproach
    @HeartinessApproach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video. I appreciate your information. I have seen Pure Living For Life and Idaho going collecting them all the time. They make bottles and bottles of Huckleberry ice cream and put in their freezer so I just assumed they were a good tasting Berry. Thanks for the information.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do not watch them (I rarely have time for any other channels) but those are likely blue huckleberries which are quite good. These are not at all related to a true huckleberry that grows wild around here

    • @HeartinessApproach
      @HeartinessApproach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh. Good to know.

    • @BramptonGardener
      @BramptonGardener 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find them delicious when cooked with sugar.

  • @jamesblankenship470
    @jamesblankenship470 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also eat the leaves very similar to spinach sauteed or boiled

    • @ZaynneThaWook
      @ZaynneThaWook 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really? I’ve always heard and read that they’re toxic

  • @barbarafritchie2000
    @barbarafritchie2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @grsartofworship4352
    @grsartofworship4352 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in Idaho we have huckleberries made in ice cream and teas and jelly. It’s really good. Don’t know how they do but it is good

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      True huckleberries are really good, these are not a true huckleberry and I forgot to point that out in the video. These are an annual that is in the nightshade family, not at all related to the tasty berries that grow wild around here.

  • @blackbats91380
    @blackbats91380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you pretreat your fabric by using a mordant? If your jam has lemon in it that may have been why the color was richer. Acids help set dyes depending in the dye. It looks like you jar things if you have alum in your kitchen you can use that as a pre-treatment for your fabric this will keep your dies more vibrant and colorfast.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I did not do any of that as I was just experimenting for the sake of those who may want to grow this plant. I will not be growing it again myself. But, good information, thank you!

  • @yvonnethornton1433
    @yvonnethornton1433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm wondering what it would taste like if it was added as a space holder along with some of the stronger berries. Maybe one could use some of those and be able to use a smaller amount of the other berries to make the fruit we like go farther. I know sometimes applesauce is used for the same thing. The apple sauce is bland so it's not noticed when eating the product.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had considered this and tried blending with some apple butter but while the berries are bland in one way, they also have a strong flavor once cooked that is unpleasant that overtakes the flavor of the other fruit

  • @carolhamilton5164
    @carolhamilton5164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning Heidi!👍

  • @theresalovett6296
    @theresalovett6296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are yours from seeds you bought? I found some that look exactly like those out in the woods. Do you know anything about those? They don't smell bad, but not pleasant they are watery inside like a grape .

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine came from seed that was gifted to me. And I need to point out again that these are not at all the same kind of huckleberry that grows wild in the woods. Not even related. Wild huckleberries are perennials but these are annuals that are more closely related to peppers. They do not even look anything like real huckleberries

  • @lesw3803
    @lesw3803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be lovely for fabric dye

  • @lorenbush8876
    @lorenbush8876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the CHICHIQUELITE variety that Baker Creek sells seeds for? The color looks the same. Are youable to grow black pepper there? Thanks

  • @calebproductions5970
    @calebproductions5970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info

  • @barrywingler418
    @barrywingler418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have wild huckleberries, they are smaller then yours and are perennials and when ripe they are sweet. You should try sunberries they are really good also.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, wild huckleberries (or TRUE huckleberries) grow all over here in our forests, these are not at all related to the true huckleberry, which I did note in a pinned comment above as many were confused about this

  • @MountainGardenGirl
    @MountainGardenGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a helpful video. I ordered them and am now thinking I should of watched your video first. Thanks for all the good info. You really covered every question I was thinking...especially the colder cooler wetter climate part. Have you tried the goji berries..Baker's Creek has them too. Thanks!

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have tried goji berries, they did not do well for me. After growing them for years, my plants got decent size but I got very few berries and they tasted awful so I finally dug them up and made room for currants instead and those do well here

  • @EventheSparrowHomestead
    @EventheSparrowHomestead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bummer. We had just purchased the seeds for next year's garden. Ha! We'll just try one plant like you've suggested.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always worth it to at least try one. Only way you can learn if you may, like some few people, actually like them :)

    • @hischild3759
      @hischild3759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just watched a video where a man grew one plant and fed them to his chickens. Now the plants are everywhere. The plants even self seed. He wished he never grew that one plant. I’m tossing my seeds in the trash.

  • @Romaf
    @Romaf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have used a life hack: before making jam, soak berries in boiling water for 10-15 minutes. Then jam will be delicious.

  • @sleeplessinthecarolinas8118
    @sleeplessinthecarolinas8118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was about to order some. Taking it out of my basket now.Thank you!

  • @loveandpeaceanielynerasqui8342
    @loveandpeaceanielynerasqui8342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The taste of seeds is not yummy but the tops we just stire fried in garlic and its yummy

  • @sheilahughes1014
    @sheilahughes1014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oddly enough, I have a pack of huckleberries I was going to try.....not worth it for the fruit. looking too add only viable food sources to my garden, considering the condition of the world today! many thanks. you are one of my go-to utubers for researching garden help!!

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a huge difference between wild huckleberries and these garden huckleberries. Wild ones are wonderful and tasty but are also a perennial where this is an annual that looks more like a pepper plant and seems more related to a tomato.

  • @firecloud77
    @firecloud77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I grow 20 plants every year. Love eating them right off the plants. Never made jam with them. That would be a waste.

  • @GardenUPLandscape
    @GardenUPLandscape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you tell me what variety this was? I'm about to purchase some Vaccinium membranaceum, which is a slow growing wild huckleberry. I'm guessing this video is about the Garden Huckleberrry that's actually in the nightshade family, is that correct?

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, you are correct, this is NOT the wild huckleberries that are perennials but these are annuals. Wild huckleberries are quite good.

  • @KumiOriFarm
    @KumiOriFarm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think these have been growing wild in my garden as a weed. I thought the berries are poisonous because a chicken died after I put the weeds in their pen and they ate some. The berries are very fertile in my garden and look like potatoes, tomatoes and peppers when young.

    • @fastflat4
      @fastflat4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same thing growing in my back field. Looks like small like tomato 🍅

    • @matthewspeights6919
      @matthewspeights6919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are very similar-looking fruits that are toxic. If you don't know for sure that it's safe, don't eat it!

    • @maxxs118
      @maxxs118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a nightshade plant. All nightshade are toxic to chickens. They should never be fed tomato leaves or any other nightshade.

  • @bangbang9ergang524
    @bangbang9ergang524 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought these are night shades and night shades are poison? Im so confused. I have these berries growing in my flower garden next to my foxglove plants. I never planted them. So im thinking the robins must have dropped some seeds into my garden while looking for worms? Maybe?

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว

      while parts of night shade plants like potatoes and tomatoes can be toxic, not all parts are and many are fine if cooked.

  • @mpedals
    @mpedals 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great info, tks tons heidi, now i wont waste time wanting them

  • @jimbronson687
    @jimbronson687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Informative. Thank you. Not a fan of Nighshade too much and I can and have grown real Huckleberrys so why bother with these.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real huckleberries are SO much better and they grow wild around here.

  • @CharlieBrown-bu1rv
    @CharlieBrown-bu1rv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look into jaltomata. Very similar. Same family. Ive grown 3 types that are very good. The berries that is

  • @katjodaniels4233
    @katjodaniels4233 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew these too, but but mine were so much smaller than what you got! The flavor was disappointing, kind of watery tomato-ish??
    I'd heard great things about them being so high in antioxidants but certainly not worth it to me. (And I am not a picky eater either)

  • @H22-z6e
    @H22-z6e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried growing Nanking cherriesI heard they are wonderful and cold Hardy

  • @angiekrajewski6419
    @angiekrajewski6419 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well in France they call huckleberries = airelles.,and usually they eat it with turkey or duck or foie gras.,,
    For festivities...cause it is kind of expensive..and you don’t eat much
    i am just saying the way they eat it ..i am vegetarian..but i know loads of people appreciate to eat this with meat.. they say it is very refined dish...maybe because it has a little strong taste to it ...that marry?s good with strong taste meat...

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are not true huckleberries, these are an annual in the night shade family. REAL huckleberries grow wild around here and are very good, I have always loved, these are very different.

    • @angiekrajewski6419
      @angiekrajewski6419 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rain Country ah?..which means..that you know the ones i talked about... personally i did eat those airelles...but ...well.i wouldn’t ...eat the airelles by themselves ..too strong for me ..(i might have to try again ..maybe my taste have changed never know..) but when i ate turkey or duck etc i did appreciate the taste with the meat..well i know that it must be good for health...take care....,

  • @melissasnellagnew3854
    @melissasnellagnew3854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I had seen this video before ordering, I’m getting two kinds from Baker Creek seeds . I’m afraid I’ve wasted my money .

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people do like them, I just was not thrilled with the flavor. However, many have said they make good fodder for animals and I think I remember some saying the greens are edible. If nothing else, they are lovely and fun to grow.

  • @PokerHillFarm
    @PokerHillFarm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We haven't tried these and after your review we won't ....lol

  • @devinh1491
    @devinh1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder berries are good only when they are ripe they are poisonous when they aren’t. You can also eat the leaves but you have to boil them for a little bit

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are not wonder berries (Solanum burbankii) they are garden huckleberries (Solanum melanocerasum). Maybe wonder berries taste better than these but yes, these are only to be eaten ripe as well, which I did ONLY try them when they were ripe. Still gross

    • @devinh1491
      @devinh1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oops my mistake but if you haven’t tried the golden verity of wonder berries they outshine the rest in my opinion

  • @sarahsmith1218
    @sarahsmith1218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I grew six plants this year I bought seeds off of seed savers exchange and I’ve mostly let the birds pick at the plants. I won’t grow them again because I’m afraid to eat them! Haha I did make and can pie filling but I’m not sure if I’m going to risk it.

  • @riverunner9978
    @riverunner9978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand the berries are poisonous if not completely ripe

  • @AHomesteadLifeInAppalachia
    @AHomesteadLifeInAppalachia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You dont know how something will be if you dont try it for yourself ;)

  • @ChocolateBoxCottage
    @ChocolateBoxCottage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We tried these several years ago and they were a disappointment. As you found, the flavor is unimpressive and they're NOTHING like real, wild huckleberries. ~Michele

    • @Brav0w
      @Brav0w 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got 10 pounds of wild high bush huckleberries/blueberries this season and about to get more. 😁

  • @margaretfoster492
    @margaretfoster492 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's odd. Huckleberry grown wild are awesome.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are not wild huckleberries, they are not actually a huckleberry at all but an annual in the nightshade family. Yes, wild huckleberries are quite tasty.

  • @wadeschlenker5383
    @wadeschlenker5383 ปีที่แล้ว

    These look like Schwartzenbeeren, brought to the US by Volga Germans when they emigrated from Russia.

  • @folinet1
    @folinet1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's technically not a berry, it's a green leafy green vegetable.

  • @dongnguyen4726
    @dongnguyen4726 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nightshade?

  • @margaretfoster492
    @margaretfoster492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it has to do with the soil.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is possible, however, I do know many other people that have tried growing them have said the same thing about not liking the flavor. I do also think climate can play a part in flavor.

    • @weedsinthegarden4261
      @weedsinthegarden4261 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We tried a few plants a couple of years ago and thought the jelly flavor was good. We live in Southeast Georgia so climate/soil might make a difference. Or we might just have strange tastebuds. 😀

  • @Sassysonia1234
    @Sassysonia1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you bought the wrong kind of plant. Garden huckleberries are not the same as huckleberries at all. Researching this would have really helped you.

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have grown up around huckleberries, I know the difference. I gave the botanical name of these in The description and also gave more explanation of the differences in a pinned comment above. I did not buy these seeds, they were gifted to me so I thought I would try them for fun

  • @hucknbarry3496
    @hucknbarry3496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a huckleberry junkie

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are not true huckleberries, not even related at all

    • @hucknbarry3496
      @hucknbarry3496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't think so because of that green up by the stem. There are so many huckleberries in the mountains in late summer, do you ever go picking?

  • @jrocu2
    @jrocu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are not huckleberries. Those are poison poke berries DO NOT EAT THEM!!

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, they are not poke berries and I know what a true huckleberry is as I have grown up picking them in both their red and blue form. These are Solanum Melanocerasum but are commonly known as Garden Huckleberries. Please note that the botanical name is in the full title of the video and I also explained it in a pinned comment above as I realized people were thinking they were a wild huckleberry. They are not at all related to true huckleberries that grow in the wild around here. They are edible but are best to be eaten only fully ripe and usually cooked.

  • @mompofelski4191
    @mompofelski4191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    haha. gross. thanks for being honest.

  • @bbbk53
    @bbbk53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you are demonizing huckleberry without explanation that the name covers multiple variety of different type of plants. Maybe a time to drink coolaid. Should be tasty and sweet enough for your likes

    • @RainCountryHomestead
      @RainCountryHomestead  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Instead of being a jerk, please see my pinned comment above with the botanical name and explanation. Yes, In the video I did forget to explain the difference between the garden huckleberry and a true huckleberry because guess what, I am human just like you

    • @jamesdevlin6373
      @jamesdevlin6373 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RainCountryHomestead thank you for your patience with these morons who don't read the descriptions. I've tried those "Garden Huckleberrys" but I know they're not the real McCoy.
      Common names cause such confusion, I grow Jerusalem Artichokes, but people think I'm growing Globe Artichokes. I grow Cape Gooseberries (Phyllis) sometimes too, to add to the confusion when people ask me what they are. And my favourite fruit, Custard apples (Annona) are sometimes available in the local supermarket, but people think I'm raving about apples.
      I live in N.Ireland and in the future I hope to try to grow various Huckleberrys ( Vaccinium and Gaylussacia ) although Brexit has made getting seeds from abroad very difficult.
      Thanks for the info.

    • @jamesdevlin6373
      @jamesdevlin6373 ปีที่แล้ว

      bb bk Read the comment first before jumping down peoples throats.