Someone told me it is pretty common, and happens a lot in the tech industry. I heard Microsoft use to do it as well. How true is it? I don't know. Yet it doesn't surprise me. I'm not defending Apple. It is wrong. It needs to stop, and maybe it will teach these huge companies from doing shady crap like that. Now if it is true, and many other companies poach employees or steal IP? Why do we rarely hear about it. Why is this case different?
@@dianapennepacker6854 what exactly is wrong or shady about poaching your competitors employees? In a market economy it happens all the time and there is a pretty good argument that increases competition, dynamism and leads to higher wages. Walking out the door with your former employers intellectual property on the other hand is shady and in a lot of cases illegal.
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
@@adam872 "Walking out the door with your former employers intellectual property on the other hand is shady and in a lot of cases illegal." That's exactly why companies like Apple poach employees from their competitors and you know it. Oops, since the employees who stole trade secrets has his hands dirty, that means that the company that expected him to do it and rewarded him for doing it must have its hands clean. Fuck you.
Still save apple billions though... Same logic for why companies wont give raise to employees but still willing to pay market rate for new hired. They get away in most case. If even half of the cases backfired, they would stop doing it...
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
Masimo actually has their own fab for sensors and signal conditioning ASICs. They even provide III-V foundry services. That is just how much they have invested in sensing technologies in recent years.
For how Apple present themselves as a green, friendly, customer-oriented company, it is a surprise for many to see how unethically they behave in their day-to-day operation. They preferred to pay large amounts of money to hire Maximo engineers rather than licencing the technology, as they prioritise total control over an honest and efficient business conduct. Happy New Year...
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
At least Jobs was truthful about their evil deeds! It is remarkable that Apple steals ideas and yet year by year only minor improvements are shown. They never stole ideas to improve battery consumption tho 😂😂😂😂
It's kind of sad that certain clips of Steve Jobs are never shown, but the ones they want you to see are shown (such as the one where he talks about removing the floppy disk and ppl compare it to removing the headphone jack)
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
Why would you want a jury to judge a patent trial? It's more a know-how and technical question instead of a murder or something like that. How can you ask a random person that kind of questions?
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
To be fair, I did buy apple products when Steve Jobs was around, and was actually making innovative and trend setting new products. Apple basically has gone stale and just expensive for no good reason after he passed away.
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever: - Cursor/Pointer - The Mouse & R/L buttons - Clickable folder system - Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole -> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece: • Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system. • Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order. Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
@@PhilippeSaner That won't ever work because the crimes are committed on orders of the executives but the fines are paid by the shareholders. Until the law allows for corporate officers at the level of vice-president and above to be personally fined, barred for life from ever holding another executive or board position in any company, and even imprisoned in particularly egregious cases, nothing will change because the worst they face is a golden parachute.
well they have not moved on. They started in 2013 ish, they released v1 in 2020. As stated, the inaccuracy makes the project incomplete and they are likely still working on it. Also these are medical & software engineers making like 400k/y, they will be fine.
No they got nice severance to keep quiet when they are laid off so they don’t implicate any top apple executives including Cook who reportedly knew about this.
Your retelling of the Xerox Alto story was completely wrong. 1) Xerox Parc was known throughout silicon Valley and multiple companies were trying to pull of their own GUI before someone patented it. 2) Jobs was literally the only person who paid Xerox for their technology. He gave them 100,000 shares at a rate that was so reduced that the board threatened to walk out over it. He had wanted to just give them 50,000 shares at no cost but they decided they'd never clear it with the shareholders. Apple are definitely villains in any story of computing history. But the Xerox moment is one of the few times they weren't but have been made out to be by selective retellings.
If you're going to get a smartwatch this year, go with a Garmin. Week-long battery life, waterproof enough to swim with, and the HRV monitoring is actually remarkably useful.
Well Apple, Microsoft and other big Tech companies will always use every trick in the book to keep the top spot and increase their market share. Also wouldn't it be easier to just license or buy the company outright
Never understood the hype of buying an Apple product when I find it so restrictive even with basic tasks you can easily do on an andriod device. Plus this company has been notorious for stealing, plagiarism let alone operate like a religious cult
People with analog watches are gonna lose almost all of it. Apple loyalists who were once into analog have now swung the other way But with there being so many Apple Watches out there Im sure the way to buy is probably used
I'm pretty sure that Apple did the same to Imagination Technologies, they used to provide the GPU's for the iPhone until Apple decided to bring it in-house by hiring many of it's engineers
I hope this is the start of the downfall of Apple. This isn't even a good idea. The value proposition is negligible and it was implemented incredibly poorly. Clearly the executives are out of ideas for how to sell their overpriced trash.
I don't think pulse O2 monitoring on a smartwatch is medically useful in practice. The blood is so good at maintaining your O2 level that a fall in O2 is generally a late sign that you are unwell. In other words, by the time your smartwatch warns you that you might need to go to the hospital, you'll have already gone to the hospital. We may prescribe home blood glucose, blood pressure, and even ECG monitoring, but home O2 monitoring was rarely done until the pandemic and even then, the evidence remains unclear as to whether it's actually helpful. We should have learned from Theranos by now that what the public perceives as medically useful and what is actually medically useful are different ballparks.
Apple should be forced to fork over all the money from the international sales of the apple watches with stolen technology to Masimo plus a hefty fine for copyright violation and corporate espionage. The amount should significantly affect Apple's bottom line and be used to fund other technology companies.
nah, people don't buy those phones just because oximeters. They should be fined by every smarth watch sell relative to the cost of lincensing the patents. Given the fact masimo is "trying" to sell a smartwatch, my best guess is that they will ask a quantity based on the cost per unit of masimo's smarthwatch
Just another reason not to like Apple really. They did much worst than that too, especially towards customers. My experience with Apple products was such a nightmare personally.
Using light to determine blood oxygen levels, has been around for a couple of decades. Masimo has a significantly improved version, and its patent had to have been issued less than 20 years ago. Otherwise the patent would have expired. The technology also had to be fully explained in their patent documents. The technology, by just applying, becomes public record, though the patent gives Masimo exclusive rights of the tech. Developing the exact same tech, independently is not a defense in patents. It is with copyrights. Two different IP laws, but copyright is poor for protecting technology. In copyright, two authors working in respective caves, can both write "War and Peace", independently, and both will have full IP rights to their own version. In patents, the one who get to the patent office first, wins. In the early computer days, software was protected by copyright. But sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, patent law changed, and software became patentable. As for Apple stealing Xerox PARC tech. They didn't. PARC gave it away. That's why both Apple's MAC OS and Microsoft Windows could co-exist. Any rights to the tech, belonged to Xerox, and they did nothing.
I have an Apple Watch for the sole purpose of not carrying my phone. And I have an iPhone for the OS only. A lot of people believe it’s the hardware that draws Apple fans but that’s not true. I was using Windows from the very first release, dos before that, back in the 80’s. It has only been in the last 15 years or so that I began using OS and I just like it much better. So it makes sense to have all your devices using a version of the OS you love using and a side benefit is that they can all communicate with each other and share data. I still have a windows machine and always will. By the way. For serious hikes and exercise I use my Garmin Fenix 6X Saphire. Much better battery life than Apple and they and others have been doing blood oxygen sensing for years. Apple has a long way to go to become a true sports watch. The Apple Watch is the best smart watch though.
@@haroondaman7162 that’s okay too. I also have a Microsoft Surface Pro running Windows 11 and another MacBook Pro running Ubuntu. I don’t have issues using the other OS’s but prefer OS.
they do an aggressive IP defensive tactic by claiming too much coverage for their patents. the idea is simple, claim that any new invention is infringing on your patent and get the other guy lose the patent. this was made possible by the change in law in 2012.
The people who say the use Apple for the "ecosystem" crack me up. You just want to be edgy and feel like you are part of the crowd. Android/Samsung are better phones. There is little to no benefit in using a MacBook with an iPhone and MacBook has massive drawbacks. Even ChromeOS has overtaken Mac in market share now. Apple Watches have absolutely no purpose. If you need a watch, buy a Timex.
I'm not a big fan of apple devices but for a long time Android phones were clearly not superior. Simple things like lag when you scroll made Android look very weak. I blame the Java OS on this and I heard they've mostly replaced it since with a C type language. Apple software can be irritating to use and the hardware is lower spec but the OS and apps are comparatively running more efficiently than on Android. Also there's much less money to be made in Android store so many good apps focus on iOS which makes it the preferred version. This used to be the case for multimedia editing programs too, anything video/image related was better on the mac.
Philo Farnsworth vs RCA for television. Same thing. The only downfall for Farnsworth was WW2 and the end of his patents. And several millions to protect them that led to nothing for him personally. The only thing he or his name has is being the first. Still good for him.
Apple’s existence as the most valued company is proof that illusion sells better than actual technological invasion. One thing Ill credit apple is making their iOS products slick and easy to use. I own a iPhone because of it.
_For at least the past decade, Apple has been synonymous with innovation in consumer electronics industry._ First sentence and already wrong beyond belief.
So basically the entire jury genuinely believes Apple didn’t do anything wrong? What parameters was the jury using to make their decision? Cause it sure sounded like they were guilty the way this video explains it lol…
I don't understand how apple continues to be so successful unless really just a combo of that many fan boys and people that like smooth corners. I don't get it their phone is like 1000 dollars but does same thing as my 50 dollar android phone. Someone explain please what I am missing.
And they should sue apple for that since it's apples fault they decided to willfully steal technology and then turn around to sell to their customers as a selling point which they considered.
It sucks that such a profitable & valuable company has to resort to criminal & legally questionable, if not morally & ethically questionable, behavior. I hate that my money supports this cancer!
This is so stupid and such a dick move from apple. First of all it isn't like this whole oxygen measurement thing is THE selling point of the apple watch, I don't think anyone gives a shit about this really. Second of all why didn't they buy them out or licence it from them lol, so weird
Wait a sec, the patent for pulse oximetry belongs to a Japanese man. Takuo Aoyagi, a Japanese bioengineer at Nihon Kohden, developed a pulse oximeter based on the ratio of red to infrared light absorption in blood. I've seen chinese continuous pulse oximeter watches on aliexpress that look very similar to Masimo W1 watches. What exactly is Masimo's patent dispute with Apple?
Wry misleading title, they didn’t steal the entire watch design, nor did they do anything wrong for the previous 5 designs. A single component of the 6s gen was an issue, this is even how your video starts. I’d rethink the title as it’s not accurate in any way
i hate apple. will never buy again except my wife's iphone... got her on a microsoft surface now it is only a matter of time before all apple products are out of my house.
Windows is entirely based on an old McIntosh OS created by Apple. Apple would have the dominant pc in the world if bill gates hadn’t stolen that. Usually they are the innovators - perhaps they’ve lost their way
Windows is way dirtier than just that. They got their practical monopoly through backroom dealings, IP theft, and alleged criminal conspiracy. And Apple allegedly ripped off more than a few IP's on their way up, too. It seems to be a prerequisite for mukti-billion dollar status.
There is a big difference between copying functionality/UI, which is what literally every company does, and stealing the underlying technology. MS Windows was technologically very different from old Macintosh systems.
@@jerrykreutzer4326before windows, it was all text / DOS based. Apple created the graphic interface. Thats clearly patentable. For the record, they did sue and lost. But bill gates felt so guilty, at one point he loaned Apple a bunch of money so they could avoid bankruptcy.
What a disappointing video! Apple has engaged in the entirely legal and consumer-benefiting practice of poaching top talent. They have won every case on this matter expect one bureaucratic, non-judicial ruling. Apple has achieved something that Masimo never did and likely never could: getting an O2 sensor working in a mass market consumer product. That’s much, much, much harder than getting it working in a niche, high margin industry like medical devices. A Masimo win would have a chilling effect on the consumer electronics industry; keeping many future technologies locked away from ever reaching us consumers. Why anyone would root for that outcome is beyond me.
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Crazy that Apple did this, even if they have the cash to buy these small guys out.
Anyways, great work as usual, keep it up!
Apple is cheap they didn't want to spend couple hundred million for it when they can steal it and pay off the judges..
You dont get to a trillion in valuation by playing by the rules i guess
Apple gets protected a lot by the government / judges most of the time.
Apple's motto: "if it don't make dollars, it don't make cents (sense)"
apple has done far worse
Calling poaching employees, 'smart recruiting' is the most apple thing ever.
Someone told me it is pretty common, and happens a lot in the tech industry. I heard Microsoft use to do it as well.
How true is it? I don't know. Yet it doesn't surprise me.
I'm not defending Apple. It is wrong. It needs to stop, and maybe it will teach these huge companies from doing shady crap like that.
Now if it is true, and many other companies poach employees or steal IP? Why do we rarely hear about it. Why is this case different?
@@dianapennepacker6854 wait till you hear about Google.....
@@dianapennepacker6854 what exactly is wrong or shady about poaching your competitors employees? In a market economy it happens all the time and there is a pretty good argument that increases competition, dynamism and leads to higher wages. Walking out the door with your former employers intellectual property on the other hand is shady and in a lot of cases illegal.
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
@@adam872 "Walking out the door with your former employers intellectual property on the other hand is shady and in a lot of cases illegal." That's exactly why companies like Apple poach employees from their competitors and you know it. Oops, since the employees who stole trade secrets has his hands dirty, that means that the company that expected him to do it and rewarded him for doing it must have its hands clean. Fuck you.
This could become more expensive for Apple than acquiring Masimo would have been 🤷♂️
Concur.
It should
Apple is cheap & greedy, ended up hurting them more
Still save apple billions though... Same logic for why companies wont give raise to employees but still willing to pay market rate for new hired. They get away in most case. If even half of the cases backfired, they would stop doing it...
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
"Innovative products year after year without fail"
LOL, funny
Congrats to Masimo. They could easily have bought the technology.
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
Masimo actually has their own fab for sensors and signal conditioning ASICs. They even provide III-V foundry services. That is just how much they have invested in sensing technologies in recent years.
For how Apple present themselves as a green, friendly, customer-oriented company, it is a surprise for many to see how unethically they behave in their day-to-day operation.
They preferred to pay large amounts of money to hire Maximo engineers rather than licencing the technology, as they prioritise total control over an honest and efficient business conduct.
Happy New Year...
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
Apple fans are stupid and are easily fooled.
At least Jobs was truthful about their evil deeds!
It is remarkable that Apple steals ideas and yet year by year only minor improvements are shown.
They never stole ideas to improve battery consumption tho 😂😂😂😂
Bro!!!! Got the 14 pro and the phone fairly consumes a lot of power when used
It's kind of sad that certain clips of Steve Jobs are never shown, but the ones they want you to see are shown (such as the one where he talks about removing the floppy disk and ppl compare it to removing the headphone jack)
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
they probably dont care about making improvements since a shitty battery makes people buy new phones or pay to replace their battery
Why would you want a jury to judge a patent trial? It's more a know-how and technical question instead of a murder or something like that. How can you ask a random person that kind of questions?
Cynically, you want a Jury Trial in a patent trial if you don't think a Judge would rule in your favour!
When you want some RNG factor to roll the dice on getting the outcome you want rather than the more predictable outcome
@@diestormlieThe likelyhood of the jury being apple sycophants is high
What would you expect from a company whose whole marketing strategy is to hold their customers hostage and Planned Obsolescence.
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
Yep I know, I had a Commodore 128. Thx for the synthesis.
this dude literally read a a full disclosure statement for an ad. sick of people putting in never ending ads
Apple is like a luxury electronics company, you pay for the apple. I have never understood the apple fans, I owned a ipod and hated itunes.
Haven't owned anything apple since a iPod touch prior to affordable Android smartphones.
To be fair, I did buy apple products when Steve Jobs was around, and was actually making innovative and trend setting new products. Apple basically has gone stale and just expensive for no good reason after he passed away.
@@xiphoid2011i don't think iTunes improved even if he was in charge.
Well I can tell you right now that almost no one who owns an apple product uses iTunes
It’s their ecosystem, iPhone, Mac, AirPods and iPads work well together but you’re caught in a prison where you can’t really buy anything else.
classic greedy apple
Jobs stole the very first UI/UX system in history, used in every single computer today; a remarkable breakthrough at Xerox. The first ever:
- Cursor/Pointer
- The Mouse & R/L buttons
- Clickable folder system
- Draggable 'Windows'- which Bill Gates, loving it, then stole
-> Ultimately, The Holy Grail Trio, of the 3-Piece:
• Mouse, Keyboard, & Navigational Screen system.
• Which culminated the first combined user experience & user interface- controlled by clicks, mouse dragging, mouse scrolling, layered windows on screen, and a user-hand controlled customizable layout, and multi-process program interface order.
Before, computers were simply a command line interface without a mouse, and only one single black program screen to work in, like a typewriter from top to bottom. Now, multiple programs could be opened, minimized, dragged, clicked, layered, hidden for later use, multi-tasked, and personally customized by the natural movements of the hand.
I'm so glad the little guy won here! Even if the little guy is a $6 billion company lol
I have proof that I’m the original inventor of the Air Tag. I also know how they got my design 🤬🖕🏻🍎
@@answer420where
@@answer420 prove it
@@kaydim5921 I can. Have proof just need a lawyer and people to listen.
As you said in the end, fines barely make a dent on their revenue. We need to find other, harsher, ways to penalise these giant companies.
Could just make the fines bigger. Not like you'll ever run out of numbers.
That's true. Just add some more zeros.
@@PhilippeSaner That won't ever work because the crimes are committed on orders of the executives but the fines are paid by the shareholders. Until the law allows for corporate officers at the level of vice-president and above to be personally fined, barred for life from ever holding another executive or board position in any company, and even imprisoned in particularly egregious cases, nothing will change because the worst they face is a golden parachute.
I wonder what happened to the employees Apple poached once they moved on from that project. Did they win a ticket to the unemployment line?
Of course
well they have not moved on. They started in 2013 ish, they released v1 in 2020. As stated, the inaccuracy makes the project incomplete and they are likely still working on it. Also these are medical & software engineers making like 400k/y, they will be fine.
No they got nice severance to keep quiet when they are laid off so they don’t implicate any top apple executives including Cook who reportedly knew about this.
@@juniorbitare3041 yeah, OP forgot these engineers got offers upto 1mil to quit Masimo. They will be just fine... if not better than most XD
it sounds like the payout they received should be enough for them to retire early
Your retelling of the Xerox Alto story was completely wrong.
1) Xerox Parc was known throughout silicon Valley and multiple companies were trying to pull of their own GUI before someone patented it.
2) Jobs was literally the only person who paid Xerox for their technology. He gave them 100,000 shares at a rate that was so reduced that the board threatened to walk out over it. He had wanted to just give them 50,000 shares at no cost but they decided they'd never clear it with the shareholders.
Apple are definitely villains in any story of computing history. But the Xerox moment is one of the few times they weren't but have been made out to be by selective retellings.
That one judge must have a lot of apple stock 😅
It's so infuriating that apple didn't just license the patents and that although apple is being punished, the patent holder isn't seeing the benefit.
If you're going to get a smartwatch this year, go with a Garmin. Week-long battery life, waterproof enough to swim with, and the HRV monitoring is actually remarkably useful.
The accuracy is horrible tho.
Yeah but no ecosystem.
@@billymania11 you say that like it's a bad thing.
Jokes aside, its app pairs with tools like MyFitnessPal just fine.
Well Apple, Microsoft and other big Tech companies will always use every trick in the book to keep the top spot and increase their market share. Also wouldn't it be easier to just license or buy the company outright
Always knew Apple was a stealing ideas and tech..
Good for Masimo. I hope this marks the beginning of the fall for Apple. I just hate that company.
I swear the background audio sounds like someone yelling at me
Sincere question; how has Apple been innovative in the last decade?
Patent Theft, apparently!
It has never been innovative.
Never have been
Getting rid of audiojacks
/s
Never understood the hype of buying an Apple product when I find it so restrictive even with basic tasks you can easily do on an andriod device. Plus this company has been notorious for stealing, plagiarism let alone operate like a religious cult
I saw an earlier version of the watch in San Francisco before release. It was like an iPod attached to your wrist, pretty neat.
People with analog watches are gonna lose almost all of it. Apple loyalists who were once into analog have now swung the other way
But with there being so many Apple Watches out there Im sure the way to buy is probably used
I'm pretty sure that Apple did the same to Imagination Technologies, they used to provide the GPU's for the iPhone until Apple decided to bring it in-house by hiring many of it's engineers
Small PP move of Apple. They should have bought the company.
They only needed a license
I hope this is the start of the downfall of Apple. This isn't even a good idea. The value proposition is negligible and it was implemented incredibly poorly. Clearly the executives are out of ideas for how to sell their overpriced trash.
you hope this is the downfall of apple? One feature, in a category that makes 5%~ of rev?
isn't really gonna hurt Apple financially, except their image is slightly tarnished but iFans don't care honestly
I like the term I-Robots - i did the apple thing ans took creative inspiration making it my own new thing 😂@americanfreedomandworldpea6912
ru an idiot? do you realize how heavily the US economy depends on apple?
My nine-year-old Samsung Galaxy S6 has this feature 😂
Ah yes. Just apple doing apple things
I don't think pulse O2 monitoring on a smartwatch is medically useful in practice. The blood is so good at maintaining your O2 level that a fall in O2 is generally a late sign that you are unwell. In other words, by the time your smartwatch warns you that you might need to go to the hospital, you'll have already gone to the hospital. We may prescribe home blood glucose, blood pressure, and even ECG monitoring, but home O2 monitoring was rarely done until the pandemic and even then, the evidence remains unclear as to whether it's actually helpful. We should have learned from Theranos by now that what the public perceives as medically useful and what is actually medically useful are different ballparks.
Does the masimo watch work with iOS? Would they have to buy a license from Apple for it to do so? Would be ironic if so
what did court say about watches already sold, and what punitive fines levied?
just in time
Apple should be forced to fork over all the money from the international sales of the apple watches with stolen technology to Masimo plus a hefty fine for copyright violation and corporate espionage. The amount should significantly affect Apple's bottom line and be used to fund other technology companies.
nah, people don't buy those phones just because oximeters. They should be fined by every smarth watch sell relative to the cost of lincensing the patents. Given the fact masimo is "trying" to sell a smartwatch, my best guess is that they will ask a quantity based on the cost per unit of masimo's smarthwatch
Want to thank the one hold out in the Jury!
Just another reason not to like Apple really. They did much worst than that too, especially towards customers. My experience with Apple products was such a nightmare personally.
Not really "especially" as well. They do horrible things to their employees and everything they touch as well really.
Wait, how much apy?
Google’s Fitbit division has Sp02 monitoring, I wonder if they just licensed it from Masimo.
Using light to determine blood oxygen levels, has been around for a couple of decades. Masimo has a significantly improved version, and its patent had to have been issued less than 20 years ago. Otherwise the patent would have expired. The technology also had to be fully explained in their patent documents. The technology, by just applying, becomes public record, though the patent gives Masimo exclusive rights of the tech. Developing the exact same tech, independently is not a defense in patents. It is with copyrights. Two different IP laws, but copyright is poor for protecting technology.
In copyright, two authors working in respective caves, can both write "War and Peace", independently, and both will have full IP rights to their own version. In patents, the one who get to the patent office first, wins. In the early computer days, software was protected by copyright. But sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, patent law changed, and software became patentable.
As for Apple stealing Xerox PARC tech. They didn't. PARC gave it away. That's why both Apple's MAC OS and Microsoft Windows could co-exist. Any rights to the tech, belonged to Xerox, and they did nothing.
your mic is picking up people in the background
And here I thought only Microsoft would steal things.
I have an Apple Watch for the sole purpose of not carrying my phone. And I have an iPhone for the OS only. A lot of people believe it’s the hardware that draws Apple fans but that’s not true. I was using Windows from the very first release, dos before that, back in the 80’s. It has only been in the last 15 years or so that I began using OS and I just like it much better. So it makes sense to have all your devices using a version of the OS you love using and a side benefit is that they can all communicate with each other and share data. I still have a windows machine and always will.
By the way. For serious hikes and exercise I use my Garmin Fenix 6X Saphire. Much better battery life than Apple and they and others have been doing blood oxygen sensing for years. Apple has a long way to go to become a true sports watch. The Apple Watch is the best smart watch though.
I literally hate Macs because of their operating system
@@haroondaman7162 that’s okay too. I also have a Microsoft Surface Pro running Windows 11 and another MacBook Pro running Ubuntu. I don’t have issues using the other OS’s but prefer OS.
@2:44 I couldn't actually 5.1% tell until you 5.1% told me
they do an aggressive IP defensive tactic by claiming too much coverage for their patents. the idea is simple, claim that any new invention is infringing on your patent and get the other guy lose the patent. this was made possible by the change in law in 2012.
Still waiting on the Berkshire Hathaway FUD video!
The people who say the use Apple for the "ecosystem" crack me up.
You just want to be edgy and feel like you are part of the crowd.
Android/Samsung are better phones.
There is little to no benefit in using a MacBook with an iPhone and MacBook has massive drawbacks. Even ChromeOS has overtaken Mac in market share now.
Apple Watches have absolutely no purpose. If you need a watch, buy a Timex.
I'm not a big fan of apple devices but for a long time Android phones were clearly not superior. Simple things like lag when you scroll made Android look very weak. I blame the Java OS on this and I heard they've mostly replaced it since with a C type language. Apple software can be irritating to use and the hardware is lower spec but the OS and apps are comparatively running more efficiently than on Android. Also there's much less money to be made in Android store so many good apps focus on iOS which makes it the preferred version. This used to be the case for multimedia editing programs too, anything video/image related was better on the mac.
Philo Farnsworth vs RCA for television. Same thing. The only downfall for Farnsworth was WW2 and the end of his patents. And several millions to protect them that led to nothing for him personally. The only thing he or his name has is being the first. Still good for him.
Apple’s existence as the most valued company is proof that illusion sells better than actual technological invasion. One thing Ill credit apple is making their iOS products slick and easy to use. I own a iPhone because of it.
He learned this from Bill Gates.
Silicon Valley was a great tv show... 😂 Big Head to the rescue
If you look at the movie Startup (2001), despite being marketed as a Microsoft inspired corporation, they actually showed Apple.
Dynamic obsolescence - nothing to see here.
Why not just pay masimo with intellectual property price
They did it because they knew they had the money to just pay the fines
Disgusting..I was thinking of replacing my old i-phone with a new one... After this story, I threw it in the trash and bought another brand..
you are very emotional and impulsive, dude
I bet it's one made by humble villagers made from locally sourced materials.
lmao no you didnt
I'll take sh*t that never happened for $1000, Alex.
_For at least the past decade, Apple has been synonymous with innovation in consumer electronics industry._
First sentence and already wrong beyond belief.
Clarify me. Why is a jury needed here?
Apple should just pay the company. No one will buy the watch of the Masimo
Apple found a way to sell an accessory for their phones thats just like the phone but worse. Neat😂
Hope apple wins this tech needs to be opened
They could pay for a licence and open it up, they would rather steel it
Fitbit had one before Apple. It was garbage - being a Fitbit. Kept telling me I was borderline dying 😂 when I wasn’t.
I was expecting this to be about pebble. It seems that the watch is a pile of IP theft.
Glad Apple lost. By the way, Samsung has had blood oxygen reader and HRM on their phones for a long time
" it's as easy as stealing an Apple from a medical patient"
Ohhh...
apple has done far worse. just look at what they did to qcom.
Wait until you hear about the behaviour of "Literally every big tech company ever".
So basically the entire jury genuinely believes Apple didn’t do anything wrong? What parameters was the jury using to make their decision? Cause it sure sounded like they were guilty the way this video explains it lol…
They all have iPhones probably
I just don't know why they didn't just bought the company
I don't understand how apple continues to be so successful unless really just a combo of that many fan boys and people that like smooth corners. I don't get it their phone is like 1000 dollars but does same thing as my 50 dollar android phone. Someone explain please what I am missing.
You haven't got as much ram, storage or battery size.
However a phone of £300 can get you more of all of those things compared to an iPhone
Apple stole Masimo employees and the tech instead of paying for it. What the fuck
Crazy thing is all those people who bought apple watches wont have access to what they bought.
And they should sue apple for that since it's apples fault they decided to willfully steal technology and then turn around to sell to their customers as a selling point which they considered.
@@elihernandez330Apple will probably give everybody $7 in a class action lawsuit, just like on their other settlements
No one ever said Apple fans are smart.
It sucks that such a profitable & valuable company has to resort to criminal & legally questionable, if not morally & ethically questionable, behavior. I hate that my money supports this cancer!
Finally, Apple's recognised as an overpriced luxury few actually need. About time its dirty tactics are catching up
Do you need a jury to decide a mathematical question?
Anyone wanna bet those 6 People in favor of Apple are die Hard Apple Fans^^
injected into my veinnssss
All I got from this is Apple is possibly involved in the pandemic to sell stupid effin “watches”
Apple never invented anything
Excatly
This is so stupid and such a dick move from apple. First of all it isn't like this whole oxygen measurement thing is THE selling point of the apple watch, I don't think anyone gives a shit about this really. Second of all why didn't they buy them out or licence it from them lol, so weird
Good artist copy, Great artist steal
😂😂😂😂romanticizing crime
Most hyped company ever. It's crazy that a phone manufacturer company is worth 3T.
"phone manufacturer"🤦♂
@@ronsmith4325 lol go check their wiki. Check out what it says and report back.
Zapple has always been a scumbag company, that's why I no longer buy apple crap
TIME FOR FACE REVEAL
they learn from china.hhahahha
Wait a sec, the patent for pulse oximetry belongs to a Japanese man. Takuo Aoyagi, a Japanese bioengineer at Nihon Kohden, developed a pulse oximeter based on the ratio of red to infrared light absorption in blood.
I've seen chinese continuous pulse oximeter watches on aliexpress that look very similar to Masimo W1 watches.
What exactly is Masimo's patent dispute with Apple?
Wry misleading title, they didn’t steal the entire watch design, nor did they do anything wrong for the previous 5 designs. A single component of the 6s gen was an issue, this is even how your video starts. I’d rethink the title as it’s not accurate in any way
When you say innovate of course you mean stole from PARC....
i hate apple. will never buy again except my wife's iphone... got her on a microsoft surface now it is only a matter of time before all apple products are out of my house.
Wait. Apple are thieves. Next thing you’re gonna tell me is that they stole the idea for windows operating system and the mouse from xerox?😂😂😂
Is there anything to understand in a religion? 🤪
Windows is entirely based on an old McIntosh OS created by Apple. Apple would have the dominant pc in the world if bill gates hadn’t stolen that.
Usually they are the innovators - perhaps they’ve lost their way
Windows is way dirtier than just that. They got their practical monopoly through backroom dealings, IP theft, and alleged criminal conspiracy.
And Apple allegedly ripped off more than a few IP's on their way up, too. It seems to be a prerequisite for mukti-billion dollar status.
There is a big difference between copying functionality/UI, which is what literally every company does, and stealing the underlying technology. MS Windows was technologically very different from old Macintosh systems.
@@jerrykreutzer4326before windows, it was all text / DOS based. Apple created the graphic interface. Thats clearly patentable.
For the record, they did sue and lost. But bill gates felt so guilty, at one point he loaned Apple a bunch of money so they could avoid bankruptcy.
Startups are innovators, bigcorp are not.
@@aaronhpa nonsense. Big corps innovate all the time. They have entire R&D departments dedicated to it.
What a disappointing video! Apple has engaged in the entirely legal and consumer-benefiting practice of poaching top talent. They have won every case on this matter expect one bureaucratic, non-judicial ruling.
Apple has achieved something that Masimo never did and likely never could: getting an O2 sensor working in a mass market consumer product. That’s much, much, much harder than getting it working in a niche, high margin industry like medical devices.
A Masimo win would have a chilling effect on the consumer electronics industry; keeping many future technologies locked away from ever reaching us consumers. Why anyone would root for that outcome is beyond me.