I didn't realize that my hometown squadron was stood back up 5 years ago. 418 City of Edmonton Squadron used to fly Bostons, Mosquitoes, Mitchells, and then became a transport/SAR squadron after WWII. The were disbanded when CFB Edmonton's air base was shuttered and converted to an Army garrison.
From what I heard the modernized version of the Buffalo was not considered since it is not pressurized which was considered a must have for transporting medical patients. That is a provincial matter and there are lots of aircraft and firms available to do this. Are we flying at 20k feet up looking for crash victims? We already know it worked well and could be improved with modern tech like the C130 has had done for decades now.
I work with many ex-reg force airforce officers and everyone who is familiar with this aircraft says they will never fly in the SAR role. Weight and Balance issues and second-stage climb problems are in addition to many other performance issues. They are to be sold or re-purposed as tactical air lifters.
@@RobertHunt-y8n excellent input, spitting facts right there. W&B, second segment climb, SE go around is all a mess- but let’s go with ‘you’re wrong’. 👍
@@darwoo I`ve spent 25 of my 38 years in the Airforce with SAR from Labradors and Buffalos and with the Kingfisher program since the start. I`m an AVN technician, A level, Run--up, etc on the CC295. We`ve taken the Kingfisher to Goose Bay , Alert , Florida , Arizona to name a few places for Operational Testing and Evaluation the plane has performed great, its always ex Airforce types who bad mouth the program that of course their not a part of which is funny because the officers currently flying the Kingfisher, ex Hercules and Buffalo pilots mainly love the airplane, even the ex Aurora AESOPS and ACSOs ( Navigators) have great things to say about it. We fly everyday and recently moved from the SAR Phase to the Rescue Phase doing live Para and Pyro drops and last week we were doing this over CFB Suffield utilizing NVGS as well. I've flown on various missions with no issues, one week in Arizona doing hung up parachute testing flying all week with 5 major sorties plus the flight from Comox and back and the King fisher never had a snag the old Buff never would have made it but what do I know apparently your all the experts. Remember one thing we didn't pick the airplane but there's a lot of people trying to make the program a success and get this plane operational which should be this spring and well be proud of it despite you naysayers.
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Despite years of vetting process nobody can explain why the fact that the aircraft is unstable with the cargo door open in flight according to the aviation media ,kind of makes me wonder if this has something to do with all the command shuffling in Ottawa???
Why is it taking so long to get the CC-295 operational? They should have kept the Buffalos in service while they sort out this new machine properly. The Buffalo was such a great aircraft.
The Buffalos were old, maintenance expensive, and in such poor states as far as time remaining on many critical parts that the very last operational one that went to the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa was trucked there from CFB Trenton, rather than flown, in spite of Rockcliffe Airport still having an operational runway long enough for a Buffalo to safely land on.
No matter how DND spins it, this aircraft is a total embarrassment to the RCAF. The rear ramp is UNUSABLE for SARTechs over 5'-6" in height. That's just the most glaring deficiency of many. It's an open secret nationally that this bird is a Dodo. And the Herc "H" still soldiers on, faithfully.
The spin is also extremely well organized. Including the edict to all CAF Members on base to avoid any negative comments on pain of career-ending consequences. So, you are welcome to post actual video of RAMP jumps by fully-equipped Techs. Luckily, I am not a currently serving Member.
@@JimSwalm I've got better things to do than argue with a bad-faith, jaded old man who is misinformed. You believe whatever you want, I'll keep watching them jump while laughing at you ;)
No they aren't. They're discontinuing only the 26 U-125A variants of the Hawker 800 platform they use for the SEARCH part of SAR, equipped with the APS-134LW radar system. The planes weren't actually used to do the rescue part anyway. Not sure how that's relevant to the CC-295 at all though.
You base this on what , 4 years as a tech on this aircraft great platform training has been delayed but that isn't the aircrafts fault she does everything a buff could do just better and that's from someone who spent 21 years on the Buff.
@@RobertHunt-y8n it’s garbage. And I base that on senior leaderships reaction. It will not do everything a buff can do. I would have hoped the buffalos replacement would not just be as capable BUT way more capable. Your statement could perhaps be a shining example of why Canada’s military procurement process is the worst on earth. That thing is junk. And it was junk from the very beginning.
The Spartan that no other country except America has bought more than 10 of? The Spartan that was already retired by the USAF and given to the Coast Guard because it stunk? The Spartan that the two biggest operators (USA and Australia) have grounded because of cracks in the fuselage? Yeah, no thanks! :)
@@prtfw06You might want to get your facts straight.The Italian Aiforce operates 12 Spartans. RCAF Air Crews and SARTechs have issue with excessive turbulence when the rear cargo door is open on this EADS piece of trash. Further more anyone taller than 5'6" ft or taller is forced to squat or bend down as the cabin height isn't sufficiently tall enough for extended operations.The RCAF should have gone for Viking Aircraft's DHC-5NG Advanced Buffalo Proposal.The fixed wing SAR inventory in Canada should be mainly composed of C-130J's with upgraded variatnts of the Buffalo and Twin Otter supplementing the Hercules at select bases.
@neilwallace6756 I honestly don't care about the misinformation you insist on spreading, but as someone intimately familiar with the situation, and who saw 3 SAR Techs jump out of this platform last week over Comox, I can say with 100% certainly that you are just plain wrong. But please, keep telling me about the "facts" that you keep getting from second hand sources and the rumor mill. Just shows how misinformed you are.
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loved those aircrafts
I didn't realize that my hometown squadron was stood back up 5 years ago. 418 City of Edmonton Squadron used to fly Bostons, Mosquitoes, Mitchells, and then became a transport/SAR squadron after WWII. The were disbanded when CFB Edmonton's air base was shuttered and converted to an Army garrison.
Very nicley explained Sir...
Nice
From what I heard the modernized version of the Buffalo was not considered since it is not pressurized which was considered a must have for transporting medical patients. That is a provincial matter and there are lots of aircraft and firms available to do this. Are we flying at 20k feet up looking for crash victims? We already know it worked well and could be improved with modern tech like the C130 has had done for decades now.
Pressurization is for either dive incidents or mountain incidents like HAPE if I had to guess
I work with many ex-reg force airforce officers and everyone who is familiar with this aircraft says they will never fly in the SAR role. Weight and Balance issues and second-stage climb problems are in addition to many other performance issues. They are to be sold or re-purposed as tactical air lifters.
Too bad your wrong
@@RobertHunt-y8n excellent input, spitting facts right there. W&B, second segment climb, SE go around is all a mess- but let’s go with ‘you’re wrong’. 👍
@@darwoo I`ve spent 25 of my 38 years in the Airforce with SAR from Labradors and Buffalos and with the Kingfisher program since the start. I`m an AVN technician, A level, Run--up, etc on the CC295. We`ve taken the Kingfisher to Goose Bay , Alert , Florida , Arizona to name a few places for Operational Testing and Evaluation the plane has performed great, its always ex Airforce types who bad mouth the program that of course their not a part of which is funny because the officers currently flying the Kingfisher, ex Hercules and Buffalo pilots mainly love the airplane, even the ex Aurora AESOPS and ACSOs ( Navigators) have great things to say about it. We fly everyday and recently moved from the SAR Phase to the Rescue Phase doing live Para and Pyro drops and last week we were doing this over CFB Suffield utilizing NVGS as well. I've flown on various missions with no issues, one week in Arizona doing hung up parachute testing flying all week with 5 major sorties plus the flight from Comox and back and the King fisher never had a snag the old Buff never would have made it but what do I know apparently your all the experts. Remember one thing we didn't pick the airplane but there's a lot of people trying to make the program a success and get this plane operational which should be this spring and well be proud of it despite you naysayers.
Despite years of vetting process nobody can explain why the fact that the aircraft is unstable with the cargo door open in flight according to the aviation media ,kind of makes me wonder if this has something to do with all the command shuffling in Ottawa???
It isn't, and it doesn't.
How old is this unit?
They are all new.
Yeah CN135 aircraft carrier I think 🤔 Spain made aircraft
nice 👍👌❤❤❤❤❤
Airbus C-295, manufactured in Getafe, Spain
Why is it taking so long to get the CC-295 operational? They should have kept the Buffalos in service while they sort out this new machine properly. The Buffalo was such a great aircraft.
The Buffalos were old, maintenance expensive, and in such poor states as far as time remaining on many critical parts that the very last operational one that went to the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa was trucked there from CFB Trenton, rather than flown, in spite of Rockcliffe Airport still having an operational runway long enough for a Buffalo to safely land on.
Interesting.
We should have got the C-27’s
I don't get the name. Canada never used the original Kingfisher. Should be Canso II.
Leo las mismas mentiras que se vierten de forma interesada, desde el inicio del programa. Creo quelos anglosajones viven en una verdadera POSTVERDAD.
No matter how DND spins it, this aircraft is a total embarrassment to the RCAF. The rear ramp is UNUSABLE for SARTechs over 5'-6" in height. That's just the most glaring deficiency of many. It's an open secret nationally that this bird is a Dodo. And the Herc "H" still soldiers on, faithfully.
Well you seem to be just blatantly incorrect here. We saw SAR Techs jumping out of it last week in Comox! Don't believe everything you hear.
The spin is also extremely well organized. Including the edict to all CAF Members on base to avoid any negative comments on pain of career-ending consequences. So, you are welcome to post actual video of RAMP jumps by fully-equipped Techs. Luckily, I am not a currently serving Member.
@@JimSwalm Funny how you expect eye witnesses to provide evidence, but you spew all these ridiculous claims with none...
You really need a better script writer. An eye-witness AvGeek would be just bustin' to share footage - a DND whitewash artist, not so much.
@@JimSwalm I've got better things to do than argue with a bad-faith, jaded old man who is misinformed. You believe whatever you want, I'll keep watching them jump while laughing at you ;)
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another poor choice to bad doen't have enough money to propperly train crews
The Japan Air Self-Defense Force Rescue Squadron will discontinue fixed-wing aircraft... they will be replaced by drones... I'm worried...
Japan is a major partner in GCAP so no they are not discontinuing their fixed wing aircraft.
@@LEFTY073
The U-125A operated by the JASDF's rescue squadron will be decommissioned, although it is not known when.
@@British-ranmsansame Ah I thought you were talking about the whole JASDF.
@@LEFTY073
It's ok😊
No they aren't. They're discontinuing only the 26 U-125A variants of the Hawker 800 platform they use for the SEARCH part of SAR, equipped with the APS-134LW radar system. The planes weren't actually used to do the rescue part anyway. Not sure how that's relevant to the CC-295 at all though.
This is the most useless aircraft in the RCAF right now. Zero capabilities. Can’t lift enough
You base this on what , 4 years as a tech on this aircraft great platform training has been delayed but that isn't the aircrafts fault she does everything a buff could do just better and that's from someone who spent 21 years on the Buff.
@@RobertHunt-y8n it’s garbage. And I base that on senior leaderships reaction. It will not do everything a buff can do. I would have hoped the buffalos replacement would not just be as capable BUT way more capable. Your statement could perhaps be a shining example of why Canada’s military procurement process is the worst on earth. That thing is junk. And it was junk from the very beginning.
RCAF should have chosen The C-27 Spartan not this piece of junk!
The Spartan that no other country except America has bought more than 10 of? The Spartan that was already retired by the USAF and given to the Coast Guard because it stunk? The Spartan that the two biggest operators (USA and Australia) have grounded because of cracks in the fuselage? Yeah, no thanks! :)
@@prtfw06You might want to get your facts straight.The Italian Aiforce operates 12 Spartans. RCAF Air Crews and SARTechs have issue with excessive turbulence when the rear cargo door is open on this EADS piece of trash. Further more anyone taller than 5'6" ft or taller is forced to squat or bend down as the cabin height isn't sufficiently tall enough for extended operations.The RCAF should have gone for Viking Aircraft's DHC-5NG Advanced Buffalo Proposal.The fixed wing SAR inventory in Canada should be mainly composed of C-130J's with upgraded variatnts of the Buffalo and Twin Otter supplementing the Hercules at select bases.
@neilwallace6756 I honestly don't care about the misinformation you insist on spreading, but as someone intimately familiar with the situation, and who saw 3 SAR Techs jump out of this platform last week over Comox, I can say with 100% certainly that you are just plain wrong.
But please, keep telling me about the "facts" that you keep getting from second hand sources and the rumor mill. Just shows how misinformed you are.
Geez man, shave that mess.