Ryzen 3rd gen really was a huge cpu range, and introduced genuinely useable APU's even without a GPU. and thankfully led to a lot of OEM business machines being fitted with AM4 motherboards, so there is now a whole heap of easily upgradable budget desktops perfect for study/light gaming use
@@ScavengerFX You are correct but most people look at the 3000 series as being the 3rd gen. I refer to it as a series because the 1, 1+, 2, 2+....gets sort of annoying with some series featuring 3 different gen variations in them.
It's very well optimised, thought this system would have no chance but I bet there's quite a few out there with similar systems laughing to the bank. It did so well that I started the game at home on the main rig and it's beautiful.
Built a gaming PC in 2019 with a R7 2700 and RX580. Still own this system today. My son plays Roblox and surfs the internet. Asked him if he wanted me to upgrade it this past Christmas and he said no. He is happy with it as is.
Thanks for the shout-out and testing out Cyberpunk, that's actually a pretty good result from this system, definitely 'a bit' playable at those lower settings (although I agree that a console might work out better!) :)
Something that'd be funny, and a twist, is : Say you do a 2022/23 mid-range build. With an I3-12100f and RX 6700 10gb, 16-32GB of ram, 1tb gen 3 nvme ssd. And play early to mid2010s games. The point should be something like: 'Mid-ranged 2022/23 gaming PC would be a 1440p or 4k PC in 2014' or something. Let us appreciate the advancements in technology, from a video like that. Iceberg Tech has done videos similar to what I'm recommending.
I love seeing the bounds of older hardware my original pc I got was an old ibuy power system through amazon and it had a 3200g with no gpu granted it was my first pc and I wasn’t as tech savvy as I am now, but it was great.
A Ryzen 3 3100 would be a better choice for a period correct low cost 4-core CPU. I'm lucky enough to have a 3300X as well. I do have a 3200G for my GPU open air test rig normally. I really do enjoy your videos, you seem to have a great time while making them.
I have ryzen 5 3600 oc 4.55ghz 1.352v,aorus rx 5700xt (oc),16gb (2x8)ddr4 3200mhz cl16,aorus b450 pro(bios updated to latest)im happy with my pc i dont need more powerfull for now❤
It took me a while to figure out that the mark on my screen was actually on your wall just in line with your nose, it was said nose that covered it showing me that in fact it wasnt my screen after trying to clean it off several times .
I had a budget system as my main in 2019. I had just upgraded an i7-4790 optiplex with a 1050ti to a 1650s i got used for about $160 (they were $300 a year later) I remember playing games like Final Fantasy 12 zodiac, Dark souls remaster and dark souls 3, DayZ, Archeage, Fallout New Vegas (with a bunch of mods). Halo remaster, Mass Effect 3 (finally) I avoided stuff that wouldnt run great because theres always good older games that will run great.
I built a PC with a 2070 Super and a Ryzen 5 3600 back in 2019, and it is still perfectly usable for 1440p gaming. With the help of DLSS and FSR3 frame generation, I can squeeze out quite a bit of performance. For example, Black Myth Wokong/Space Marine 2 is more than playable with frame generation enabled.
6:50 Disable Fullscreen Optimization in Windows, this will fix the 1% lows being half the AVG fps, this is a Windows problem I myself have found in some games (EA SWBF1, Thief 4 to name a couple), typically when they're not actually running Exclusive Fullscreen..
There's really no reason to go with a 3200g anymore, when despite being an older gen the 2700x is in the same price bracket second hand and absolutely smokes the 3200g. I actually don't see a use case scenario for a 3200g anymore (or any quad core) in 2025 other than low power systems that are basically HTPCS that are for super casual gaming. Like sure if that's what you have, you work with it, but building a pc from scratch with a quad core today? No way. Actually here's an experiment Ryzen 1700 vs 3200g. The 1700 can be usually found for peanuts nowadays. Bigger cache, more cores slightly lower clock speed and marginally lower ipc vs the more modern architecture of the 3200g.
I5 4460 and GTX 1070 was a combo I used for my first Cyberpunk playthrough. Using Digital Foundry optimized setting, it was playable. I would go for RX 5600XT or even 5700XT with this CPU. 5500XT is definitely too weak.
I built my pc end of 2019 3600x/5600xt on a gigabyte aorus elite x570. Bios flashed it back in February 2023 for the 5800x3d/6950xt that’s been in it since. Running same 4x8 gskill 3200c14 since first built.
@TechLabUK If you have a board for it, would make a nice comparison. I think an OC around 4.2 might match this. Better yet, if you have a 900 series to go with it it'd make an overkill XP system.
A Ryzen 5 1600 would've been a better pick. In 2019 i believe they were going for right around $100 (new), and being a 6 core 12 thread part, they actually still hold up pretty well even to this day
Actually just a tick better than my 2019 build, which was: R3-1200AE RX 590 (bought on sale) ASRock B450m 256 Sata-SSD + 1TB HDD (later 1TB SSD) 550W PSU Worth noting that the 3200G is essentially a R3-1200AF (as in foxtrot). I don't recall an R3-2000 non-APU. Though the APUs had less PCIe lanes available, so it might have hampered the GPU a bit. x8 vs x16 lanes, iirc
Probably. The 3200G's were extremely popular though but it may have been because of how cheap they were, pretty sure I picked mine up in 2019 for like £80 brand new.
I know... I know... my parts are 2017 vintage. But I was going quite budget. And the RX 590 wasn't planned. I started with an Athlon 200ge build. But I needed more PCIe lanes, when the 590 was on sale, so I got the cheapest Ryzen available at the time. xD
The DI2 fluctuations are what I experienced on FC5 with my build, which promted me to up my CPU at the time. And the RAM. I did start with 2x4GB (Didn't know better) bu later went 2x8GB, less than 6 months later. Even with 16GB, I had stutters, so when I found the R7-1700x + mobo combo for cheaps, I went there.
It is probably a good thing that you didn't have a NVME SSD as I think that CPU only has 8 PCIe lanes so in the current set up it only has 8 lanes for the GPU and if you added a NVME drive those lanes would of been split between the GPU and SSD but not sure how much that would affect performance with that set up.
I thought a 3600 was budget back then? I don't know because I was still rocking a i5-6600K heavily overclocked and running DDR4. I guess it would have been similar performance to this system.
Related comment: I really dig the content on older gear- IF microsoft and component manufacturers supported drivers longer, we would only need to upgrade every 10 years. That isn't profitable though.
New poll. With all diy pc gamers being pushed to pay crazy rates for new tech we do not need as new release games are not fun, not optimised and have low to no upkeep by devs, HOW many of you are actually buying any games post 2022 (Elden Ring release) that are worth playing now and require any of the newest gear? I have older and newer pc rigs and of all crazy specs from the Nvidia 780 to the 1080ti and most recently the 7900gre and 4080 super. I dont play 1 game that would require I use anything newer than a ryzen 3700 paired with the 1080ti. Be honest, do you play/enjoy current triple A releases that require insanely expensive tech? There might be people that actually enjoy the Starfield title and Indiana Jones, I just have met any of them or know of anyone that plays any of the newer triple A games.
We were discussing this recently on X (Twitter) because a report stated that only 15% of Steam users spent time playing games from 2024. People mostly play older games.
@@TechLabUK I play Path of Exile 2 and a handful of other current releases and not 1 of them require me to play on anything higher than maybe a 7700xt for the highest settings. Some of the tech releasing is just following Apple's sales plan of, release new things and make people feel like they need it. We do not. I am ashamed at having spent 10s of thousands of pounds the last 6 years on tech I do not need and it took the 40 series Nvidia and 7K series AMD for me to wake up.
Cyberpunk 2077 wasn't released until 2020 and was at that time relatively poorly optimised for the PC, at least compared to the latest 2024/25 version. Your experience back in 2020 would have been markedly different because both today's AMD Adrenaline drivers and the game itself are far better optimised.
Technically everyone's "budget" is different but in general terms a "Budget" PC has always been prices around / just above the price of a games console. Also £500 for us is over $600 so systems like this, back then were $600 systems which is a good figure for a budget PC really.
Wtf is this budget build with rx 5500xt ☠️ even rx 580 is better than this crap.Compere to rx 580,rx 5500xt only has 4gb but rx 580 got 8gb and ryzen 3 3200g is very bad beacuse of 4c/4t. My budget build opinion is ryzen 5 3600, rx 6600 or rx 5700xt (used),16gb ddr4 3200mhz cl16,b450 chipset or b550m chipset and im using ryzen 5 3600 and rx 5700xt combo❤or vega 64 and vega 56 those gpu are still decent for prize
Quick correction, Doom Eternal was released in early 2020 not 2019 which means the system performed even better.
Ryzen 3rd gen really was a huge cpu range, and introduced genuinely useable APU's even without a GPU. and thankfully led to a lot of OEM business machines being fitted with AM4 motherboards, so there is now a whole heap of easily upgradable budget desktops perfect for study/light gaming use
Yes. This is true.
@@charlesuk5358 third gen Ryzen was the 5000 series
@@ScavengerFX You are correct but most people look at the 3000 series as being the 3rd gen. I refer to it as a series because the 1, 1+, 2, 2+....gets sort of annoying with some series featuring 3 different gen variations in them.
@@ScavengerFX I think you're thinking that Zen3 = third gen? There was Zen+ as well aka 2000 series, so Zen3 = fourth gen.
@@RuruFIN It's what AMD called them. Zen 3 was third gen Ryzen, the 5000 series.
Thanks for the mention mate! Glad to see this rig can play GoW Ragnarok pretty well. I love it when a game is optimised🔥🔥
It's very well optimised, thought this system would have no chance but I bet there's quite a few out there with similar systems laughing to the bank. It did so well that I started the game at home on the main rig and it's beautiful.
Built a gaming PC in 2019 with a R7 2700 and RX580. Still own this system today. My son plays Roblox and surfs the internet. Asked him if he wanted me to upgrade it this past Christmas and he said no. He is happy with it as is.
For 99% of gaming it's perfectly fine tbh.
Hi dad, I would like to do an upgrade
lol is that your son? he definitely is asking for upgrade.
@ My attorney advises me to not answer any questions. lol
just kidding
Thanks for the shout-out and testing out Cyberpunk, that's actually a pretty good result from this system, definitely 'a bit' playable at those lower settings (although I agree that a console might work out better!) :)
I was very surprised tbh, I thought Cyberpunk would have had its number but it did really well.
Something that'd be funny, and a twist, is : Say you do a 2022/23 mid-range build. With an I3-12100f and RX 6700 10gb, 16-32GB of ram, 1tb gen 3 nvme ssd. And play early to mid2010s games.
The point should be something like: 'Mid-ranged 2022/23 gaming PC would be a 1440p or 4k PC in 2014' or something.
Let us appreciate the advancements in technology, from a video like that. Iceberg Tech has done videos similar to what I'm recommending.
Great idea, I will see what I can do.
Great video. Love ProYamYamPC :)
I love seeing the bounds of older hardware my original pc I got was an old ibuy power system through amazon and it had a 3200g with no gpu granted it was my first pc and I wasn’t as tech savvy as I am now, but it was great.
Would have made a great first PC tbh. Newer APUs are pretty good now and can play most games.
Great PC 👍
A Ryzen 3 3100 would be a better choice for a period correct low cost 4-core CPU. I'm lucky enough to have a 3300X as well. I do have a 3200G for my GPU open air test rig normally. I really do enjoy your videos, you seem to have a great time while making them.
I just love tinkering with this stuff, seeing what it can do and helping others see all of this stuff is still useful.
I happen to have a 3100, 3400G, 5500 XT 8GB, and a GTX 1660. What would you say in the best pairing out of those parts?
Ryzen 5 3600 is best ❤
I have ryzen 5 3600 oc 4.55ghz 1.352v,aorus rx 5700xt (oc),16gb (2x8)ddr4 3200mhz cl16,aorus b450 pro(bios updated to latest)im happy with my pc i dont need more powerfull for now❤
It took me a while to figure out that the mark on my screen was actually on your wall just in line with your nose, it was said nose that covered it showing me that in fact it wasnt my screen after trying to clean it off several times .
lol yeah, I know which mark you mean. Hit it with a system once.
I had a budget system as my main in 2019. I had just upgraded an i7-4790 optiplex with a 1050ti to a 1650s i got used for about $160 (they were $300 a year later) I remember playing games like Final Fantasy 12 zodiac, Dark souls remaster and dark souls 3, DayZ, Archeage, Fallout New Vegas (with a bunch of mods). Halo remaster, Mass Effect 3 (finally) I avoided stuff that wouldnt run great because theres always good older games that will run great.
Kinda like my build. 1650 super, ryzen 3 3200g, 16gb ddr4 and a b450m mobo
The best part of it being AM4 is that it can be upgraded to a chip that came out in 2024 and an Intel B580 and get a budget 1440P gaming PC.
I built a PC with a 2070 Super and a Ryzen 5 3600 back in 2019, and it is still perfectly usable for 1440p gaming. With the help of DLSS and FSR3 frame generation, I can squeeze out quite a bit of performance. For example, Black Myth Wokong/Space Marine 2 is more than playable with frame generation enabled.
That's awesome! Really want to try an RTX 2070 Super because a lot of people tell me they still have it in them.
6:50 Disable Fullscreen Optimization in Windows, this will fix the 1% lows being half the AVG fps, this is a Windows problem I myself have found in some games (EA SWBF1, Thief 4 to name a couple), typically when they're not actually running Exclusive Fullscreen..
Cheers, will definitely give that a go because it's really annoying lol
There's really no reason to go with a 3200g anymore, when despite being an older gen the 2700x is in the same price bracket second hand and absolutely smokes the 3200g. I actually don't see a use case scenario for a 3200g anymore (or any quad core) in 2025 other than low power systems that are basically HTPCS that are for super casual gaming. Like sure if that's what you have, you work with it, but building a pc from scratch with a quad core today? No way. Actually here's an experiment Ryzen 1700 vs 3200g. The 1700 can be usually found for peanuts nowadays. Bigger cache, more cores slightly lower clock speed and marginally lower ipc vs the more modern architecture of the 3200g.
Pretty much exactly what they are good for now, low powered HTPCs that are for super casual gaming... or old games.
I5 4460 and GTX 1070 was a combo I used for my first Cyberpunk playthrough. Using Digital Foundry optimized setting, it was playable.
I would go for RX 5600XT or even 5700XT with this CPU. 5500XT is definitely too weak.
I built my pc end of 2019 3600x/5600xt on a gigabyte aorus elite x570. Bios flashed it back in February 2023 for the 5800x3d/6950xt that’s been in it since. Running same 4x8 gskill 3200c14 since first built.
Greatest thing about AM4 tbh
For perspective, this 3200G performs roughly the same as a slightly overclocked i5-2500K from 2011, or the N100 from 2023. How times do not change :)
Oh man the i5 2500k was a great CPU, pretty sure I still have one somewhere in a box.
@TechLabUK If you have a board for it, would make a nice comparison. I think an OC around 4.2 might match this. Better yet, if you have a 900 series to go with it it'd make an overkill XP system.
I had something similar but somehow better carrying me through pandemic. Ryzen 2600, rx 580 and 16 g ram. And a comfy 512 nvme, was good times
Was a great time, this is true. Not for buying new PC's obviously but for enjoying what you had.
A Ryzen 5 1600 would've been a better pick. In 2019 i believe they were going for right around $100 (new), and being a 6 core 12 thread part, they actually still hold up pretty well even to this day
Can confirm. First gen Ryzen 6 Core Chips are still good
Should try putting a intel arc b570 and see how it preforms
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 would be interesting 🤔
Actually just a tick better than my 2019 build, which was:
R3-1200AE
RX 590 (bought on sale)
ASRock B450m
256 Sata-SSD + 1TB HDD (later 1TB SSD)
550W PSU
Worth noting that the 3200G is essentially a R3-1200AF (as in foxtrot). I don't recall an R3-2000 non-APU.
Though the APUs had less PCIe lanes available, so it might have hampered the GPU a bit. x8 vs x16 lanes, iirc
Probably. The 3200G's were extremely popular though but it may have been because of how cheap they were, pretty sure I picked mine up in 2019 for like £80 brand new.
I know... I know... my parts are 2017 vintage.
But I was going quite budget.
And the RX 590 wasn't planned.
I started with an Athlon 200ge build.
But I needed more PCIe lanes, when the 590 was on sale, so I got the cheapest Ryzen available at the time. xD
The DI2 fluctuations are what I experienced on FC5 with my build, which promted me to up my CPU at the time.
And the RAM.
I did start with 2x4GB (Didn't know better) bu later went 2x8GB, less than 6 months later.
Even with 16GB, I had stutters, so when I found the R7-1700x + mobo combo for cheaps, I went there.
@ Yeah. A little more CPU and it clears right up (See next video lol)
You forgot to get into the car 😂
I did yeah lol I noticed that when editing the video, I just got too into playing lol
I have a Ryzen 5 2400G paired with GTX 1650 GDDR6 and it performs quite well on these titles.
Very similar setup and such a cool one too tbh. From the great days.
It is probably a good thing that you didn't have a NVME SSD as I think that CPU only has 8 PCIe lanes so in the current set up it only has 8 lanes for the GPU and if you added a NVME drive those lanes would of been split between the GPU and SSD but not sure how much that would affect performance with that set up.
Good point.
cant wait for the 2020 Gaming PC😅😅
I had R3 2200g and RX 580 4GB. It was fairly good on E-Sports lie CS GO or Dota 2.
I thought a 3600 was budget back then? I don't know because I was still rocking a i5-6600K heavily overclocked and running DDR4. I guess it would have been similar performance to this system.
Kind of, just not as budget as the Ryzen 3 3200G. The difference between £100 and £200 back then.
Related comment: I really dig the content on older gear- IF microsoft and component manufacturers supported drivers longer, we would only need to upgrade every 10 years. That isn't profitable though.
Pretty much... forced deprecation.
New poll. With all diy pc gamers being pushed to pay crazy rates for new tech we do not need as new release games are not fun, not optimised and have low to no upkeep by devs, HOW many of you are actually buying any games post 2022 (Elden Ring release) that are worth playing now and require any of the newest gear?
I have older and newer pc rigs and of all crazy specs from the Nvidia 780 to the 1080ti and most recently the 7900gre and 4080 super. I dont play 1 game that would require I use anything newer than a ryzen 3700 paired with the 1080ti.
Be honest, do you play/enjoy current triple A releases that require insanely expensive tech? There might be people that actually enjoy the Starfield title and Indiana Jones, I just have met any of them or know of anyone that plays any of the newer triple A games.
We were discussing this recently on X (Twitter) because a report stated that only 15% of Steam users spent time playing games from 2024. People mostly play older games.
@@TechLabUK I play Path of Exile 2 and a handful of other current releases and not 1 of them require me to play on anything higher than maybe a 7700xt for the highest settings. Some of the tech releasing is just following Apple's sales plan of, release new things and make people feel like they need it. We do not. I am ashamed at having spent 10s of thousands of pounds the last 6 years on tech I do not need and it took the 40 series Nvidia and 7K series AMD for me to wake up.
@ Yeah, I mean I do play the odd new AAA game but 90% of my gaming doesn't need more than an RX 5700XT tbh. Older games rule!
It looks fine to me.
I guess by turning vsync off you would have got much better 1% low in dead Island 2
Potentially, if you can lift the averages it can help but someone has given me a potential fix in the comments which I will try.
What case is that?
Tecware Nexus M2 Air.
Sure it can, but i need to watch the video now
Cyberpunk 2077 wasn't released until 2020 and was at that time relatively poorly optimised for the PC, at least compared to the latest 2024/25 version. Your experience back in 2020 would have been markedly different because both today's AMD Adrenaline drivers and the game itself are far better optimised.
If you aren't satisfied I'd gladly adopt that setup for free just to tell you how it copes 5 years from now.
I love them all, I mostly play old games myself with the odd new AAA so a system like this would do me ok tbh lol
My 2012 budget build can play new games, watch a talking.
a good budget CPU for 2019 was the Ryzen 5 3600, not the 3200G lol
The Ryzen 5 3600 was a legend but the Ryzen 3 was always the budget options.
doom eternal is 2020. pandemic game
Yes, you are correct. Even better :D
Why does the "BUDGET" PC from every decade cost $500
Technically everyone's "budget" is different but in general terms a "Budget" PC has always been prices around / just above the price of a games console. Also £500 for us is over $600 so systems like this, back then were $600 systems which is a good figure for a budget PC really.
Wtf is this budget build with rx 5500xt ☠️ even rx 580 is better than this crap.Compere to rx 580,rx 5500xt only has 4gb but rx 580 got 8gb and ryzen 3 3200g is very bad beacuse of 4c/4t. My budget build opinion is ryzen 5 3600, rx 6600 or rx 5700xt (used),16gb ddr4 3200mhz cl16,b450 chipset or b550m chipset and im using ryzen 5 3600 and rx 5700xt combo❤or vega 64 and vega 56 those gpu are still decent for prize