The New Glasgow Subway Trains Are INCREDIBLE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- The Glasgow Subway is famous as the third oldest underground metro system in the world, and the only one to have never been expanded in the century since. Having last received new trains back in 1980, it's now time for Stadler's fully modern third generation rolling stock to take over operations around the 16-station inner and outer Subway circle.
In April, I visited Glasgow to ride the old units for the last time, but more importantly to try out these new trains for myself.
When Scotland’s tube looks more like the tube than “the tube”
I really wish they would expand the metro
I logged in specifically to say - it looks shockingly like a tube - I see 57 others had the same reaction
@@ciaranReal the wont as it would cost billions to do
What a ridiculous comment.
I use it almost daily. I live only 200 yards from Govan underground station where the main terminal is based.
They should run this in Elon's stupid car tunnels, they'd fit.
FR! 😂😂😂 They should.
Not enough room, after accounting for his ego.
Send it into space with his rocket 😮
I think your comment is what is stupid. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
I swear his car tunnels were just a PR stunt and he has publicly admitted that now
"it's giving sci-fi worm" got me really good and i don't know why 💀
lovely video, you get a sub
subtitle display too short, by the time you realise it's on the screen and look down it's gone, I had to replay. Hold them for a bit longer!!
I require Glasgow Subway to take a leaf out the LT Museum's book and produce socks in matching moquette
They've made socks of the previous moquette! They're very nice. Fingers crossed they get round to this one sooner rather than later
They look futuristic - but retro futuristic. As in what someone in the 1970’s thought the future would look like in a tv sci-fi.. And I don’t mean that in a negative way- think they look great. Only thing is while white looks great - only if they maintain it with frequent cleaning. White is never forgiving to any amount of dirt and it will get greasy, dusty, streaks down it.
New Yorker here. I’ve ridden about 10 different subways around the world and only two them made me think - this is cool. Glasgow was one of them. The other was Paris.
Seoul has a terrific subway.
Try Tokyo...
@@huss1205 hopefully some day
@@huss1205 is Tokyo cool or just highly efficient? I was floored by Glasgow because it was so weird, not because it was so good (tho it was pretty decent). And the Paris one is just beautiful.
@@babbaganush9659 it's a big network, huge, on scale hard to imagine, clean, safe, and very precise, it's very well maintained. Stations, especially the big ones, you can spend the day there enjoying restaurants, coffeshops, shopping, cinema, and for the whole family.
Love the Subway, but is it really ludicrously small; or is it that the rest of the world is ludicrously big?
Maybe it's a long way away.
The trains operate on a four foot gauge, compared with 4ft 8 inches for other Briitsh trains. This means they're narrower and smaller.
Very old tunnels dug with the limited technology of the time constraining size. Even London’s underground seems small compared to other systems. Don’t see how anyone over 2m in height could ride these comfortably.
I’m spoilt living on one of Tokyo’s newer lines with the cars having twice the space of these and an incredibly smooth ride, but the exterior design of these is more futuristic than anything I’ve seen in Tokyo yet.
@@mirzaahmed6589 Reminded me of David Mitchell's giant tortoise comment on QI. "They thought it was a normal train, just farther away"
Very few Glaswegians stand more than 5' tall so the Subway is perfectly adequately sized.
Look up LEGO space station and the resemblance is uncanny, down to the white and orange color scheme
I'm kinda baffled that this is only the third generation rolling stock for a system over 125 years old. Turns out the first generation stock had 81 years of revenue service! That's nuts!
The first gen were rope-hauled so apart there were no on-board motors etc to wear out (apart from the doors?). They were wooden bodied and aparently for the last few years overhauls consisted of banging in longer nails. What bugs me is that when staying with friends in Glasgow I was taken to see the 'wee trains' in their last week of operation and I cant believe that was more than 40 years ago.
@@andrewdarley8988 oh wow interesting, that might explain it somewhat. Thanks for sharing!
@@andrewdarley8988Electric motors on the 1st generation for around 50 years.
Wait until Scotland has experienced the South Africa / Rhodesia effect and you realize this is the last rolling stock and your grandchildren will never travel on a subway.
Not rope cable , engadeg n disengaged via a clutch fron the cab , the same rolling stock was ekectrfied in the 1930s withdrawn in 1978@@andrewdarley8988
As an American, who is used to giant subway/train cars, and as a 6’5 guy…I could feel my breath literally catching in my chest at the size of these things. 😅 Geez they’re tiny. I’d get a bit claustrophobic at first. But beyond that that, it’s amazing how clean, well-kept, and nice every thing is. The stations are beautiful, the train themselves look very nice - even the older models were miles better than what we have over here in most of our cities with train/subway systems. Very, very nice. Our train lines could take some cues and lessons from this!
Great design. Now you have to fix the tracks. 😉
Or retouch the bogies.
Their mainline trains on Anglia are, IMHO, the best regional trains in the country for ambience.
Also 2-for-2 on level boarding trains. Great for accessibility and level boarding just speeds up embarking & disembarking, meaning less dwell time
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Stadler FLIRT my beloved
I really don’t think that you should use a train as an ambulance!!
Love the look of the long, narrow headlights and taillights!
Look like devil teeth. 😅
You have to be joking it looks hideous
@@MidlandMainlineMadnessandmoreYou have to be joking. They look great.
Very unique subway cars. They have a retro modern design to them with an homage to the old model. I like it
I had to laugh a little when I saw the warning over the door to watch your head. I've never seen that on a subway car before. That must be unique to your system as well. Thanks.
I'm from Los Angeles and have been using our growing Metro network more often as of late. We're getting some cool new lines next year, including a long overdue connection to the LAX airport.
the alternative "mind you head" sign is "duck or grouse"
1:41 bro got that subway drip
Hahaha yes!!!
Living in Byres Road in 1972/73, I just experienced the 1st generation stock. Amazing experience and character, like the glazing moving within the frames as they rolled along - loved it!
Born in 1972, never experienced them.
Very nice design, I love the aesthetic lighting at the front and the openings, as well as the reflective driver’s seat area. It looks clean and minimalistic.
Greetings from LA. Europe is so far ahead on public amenities, it's not even funny. Those trains are among the smallest I've seen, but certainly seem to get the job done. This vid definitely puts Glasgow on my future destination list.
Greatest city in the world.
@@alastairorr6318 glasgow is good mate, but I wouldn't say "greatest in the world"
As a regular user of the subway, they aren't that incredible. Hard seats, doors take long to open, smaller inside and fewer grab handles to hold on to - especially by the doors. Worst of all is the ride, which shakes side to side an unnerving amount.
Replacement was needed but the new ones have their flaws.
They don't even have a PIS, just a screen displaying all the stops.
You better get used to them because you will be riding them for the next 40 years
@@peterwaugh9416 There's not the slightest chance they'll last as long as the gen 2 stock
I don't like the slow doors on modern trains much either. I miss all the air pressure doors and folding doors on metros and trams from the 60s-90s and why does everything have to have the aesthetic of a fridge these days?
I noticed the lack of grab handles and the seats do look on the firm side.
I grew up using the MCW subway trains and when I was a baby I travelled on the original stock, just before the big renovation works.
I have memories of the construction work at Hillhead when I was three years old.
Those are really pretty! Suggestive of Space:1999, in a way, but more elegantly.
Now that you mention it, yes!
The trains are good, but why do they sway so much? If the new model is so sensitive to the quality of the canvas, then this is not good
The tunnels are pretty tiny. It really limits the dimensions of the train.
Lovely “Space Odyssey 2001” inspired look - retro modernist/space age style genre.
Kelvinbridge, the stop I'd use every day of my school life in Glasgow. Imagine those platforms, rammed with people, and no safety fence. The subway is truly iconic and deserves its place as Glasgow's heart. Also, often forgotten by some, it's the third oldest metro system in the world.
I haven't been back in Scotland for years, so this is first time I've seen those safety fences. Brilliant idea!
Just imagine Ibrox station on Copland Road after a match at Ibrox, queues right and around the corner towards the stadium. I previously lived on Copland Road and could see the station entrance from my window.
@@UncleFester-zz5jjThey are due to be put on the edge of each platform when they become driverless in a few years time.
Amazing video as always, let's hope stadler go 3 for 3!
oh they will. Newcastle can bet on it.
Spiderman could have stopped this one easily
I’m old enough to be able to say I have travelled on all three models of our subway trains, and have the ability to see a first generation coach at my place of work.
If you think the subway trains are noisy, them you haven’t experienced the first generation trains as the were wooden bodied, and the doors were open like you’d see in old lifts with manual doors.
The power pickups were around mid way up the side of the coaches, with two wires and contacts that took power to the motors, unlike today’s third rail.
Those old coaches would rock side too side; the bodies that is, as the joints in the framing had loosened off over many years of use… those were the days!
I would use my dinner break (lunch hour) from work and have a wee hurl on the subway just for the fun of it…!
And St Enoch Station; the subway one, was what is now a Cafe Nero back then… how they bypassed that station when they built the current station was a feat of engineering! 🏴
The two wires supplied the lighting current, not the traction current. The block system was also operated Fromm the lighting circuit which was a real anachronism.
@@screwdriver5181 it was a long time ago so memory isn’t as good as it used to be 👨🦳
Mention the accessability issue to them.
They should fix that.
I'm from Switzerland and I work at Stadler!
Why isn't it shaped like a Toblerone?
Who cares?
I'm a vegan.
Thank you for your services to transportation. 🙂
And you'll never own your own home
Surely they can do some track work to smooth out out the ride
Glasgow has a reputation to maintain. Long ago the trams would "shoogle" going to Auchenshuggle and the Subway has to maintain that. When the train stops "shoogling" it's stopped.😊
Hahaha these are incredible, I love the design. Why are the tunnels so damn small?? Time to hit Wikipedia I guess 😂
It looks like the new Piccadilly Line trains a lil bit
Ye its probably inspired by it
Great video! I had no idea that Glasgow _had_ a subway. Thanks for your hard work putting this together. Look forward to more of these.
It is the 3rd oldest in the world behind London and Budapest, opened in 1896. It is the most famous in the world due to being very unique and nicknamed the "Clockwork Orange".
It's one of the only ones to never have been expanded. It runs an outer and an inner line, so you can get off and go back to where you started on the opposite line .
Oh wow those are short! Looks like a person my height (6'0) could really only stand up in the very middle, if at all. But it also looks like widening or raising the height of the cars at all would basically require you to redo the entire system. What a unique artifact of that early age of subways.
Every farewell hurts... But I think the new generation is a great replacement
to the 2. generation trains. And honestly
**the new ones are pretty cool**
🧡🤍🧡🤍🧡
Love your 44 yr old trolleys looking absolutely space-aged compared to Boston's considerably younger fleet. And the new ones, phew. Impressive.
So funny that you should miss the orange trains; I still miss the red ones. You don't know what a shoogle is till you've been on one of them!
They look fantastic. 👍
just from a visual point of view, the open gangway is sick! it feels a lot less claustrophobic.
I found the new cars especially at the end of the last car to be extremely bouncy. We were hanging on, hoping not to be thrown out of our seats.
Does automatic operation mean unmanned trains? Where I am, subway trains are fully automatic, but they still have a person in the cab.
Yes as far as I'm aware the plan is for them to be driverless in the Copenhagen/DLR style with no cab
Paris Metro also has driverless trains on some lines where you can sit in the front.
Pleasantly surprised to see the Glasgow subway getting new subway trains. Used to live in Cowcaddens, so seeing this makes me want to visit Glasgow again! 😊
Seems weird to me, the ones just out of service *are* the new trains, I remember travelling on the originals to and from school, before the renovation
Should be fun to try these new new ones
Will expansion ever happen ?
No. It isn’t possible due to it being one circular line with 2 tracks one clockwise one anti. Any expansion would require the boring of new tunnels and the building of interchange stations. It would be prohibitively expensive and unnecessary given the small size of the inner city. Many areas outside the centre can be reached by surface rail from the 2 main stations.
LOL at the utterly ridiculous shaking of passengers
We used to make everything. Now we have to go, cap in hand to Switzerland of all places. What a bizarre country we have become.
Foreign imported trains in one of the major engineering cities of the world.
What next? Foreign ships?
They're my daily view of my commute and I'm proud and priviliged to be able to use them almost every day. I love how quirky it is! The new trains are definitely such a fresh new look to what a previously seen as 'kinda dilapidated' look.
Nevertheless, the old trains were nostalgic enough for me and kinda sad they didn't preserve at least a whole set as opposed to just 1 car at the Riverside Museum.
What a nicely made production! Cute and compact, much like the two-thirds scale subway itself. I'm sure that digging out and shoring up those tunnels was a lot more labour intensive when they did it than it would be in this era, so that's understandable and makes your subway nicely distinctive.
One bad thing is there’s no holding rail above you at the door area like there used to be
I've travelled extensively on Glasgow's subway and the old MCW trains recall fond memories of childhood and youth, and of dear departed family members. The new trains are no doubt more efficient, but they seem to lack the practical approach of the industrial design of their predecessors. I'm not that keen on automatic train operation without the supervision of a driver. Both in terms of safety and in terms of jobs. One thing I really don't like are the black cab ends.
I designed part of the control system on the orange units. It doesn’t seem 5 minutes ago that I was up there doing commissioning work.
Would that be the bit that caused them to notch up and down all the time to maintain set speeds? \m/
Really good vid! as someone who hasn't rode the subway in years, its nice to see what its like nowadays!
such a good video. I love Glasgow. subscribed!
great video man, love the design of these trains old and new
Wow! I didnt know Glasgow had an underground system. For a small city I really never expected it. Puts to shame some of the bigger cities.
At the time (late 1800s) it was often known as the Second City of the British Empire. Not the best legacy, but it was comparatively both very big and very important
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This is a really great video. Perfect length, clear, gentle narration, interesting video shots, high quality throughout. Excellent :D
Stadler Fan Club here 😊
Like the Stadler cars which you see occasionally here in Israel to... they are fare less ubiquitous than the Bombardiers and Siemens cars, but they have there own quirky comfort when they appear on some local and branch lines.
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woah 🤯 guess I gotta visit
Glasgow resident here, great video! good info, do miss the old catterpillar looking subway faces but, can't deny this model looks cleaner
I hope the seats are more comfortable than on the Merseyrail 777s, but of course the journeys are longer there and you have more time to notice!!
Amazing to see how the oldest underground metro has evolved over the Years... 🙂 We like the use of orange color... it gives happiness 🤣🤣🤣
I've watched quite a few videos on the Glasgow subway one of which showed that it is possible to walk from station to station than the subway train so why doesn't Glasgow City Council or whoever is responsible for public transport there extend the subway by building lines going out of the city centre similar to the metro in Moscow?
Even in London now it's almost impossible to get the government to part with the funds for transit expansion. Other cities have no chance until there's a step change in policy
Glasgow is mainly built on rock, which makes expansion of the system particularly expensive. Glasgow is lucky to still have the subway; in the 1970s, serious consideration was given to shutting it down permanently. Fortunately, they elected to modernise it instead, at great expense.
Why were the trains not made in Scotland.
@@rookdy to my knowledge none of the rolling stock manufacturers have a facility in Scotland
@@edificity Thatcher sold them out.
Why don't they expand it, Glasgow is around a million people
The subway isn't that important.
When it was refurbished in the 1970s, the other option was closure.
Now the trams... that's what transport was about.
Here in Montreal our Metro seats are molded hard plastic - my boney butt hugely envies your upholstered benches! But it must be difficult sitting in the middle of one, with no grab bars, with the train lurching as it seems to do...
These are starting to look more and more like the old Lamson pneumatic tube systems on a larger scale.
I was terrified of them!
Way better than the strictly utilitarian LT products. Can't call them trains.
Why was it never expanded?
Awesome I like thr newj subway as clean and has air conditioning and feels better Awesome review
The old ones look really good, so I hope they preserve them somehow.
They've moved one to the Transport Museum. 😊
nice, concise and to the point video.
Pity that the new trains are made overseas, but good reviews, but don't make the mistake of driverless trains. Surprised that they don't indicate where the train is along the line. It's been in place in London tube trains for over 2 decades. Great shame that the same supplier is in line for the wonderful Newcastle metro. No wonder we're in a manufacturing mess, particularly as Andy Lord of TfL has gone for the appalling Siemens of Austria, with the New Piccadilly trains. Glad that you are happy with the new trains, but when we invest public money, it should ,in my view , spent on British or Irish jobs, technology and engineering skills. At least we're renewing some infrastructure.
Is the smell still there?Thats what I want to know.Loved that aroma.A mixture of steel,oil,sparks and humanity.
Olde Glasgow
@@alastairorr6318 The tarry smell of the rope dressing had gone when I first rode on it.
@tooleyheadbang4239 I have riding it since the late 70's or early 80's when going to school. I am on it almost daily.
@precbass - See comment by - '@eunoiavision7567 23 hours ago'
Those accessibility issues are really inexcusable in 2024. Every passenger should know exactly where they are and where they are going to be next at all times and this information should be communicated audibly and visually.
Aye INCREDIBLY shite, how they managed to make a 50 year old system worse in pretty much every way is somehow admirable
Very nice! Well done, Glasgow. This regular rider of a slightly older (and much dirtier) subway system, is impressed. EDIT: Your system is THAT SMALL? No wonder the trains and stations are so spotless!
It looks like people cannot enjoy space anymore, they are being stuffed everywhere they go.
Small homes, small neighborhoods (15 minutes cities), small cars, small bikes, small metro.....
Absolutely beautiful! On UK type metro the exterior front/back look so ugly with prominent door, bang in centre. This nicely disguises that.
As you said, that mirror partition to driver is nice touch.
Why driverless, oh well, there's the unemployment benefit and looking forward to being called/thought of as a bum.
Next thing to look forward to is homelessness and meaninglessness. Be great when we get our AI implant.
Scotland, big shout out for not being barbarians such as South of the Border with the riots.
Always thought the British Empire was an English Empire, and that was for the privileged.
Rod Stewart got it right when he said he didn't want Brexit.
That's a rough ride!
Bad idea to have upholstery seats. As well as being incredibly unhygienic, they will soon become threadbare and need constant replacement. They should have gone with metal seats like most modern metros do. Metal seats are easier to wipe off the Buckfast and deep fried Mars Bar vomit too.
I kinda like the looks, but why are they so suffocatingly small? I'm 185cm and doubt I'd fit comfortably there. You are not supposed to stand there and just crawl inside and fall on the bench? Really weird decision to have such a low ceiling, what about an evacuation, how do you move fast inside this tight space?
3:20 Was that Jago Hazzard lurking?
I've had a couple of days out on the new subway trains. Things I like.. I like the flashing light strips beside the doors. I like the 'spacious' walk-through cars. I like that the cars don't screech like the old ones on tighter curves. What don't I like? Not much apart from the completely uninformative LCD screens... 4 per car, that contribute nothing at all. The old 'subway shoogle' is still present, but that seems to be unfixable. Overall, I like the new subway trains. I'm old enough to have travelled on the old raed subway trains you can find in the transport museum, so the new trains are a huge improvement.
Increase playback speed to 1.5x, perhaps even 2x for authentic Glaswegian normal confab rate.
No, having full on benches instead of seats doesn't maximize space. People will voluntarily sit slightly less packed, meaning there will be roughly 1 or 2 less people per bench... not a big difference but still, seats would be better
03:01 yep. Likely like the national rail system one company is probably in charge of the network and lines whilst another is in charge of the trains and carriages. People complained about that on the new high speed GWR trains running from Cardiff to Exeter, that the ride was really bumpy. But that’s what happens when the train company develops high speed trains separately from the infrastructure which doesn’t get updated to match! 😂
Stadler seems to be thriving on small orders. These days it seems that any other European rolling stock manufacturer would dismiss any order smaller than 100 cars. Good for Stadler! And good for Europe's many small/medium mass transit systems.
I can see with my imaginationhow Japanese would paint them as caterpillars with faces. And since there are only 17 of them each could have some distinctive feature and name. Wouldn't it be fun to ride caterpillar Magda, Joe or whatever... 😀
But, they are still very uncomfortable. They need a track laid. Still bouncing from side to side and have to slow down to 10mph in places or passengers could be injured.
Glasgow Underground is incredible, but the accessibility is absolutely ridiculous!
I’m surprised by what seems to be an obvious design floor: with the absence of any apparent armrests on those bench seats, how are those with compromised mobility going to stand back up??!!?!? This won’t be an accessibility issue that’s as easy to put right as next station info and announcements.
A lot of elderly people, as an example, have arthritis in their knees and hips. Unless someone with poor mobility is sat next to one of the few vertical poles, this seems to be a very big oversight??!?
Nice informative video on Glasgow’s newest subway cars. As a veteran New Yorker and almost expert on our subway system, riders must get use to the bouncing and swaying of those coaches fast starts and equally fast decelerations. In fact, there is an art or almost skill on a crowded car and the angle you are standing, shifting your weight to the fast starts and stops. Anyhow, look forward to another video. Cheers my good man!! 😎
I hope the new york government either expands the subway or upgrade the old system
i cant be the only one to think light rail would complement this subway SO MUCH
I value the Glasgow subway as the second best in the world , i prefer them right over the tin cans of the NYC subway , but i still find the london tube a bit more amazing. overall , im sad to see these trains go and funnily enough , it looks very similar to the NTFL trains coming soon.
Should have spent the money fixing the tracks - ridiculous!
Never ridden a subway, but I am extremely curious about why the ride seemed so rough... it is on rails right? just seemed awful bumpy
The new trains are indeed amazing, rode them today