Our federal government has proven themselves to be so incredibly evil in the past I am blown away by people who are so willing to trust them about anything.
People just ignorant towards it and weak so they group together like sheep and do and they’re told. Then call you weird for being the one that has the bravery to stand up. Cowards.
personally I’d like to think (maybe I’m a “sheep” lol) but I’d like to think that if there’s nothing to believe in than the world would burn down due to want for power. Even though shady stuff goes on, aslong as there is people out here like Tom, that they will uncover the truth and call them on their lies. As us as people I think rather than overthrow or get mad at the government, we just need to chip away at the bad people & just hope the justice process fixes itself. But that’s just me
@@nickhagan7800 Not bad thinking I personally love diving deep into these rabbit holes but also believe we shouldn't fixate upon them. I learned a long time ago that the descent of madness does not stray far behind. Dark shit like this happens but I know there's plenty on the everyman's side, so I totally agree with ya!
It’s interesting for sure. But I don’t suggest looking into the Manson murders too much. I’ve seen some photographs that I regret seeing now. Fucking brutal stuff that will stay with you forever.
The 60's and 70's The boomer generation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. It really did all start to go downhill after the 50's.
It's a really good book. I just finished it and damn, it's very cool to actually get to see someone go from normie to hardcore conspiracy head in 400 pages.
@@jaytrace1006 Whitney Webb is working today, she’s great! Same with James Corbett. Two great investigative journalists. They’re so good you can’t find them on TH-cam, that means they’re hitting a nerve 😂
You're totally right, i just finished the book and he refuses to engage in speculation as to what he think was going on, only talks about things he has direct evidence of.
And not just America. Our country is ran by a wannabe dictator, liar and tyrant. Who said no there is no such thing as free speech and freedom to protest (non violently) Canada is falling hard.
Yeah, tomfoolery. As thousands of kids disappear each year in the US without a trace. TOMFOOLERY IS FOR CARTOONS. This is pure evil. I wonder why milquetoast comments get upvoted the most.
In a book from 1972 called 'A witness to evil' Manson was stopped by the cops shortly after the murders and was asked where he was going and he responded 'don't you know who I am?' and 'don't you remember me?'
Im very appreciative of how distinctive this guy is between speculation and factually recorded truth. It's kind of hard to come to any other conclusion after hearing what's in all of the documents this guy found.
@@fuzzy8mike the term Conspiracy Theorists was a term created by the CIA for the Americans weren't believing the official story the Government was giving for JFK assassination...
@@JinxMarie1985 most conspiracy theories are true? I don't believe that lol. Before making a statement like that it'd really do you some good to define exactly what you mean by "conspiracy theory". Without definition or context it really discredits you
and how every single "terrorist plot" that was "stopped" by the feds was something of the Feds own creation. They control the entire thing, from finding someone exploitable/vulnerable enough to comply to a part, to supplying them with whatever material, or better yet...making access to said material even easier to obtain. Then they give them a target or a place to be (who ever really knows how much of the plot the supposed terrorists are actually in on). Then the FBI miraculously swoops in to solve the "crime" and therefore justify their existence/funding. But really there was absolutely zero threat to anyone.
With the more successful speculators, the foundation of facts is solid. So much so that less ingenious people don't even notice the huge leaps in logic that are built upon that foundation.
Joe. You’ll have to have Tom back on soon. Manson admitted in a recorded private conversation that he WAS part of a special “federal program” meant to keep him out of jail.
I like how this guy mentioned he didn’t get to all of documents regarding to Manson and tells you what he did get to. Thankfully he isn’t filling in the blanks like Other authors
Interesting. even in the movie the Manson character entered the courtroom and stated "I'm what you made me, I'm a reflection of you." At the time it sounded more like a rant towards society in general. but now maybe not..
The fact that the C.I.A. is even still in operation is absolutely ridiculous. They do what they want and answer to no one. Just the little bit of their nefarious activities that happened to see the light of day are very disturbing. Imagine all the things they have done that we the people don't know about
@@hectortorres4738 yeah ok. You think he's being briefed on everything and there aren't black projects going on that he doesn't know about? Don't be so naive
It’s unbelievable how the government/media can narrate a story and then decades later the truth dribbles out!! I have to watch this video again. Tom O’Neill did a great job investigating this story. Thank you for this video
It sounds like totally vague bullshit. So there is a public library of cia information going back to this trial in 1969😂. Where exactly is he getting this shit from.
This is a great interview, JR really allows Tom O'Neill to speak freely with few interruptions, the book Chaos is also a thought provoking read, but you might have to read it two or three times to see things falling into place.
I found the author to be all over the place and difficult to listen to. TG Joe is a good interviewer and was able to get to the point. I’m going to read the book because it’s a fascinating topic.
I just finished this book. I literally could not put it down. It’s an amazing book and gripping the entire way. I was addicted to it until I finished. Highly recommend if you’ve watched this podcast with him.
No one, trust when I say the CIA knew this whole-heartedly. The media made a monster of him, and he was. Once you have the hearts of the general public their mindset has been fixed and anything beyond the thoughts engraved by the media on Manson, would’ve been a “conspiracy theory”.
Charlie manson seemed to explain himself very well in his interviews without actually saying anything. I've always believed that he was used and that he was aware of what actually happened but would never say what he knew. He was a child that had no one to protect him, he was the perfect candidate
I think so also and I believe that everyone he loved and trusted either abused him sexually or physically or both, and his uncle was a crazy Vietnam Veteran, not that it excuses him for anything he was guilty of, but he didn’t have anyone to protect him and look out for him and love him and raise him in a house with security and normalcy, all he knew from what all the books and people are saying, was a life of unknowns and being pushed onto his grandparents or to someone else who probably sexually abused him or pimped him out to pedophiles or just wanted to physically abuse him and smack him around and if anyone grew up in the same environment I think that they would be hard pressed to make a normal adult life from the environment that he spent his formative years in surrounded by chaos and insanity from such an early age
I feel his parol officer was his handler. He wasn't the one calling the shots, but he was the one making sure Charles Manson did what he was suppose to do. Every time he got locked up he'd get him out, and then had "ideas" of where he should go next do next ect. You want answers, then I suggest you find that guy if he's still alive and get him to talk on a recording. I feel his parol officer is the key to unravel and find out fully what was really going on.
He did, guy wouldn't talk at all. He pleaded ignorance over the course of 6 hours even when presented with evidence that contradicts or implicates him in crime.
i guarantee you Eddie wouldn't believe this just because he would feel this view is too "mainstream". His own theory will be something completely different from this or the official story.
Soil science is a true category of company work. Would be a weird choice if he were digging dirt in any traditional sense. Filling holes on the other hand right up his alley it seems. Probably all over some factually ignorant shit however. Humans have a very long history of wrapping some of the most retarded things in overly complex layers trying to claim its intelligent when it turns out to be a half eaten moldy loaf of bread. Imagine sending secret code about the earth being literally flat or the center of everything. Humans literally did that for >7000 yrs. Rube goldberg machine of retardation.
I first heard about this from the Opie & Anthony show. When someone called into the show & said he had a friend in the armed forces tell him about Manson being in the CIA. Everyone thought he was crazy.
In 92 we had an officer at DLI intelligence school who used to say that we better not screw up our coursework or we would end up like other guys who failed out like Oswald or Manson.. we knew Oswald kearned Russian while in Marines but we didn't get the intel connection with Manson...now i get it.
He was 100% CIA, thats why he was so knowledgeable about foreign affairs and the inner workings of the government/ establishment. He spoke a lot of truth and was far ahead of his time. He was portrayed as crazy so people would dismiss all the truth he was telling.
If this interests you then you’d like Manson’s interview with Ron Reagan Junior. Manson let’s a lot of truth slip out in that interview. It’s the only interviewer to whom he showed respect. It’s obvious why.
It's hard to believe that the CIA protected Manson, from 1967 until the summer of '69. Which was a great time, by the way, to get your first real six string.
Jo Po yeah it’s pretty nuts to thinks about. Oh, yeah great time to pick up a decent guitar. Particularly if you could have gotten it at a five and dime.
I've been anxiously waiting for this interview since Joe had mentioned it to Brendan during his sit in. Love hearing crazy shit about Manson & how corrupt our govt is/was.
Is. Not was. Definitely is. Because you can't point to the time where they expelled all the corrupt agents and administrators. They're still running it.
I hope the takeaway for people to understand is when “they” are done with your usefulness they let you go to jail or worse. Great book, Tom O’Neill. 👍🏻
Lol. This guy is making money off the conspiracies that shoot other conspiracies, etc. I read "Helter Skelter" and can remember that this writer leaves out all of the people that died during trial like a "certain" defense attorney. I don't believe that Mary Brunner ever murder for Manson. Susan Atkins is by far is the craziest of them all. Ms. Brunner was never charged with murder and was a key witness (like Linda Kasabian and Barbara Hoyt) in the Hinman trial. I can't trust this guy. I will buy his book just to see if he does mention the unexplained death of Leslie Van Houten's attorney's death. I believe he said that the CIA (in another segment) used Manson. I am not sure on what he is trying to say.
You don't get it. "Project" means research and development, after Project MK Ultra shut down in 1967, operational programs started and cults were covers for mind control programs, that way Cadre could be "in house" with subjects (assets). Murders of someones family are used to send messages to comply an individual they need to use, Sharon Tates father was a Lt Col in Military Intelligence and a CIA agent. The political movements like the black liberation and anti war movements existed before the hippy movement, so you flood the streets with drugs develop a counter culture that could be associated with those movements and later discredited, so you initiate COINTELPRO, you hit Sharon Tate to make her dad comply with them on sonething else, and blame it on hippies trying to frame black folks in order to divide the political movements between races (which didnt work) to achieve a larger strategic objective. Its proven that the CIA flooded the streeta with Acid, that is part of why. The cults were intelligence fronts, even Anton Lavey worked for the police department. MK Ultra came from Project Bluebird which was done at Camp King in Germany with the assistance of the Gehlen Organization, aka former Freemde Heere Ost, the entire Nazi Eastern Intelligence network (not Paperclip nd the Nazi scientists) Think about it, Roger Smith was a parole officer who did studies on Meth at a clinic??? 🙄
@@GraceInnovations Is that sarcasm? 😄 that was consise as the rotundity of a battleship. Im a drunk eccentric ex Marine/Soldier (2nd FAST/4ID) psuedo intulectual who fell off his rocker a few years after 9-11 lol, I try to be of service.
@@whatabouttheearth Haha, it definitely was NOT sarcasm. It covered a lot of ground, and many things that I've studied since I was young because my parents made sure to keep us always questioning the way things are. I appreciate whenever I see others who have done their work on things that are being done in secret, and hidden from the public. We were never meant to be the way we are now and keeping our eyes open always for truth and reality is of the utmost importance. Also, thank you for your service!
Always remember that to be an asset, one does not need to know that they are one, or that they are being used, although certain forces may act to manipulate an asset to take certain beneficial actions. Asset does not always equal a knowing agent. The classic “useful idiot,” like a pundit pushing a narrative useful to a government’s cause, for example, is an asset. A journalist with a protected source in the government, fed hand picked “leaks,” may be an asset. A radical cult leader, like Manson, possibly nudged to take certain actions for a desired outcome that helps feed a certain narrative, could be an asset.
This is probably the best and most accurate comment I've seen in this section. I just read someone writing about how assets have to be consciously aware of their roles and carrying out missions/operations. It's cool to know that someone here understands the true nature and definition of an asset. Especially in the sense of intelligence community assets....
Exactly right. Just like people do not have to know they are actually participating in a ritual. In my opinion, the wash hands, stay inside, wear your masks, and it being repeated... is a ritual they had most of the world going along with. Since those in charge are a cult.
A former deputy who was at the Spahn Ranch raid told an interviewer a few years ago that the 'word' going around at his station house after Manson was released from jail (due allegedly to a mis-dated search warrant), was that 'people' in DC ordered that Manson be released.
Tom’s book is unbelievably great. I have been listening to it non stop for the last 5 days. Fascinating! His level of research was amazing. I can’t wait to get to the conclusion.
If you liked his book chaos. Look up " weird scenes inside the canyon" by David mcgowan... it's confirms a lot of this stuff and goes even deeper into the reasons behind it all. Fascinating stuff.
@@eliecermesa4826 I don't have the patience, because I know "convoluted nonsense" when I hear it. If you want to waste your time listing to this mess, go right ahead.
The last time Manson got out of jail he had a high priced lawyer a brand new van and credit cards. Back then credit cards were unheard of very hard to get and he couldn't afford the lawyer or van he had how did he obtain all that?check it out!
I am glad to see some truths coming out. My husband was from the Los Angeles area, knew police and had friends who had connections with some of the victims. He told me a lot of things about the drug angle but people get offended if these things are said.
Oh look into Laural canyon, and the hippe movement. The government was worried about the public response to Vietnam being violent, so they created their own opposition in the hippe movement that was non violent and easily controlled. If you listen to Charles Manson's songs and the beach boys they also sounds the exact same
@@padraig5335 Yes. True. I came of age in those times but was not a hippie or protester. Government and social forces tried hard to hang onto the Ozzie & Harriet/Leave it to Beaver ideals of the 50's and early 60's. Then a lot of stuff happened and that world rapidly disappeared. Government desperately tried to eradicate anything that opposed the post-WWII ideals.
@@annalisette5897 No I disagree because behind the scenes they where actively encouraging it problem-reaction-$olution =we lose they win!look into Dave Mcgowans books or interviews his info is great and all tied into naval intelligence behind the 60s counterculture,laurel canyon,Disney etc..
It just sounds to me like Manson was a police informant who ended up going too far, and the cover-up is to hide the fact they kept letting him out of jail.
I'm glad this is finally coming out on Joe Rogan's show. Many people have known for a long time now that there are a lot of strange coincidences behind those murders, and now there is a credible analysis of some of those connections. Not all though.
@@nb6175 dude why have a show at all if you're just going to read the books. Shorter, more direct, easier, dialogue, profit. I wouldn't read any of their books either, would make for a boring podcast. Also I believe this guy, just because he wasn't able to solidify undeniable truth of something that happened 50 years ago and has government bleach all over it doesn't mean that many listeners didn't enjoy or become aware of something they had no clue was fishy. He's an honest man and I almost prefer he doesn't tie it all together, people who try to are usually overreaching and projecting.
@@coronatheinebriator9891 Not many people know about the purpoted CIA connections. It's also been said that they were involved in big drug shipments, even in more recent decades. Why did Manson need armed dune buggies to move across the desert so bad? Because of a black uprising? Really?
Jay dyer has done extensive research on this. You wouldn't believe all the serial killers who have ties to the military. Look into the Phoenix Program.
Charlie manson was used to discredit the anti-war movement amoung the hippie class in san francisco. There use to be a lot videos on this topic prior to obama and trump scrubbing the internet.
@@nawf5ta469 it is not my real name just like the rapper. I am mountain biker and I cross forbidden political lines to poach trails in wilderness areas and on Indian land. I still like to track my miles on app called strava. My profile picture is db cooper, the most successful bank robber of all time.
What an absolutely fascinating author & story, largely left out of a vast majority of media/literature out there on Charles Manson. I’m definitely buying O’Neill’s book.
Manson claimed he was drugged in prison. He said something along the lines of them constantly drugging him to the point he couldn't even open his eyes. Perhaps he's lying about that, but if not, it could add to the possibility he was MK Ultra'd in prison.
Not uncommon for doctors to keep a psych patient, especially one to Manson’s degree, on heavy amounts of Haldol or Thorazine or a similar drug to keep them from from having psychotic episodes.
@@tannerslomko or from credibly reporting/relaying his experiences. I spent over 2 decades behind bars. You have no idea what's done to incarcerated people. In many instances, the prisoner itself is unawares or unconcerned. It's a separate reality.
He did the same with his followers. Charles manson was a bad guy but sometimes he spoke truth which is crazy. I dont think he was crazy till they made him crazy in jail. Then again when he was barely arrested the dude carved his own forhead so he was pretty crazy
@@notchoome5694 yep, I was in jail and they made sure this guy got a special tray of food, with the help of another prisoner. After he ate he turned into a zombie.
The Real Gordon Ramsay No, not common knowledge. And you’re NOT Gordon Ramsay. And if you were, I don’t watch your stupid shit. Either way, FUCK OFF!!!
You ever watch the old interviews w Geraldo Rivera and Manson? They tried to always make him look insane but it didn’t look like that remotely. One time a reporter / interviewer was asking Charles “ how did it feel to cut that man’s ear off. !? Did it feel good. It felt GOOOOD didn’t it Charles. Yeah. It did didn’t it!!?” Like the man was coked out of his mind. Charles looked at him and laughed and muttered “wow”. Like “ I’m the crazy one??” 🤣🤣🤣
You have Dylan and the Beatles saving the world, Woodstock, the entire generation coming together, unity and revolution brimming, a rise in the youth. So how do you stop that. Have a madman butcher people in the heart of LA and write Beatles lyrics with there blood. I’m not saying I’m on board with all of this, but god damn did that end the 60’s and all that flower power.
Ehh, not really. The Beatles are still huge. Political movements that started here went on to have massive success. Gay rights, abortion rights, civil rights, anti-Vietnam movement etc. If Manson was an asset then it just didn't work. Like other areas of COINTELPRO it just didn't work very well.
And didn't he live in the house of beach boy drummer Dennis Wilson? He showed him songs he had written and accused the beach boys of stealing one of them. I think they actually did rework one of his songs.
The whole counterculture movement seems completely astroturfed to me. I feel it was a CIA psyop to discredit anti war protesters by conflating them with smelly bums that don’t shower.
A bit of background: MKUltra was an umbrella program. This means it had a central idea but actually consisted of several different programs with different goals that were related to the overarching goal. Manipulating a mind can take many forms. it can be manipulated to kill, or it can manipulate you to buy, or sleep with someone, etc.
"You can think pink elephants til mama Africa comes home. It still doesn't make elephants pink. I'm really dumb. You wouldn't believe how stupid I am. I don't even know who Candace Bergen is! I'm a hillbilly..." Charlie Manson
i just watched an interview of charles manson, which took place sometime in the 1990s, where he told the interviewer that he had been in Mexico around 1967-68, mingling with high ranking people who treated him well, and that while down there he had injured himself trying to high dive off a cliff and while recovering had taught a parrot how to say mother f.... now tom oniell is talking about manson being in mexico.. interesting..
Isn't he Bernie but smart? Basically a state tool used to control the opposition, that thing of giving out lil truths but hide the bigger truth within it so as to not show the true technocratic empire they building
@@nqobilengema2165 I think Chomsky goes as far as he wants. He's convinced himself some of the JFK 911 and banking stuff along mainstream so as not to disappear. But he's been talking about puppet masters for decades. Just doesn't solve it for you, he hopes you can take it from there. He doesn't seem controlled at all. Just has limits like anybody else.
@@gvlacic21 lets agree to disagree cause to me and all the lectures i seen and his books,(by the way i like his books but i also liked Edward Bernays book and appreciate how he created PR but his part of the establishment ) and what i now assume is the good old prof is a tool, ia controlled, hence i compared him to Bernie, Bernie is a tool and controlled, whenever Noam is asked about other things like the cabal of people running the world he refuses to believe even after much evidence presented. Like my initial comment suggested(i maybe wrong) but his part of the establishment, if you noticed in real life, people that truly expose the deep state are shunned and never given airtime, fired from their jobs, controversies come up about them.
@@nqobilengema2165 we're almost agreeing to agree lol. It's close. I've heard a lot of his talks. And I agree that there is some element of limitting control there. I differ that I think he limits himself. I also disagree when you say he refuses to see proof of the cabal thing ... I started listening more closely in his talks as of late and he is acknowledging the existence, almost as if he always did, he just doesn't name names and point fingers because like you say (and he says) pushed to margins and eliminated from convo which he has always been. I don't think he refutes any of it just words it publicly so as to speak no more on the matter of it.
@utewbing or adds to his credibility for the masses, the minute you start saying aliens came back in time to blow up the towers to start ww3 and make way for the messiah people tend not to listen, if you want many people to acknowledge the point you try and make you have to be subtle
@@Mo74mmad Well, you can see Woodstock as the peak of the peace & love hippie movement, and the Manson murders as the dark counterpoint of it, since after that hippies were viewed with fear and suspicion by "straight" society.
@@lucasoheyze4597 69 is a ying yang. It was all global, ritual brainwashing. "So Nixon wants to pull one on the public and he puts my dune buggy on the moon" (paraphrasing Manson). There's crazy levels to this shit you really dont want to know
Manson was brought from Mexico to the US through Laredo. He was actually here and if you go through the prison records during the '60s, you'll see that he was actually in Laredo.
Imagine during his court hearing how much drugs would have been slipped into his jail food to make him look insane, How much mind control did they give him
If O neil is right about the malfeasance and underhanded tactics of the Prosecution during the Manson trials, it's not surprising. Prosecutors have substantial powers at their discretion and are not afraid to use it. The problem Bugliosi had with Manson was that A) He had not killed anyone let alone those in the Tate-Labianca murders B) He had not explicitly gave the word to his followers to conduct the Tate-Labianca They wanted to put Manson away. So if these things O Neil states is true, this would be of a piece with trying to convict Manson.
Manson was at the home of the Labianca Couple. He tied them up and told the others to kill them. Then Manson left. One of the girls testified to this. MANSON GAVE THE ORDER AND THEY KILLED THEM. Plus Charlie had killed people before this.
I absolutely love your podcasts I can actually see someone as they’re giving it. I stumbled upon you the other night and I believe you were talking about Vincent Bugliosi. I saw a program sometime back. Someone approached him about the Manson trial and asking him certain questions and he would not answer them. I really need to know what the name of your book is? I was 11 years old when this happened and I remember that weekend because my grandmother was in the hospital dying. So the weekend is very vivid to me even still today. It was all over the news and news programs. It had been the worst crime that I remember for that time period. This is really intriguing me. Name the book please! Thanks a lot for this podcast!
Our federal government has proven themselves to be so incredibly evil in the past I am blown away by people who are so willing to trust them about anything.
People just ignorant towards it and weak so they group together like sheep and do and they’re told. Then call you weird for being the one that has the bravery to stand up. Cowards.
@@salvatorejack6894 bitching and writing comments isn’t standing up to anything lol people like you are so stupid lol
Op you’re making a big generalization, it’s the equivalent of saying people are so incredibly evil so why trust anyone lol
personally I’d like to think (maybe I’m a “sheep” lol) but I’d like to think that if there’s nothing to believe in than the world would burn down due to want for power. Even though shady stuff goes on, aslong as there is people out here like Tom, that they will uncover the truth and call them on their lies. As us as people I think rather than overthrow or get mad at the government, we just need to chip away at the bad people & just hope the justice process fixes itself. But that’s just me
@@nickhagan7800 Not bad thinking I personally love diving deep into these rabbit holes but also believe we shouldn't fixate upon them. I learned a long time ago that the descent of madness does not stray far behind. Dark shit like this happens but I know there's plenty on the everyman's side, so I totally agree with ya!
I find 60s and 70s history so fascinating, cults, war, great music, lsd, protests, movements, the world changing ...so much to dive into
It’s interesting for sure. But I don’t suggest looking into the Manson murders too much. I’ve seen some photographs that I regret seeing now. Fucking brutal stuff that will stay with you forever.
OutTour yeah that time our eternal souls’ fates were sealed forever...fascinating.
The 60's and 70's The boomer generation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. It really did all start to go downhill after the 50's.
Ziinx what do you mean? Never in the history of humanity have we had so much freedom and technology
@@ferise1 but at what cost?
What's crazy is if Manson did talk about it, who would believe him.
Look into it
He did talk about it
Allen McDonald did he? Is there video of it?
I would lol , look at Ted kacyznski ; everything he said that was gonna happen is happening
@@raymondosceola2765 ted was right. We all know he was right. We are just to comfortable to do anything to change it.
"It's easier to fool you, than convince you, you're being fooled"
Touché!
Way to completely butcher the original quote, damn thats sad.
"Sometimes, total paranoia is just total awareness".
Charles Manson
OMG
Very true.
Just because I know I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t following me
@@magiccarpetrider4594 there is no paranoia ur subconscious knows more then what u think your conscious is
@@jewscontrolyou9730 that is so very true.
This Man is like real, old style journalist. Will defenetely buy his book.
Yeah. Remember when investigative journalists actually used to investigate, and seek truth? Not any more...
It's a great book, a one worth more than one read. My only beef with it was it was anti-climactic.
It's a really good book. I just finished it and damn, it's very cool to actually get to see someone go from normie to hardcore conspiracy head in 400 pages.
@@jaytrace1006 Whitney Webb is working today, she’s great! Same with James Corbett. Two great investigative journalists. They’re so good you can’t find them on TH-cam, that means they’re hitting a nerve 😂
and then DEFINITELY buy a spelling book!...sorry...too easy...
I respect him for not going with speculation. It makes him more credible and valid when hearing him give insight on the situation.
You're totally right, i just finished the book and he refuses to engage in speculation as to what he think was going on, only talks about things he has direct evidence of.
@@zeusuk100What's the name of his Book ? Thanks in advance.
@@gregcushing1716u probably found it by now, but Chaos
The sheer size of the secrecy and tomfoolery in our government is absolutely disgusting
lol tomfoolery, i couldn’t have put it better
Well said
Facts I’m going watch this entire pod
And not just America.
Our country is ran by a wannabe dictator, liar and tyrant. Who said no there is no such thing as free speech and freedom to protest (non violently)
Canada is falling hard.
Yeah, tomfoolery. As thousands of kids disappear each year in the US without a trace. TOMFOOLERY IS FOR CARTOONS. This is pure evil. I wonder why milquetoast comments get upvoted the most.
In a book from 1972 called 'A witness to evil' Manson was stopped by the cops shortly after the murders and was asked where he was going and he responded 'don't you know who I am?' and 'don't you remember me?'
I don't get the point
Im very appreciative of how distinctive this guy is between speculation and factually recorded truth. It's kind of hard to come to any other conclusion after hearing what's in all of the documents this guy found.
Indeed. Tom O’Neill does not want to become known as a conspiracy theorist.
If you look him up he's got a ton of information on what the government did also with the JFK.
@@fuzzy8mike he isn't. He has facts.
Also most conspiracy theories turn out to be true. Fact check.
@@fuzzy8mike the term Conspiracy Theorists was a term created by the CIA for the Americans weren't believing the official story the Government was giving for JFK assassination...
@@JinxMarie1985 most conspiracy theories are true? I don't believe that lol. Before making a statement like that it'd really do you some good to define exactly what you mean by "conspiracy theory". Without definition or context it really discredits you
We need more journalists like this dude.
This dude is how journalists used to be.
I believe he's like the only one left.
@@mary4011 well yeah because you don't expose the government
I don't expose the government? Or this msm does not expose the government? Just curious. What have you done to expose the government?
But we won't get them.
kinda like how every single shooter has been on lists // interviewed by feds well before they commit their crimes
and how every single "terrorist plot" that was "stopped" by the feds was something of the Feds own creation.
They control the entire thing, from finding someone exploitable/vulnerable enough to comply to a part, to supplying them with whatever material, or better yet...making access to said material even easier to obtain. Then they give them a target or a place to be (who ever really knows how much of the plot the supposed terrorists are actually in on). Then the FBI miraculously swoops in to solve the "crime" and therefore justify their existence/funding. But really there was absolutely zero threat to anyone.
And/or related to someone connected to a person in Intelligence/Scientific/Financial hotspots
110% FACT
Order out of chaos.
The USA is a giant psyop
"I don't like to speculate." Love credible chaps.
With the more successful speculators, the foundation of facts is solid. So much so that less ingenious people don't even notice the huge leaps in logic that are built upon that foundation.
Read this as the man said it
I can’t stand how this guy used it. He should have Either talked and explained what he’s talking about instead of just killing the energy constantly
@@alexauclair1 he literally wrote a book on the subject my guy go read that
I think it's more about liability than credibility.
This is when I loved watching Joe Rogan interview. This is one of the best.
These kind of questions are what set this podcast apart every one else
Don't worry about it Steve
Albert Einstein weirdo
@@chrishandsome4267 thanks!
Dumb ones?
Lt. Finglefuble Dingler who are you?
Joe. You’ll have to have Tom back on soon.
Manson admitted in a recorded private conversation that he WAS part of a special “federal program” meant to keep him out of jail.
where can I listen to this recording? cant find it
Where
Prepare to open five or more tabs on the Internet while watching this episode.
Lol
Playing Castlevania and listening to Grateful Dead bootlegs. That's 3, what are the other two?
I like how this guy mentioned he didn’t get to all of documents regarding to Manson and tells you what he did get to. Thankfully he isn’t filling in the blanks like
Other authors
Interesting. even in the movie the Manson character entered the courtroom and stated "I'm what you made me, I'm a reflection of you." At the time it sounded more like a rant towards society in general. but now maybe not..
Who is back again because of Candace 💯❤️
Here
Me!!!!! 🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️ I also bought the book 📕
Who tf is candace
@@ThatTempesTGuy candace owens is an independent journalist
I’m here to watch this first and then listen to her podcast on this!
The fact that the C.I.A. is even still in operation is absolutely ridiculous. They do what they want and answer to no one. Just the little bit of their nefarious activities that happened to see the light of day are very disturbing. Imagine all the things they have done that we the people don't know about
Gbone Philly they answer to the president wtf are talking about
@@hectortorres4738 yeah ok. You think he's being briefed on everything and there aren't black projects going on that he doesn't know about? Don't be so naive
JFK said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces" just months before he was killed
You could say the same about the FBI
@@ghostwalk2446 even more so.
“Pretend i’m a guy” .... lol
Maybe Joe is Transgender. As brought on by over use. Of DMT?? 🤔🤔😆😆
Blah Blahs lol joe is just energy at this point
@@JONNOG88 Don't you dare blame DMT like that bro..
Use your imagination dawg
Lol and seduce me he said
This dudes recalling dates and times and names is impressive
It’s unbelievable how the government/media can narrate a story and then decades later the truth dribbles out!! I have to watch this video again. Tom O’Neill did a great job investigating this story. Thank you for this video
It sounds like totally vague bullshit. So there is a public library of cia information going back to this trial in 1969😂. Where exactly is he getting this shit from.
@@frankiesparks2868this dumbass never heard of a bibliography
@@frankiesparks2868baffles me people like you exist who think that the government share everything
@@frankiesparks2868you do know the mk ultra files were ordered to be destroyed for quite obvious reasons
@THE1PERCENTLOUNGE it's called sarcasm numb nuts . I was being sarcastic. Read it slowly bud🤣👍
This is a great interview, JR really allows Tom O'Neill to speak freely with few interruptions, the book Chaos is also a thought provoking read, but you might have to read it two or three times to see things falling into place.
I read it twice, watched the original podcast...an embarrassing, 20 times!
I found the author to be all over the place and difficult to listen to. TG Joe is a good interviewer and was able to get to the point. I’m going to read the book because it’s a fascinating topic.
@@joaniem3817 .... the 'Manson murders ' are an all over the place subject !'
JRE*
I just finished this book. I literally could not put it down. It’s an amazing book and gripping the entire way. I was addicted to it until I finished. Highly recommend if you’ve watched this podcast with him.
Do you think he’s being silenced?
@@allswaggedout007 who is being silenced?
I’ll order it based on your review!
No one, trust when I say the CIA knew this whole-heartedly. The media made a monster of him, and he was. Once you have the hearts of the general public their mindset has been fixed and anything beyond the thoughts engraved by the media on Manson, would’ve been a “conspiracy theory”.
Can you tell me what book this is i must read it now
Charlie manson seemed to explain himself very well in his interviews without actually saying anything.
I've always believed that he was used and that he was aware of what actually happened but would never say what he knew.
He was a child that had no one to protect him, he was the perfect candidate
Yeah on lady. You sound insane
So did he
@@one.2622 Very weird response 😂
I think so also and I believe that everyone he loved and trusted either abused him sexually or physically or both, and his uncle was a crazy Vietnam Veteran, not that it excuses him for anything he was guilty of, but he didn’t have anyone to protect him and look out for him and love him and raise him in a house with security and normalcy, all he knew from what all the books and people are saying, was a life of unknowns and being pushed onto his grandparents or to someone else who probably sexually abused him or pimped him out to pedophiles or just wanted to physically abuse him and smack him around and if anyone grew up in the same environment I think that they would be hard pressed to make a normal adult life from the environment that he spent his formative years in surrounded by chaos and insanity from such an early age
She isn’t insane what is insane is that no one stopped Mansons mother from fucking him up completely
I feel his parol officer was his handler. He wasn't the one calling the shots, but he was the one making sure Charles Manson did what he was suppose to do. Every time he got locked up he'd get him out, and then had "ideas" of where he should go next do next ect. You want answers, then I suggest you find that guy if he's still alive and get him to talk on a recording. I feel his parol officer is the key to unravel and find out fully what was really going on.
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@@BungieStudios its been 3 months😂
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He did, guy wouldn't talk at all. He pleaded ignorance over the course of 6 hours even when presented with evidence that contradicts or implicates him in crime.
Eddie Bravo's head is spinning like Linda Blare hearing this.
😂😂😂
Oh shit, I pictured it! 🤣
Eddie's cool because he gives zero fucks. And speculating on this shit can be fun.
I was literally just thinking this as I read your comment.
i guarantee you Eddie wouldn't believe this just because he would feel this view is too "mainstream". His own theory will be something completely different from this or the official story.
"Who would hire Charles Manson to survey soil?" that sentence and the way he said it are awesome
PoliClips they hire a lot of random people for that shit. I’ve worked in a soil sample lab
@@omgitsjoetime this is the funniest shit ive come across all day thank you
Soil science is a true category of company work. Would be a weird choice if he were digging dirt in any traditional sense. Filling holes on the other hand right up his alley it seems. Probably all over some factually ignorant shit however. Humans have a very long history of wrapping some of the most retarded things in overly complex layers trying to claim its intelligent when it turns out to be a half eaten moldy loaf of bread. Imagine sending secret code about the earth being literally flat or the center of everything. Humans literally did that for >7000 yrs. Rube goldberg machine of retardation.
Picture Charlie with a white lab coat on holding up a beaker with dirt in it to the light with his other hand rubbing his chin. "Yeah man, it's dirt".
@@dinochickarelli6327 all his reports would be interspersed with cryptic lyrics and occult symbols...
And people think the government would never do anything like this
This book was one of my favorite reads. Tom is truly an honest writer!
I first heard about this from the Opie & Anthony show. When someone called into the show & said he had a friend in the armed forces tell him about Manson being in the CIA. Everyone thought he was crazy.
I remember that too.... Everyone just blew the caller off thinking he was nuts lol..... Sounds like the caller wasn't so crazy after all !
In 92 we had an officer at DLI intelligence school who used to say that we better not screw up our coursework or we would end up like other guys who failed out like Oswald or Manson.. we knew Oswald kearned Russian while in Marines but we didn't get the intel connection with Manson...now i get it.
@@blaqlabspodcast5816 Holy shit
He was 100% CIA, thats why he was so knowledgeable about foreign affairs and the inner workings of the government/ establishment. He spoke a lot of truth and was far ahead of his time. He was portrayed as crazy so people would dismiss all the truth he was telling.
Tom "we'll have to kinda break it all down"
Joe instantly "lets break it all down"
hahahahaha
God damn internet rabbit holes, here we go again! Thanks JRE
that's reality rabbit holes my friend
*lol*
If this interests you then you’d like Manson’s interview with Ron Reagan Junior. Manson let’s a lot of truth slip out in that interview. It’s the only interviewer to whom he showed respect. It’s obvious why.
Thanks Eddie bravo
MK Ultra strikes again. Sirhan's trigger finger kept moving even after the gun was taken from him. He didn't remember anything.
It's hard to believe that the CIA protected Manson, from 1967 until the summer of '69. Which was a great time, by the way, to get your first real six string.
Jo Po yeah it’s pretty nuts to thinks about. Oh, yeah great time to pick up a decent guitar. Particularly if you could have gotten it at a five and dime.
Always thought he said "your first real sex dream". Confused me for a long time
@@thejkyle Yeah I fully agree, if you played it til your fingers bled, after all, it was the summer of 69.
That last line made me chuckle. 🙂
@@MLTHLA awesome 😂
I've been anxiously waiting for this interview since Joe had mentioned it to Brendan during his sit in. Love hearing crazy shit about Manson & how corrupt our govt is/was.
Is. Not was. Definitely is. Because you can't point to the time where they expelled all the corrupt agents and administrators. They're still running it.
Joe is the only one calling him Charlie like he’s his best friend.
🤣🤣 who know's lol
Uncle Charlie dont surf man
Ya dig
Ah so that's "the buddy" of Joe....
I usually call him Chuck.
I hope the takeaway for people to understand is when “they” are done with your usefulness they let you go to jail or worse. Great book, Tom O’Neill. 👍🏻
Wait a minute! The Charles Manson story sounds like Kubrick: “a clock work orange”.
Lol. This guy is making money off the conspiracies that shoot other conspiracies, etc. I read "Helter Skelter" and can remember that this writer leaves out all of the people that died during trial like a "certain" defense attorney. I don't believe that Mary Brunner ever murder for Manson. Susan Atkins is by far is the craziest of them all. Ms. Brunner was never charged with murder and was a key witness (like Linda Kasabian and Barbara Hoyt) in the Hinman trial. I can't trust this guy. I will buy his book just to see if he does mention the unexplained death of Leslie Van Houten's attorney's death. I believe he said that the CIA (in another segment) used Manson. I am not sure on what he is trying to say.
So that's where Roger Smith and Dr Hartman came from in American Dad and family guy....
Woah
Fuckkk that’s dark and I like that show lol 😬
All joe heard was “seduce” and his mind went wild af ahaha
“Pretend I’m a guy” 😂😭😂😭
Le RoyalOmnivore
100% gay
I honestly realized that while watching it and laughed good to see like kinded 🤣
I've been saying this for decades... 😎
Just gut instinct... things are very rotten in our world...
I remember a guy calling up Opie and Anthony warning us about Operation: Charlie Manson. We all laughed at him...
Joe 'He'll always be Charlie to me' Rogan
LOL! Pop out my nose dude! Nice!👍👍👍👍
*#lolz*
It’s a “rich” vs “poor” issue not “black” “white” issue
Imagine your informant runs a cult on the side.
You don't get it. "Project" means research and development, after Project MK Ultra shut down in 1967, operational programs started and cults were covers for mind control programs, that way Cadre could be "in house" with subjects (assets). Murders of someones family are used to send messages to comply an individual they need to use, Sharon Tates father was a Lt Col in Military Intelligence and a CIA agent. The political movements like the black liberation and anti war movements existed before the hippy movement, so you flood the streets with drugs develop a counter culture that could be associated with those movements and later discredited, so you initiate COINTELPRO, you hit Sharon Tate to make her dad comply with them on sonething else, and blame it on hippies trying to frame black folks in order to divide the political movements between races (which didnt work) to achieve a larger strategic objective. Its proven that the CIA flooded the streeta with Acid, that is part of why. The cults were intelligence fronts, even Anton Lavey worked for the police department.
MK Ultra came from Project Bluebird which was done at Camp King in Germany with the assistance of the Gehlen Organization, aka former Freemde Heere Ost, the entire Nazi Eastern Intelligence network (not Paperclip nd the Nazi scientists)
Think about it, Roger Smith was a parole officer who did studies on Meth at a clinic??? 🙄
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@@whatabouttheearth This comment was so amazing! You explained it perfectly and in such consolidation, but kept it correct and informative.
@@GraceInnovations
Is that sarcasm? 😄 that was consise as the rotundity of a battleship. Im a drunk eccentric ex Marine/Soldier (2nd FAST/4ID) psuedo intulectual who fell off his rocker a few years after 9-11 lol, I try to be of service.
@@whatabouttheearth Haha, it definitely was NOT sarcasm. It covered a lot of ground, and many things that I've studied since I was young because my parents made sure to keep us always questioning the way things are. I appreciate whenever I see others who have done their work on things that are being done in secret, and hidden from the public. We were never meant to be the way we are now and keeping our eyes open always for truth and reality is of the utmost importance. Also, thank you for your service!
Danny Trejo said he was in county jail with manson before the murders and said manson was able to hypnotize people with ease.
🎯
Trejo was probably programmed while in there and may not be aware.
Always remember that to be an asset, one does not need to know that they are one, or that they are being used, although certain forces may act to manipulate an asset to take certain beneficial actions. Asset does not always equal a knowing agent. The classic “useful idiot,” like a pundit pushing a narrative useful to a government’s cause, for example, is an asset. A journalist with a protected source in the government, fed hand picked “leaks,” may be an asset. A radical cult leader, like Manson, possibly nudged to take certain actions for a desired outcome that helps feed a certain narrative, could be an asset.
This is probably the best and most accurate comment I've seen in this section. I just read someone writing about how assets have to be consciously aware of their roles and carrying out missions/operations. It's cool to know that someone here understands the true nature and definition of an asset. Especially in the sense of intelligence community assets....
Thank you 🙏🏾 Someone who gets it!
Yep that's true, good point
Just like they did with Oswald, as soon as he knew what he was being arrested for he said the famous "I'm just a patsy" quote.
Exactly right. Just like people do not have to know they are actually participating in a ritual. In my opinion, the wash hands, stay inside, wear your masks, and it being repeated... is a ritual they had most of the world going along with. Since those in charge are a cult.
What an incredible interview I can’t wait to buy the book to support this great journalist
A former deputy who was at the Spahn Ranch raid told an interviewer a few years ago that the 'word' going around at his station house after Manson was released from jail (due allegedly to a mis-dated search warrant), was that 'people' in DC ordered that Manson be released.
Tom’s book is unbelievably great. I have been listening to it non stop for the last 5 days. Fascinating! His level of research was amazing. I can’t wait to get to the conclusion.
Whats it called?
@@freebee8221chaos.
If you liked his book chaos. Look up " weird scenes inside the canyon" by David mcgowan... it's confirms a lot of this stuff and goes even deeper into the reasons behind it all. Fascinating stuff.
@@freebee8221Chaos
Joe 'pretend I'm a guy and seduce me' Rogan
lol ya i thought thats what was coming.
Spy from Team Fortress 2
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The Doctor interesting
this is better than what The Doctor shared.
soundcloud.com/taz969/muddaphuck
Lol
Let's go down the rabbit hole with Tom O'Neill and ole Joe.
@Mike Knight I actually agree. I can't get into this convoluted nonsense. Just put Eddie Bravo On.
princez413 Don’t call someone’s passion “convoluted nonsense” because you don’t have the patience to listen and actually ‘go down the rabbit hole’
@@eliecermesa4826 I don't have the patience, because I know "convoluted nonsense" when I hear it. If you want to waste your time listing to this mess, go right ahead.
princez413 wow you‘re so cool
@@South4153 I know.
The last time Manson got out of jail he had a high priced lawyer a brand new van and credit cards. Back then credit cards were unheard of very hard to get and he couldn't afford the lawyer or van he had how did he obtain all that?check it out!
CIA?
Okay Thank
Okay okay I’m okay 👍 okay I just
I I know I have a lot going to my job house and
I have
Government scientists……the most frightening two words ever put together
🤣🤣
always thought Manson was more than what they showed. hard to explain.
I am glad to see some truths coming out. My husband was from the Los Angeles area, knew police and had friends who had connections with some of the victims. He told me a lot of things about the drug angle but people get offended if these things are said.
Oh look into Laural canyon, and the hippe movement. The government was worried about the public response to Vietnam being violent, so they created their own opposition in the hippe movement that was non violent and easily controlled. If you listen to Charles Manson's songs and the beach boys they also sounds the exact same
@@padraig5335 Yes. True. I came of age in those times but was not a hippie or protester. Government and social forces tried hard to hang onto the Ozzie & Harriet/Leave it to Beaver ideals of the 50's and early 60's. Then a lot of stuff happened and that world rapidly disappeared. Government desperately tried to eradicate anything that opposed the post-WWII ideals.
@@annalisette5897 No I disagree because behind the scenes they where actively encouraging it problem-reaction-$olution =we lose they win!look into Dave Mcgowans books or interviews his info is great and all tied into naval intelligence behind the 60s counterculture,laurel canyon,Disney etc..
What did he tell you about the drug angle?
@@annalisette5897 Any of the baby boomers was trash. Papaw said they won WW2 and came home and the boomers ruined the country! FACTS
did they just go past the 'MK Ultra' subject as if they were talking about broccoli pizza?
#lolz
This guy is actually fascinating he puts it all together very well
“Charles Manson was actually the human form of DMT” Joe Rogan
Haha this cracked me up thank you.
How do you fuck up the simplest and most over used meme?
@@frizzy3249 What so I can’t make a comment like that unless it’s in the exact same format as a meme?
@@remo66101 but its not even the meme you are trying to mimic
@@frizzy3249 Ok, what are you trying to say lol?
It just sounds to me like Manson was a police informant who ended up going too far, and the cover-up is to hide the fact they kept letting him out of jail.
Nah informants all leak something before they die. They just infiltrated him
@@crose4761 You can't count on statistics when people are being dosed with psychedelics.
Far, far more believable than anything else said here
He was no snitch! He took the fall on behalf of his friends.
@@BeeHatGuylmao 😂 you think Epstein killed himself and a plane hit the Pentagon too don't you?
I'm glad this is finally coming out on Joe Rogan's show. Many people have known for a long time now that there are a lot of strange coincidences behind those murders, and now there is a credible analysis of some of those connections. Not all though.
@@nb6175 Maybe, but he's pretty convincing in person. I'm getting the book though.
@@nb6175 dude why have a show at all if you're just going to read the books. Shorter, more direct, easier, dialogue, profit. I wouldn't read any of their books either, would make for a boring podcast.
Also I believe this guy, just because he wasn't able to solidify undeniable truth of something that happened 50 years ago and has government bleach all over it doesn't mean that many listeners didn't enjoy or become aware of something they had no clue was fishy. He's an honest man and I almost prefer he doesn't tie it all together, people who try to are usually overreaching and projecting.
Why the fuck does he have to tie it together? He’s reporting information he found.
and how exactly is any of this more credible than what we already know about manson?
@@coronatheinebriator9891 Not many people know about the purpoted CIA connections. It's also been said that they were involved in big drug shipments, even in more recent decades. Why did Manson need armed dune buggies to move across the desert so bad? Because of a black uprising? Really?
"Crazy used to mean something, now everyone wants to be crazy"
Charles Manson
Speaking of MK Ultra, I wonder if the Zodiac Killer was a product of that.
O shit
Keep Ted Cruz out of this!
He was a product of a twisted childhood - the baby he abandoned in Baton Rouge grew up and wrote a book exposing it.
Jay dyer has done extensive research on this. You wouldn't believe all the serial killers who have ties to the military. Look into the Phoenix Program.
Zodiac was smarter than the average bear
Charlie manson was used to discredit the anti-war movement amoung the hippie class in san francisco. There use to be a lot videos on this topic prior to obama and trump scrubbing the internet.
Yes you know it brother this is not new to me and you
Just a mechanical man doing the best he can.
Did you know theres a rapper with your name? Lol
Did you know there's a Career named after you?
@@nawf5ta469 it is not my real name just like the rapper. I am mountain biker and I cross forbidden political lines to poach trails in wilderness areas and on Indian land. I still like to track my miles on app called strava. My profile picture is db cooper, the most successful bank robber of all time.
What an absolutely fascinating author & story, largely left out of a vast majority of media/literature out there on Charles Manson. I’m definitely buying O’Neill’s book.
Great interview! I am surprised more research has not been done on the Jonestown Massacre/Jim Jones. There is so much to learn from that event.
Manson claimed he was drugged in prison. He said something along the lines of them constantly drugging him to the point he couldn't even open his eyes. Perhaps he's lying about that, but if not, it could add to the possibility he was MK Ultra'd in prison.
Not uncommon for doctors to keep a psych patient, especially one to Manson’s degree, on heavy amounts of Haldol or Thorazine or a similar drug to keep them from from having psychotic episodes.
@@tannerslomko or from credibly reporting/relaying his experiences. I spent over 2 decades behind bars. You have no idea what's done to incarcerated people. In many instances, the prisoner itself is unawares or unconcerned. It's a separate reality.
Yeah I saw that interview
He did the same with his followers. Charles manson was a bad guy but sometimes he spoke truth which is crazy. I dont think he was crazy till they made him crazy in jail. Then again when he was barely arrested the dude carved his own forhead so he was pretty crazy
@@notchoome5694 yep, I was in jail and they made sure this guy got a special tray of food, with the help of another prisoner. After he ate he turned into a zombie.
Mason’s story sounds exactly like the main character in “A Clock Work Orange.”
Kubrick definitely knew some shit
I KNEW he was going to say MK ULTRA.
CB Nomad ya no kidding that’s common knowledge 🤷🏻♂️🤔
The Real Gordon Ramsay No, not common knowledge. And you’re NOT Gordon Ramsay. And if you were, I don’t watch your stupid shit. Either way, FUCK OFF!!!
CB Nomad What a weird thing to comment.
CB Nomad you’re mom thinks you’re special 😉
NotSnarl I reject your accusation. I win!
Thank you - Joe is very astute and asks right questions !!
Listening to all this is so fascinating and troubling at the same time. Excellent podcast!
You ever watch the old interviews w Geraldo Rivera and Manson? They tried to always make him look insane but it didn’t look like that remotely. One time a reporter / interviewer was asking Charles “ how did it feel to cut that man’s ear off. !? Did it feel good. It felt GOOOOD didn’t it Charles. Yeah. It did didn’t it!!?” Like the man was coked out of his mind. Charles looked at him and laughed and muttered “wow”. Like “ I’m the crazy one??” 🤣🤣🤣
This story is so much more fascinating than the movie Tarantino made... Holy crap.
Right !! To bad TH-cam took this podcast down...
@@allswaggedout007 Full episode still on spotify tho
@@allswaggedout007 TH-cam didn't take it down, Rogan did it himself to push people to Spotify.
@@allswaggedout007 damn you are dumb
@@manladan5929 lol is it on TH-cam ?
Why am I going down another Joe Rogan rabbit hole on a rainy Sunday morning when I’m supposed to be meditating?
Charles "oh ya ill drop acid for your Government project" Manson
He just never heard of dmt
Allen McDonald woooooaaaaah a joe rogan DMT joke 🤯
I mean if you're in prison already.... Why not lol
You have Dylan and the Beatles saving the world, Woodstock, the entire generation coming together, unity and revolution brimming, a rise in the youth. So how do you stop that. Have a madman butcher people in the heart of LA and write Beatles lyrics with there blood. I’m not saying I’m on board with all of this, but god damn did that end the 60’s and all that flower power.
Ehh, not really. The Beatles are still huge. Political movements that started here went on to have massive success. Gay rights, abortion rights, civil rights, anti-Vietnam movement etc. If Manson was an asset then it just didn't work. Like other areas of COINTELPRO it just didn't work very well.
And didn't he live in the house of beach boy drummer Dennis Wilson? He showed him songs he had written and accused the beach boys of stealing one of them. I think they actually did rework one of his songs.
They were liberal bitches
@@JenkinsOwen it's all controlled
The whole counterculture movement seems completely astroturfed to me. I feel it was a CIA psyop to discredit anti war protesters by conflating them with smelly bums that don’t shower.
Joe “pretend I’m a guy” Rogan
An absolute must read. Incredible book, Tom’s research was extraordinary
A bit of background: MKUltra was an umbrella program. This means it had a central idea but actually consisted of several different programs with different goals that were related to the overarching goal. Manipulating a mind can take many forms. it can be manipulated to kill, or it can manipulate you to buy, or sleep with someone, etc.
Like "monarch " the butterfly one seems to be used on young female entertainers
People who think this is unbelievable forget that Osama was on our payroll, and we created Al Qaida in Afghanistan.
Not You as American but psychopath people...
Violated parole a day after being released, good old charlie
Tom is the best story teller.
"You can think pink elephants til mama Africa comes home. It still doesn't make elephants pink. I'm really dumb. You wouldn't believe how stupid I am. I don't even know who Candace Bergen is! I'm a hillbilly..." Charlie Manson
At least he called Africa Mama 😂
Damn, he had more in common with Trump than I expected
Necro - dispensation of life and death
Necro - Dispensation Of Life & Death
@@JudgeMentall Love Necro.
One of the best JR interviews.
It's funny when Eddie Bravo brought this up with a recent podcast Joe kind of laughed it off good to see that he got the info he needed
Eddie Bravo doesn’t deliver it like this
Not true
To be fair Eddie believes almost anything without fact checking.
That’s because Eddie Bravo acts like a deaf Jack Russel
@@flemflogan4650 congrats you listen to Theo von
i just watched an interview of charles manson, which took place sometime in the 1990s, where he told the interviewer that he had been in Mexico around 1967-68, mingling with high ranking people who treated him well, and that while down there he had injured himself trying to high dive off a cliff and while recovering had taught a parrot how to say mother f.... now tom oniell is talking about manson being in mexico.. interesting..
@@captdaddy that looks like a horrible show
His voice made me think about how ridiculous it is that Noam Chomsky hasn't been to the Joe Rogan experience
Isn't he Bernie but smart? Basically a state tool used to control the opposition, that thing of giving out lil truths but hide the bigger truth within it so as to not show the true technocratic empire they building
@@nqobilengema2165 I think Chomsky goes as far as he wants. He's convinced himself some of the JFK 911 and banking stuff along mainstream so as not to disappear. But he's been talking about puppet masters for decades. Just doesn't solve it for you, he hopes you can take it from there. He doesn't seem controlled at all. Just has limits like anybody else.
@@gvlacic21 lets agree to disagree cause to me and all the lectures i seen and his books,(by the way i like his books but i also liked Edward Bernays book and appreciate how he created PR but his part of the establishment ) and what i now assume is the good old prof is a tool, ia controlled, hence i compared him to Bernie, Bernie is a tool and controlled, whenever Noam is asked about other things like the cabal of people running the world he refuses to believe even after much evidence presented.
Like my initial comment suggested(i maybe wrong) but his part of the establishment, if you noticed in real life, people that truly expose the deep state are shunned and never given airtime, fired from their jobs, controversies come up about them.
@@nqobilengema2165 we're almost agreeing to agree lol. It's close. I've heard a lot of his talks. And I agree that there is some element of limitting control there. I differ that I think he limits himself. I also disagree when you say he refuses to see proof of the cabal thing ... I started listening more closely in his talks as of late and he is acknowledging the existence, almost as if he always did, he just doesn't name names and point fingers because like you say (and he says) pushed to margins and eliminated from convo which he has always been. I don't think he refutes any of it just words it publicly so as to speak no more on the matter of it.
@utewbing or adds to his credibility for the masses, the minute you start saying aliens came back in time to blow up the towers to start ww3 and make way for the messiah people tend not to listen, if you want many people to acknowledge the point you try and make you have to be subtle
Is it just me.. or does this info put a sinister twist on the Bryan Adams classic 'Summer Of 69' ?
Woodstock happened the same weekend as the Manson murders, like some mad Ying/Yang thing going on
@@lucasoheyze4597 what do you mean some yin yang thing going on?
@@Mo74mmad Well, you can see Woodstock as the peak of the peace & love hippie movement, and the Manson murders as the dark counterpoint of it, since after that hippies were viewed with fear and suspicion by "straight" society.
@@lucasoheyze4597 69 is a ying yang. It was all global, ritual brainwashing. "So Nixon wants to pull one on the public and he puts my dune buggy on the moon" (paraphrasing Manson). There's crazy levels to this shit you really dont want to know
I think he picked '69 because of the sexual reference.
The war on consciousness.
I respect this man. He knows this subject well. I like how he chooses his words with precision too, very clever.
Also, this guy looks like an old Robin Williams.
Mixed with Robert Di Nero.
I feel like these videos always end right when it starts to get good
So Charles Manson was telling the truth, to a degree, with certain things.... I always figured he wasn't "guilty" for what they claimed
Manson was brought from Mexico to the US through Laredo. He was actually here and if you go through the prison records during the '60s, you'll see that he was actually in Laredo.
In his Geraldo interview Manson mentions doctors were drugging him up while in jail
Yep I remember those. I need to find that 🔗 link
@@KajunMs39 do you still want the link I have the full link just respond back and I’ll send it the link :)
@@ImGlitcherTV please? Thanks.
@@KajunMs39 did you find it!
Imagine during his court hearing how much drugs would have been slipped into his jail food to make him look insane, How much mind control did they give him
If O neil is right about the malfeasance and underhanded tactics of the Prosecution during the Manson trials, it's not surprising.
Prosecutors have substantial powers at their discretion and are not afraid to use it.
The problem Bugliosi had with Manson was that
A) He had not killed anyone let alone those in the Tate-Labianca murders
B) He had not explicitly gave the word to his followers to conduct the Tate-Labianca
They wanted to put Manson away.
So if these things O Neil states is true, this would be of a piece with trying to convict Manson.
Manson was at the home of the Labianca Couple. He tied them up and told the others to kill them. Then Manson left. One of the girls testified to this. MANSON GAVE THE ORDER AND THEY KILLED THEM. Plus Charlie had killed people before this.
I absolutely love your podcasts I can actually see someone as they’re giving it. I stumbled upon you the other night and I believe you were talking about Vincent Bugliosi. I saw a program sometime back. Someone approached him about the Manson trial and asking him certain questions and he would not answer them.
I really need to know what the name of your book is? I was 11 years old when this happened and I remember that weekend because my grandmother was in the hospital dying. So the weekend is very vivid to me even still today. It was all over the news and news programs. It had been the worst crime that I remember for that time period. This is really intriguing me. Name the book please! Thanks a lot for this podcast!
Chaos by Tom O'Neill
Yessir bingeing all day