It's crazy to think there was approximately 70 dollars sitting in those solids still. I just started watching AK Gold Bear and he says the same thing you do. Trace amounts of gold follow the process everytime. I'm glad there are refiners like you that show the precise way to do this leaving no questions unanswered from yourself as well as your viewers! Wonderful as always and I appreciate the recovery videos even tho they are a pain in the butt to do I'm sure 😅
I am curious about those solids. As they came out of the silver cell slime, they must be mostly metallic in origin, but they don't dissolve in aqua regia and so much osmium and iridium is beyond belief. I am suspecting some insoluble salt and even though the silver is supposed to have been removed, I would recommend testing for silver chloride: 1) dissolve a small sample in ammonia 2) add a little potassium iodide, if there is a bright yellow precipitate, you just created AgI, proving you have silver.
I have watched many of your refining videos. I did chemistry up to the first year of my degree. I hope you don't mind some input from an armchair chemist You have mentioned how much of a pain too much silver can be when inquarting karat gold can be because it produces powdery metal. Anode filter slimes have: 1. Fine Au and PGM particulates (which you want to refine) 2. Fine Ag and Cu particulates from incompletely electrolyzed silver shot. 3. Ag and Cu nitrate solutions. Washing the slimes until the blue color of Cu nitrate has gone probably leaves clear Ag nitrate in solution. You need to wash the slimes more with distilled water and test the filtered water for the presence of Ag in solution (test method described by @apeeving). Repeat until the washed water does not test positive for Ag. The finely powdered metal seems to behave a bit unexpectedly so you could melt and cornflake the metal powder. You could even consider inquarting with more Cu. This experiment could determine whether the nitric acid dissolution stage is better with the metal as cornflake rather than powder. This should leave: 1. Au and trace PGMs - mainly Pt (most will follow the Ag into solution). Dissolve in aqua regia, precipitate the Au with ferrous sulphate and add the remaining solution (with Fe and trace Pt) to 2. 2 Cu, Ag (and Fe from 1.) and PGM in solution. Add HCl to precipitate AgCl and filter. Test to make sure no more Ag is in solution. Use Cu to precipitate the PGMs. After you get rid of the Ag, dissolve the Pd in nitric acid, leaving Pt which you can filter. Then drop the Pd out of solution with Cu. At least this minimizes your exposure to PGM salt solutions and precipitates.
Started watching your content a few years ago as an alternative for gold rush when the season ended! But your content is way better and much more interesting!
Same here sort of regarding gold rush... Sreetips was a YT recommend from watch BigStackD (which I super commented referencing Sreetip the other day) or from MBMM with was definitely recommended from watching BigStackD.
Love your videos I’ve been watching for a long time one day with the proper equipment I would like to recover from GP pins like you did years back. Thank you for teaching me! This content itself is gold!
I am glad you ran the solids a second time. With such a low yield, in the future will you just let the solids pile up and then process the entire pile? I find your hobby so fascinating only because you have the heart of a teacher. Another great video Sreetips, Thanks for sharing.
Nice work Sreetips. You have produced hundreds of hours of educational and entertaining videos of your journey into better understanding your hobby. We will miss you when you take a step back, but anyone reasonable would completely understand. And those that dont? Well tough cookies. There will always be those that demand their pound of flesh. We appreciate what youv shown us, its truly been inspirational and is much appreciated. Youv supplied an entire library of small scale refining resources. Its a huge accomplishment. Bravo mate, well done and again, Thankyou.
Glad I read that I guess I haven't been paying attention and need to do some catching up (thanks for the insight). I wonder how long till he starts twitching and going through withdrawals?
@@Rob337_aka_CancelProofwithdrawals from filming, editing and uploading? I doubt it... 😄 He may just revert back to it being purely a hobby. Maybe update us with an improvementin in his process every now and again. All the basics are here and much more. The ball is in our court now.
I just recently realized that this is the trace gold waste from the inquarted gold nitric boils. Made me wonder a couple things- a half oz seems like a lot. Was this all of the slimes from that huge pot of shot? And, is this waste loss mainly from traces of dissolved gold or from sediment that pours over? Thanks again for your work. I absolutely love the recovery content.
@@sreetips I think that illustrates just how much refining this represents in order to accumulate that much trace gold. Really impressive time capsule of the work you’ve done. Again, thanks for sharing it with us.
What is in that stuff that clogged the filters? Could it be organic compounds? Or is it the DMG? I am invested in finding out what we learn from the experiment.
Good job, Sreetips. I just wonder, what are these solids on the frit? AgCl mixed with platinum? What about stirring it with NaOH, reducing elemental silver, then dissolving it in HNO3? It is quite a lot of material.
You reach the point of diminishing returns really quick with the gold. I love how the silver just keeps piling up! How many buckets of cement you still have waiting to process LoL lots and lots...
Nice problem to have. Only 27.6 Million ounces left in Registered on the COMEX mate! Keep stashing it away, you're going to be utterly minted pretty soon.
As long as they can print money out of thin air, and as long as people believe it’s valuable, then nothing will change. Both gold and silver will remain grossly undervalued. But when that faith begins to erode then there will be a stampede into the metals. When? Who knows. But if ya wait for that to happen then it will be too late. I’m converting paper to metal now while it’s still dirt cheap.
i dont know if the diminishing returns are that great considering how much gold (and to a lesser extent, PGMs) follows the silver in the silver nitrate and cementing out on the copper that he then retrieves from the slime left over in the silver cell anode filters makes me wonder if there isn't a gold cell that could be made from that stuff to save on chemical usage
It’s funny I was going to ask if you were going to process the solids again! Glad to see you’ve done this! I’ve always been curious what your thoughts were on saving filters after they’ve been processed and maybe smelting a large pile of them with some lead or silver as a collector metal and then recovering again to check for any amounts of remaining pms?
A little off topic from your video... I see that you have been making gold/silver mix melted and poured into cold water for the silver cell. Have you thought or maybe even used a Oasis Lead Shot Maker to make your shot? Would that even be something easer to have a more controlled uniformed size to be used in your silver cell?...
It was worth that one extra refining pass. We all know it won't be viable to do a 3rd Sreetips. 14g...1.2g... Anyone can plot that graph and say that's a wrap for the gold run 😄Looking forward to the PGM extractions. Till next time Sreetips!
Since you started this series, i have been meaning to ask you, did you incorporate your previous PGM refining into this refining or did you cash that in?
while its not that hard to figure out, you do have another series called " silver cell anode filters part # " maybe just throw 2023 in the title of the next one ;) thanks for the content
Watching episode 2 for the 5th time, been busy... Anyways so I do not forget... Can you get highly permeable filters to filter out the saturates or precipitates initially and filter it a second time with the filters you currently use?
I cant remember where but somewhere you got a red crystaline percipitate after percipitating Platinum. That could be RhodiumChloride and I read on wikipedia you can reduce that with Hydrogen into Rhodium.
Hi friend, I have a question please. I have palladium 96% purity and 4% gold. when diluting with Aqua regia....which metal should I start with? Another question: when I add sodium metabisulphite does it only precipitate gold or will PD also precipitate?
11:39 I don't remember seeing you denox, so if that's all the gold there was, what happened the rest of the nitric acid from that heavy dose you put in the aqua regia?
What do you think your estimated amount of silver shot that goes through each of those filters? Just a guess, if you don't know. Just trying to figure out how much silver it takes to get as much gold as you get when you do this. Thanks
At the end of the last video, when Sreetips said “…almost a half of an ounce..” I knew right then he was goin back to those solids to get over that half ounce mark. 💪💪😂 Edit: Sooo close! 😩
In the case of gold-plated silver, would it be possible to melt the jewelry down into shot and run it through the silver cell as though it were only silver (ignoring the gold) or would the gold clog up the filter too much?
Check with “nickv” on the goldrefiningforum.com he’s the user there that set me up with them. Apparently, according to the GRF, there’s no specialty lab in the USA who can properly do it.
The solids are the anode mud from his silver cell. When he cements out silver with copper metal, the resulting silver is 98%-99% pure. He then takes that silver and runs it through his silver cell, which uses electricity to dissolve the impure silver and plate out pure silver crystals on the cathode. As the silver at the anode goes into solution, it leaves behind those solids, which consist of gold and platinum group metals.
No. I think tungsten and mercury are below copper in the reactivity series (look up reactivity series on the internet). They will cement out with the precious metals, if they are present.
@@sreetips Thank you. Excuse me, one more question, does rhodium precipitate with DMG? I added DMG to my platinum solution after the platinum was precipitated, my solution turned a dark wine color, and with it a dark red precipitate and a milkshake color. What could these be? That's why I asked the previous question if it can be cemented with precious metals on copper of other metals, because I only knew that DMG only precipitates palladium.i dont have nickel in my solution
@streetips is it possible to make an aluminum chloride electrolyte cell to precipitate the Aluminum? I think the cathode and anode should be graphite, but don't know the voltage it requires
Sreetips, what makes up the solids in the large funnel/filter at the end? I have watched series but do not remember what might be making it up. What do you do with that material from here?
I’ve sold to Elemetal Direct. I’ve sold to ARA in Dallas TX. I’ve sold to private individuals via bank wire transfer. I’ve sold to individuals on my eBay site. But with gold so grossly under valued (silver too) I’m not selling any of my gold.
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It's crazy to think there was approximately 70 dollars sitting in those solids still. I just started watching AK Gold Bear and he says the same thing you do. Trace amounts of gold follow the process everytime. I'm glad there are refiners like you that show the precise way to do this leaving no questions unanswered from yourself as well as your viewers! Wonderful as always and I appreciate the recovery videos even tho they are a pain in the butt to do I'm sure 😅
Really enjoyed watching this series and seeing your problem solving skills put to the test. This channel is gold, no pun intened.
I am curious about those solids. As they came out of the silver cell slime, they must be mostly metallic in origin, but they don't dissolve in aqua regia and so much osmium and iridium is beyond belief. I am suspecting some insoluble salt and even though the silver is supposed to have been removed, I would recommend testing for silver chloride:
1) dissolve a small sample in ammonia
2) add a little potassium iodide, if there is a bright yellow precipitate, you just created AgI, proving you have silver.
I have watched many of your refining videos. I did chemistry up to the first year of my degree. I hope you don't mind some input from an armchair chemist
You have mentioned how much of a pain too much silver can be when inquarting karat gold can be because it produces powdery metal.
Anode filter slimes have:
1. Fine Au and PGM particulates (which you want to refine)
2. Fine Ag and Cu particulates from incompletely electrolyzed silver shot.
3. Ag and Cu nitrate solutions.
Washing the slimes until the blue color of Cu nitrate has gone probably leaves clear Ag nitrate in solution. You need to wash the slimes more with distilled water and test the filtered water for the presence of Ag in solution (test method described by @apeeving). Repeat until the washed water does not test positive for Ag.
The finely powdered metal seems to behave a bit unexpectedly so you could melt and cornflake the metal powder. You could even consider inquarting with more Cu. This experiment could determine whether the nitric acid dissolution stage is better with the metal as cornflake rather than powder.
This should leave:
1. Au and trace PGMs - mainly Pt (most will follow the Ag into solution). Dissolve in aqua regia, precipitate the Au with ferrous sulphate and add the remaining solution (with Fe and trace Pt) to 2.
2 Cu, Ag (and Fe from 1.) and PGM in solution. Add HCl to precipitate AgCl and filter. Test to make sure no more Ag is in solution. Use Cu to precipitate the PGMs.
After you get rid of the Ag, dissolve the Pd in nitric acid, leaving Pt which you can filter. Then drop the Pd out of solution with Cu.
At least this minimizes your exposure to PGM salt solutions and precipitates.
These vids are great for nights when I have trouble getting tired. The white noise in the background makes me drowsy.
Thank you once again SREETIPS, I love your calm, meticulous, thorough, careful work. Always so very educational.
Love seeing the follow up after my question about those sands. Is amazing the junk that comes from the silver jar!
Excellent as always Sir.
Good demonstration of diminishing returns.
Well done sir. Thank you for the series. Can’t wait for pt6.
Started watching your content a few years ago as an alternative for gold rush when the season ended! But your content is way better and much more interesting!
Thank you!
Are you gonna collect the palladium
Same here sort of regarding gold rush... Sreetips was a YT recommend from watch BigStackD (which I super commented referencing Sreetip the other day) or from MBMM with was definitely recommended from watching BigStackD.
Yes
Love your videos I’ve been watching for a long time one day with the proper equipment I would like to recover from GP pins like you did years back. Thank you for teaching me! This content itself is gold!
I like the longer format videos much more.
I think it’s beginning to be a burden. My wonderful enjoyable hobby feels like work.
Your hobby has to be fun. Otherwise what's the point?
Good point!
I am glad you ran the solids a second time. With such a low yield, in the future will you just let the solids pile up and then process the entire pile?
I find your hobby so fascinating only because you have the heart of a teacher.
Another great video Sreetips,
Thanks for sharing.
Possibly
Thank you for another video, I enjoy watching the process and cannot wait until the next video!
Just joined your channel yesterday. My head is spinning with all the information contained here.
Absolutely fascinating to watch you work.❤️
Welcome!
Still not to bad it all adds up excellent video awesome content thank you for sharing this six stars sir
Thank Sreetips, I love the work you do it’s fascinating.
This has been a fascinating series. Love it. 👍
Nice work Sreetips.
You have produced hundreds of hours of educational and entertaining videos of your journey into better understanding your hobby.
We will miss you when you take a step back, but anyone reasonable would completely understand.
And those that dont? Well tough cookies. There will always be those that demand their pound of flesh. We appreciate what youv shown us, its truly been inspirational and is much appreciated. Youv supplied an entire library of small scale refining resources. Its a huge accomplishment.
Bravo mate, well done and again, Thankyou.
Glad I read that I guess I haven't been paying attention and need to do some catching up (thanks for the insight).
I wonder how long till he starts twitching and going through withdrawals?
@@Rob337_aka_CancelProofwithdrawals from filming, editing and uploading? I doubt it... 😄
He may just revert back to it being purely a hobby.
Maybe update us with an improvementin in his process every now and again.
All the basics are here and much more. The ball is in our court now.
Great video. Can't wait for the pgm refining. It would be cool to see iridium and rhodium refining
If I get any PGMs then it will probably be platinum and palladium.
I wonder how much gold is in your shirt sleeves?
Not enough to refine. There needs to be more than a trace amount of a given metal to make refining worthwhile.
I just recently realized that this is the trace gold waste from the inquarted gold nitric boils. Made me wonder a couple things- a half oz seems like a lot. Was this all of the slimes from that huge pot of shot? And, is this waste loss mainly from traces of dissolved gold or from sediment that pours over? Thanks again for your work. I absolutely love the recovery content.
Traces of gold dissolve in boiling nitric acid.
@@sreetips I think that illustrates just how much refining this represents in order to accumulate that much trace gold. Really impressive time capsule of the work you’ve done. Again, thanks for sharing it with us.
What is in that stuff that clogged the filters? Could it be organic compounds? Or is it the DMG? I am invested in finding out what we learn from the experiment.
I don’t know. I’ve never seen that before. Every refining is different.
Good job, Sreetips. I just wonder, what are these solids on the frit? AgCl mixed with platinum? What about stirring it with NaOH, reducing elemental silver, then dissolving it in HNO3? It is quite a lot of material.
STREETIPS RULES! 💛💛💛🤙✌🖖
You reach the point of diminishing returns really quick with the gold. I love how the silver just keeps piling up! How many buckets of cement you still have waiting to process LoL lots and lots...
I’m getting too far behind.
Nice problem to have. Only 27.6 Million ounces left in Registered on the COMEX mate! Keep stashing it away, you're going to be utterly minted pretty soon.
As long as they can print money out of thin air, and as long as people believe it’s valuable, then nothing will change. Both gold and silver will remain grossly undervalued. But when that faith begins to erode then there will be a stampede into the metals. When? Who knows. But if ya wait for that to happen then it will be too late. I’m converting paper to metal now while it’s still dirt cheap.
i dont know if the diminishing returns are that great considering how much gold (and to a lesser extent, PGMs) follows the silver in the silver nitrate and cementing out on the copper that he then retrieves from the slime left over in the silver cell anode filters
makes me wonder if there isn't a gold cell that could be made from that stuff to save on chemical usage
Gooood afternoon from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great afternoon!
Goooood afternoon!
Thanks for sharing your process, I'm always learning.
Always amazes me what you can do with funny coloured liquid lol. I’m enjoying your science more and more.
It’s funny I was going to ask if you were going to process the solids again! Glad to see you’ve done this!
I’ve always been curious what your thoughts were on saving filters after they’ve been processed and maybe smelting a large pile of them with some lead or silver as a collector metal and then recovering again to check for any amounts of remaining pms?
I save all my filters and process then
Sreetips thanks for the update i love these videos i watch everyone of them
A little off topic from your video... I see that you have been making gold/silver mix melted and poured into cold water for the silver cell. Have you thought or maybe even used a Oasis Lead Shot Maker to make your shot? Would that even be something easer to have a more controlled uniformed size to be used in your silver cell?...
Uniform size is better, yes.
I really enjoy your videos!
Rocker,Roller,Right out of controller!!!
It was worth that one extra refining pass. We all know it won't be viable to do a 3rd Sreetips. 14g...1.2g... Anyone can plot that graph and say that's a wrap for the gold run 😄Looking forward to the PGM extractions. Till next time Sreetips!
Excellent.
Nothing goes to Waste. Every bit counts. Better than throwing it out.
Since you started this series, i have been meaning to ask you, did you incorporate your previous PGM refining into this refining or did you cash that in?
I haven’t added any PGMs to this series.
a pleasure as usual
while its not that hard to figure out, you do have another series called " silver cell anode filters part # " maybe just throw 2023 in the title of the next one ;) thanks for the content
Watching episode 2 for the 5th time, been busy... Anyways so I do not forget... Can you get highly permeable filters to filter out the saturates or precipitates initially and filter it a second time with the filters you currently use?
Doubtful
What ARE those extra solids that you have already extracted the PMs from? I was expecting everything to be gold, silver, or PGMs.
I do not know.
I cant remember where but somewhere you got a red crystaline percipitate after percipitating Platinum. That could be RhodiumChloride and I read on wikipedia you can reduce that with Hydrogen into Rhodium.
I remember red precipitate from zinc, I think.
maybe I saw it with omegageek, he did a stockpot. I'll probably find it @@sreetips
Sir as always amazing content
Hi friend, I have a question please. I have palladium 96% purity and 4% gold. when diluting with Aqua regia....which metal should I start with? Another question: when I add sodium metabisulphite does it only precipitate gold or will PD also precipitate?
Not sure about that. I use DMG for palladium. SMB will bring down traces of PGMs, if present.
First 👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing 😊
nice series
11:39 I don't remember seeing you denox, so if that's all the gold there was, what happened the rest of the nitric acid from that heavy dose you put in the aqua regia?
Don’t know
@@sreetips XD
Teleported to "The Pile"...
(with all those single socks I'm missing)
I think that I over-boiled it and that’s where most of the excess nitric went.
What do you think your estimated amount of silver shot that goes through each of those filters?
Just a guess, if you don't know.
Just trying to figure out how much silver it takes to get as much gold as you get when you do this.
Thanks
It’s about 50 Troy ounces
Sweet come on part 6
Nearly a half ounce total on gold! Nice! I just cringe thinking about the pgm's!
I wonder if the leftover "sand" in the funnel has something to do with the DMG. Is it possible it reacted with something in the dissolved slimes?
I don’t know what that is.
I'm going to sit here and wait for part 6.
I'm dying here too........
At the end of the last video, when Sreetips said “…almost a half of an ounce..” I knew right then he was goin back to those solids to get over that half ounce mark. 💪💪😂
Edit: Sooo close! 😩
Thanks 😊
In the case of gold-plated silver, would it be possible to melt the jewelry down into shot and run it through the silver cell as though it were only silver (ignoring the gold) or would the gold clog up the filter too much?
Not recommended.
I work the same way and produce 10 kilos a day
Still worth it!
I thought stump out was potassium nitrate? Please explain. Thank you.
Stump Out by BONIDE is Sodium Metabisulfite. Stump Out by Spectricide is Potassium Nitrate.
Question: I remember a video showing that you had your silver crystals tested for purity level (999.9 or 9999.9). What lab did you use?
Guardian Labs in the U.K.
The U.K.. I'm going to look for something closer. 😁👽 Thank you.
Check with “nickv” on the goldrefiningforum.com he’s the user there that set me up with them. Apparently, according to the GRF, there’s no specialty lab in the USA who can properly do it.
Hello sir, I hope for some answer on my question, what are those solids...
The solids are the anode mud from his silver cell. When he cements out silver with copper metal, the resulting silver is 98%-99% pure. He then takes that silver and runs it through his silver cell, which uses electricity to dissolve the impure silver and plate out pure silver crystals on the cathode. As the silver at the anode goes into solution, it leaves behind those solids, which consist of gold and platinum group metals.
@@alex_stanley Yes, but there are still insoluble solids in the funnel, that were handled by acids, all silver and gold is extracted 4:36
The solids that are left in the filter after this last extraction: I have no clue
@@sreetips honest answer... 🙂 thank you
At what point you stop extracting the sediments?
Usually after the first extraction.
thank you
Let’s see what you have got in part 6 🎉
Hello sir.Is it possible to cement on copper except for gold, silver and platinum group?
Gold silver and platinum group will cement on copper because copper is higher up in the reactivity series of metals.
@@sreetips thanks,So it is not possible to cement another metal, all metals are precious, right??
No. I think tungsten and mercury are below copper in the reactivity series (look up reactivity series on the internet). They will cement out with the precious metals, if they are present.
@@sreetips Thank you. Excuse me, one more question, does rhodium precipitate with DMG? I added DMG to my platinum solution after the platinum was precipitated, my solution turned a dark wine color, and with it a dark red precipitate and a milkshake color. What could these be? That's why I asked the previous question if it can be cemented with precious metals on copper of other metals, because I only knew that DMG only precipitates palladium.i dont have nickel in my solution
@streetips is it possible to make an aluminum chloride electrolyte cell to precipitate the Aluminum? I think the cathode and anode should be graphite, but don't know the voltage it requires
I’ve never worked with aluminum.
Sreetips, what makes up the solids in the large funnel/filter at the end? I have watched series but do not remember what might be making it up. What do you do with that material from here?
I don’t know what that stuff is.
Where is part 6 sir?
Still sitting on my bench.
Whooohoooo!!
Can you tell me where do you sell your refined gold?
I’ve sold to Elemetal Direct. I’ve sold to ARA in Dallas TX. I’ve sold to private individuals via bank wire transfer. I’ve sold to individuals on my eBay site. But with gold so grossly under valued (silver too) I’m not selling any of my gold.
@@sreetips Thanks Sreetips.🙏
Next refining gold waste jar? I love this kind of video where we can change trash@waste into something valuable
Wow that's a lot of non dissolvable solids.
👍
Yeeeesssssss
What is your Ebay ID? Thanks!
Same as my TH-cam: sreetips
I was hoping ud hit them solids again