@@alexanderreznikov2682 Just out of Rehab and thinking his unhappiness and painkiller addiction is due to the hospital this and the next few cases are all "headed" by Foreman
@@j-hackhammer6078funnily enough my result + an already hunch said that I had cancer and one day I woke up couldn’t walk was taken to the hospital then was transported via ambulance to a regional medical center and they did a biopsy and it came back for stage 3 squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck the scariest part is I had told my family that I think I might have cancer due to how much weight I had lost in a short amount of time, 35 rounds of radiation and 7 rounds of chemo later I successfully beat cancer but not without needing a G-tube and several teeth pulled pretty much majority of my teeth with a few on the bottom remaining that got destroyed by chemo and radiation which was a possibility to happen!
The actor having hallucinations in this episode is Rick D. Wasserman, who has done tons of voice overs for trailers and commercials, voice acting work for video games and animated shows, and acting work. He did great here!!
Normally game developers are portrayed as insufferable nerds in media like this, but I feel like he's fairly realistic. Headstrong and too smart for his own good, but not a bad guy.
@@Nogardtist nah reddit moderators are insufferable, they react to the smallest portion of discomfort and they push it to its envelope just to squeeze out every bit of power left remaining, hold it until they withdraw their last breath.
@@silablueray5690 you say that, but have you seen ancient torture methods? people have been monsters LONG before video games existed. In fact, humanity has only gotten nicer since video games were invented. Violent crime is going down.
Eh if you use Web MD responsibly and not jump at the first diagnosis you see and do further research into different possible illnesses it can be helpful even if it’s just to learn!
Writer 1: _"Okay, in this episode, the guy is hallucinating he's in a video game, so, anyone here has ever played a video game?"_ Writer 2: _"Not me, I have a life."_
@@dars5229 My favorite thanks to Dr. Mike's YT channel _"let's poke directly into the brain of this girl with CIPA, a condition that keeps you from feeling pain, to see if she eventually feels anything!"_
Possibly interesting factoid, this episode was in the fall of 2009, which means story development and pre-production would have been between winter 2008 and spring 2009. That would have placed the writers between a year and 18 months since the fantasy author Robert Jordan died of complications related to cardiac amyloidosis in September 2007. The internet crowd around a game like the one being developed would definitely include fans of Jordan, who probably would leap to suggesting amyloidosis in that online "bug bounty" thing. Wondering if the writers played around with that knowledge or was it just a story line coincidence.
You know, as a person who has been misdiagnosed in the past (with a bit of a chip on my shoulder about it, too), I wish all doctors were at least this understanding with skeptical patients. We're human, our brains are built to remember the worst things that have happened to us, and it's up to health *care* professionals to, you know, care about the reasons why we might behave in the way that we do.
Dr Mike (medical influencer, one of the good ones) promote patient advocacy. Doctors are trying their best, but they are humans, so as patients we should push back when we think is needed.
@@jessicav931 not all doctors are trying their best. As someone who has had the misfortune of dealing with many many doctors I can say quite confidently that most are in it for the paycheck. When you meet a doctor that genuinely cares it's very rare and refreshing
Patient skepticism should come into play when what the doctor tells you doesn’t align with what you’ve told them. Doctors need to listen better and take complaints seriously, but also more often than not a misdiagnosis comes from lack of data or poorly described symptoms. As this show is known for, a disease can appear to fit a list of symptoms until a new one crops up, and the disease no longer fits. Plus patients leave out important details, lie about things, etc.
@@souxcasablame the corporate hospitals and insurance companies for that. They crush the humanity out of the system completely, only allowing doctors to spend 5 minutes with patients, creating tons of useless paperwork to track things because they don’t want to, assigning non-medically trained office drones reading from a formulary sheet what treatment and tests can be given to a patient.
there was such a slow reaction from everyone on the floor when he was hallucinating😂😂😂 especially the time in-between him throwing his drink&snatching things out of peoples hands to the time they finally start attempting to intervene.🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Pretty sure they set up a game of chess between "the masses" and Kasparov, and he beat "the masses" easily, because taking an average of "the masses" leads to an average result, compared to exceptional moves made by 1 exceptional player
The point of the "wisdom of the crowd" is to use it in situations where you can be wrong in two directions on a scale - for example guessing how many jelly beans are in a big jar. Although you do get "an average result", it's not average in the sense of being mediocre, and actually is very accurate. But obviously in chess and in medicine where there is a best move or correct diagnosis the system doesn't work.
Kasparov didn't win because "the masses" are dumb (mostly because "the masses" were other high level players), but because he's Kasparov (the wisdom of the masses in that case is about dialogue between the people choosing (in what limited ways were allowed))
This is driving me nuts. All the doctors like 'stop diagnosing yourself! We are the professionals!' works great in TV land where they spend a whole episode investigating your problems. IRL they won't spend 2 minutes thinking about you and just bounce your around between offices half the time. I'm glad the online responses thing ended up being right at least.
IIRC the correct online response came from the doctor who led the team in this clip. They’re a diagnosis team so investigating symptoms is their job, which is why its what they do all episode - normal doctors see the patient first and they only wind up with this team if the normal doctors can’t figure it out (although I am not a medical professional and have no idea if thats something that would exist irl)
@@bluenasca I badly, badly wish a team of diagnosis doctors were available to the common person. Sure hasn't been my experience or the experience of anyone I know who's been there. I don't think I've encountered a single doctor who is willing to expend more than 10 minutes thought on a given patient, honestly.
"I'm glad the online responses thing ended up being right at least." says the guy confidently after over 99% of the online responses were wrong and only one of them was right. Sadly, it won't take long until that line of thinking is going to hit you straight back into reality.
@@WaterbuffelNL Doctors are people with a degree. not gods with some spare time. The fact is a good portion of doctors are complete morons or utterly lazy. How do you think we ended up with the fiasco which was the coof response...because there are a lot of doctors in charge who haven't got clue 1 how to handle a true emergency. we act like because those people went to "really hard school" that it somehow makes them less fallible than the average human. My girlfriend passed away because of a misdiagnosis. If that doctor had simply cared just a little bit, he may have realized her symptoms were not from sleep apnea.
Honestly, this is a real danger if you're extremely smart and NOT a doctor. On the one hand it can be enjoyable for them to speak to you on (close to) their level... IF you trust them to do THEIR jobs. On the other hand, the temptation is there to diagnose yourself based on googleable information, chatgpt etc.
not all doctors are equal or continue their studies as much as they should for new and updated information, I was always against self diagnosing until I was getting things right more than the doctors and having them be wrong more than once and multiple doctors made me feel really uneasy about any diagnosis and feel like I should always double check if that seems correct, obviously still take their guidance but can't just assume they don't make mistakes or do things wrong. I've even had a doctor prescribe medication I'm allergic to because they forgot or didn't realize even though it's on the medical sheet. lol
Yeah...100% in that. Being extremely smart vs being educated in a specific trade are NOT one in the same. I wouldn't trust the smartest person in the world to fly me home vs someone with an average IQ but has 20 years experience flying a plane.
@@PizzaSIut Yeah....this is why they have that one specific saying "Always get a second opinion" as one should. I wouldn't diagnose myself, ever. I have LGL(It sounds WAY worse than it is) and if I where to diagnose myself with the symptoms I was having, it wouldn't have in a million years come up with what I have if I would have done the research myself as there are many different things that match the symptoms.
every doctor I've ever been to just googles symptoms. I literally had a doctor google my issues with a drug he put me on point to Web MD and say "it's not a listed symptom on here so I don't know what to tell you", my symptom was insomnia from an SNRI which is incredibly common.
Emphasis on "looks". Gameplay trailers for actual games also tend to look more fun than the actual games themselves once you get to play them. The actual game experience tends to be far less cinematic and more clunky than a carefully crafted cinematic trailer. If it was to be turned into an actual playable game it would likely suffer the same fate unfortunately. It's very difficult to make a real game project cinematic yet interactive and responsive, there's always going to be a huge difference between uninteractive mediums and interactive ones. It would be far more realistic if shown "gameplay" had more artificial jittery movements (like you'd get in VR chat for example) and lacked the cinematic camera angles (and we'd get to see it from VR googles perspective instead and with worse lighting because this level of lighting quality is not quite doable in real time for videogames even today, yet. Another thing is the duration, sure -a 30 second clip of this looks cool, but if you had to actually stretch it into something like 2 or 5 hours of actual gameplay it would likely get old very quickly, especially due to how often actual games tend to re-use mechanics, characters and other entities to use up less memory, juice the content for more gameplay time and to simply optimize the amount of work needed to develop the game. The game does seem cool as a concept on paper and as an uninteractive pseudo-gameplay footage, but putting it through an actual test of turning it into a real playable game would quickly reveal why it's much easier to make a short animated concept that looks fun than an actual game that is equally fun to play.
@@MeddlTitan Sure, lol! TLDR: It's much easier to make something that's only intended to look nice than to make something that's playable, balanced, fun AND looks nice too. A game needs to consider many more things than merely looking nice, and with that -looks get sacrificed in favor of other aspects like gameplay, fun, readability etc
@@Bond01_ true but the episode came out when most games were just like that back when the devs could make a game that was fun to play and good looking in trailers and when you would actually play it if you remove the vr part which isn't realistic for the time the episode came out you have a game that looks and likely plays like halo but with monkeys
@@MeddlTitan Sure, but it's one thing to say a game is still fun despite being different from it's trailer, and another to say that it's trailer was as good as the game. Sure, some game trailers are just actual gameplay footage from the game instead of being cinematic in a way that misrepresents the game entirely, but the "game footage" that was present in the show would not translate very accurately into an actual game without severe differences due to technical limitations and requirements of actual games needed for a game to be playable
Shows how great the supporting characters are in the show, and really shows this works even without Hugh Laurie. Though that of course wouldn't present the memorable show it is now.
first of all, priapism is a serious condition. it's extremely painful and they had to put in a surgical shunt to relieve the pressure in this case. second, no you don't. you really don't. no girl wants to spend THREE HOURS in pound town. i'm chafing just thinking about it. just go down on her, get her off, give her a good 10 minutes and you'll be the best she's ever had.
@@dietotaku Its mostly joking about the patient in the episode, I dont mean I actually genually wanna go through that but thanks for sharing some insight.
a lot of parents would use video game as escape goat for failed parenting cause its easier to blame something other but themselves pretty much on all cases but video game is kinda like a book where your actions has direct impact of whats happening or could happen in a way it teaches you to react to a motion or environment eventually puzzle and problem solving depending on the game and its difficulty the first thing a child or at any age that games are designed for entertainment purposes and usually never educational
"listen we are really not ok with you guessing as to what is wrong...let us guess what is wrong and perform dangerous life threatening procedures without confirmation."
Doctors aren’t guessing, they’re hypothesizing. And they have years of medical training, knowledge, and experience. If you think patients should just be able to dictate their own treatment procedures, when they lack knowledge of biology or medicine
Imagine having VR games in 2009 6:02 Love how a doctor at supposedly one of the best hospitals in the country is just like "geez, look at this obviously distressed patient who seems to be reacting to non-present stimuli. Why do we got a guy like that here, kids these days" and just walks away
This didn't actually, it's not quite there but not too far off either for a mid budget seasonal TV show nearly a decade away from commercially viable vr.
@@erueka6 Out of curiosity, were you aware of the VR headsets of the 90s? They failed because they were just too expensive for people at the time (I tried them at games shops, but never got even close to being to afford one).
@@ScapestoatI had a toy imitation once it was weird and seen the Nintendo flop there's been more than that but like I said commercially viable and player usable vr I wouldn't count anything before the rift as vr not even sure what those decades ago would classify as now definitely an attempt but not vr
@@erueka6 From what I remember of it (I played MechWarrior 2 on it), it was not unlike strapping an Atari Lynx screen to your eyes. It had stereo-speakers and head-tracking. This was before Nintendo's attempt of VR, but I can't remember how much time are between the two. At the time, I was very impressed by it, and the experience was comparable to that of a HTC Vive. Memory is subjective, of course. But I think it "Vive but with early 90s tech that nobody can afford" sounds like a fair enough description.
I love it when people are honest. oh wait, your own experience could be lying to you and you wouldn't know it. you could also be lying. but sure, the person in question is the smartest.
Really? Jesus Christ. When I got diagnosed with LGL, my doctor specifically told me to NOT research it when I get home but give it a while due to the fact that it would only make me worry over something that isn't as bad as it sounds, which he was right in the end. I am more likely to die of old age then from LGL.
@@JaymeSplendid Doi9ng your own research can help you understand what you are looking at. While it can cause stress, it can also help alleviate some stress if the patient knows what they could, or will, be facing. And informed patient, is a prepared patient.
@@JaymeSplendid That is frightening advice that would have made me get a second opinion. Did you know Lou Gehrig may not have had ALS, also known as "Lou Gehrig's Disease"?
I usually do a lot of research when I have a mental or health issue before coming to a professional because I feel like it gives me a better idea of how to deal with it in the meantime. But the guy in the episode just made me unreasonably angry because he is unwilling to change his self diagnosis when faced by a professional. He thinks he's way smarter than he is and it bugs me; or at least thinks the redditors from his thread are way smarter than they are.
Doctors acting annoyed because the patient has looked remotely into their own problem makes my blood boil. In particular since non-TV doctors can be next to useless for diagnosis sometimes.
But this isn't your local run of the mill clinic either. This is House's team of specialists. 99% of their patients wouldn't be there if you could just google the answer
@@RedStar_N7 And they're wrong every single episode. This show isn't as pro-expertise as it seems. It's filled with narcissists being reminded their egos have nothing to do with falsifiability and objectivity.
@@danloweand every single time they are right at the end, that's their job, if they were right from the beginning then they wouldn't get these cases. In the world of house MD, these cases come from around the country and around the world, canonically. Because house's team is the best diagnostic team there is, all these cases have had 10s of doctors who have failed to diagnose the condition. Ever heard of the scientific method, trial and error, while medicine is the worst place to make mistakes in, there are millions of conditions that have similar symptoms. They have to take proper guesses, and bounce off ideas from each other, run tests, and in these cases, due to the lack of time they have to do life threatening procedures/treatments, before they test if they were right or wrong. Blood culture tests takes days, and most of the time the patients has hours, so all they can do is treat and hope they are correct, and if they aren't they can rule it out, or possibly get a new symptom to find the true condition.
The annoying part is only when the patient thinks his opinion is above the doctors diagnosis. I've come to psychiatrists and doctors with ideas of what I might have based on research I've done and none has ever seemed annoyed by it, probably because I don't narcissistically put my opinion above the one coming from the people who have the tools to more accurately diagnose me.
I don't watch mr house show but for the first 10 seconds I was really excited to try it out! I didn't know it was about monkey space wars!! But its just a doctor show like I thought ... no monkey space wars!!! I so I don't know about anything that happens past 20 seconds ... doctor shows are for other people, I'm about monkeys in space!!
This show has so many misdiagnoses but then we always have cases similar to real people where it was considered one thing and finally confirmed to be the other. I would definitely not consider these kinds of medical forums and posts to be used for self-diagnosing but they ARE a good reference for Doctors to review even more medical cases, as long as they use it to check before doing any irreversible treatments.
I remember doing a lot of research for an issue my husband had. Went to the Dr with him and explained the situation and what does doc do? Googles it on the internet! This was after poo-pooing my research. 🙄
@@Izabela-ek5nh i thought that was just a running (though not unrealistic sounding) joke around here. Could there be some additional scene in this episode proving it true?
I do not get it if the guy was suffering from fabry disease what was up with the hallucinations best think I know about it is that it shuts down both the kidney, heart, and causes a stroke.
i've gamed. I was in early dev of virtual decades ago (and we at that time, stook in the gear in a circular stand like they show in this show). The issue I have is, we did that 3 decades ago. I cannot imagine why on earth the developers would be setup the precisely same way as 3 decades ago. And, you know, the issue I have is, the level of details haven't improved that much for the way tech has improved the potential, for VR, really. I don't "game" like gamers do. Never have, really. But, def have gamed at a level. I find the total immersion like someone looking for a full time escape. I have, however, worked with people who every moment they have, they're gaming, including breaks, lunches, and so on. So, there are people immersed like that. You do that enough, the lines can get fuzzy I'm sure. But, to do that, my guess is you're starting out with issues in reality (ADHD, ASD, and so on) to begin with. But, this episode, nope. I feel like they stepped back 3 decades.
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I suspect House is the one who posted the disease in forum… it such an house thing to do… loll
If I remember correctly Yes it was he solved the case and got his mojo for medicine back
@@dmitrivalyria1315 Lol…Thank you…
Where was House?
@@alexanderreznikov2682detoxing
@@alexanderreznikov2682 Just out of Rehab and thinking his unhappiness and painkiller addiction is due to the hospital this and the next few cases are all "headed" by Foreman
the CGI Department fuckin cooked on this episode for a 2006 episode lol
Exactly what I was thinking 👀
wtf?
Some great art director then
@@youdontknowme3935 You can thank Elan Soltes, the VFX Supervisor for S6E2 (as well as his team obviously)
It looked kinda goofy imo
@@nor-wood well yea compared to now its pretty low quality but for that era of TV CGI its pretty solid
House MD was ahead of its time in recognizing the scourge of tech bro science
realest comment here
Unfortunately it also kind of sided with tech bro science by making the online spectators correct but yeah I was really hoping it was going there
Unless I got confused about the ending lol
It was House that posted online
@@SteveReals he would do that though and i genuinely wouldnt be surprised!
When you play too much vr and never remove the headset.
You’re supposed to remove the headset?
@@andrewleah1983 Who knows? Maybe you already wearing a set and forgotten about it.
@@Umbra-r4k How do I know I’m really me? I’m alive I know that as “I think therefore I am” but what if I’m actually Captain Price?
@@andrewleah1983What if this was all just a dream leading to you waking up on a cart?
“Hey, you… you’re finally awake.”
SAO casual player:
Stuck In Reddit Mode | House M.D
except on reddit everyone there or atleast almost in rare cases lie about them having experience or degree in anything
When you google your symptoms.
doctissimo replies "conglaturations you have cancer"
@@j-hackhammer6078funnily enough my result + an already hunch said that I had cancer and one day I woke up couldn’t walk was taken to the hospital then was transported via ambulance to a regional medical center and they did a biopsy and it came back for stage 3 squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck the scariest part is I had told my family that I think I might have cancer due to how much weight I had lost in a short amount of time, 35 rounds of radiation and 7 rounds of chemo later I successfully beat cancer but not without needing a G-tube and several teeth pulled pretty much majority of my teeth with a few on the bottom remaining that got destroyed by chemo and radiation which was a possibility to happen!
I googled about a small lump in my neck once, first google answer “thyroid cancer”. Luckily it wasn’t but googling is always an awful idea
The internet has incredible processing power, but poor certainty.
@@Limrasson The video ends with 13 admitting a response on internet led her to the right conclusion
It was House, cheeky little bugger.
The actor having hallucinations in this episode is Rick D. Wasserman, who has done tons of voice overs for trailers and commercials, voice acting work for video games and animated shows, and acting work. He did great here!!
I thought I recognized something about him
Any relation to Ron A. Wasserman, the Mighty RAW?
@@Daikon_Micuccithe power rangers guy?
As soon I heard him speak I knew he had to be a VA.
2:06 when he said can't breath I sounds like a game commercial
Normally game developers are portrayed as insufferable nerds in media like this, but I feel like he's fairly realistic. Headstrong and too smart for his own good, but not a bad guy.
i think media misspelled reddit moderator
@@Nogardtist nah reddit moderators are insufferable, they react to the smallest portion of discomfort and they push it to its envelope just to squeeze out every bit of power left remaining, hold it until they withdraw their last breath.
thats what you get out of that? games like this are definitely dangerous, they mess with the brain.
@@silablueray5690 you say that, but have you seen ancient torture methods? people have been monsters LONG before video games existed. In fact, humanity has only gotten nicer since video games were invented. Violent crime is going down.
@@stickyrick1939 missed my point but sure got a lot to say.
Me: i sneezed last night
WebMD: you're dead
Oh ok
*falls over*
"you actually died that time you fell off of your bike when you were 6 and this is all a fever dream in your dying mind"
oh cool thanks WebMD
Eh if you use Web MD responsibly and not jump at the first diagnosis you see and do further research into different possible illnesses it can be helpful even if it’s just to learn!
Writer 1: _"Okay, in this episode, the guy is hallucinating he's in a video game, so, anyone here has ever played a video game?"_
Writer 2: _"Not me, I have a life."_
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If you think they showed video game development inaccurately, you should see how they handle medicine.
@@dars5229 My favorite thanks to Dr. Mike's YT channel _"let's poke directly into the brain of this girl with CIPA, a condition that keeps you from feeling pain, to see if she eventually feels anything!"_
@@dars5229it’s a tv show man, you can’t take medical advice from it and you can’t expect it to be right all the time
"If you have Ever played A video game, you have no life." Cool story bro. 30 IQ comment.
Possibly interesting factoid, this episode was in the fall of 2009, which means story development and pre-production would have been between winter 2008 and spring 2009. That would have placed the writers between a year and 18 months since the fantasy author Robert Jordan died of complications related to cardiac amyloidosis in September 2007.
The internet crowd around a game like the one being developed would definitely include fans of Jordan, who probably would leap to suggesting amyloidosis in that online "bug bounty" thing. Wondering if the writers played around with that knowledge or was it just a story line coincidence.
You need to go outside mate .
Bro heard "My life is like a video game" and was like, "yes, this is my personality now".
"Trying hard to beat the stage, all while I am still collecting coins"
why do I find you everywhere I go
"My life is a gender."
You know, as a person who has been misdiagnosed in the past (with a bit of a chip on my shoulder about it, too), I wish all doctors were at least this understanding with skeptical patients. We're human, our brains are built to remember the worst things that have happened to us, and it's up to health *care* professionals to, you know, care about the reasons why we might behave in the way that we do.
Also sometimes a layperson can be right and the expert can be wrong. We shouldn't assume either way merely based on qualifications alone.
Dr Mike (medical influencer, one of the good ones) promote patient advocacy. Doctors are trying their best, but they are humans, so as patients we should push back when we think is needed.
@@jessicav931 not all doctors are trying their best. As someone who has had the misfortune of dealing with many many doctors I can say quite confidently that most are in it for the paycheck. When you meet a doctor that genuinely cares it's very rare and refreshing
Patient skepticism should come into play when what the doctor tells you doesn’t align with what you’ve told them. Doctors need to listen better and take complaints seriously, but also more often than not a misdiagnosis comes from lack of data or poorly described symptoms. As this show is known for, a disease can appear to fit a list of symptoms until a new one crops up, and the disease no longer fits. Plus patients leave out important details, lie about things, etc.
@@souxcasablame the corporate hospitals and insurance companies for that. They crush the humanity out of the system completely, only allowing doctors to spend 5 minutes with patients, creating tons of useless paperwork to track things because they don’t want to, assigning non-medically trained office drones reading from a formulary sheet what treatment and tests can be given to a patient.
couldn't get over how surprisingly deep his voice is, makes sense he apparently does a lot of voice acting
The person who posted the answer was probably house lol
Yeah it was him.
it was.
Ngl, that game looks awesome. Enemy and weapon variety, responsive environments, immersive gameplay... I'd play it.
responsive environment is rare these days or atleast they used to be until big corporations decided to cut too many corners
same!
@@Nogardtist>corporations are bad because... because they just are, ok?
@@gl4dius4pple75 name a good corporation
good luck
@@gl4dius4pple75 >>corporations bad because xey (among many) have caused some of the worst crimes against humanity (checked by snopes)
GOD I wish I had that man’s voice
Just the comment I was looking for what a voice haha
why?
@@doctorposting Looks like a nerd but sounds like Vin Diesel
You should hear me in the morning. I start quoting Darth Sidious lol
its not as interesting as it would sound then you speak into a microphone and listen to your own voice
there was such a slow reaction from everyone on the floor when he was hallucinating😂😂😂 especially the time in-between him throwing his drink&snatching things out of peoples hands to the time they finally start attempting to intervene.🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Gotta have time to show all those cool special effects 😂
Every long running tv show, has to have a video game episode that is so out of touch with reality, you would think that is obrigatory
You look like a gamer.
That funny breaking bad scene lol
It is obligatory
@@REDEEMERWOLF You smell like one
Physiognomy check.
A Joystick is certainly the correct term for it.
Gotta handle it to the people that made house, that game looks more original and creative than a lot of stuff I've seen in the past 10 years
True that
Pretty sure they set up a game of chess between "the masses" and Kasparov, and he beat "the masses" easily, because taking an average of "the masses" leads to an average result, compared to exceptional moves made by 1 exceptional player
The point of the "wisdom of the crowd" is to use it in situations where you can be wrong in two directions on a scale - for example guessing how many jelly beans are in a big jar.
Although you do get "an average result", it's not average in the sense of being mediocre, and actually is very accurate.
But obviously in chess and in medicine where there is a best move or correct diagnosis the system doesn't work.
Kasparov didn't win because "the masses" are dumb (mostly because "the masses" were other high level players), but because he's Kasparov (the wisdom of the masses in that case is about dialogue between the people choosing (in what limited ways were allowed))
@@carltonascarf7694 maybe, but I'd say diagnosing is closer to Kasparov than wisdom of the crowd
@@TaylerJDust Which is what he said near the end.
The shortcomings of the wisdom of the masses is why republicanism was invented. The masses err all too easily
This is driving me nuts. All the doctors like 'stop diagnosing yourself! We are the professionals!' works great in TV land where they spend a whole episode investigating your problems.
IRL they won't spend 2 minutes thinking about you and just bounce your around between offices half the time. I'm glad the online responses thing ended up being right at least.
IIRC the correct online response came from the doctor who led the team in this clip. They’re a diagnosis team so investigating symptoms is their job, which is why its what they do all episode - normal doctors see the patient first and they only wind up with this team if the normal doctors can’t figure it out (although I am not a medical professional and have no idea if thats something that would exist irl)
@@bluenasca I badly, badly wish a team of diagnosis doctors were available to the common person. Sure hasn't been my experience or the experience of anyone I know who's been there. I don't think I've encountered a single doctor who is willing to expend more than 10 minutes thought on a given patient, honestly.
"I'm glad the online responses thing ended up being right at least." says the guy confidently after over 99% of the online responses were wrong and only one of them was right. Sadly, it won't take long until that line of thinking is going to hit you straight back into reality.
@@WaterbuffelNL lil bro is a yappinator
@@WaterbuffelNL Doctors are people with a degree. not gods with some spare time. The fact is a good portion of doctors are complete morons or utterly lazy. How do you think we ended up with the fiasco which was the coof response...because there are a lot of doctors in charge who haven't got clue 1 how to handle a true emergency.
we act like because those people went to "really hard school" that it somehow makes them less fallible than the average human. My girlfriend passed away because of a misdiagnosis. If that doctor had simply cared just a little bit, he may have realized her symptoms were not from sleep apnea.
I like how the headset visor is clearly just a thin piece of plastic with no screen or lenses.
the screw sticking out too
Honestly, this is a real danger if you're extremely smart and NOT a doctor.
On the one hand it can be enjoyable for them to speak to you on (close to) their level... IF you trust them to do THEIR jobs.
On the other hand, the temptation is there to diagnose yourself based on googleable information, chatgpt etc.
not all doctors are equal or continue their studies as much as they should for new and updated information, I was always against self diagnosing until I was getting things right more than the doctors and having them be wrong more than once and multiple doctors made me feel really uneasy about any diagnosis and feel like I should always double check if that seems correct, obviously still take their guidance but can't just assume they don't make mistakes or do things wrong. I've even had a doctor prescribe medication I'm allergic to because they forgot or didn't realize even though it's on the medical sheet. lol
Yeah...100% in that.
Being extremely smart vs being educated in a specific trade are NOT one in the same.
I wouldn't trust the smartest person in the world to fly me home vs someone with an average IQ but has 20 years experience flying a plane.
@@PizzaSIut Yeah....this is why they have that one specific saying "Always get a second opinion" as one should.
I wouldn't diagnose myself, ever. I have LGL(It sounds WAY worse than it is) and if I where to diagnose myself with the symptoms I was having, it wouldn't have in a million years come up with what I have if I would have done the research myself as there are many different things that match the symptoms.
@@JaymeSplendid That's fair, I wish you the best with your illness and hope you recover!
every doctor I've ever been to just googles symptoms. I literally had a doctor google my issues with a drug he put me on point to Web MD and say "it's not a listed symptom on here so I don't know what to tell you", my symptom was insomnia from an SNRI which is incredibly common.
5:55 someone freaking out in the hall. Just a Tuesday for the doctors
When you work in a hospital, an armee threat is a monthly thing, just a threat is a weekly thing
when a fictional game looks more fun than 90% of modern games
Emphasis on "looks". Gameplay trailers for actual games also tend to look more fun than the actual games themselves once you get to play them. The actual game experience tends to be far less cinematic and more clunky than a carefully crafted cinematic trailer. If it was to be turned into an actual playable game it would likely suffer the same fate unfortunately. It's very difficult to make a real game project cinematic yet interactive and responsive, there's always going to be a huge difference between uninteractive mediums and interactive ones.
It would be far more realistic if shown "gameplay" had more artificial jittery movements (like you'd get in VR chat for example) and lacked the cinematic camera angles (and we'd get to see it from VR googles perspective instead and with worse lighting because this level of lighting quality is not quite doable in real time for videogames even today, yet.
Another thing is the duration, sure -a 30 second clip of this looks cool, but if you had to actually stretch it into something like 2 or 5 hours of actual gameplay it would likely get old very quickly, especially due to how often actual games tend to re-use mechanics, characters and other entities to use up less memory, juice the content for more gameplay time and to simply optimize the amount of work needed to develop the game.
The game does seem cool as a concept on paper and as an uninteractive pseudo-gameplay footage, but putting it through an actual test of turning it into a real playable game would quickly reveal why it's much easier to make a short animated concept that looks fun than an actual game that is equally fun to play.
@@Bond01_ can you give me a tldr version? 😂
@@MeddlTitan Sure, lol!
TLDR: It's much easier to make something that's only intended to look nice than to make something that's playable, balanced, fun AND looks nice too. A game needs to consider many more things than merely looking nice, and with that -looks get sacrificed in favor of other aspects like gameplay, fun, readability etc
@@Bond01_ true but the episode came out when most games were just like that back when the devs could make a game that was fun to play and good looking in trailers and when you would actually play it if you remove the vr part which isn't realistic for the time the episode came out you have a game that looks and likely plays like halo but with monkeys
@@MeddlTitan Sure, but it's one thing to say a game is still fun despite being different from it's trailer, and another to say that it's trailer was as good as the game. Sure, some game trailers are just actual gameplay footage from the game instead of being cinematic in a way that misrepresents the game entirely, but the "game footage" that was present in the show would not translate very accurately into an actual game without severe differences due to technical limitations and requirements of actual games needed for a game to be playable
Shows how great the supporting characters are in the show, and really shows this works even without Hugh Laurie. Though that of course wouldn't present the memorable show it is now.
And this is why I refuse to self diagnose. Not my area of expertise.
ive been looking for this exact episode
its called Epic Fail Season 6, Ep. 3
5:28 If you think about it, his particular hallucinations are pretty much an augmented reality experience.
Love the one guy who is just a totally normal doctor still after the hallucinations start
3 HOURS!!! Ima need that
he jus like me fr
first of all, priapism is a serious condition. it's extremely painful and they had to put in a surgical shunt to relieve the pressure in this case. second, no you don't. you really don't. no girl wants to spend THREE HOURS in pound town. i'm chafing just thinking about it. just go down on her, get her off, give her a good 10 minutes and you'll be the best she's ever had.
@@dietotaku Its mostly joking about the patient in the episode, I dont mean I actually genually wanna go through that but thanks for sharing some insight.
a lot of parents would use video game as escape goat for failed parenting cause its easier to blame something other but themselves pretty much on all cases
but video game is kinda like a book where your actions has direct impact of whats happening or could happen in a way it teaches you to react to a motion or environment
eventually puzzle and problem solving depending on the game and its difficulty
the first thing a child or at any age that games are designed for entertainment purposes and usually never educational
A scapegoat*
Forman is both impressed and disappointed. He had a house moment and still wasn’t first
"listen we are really not ok with you guessing as to what is wrong...let us guess what is wrong and perform dangerous life threatening procedures without confirmation."
To be fair, if it was up to the patient, he would've also performed life threatening procedures. Just different ones with confirmation.
Doctors aren’t guessing, they’re hypothesizing. And they have years of medical training, knowledge, and experience. If you think patients should just be able to dictate their own treatment procedures, when they lack knowledge of biology or medicine
@@bacon8891 Please tell me you don't actually believe hokum like this. You know colleges are for-profit right?
"Trust us, we're professionals."
You’re the one they’re making fun of
Watching this episode once is enough. Any more and I'm probably going to punch my screen seeing how pure frustration listening to this patient
Dude had a great radio voice. He should have dabbled in voice acting.
He voiced Imperius in Diablo 3, that's slightly more than dabbling.
@@brucetheloon Played like a fiddle. 😂
@@ammarharith5512 Is it played when you see it coming and do it anyway?
@@brucetheloon Still got played though, no indications that suggested otherwise.
It's cool. I'll die on that cross. I actually did not know.@@brucetheloon
"Whoa!! Cool graphics!!" 😂😂😂😂 If you remember that commercial, you're as old as me! 😂😂
I remember before any graphics. Had to use " peek and poke" BASIC commands and use letters or numbers to make a picture. Commodore Pet era.
It’s funny that foreman didn’t change his shirt 😂😂
6:02 CEDA zombie 1000 yard stare 👁 👁
And the next hallucination being a f***in' Halo elite 6:12
Gotta love how he hurls that coffee cup.
If only House was there to witness this. But he is out
but he's the one who posted the answer
the gigachad 4:10
🗿🗿🗿
It's like the creators of these shows have never played a video game before.
Guy sounds like the Allstate Man
Imagine having VR games in 2009
6:02 Love how a doctor at supposedly one of the best hospitals in the country is just like "geez, look at this obviously distressed patient who seems to be reacting to non-present stimuli. Why do we got a guy like that here, kids these days" and just walks away
I like how the headsets have nothing under or in the visors lol
Whenever a series puts a VR game into an episode, and someone says "It is SO realistic!", it never ages well. XD
This didn't actually, it's not quite there but not too far off either for a mid budget seasonal TV show nearly a decade away from commercially viable vr.
@@erueka6 Out of curiosity, were you aware of the VR headsets of the 90s?
They failed because they were just too expensive for people at the time (I tried them at games shops, but never got even close to being to afford one).
@@ScapestoatI had a toy imitation once it was weird and seen the Nintendo flop there's been more than that but like I said commercially viable and player usable vr I wouldn't count anything before the rift as vr not even sure what those decades ago would classify as now definitely an attempt but not vr
@@erueka6 From what I remember of it (I played MechWarrior 2 on it), it was not unlike strapping an Atari Lynx screen to your eyes.
It had stereo-speakers and head-tracking.
This was before Nintendo's attempt of VR, but I can't remember how much time are between the two.
At the time, I was very impressed by it, and the experience was comparable to that of a HTC Vive.
Memory is subjective, of course.
But I think it "Vive but with early 90s tech that nobody can afford" sounds like a fair enough description.
I do love it when doctors think they know what you're going through but really don't
I love it when people fit in real world situations and comment on them in reference to a fictional TV show they just watched.
I love it when people are honest. oh wait, your own experience could be lying to you and you wouldn't know it. you could also be lying.
but sure, the person in question is the smartest.
Dude needs some Tim Curry type roles
House be putting up with the craziest sh__ af
"Stuck in play mode" is hilarious
6:02 lol why tf is Foreman just looking at him 😂
He doesn't know what he's about to do and if he can handle it.
House would have thrown his laptop out of the window within 5 seconds if he was working this case
Your doctors only act detached because they have to focus on your problems, not you.
4:12 the face filter on him 🤣
no way this guy isn't yandere dev
The difference is, this guy actually works on his game.
its crazy because i just finished this episode yesterday as im watching the series :3
The Quetzalcoatlus outside the lobby that breaks in was awesome! Someone wanted their paleozoology noticed!
Would've been hilarious to see house deal with him
what texture pack is this
As a medical professional, i encourage everyone to research.
Really? Jesus Christ. When I got diagnosed with LGL, my doctor specifically told me to NOT research it when I get home but give it a while due to the fact that it would only make me worry over something that isn't as bad as it sounds, which he was right in the end. I am more likely to die of old age then from LGL.
@@JaymeSplendid Doi9ng your own research can help you understand what you are looking at.
While it can cause stress, it can also help alleviate some stress if the patient knows what they could, or will, be facing.
And informed patient, is a prepared patient.
@@JaymeSplendid That is frightening advice that would have made me get a second opinion. Did you know Lou Gehrig may not have had ALS, also known as "Lou Gehrig's Disease"?
I usually do a lot of research when I have a mental or health issue before coming to a professional because I feel like it gives me a better idea of how to deal with it in the meantime. But the guy in the episode just made me unreasonably angry because he is unwilling to change his self diagnosis when faced by a professional. He thinks he's way smarter than he is and it bugs me; or at least thinks the redditors from his thread are way smarter than they are.
The Internet remains undefeated.
The birbs are too real
this guys voice is awesome
6:40 that was sick 2006 was such a great year
The hallucinations were really cool.
I dont remember this episode...then again it's been over a decade
Doctors acting annoyed because the patient has looked remotely into their own problem makes my blood boil.
In particular since non-TV doctors can be next to useless for diagnosis sometimes.
But this isn't your local run of the mill clinic either. This is House's team of specialists. 99% of their patients wouldn't be there if you could just google the answer
@@RedStar_N7 And they're wrong every single episode. This show isn't as pro-expertise as it seems. It's filled with narcissists being reminded their egos have nothing to do with falsifiability and objectivity.
@@danloweand every single time they are right at the end, that's their job, if they were right from the beginning then they wouldn't get these cases.
In the world of house MD, these cases come from around the country and around the world, canonically. Because house's team is the best diagnostic team there is, all these cases have had 10s of doctors who have failed to diagnose the condition.
Ever heard of the scientific method, trial and error, while medicine is the worst place to make mistakes in, there are millions of conditions that have similar symptoms.
They have to take proper guesses, and bounce off ideas from each other, run tests, and in these cases, due to the lack of time they have to do life threatening procedures/treatments, before they test if they were right or wrong.
Blood culture tests takes days, and most of the time the patients has hours, so all they can do is treat and hope they are correct, and if they aren't they can rule it out, or possibly get a new symptom to find the true condition.
The annoying part is only when the patient thinks his opinion is above the doctors diagnosis. I've come to psychiatrists and doctors with ideas of what I might have based on research I've done and none has ever seemed annoyed by it, probably because I don't narcissistically put my opinion above the one coming from the people who have the tools to more accurately diagnose me.
This is how all the vr chat players feel
3:14 Gotta be the best part of the episode! 😂
I don't watch mr house show but for the first 10 seconds I was really excited to try it out! I didn't know it was about monkey space wars!! But its just a doctor show like I thought ... no monkey space wars!!! I so I don't know about anything that happens past 20 seconds ... doctor shows are for other people, I'm about monkeys in space!!
A House episode without House?
He's an unseen presence. Oh wait, that's a different episode.
Yeah where is house
who do you think posted the answer about Fabry disease that Thirteen read?
Where was house in this episode of foreman?
gonna have to pay that bounty now
4:08 1000 day mewing streak 💀
When the headset doesn't come off.
I appreciate the continuity of having Foreman still wearing the drink stained shirt.
Where is house in this episode??
I'd laught if the giant bird in the foyer was actually House coming in.
That would be a halluciation.
This show has so many misdiagnoses but then we always have cases similar to real people where it was considered one thing and finally confirmed to be the other. I would definitely not consider these kinds of medical forums and posts to be used for self-diagnosing but they ARE a good reference for Doctors to review even more medical cases, as long as they use it to check before doing any irreversible treatments.
All those doctors and nurses standing around staring while a patient is losing his mind
is that the left 4 dead 2 ceda guy in the thumbnail
ayooo
all that staff and no one helped....
As annoyingly stubborn as this guy was, it was kinda heartbreaking to see him give up in that tub...
VR side effects can cause hallucinations they were spot-on for future guestimates
This dude's medical bill must have been through the roof after staying so long and taking so many pointless tests.
“Chooses internet rather than listening to doctors”. Yet in the end it wasnt completely the worst decision…
I remember doing a lot of research for an issue my husband had. Went to the Dr with him and explained the situation and what does doc do? Googles it on the internet! This was after poo-pooing my research. 🙄
Yeah.....Doctor on the internet won. xD
Wasn't it House?
@@Izabela-ek5nh i thought that was just a running (though not unrealistic sounding) joke around here. Could there be some additional scene in this episode proving it true?
Out of curiosity where was house this whole episode?
Fresh out of mental hospital and looking for a research job instead, and taking up cooking.
I think he was in prison or rehab? And he was the one who posted the correct diagnosis on the page.
@@beckfenn5559 ahhhhh that would have been cool to see in the clip
Somebody PLEASE tell me you also hear a HL2 or maybe STALKER sound in the creak at 8:31
when google my symptoms i end up needing anxiety meds
She's very pretty. Her eyes in the final moment...
I do not get it if the guy was suffering from fabry disease what was up with the hallucinations best think I know about it is that it shuts down both the kidney, heart, and causes a stroke.
They said it in the video: the hallucinations were caused by an incredibly high fever.
Foreman really couldn’t change his shirt lol
When an ex plastic surgeon is your emergency anesthetician
i've gamed. I was in early dev of virtual decades ago (and we at that time, stook in the gear in a circular stand like they show in this show). The issue I have is, we did that 3 decades ago. I cannot imagine why on earth the developers would be setup the precisely same way as 3 decades ago. And, you know, the issue I have is, the level of details haven't improved that much for the way tech has improved the potential, for VR, really.
I don't "game" like gamers do. Never have, really. But, def have gamed at a level. I find the total immersion like someone looking for a full time escape. I have, however, worked with people who every moment they have, they're gaming, including breaks, lunches, and so on. So, there are people immersed like that. You do that enough, the lines can get fuzzy I'm sure. But, to do that, my guess is you're starting out with issues in reality (ADHD, ASD, and so on) to begin with.
But, this episode, nope. I feel like they stepped back 3 decades.
Helldivers 2: behind the scenes of development
bruv became quagmire