It's not 'spoiled' if the Idols willingly do it to please their fans. They do fanservice, and in return the fans gives them their loyalty. It's some kind of a service barter in the fandom, I think.
Most of these toxic fans are not even mature by age some are in their early 10's 😂🤣 mid 10's and early 20's 😂🤣 who were given internet connection to improve their knowledge but these immature kids just wanna be cool if someone in their friend circle like bts they would also like bts and search them on internet and in the end they would become one. Just think about it in olden days when internet was a luxury and not a necessity there was not so much hatred there were only magazines related to popular idol groups and they would be competing whose group song(notice it's song and not appearance which is indeed influenced by the friend circle) is good. As new idol groups(3rd gen and upcoming gen) are promoted through sns and social media which is widespread available because of internet and indeed many fake kpop overshadowed true fans and started spreading hatred against each fandom which was unnecessary and went out of control.
i know right for example in kingdom there were many armys in live chat sending comments about bts when that show is not related to bts still many armys kept sending bts love,bts💜 blablabla🙄 😒
This is really sad and undigestable that they have to hide their own personality and can't do anything even if it's about their life!! This is straight like a judicial system which doesn't have any punishment for crimes!!! TOXIC :(
For me the number 1 reason for K-pop fandoms toxicity nowadays is the kpop competition and voting systems. The constant music show votings, voting apps and such. it creates a HUGE fandom competition and fanwars are pre-programmed with this. Its not really about music anymore, only about votes, views, sales, awards, tweets(yes even who has more tweeted hashtags is a thing nowadays).
Being a non-Asian Kpop fan myself, the Kpop artists give off a feeling that you are a part of them, which is different from western and other artists. This is a nice feeling till u realize that that you are indulging way too deeply into their personal lives, which is deemed okay by other Kpop fans, to experience that kind of closeness.
I’m a Western Kpop fan (ARMY to be specific) I saw a live where Hoseok said “I’m not ok” (he was reading a comment I think, but I’m not sure) but I swear on everything, I was so scared for him.
Ofcourse every fandom has some part of sensitive fans. Never the whole fandom can be toxic. Kpop fandom is spoiled or too much free to do anything. People need to understand that they do not own the idol.
for everyone, this account belongs to periodt bish periodt, a cyber bully and kpop hater, she exposed herself many times in the channel kbuzz, she only pretends to be nice here to fool people and some support because she got exposed for using hate accounts like toxic positivity, uglisa is plastic, daesangless stay daesangless, jennie the mandu, chaelisoo blink etc, and her "stan" accounts are chaeberry, panda express, ace lalisa, lalisoo crackhead etc, she even bought fake subs for these accounts because she seriously thinks that looking popular would save her
Kpop fans 1. Hate mistreatment and overworked a idols but want at least 2 comebacks a year 2. Idols do so many fanservice that shippers really believe the idols date eachother and they are hiding it. That creates hate for other members for other ships and hate for the real gf or bf. 3. They feel entitled to actually approve or not the significant other like they actually know the idol. "he isn't for her", "he deserves better" bla bla. 4. Idols treat their fans so good but at to the point they actually make them believe they are the most important in their life, they are not. 5. Because of that they feel cheated on if they date, they feel wronged if they don't act always nice, flawless and like an angel, they just don't like that their idol have their own opinion. And most important, they never stop their own fans and called them out. 6. They aren't allowed to have anything but a angel image so don't smoke, don't drink, don't go clubbing, don't do tattoos, dont have "controversial" opinions (feminisim for example). And all this always with the permanent threat of "otherwise we are going to ruin your career". Disgusting.
Bc of those fans i feel really bad.And i'm not so proud of being a kpop fan.Everytime when i say a person that i'm a kpop fan they think that i'm a sasaeng,a shipper,a person who own the idols. :[ But i really like the music and the extras in kpop.I just want that the people who are working so hard and make me happy.To be happy. 😧☹
Yeah.... International fans are not even near KPOP artists and if they do have any problems with idols, all they can do is bash them on internet which sometimes can be ignored but some cases cannot be done so..... Th most close to them by physically or people who can reach out to them physically are Korean fans not international fans (Not all international fans can go to Korea, but if any artists do come to any other countries, there are people prying on their hotel rooms which can be really scary....)
No offense but a lot of international Kpop stans are toxic af and they mostly act so childish like they feel high and special just because they stan Kpop I’ve encountered and seen so many toxic stans in Twitter, TH-cam, Instagram 🥴
@@chaegucci I saw some too... They act so childish and do weird cringe worth things.... Even they do hating on many other idols like bashing at others just so that they can make their idols superior which is really annoying to be honest😑🙁🤦♀️ Also, I have seen many cases where when an idol goes to foreign countries they pry on their hotels.... You may know what happened with NCT when some fan girls pried NCT's bus🥲 in America I guess😶
Some managers do force their artists to change their style. Like how Taylor Swift or Zendaya for years were forced to keep their innocent image and when they changed people started criticizing them for acting like ' grown ups'!
@@sandysezy5312 no, I think Taylor chose to be the good girl and Zendaya did that because that's what she thought she should be to look more appealing. I don't know about Zendaya but I saw one of her own videos where she said she was the good happy girl because she thought that's how she should be. I know Taylor Swift was the good girl because it was in her documentary where she found her happiness in the compliments given to her by others. But then "that" scandal happened and she decided she had to change herself because living on others acceptance is toxic. I'm not sure but this is what I've seen. I feel like One Direction is more fitting for your narrative since they were highly controlled and when they split and made their own songs, they were criticised by some. Same goes for Miley Cyrus and many other Disney artists. Even Little Mix and Britney Spears.
k-pop stans are so used to have at least 3 mini albums/ a lot of content per year, they wouldn't survive a western pop era (at least 3 years; album promotion, performances, tour and hiatus)
The thing that western artist and kpop idols differ is that fans just laugh it off and dont think about much if its a western artist But if its kpop idol a whole history would be written on that mistake
I think the reason why the kpop community is so toxic/problematic in general is because its like, whatever the fans want, that's what the artist will do, causing the fans to be more controlling and and fans being spoiled causing them to be more damanding of their idols, compared to the more laid back western artists community where whatever the artist wants to do, that's what the fans get. (I think anyway, but I'm not saying western artist arent also pressured, they also work hard)
FANS who done love them for whatever THEY WANT TO DO are not real fans..they deserve to be themselves...they deserve to have a personal life and their own personality
I am so happy that I found a channel that shares the same opinion with me. I am pretty new to Kpop so I still have a lot of exploring to do, but the ones you talked about really peaked my interest. An other thing that I noticed are fans who try to push their own weird fantasy on the idols (like romantic shipping). I find it so disgusting that these REALLLL human beings get treated like dolls. Especially in male Kpop groups. I get that you don't want your bias to date someone other than yourself, but to push your twisted fantasy on them and make them act like they enjoy it goes to far (in my opinion). I think that the company's should creat a clear line between fanservice and real life, because some of the fans clearly don't know when to stop.
Same here. I’ve been listen to k-pop for about 2-3 years now but I’m from the west and I’ve been pretty casual about. I’ve pretty much treat k-pop the same way I do here in America. When I see all this weird ass shipping, and demand from fans, it creeps me out as to why it’s like that. And since the focus of this video is on the hardcore k-pop fans I agree with everything in this video needing to be said.
@@sosmooth13 Same here, I understand that shipping is a part of Kpop. But like can we enjoy Kpop without fans constantly bombarding us with there ships and weird fantasies.
The shippings.....like damn,these shit go too far.......too much fanservice.....what's more surprising is that fans want shipping bt they act disgusted when the idols come out as bisexuals.....these ppl be weird af
@@Eszti2000 well, this channel only made 3-4 videos without hating on other idols or without comparing, all videos of this channel is biased (this channel was made to tell news and facts but this channel is doing something else)
I think it's really something both artist/companies and fans have to change. I remember watching a vlive of Rosé promoting her solo and a korean fan asked her to botton up her shirt (we couldn't even see the beggining of her chest) and she did it, afraid of backlash. I imagine the power that gave to that toxic fan and the fear that was built inside Rosé for her to even care about that. The idols must notice the power they give to wrong people and the fans must know their places.
I'm still pissed off that Hyunjin had to go on hiatus because of a stupid quarrel between him and another school friend in eliminatary school. They were kids. Kids quarrel and name each other names.
yes dude ! but those toxic crazy fans are the one who vote aggressively , buy albums in huge no & also stream massively ! eg. Limited army will buy one album but an unlimited crazy army will by 10 to 20 albums ! this is what ent.s want !
@@poojarajan8911 every fans do it. Not just armys. Every fans are crazy for their faves.The difference is that ARMYS are huge in number . Why an army will buy 10 to 20 albums? Maximum 2 . Maybe that's your thinking. BTS didn't have that much fans they have come so far. There's something very special about them why people are crazy for them and they have huge no. Of fans . If those fans are trying to make sure that their faves always remain at the top then there's nothing wrong with it.
@@permissiontodance4075 yeah ! i just gave an example coz around me in my environment all are armies so i said as example ! i'm not blaming anyone fandom ! i know how exo-ls abotage Sehun , how blinks treat lisa badly , etc.
@@poojarajan8911 actually we can't control everyone. We mature and sensible armys also feel bad and helpless when some immature armys do some immature and foolish acts and people blame the whole fandom.
People(saesangs actually) should learn to respect an idol's privacy! Just looking at how hard idols work to give their fandom a content, y'all should give respect in return :)
I absolutely agree with you. Being from America I am saddened that the k-pop fans are so controlling and rude. These groups train so hard to bring us great music the fans should be grateful and support them. These kids are human, when they make a mistake just forgive them and help them to become better, not tear them down and be cruel. Thank you for this video. I appreciate it!
I want to see idols ( mostly big groups) to call out their fans when the fandom is going over board. I feel this is one of the reasons why kpop fans felt they have all the power over their idols coz the idols can't speak out due to fear of lossing their fans.
this video reminds me of the song Decalcoman by jungkook,he talked about the duality of his real personality jungkook and the singer jk who has to be perfect all the time,really we would never understand what they're going through
Yaa.. These are the same things which i found very strange when i first entered into kpop.. Kpop is good but the kpop fandom is literally scary... They think they own the idols and can do whatever they wanted with them.. I mean look at chens story.. What he did was very normal thing as a human.. He found his love and have a beautiful baby.. Instead of supporting him they just bashed him.. When i was watching a interview about what normal people think of idols dating one answer literally boiled my blood.. The person straight up said they feel betrayed as they spent money on the idols.i mean this is such a horrible answer... I too spend most of my money in a supermarket.. By this logic i should start claiming the store is mine as i spent soo much money on it... Instead of building a branch in next city they should have built it near my home.. Lol.. Please wake up.. Look if you are a true fan and have really interested in their music the personal life of artist shouldn't bother you as you are here for their music.. The companies are definitely to be blamed here.. They limit the interaction of idols.. They place a stricter dating ban and what not.. For these companies the idols are just a product.. Atleast the fans should understand and support them instead of bashing them for everything..
Those fans who say "he's/she's mine" they are not yours they belong to themselves and those shippers if you love your idol respect him/her don't ship Shipping doesn't mean that you love them alot or you're the only one who respects them You don't own the idol They hard work to make their fans happy but still you can't respect them
To everyone saying something like “every fandom I has people like this” they need to stop. I get it, you might feel attacked or might be taking it personally right now but it’s the truth and serious. Real change needs to be made and deflection is just another roadblock.
I like how they use Justin Bieber as an example of a USA singer's journey to stardom. These fans are immature that is why most of them are trolls. Why don't get why Kpop Stars don't get to date while USA Pop stars are allowed to date. American fans do equally terrible things to their favorite singer. This is why my country has less music groups because the kpop industry is so toxic and what not plus we mostly have solo singers. We have competition shows like the voice and American Idol to make people in to music stars. If Americans want to they be form boy groups and girl groups but it's only if they all sound amazing harmony. Ex: One Direction and Fifth Harmony. The US Pop industry is Shady but at least the companies let their singers be human beings unlike Kpop stars.
@@lebronjames5601 but still, it is better than having having the fandom being toxic to the point of having think that the fans own the person than letting them have their own lives
Exactly!!! Fans should stop over reacting... Idols are also humans... If these over reacting fans were in the place of Idols they couldn't stand it for a single day... "You won't understand the pain and sacrifice until you're in their shoes..."
This is something that happened lately: I saw a vd abt kpop songs which sound similar in which Hwasa's "Maria" intro was similar to a bollywood song "Aisi taisi". Kpop fans said it was "sampled". Had it been the other way round..what do u think have happened?..obviously say shit and throw hate right.😑
@KPOP and METAL"Aisi taisi" was released first. After some months "Maria" was released. Maria's intro is same as "aisi taisi". What I wanted to say is that , since it was the kpop song which sounded similar to other one...kpop fans are saying it's just sampled. But if it was the other way round..means other artist sounded similar to a kpop song...kpop fans would throw hate and say it is copied blah blah blah💀
No wonder some Idol's are driven to suicide too. The beauty obsession creeps me out. Like the way people go on and on about Cha Enwoo's looks over and over again behind his back or to his face. Don't get me wrong, he is very attractive, but sometimes he looks uncomfortable with the over the top compliments about his looks, even though he smiles. I do like how his fans always try to point out that there is more to Enwoo than his looks.
I don't think it's just a few toxic fans in a fandom. The entire kpop industry is set up to strip idols of their individualism and personal freedoms to become a living model of a "perfect" person that doesn't exist and is available to literally everyone to play out their fantasies with, monitor their personal lives, judge them, or harass them. Even when they walk off the stage, they are always putting on a show and paranoid because they know their lives aren't their own at any point. That's not because of a few fans. It's the entire industry that controls them. I have a love/hate relationship with kpop because of this and support any idols branching out of it professionally.
That's what happened when the idols are expected by companies and fans to be perfect from the very start instead of letting them evolved in the public eyes from nobody to somebody. I mean, why can't they follow Western model? Even J-Pop somewhat following Western models and their idols are relatively better off. It is refreshing to see the idols and artists evolved right in front of us.
Some J-Pop agencies also pay their trainees (example - Johnny'a Jr) while they're in training b/c they're already offered outside projects (TV guestings, back dancing for their senior groups/artists, CMs, etc.). Basically, training under agencies is already considered a job (probably to keep them motivated). They don't have to go through extreme measures such as plastic surgery or those deadly strict dieting, etc. There are toxic fans in J-Pop too, but cases such as what's shown in this video isn't as common. And if they get caught, these toxic fans do get in major trouble with the law.
@@adriannechikawotablog5466 I think another reason for the J-Pop idols to get paid while still under trainee contract, is to avoid legal issues associated with labour law and exploitation of workers. While the allowance as a trainee is not as high as full idols, the fact that the agencies rarely - if ever - impose all the training debts upon the idols and trainees gives them a better emotional and social safety net. All despite they are not as famous outside their own country. On the other hand, I do think the toxic culture of K-Pop rooted from the greed of the companies to capture the slice of the pie in the overly saturated industry. Their frightening tendency to forgo legal actions against the fans and neglecting the well being of the idols for the sake of their own wallet explains a lot of their actions to allow toxic fans behaviour.
00:28 - kpop treats idols like mass-produced products 02:42 - kpop makes fans think they own the idols 04:02 - kpop doesn’t take illegal actions seriously 05:51 - kpop encourages fans to overreact to idols’ mistakes
Sick Sick Sick fans, honestly. I am a big fan of a current Girl band. I see them as angels but Mortal Angels. It means behind the cameras, They are Humans just like me and I have no problem with that. Still gonna love them.
I think the main reason why people don't like idols dating is because they feel weird watching someone's girlfriend/boyfriend wife/husband dancing,singing and acting cute most toxic fans don't like it because they feel like they're idols are being taken away from them
The forgiving the little girl who sticked glue thing reminded me of the Jungkook incident where he playfully spanked in Jaehyun's back in a music show and a 11 year old boy accused of him of harassing Jae.But when Bighit(that time) took legal action against the boy some people said that bighit would have just let the little boy go, it could have a toll on his life and stuff like that.Like bruh just because he is young aged boy doesn’t mean he needs to learn about the things which could potentially ruin someone else's life not to mention how Jungkook didn't come live or in any social media platform for over a year.
The Taylor Swift example is so on point 🤘IDOLS can't date, can't open their sexual orientation, have to put on a mask, be someone you're not, they can't even do silly mistakes.. they'll be targeted massively... I love kpop but seriously I see their lives as literal hell .. I'd prefer western artist life.. we can only pray for a little openness and westernization in minds and beliefs of fans!! I hope they get a life they want to live on their own :(
One of the reasons I like pop fans is that they don't care who you are dating coz they know they have no chance with the artists and they're in it for the music
@@Danna-ek5hq or just western stans in general. I'm a (mostly) western fan myself and I literally don't care if my favourite artists are dating anyone, I'm here for the music and the extras. I have that same mindset for kpop honestly 😅
@@Danna-ek5hq yeah... I hope kpop fandoms can also be more like western fandoms... Less toxicity, no delusions, no fan wars, no annoying sasaengs... Competition is fine unless it leads to pointless arguments...
I AGREE 100 PERCENT.....Am an Multi stan in kpop but i hate how the fandom culture of feeling entitled to claim and own an idol as there your property,i hate it,i get the whole fantansy created to manipulate the celebrity and the fandoms as ''marketing bull s****"" .this is literal mental and emotional draining to peaple ,and its not ok
These are just some cases we know . Imagine how many horrible things fans did to kpop idols that we dont even know or never been publicly revealed . But at the end of the day they have to smile and act like nothing happend . please treat them as human.
I believe this is not just exclusive to K-pop, just more prevalent in K-pop. Regardless of the company, idols are not being protected enough and barely anyone who has done something malicious has been held accountable. I do agree with your points but I also think that in the end, it's still the decision of the person whether or not to write a hate comment. I feel like these toxic people have innate problems whether at home or elsewhere and they seek validation in wrong ways. I am interested in the psychology of this, why toxic fans do what they do. There definitely needs to be more study done to understand the issue on a personal and industry level so appropriate policies can be applied to mitigate it. It's just so out of control now.
I AGREE WITH YA! I don't have much to say cuz these were those things going inside my mind, I never really had chance to speak out and if I do I'm definitely going to get called out. I always see top comments like "All kpop fans are not like that" under these type of videos, but every kpop fan I know shows the same toxic behavior. Thank you for making this video, you are so brave! ❤
Thanks for creating this videos. This needs to be said to help the idols. Kpop fans, if the idol is struggling physically or emotionally, don’t “cheer” them on! Tell them it’s okay and get some rest or some help. Kpop fandom and the entertainment companies are straight up abusing their idols!
Does it matter, though? People in general should not even do that, whether it's an anti/akgae/sasaeng. No sane person will even have that idea cross their mind.
3:07 I agree, they might look easy but it's hard to "perfect" them so they look good. I'm not the type of girl who takes selfies constantly, so just when I feel like it. (I don't do what many of people do, I see something and first thing I think of is a selfie, nah not a fan xD) Basically I sometimes (because I've watched a lot of Kpop since I started to like it mid 2019) do those poses myself just to play around. But especially the "put your finger pointing at your face" one is hardcore. I don't even know how they can pull that of. (Years of training probably) :D
7:24 ikr like dude imagine being called out for cussing, how stupid is that? like bro I don't remember but this once, an a group forgot that their cam was on. One of them casually cussed like how we all do and fans went whackadoodle over this lmao. Like, how jobless and lame do you gotta be to hate on someone who cusses just like you?
stage 2: Once TXT was on a show (i forgot the name) and they were forced to do that cutsey stuff. You could see in Taehyuns eyes that he wanted to cry, he looked SOOOOOO miserable. The other members looked like they just wanted to leave the studio and never come back. ( the show was either, but not limited to: Weekly Idol, Doni & Coni, or Running Man
Kpop Stan who thinks they Know so much of an idols to the point of thinking they could marry an idol We know nothing about a Kpop idols, they are basically famous strangers
I like Kpop and pop but Kpop will always have a place in the heart but it’s kinda embarrassing that some of us are toxic like really and whenever I see a toxic fan I just ignore it and o also hate whenever Kpop fans are like OMG MY Jimin my mochi omg I hate whenever Kpop fans do that whenever people hear about kpop idols dating most of them hate I’m like ok you can hate an all but just don’t hurt them I’m always happy whenever Kpop idols date
Well this is sad cause they are humans they have their own lives they should have the freedom to do anything doesn't matter anybody likes it or not this is so messy that kpop is becoming toxic this way , at last this talented idols have nothing but to suicide it's sad that the companies doesn't do anything about this , things have to change otherwise we will lose many Beautiful people just let them behave the way they are we want human not anime characters to be built according to our likes I don't understand this fans would you like if anybody always controlled your life 24/7 this sounds psycho , please let them live peacefully
I'm a swiftie, yes Taylor dated so many times but she became HATED for it, also the Kanye west drama, actually Taylor is the one of the most hated artist in music industry. You see so many people leave mean comments anywhere about her. She suffered ED, anxiety and depression, she also gets attacked for no good reason but swiftie fandom is so big ofc we always cover that toxic things up by spreading love to her, but She is still hated. But I will love her no matter what
Most of these toxic fans are not even mature by age some are in their early 10's 😂🤣 mid 10's and early 20's 😂🤣 who were given internet connection to improve their knowledge but these immature kids just wanna be cool if someone in their friend circle like bts they would also like bts and search them on internet and in the end they would become one. Just think about it in olden days when internet was a luxury and not a necessity there was not so much hatred there were only magazines related to popular idol groups and they would be competing whose group song(notice it's song and not appearance which is indeed influenced by the friend circle) is good. As new idol groups(3rd gen and upcoming gen) are promoted through sns and social media which is widespread available because of internet and indeed many fake kpop overshadowed true fans and started spreading hatred against each fandom which was unnecessary and went out of control.
"K pop makes fans think they own the idols" lol this is so true af. Especially army bc i have see so many armys always say" bts only for us army" when bts have a dating rumors or something lol
From what I read, the Yunho situation was actually an anti-fan who did it(not that it makes it any better) but SM is rlly failing their idols not only with that but with the Aespa molka situation, them just forgetting about F(x) and never promoting them again...
In kpop , new fans can be really crazy at first ,they are obsessed and just don't think how much their actions and words can hurt their idols, but as time goes by they learn to be supportive and considerate to their idols and those who don't turn into sasaengs
The K-pop phenomena is disgusting. The music group members may have varied musical skills and influences, but they're jammed into a narrow mold. And I believe that the management don't care about the music group members' feelings, because they see them as replaceable. Control, train, and shame. Rinse and repeat. All of the K-pop toxicity makes me want to seek out non-K-pop musicians from South Korea--while they can still be found.
They don't deserve to be calling fans,idol are still human right?if you becoming idol,are you not human,are you pupet,doll or very perfect that people can control,harsh and do what they want to??🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄
There's a diffrence, we, the good fans knòw the diffrence between reality & imagination, those fake toxic punk fans don't, & they dònt have a life like we do, & Idols r stìll humanbeings wìth mistakes, just like everyone else!!!🙄😡😡
tbh what they did to yunho is unforgivable since he almost lost his life.. also apologized for doing nothing wrong...like what happened with people....
*When i entered kpop as a fans my friends stopped me & told me it's a addiction & toxicity ! i didn't care , i thought they don't like kpop , they hate kpop & they want me to hate it too that's why they say like that i thought , but only after 2 years of being kpop fans i realise that my friend were more that correct ! this is video just reminded me of my friend coz they said the same words & told that it will change me like them too ! but thank god i didn't go that far ! i just stop my self toill the limit { watch bp& bts mvs, funny videos of bts & bp when bored , beboss tv} but i mistakenly got into that KBUZZ channel ! i hate that channel but i'm not able to come out of it !*
I would say those fans are rlly toxic, and they're spoiled it's not easy to deal with these kind of peeps, I just wanna wish nobody has to ever deal with this but ofc there will still be toxic fans in the end of the day but we good fans love caring and appreciate out idols, pls take care everybody and have a good day/night!!
I have a hard time calling kpop idols artist because although there are some groups like bts that are part of the songwriting process and have a bit of control (not much compared to westen artist) they still have to behave like idols (like they are perfect). As soon idols get out of the idol image, fans start hate them when they originally claim that they loved them.
I think it's not just the company that create overly loyal & overly scrutinous fans...which is doesn't exist in another place in this planet...but maybe that's also a traditional way of thinking of people of the country...seeking conformity perfection...
I feel bad for idols and peaceful fans suffering because of OVERREACTING, TOXIC KPOP FANS. Bruh literally must boycott very innocent kpop idols? Literally hell, kpop must have change, should make things more chill. Whats wrong when kpop idols have relationship? Why must randomly ship different idols? Do you even own them? 🤦♂️😤😞 Why do some channels just make negative comments for no reason? @K-buzz? Those people should really need to watch this video. There is no reason to even dislike this video too. This channel said what I feel about kpop. Those people really need to learn.
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Do you have any other reason for how most K-pop fans were spoiled? Let us know by commenting down below! 👂👂👂
It's not 'spoiled' if the Idols willingly do it to please their fans. They do fanservice, and in return the fans gives them their loyalty. It's some kind of a service barter in the fandom, I think.
fully Agree with what you say. THE COMPANIES encourage the behaviour.
@@goku_lovesu7496 oh, no. they surely do not act act like that bcz they simply want to
Most of these toxic fans are not even mature by age some are in their early 10's 😂🤣 mid 10's and early 20's 😂🤣 who were given internet connection to improve their knowledge but these immature kids just wanna be cool if someone in their friend circle like bts they would also like bts and search them on internet and in the end they would become one. Just think about it in olden days when internet was a luxury and not a necessity there was not so much hatred there were only magazines related to popular idol groups and they would be competing whose group song(notice it's song and not appearance which is indeed influenced by the friend circle) is good. As new idol groups(3rd gen and upcoming gen) are promoted through sns and social media which is widespread available because of internet and indeed many fake kpop overshadowed true fans and started spreading hatred against each fandom which was unnecessary and went out of control.
@@abhilashmehera3813 the group i like is literally 2nd gen and their fandom is not toxic like this
Well yes not all of them but many of them like always bragging about their favourite group when they are not even reailted sometimes
i know right
for example in kingdom there were many armys in live chat sending
comments about bts when that show is not related to bts still many armys kept sending bts love,bts💜 blablabla🙄
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its not only about armys every fandom does this
@@Twice_candy yeah every fandom does that...but I did notice that some say that when they are not even in the show
Me being a Multi-fandom Stan: "being like why is it like this?"
@@saffyesperas2278 same, why people are like that
This is really sad and undigestable that they have to hide their own personality and can't do anything even if it's about their life!! This is straight like a judicial system which doesn't have any punishment for crimes!!! TOXIC :(
For me the number 1 reason for K-pop fandoms toxicity nowadays is the kpop competition and voting systems.
The constant music show votings, voting apps and such. it creates a HUGE fandom competition and fanwars are pre-programmed with this.
Its not really about music anymore, only about votes, views, sales, awards, tweets(yes even who has more tweeted hashtags is a thing nowadays).
Yes, this.
Mnet......
So true
Being a non-Asian Kpop fan myself, the Kpop artists give off a feeling that you are a part of them, which is different from western and other artists. This is a nice feeling till u realize that that you are indulging way too deeply into their personal lives, which is deemed okay by other Kpop fans, to experience that kind of closeness.
Too much closeness that makes you possessive
I’m a Western Kpop fan (ARMY to be specific) I saw a live where Hoseok said “I’m not ok” (he was reading a comment I think, but I’m not sure) but I swear on everything, I was so scared for him.
I agree.
agreed on the next level
So true!!
Ofcourse every fandom has some part of sensitive fans. Never the whole fandom can be toxic. Kpop fandom is spoiled or too much free to do anything.
People need to understand that they do not own the idol.
for everyone, this account belongs to periodt bish periodt, a cyber bully and kpop hater, she exposed herself many times in the channel kbuzz, she only pretends to be nice here to fool people and some support because she got exposed for using hate accounts like toxic positivity, uglisa is plastic, daesangless stay daesangless, jennie the mandu, chaelisoo blink etc, and her "stan" accounts are chaeberry, panda express, ace lalisa, lalisoo crackhead etc, she even bought fake subs for these accounts because she seriously thinks that looking popular would save her
This is the 2nd time I'm reading your comment and it's the 1st time I saw your comment on a kpop related video .
@@pruitsrajak8901 OK , thanks for telling
@@nowrin_8193
Okay wdym anyways
@@Katt_Holmes00921 ok thanks for believing someone without any proof
Kpop fans
1. Hate mistreatment and overworked a idols but want at least 2 comebacks a year
2. Idols do so many fanservice that shippers really believe the idols date eachother and they are hiding it. That creates hate for other members for other ships and hate for the real gf or bf.
3. They feel entitled to actually approve or not the significant other like they actually know the idol. "he isn't for her", "he deserves better" bla bla.
4. Idols treat their fans so good but at to the point they actually make them believe they are the most important in their life, they are not.
5. Because of that they feel cheated on if they date, they feel wronged if they don't act always nice, flawless and like an angel, they just don't like that their idol have their own opinion. And most important, they never stop their own fans and called them out.
6. They aren't allowed to have anything but a angel image so don't smoke, don't drink, don't go clubbing, don't do tattoos, dont have "controversial" opinions (feminisim for example).
And all this always with the permanent threat of "otherwise we are going to ruin your career".
Disgusting.
FACTS
Bc of those fans i feel really bad.And i'm not so proud of being a kpop fan.Everytime when i say a person that i'm a kpop fan they think that i'm a sasaeng,a shipper,a person who own the idols. :[ But i really like the music and the extras in kpop.I just want that the people who are working so hard and make me happy.To be happy. 😧☹
@Meh It’s Me YES.☺💖😌
@Meh It’s Me yesss 👏🏽👏🏽
@Meh It’s Me Yeah 💗💗💗
I think rather than international fans, this points mostly go with the Korean ones. K-fans should watch this
Yeah it feels like international fans are often more chill than k-fans
@@erikkling4791 "Western fans" Im asian (indian). Please, specify next time.
Yeah.... International fans are not even near KPOP artists and if they do have any problems with idols, all they can do is bash them on internet which sometimes can be ignored but some cases cannot be done so.....
Th most close to them by physically or people who can reach out to them physically are Korean fans not international fans (Not all international fans can go to Korea, but if any artists do come to any other countries, there are people prying on their hotel rooms which can be really scary....)
No offense but a lot of international Kpop stans are toxic af and they mostly act so childish like they feel high and special just because they stan Kpop I’ve encountered and seen so many toxic stans in Twitter, TH-cam, Instagram 🥴
@@chaegucci I saw some too... They act so childish and do weird cringe worth things.... Even they do hating on many other idols like bashing at others just so that they can make their idols superior which is really annoying to be honest😑🙁🤦♀️
Also, I have seen many cases where when an idol goes to foreign countries they pry on their hotels....
You may know what happened with NCT when some fan girls pried NCT's bus🥲 in America I guess😶
I like both k-pop and pop
But I like pop culture better because they don't force them to change their styles
Some managers do force their artists to change their style. Like how Taylor Swift or Zendaya for years were forced to keep their innocent image and when they changed people started criticizing them for acting like ' grown ups'!
Yeah like Little mix
@@sandysezy5312 no, I think Taylor chose to be the good girl and Zendaya did that because that's what she thought she should be to look more appealing. I don't know about Zendaya but I saw one of her own videos where she said she was the good happy girl because she thought that's how she should be. I know Taylor Swift was the good girl because it was in her documentary where she found her happiness in the compliments given to her by others. But then "that" scandal happened and she decided she had to change herself because living on others acceptance is toxic. I'm not sure but this is what I've seen.
I feel like One Direction is more fitting for your narrative since they were highly controlled and when they split and made their own songs, they were criticised by some. Same goes for Miley Cyrus and many other Disney artists. Even Little Mix and Britney Spears.
@@t.ris_a kazakh singer dimash kudaibergen too
I seem to remember pink was told to change everything about her from LA Reid.
k-pop stans are so used to have at least 3 mini albums/ a lot of content per year, they wouldn't survive a western pop era (at least 3 years; album promotion, performances, tour and hiatus)
everybody loves to say stuff like “don’t overwork them
The thing that western artist and kpop idols differ is that fans just laugh it off and dont think about much if its a western artist
But if its kpop idol a whole history would be written on that mistake
I think the reason why the kpop community is so toxic/problematic in general is because its like, whatever the fans want, that's what the artist will do, causing the fans to be more controlling and and fans being spoiled causing them to be more damanding of their idols, compared to the more laid back western artists community where whatever the artist wants to do, that's what the fans get.
(I think anyway, but I'm not saying western artist arent also pressured, they also work hard)
Facts!
*Period*
Some kpop stans seem to think western artists have everything given to them and that they don't even work hard 🙄
@@t.ris_ yeah I agree to you.
Ex. Some ARMY belitting ariana and lady Gaga because BTS lost Grammy.,🤦🤦🤦🤦
FANS who done love them for whatever THEY WANT TO DO are not real fans..they deserve to be themselves...they deserve to have a personal life and their own personality
If this video offended someone, there are chances that that person is a toxic fan.
Kpop fans are loosing their morality 🙂 that's the saddest thing ever
Right It's sad that some fans dedicate their whole life to some person who's across the entire world.
Couldn't agree more.
I don't wanna be a part of the kpop fanbase. It will too toxic out there
I am so happy that I found a channel that shares the same opinion with me. I am pretty new to Kpop so I still have a lot of exploring to do, but the ones you talked about really peaked my interest. An other thing that I noticed are fans who try to push their own weird fantasy on the idols (like romantic shipping). I find it so disgusting that these REALLLL human beings get treated like dolls. Especially in male Kpop groups. I get that you don't want your bias to date someone other than yourself, but to push your twisted fantasy on them and make them act like they enjoy it goes to far (in my opinion). I think that the company's should creat a clear line between fanservice and real life, because some of the fans clearly don't know when to stop.
Same here. I’ve been listen to k-pop for about 2-3 years now but I’m from the west and I’ve been pretty casual about. I’ve pretty much treat k-pop the same way I do here in America. When I see all this weird ass shipping, and demand from fans, it creeps me out as to why it’s like that. And since the focus of this video is on the hardcore k-pop fans I agree with everything in this video needing to be said.
@@sosmooth13 Same here, I understand that shipping is a part of Kpop. But like can we enjoy Kpop without fans constantly bombarding us with there ships and weird fantasies.
The shippings.....like damn,these shit go too far.......too much fanservice.....what's more surprising is that fans want shipping bt they act disgusted when the idols come out as bisexuals.....these ppl be weird af
@@Eszti2000 well, this channel only made 3-4 videos without hating on other idols or without comparing, all videos of this channel is biased (this channel was made to tell news and facts but this channel is doing something else)
I think it's really something both artist/companies and fans have to change. I remember watching a vlive of Rosé promoting her solo and a korean fan asked her to botton up her shirt (we couldn't even see the beggining of her chest) and she did it, afraid of backlash. I imagine the power that gave to that toxic fan and the fear that was built inside Rosé for her to even care about that. The idols must notice the power they give to wrong people and the fans must know their places.
I'm still pissed off that Hyunjin had to go on hiatus because of a stupid quarrel between him and another school friend in eliminatary school. They were kids. Kids quarrel and name each other names.
I'm sad about that to this very day
Every fandom has some toxic and immature fans you can't expect all of them to be mature and not only in kpop
yes dude ! but those toxic crazy fans are the one who vote aggressively , buy albums in huge no & also stream massively ! eg. Limited army will buy one album but an unlimited crazy army will by 10 to 20 albums ! this is what ent.s want !
@@poojarajan8911 every fans do it. Not just armys. Every fans are crazy for their faves.The difference is that ARMYS are huge in number . Why an army will buy 10 to 20 albums? Maximum 2 . Maybe that's your thinking. BTS didn't have that much fans they have come so far. There's something very special about them why people are crazy for them and they have huge no. Of fans . If those fans are trying to make sure that their faves always remain at the top then there's nothing wrong with it.
@@permissiontodance4075 yeah ! i just gave an example coz around me in my environment all are armies so i said as example ! i'm not blaming anyone fandom ! i know how exo-ls abotage Sehun , how blinks treat lisa badly , etc.
@@poojarajan8911 actually we can't control everyone. We mature and sensible armys also feel bad and helpless when some immature armys do some immature and foolish acts and people blame the whole fandom.
@@permissiontodance4075 yeah ! what to do ! coz of these immatures , all are blammed & the hate rises for our boys[oppas] !
This is true. But, this happens in many different communities.
People(saesangs actually) should learn to respect an idol's privacy!
Just looking at how hard idols work to give their fandom a content, y'all should give respect in return :)
Don't forget the Antis (or whatever you call them), they are dead set in ruining other KPop artist/bands that they despise. They're reverse saesangs.
I absolutely agree with you. Being from America I am saddened that the k-pop fans are so controlling and rude. These groups train so hard to bring us great music the fans should be grateful and support them. These kids are human, when they make a mistake just forgive them and help them to become better, not tear them down and be cruel. Thank you for this video. I appreciate it!
This is really sad. I really want to become a kpop idol and show them that KPOP idols are human too, they have feelings.
Well what company are you going to take you have to chose between SM, JYP, or YG
I want to see idols ( mostly big groups) to call out their fans when the fandom is going over board. I feel this is one of the reasons why kpop fans felt they have all the power over their idols coz the idols can't speak out due to fear of lossing their fans.
The Tzuyu incident gets on my last nerves! Why did she have to apologize for waving her home country’s flag?? The heck is wrong with those netizens
this video reminds me of the song Decalcoman by jungkook,he talked about the duality of his real personality jungkook and the singer jk who has to be perfect all the time,really we would never understand what they're going through
Yaa.. These are the same things which i found very strange when i first entered into kpop.. Kpop is good but the kpop fandom is literally scary... They think they own the idols and can do whatever they wanted with them.. I mean look at chens story.. What he did was very normal thing as a human.. He found his love and have a beautiful baby.. Instead of supporting him they just bashed him.. When i was watching a interview about what normal people think of idols dating one answer literally boiled my blood.. The person straight up said they feel betrayed as they spent money on the idols.i mean this is such a horrible answer... I too spend most of my money in a supermarket.. By this logic i should start claiming the store is mine as i spent soo much money on it... Instead of building a branch in next city they should have built it near my home.. Lol.. Please wake up.. Look if you are a true fan and have really interested in their music the personal life of artist shouldn't bother you as you are here for their music.. The companies are definitely to be blamed here.. They limit the interaction of idols.. They place a stricter dating ban and what not.. For these companies the idols are just a product.. Atleast the fans should understand and support them instead of bashing them for everything..
Your comment made me laugh 😂 but that is so true. I like your logic!
@@nadjaofantipaxos1588 thank u
Your comment is so true. I totally agree
Those fans who say "he's/she's mine" they are not yours they belong to themselves
and those shippers if you love your idol respect him/her don't ship
Shipping doesn't mean that you love them alot or you're the only one who respects them
You don't own the idol
They hard work to make their fans happy but still you can't respect them
But shipping can be ok as long as it's kept to oneself and isn't harming anyone ?
@@sanaaslam7153 but people don't do that they make big drama out of it
@@jimimstinylittlehands312 that is also true
@@sanaaslam7153 yeah
To everyone saying something like “every fandom I has people like this” they need to stop. I get it, you might feel attacked or might be taking it personally right now but it’s the truth and serious. Real change needs to be made and deflection is just another roadblock.
TVXQ Yunho's poison incident is still so terrifying that orange juice with glue almost killed him and he even had trauma about it
I like how they use Justin Bieber as an example of a USA singer's journey to stardom.
These fans are immature that is why most of them are trolls.
Why don't get why Kpop Stars don't get to date while USA Pop stars are allowed to date.
American fans do equally terrible things to their favorite singer.
This is why my country has less music groups because the kpop industry is so toxic and what not plus we mostly have solo singers.
We have competition shows like the voice and American Idol to make people in to music stars. If Americans want to they be form boy groups and girl groups but it's only if they all sound amazing harmony. Ex: One Direction and Fifth Harmony.
The US Pop industry is Shady but at least the companies let their singers be human beings unlike Kpop stars.
Also Justin Bieber is Canadian!
@@lebronjames5601 but still, it is better than having having the fandom being toxic to the point of having think that the fans own the person than letting them have their own lives
Some kpop fans can really harm idols
Well i can't even imagine how their family members have feel when these things happen to their son or daughter...
Exactly!!! Fans should stop over reacting... Idols are also humans...
If these over reacting fans were in the place of Idols they couldn't stand it for a single day...
"You won't understand the pain and sacrifice until you're in their shoes..."
This is something that happened lately:
I saw a vd abt kpop songs which sound similar in which Hwasa's "Maria" intro was similar to a bollywood song "Aisi taisi". Kpop fans said it was "sampled". Had it been the other way round..what do u think have happened?..obviously say shit and throw hate right.😑
@KPOP and METAL"Aisi taisi" was released first. After some months "Maria" was released. Maria's intro is same as "aisi taisi".
What I wanted to say is that , since it was the kpop song which sounded similar to other one...kpop fans are saying it's just sampled.
But if it was the other way round..means other artist sounded similar to a kpop song...kpop fans would throw hate and say it is copied blah blah blah💀
Kpop idols should have the freedom of doing what they are good at. And entertainment companies should really allow there idols to be thereselfs.
No wonder some Idol's are driven to suicide too. The beauty obsession creeps me out. Like the way people go on and on about Cha Enwoo's looks over and over again behind his back or to his face. Don't get me wrong, he is very attractive, but sometimes he looks uncomfortable with the over the top compliments about his looks, even though he smiles. I do like how his fans always try to point out that there is more to Enwoo than his looks.
True
I don't think it's just a few toxic fans in a fandom. The entire kpop industry is set up to strip idols of their individualism and personal freedoms to become a living model of a "perfect" person that doesn't exist and is available to literally everyone to play out their fantasies with, monitor their personal lives, judge them, or harass them. Even when they walk off the stage, they are always putting on a show and paranoid because they know their lives aren't their own at any point. That's not because of a few fans. It's the entire industry that controls them. I have a love/hate relationship with kpop because of this and support any idols branching out of it professionally.
That's what happened when the idols are expected by companies and fans to be perfect from the very start instead of letting them evolved in the public eyes from nobody to somebody.
I mean, why can't they follow Western model? Even J-Pop somewhat following Western models and their idols are relatively better off. It is refreshing to see the idols and artists evolved right in front of us.
Some J-Pop agencies also pay their trainees (example - Johnny'a Jr) while they're in training b/c they're already offered outside projects (TV guestings, back dancing for their senior groups/artists, CMs, etc.). Basically, training under agencies is already considered a job (probably to keep them motivated). They don't have to go through extreme measures such as plastic surgery or those deadly strict dieting, etc.
There are toxic fans in J-Pop too, but cases such as what's shown in this video isn't as common. And if they get caught, these toxic fans do get in major trouble with the law.
@@adriannechikawotablog5466 I think another reason for the J-Pop idols to get paid while still under trainee contract, is to avoid legal issues associated with labour law and exploitation of workers. While the allowance as a trainee is not as high as full idols, the fact that the agencies rarely - if ever - impose all the training debts upon the idols and trainees gives them a better emotional and social safety net. All despite they are not as famous outside their own country.
On the other hand, I do think the toxic culture of K-Pop rooted from the greed of the companies to capture the slice of the pie in the overly saturated industry. Their frightening tendency to forgo legal actions against the fans and neglecting the well being of the idols for the sake of their own wallet explains a lot of their actions to allow toxic fans behaviour.
I feel what is the point of being an idol when you're not even true to yourself. We need more companies who can treat them correctly
00:28 - kpop treats idols like mass-produced products
02:42 - kpop makes fans think they own the idols
04:02 - kpop doesn’t take illegal actions seriously
05:51 - kpop encourages fans to overreact to idols’ mistakes
You’re a God
Sick Sick Sick fans, honestly.
I am a big fan of a current Girl band. I see them as angels but Mortal Angels. It means behind the cameras, They are Humans just like me and I have no problem with that. Still gonna love them.
the most ridiculous thing in kpop is fans forbid kpop idol from marrying their love or even dating. its their life bruh not yours
I think the main reason why people don't like idols dating is because they feel weird watching someone's girlfriend/boyfriend wife/husband dancing,singing and acting cute most toxic fans don't like it because they feel like they're idols are being taken away from them
The forgiving the little girl who sticked glue thing reminded me of the Jungkook incident where he playfully spanked in Jaehyun's back in a music show and a 11 year old boy accused of him of harassing Jae.But when Bighit(that time) took legal action against the boy some people said that bighit would have just let the little boy go, it could have a toll on his life and stuff like that.Like bruh just because he is young aged boy doesn’t mean he needs to learn about the things which could potentially ruin someone else's life not to mention how Jungkook didn't come live or in any social media platform for over a year.
The Taylor Swift example is so on point 🤘IDOLS can't date, can't open their sexual orientation, have to put on a mask, be someone you're not, they can't even do silly mistakes.. they'll be targeted massively... I love kpop but seriously I see their lives as literal hell .. I'd prefer western artist life.. we can only pray for a little openness and westernization in minds and beliefs of fans!! I hope they get a life they want to live on their own :(
One of the reasons I like pop fans is that they don't care who you are dating coz they know they have no chance with the artists and they're in it for the music
@@Danna-ek5hq or just western stans in general. I'm a (mostly) western fan myself and I literally don't care if my favourite artists are dating anyone, I'm here for the music and the extras. I have that same mindset for kpop honestly 😅
@@notgargi003 that is why I like your fandoms more coz you guys only came for the music not to objectify the artists
@@Danna-ek5hq yeah... I hope kpop fandoms can also be more like western fandoms... Less toxicity, no delusions, no fan wars, no annoying sasaengs... Competition is fine unless it leads to pointless arguments...
@@notgargi003 yeah
I AGREE 100 PERCENT.....Am an Multi stan in kpop but i hate how the fandom culture of feeling entitled to claim and own an idol as there your property,i hate it,i get the whole fantansy created to manipulate the celebrity and the fandoms as ''marketing bull s****"" .this is literal mental and emotional draining to peaple ,and its not ok
"U remember the scary case of tvxq's yunho back in 2006?"
Me who was literally born in 2005 : 👁👄👁
These are just some cases we know . Imagine how many horrible things fans did to kpop idols that we dont even know or never been publicly revealed . But at the end of the day they have to smile and act like nothing happend .
please treat them as human.
I believe this is not just exclusive to K-pop, just more prevalent in K-pop. Regardless of the company, idols are not being protected enough and barely anyone who has done something malicious has been held accountable. I do agree with your points but I also think that in the end, it's still the decision of the person whether or not to write a hate comment. I feel like these toxic people have innate problems whether at home or elsewhere and they seek validation in wrong ways. I am interested in the psychology of this, why toxic fans do what they do. There definitely needs to be more study done to understand the issue on a personal and industry level so appropriate policies can be applied to mitigate it. It's just so out of control now.
I AGREE WITH YA! I don't have much to say cuz these were those things going inside my mind, I never really had chance to speak out and if I do I'm definitely going to get called out. I always see top comments like "All kpop fans are not like that" under these type of videos, but every kpop fan I know shows the same toxic behavior.
Thank you for making this video, you are so brave! ❤
Thanks for creating this videos. This needs to be said to help the idols. Kpop fans, if the idol is struggling physically or emotionally, don’t “cheer” them on! Tell them it’s okay and get some rest or some help. Kpop fandom and the entertainment companies are straight up abusing their idols!
Not the whole fandom but toxic fans please be specific
From what I read about Yunho and the orange juice incident - she was an anti-fan, not a sasaeng fan, who poisoned his drink.
Does it matter, though? People in general should not even do that, whether it's an anti/akgae/sasaeng. No sane person will even have that idea cross their mind.
7:25 this guy is a hero
IU’s body guard is the best out there
3:07 I agree, they might look easy but it's hard to "perfect" them so they look good.
I'm not the type of girl who takes selfies constantly, so just when I feel like it. (I don't do what many of people do, I see something and first thing I think of is a selfie, nah not a fan xD)
Basically I sometimes (because I've watched a lot of Kpop since I started to like it mid 2019) do those poses myself just to play around.
But especially the "put your finger pointing at your face" one is hardcore. I don't even know how they can pull that of. (Years of training probably) :D
The price is too high to pay. It makes me very sad
7:24 ikr like dude imagine being called out for cussing, how stupid is that? like bro I don't remember but this once, an a group forgot that their cam was on. One of them casually cussed like how we all do and fans went whackadoodle over this lmao. Like, how jobless and lame do you gotta be to hate on someone who cusses just like you?
stage 2:
Once TXT was on a show (i forgot the name) and they were forced to do that cutsey stuff. You could see in Taehyuns eyes that he wanted to cry, he looked SOOOOOO miserable. The other members looked like they just wanted to leave the studio and never come back.
( the show was either, but not limited to: Weekly Idol, Doni & Coni, or Running Man
Everything you just said is true
like I can't disagree
Kpop Stan who thinks they Know so much of an idols to the point of thinking they could marry an idol
We know nothing about a Kpop idols, they are basically famous strangers
This is the best video on Fandoms I have seen.. It's really well made🔥🔥
Sometimes, I hate kpop fandom cause sometimes they forget their limit and treat their idol like doll.
I like Kpop and pop but Kpop will always have a place in the heart but it’s kinda embarrassing that some of us are toxic like really and whenever I see a toxic fan I just ignore it and o also hate whenever Kpop fans are like OMG MY Jimin my mochi omg I hate whenever Kpop fans do that whenever people hear about kpop idols dating most of them hate I’m like ok you can hate an all but just don’t hurt them I’m always happy whenever Kpop idols date
Well this is sad cause they are humans they have their own lives they should have the freedom to do anything doesn't matter anybody likes it or not this is so messy that kpop is becoming toxic this way , at last this talented idols have nothing but to suicide it's sad that the companies doesn't do anything about this , things have to change otherwise we will lose many Beautiful people just let them behave the way they are we want human not anime characters to be built according to our likes I don't understand this fans would you like if anybody always controlled your life 24/7 this sounds psycho , please let them live peacefully
Also being a one direction fan I can say you, its more comfortable and lax in that Fandom than being a kpop stan.
This is true as we all know there is a life behinde kpop we shouldn't forget it.
I'm a swiftie, yes Taylor dated so many times but she became HATED for it, also the Kanye west drama, actually Taylor is the one of the most hated artist in music industry. You see so many people leave mean comments anywhere about her. She suffered ED, anxiety and depression, she also gets attacked for no good reason but swiftie fandom is so big ofc we always cover that toxic things up by spreading love to her, but She is still hated. But I will love her no matter what
It's a very informative video. Thank you!
We need to keep people in check so things like that doesn't happen and stand up for whats right.
Most of these toxic fans are not even mature by age some are in their early 10's 😂🤣 mid 10's and early 20's 😂🤣 who were given internet connection to improve their knowledge but these immature kids just wanna be cool if someone in their friend circle like bts they would also like bts and search them on internet and in the end they would become one. Just think about it in olden days when internet was a luxury and not a necessity there was not so much hatred there were only magazines related to popular idol groups and they would be competing whose group song(notice it's song and not appearance which is indeed influenced by the friend circle) is good. As new idol groups(3rd gen and upcoming gen) are promoted through sns and social media which is widespread available because of internet and indeed many fake kpop overshadowed true fans and started spreading hatred against each fandom which was unnecessary and went out of control.
"K pop makes fans think they own the idols" lol this is so true af. Especially army bc i have see so many armys always say" bts only for us army" when bts have a dating rumors or something lol
From what I read, the Yunho situation was actually an anti-fan who did it(not that it makes it any better) but SM is rlly failing their idols not only with that but with the Aespa molka situation, them just forgetting about F(x) and never promoting them again...
Most kpop fans are ungrateful
In kpop , new fans can be really crazy at first ,they are obsessed and just don't think how much their actions and words can hurt their idols, but as time goes by they learn to be supportive and considerate to their idols and those who don't turn into sasaengs
I agree with every single word you said. Seriously, fans have way too much power over artists
The K-pop phenomena is disgusting. The music group members may have varied musical skills and influences, but they're jammed into a narrow mold. And I believe that the management don't care about the music group members' feelings, because they see them as replaceable. Control, train, and shame. Rinse and repeat. All of the K-pop toxicity makes me want to seek out non-K-pop musicians from South Korea--while they can still be found.
They don't deserve to be calling fans,idol are still human right?if you becoming idol,are you not human,are you pupet,doll or very perfect that people can control,harsh and do what they want to??🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄
Spoiled? Not if you’re a VIP…. 😪
There's a diffrence, we, the good fans knòw the diffrence between reality & imagination, those fake toxic punk fans don't, & they dònt have a life like we do, & Idols r stìll humanbeings wìth mistakes, just like everyone else!!!🙄😡😡
There is no point on this video to not be agreed.
Oh heck no I had to pause the video and type this after seeing something being thrown at J-hope! I had to punch the wall for that oh heck no!!
I am a non-Asian K-pop fan and K-pop idols give off a feeling that you belonging to them but only for good nice musical reasons.
In conclusion toxic K-pop stans are no lifes who enjoy controlling their idol and go crazy over any little mistake.
tbh what they did to yunho is unforgivable since he almost lost his life..
also apologized for doing nothing wrong...like what happened with people....
Many ppl seems like have no life by ruin their idol's life
*When i entered kpop as a fans my friends stopped me & told me it's a addiction & toxicity !
i didn't care , i thought they don't like kpop , they hate kpop & they want me to hate it too that's why they say like that i thought , but only after 2 years of being kpop fans i realise that my friend were more that correct ! this is video just reminded me of my friend coz they said the same words & told that it will change me like them too ! but thank god i didn't go that far ! i just stop my self toill the limit { watch bp& bts mvs, funny videos of bts & bp when bored , beboss tv} but i mistakenly got into that KBUZZ channel ! i hate that channel but i'm not able to come out of it !*
I would say those fans are rlly toxic, and they're spoiled it's not easy to deal with these kind of peeps, I just wanna wish nobody has to ever deal with this but ofc there will still be toxic fans in the end of the day but we good fans love caring and appreciate out idols, pls take care everybody and have a good day/night!!
Yes i agree I've been a kpop fan for about 5 yrs now and some fans make things so extreme i find it kind of stupid
I have a hard time calling kpop idols artist because although there are some groups like bts that are part of the songwriting process and have a bit of control (not much compared to westen artist) they still have to behave like idols (like they are perfect).
As soon idols get out of the idol image, fans start hate them when they originally claim that they loved them.
I remember when Jennie dated Kai I wonder why the toxic Shippers started attacking them
Fans DO NOT AND NEVER WILL own an Idol
The thing I don’t like is wen they think they are dating the idol and the idol should not have a boyfriend or girlfriend
Yeah, I’ve never gotten the dating ban thing. They are people…?
Blinks are patient, it has been 14 months, I'm still waiting for an OT4 comeback
This is so true..
This was so accurate fans think idol is their doll that can be manipulate
Every fandom has kind fans and toxic fans...
I think it's not just the company that create overly loyal & overly scrutinous fans...which is doesn't exist in another place in this planet...but maybe that's also a traditional way of thinking of people of the country...seeking conformity perfection...
And the fact we can't do anything with them just make me so angry
I feel bad for idols and peaceful fans suffering because of OVERREACTING, TOXIC KPOP FANS. Bruh literally must boycott very innocent kpop idols? Literally hell, kpop must have change, should make things more chill. Whats wrong when kpop idols have relationship? Why must randomly ship different idols? Do you even own them? 🤦♂️😤😞 Why do some channels just make negative comments for no reason? @K-buzz? Those people should really need to watch this video. There is no reason to even dislike this video too. This channel said what I feel about kpop. Those people really need to learn.