Putting things in perspective of age, Paulina, the drummer and singer here, started writing music for the album Queen Of The Murder Scene, which this song, Dust To Dust is on, in her years in middle school, which when it was actually released, she was 16 years old. Which makes her older sister, Daniela 18, and her younger sister, Alejandra 13. So, this is the level they were at in those years. That in itself is pretty impressive.
Yeah, it take a the wind out of the sails of the complaint i’ve read elsewhere that “these lyrics sound like an angsty middle-school girl’s diary.” Of course they do, but, dang, those hooks and beats! Turn it up! I look forward to them rocking the future.
@@jrrarglblarg9241 Yep. It _was_ "an angsty middle-school girl" who crafted the whole thing. Well, _girls_ , plural. Pau's ideas fleshed out with her sisters... but still incredible work for a bunch of kids. There was a photo of Pau's notebook floating around a few years ago, that apparently dated to when she was 12, where she jotted down "Red Hands Never Fade" as an idea for a song and this seems to be the beginning seed of the whole concept album. From a _twelve year old_ . Think about that for a moment...
@@MrJest2 Their youth plus the potential lifespan of a professional rock act as demonstrated by recent tours of new material by Metallica, Scorpions, Iron Maiden and Def Leppard is one of my favorite things about them. They’ll still be rocking when I’m a hundred and seven. My other fave thing about The Warning is all the kids inspired by them. YT offers me a lot of small-subscriber musicians and a surprising number of 9 to 14 year old girls are doing Warning covers in basement and garage studios, and starting to write their own songs. 😃👍 Rock will outlive me!
This channel is a great supporter of The Warning and music in general. Buying his book to support him too, he deserves it, I bet the stories in there will be fun. Rock on!
This is where I disagree with a lot of musician that react on TH-cam, being technically knowledgeable they tend to put the emphasis more on how complex the playing is, but to me after 40 years of listening of all kinds of music styles, I have come to the conclusion that more often than not, less is more, complexity for its own sake is should not be a goal, if it does not add to the song, it is not necessary, for the dynamics, the intent, the subtle bends and slides, this adds way more to the performance.
The main thing that makes TW so popular and is propelling them to superstardom is that, not only are they good at what they do, THEY ARE ENTERTAINING. Three beautiful girls, easy on the eyes, but they never ever sell themselves as sex objects, playing as they always do in clothes they could wear to the mall.
Thanks for the reaction Joel, and while every song may not be for every person he did light up watching Pau play/sing, thanks for supporting these ladies.🤘🎸🔥
When he somewhat described what he meant by basic, I was like “Oh! Yeah, complex instrumentals aren’t really where The Warning members spend their efforts,”though I assume they are capable of much more complex playing.
Hey, even though he wasn't completely into the song, I still give him props for recognizing the band as being great. Albert is a member of one of my favorite groups back in the day. So Bravo! Thanks Joel!
I think it’s important to note that he said all kinds of very nice things. Those of you who tend to expect everyone to immediately start gushing with overwhelming praise should take a deep breath and accept the positive rather than dwell on anything that you perceive as mildly negative. Also? Simple isn’t necessarily bad. AC/DC is very simple…but they play that simple music brilliantly, and they reach people. Just as TW does.
A song doesn't have to be super complex or shreddy on guitar to be a great song that stays in your head on repeat. A lot of the best songs in the history of music are basic. I dont think he knows that QOTMS is a concept album that tells a story, and a really good one, that was written by teenagers. I listened to BOC back in the days and liked a lot of their songs, but there were quite a bit I didnt care for. I still haven't come across a TW song I don't like, and I've heard their whole catalog. But that's cool. Everyone has their own taste in music. Thanks for supporting and spreading the word on TW⚡️ Joel.
For the people in the comments section ripping on Albert's reaction of The Warning's song "Dust to Dust" performed live, thinking he didn't like the band or was being negative, take the blooming cotton out of your ear holes. He said the band was great. He said Paulina was great. He loved the performance. He just didn't care for the song itself. If you asked 1000 fans to name their top 5 The Warning songs and top 5 least favorite The Warning songs, not all 1000 of the Warning Army would agree.
Most people mainly took issue with him dismissing the song as simple and cliche, not the fact he didn’t like it. It’s one thing to state it wasn’t to his taste, but to say it was simple and cliche is a bit much. Specially from one artist to another.
@@andgar923 I get that, but fans have to realize that how they react to music is different to seasoned musicians and people in the music industry in general. When it comes to music, painting, film, photography... art in general..., one's peers are often the most harshest of critics, whether that criticism is fair or not. If a person likes a song regardless of how simple or complex it is from a music theory perspective, then it really shouldn't matter whether or not someone else agrees with them or not. I get that we all want people to like what we like, but while one can find like minded person's, not everbody is going to agree or like the same thing. That is part of the reason there are so many types, so many genres of music. When it comes to Albert's comments about "Dust to Dust," I don't know him personally, only through his music with Blue Oyster Cult from the 70s and early 80s; so, I have no idea what he meant by "simple and cliche" after praising The Warning's performance and especially gushing over Paulina. We'll just have to agree to disagree that his comment was a "bit much."
@@bobmiller6870 I agree artists view work differently. But artists are generally more respectful towards each other even if they're correct. It's professional etiquette and respect. Yeah he liked Pau, but at the same time dismissed the song ignoring that they too have "simple and cliche" tracks. I went through some of their catalog after watching this. And yes they were good, but he wasn't as good as Pau, the bassist wasn't as good as Ale, the guitarist shredded more but none could sing as well as any of the 3. Their lyrics were dull and uninspiring for the vast majority of the time. While perhaps not simple, they too were filled with cliches and followed contemporary standards of the era. I still like them, hell... I actually like them even more going back and revisiting more of their work. But his comment was classless regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with his comment.
BÖC was one of my favorite bands in the mid 70s. I was a bit surprised that Albert thought the song was simple and cliche. I mean The Reaper is the most famous of their songs (and a truly fantastic song) and honestly not so much more elaborated that many of TW songs. I would put TW song writing skills and production level on the same level as BÖC's. Maybe from a musician perspective BÖC are/were slight more advanced. But he liked the group so we take that
Agree. I would put The Warning's dark themes and heavy guitar riffs as being right up there with The BOC. I love the Warning. But you can't touch Buck Dharma . Rock and Roll, people !
Can't please them all, but thanks for trying Joel! 🤘 Albert ever sing as a drummer himself? I honestly can't remember, it's been so long since I heard any of their material. I think it's time for you to go see these ladies live in concert. They will be playing just south of you in Tijuana on their Mexican leg of the Error World tour. If you really feel up to it, their biggest headlining gig yet is at the Pepsi center in CDMX. Over twice as big as this Teatro Metro series. Pretty sure they will be releasing new singles on this leg. Also the push to release ALL of the Teatro songs.
Albert was probably the worst of all the band (and they all sang). I know he's got a lot of fans, but I never cared for his vocals. And honestly, it's a bit funny him talking about it being basic, because his rerecorded Imaginos project has some really simplistic vocal melodies.
I think that's why he asked him how old he was when he wrote his first song. I think he knew it would have felt like a one-up to mention their ages after he asked the question though. Haha!
Joel, I always love when you introduce your friends to new artists. I grew up with Blue Oyster Cult playing across the street from my home when they were at college at Stony Brook University. I was too interested in playing sports with my friends but could hear when Blue Oyster Cult was playing an outdoor concert. By the time I was in high school, I became a fan of the group.
Joel, cool that you're spreading the word. Interesting reaction from Albert. Okay, the song doesn't hit the spot for him, but hey everyone's different. But it's cool that he rates TW highly, and it's neat getting a drummer's reaction to Pau. And while I gather a drummer singing lead isn't unique, it isn't commonplace and Pau is pretty darn awesome at it.
In 1978 I went to Day on the Green #5 concert in Oakland Ca and BOC was one of 4 groups who played. (Nugent, Journey, Cheap Trick}, all were fun to watch but I dare say none were superband status. Godzilla, Burnin' for You etc. are all simple songs but catchy.
Glad he likes the band and the drummer, I never really liked blue oyster cult, but..they seemed to be fair artists. The grimm reaper song is kinda catchy, but nothing to die for, I know there's other songs I have heard of them but I can not even remember. I hope his album gets any attention. Cheers
Hey Joel! You should have told him that they wrote this song when they were 18, 16 and 13 years old. Actually 13 year old Ale is the one who came up with the bassline to build the song around. Maybe he would have been more impressed if you told him an 8th grader wrote it! hahaha
One of my go to band is Blue Oyster colt but but I think I think the Warning does have some colt influence ! I see the Girls influenced by all the older bands these ladies have done their Homework I'm sure they got the Crowd! Flow of music in their sets just awesome
The man knows talent when he sees it. He is a drummer so his focus was on Pau mostly.He wasn’t a fan of the song but it appears that he appreciated the bands talent.
Many BOC songs were also simple and straightforward, like Godzilla, Tattoo Vampire or Burnin' for you. Absolute bangers, although I would compare "Dust to Dust" more with "Don't fear the reaper" (thematically and mood wise) Mr. Bouchard is a true legend and I'm glad he's doing well. Hey Joel, can you have Buck Dharma too? I think he has a lot in common with Paulina (some geniuses come in small packages, it seems)
Love blue oyster cult, has a few ICONIC songs, the complete body of work of the Warning at their current age and at the age they started writing is very impressive to me personally, it will be interesting when it’s all said and done, so many instant classics already
I think what I like about The Warning is their catchy, “simple” rhythm in this song. However the way they trade off the lead vocals and layer the harmonies is far from simple. Love the way this songs starts slow and soft and ends fast and hard.
Interesting reaction; I don't understand the complexity = a good song, but maybe its just a matter of taste/preference. If complexity = good song then we're just listening to Rush, Tool, a few other bands? That's a rhetorical question --- folks can listen/not listen to whatever they want of course.
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Hay que respetar las opiniones y gustos de cada quien. Finalmente el expresó que le gustó la banda, que es un buen grupo. Y sólo con una sola escucha de una sola canción. No sería nada raro que si las siguiera escuchando terminarían por encantarle. Viva The Warning! Viva TWA!
Los mejores y mas creativos 8 grupos de rock hasta el 2023 ,1-Let Zeppelin 2-The Beatles 3- Blak Sabbath 4-Pink Floyd 5-Deep Purple 6-Iron Maiden 7- Rush 8- The Warning puro rock de calidad
The song "dust to dust" is the prelude to one of the greatest concept album ever written ! The really doesn't make sence by itself so you pretty much need to listen to the album and the songs in order as the music and lyrics tell a story..the last song on the album "The end" not only completes the story but actually you understand why the album starts with dust to dust and brings the story full circle. The song by itself is just avg. The concept of the album and the story it tells is what make thus sing brilliant and great , same with other songs off the queen of the murder scene album. They are good songs by themselves but the lyrics don't make sense unless you apply them to the story being told in the album
Context would have persuaded him. First time I heard Dust to Dust i had mixed feelings too. But like all songs on QOTMS, all songs should be heard in order; it's a concept album telling a very dark story written and arranged by then teenagers. I'm still captivated by this album even after two years of listening to it.
I agree, Knowing their backstory makes them way more impressive. I been following them before any of them were adults (not in a creepy way LOL). Off topic, BOC has never been my cup of tea.
That was an interesting reaction. I thought he would like the song a bit more. He, at least, enjoyed the band, and especially Pau. Makes sense. 'Dust to Dust' was the first Warning song I heard, so I'm a little biased towards. Regardless, I appreciate his honesty. I'm curious to see what else you have in store for him.
I can guarantee you Albert *NEVER EVER* read about The Warning in Rolling Stone unless that magazine is printed in Español. Read some of these comments & like usual. Didn't listen to well. Albert didn't care for the song Dust to Dust but like the band. Especially a singing drummer. Albert is *MORE* of an *Evolve* or *Disciple* type guy. Joel, next time Albert comes on. Play him a song written by a 13 year old girl. Song, of course, is from The Warning called *Black Holes* (video from The Dakota Bar in Mexico). Yeah. Albert is stuck in the past. But heck. Still be fun listening to his 🐃💩 just hanging around with tunes playing.
The Warning actually did appear in the U.S. edition of Rolling Stone back in 2022. They were featured & interviewed in an article about the Metallica Blacklist album. Their own original material has never been featured, however…so you’re half right.
Albert, Albert, Albert! Albert needs exposure to a few more Warning songs and a bit more of their back story, and I'm sure he be joining The Warning Army! He'll, Albert, these girls were making rock and roll songs at an earlier age than you! By the way, I Love Blue Oyster Cult!!
Albert was 20 when he joined his first band (soft white underbelly) which morfed into BOC . . . . At that age the girls had already put out an EP and a cpl of albums . . . Shame he wasnt told that it was part of the concept album QMS that Pau wrote at an early age (15)ish ?? . And that they were sisters . . Glad he liked the band . . .
@@rogerreed905absolutely incorrect. Yes, Pau comes up with concepts but, except for some very early songs and a few exceptions, they write everything together including lyrics.
@@rogerreed905 I mean if you did not know that CQ was 100% done by Dany alone then i'm not sure you are an authority on their creative process. Yes Pau tends to have the most ideas that end up being completed songs that get recorded, but they all have ideas that become completed songs. The state of the song that Pau presents or any of them present to the rest of the band is not always the same, sometimes it's just an idea, sometimes there are some lyrics, sometimes it's a melody, sometimes a bit of all. The thing that is important to understand is when the 3 start working on it together the song takes on a new life and some or most of what Pau presented might get changed. Pau has stated that at first she had a hard time dealing with the fact that Dany and Ale wanted to change what she presented to them. In time she came to realize that once the 3 started working on it it became their song and no longer just hers and that the songs would have been different or never completed without the help of her sisters. Just to name a few songs from QOTMS that were not started by Pau. Ale started Dust to Dust, Dany started Qotms, Dany wrote QC alone, Ugh/the sacrifice/the one all came from elements not used on Ugh, a song they had a hard time working on and completing together. there are others in the album but those are the few that come to mind without more research. The idea for the album might of come from Pau but the finished product is a result of the 3 of them together. So when you say "Ale and Dany didnt have much to do with the writing of the album" and you also say"Im going by what i hear them say" they have never stated that Ale and Dany didn't do much, they actually say the opposite of that. You are basically stating what you think and not what they have told us. It's par for the coarse that Pau fans or fans that just don't know any better are always trying to give Pau full credit for the creative process and totally dismissing Ale and Dany's contribution. that is opposite of what the band has always said.
Dust to Dust was the first TW song I heard besides the enter sandman covers way back when. they fell off my radar. I wasn't blown away at the time with their cover with Cara but I did like it. I was amazed by them when they did it as kids. I wouldn't say hearing Dust to Dust hooked me at first either. It was ok but I really liked Pau. She was fierce and she stuck with me. Over the next few days I was thinking about that song by those 3 girls and especially their badass drummer. then, it popped up again. This time I listened closer and noticed "the guitar player" looked really fkn familiar there. It was the Lunario version. Then it dawned on me I had seen them before somewhere. I started looking up their songs and fell down the rabbit hole. Dust to Dust is my favorite song. I still love Pau and her fierceness. I love Dani and Ale too but Pau is what hooked me. So don't take it personally and maybe it will grow on him. I love classic rock but BoC isn't my cup of tea. The thing is that is ok because if everyone loved the same thing then the world would fkn suck.
The best and most creative 8 rock groups until 2023, 1-Let Zeppelin 2-The Beatles 3- Blak Sabbath 4-Pink Floyd 5-Deep Purple 6-Iron Maiden 7- Rush 8- The Warning pure quality rock
I saw some videos of BOC, honestly I disagree when he says simple TW's song, BOC'S old riffs are generally are simple too, however BOC's drummer fills are very good at that age
Well, that’s an “old” song from The Warning (for a band their age 5 years ago is a lot), and they most have been around 13 (Ale, the bassist), 15 (Pau, the drummer) and 18 (Dany, the guitarist), and of course it’s not that complex, specially next to the music they’re doing now, when they are now all of them not children any more. Still very young but already adults, and yes, of course they’ve evolved from the times they wrote this song and were still not very popular, still a totally independent band to nowadays they’re a band signed by a big label, with much more experience, opening concerts for big rock bands (Foo Fighters, Guns N’ Roses, Muse), going on tour next to bands like Halestorm, The Pretty Reckless and Three Days Grace, and yes, already going on tour not just to North and South America, but also to Europe (pulled by Muse to open more shows, not just those at Mexico, then having their own shows at several countries of the old continent); they’re a very young (because of their age, although they have been playing for ten years), so yes, of course they’ve evolved but they’ll evolve much more in the future.
Maybe he would have reacted differently if you threw 'Disciple' at him. I think Albert is kind of stuck in a certain box of music that really appeals to him, but that's ok. It's his preference.🤷♂😉
I can safely say that this is not my favorite tract. It took me a few times listening to warm up to it. I however never once thought it was basic or cliche. This guy was not listening or he has other problems.
Well ive seen boc live and well is just the autority to say what is what, and I think its a respected opinion. He said nothing negative, todays ppl have toxic positivity up the ass and ar offenddded by just anything
It’s a fair comment, Compared to a lot of their songs it’s a simple composition,nothing very technically demanding,they have any number of more challenging tracks in their catalogue.He wasn’t disrespectful,he recognised and praised the band for their obvious talent,he just didn’t think the song itself was anything special,nothing wrong with that.
I suppose his song he wrote at 14 or 15 was never performed live on stage. This song was written and performed by the girls before they were all in high school.
The comments are going wild :) I'm personally with Albert here and if people want to misunderstand him that's fine I guess. The song is neither lyrically nor musically very complex but that doesn't mean that the playing is bad or that it isn't an extremely unique effort for how old they were when they wrote the piece! It also doesn't mean that the song is bad - even when you look at classical masterpieces it's often the simple music that sticks with people the longest, the same goes for a lot of early rock/metal. So it's just a matter of taste and affection.
Plus I'm pretty sure this was shown to Albert straight after a Nightwish live performance, so they are kind of at opposite ends of the scale. I like Nightwish but i don't listen to their stuff very often in my daily life, but The Warning I can sit and listen a whole album with no problem. I also decided to go see the warning live when they were in the UK, but didn't feel the need to go see Nightwish when they were here (not that I wouldn't, I just was compelled to go watch the warning). Its all about personal taste. I mean Bob Dylan and Johnny cash weren't exactly known for their technical prowess and they sold a few records between them.
Yes. Context is everything, the man doesn't know how young the band was when they composed this. I enjoy the song but I suspect they will do more complex, ambitious material in the future simply because you live and learn, and you grow in musicianship and creativity with life experiences. It's very cool that he thinks the band is great!
“The comments are going wild” well I see people like to blow things out of proportion. I think you’re making the comments sound a lot worse than they are.
I don’t care about what he said… you know why? who’s he ? Who is BOC? The girls are much better musicians and much better band…. Nobody cares about him or his band nowadays….. sorry whoever likes his band but he should be more respectful and humble….
The song was kind of basic and cliche? ... Oh dear. What a bad "analyse" ... This is the prolog to queen of the murder scene - every little note, every word of the lyrics, every keychange every voice harmony has it's meaning. Jump into that album, but be prepared...
Since I did this I've totally gotten into this group. They are really terrific..
AB! One of the very Best! BOC!
The Dictators! Imaginos! Be well.
Putting things in perspective of age, Paulina, the drummer and singer here, started writing music for the album Queen Of The Murder Scene, which this song, Dust To Dust is on, in her years in middle school, which when it was actually released, she was 16 years old. Which makes her older sister, Daniela 18, and her younger sister, Alejandra 13. So, this is the level they were at in those years. That in itself is pretty impressive.
Yeah, it take a the wind out of the sails of the complaint i’ve read elsewhere that “these lyrics sound like an angsty middle-school girl’s diary.” Of course they do, but, dang, those hooks and beats! Turn it up!
I look forward to them rocking the future.
@@jrrarglblarg9241 Yes, we've got many years ahead to enjoy this great band and watch them grow even more! Lucky us.
@@jrrarglblarg9241 Yep. It _was_ "an angsty middle-school girl" who crafted the whole thing. Well, _girls_ , plural. Pau's ideas fleshed out with her sisters... but still incredible work for a bunch of kids. There was a photo of Pau's notebook floating around a few years ago, that apparently dated to when she was 12, where she jotted down "Red Hands Never Fade" as an idea for a song and this seems to be the beginning seed of the whole concept album. From a _twelve year old_ . Think about that for a moment...
@@MrJest2 Their youth plus the potential lifespan of a professional rock act as demonstrated by recent tours of new material by Metallica, Scorpions, Iron Maiden and Def Leppard is one of my favorite things about them. They’ll still be rocking when I’m a hundred and seven.
My other fave thing about The Warning is all the kids inspired by them. YT offers me a lot of small-subscriber musicians and a surprising number of 9 to 14 year old girls are doing Warning covers in basement and garage studios, and starting to write their own songs. 😃👍 Rock will outlive me!
@@jrrarglblarg9241The Warning created a monster. What should we call it? Badass Girlz Rock?
This channel is a great supporter of The Warning and music in general. Buying his book to support him too, he deserves it, I bet the stories in there will be fun. Rock on!
I do own a copy of Joel's book, and it's a darn good read.
Yes indeed!! Great book!
This is where I disagree with a lot of musician that react on TH-cam, being technically knowledgeable they tend to put the emphasis more on how complex the playing is, but to me after 40 years of listening of all kinds of music styles, I have come to the conclusion that more often than not, less is more, complexity for its own sake is should not be a goal, if it does not add to the song, it is not necessary, for the dynamics, the intent, the subtle bends and slides, this adds way more to the performance.
The main thing that makes TW so popular and is propelling them to superstardom is that, not only are they good at what they do, THEY ARE ENTERTAINING. Three beautiful girls, easy on the eyes, but they never ever sell themselves as sex objects, playing as they always do in clothes they could wear to the mall.
Thanks for the reaction Joel, and while every song may not be for every person he did light up watching Pau play/sing, thanks for supporting these ladies.🤘🎸🔥
When he somewhat described what he meant by basic, I was like “Oh! Yeah, complex instrumentals aren’t really where The Warning members spend their efforts,”though I assume they are capable of much more complex playing.
Hey, even though he wasn't completely into the song, I still give him props for recognizing the band as being great. Albert is a member of one of my favorite groups back in the day. So Bravo! Thanks Joel!
He did enjoy the band at least, its a good thing❤
Blue Cult to Albert✨!
The Warning is passion ♥♥♥!
The Warning is hope 🔥🔥🔥!
The Warning is life 🌀🌀🌀!
I think it’s important to note that he said all kinds of very nice things. Those of you who tend to expect everyone to immediately start gushing with overwhelming praise should take a deep breath and accept the positive rather than dwell on anything that you perceive as mildly negative.
Also? Simple isn’t necessarily bad. AC/DC is very simple…but they play that simple music brilliantly, and they reach people. Just as TW does.
I love this song. Does that make me simple and cliche? Don't answer that! 😊
Albert was a lot younger when I saw BÖC in concert in the early 70s... but then so was I!
A song doesn't have to be super complex or shreddy on guitar to be a great song that stays in your head on repeat. A lot of the best songs in the history of music are basic. I dont think he knows that QOTMS is a concept album that tells a story, and a really good one, that was written by teenagers. I listened to BOC back in the days and liked a lot of their songs, but there were quite a bit I didnt care for. I still haven't come across a TW song I don't like, and I've heard their whole catalog. But that's cool. Everyone has their own taste in music. Thanks for supporting and spreading the word on TW⚡️ Joel.
respect for him
an experienced man giving his opinion
For the people in the comments section ripping on Albert's reaction of The Warning's song "Dust to Dust" performed live, thinking he didn't like the band or was being negative, take the blooming cotton out of your ear holes. He said the band was great. He said Paulina was great. He loved the performance. He just didn't care for the song itself. If you asked 1000 fans to name their top 5 The Warning songs and top 5 least favorite The Warning songs, not all 1000 of the Warning Army would agree.
Most people mainly took issue with him dismissing the song as simple and cliche, not the fact he didn’t like it.
It’s one thing to state it wasn’t to his taste, but to say it was simple and cliche is a bit much. Specially from one artist to another.
@@andgar923 I get that, but fans have to realize that how they react to music is different to seasoned musicians and people in the music industry in general. When it comes to music, painting, film, photography... art in general..., one's peers are often the most harshest of critics, whether that criticism is fair or not. If a person likes a song regardless of how simple or complex it is from a music theory perspective, then it really shouldn't matter whether or not someone else agrees with them or not. I get that we all want people to like what we like, but while one can find like minded person's, not everbody is going to agree or like the same thing. That is part of the reason there are so many types, so many genres of music. When it comes to Albert's comments about "Dust to Dust," I don't know him personally, only through his music with Blue Oyster Cult from the 70s and early 80s; so, I have no idea what he meant by "simple and cliche" after praising The Warning's performance and especially gushing over Paulina. We'll just have to agree to disagree that his comment was a "bit much."
@@bobmiller6870 I agree artists view work differently. But artists are generally more respectful towards each other even if they're correct. It's professional etiquette and respect.
Yeah he liked Pau, but at the same time dismissed the song ignoring that they too have "simple and cliche" tracks.
I went through some of their catalog after watching this. And yes they were good, but he wasn't as good as Pau, the bassist wasn't as good as Ale, the guitarist shredded more but none could sing as well as any of the 3. Their lyrics were dull and uninspiring for the vast majority of the time.
While perhaps not simple, they too were filled with cliches and followed contemporary standards of the era.
I still like them, hell... I actually like them even more going back and revisiting more of their work. But his comment was classless regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with his comment.
BÖC was one of my favorite bands in the mid 70s. I was a bit surprised that Albert thought the song was simple and cliche. I mean The Reaper is the most famous of their songs (and a truly fantastic song) and honestly not so much more elaborated that many of TW songs. I would put TW song writing skills and production level on the same level as BÖC's. Maybe from a musician perspective BÖC are/were slight more advanced. But he liked the group so we take that
Agree. I would put The Warning's dark themes and heavy guitar riffs as being right up there with The BOC. I love the Warning. But you can't touch Buck Dharma . Rock and Roll, people !
Maybe that’s what makes him think is cliché as it is too similar to their own songs.
Albert didn't write Reaper anyways. He's always been a bit pretentious.
Can't please them all, but thanks for trying Joel! 🤘 Albert ever sing as a drummer himself? I honestly can't remember, it's been so long since I heard any of their material.
I think it's time for you to go see these ladies live in concert. They will be playing just south of you in Tijuana on their Mexican leg of the Error World tour. If you really feel up to it, their biggest headlining gig yet is at the Pepsi center in CDMX. Over twice as big as this Teatro Metro series. Pretty sure they will be releasing new singles on this leg. Also the push to release ALL of the Teatro songs.
Albert was probably the worst of all the band (and they all sang). I know he's got a lot of fans, but I never cared for his vocals. And honestly, it's a bit funny him talking about it being basic, because his rerecorded Imaginos project has some really simplistic vocal melodies.
Great reaction
Should have told him they wrote this “cliche” rock song when they were the same age and even younger than him as part of a concept album.
I think that's why he asked him how old he was when he wrote his first song. I think he knew it would have felt like a one-up to mention their ages after he asked the question though. Haha!
@@TikiBirdTracy totally agree. Joel did well.
Now I just keep thinking of Will Ferrel and Christopher Walken, “I need more cowbell!”
I grew up on Blue Oyster Cult. Great guest!
Excellent my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joel, I always love when you introduce your friends to new artists. I grew up with Blue Oyster Cult playing across the street from my home when they were at college at Stony Brook University. I was too interested in playing sports with my friends but could hear when Blue Oyster Cult was playing an outdoor concert. By the time I was in high school, I became a fan of the group.
Joel, cool that you're spreading the word. Interesting reaction from Albert. Okay, the song doesn't hit the spot for him, but hey everyone's different. But it's cool that he rates TW highly, and it's neat getting a drummer's reaction to Pau. And while I gather a drummer singing lead isn't unique, it isn't commonplace and Pau is pretty darn awesome at it.
In 1978 I went to Day on the Green #5 concert in Oakland Ca and BOC was one of 4 groups who played. (Nugent, Journey, Cheap Trick}, all were fun to watch but I dare say none were superband status. Godzilla, Burnin' for You etc. are all simple songs but catchy.
Glad he likes the band and the drummer, I never really liked blue oyster cult, but..they seemed to be fair artists. The grimm reaper song is kinda catchy, but nothing to die for, I know there's other songs I have heard of them but I can not even remember. I hope his album gets any attention. Cheers
@@leekovalskyj9218 I will say like he did meh, average, they get an e for effort. It's past their bed time anyway
Hey Joel! You should have told him that they wrote this song when they were 18, 16 and 13 years old. Actually 13 year old Ale is the one who came up with the bassline to build the song around. Maybe he would have been more impressed if you told him an 8th grader wrote it! hahaha
Choke got me to Google TW but 2nd song (Dust 2 Dust) sent me down hours of listening to DPA
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One of my go to band is Blue Oyster colt but but I think I think the Warning does have some colt influence ! I see the Girls influenced by all the older bands these ladies have done their Homework I'm sure they got the Crowd! Flow of music in their sets just awesome
The man knows talent when he sees it. He is a drummer so his focus was on Pau mostly.He wasn’t a fan of the song but it appears that he appreciated the bands talent.
Many BOC songs were also simple and straightforward, like Godzilla, Tattoo Vampire or Burnin' for you. Absolute bangers, although I would compare "Dust to Dust" more with "Don't fear the reaper" (thematically and mood wise)
Mr. Bouchard is a true legend and I'm glad he's doing well.
Hey Joel, can you have Buck Dharma too? I think he has a lot in common with Paulina (some geniuses come in small packages, it seems)
Show him Blooming from Band-Maid. (I wish I had gone to see The Warning when they were here in Indy last week....damnit!)
Love blue oyster cult, has a few ICONIC songs, the complete body of work of the Warning at their current age and at the age they started writing is very impressive to me personally, it will be interesting when it’s all said and done, so many instant classics already
🤘⚠️buena opinión! Se vale !! Gran músico! Se sorprendió con Pau!!!
Le gusto!!
Súper power trio 🤘 si señor!!!
I think what I like about The Warning is their catchy, “simple” rhythm in this song. However the way they trade off the lead vocals and layer the harmonies is far from simple. Love the way this songs starts slow and soft and ends fast and hard.
Great concept you have going here. Keep up the good work
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Interesting reaction; I don't understand the complexity = a good song, but maybe its just a matter of taste/preference. If complexity = good song then we're just listening to Rush, Tool, a few other bands? That's a rhetorical question --- folks can listen/not listen to whatever they want of course.
BOC wouldn't want to follow TW anymore, that's a sure bet. They'd be the opener. Thanks, Joel. (Can't believe they never played Mexico!!!)
Mexico is not just mariachi music.
@@mambofflores5902 If it were, Ale would be playing the tuba!
@@iNsTaNtpUdDiNhEaD Not the harp?
Indeed. The harp is not that uncommon in mariachi bands.
I'm a bourbon guy and thanks for the suggestion! I'll try a bottle. If I may make a suggestion of my local bourbon, please check out Hidden Still Spirits from Hershey, PA. The David E line of bourbon is is excellent. The David E red is my favorite and it's only 32 bucks a bottle
I had tickets to Blue Oyster Cult in the late 80’s. But there was a snow storm and concert was cancelled. I really like B.O.C.
Hay que respetar las opiniones y gustos de cada quien. Finalmente el expresó que le gustó la banda, que es un buen grupo. Y sólo con una sola escucha de una sola canción. No sería nada raro que si las siguiera escuchando terminarían por encantarle. Viva The Warning! Viva TWA!
Los mejores y mas creativos 8 grupos de rock hasta el 2023 ,1-Let Zeppelin 2-The Beatles 3- Blak Sabbath 4-Pink Floyd 5-Deep Purple 6-Iron Maiden 7- Rush 8- The Warning puro rock de calidad
The song "dust to dust" is the prelude to one of the greatest concept album ever written ! The really doesn't make sence by itself so you pretty much need to listen to the album and the songs in order as the music and lyrics tell a story..the last song on the album
"The end" not only completes the story but actually you understand why the album starts with dust to dust and brings the story full circle.
The song by itself is just avg. The concept of the album and the story it tells is what make thus sing brilliant and great , same with other songs off the queen of the murder scene album. They are good songs by themselves but the lyrics don't make sense unless you apply them to the story being told in the album
Context would have persuaded him. First time I heard Dust to Dust i had mixed feelings too. But like all songs on QOTMS, all songs should be heard in order; it's a concept album telling a very dark story written and arranged by then teenagers. I'm still captivated by this album even after two years of listening to it.
I agree, Knowing their backstory makes them way more impressive. I been following them before any of them were adults (not in a creepy way LOL). Off topic, BOC has never been my cup of tea.
That was an interesting reaction. I thought he would like the song a bit more. He, at least, enjoyed the band, and especially Pau. Makes sense. 'Dust to Dust' was the first Warning song I heard, so I'm a little biased towards. Regardless, I appreciate his honesty. I'm curious to see what else you have in store for him.
I can guarantee you Albert *NEVER EVER* read about The Warning in Rolling Stone unless that magazine is printed in Español.
Read some of these comments & like usual. Didn't listen to well. Albert didn't care for the song Dust to Dust but like the band. Especially a singing drummer. Albert is *MORE* of an *Evolve* or *Disciple* type guy.
Joel, next time Albert comes on. Play him a song written by a 13 year old girl. Song, of course, is from The Warning called *Black Holes* (video from The Dakota Bar in Mexico).
Yeah. Albert is stuck in the past. But heck. Still be fun listening to his 🐃💩 just hanging around with tunes playing.
The Warning actually did appear in the U.S. edition of Rolling Stone back in 2022. They were featured & interviewed in an article about the Metallica Blacklist album.
Their own original material has never been featured, however…so you’re half right.
Albert, Albert, Albert! Albert needs exposure to a few more Warning songs and a bit more of their back story, and I'm sure he be joining The Warning Army! He'll, Albert, these girls were making rock and roll songs at an earlier age than you! By the way, I Love Blue Oyster Cult!!
Albert was 20 when he joined his first band (soft white underbelly) which morfed into BOC . . . . At that age the girls had already put out an EP and a cpl of albums . . . Shame he wasnt told that it was part of the concept album QMS that Pau wrote at an early age (15)ish ?? . And that they were sisters . . Glad he liked the band . . .
They wrote at an early age
@@rogerreed905 I mean the three of them wrote the album at an early age
@@rogerreed905 Well Dany wrote Crimson Queen so your comment is wrong. Please don't give Pau more credit then necessary.
@@rogerreed905absolutely incorrect. Yes, Pau comes up with concepts but, except for some very early songs and a few exceptions, they write everything together including lyrics.
@@rogerreed905 I mean if you did not know that CQ was 100% done by Dany alone then i'm not sure you are an authority on their creative process.
Yes Pau tends to have the most ideas that end up being completed songs that get recorded, but they all have ideas that become completed songs.
The state of the song that Pau presents or any of them present to the rest of the band is not always the same, sometimes it's just an idea, sometimes there are some lyrics, sometimes it's a melody, sometimes a bit of all.
The thing that is important to understand is when the 3 start working on it together the song takes on a new life and some or most of what Pau presented might get changed. Pau has stated that at first she had a hard time dealing with the fact that Dany and Ale wanted to change what she presented to them. In time she came to realize that once the 3 started working on it it became their song and no longer just hers and that the songs would have been different or never completed without the help of her sisters.
Just to name a few songs from QOTMS that were not started by Pau. Ale started Dust to Dust, Dany started Qotms, Dany wrote QC alone, Ugh/the sacrifice/the one all came from elements not used on Ugh, a song they had a hard time working on and completing together. there are others in the album but those are the few that come to mind without more research. The idea for the album might of come from Pau but the finished product is a result of the 3 of them together.
So when you say "Ale and Dany didnt have much to do with the writing of the album" and you also say"Im going by what i hear them say" they have never stated that Ale and Dany didn't do much, they actually say the opposite of that. You are basically stating what you think and not what they have told us.
It's par for the coarse that Pau fans or fans that just don't know any better are always trying to give Pau full credit for the creative process and totally dismissing Ale and Dany's contribution. that is opposite of what the band has always said.
Dust to Dust was the first TW song I heard besides the enter sandman covers way back when. they fell off my radar. I wasn't blown away at the time with their cover with Cara but I did like it. I was amazed by them when they did it as kids. I wouldn't say hearing Dust to Dust hooked me at first either. It was ok but I really liked Pau. She was fierce and she stuck with me. Over the next few days I was thinking about that song by those 3 girls and especially their badass drummer. then, it popped up again. This time I listened closer and noticed "the guitar player" looked really fkn familiar there. It was the Lunario version. Then it dawned on me I had seen them before somewhere. I started looking up their songs and fell down the rabbit hole. Dust to Dust is my favorite song. I still love Pau and her fierceness. I love Dani and Ale too but Pau is what hooked me. So don't take it personally and maybe it will grow on him. I love classic rock but BoC isn't my cup of tea. The thing is that is ok because if everyone loved the same thing then the world would fkn suck.
The best and most creative 8 rock groups until 2023, 1-Let Zeppelin 2-The Beatles 3- Blak Sabbath 4-Pink Floyd 5-Deep Purple 6-Iron Maiden 7- Rush 8- The Warning pure quality rock
"I love it! Didnt care for the song though....."🤦
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It's his opinion. We're all entitled to that. I live Band-Maid and if he didn't like them if he heard them, that's fine.
I saw some videos of BOC, honestly I disagree when he says simple TW's song, BOC'S old riffs are generally are simple too, however BOC's drummer fills are very good at that age
And she's not the lead singer!
Well, that’s an “old” song from The Warning (for a band their age 5 years ago is a lot), and they most have been around 13 (Ale, the bassist), 15 (Pau, the drummer) and 18 (Dany, the guitarist), and of course it’s not that complex, specially next to the music they’re doing now, when they are now all of them not children any more. Still very young but already adults, and yes, of course they’ve evolved from the times they wrote this song and were still not very popular, still a totally independent band to nowadays they’re a band signed by a big label, with much more experience, opening concerts for big rock bands (Foo Fighters, Guns N’ Roses, Muse), going on tour next to bands like Halestorm, The Pretty Reckless and Three Days Grace, and yes, already going on tour not just to North and South America, but also to Europe (pulled by Muse to open more shows, not just those at Mexico, then having their own shows at several countries of the old continent); they’re a very young (because of their age, although they have been playing for ten years), so yes, of course they’ve evolved but they’ll evolve much more in the future.
Maybe he would have reacted differently if you threw 'Disciple' at him. I think Albert is kind of stuck in a certain box of music that really appeals to him, but that's ok. It's his preference.🤷♂😉
I was also thinking Disciple” would had been a better fit for this presentation.
@@glenallencox966 Especially the music video version!😄 That's gotta be one of their best video productions ever! (Probably the most expensive too)😲
The song was basic and cliche? Seriously? Um No, it wasn't.
There are BOC songs simpler than that. Surprisingly he as a drummer didn't appreciate such a challenging drum line as Dust to Dust’s
His error was from the 60s-70s. This style is decades after his generation.
I can safely say that this is not my favorite tract. It took me a few times listening to warm up to it. I however never once thought it was basic or cliche. This guy was not listening or he has other problems.
Well ive seen boc live and well is just the autority to say what is what, and I think its a respected opinion. He said nothing negative, todays ppl have toxic positivity up the ass and ar offenddded by just anything
It’s a fair comment, Compared to a lot of their songs it’s a simple composition,nothing very technically demanding,they have any number of more challenging tracks in their catalogue.He wasn’t disrespectful,he recognised and praised the band for their obvious talent,he just didn’t think the song itself was anything special,nothing wrong with that.
I suppose his song he wrote at 14 or 15 was never performed live on stage. This song was written and performed by the girls before they were all in high school.
The comments are going wild :) I'm personally with Albert here and if people want to misunderstand him that's fine I guess. The song is neither lyrically nor musically very complex but that doesn't mean that the playing is bad or that it isn't an extremely unique effort for how old they were when they wrote the piece!
It also doesn't mean that the song is bad - even when you look at classical masterpieces it's often the simple music that sticks with people the longest, the same goes for a lot of early rock/metal. So it's just a matter of taste and affection.
Plus I'm pretty sure this was shown to Albert straight after a Nightwish live performance, so they are kind of at opposite ends of the scale. I like Nightwish but i don't listen to their stuff very often in my daily life, but The Warning I can sit and listen a whole album with no problem. I also decided to go see the warning live when they were in the UK, but didn't feel the need to go see Nightwish when they were here (not that I wouldn't, I just was compelled to go watch the warning). Its all about personal taste. I mean Bob Dylan and Johnny cash weren't exactly known for their technical prowess and they sold a few records between them.
Yes. Context is everything, the man doesn't know how young the band was when they composed this. I enjoy the song but I suspect they will do more complex, ambitious material in the future simply because you live and learn, and you grow in musicianship and creativity with life experiences. It's very cool that he thinks the band is great!
You said it better than I just did 😂. Thank you. There’s nothing wrong with simplicity if it’s good.
“The comments are going wild” well I see people like to blow things out of proportion. I think you’re making the comments sound a lot worse than they are.
I don’t think anyone under 50 reads rolling stone anymore
next play CHOKE, DISCIPLE, QUEEN OF THE MURDER OF THE MURDER SCENE or ANAMOSITY and see if he likes them any better
Maybe he would have preferred "More" since it has more cowbell. (He's probably sick of the reference by now, though)
You should have mentioned to him this song was written by an 8th grader.
Come on, surely your going to introduce him to Akane, Haruna and Tamu.
Dust To Dust is better than anything BOC ever put out. And BOC had a 40 year headstart!
Does he even has to mention that he doesn’t like the song.
Some of these guys have had their time of creativity 40 years in the past and don't have the ears to evaluate anything new.
What a silly thing to say
Useless and probably not very accurate comment, and I don’t even like BOC.
@nahadoth2087 it's a part of all fandoms unfortunately. It is just on display more in social media formats.
A basic song that sounds great beats a great song that sounds sh*t, in my books.
Rollingstone has fallen FAR from what it used to be. It is just more of the same lame political BS we see everywhere.
Genesis?... Yes?...
No, The Warning ;)
I don’t care about what he said… you know why? who’s he ? Who is BOC? The girls are much better musicians and much better band…. Nobody cares about him or his band nowadays….. sorry whoever likes his band but he should be more respectful and humble….
Basic abd cliche? Grfoh!
Well, I DID like Blue Oyster Cult. 🤣
Wrong song to show the versatility of the band. You should have gone with Queen of the Murder Scene or Desciple .......oh well.
The song was kind of basic and cliche? ... Oh dear. What a bad "analyse" ... This is the prolog to queen of the murder scene - every little note, every word of the lyrics, every keychange every voice harmony has it's meaning. Jump into that album, but be prepared...
I just don't get it. Odd voice to me and the musicians are average at best in my opinion.
Well to be honest BLue oyster cult isn’t that good!
Sorry but he should be in a retirement home.
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