I never watched anything from Logan Paul, only heard of his controversies and fights etc. But he handled that situation extremely well, he legit tried to help the guy recover his pitch like 3 times and gave him feedback when it was clear he didn't prepare anything and what's his next steps should be. And he didn't have to do any of that, could easily say security he has no time for that.
@@TealeafRogers Most fans of influencer's struggle to discern the character and brand from person so the guy walked in there expecting the character but got the business and regardless of anything he did or does, the Pauls have moves and he's been doing it a long time.
I get 385 outreaches a month and I'm not even a content creator... They keep trying to get a hold of me to discuss my car's extended warranty. For real though, great video on this. Logan did nothing wrong. Honestly, the guy is lucky as hell he even listened to him and didn't have security drag him off. He could've totally gotten a job if he came to him with a proper pitch.
Even though this isn't an "industry statistics" video, I think this is a really valuable video because of the real world implications. Your videos always bring value to my subscription box.
Following the great breakdown of the clip, I winced when Devin, a practiced brand expert misattributed that motto to LeBron or Jordan. I had to make sure someone corrected it in the comments. Thanks. Maybe it is a point that Hockey has lost it's market share in the role model category, but damn...that's like a political science major forgetting who said "The only thing to fear is, fear itself."
Devin just wanted to say thank you. About a year an a bit ago I stumbled on your videos about streaming and content. At that time I was averaging between 5-7 people and had no direction. Your videos and streams really changed my outlook on how to be successful. I started to really work on my content and now stream to 30-50+ people, have a successful tiktok as well as so much more. Thank you for all this incredible guidance you give us.
this guy is 22 with a 100k a year job. he's never been told no. he went there thinking obviously logan paul is gonna give him a shot, why wouldnt he. Its him.
I generally can't stand Logan Paul but it's unquestionable that he not only handled this situation incredibly well, but also gave this guy the best possible chance he could. I have to assume this kid has never really had to work for anything in his life. Making 100K at 22 you've either done something incredible or you've been given a reason to think you need to know someone big to get big. And to be so willing to give up that kind of income they clearly have no understanding of the value of that money.
Lying nearly off the bat will shoot a negative vibe to anyone right away. Not a smartly made move. However as always learned a lot from a nice quick video. Awesome work and I am actually curious as to what Logan thinks of what Devin says in this video. Would be interesting to see his thoughts.
I never thought Id see the day where a young man working for $100k a year wouldn't make someone happy, Living a Life of Quiet Desperation must be difficult when you keep imaging yourself somewhere else.
Unfortunately in some areas of the country (due to inflation and the value of the dollar decreasing) 100K might not be a lot after taxes. HOWEVER. Both at his age and in Ohio that is a GOOD income. The people who have this money void though are the people who become uber wealthy.
The point is to go for the win-win scenario: like the example Devin gave - he wanted mentorship, in return he wanted to drive more business to Twitch. Both sides gained something. In comparisson, the guy from the video only wanted to take and provide little to no value.
It is surreal to find out that you had a mentoring relationship with Justin. However, learning about Justin through his content i can now see the similarities in your world views. You and Justin are both great inspirations to me as persons and leaders. I have learned a lot about how to manage my staff through your content. Thanks once again Devin. I hope one day i can figure out a way to provive value back to you like you have to me.
like many others I also have to say - these videos are so educational to me as a small content creator in their own bubble I usually don't have time for 20-30-40 minute videos, but there is no bullshit white noise in this, it's always valuable!
PLEASE more videos like this! I feel a lot of starter creators don’t know they’re shootings themselves in the foot by thinking “oh just make content” and not understand you need to have some value to those around to make it in this market
As an MBA who’s been through countless successful and unsuccessful interviews, and received offers for every one of my jobs by selling the value I can give to that company, and who’s found mentors in and presented in front of every category of C-Level Executives, I’d like to say that every word of this video is gold. I’ve recently worked to become a small creator building a business with multiple revenue streams, and the two most important things I’m bringing from my MBA knowledge, both of which Devin mentions in this video are: 1) Identify the value you can provide (in ANYTHING you are putting out into the world). 2) Practice properly communicating that value.
This is the most REAL thing that I've ever seen from Logan. This is the real world side of content creation. When you are looking to work with a creator that is the size of Logan, you're applying for a job at a company just like if you were applying for a corporate level job at Walmart. You gotta be ready to show that CEO what you can do. It's not just enough to shoot your shot. You gotta practice that shot and make sure you're putting your best foot forward.
This video is slightly longer and Logan gives a few more tips that are helpful. I feel he handled this situation perfectly imo, and i'm not the dudes biggest fan haha
I think Devin's evaluation of this specific situation is spot on. It really seems like Logan Paul gave this guy several opportunities to present his case, and allowed him to recover from some self inflicted errors, at least twice to make his case.
When you are reminded of the advice you give your junior staff at work in a TH-cam video. Great advice here Devin, for those in your 20s, you have time now! When you have family, and other responsibilities, you don’t get much time for yourself, so skill up while you can!
Devin, these last few videos you’ve been doing have been sooooo so good. It’s a fantastic thing that you’ve focused on TH-cam more rather than split with twitch. Keep them coming, I’m eager to learn 😁
Great video, great breakdown. I love elevator pitches and presenting in high level format. Have to do this a lot for improving internal operational procedures.
This was great advice. I did collections out of college and then sales and now web dev. I would do it all again too. Aside:These focused vods are such higher quality than the live streams.
Love this kind of content. I have so much to learn about navigating this world, but I'm doing my best to try and figure out what sort of value I can provide. I'm able to instantly empathize with people, understanding their backgrounds, knowing what kind of tendencies they have. I know how to analyze data and make predicitons based on behavior. On top of that I have a burning drive to constantly improve whatever it is that I'm working on. For some reason I've never been able to turn this into anything actionable, but I can't give up on myself. I face unique challenges but I don't think my chances at living a full life are over just because I happen to have some difficulties. The most important thing to me is what you said, that absolutely nobody will ever be able to do it for me. I have taken ownership over my lack of value so that I can focus on what I can control rather than wait for some magical fix to my life. That being said, I am autistic and my unique challenges require me to seek SSI, now with the help of a lawyer. I don't want the rest of my life to be collecting the bare minimum from a permanent disability, however, and I want to build something for myself. I do believe I provide value, but it's difficult for me to know what that value is, but I will keep trying my best to improve and maybe one day I'll be that woman answering all those emails. I swallow my pride and I face my defecits head on. I study and analyze and try to create insights and predictions based on patterns in the data. There's a quote I heard in a webinar about business in the internet age. "The number one skill today is mastering complex systems and creating new value out of information." I don't think there's anything I do better than those specific things, and I just think I need to figure out how to focus it and make it work for me.
im sorry im only at 1:20 and this dude is crying that he is 22 and only makes 100K a year?? "I wanna act" then go act in a student film or something you clearly have the income to take time off and go act. holy jesus wow
agree with this all tbh. i think one thing that would help people that are getting approached would be an elevator "response". that way they don't go around sounding shallow cos they're caught at a wrong time, or are unprepared for the complexity/depth of the ask they're required to immediately respond to.
This was very insightful, as someone that can't land a job as a programmer because I thought I deserve a shot and never really put in the work in alone studying because "I'll learn it there, that's what an internship is for!", it was really eye opening, I could see myself on that dude talking to a recruiter. Please Devin, more videos like this.
The interview grind for tech jobs is real. Keep working at it. If you actively track the amount of hours you spend you'll see it's way less than you expect. Every individual I know that has landed a job at a top tech company relatively smoothly put in 100+ hours a month for 6+ months. If you don't do that your chances are practically zero. Just the unfortunate reality.
When Steve Jobs first came back to Apple in the late 90's, employees were afraid to get in the elevator with him for that exact reason Devin gave about the "elevator pitch" Steve would ask "What do you do? and how does that benifit Apple" You had the max of 4 floors to give him an answer, but given the 4th the floor was the executive floor you really only had 3. If you gave him an answer he didn't like, he would fire you on the spot. Rumors I heard from friends, if you were in marketing your were pretty much fired, if you were an engineer you had better odds.
This is a great video for anyone, not just media creators. Especially the points about networking, respecting time, and bringing value. It's surprising how many people ignore those crucially important ideas when talking to big- and small-time creators.
This reminds me of the guy that got Jude Law to film a scene for his own project. He didn’t just ask him, he had the entire rest of the film ready to get published even if he didn’t accept, the script ready, he only asked for like 10s of screen time… He was not just shooting a shot with nothing prepared, he did everything he could to show he came organised and Jude only had the acting part to provide
one word i didn't hear this entire video is entitlement, but i think its a one word summary of the situation going on and the mentality. if you cant provide value you cant expect to be given the time of day by someone who values their time, but people do. theres some insane thought process where people assume that because successful people are successful, they can leach some of that success and it will be ok. that is not how the world works and no one owes you anything. i dislike logan paul for a number of reasons, but im impressed by how he handled this situation. he even gave the guy in the video a chance and asked him the right leading questions, who then proceeded to fumble and drop the ball. im honestly surprised how open logan was to the idea for the guy to give him SOMETHING to work with. and even when logan got nothing, he still proceeded to give the guy direction. props. great video devin.
thank you for explaining copywriting devin! i'm at a stage in my life where i feel that learning and utilizing copywriting would be beneficial to me. and any other aspiring entrepreneurs should learn more about copywriting as well
Don't care about Logan Paul or some dude quitting his job making 100k a year, but Devin, I'm so glad I stayed for the whole video. Fantastic insight and advice for entrepreneurs and business owners.
Great talk. I very much feel this. I get this on a much, much smaller scale than you, Devin, but it always breaks down to "What value do they offer?' and "What's the opportunity cost?" Sometimes they're skilled and I can keep them on my radar for future opportunities. But skilled or not, it almost always ends with me encouraging them to be entrepreneurial. 'Create value and leverage for yourself, and just be persistent. That's when opportunities come.'
after years of failing and succeeding with pitches in the film biz... this was VERY spot on. That guy had no idea what he was doing. Logan 100% in the right. Devin 1000% in the right. This vid is one of the most inspirational though. Been a long time since i've seen such a fire, unique talk. You always got the juice Devin.
Another banger video. As someone that has to cold call a lot for my work, the part about establishing familiarity and providing value resonates so much.
Amazing video thanks Devin! I was just like that dude in my early 20s and did the exact same thing when I tried to get a job from an influencer. I'm in sales now and became somewhat successful at it and now it's employers asking me to come over.
Hey, loved the video. Completely confirms something I've believed for a while now. Also great motivation to get better at video editing and looking into how to "elevator pitch" myself. Love these sort of life advice/self improvement videos. Would love to see one thats more in depth on how to structure a pitch like this. Keep up the great content :)
These videos are great Devin, ive been loosely following you and your friend group for a while now but i didnt know you had so much good educational content on your youtube!
Thanks Devin for this video. It's something I have much trouble explaining to people when they ask questions about, and you put it into words perfectly. I had no idea so many other people actually thought that they were hot shots, and that they were "a connection away" from being a star (always thought it was a weird ego trip some were on). Bring. Value.
This is a great video lots of really useful information. Ngl I have also thought about shooting my shot on a couple of youtubers I know. Obviously I thought of a pitch before hand on what I could offer them so I wasn’t just asking for a general job. I figured I would ask to intern for them and edit there videos. I could provide them value with well edited videos as well as being able to pick there brains on TH-cam and content creation. This video has really shined a great light on these situations go down, how they should be handled, and the realities on truly being able to provide something of tangible value to these influencers so you’re not just coming off as another dude looking for a hand out.
I think a good Segway from this video would be to talk about the TH-camr "airrack". He went to logan paul (several times) in a simular way, only his pitches and his ability to get into his circle was much more successful.
"I've got the skill, you've got the reach. Let's make something work." With some extra words and flexes in there. That seems like the obvious pitch here.
This is great advice. I love videos like this as it helps me rewire some toxic parts of the brain that society instills on us. There definitely is the pressure to become more and more successful, everything needs to happen so fast too. But the most important part is actually the journey through which you become a well rounded person according to YOUR circumstances. It's a gradual process and takes time, some great deal of luck too if your goal is to become extremely successful. It's easy to get discouraged nowadays, but what's even the point of life if not to keep struggling and surviving?
I love your videos. I’m not a streamer nor TH-camr but your videos really teach me alot of values and mindsets in order to survive in a corporate. Thanks Devin
Sure it's possible he may have been a bit abrasive, but ultimately he was realistic, which is what people like that kid actually need to hear to grow. It's a difference between wanting a handout vs wanting to grow.
I haven't watch the full video yet, But instead of saying I want to get a job, The first thing would be SHOWING what you can do as quickly as possible without sacrificing quality. You're lucky if someone as famous as him evening giving you a single minute of his time.
If you don't even know what you want, how is anyone else suppose to know what you want? Don't make it someone else's responsibility to figure out what you need. A good ask is in present tense and actionable. Make it easy for them.
Im a marketer by day and twitch streamer by night and have enjoyed every video of yours over the last year. Please keep up the momentum with these videos, I enjoy the hell out of them.
first opened the door to Logan after the KSI Impaulsive episode, so on this guy right now. he's so fucking smart and so far removed from the guy he used to be. If you haven't invested any energy into Logan Paul cause of his past, give his podcast a chance. It's far better than you can expect.
I get asked for shout-outs occasionally. I'm not a big channel, so I don't get that many, but every time I go check out what they've got. More often than not, they only have a few videos, and their quality just isn't that good (poor camera work, poor editing, poor content, etc). So I've started telling people this, "If you could get the best shout out ever. Let's say a HUGE creator in your niche did a dedicated video shouting out your channel. And it was the perfect shout-out in every way. BUT, it's the last shout-out you will ever get. Would you want it now?" And there's a pause while they think about it, and the smart ones say, "No, not yet." because now they're thinking about their content and how they don't want that shout-out until their content is fantastic. Which is the point.
Im not a massive fan of logan paul but he was in the right, this dude who just quit his job and basically went to him with nothing and expected logan to give him a job so much entitlement and people someone like logan paul owes them something. like i saind im not a fan of logan but i admire him for his business runs and what he has done but he doesn't owe anything to this guy
The time dynamic makes me think of Shark Tank. I wouldn’t ask for any $ for equity. I’d give up equity just for the value they provide & if their team handled all the paperwork. Any $ a Shark would offer pales in comparison to how valuable their time is & I’d make that obvious off the bat.
Towards the end of the video where you talk about TH-camrs giving the info away for free or possibly paying for services like a Master Class or Udemy, another good place to look could be your public library. My library offers Udemy and Universal Class for free if you have a library card with them. Always good to see what's around you as well.
This is the networking equivalent of YOLOing into BTC at 50k. I’m not crazy about networking for networking’s sake-I’ve found that showing up and doing the work consistently is a more sustainable route to success. Combine sustained effort and growth with a well-crafted and well-timed pitch, and you can open a door that changes your life.
@@iwantedjusttom Most people know this quote from The Office ya but he did say it to the media back in the day. Fun fact: He said it in '83 *before* he went on to win 4 Cups with Edmonton.
As someone who has no connection to this kind of industry and is young and going into uni these videos and steams are always so interesting and informative and the advice is great. Love it. :)
I really enjoyed this video. Interestingly enough, the 2 tips mentioned in the video is a similar approach to how got my current position as a business director. Thank you for making helpful content on TH-cam.
Hey I just wanted to say I have always loved your content and I really appreciate that you've been putting out a lot more stuff lately. Also what I find shocking is that I dislike Logan Paul as a human being but this whole thing, I thought he handled that with some amount of grace. A lot of folks would have just had security drag this dude out of there.
This…. Was spectacular and I hadn’t heard about this prior… but I agree with what you said. In no way am I Logan’s #1 fan but he didn’t do anything wrong. However hearing your perspective really sheds light on the WHY he wasn’t wrong deeper and more meaningful… thanks devin this was one of my faves from you!
that's why i'm always so bothered when people just say "you gotta take the risk!" yeah, taking risk is one thing. but so is gathering information lol only a fool goes into risk unprepared. i'm not saying to take a lukewarm risk, especially if you're still young & have a decent background that can protect you from falling too deep. no, but if you wanna make it, try to find the balance of not investing *all* of your time into "preparing" for the risk while at the same time, gather information beforehand. it really feels like this guy slipped a million dollar life just because he didn't ask himself "so, if logan is interested, what am i going to say" lol then again, because he shared this, he might still find an opportunity & others become the wiser, since this is just the perfect anecdote. PS: Hm, elevator pitch, huh? Guess I gotta work one out. I really like that idea. In fact, it's so simple that I'm bothered by the fact that I haven't done that yet lol
I love that you’ve been putting out content devin…. You’re content is extremely important and valuable…. I’m glad you didn’t see this move from this young guy as idiotic… you understand that it’s important to develop your pitch and provide the most effective use of that time. Thank you my dude!! 🙏🏻
I really find impressive how you're put this kind of content out for free. It was really useful and made me thing about some stuff I'm working on. It was a great video!
Logan has come such a tremendously long way. Say what you will about him, but for someone who started making random vines to TH-cam to becoming a talked about boxer is crazy. Not to mention how much he evolved since his controversial mess from a few years ago
great video and amazing insight. id love to see more videos like this, explaining the small details that not alot of creators fully understand like myself. thanks again!
I have a slightly different take here, I think you need to emphasize that you will make money for the guy you are pitching to and imply that he will lose money by not forming a relationship with you.
I never watched anything from Logan Paul, only heard of his controversies and fights etc. But he handled that situation extremely well, he legit tried to help the guy recover his pitch like 3 times and gave him feedback when it was clear he didn't prepare anything and what's his next steps should be. And he didn't have to do any of that, could easily say security he has no time for that.
@@TealeafRogers Most fans of influencer's struggle to discern the character and brand from person so the guy walked in there expecting the character but got the business and regardless of anything he did or does, the Pauls have moves and he's been doing it a long time.
Take extreme ownership, develop your skills, and focus on providing value
Incredible breakdown and insights, fantastic video
I get 385 outreaches a month and I'm not even a content creator... They keep trying to get a hold of me to discuss my car's extended warranty. For real though, great video on this. Logan did nothing wrong. Honestly, the guy is lucky as hell he even listened to him and didn't have security drag him off. He could've totally gotten a job if he came to him with a proper pitch.
Even though this isn't an "industry statistics" video, I think this is a really valuable video because of the real world implications. Your videos always bring value to my subscription box.
Came here to say this
That's what I really appreciate about Devin's videos, data is his bread and butter but he delivers the real world practical insights too.
It is a Wayne Gretzky quote- "You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take"
Following the great breakdown of the clip, I winced when Devin, a practiced brand expert misattributed that motto to LeBron or Jordan. I had to make sure someone corrected it in the comments. Thanks. Maybe it is a point that Hockey has lost it's market share in the role model category, but damn...that's like a political science major forgetting who said "The only thing to fear is, fear itself."
It's like he didn't even watch The Office.
actually its a michael scott quote
Kinda like one of them basketball guys. :)
Bit O' Wince there
Devin just wanted to say thank you. About a year an a bit ago I stumbled on your videos about streaming and content. At that time I was averaging between 5-7 people and had no direction. Your videos and streams really changed my outlook on how to be successful. I started to really work on my content and now stream to 30-50+ people, have a successful tiktok as well as so much more. Thank you for all this incredible guidance you give us.
this guy is 22 with a 100k a year job. he's never been told no. he went there thinking obviously logan paul is gonna give him a shot, why wouldnt he. Its him.
Idk, typically folks like that exude confidence, or some type of bravado. I didn't pick anything like that up.
I generally can't stand Logan Paul but it's unquestionable that he not only handled this situation incredibly well, but also gave this guy the best possible chance he could.
I have to assume this kid has never really had to work for anything in his life.
Making 100K at 22 you've either done something incredible or you've been given a reason to think you need to know someone big to get big.
And to be so willing to give up that kind of income they clearly have no understanding of the value of that money.
Lying nearly off the bat will shoot a negative vibe to anyone right away. Not a smartly made move. However as always learned a lot from a nice quick video. Awesome work and I am actually curious as to what Logan thinks of what Devin says in this video. Would be interesting to see his thoughts.
I never thought Id see the day where a young man working for $100k a year wouldn't make someone happy, Living a Life of Quiet Desperation must be difficult when you keep imaging yourself somewhere else.
Unfortunately in some areas of the country (due to inflation and the value of the dollar decreasing) 100K might not be a lot after taxes. HOWEVER. Both at his age and in Ohio that is a GOOD income. The people who have this money void though are the people who become uber wealthy.
The point is to go for the win-win scenario: like the example Devin gave - he wanted mentorship, in return he wanted to drive more business to Twitch. Both sides gained something. In comparisson, the guy from the video only wanted to take and provide little to no value.
It is surreal to find out that you had a mentoring relationship with Justin.
However, learning about Justin through his content i can now see the similarities in your world views.
You and Justin are both great inspirations to me as persons and leaders. I have learned a lot about how to manage my staff through your content.
Thanks once again Devin. I hope one day i can figure out a way to provive value back to you like you have to me.
I was really hoping you'd react to this! I was shocked Logan even gave him the time of day. But loved all your info and tips!
like many others I also have to say - these videos are so educational to me as a small content creator in their own bubble
I usually don't have time for 20-30-40 minute videos, but there is no bullshit white noise in this, it's always valuable!
PLEASE more videos like this! I feel a lot of starter creators don’t know they’re shootings themselves in the foot by thinking “oh just make content” and not understand you need to have some value to those around to make it in this market
As an MBA who’s been through countless successful and unsuccessful interviews, and received offers for every one of my jobs by selling the value I can give to that company, and who’s found mentors in and presented in front of every category of C-Level Executives, I’d like to say that every word of this video is gold.
I’ve recently worked to become a small creator building a business with multiple revenue streams, and the two most important things I’m bringing from my MBA knowledge, both of which Devin mentions in this video are: 1) Identify the value you can provide (in ANYTHING you are putting out into the world). 2) Practice properly communicating that value.
This is the most REAL thing that I've ever seen from Logan. This is the real world side of content creation. When you are looking to work with a creator that is the size of Logan, you're applying for a job at a company just like if you were applying for a corporate level job at Walmart. You gotta be ready to show that CEO what you can do. It's not just enough to shoot your shot. You gotta practice that shot and make sure you're putting your best foot forward.
This video is slightly longer and Logan gives a few more tips that are helpful. I feel he handled this situation perfectly imo, and i'm not the dudes biggest fan haha
I think Devin's evaluation of this specific situation is spot on. It really seems like Logan Paul gave this guy several opportunities to present his case, and allowed him to recover from some self inflicted errors, at least twice to make his case.
When you are reminded of the advice you give your junior staff at work in a TH-cam video.
Great advice here Devin, for those in your 20s, you have time now!
When you have family, and other responsibilities, you don’t get much time for yourself, so skill up while you can!
"you miss all the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
- Michael Scott 😅
Devin, these last few videos you’ve been doing have been sooooo so good. It’s a fantastic thing that you’ve focused on TH-cam more rather than split with twitch. Keep them coming, I’m eager to learn 😁
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
- Wayne Gretzky"
- Michael Scott
Damn devin better be expecting a merch pitch from me after this discussion
Great video, great breakdown. I love elevator pitches and presenting in high level format. Have to do this a lot for improving internal operational procedures.
This was great advice. I did collections out of college and then sales and now web dev. I would do it all again too.
Aside:These focused vods are such higher quality than the live streams.
Love this kind of content. I have so much to learn about navigating this world, but I'm doing my best to try and figure out what sort of value I can provide. I'm able to instantly empathize with people, understanding their backgrounds, knowing what kind of tendencies they have. I know how to analyze data and make predicitons based on behavior. On top of that I have a burning drive to constantly improve whatever it is that I'm working on. For some reason I've never been able to turn this into anything actionable, but I can't give up on myself. I face unique challenges but I don't think my chances at living a full life are over just because I happen to have some difficulties. The most important thing to me is what you said, that absolutely nobody will ever be able to do it for me. I have taken ownership over my lack of value so that I can focus on what I can control rather than wait for some magical fix to my life.
That being said, I am autistic and my unique challenges require me to seek SSI, now with the help of a lawyer. I don't want the rest of my life to be collecting the bare minimum from a permanent disability, however, and I want to build something for myself. I do believe I provide value, but it's difficult for me to know what that value is, but I will keep trying my best to improve and maybe one day I'll be that woman answering all those emails. I swallow my pride and I face my defecits head on. I study and analyze and try to create insights and predictions based on patterns in the data. There's a quote I heard in a webinar about business in the internet age. "The number one skill today is mastering complex systems and creating new value out of information." I don't think there's anything I do better than those specific things, and I just think I need to figure out how to focus it and make it work for me.
im sorry im only at 1:20 and this dude is crying that he is 22 and only makes 100K a year?? "I wanna act" then go act in a student film or something you clearly have the income to take time off and go act. holy jesus wow
agree with this all tbh.
i think one thing that would help people that are getting approached would be an elevator "response". that way they don't go around sounding shallow cos they're caught at a wrong time, or are unprepared for the complexity/depth of the ask they're required to immediately respond to.
This was very insightful, as someone that can't land a job as a programmer because I thought I deserve a shot and never really put in the work in alone studying because "I'll learn it there, that's what an internship is for!", it was really eye opening, I could see myself on that dude talking to a recruiter.
Please Devin, more videos like this.
The interview grind for tech jobs is real. Keep working at it. If you actively track the amount of hours you spend you'll see it's way less than you expect. Every individual I know that has landed a job at a top tech company relatively smoothly put in 100+ hours a month for 6+ months. If you don't do that your chances are practically zero. Just the unfortunate reality.
When Steve Jobs first came back to Apple in the late 90's, employees were afraid to get in the elevator with him for that exact reason Devin gave about the "elevator pitch" Steve would ask "What do you do? and how does that benifit Apple" You had the max of 4 floors to give him an answer, but given the 4th the floor was the executive floor you really only had 3. If you gave him an answer he didn't like, he would fire you on the spot. Rumors I heard from friends, if you were in marketing your were pretty much fired, if you were an engineer you had better odds.
I’m not about the signal boost life. I think most people think to themselves and forget the most important part which is to make content. Have fun.
God I wish I could accurately explain to my friends the insane amount of value in these videos.
This is a great video for anyone, not just media creators. Especially the points about networking, respecting time, and bringing value. It's surprising how many people ignore those crucially important ideas when talking to big- and small-time creators.
Love hearing your expert takes on these things. Always nuanced, understanding and interesting
This reminds me of the guy that got Jude Law to film a scene for his own project. He didn’t just ask him, he had the entire rest of the film ready to get published even if he didn’t accept, the script ready, he only asked for like 10s of screen time…
He was not just shooting a shot with nothing prepared, he did everything he could to show he came organised and Jude only had the acting part to provide
one word i didn't hear this entire video is entitlement, but i think its a one word summary of the situation going on and the mentality. if you cant provide value you cant expect to be given the time of day by someone who values their time, but people do. theres some insane thought process where people assume that because successful people are successful, they can leach some of that success and it will be ok. that is not how the world works and no one owes you anything.
i dislike logan paul for a number of reasons, but im impressed by how he handled this situation. he even gave the guy in the video a chance and asked him the right leading questions, who then proceeded to fumble and drop the ball. im honestly surprised how open logan was to the idea for the guy to give him SOMETHING to work with. and even when logan got nothing, he still proceeded to give the guy direction. props. great video devin.
I'm an exercise physiologist and still found this video helpful. Thanks for dishing out the good stuff Devin.
thank you for explaining copywriting devin! i'm at a stage in my life where i feel that learning and utilizing copywriting would be beneficial to me. and any other aspiring entrepreneurs should learn more about copywriting as well
Don't care about Logan Paul or some dude quitting his job making 100k a year, but Devin, I'm so glad I stayed for the whole video. Fantastic insight and advice for entrepreneurs and business owners.
Great talk. I very much feel this. I get this on a much, much smaller scale than you, Devin, but it always breaks down to "What value do they offer?' and "What's the opportunity cost?" Sometimes they're skilled and I can keep them on my radar for future opportunities. But skilled or not, it almost always ends with me encouraging them to be entrepreneurial. 'Create value and leverage for yourself, and just be persistent. That's when opportunities come.'
after years of failing and succeeding with pitches in the film biz... this was VERY spot on. That guy had no idea what he was doing. Logan 100% in the right. Devin 1000% in the right. This vid is one of the most inspirational though. Been a long time since i've seen such a fire, unique talk. You always got the juice Devin.
Another banger video. As someone that has to cold call a lot for my work, the part about establishing familiarity and providing value resonates so much.
"You miss every shot you don't take."
- Wayne Gretzky
- Michael Scott
- Lebron James
- Devin Nash
Amazing video thanks Devin! I was just like that dude in my early 20s and did the exact same thing when I tried to get a job from an influencer.
I'm in sales now and became somewhat successful at it and now it's employers asking me to come over.
Hey, loved the video. Completely confirms something I've believed for a while now. Also great motivation to get better at video editing and looking into how to "elevator pitch" myself. Love these sort of life advice/self improvement videos. Would love to see one thats more in depth on how to structure a pitch like this. Keep up the great content :)
These videos are great Devin, ive been loosely following you and your friend group for a while now but i didnt know you had so much good educational content on your youtube!
Thanks Devin for this video.
It's something I have much trouble explaining to people when they ask questions about, and you put it into words perfectly.
I had no idea so many other people actually thought that they were hot shots, and that they were "a connection away" from being a star (always thought it was a weird ego trip some were on).
Bring. Value.
This is a great video lots of really useful information. Ngl I have also thought about shooting my shot on a couple of youtubers I know. Obviously I thought of a pitch before hand on what I could offer them so I wasn’t just asking for a general job. I figured I would ask to intern for them and edit there videos. I could provide them value with well edited videos as well as being able to pick there brains on TH-cam and content creation. This video has really shined a great light on these situations go down, how they should be handled, and the realities on truly being able to provide something of tangible value to these influencers so you’re not just coming off as another dude looking for a hand out.
I think a good Segway from this video would be to talk about the TH-camr "airrack". He went to logan paul (several times) in a simular way, only his pitches and his ability to get into his circle was much more successful.
"I've got the skill, you've got the reach. Let's make something work."
With some extra words and flexes in there. That seems like the obvious pitch here.
This is great advice. I love videos like this as it helps me rewire some toxic parts of the brain that society instills on us. There definitely is the pressure to become more and more successful, everything needs to happen so fast too. But the most important part is actually the journey through which you become a well rounded person according to YOUR circumstances. It's a gradual process and takes time, some great deal of luck too if your goal is to become extremely successful. It's easy to get discouraged nowadays, but what's even the point of life if not to keep struggling and surviving?
I love your videos. I’m not a streamer nor TH-camr but your videos really teach me alot of values and mindsets in order to survive in a corporate. Thanks Devin
Sure it's possible he may have been a bit abrasive, but ultimately he was realistic, which is what people like that kid actually need to hear to grow. It's a difference between wanting a handout vs wanting to grow.
I haven't watch the full video yet, But instead of saying I want to get a job, The first thing would be SHOWING what you can do as quickly as possible without sacrificing quality. You're lucky if someone as famous as him evening giving you a single minute of his time.
Definitely would like to hear more content like this. This advice applies to not only the content creation community but outside as well.
If you don't even know what you want, how is anyone else suppose to know what you want? Don't make it someone else's responsibility to figure out what you need. A good ask is in present tense and actionable. Make it easy for them.
Im a marketer by day and twitch streamer by night and have enjoyed every video of yours over the last year. Please keep up the momentum with these videos, I enjoy the hell out of them.
first opened the door to Logan after the KSI Impaulsive episode, so on this guy right now.
he's so fucking smart and so far removed from the guy he used to be. If you haven't invested any energy into Logan Paul cause of his past, give his podcast a chance. It's far better than you can expect.
No offense, but there are far more insightful people I'd rather take the time to listen to. Nothing against either Paul, they just aren't for me.
Wayne Gretzky... you mean't Wayne f'ing Gretzky LMAO. Love you Devin
Glad you're back to making regular videos. Cheers
“You miss every shot you don’t take” is a Michael Scott quote 😉
I get asked for shout-outs occasionally. I'm not a big channel, so I don't get that many, but every time I go check out what they've got. More often than not, they only have a few videos, and their quality just isn't that good (poor camera work, poor editing, poor content, etc).
So I've started telling people this, "If you could get the best shout out ever. Let's say a HUGE creator in your niche did a dedicated video shouting out your channel. And it was the perfect shout-out in every way. BUT, it's the last shout-out you will ever get. Would you want it now?"
And there's a pause while they think about it, and the smart ones say, "No, not yet." because now they're thinking about their content and how they don't want that shout-out until their content is fantastic. Which is the point.
Your hooked on this cooking thing Devin lmao. I my nutty mind I found that deeply funny.
Im not a massive fan of logan paul but he was in the right, this dude who just quit his job and basically went to him with nothing and expected logan to give him a job so much entitlement and people someone like logan paul owes them something. like i saind im not a fan of logan but i admire him for his business runs and what he has done but he doesn't owe anything to this guy
The time dynamic makes me think of Shark Tank. I wouldn’t ask for any $ for equity. I’d give up equity just for the value they provide & if their team handled all the paperwork. Any $ a Shark would offer pales in comparison to how valuable their time is & I’d make that obvious off the bat.
Airrack understands how reaching out to bigger creators works. Paying and creating content for free with a bigger content creator. He takes the risk.
Towards the end of the video where you talk about TH-camrs giving the info away for free or possibly paying for services like a Master Class or Udemy, another good place to look could be your public library. My library offers Udemy and Universal Class for free if you have a library card with them. Always good to see what's around you as well.
Great video but it was Wayne Gretzky, a hockey guy who said the shots quote. 👀
Solid take, loved how you just jabbed your way through to your right hook at the end. 😉
This is the networking equivalent of YOLOing into BTC at 50k.
I’m not crazy about networking for networking’s sake-I’ve found that showing up and doing the work consistently is a more sustainable route to success.
Combine sustained effort and growth with a well-crafted and well-timed pitch, and you can open a door that changes your life.
For sure man I agree . I've been on both sides of the conversation their.
100% agree you don't deserve anything; you earn it.
Wayne Gretzky said "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."
Wasn’t it Michael Scott that quoted Wayne Gretzky??
@@iwantedjusttom Most people know this quote from The Office ya but he did say it to the media back in the day. Fun fact: He said it in '83 *before* he went on to win 4 Cups with Edmonton.
To say you do a great job on these video's is a massive understatement.
As someone who has no connection to this kind of industry and is young and going into uni these videos and steams are always so interesting and informative and the advice is great. Love it. :)
One of your best videos. I have watched about 100 of yours so far and this is easily a top 3 of what I have watched in your channel.
I really enjoyed this video. Interestingly enough, the 2 tips mentioned in the video is a similar approach to how got my current position as a business director. Thank you for making helpful content on TH-cam.
Great topic to cover here. I got a ton of value and clarity out of this.
You should look into motivational speaking, Devin. Feel like you'd really excel at it
Hey I just wanted to say I have always loved your content and I really appreciate that you've been putting out a lot more stuff lately. Also what I find shocking is that I dislike Logan Paul as a human being but this whole thing, I thought he handled that with some amount of grace. A lot of folks would have just had security drag this dude out of there.
This…. Was spectacular and I hadn’t heard about this prior… but I agree with what you said. In no way am I Logan’s #1 fan but he didn’t do anything wrong. However hearing your perspective really sheds light on the WHY he wasn’t wrong deeper and more meaningful… thanks devin this was one of my faves from you!
I'm good at living a comfortable life, I don't need anything you have to offer me but it was nice meeting you
that's why i'm always so bothered when people just say "you gotta take the risk!"
yeah, taking risk is one thing. but so is gathering information lol
only a fool goes into risk unprepared. i'm not saying to take a lukewarm risk, especially if you're still young & have a decent background that can protect you from falling too deep.
no, but if you wanna make it, try to find the balance of not investing *all* of your time into "preparing" for the risk while at the same time, gather information beforehand.
it really feels like this guy slipped a million dollar life just because he didn't ask himself "so, if logan is interested, what am i going to say" lol
then again, because he shared this, he might still find an opportunity & others become the wiser, since this is just the perfect anecdote.
PS: Hm, elevator pitch, huh? Guess I gotta work one out. I really like that idea. In fact, it's so simple that I'm bothered by the fact that I haven't done that yet lol
I love that you’ve been putting out content devin…. You’re content is extremely important and valuable…. I’m glad you didn’t see this move from this young guy as idiotic… you understand that it’s important to develop your pitch and provide the most effective use of that time. Thank you my dude!! 🙏🏻
Yet again Devin, some really great insights! Keep this stuff up, love listening in.
This guy is like, “Please take pity on me.” He’s essentially Jerry from Rick & Morty
Loved this video! Super valuable for so many! Thanks for doing what you do man!
Logan has done some stupid stuff, but no one should be throwing shade at him for this. This guy had 0 idea what he was doing going in there like that
I really find impressive how you're put this kind of content out for free. It was really useful and made me thing about some stuff I'm working on. It was a great video!
Logan has come such a tremendously long way. Say what you will about him, but for someone who started making random vines to TH-cam to becoming a talked about boxer is crazy. Not to mention how much he evolved since his controversial mess from a few years ago
great video and amazing insight.
id love to see more videos like this, explaining the small details that not alot of creators fully understand like myself.
thanks again!
13:10 It's Wayne Gretzky lol
This is an amazing breakdown of this short clip.
I love this kind of content, Devin! Helps me a lot as I navigate through being a content creator as well as being my own manager.
I have a slightly different take here, I think you need to emphasize that you will make money for the guy you are pitching to and imply that he will lose money by not forming a relationship with you.
I totally agrees with Devin and I would love to be paid to have a mentor but is not realistic in most or even all situations.
"It wouldn't be a Devin Nash video if we didn't have a notepad"
Golden nuggets of information right here, Devin. Holy shit. Thanks man!!
Me before the video: Is this the "I quit my job guy"
20s in: "aww shit, here we go again"