Devil's Double-Barreled Attack on Chastity
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2024
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Ride home from church with Pastor Wolfmueller, and hear his meandering thoughts on the Sunday, the Scriptures, and the world.
If you hear something interesting, mention the time in the comments.
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God bless you pastor!
I praise God for not only his example of true marital love in his wedding to the church but also for the witness of his Martyrs. I think it is especially important to remember in this conversation the testimony of John the Baptist, who laid down his life for this very confession
A wonderful lesson that’s much needed in this greatly troubled society in which we live. ✔️
Thank you, Pastor.
Thank you for your work and love and faith in Jesus Christ, pastor. You’ve helped me so much. Praise be to God! ❤✝
Really looking forward to Pastor Wolfmueller's visit to Herning, Denmark.
Thanks for your ministry
Thank you, Pastor! Please talk more about that.
Thank you for your important talk on your drive home. My husband and I are having to deal with some of these issues you talked about at our church. We are standing firm in our Lutheran confessions but I cannot say the same for other members of the church including males who are involved in the church worship. Do you have any suggestions?
Remember to include pornography among the dangers
I have some friends that have gotten a legal divorce but still live as husband and wife. I don't know what to think about this. I could use some insight on this please. Thank you.
Adultery via divorce as well... Christian or not, the divorce rate here in the West is so bad that it seems to me to be quite rare that marriage as ordained by God actually exists. Dunno for sure, but it seems to me that LCMS churches aren't really paying much attention to it.
As the Arian heresy swept through the church in the fourth century and was definitively dealt with by athanasius at Nicaea so perhaps we need a council to deal today with the marriage heresy that is sweeping through the church. A high anthropological statement in parallel to the high christology of Nicaea. I think Paul VI did this in humanae vitae. But it needs to be added to the creed.
He who finds a wife finds a good thing. I know it says that somewhere in the Proverbs : )
Thank you for this, Pastor! Oh, the number of cowardly “pastors” who are willing to compromise on this and will not stand, by God’s grace, against the pressure applied by the “marriage heretics,” and actually GIVE the heretics what they want “IN GOD’S HOUSE!” Oy vey. God, help us! In Jesus’ name. Amen!
The marriage heretics hate marriage and chastity because their manager, the evil one, hates the commandment because it represents Christ and His Bride the Church. Often apostate Israel was referred to as an adulteress in the Old Testament, because God’s people were unfaithful to Him. And didn’t James call those adulterers and adulteresses the ones who were friends with the world? Apparently the prophets and apostles also were considering unfaithfulness to God, usually by idolatry of one sort or another, as spiritually adulterous. Thus if one commandment is violated on some level or other it violates the others as well.
Why is it that sex outside of the covenant of "one man, one woman" is occasionally seen as a good or even God-ordained thing, especially in the Old Testament? I am having problems answering those who live in sin when they bring up these arguments.
We see in Genesis that Rebekah marries Isaac not when a pronouncement of marriage is made, rather when she goes into his tent (and presumably bed), becoming his wife when she went into his home:
"Then Isaac brought her into the tent of Sarah his mother and took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her." Genesis 24:67
We see in 2 Samuel that the prophet Nathan, speaking under the inspiration of God, says that the LORD gave David multiple wives:
"Nathan said to David, “You are the man! Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you out of the hand of Saul. And I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your arms and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah. And if this were too little, I would add to you as much more..." " 2 Samuel 12:7-8
We see in Song of Songs a picture of what appear to be unmarried lovers engaging in intimate acts, with no condemnation:
"Oh that you were like a brother to me
who nursed at my mother’s breasts!
If I found you outside, I would kiss you,
and none would despise me.
I would lead you and bring you
into the house of my mother-
she who used to teach me.
I would give you spiced wine to drink,
the juice of my pomegranate.
His left hand is under my head,
and his right hand embraces me!" Song 8:1-3
How would you answer these accusations that people living together as if married, are ostensibly loving and committed to each other, and yet not married?
Just because it’s in the Bible, doesn’t mean it’s not a sin. Things usually don’t work out very well for those who engage in that type of sexual immorality.
Anything from the New Covenant?
@@lonhickman75 I don't disagree with the fact there are plenty of behaviors that are written about in Scripture without being endorsed. The question is, do these behaviors that are written about constitute sexual immorality? Why or why not?
If, as in my example, polygamy is outside of God's design for marriage, how do we reconcile the fact that a Prophet of God in good standing (Nathan) said that it was God's will that David take Saul's wives? Can we say that God willed and gifted David something that is inherently sinful, i.e. polygamy? Or do we have to revaluate our understanding? (For the record, I am not arguing for bringing back polygamy, rather trying to make a point about dealing with some of the grey areas that people bring up when talking about or rather justifying sexual immorality)
@@br.m Did marriage change between the Old and New Covenants? I didn't think that the covenant of marriage fundamentally (as in, who and what was involved) changed after Christ's death and resurrection, although I may be missing something. In any case, if the definition of marriage did change we have another can of worms, since Jesus says marriage has had the same design since "the beginning" (Matthew 19:4-6, 8).
Thank you, felixcharles, for the hard Biblical questions. If I understand you correctly, I, too, have asked my fellow pastors the same questions. I've asked these questions, not to reduce anything we (LCMS) teach on marriage, but to be able to better explain (call) the young couple who is living together to desire "Christian marriage." That answer is much bigger than your questions. But the overlap is that the Christians (nominal, granted) who are living in a common-law marriage will cite these Biblical examples to justify why they are not sinning. All I can say in response is, "So, why did you not ask God, Jesus, to be in your relationship from the start; why are you making Him an afterthought?"
Pastor, today sex have not secrete, love, like sentiment îs an mister