The tracked Hussars! | Polish Armoured Fighting Vehicles of 1918-1945 Part 2

While the Polish Army collaborated with British weapon manufacturers in acquiring armored vehicles, there were proposals to design and locally produce such vehicles. During the late twenties, the Polish Army opened a tender for a completely new and domestically-built tank. As, at that time, Poland lacked proper armored vehicle designers, only the WB-10 wheel-cum-track design, which was proposed by the S.A.B.E.M.S. and WSABP “Parowóz” (“Steam Locomotive”) companies, was accepted. Following the examination of two built prototypes, the whole project was canceled due to its extremely poor overall design. This failed attempt made it clear to the Polish Army that they simply had no choice but to acquire more modern armored vehicles from abroad, at least for some time to come.
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An article by Marko Pantelic
Narrated by Mr Sibbz / @mrsibbz
Edited by Big Turn
Sound edited by Gabe

[@dasboot5903]

*If I remember 10TP (based on Christis suspension model) it was designed into the role of the fast pursuit tank !!! They were 2 prototypes build and practically tested before the war, and Poles were constantly improving its design. Unfortunately, the war came faster then adoption of the brilliant ideas, and possibilities of the massive 10TP tank production. It was already too late to freshly re-borne the Republic of Poland ... On September 1st, German Wehrmacht and Slovak National Army ... they crossed the Polish border. Two weeks later, on September 17th, 1939, the Soviet army did the same thing attacking Poland from the East.* :o(

[@JerryP7a]

1 prototype, it was decided to upgrade it to 14tp

[@dasboot5903]

@@JerryP7a R U so sure about it. ?? Once, I saw the archive picture of TWO of them together of being traveling on the road in Poland before the war started.

[@MickTheDutch]

Thanks for another amazing video with great narration. Its always interesting to learn about the Polish side of Armour development i think

[@nuelsitohang8834]

And the tracked hussars arrived!!

[@weddellseal8414]

rolling down that mountain side

[@sebastianthomsen2225]

@@weddellseal8414 :D

[@rc59191]

Doesn't have quite the same ring to it lol.

[@deodob7465]

A storm of fire and steel

[@GreatPolishWingedHussars]

Just because of the title “tracked Hussars!” I give it a thumbs up! Great idea to use the Polish Hussars in the title.

[@Galvars]

Vickers E in two turrets variant was also rearmed with water cooled Browning wz.30 MG's.

[@Saturnus_Ouranos]

Turrets, do you mean

[@Galvars]

@@Saturnus_Ouranos Autocorrect... damn you! DAMN YOU! [edited, thx]

[@Saturnus_Ouranos]

@@Galvars you are welcome

[@niepowaznyczlowiek]

I like your no bullshit responses in the comments

[@falloutghoul1]

13 German Panzerkampfwagens vs 1 Tankette Boi

[@CB-py1xh]

German armor wasnt even much more advanced than their Polish counterparts in 1939. That very quickly changed in the following years.

[@SyjonS001]

@@CB-py1xhTrue

[@dasboot5903]

It truly happened in September 1939 on one occasion in the forest called Puszcza Kampinoska, near Warsaw !!!! One TKS rearmed with Polish designed and made the heaviest machine gun (the cannon fast shooting 20 mm caliber), destroyed a couple of German Panzer II & Panzer III.

[@mando_dablord2646]

I like those odds, it is a fair fight.

[@player400_official]

Yup. Tank commander Orlik became the first ace of the war.

[@iivin4233]

It seems like the Poles did way more to fight at every point of WW2 than the French did.
What a thankless job they did.

[@piterjacksonpl0776]

Fun fact - Polish 7tp tank was better then panzer I and Panzer II
There are rumors and stories thad one 7tp tank culd dystroy up to 3 german panzer II or I Before getting dystroyed.
( Panzer III where better but at thad time germans still used panzer I and II on mass )

[@polishscribe674]

For all I know 7TP was just slightly better than Panzer II, having thicker armor, regular cannon instead of smaller automatic variant, diesel engine that was more reliable and although slower in the road it did better in uneven terrain tanks were supposed to fight in and the first ever 360 degree periscope in a tank. The Germans had the advantage of having radios in each tank instead of just officer variants and numerical advantage. *the 3:1 ratio you said propably came out of better trained crew, as generally speaking polish soldiers were more trained and experienced than german soldiers.*

[@Quentof]

During Operation Barbarossa Germans used some of captured TKS and TK3 tankettes as support and reconnaissance vehicles but most of them were lost during first monts of constant fighting and broken engins.

[@galahad-history]

Love from Poland :)

[@zepter00]

Food material. Only
Polish 1st armoured division used Shermans, Sherman fireflys, Cromwels not Valentines, Stuarts, M10 tank destroyers, Sextons SPGs, M2 Half tracks and universal carriers.

[@ezequielmorales4221]

THE TRACKED HUSSARS ARRI...Nah, it doesn't work with this.

[@daddust]

The Soviet 1st Polish army didnt actually fight for Berlin despite the myths. Also you didnt mention what the slaughter that Maczek’s division inflicted at Falaise, a legendary battle.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

Any sources for the 1st Polish Army not participating in the Battle for Berlin (to be distinguished from the battle in Berlin)?
We didn't go into any detail for any of the forces fighting under Allied or Soviet control because we believe that is a topic for a different video. That is why we just mention them briefly.

[@mareksicinski3726]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT I mean there were almost 250k of them in the west at peak to note so indeed a broad topic

[@narodwpsanialy1940]

That's DEFINITELY not true. pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Armia_Wojska_Polskiego#Operacja_berli%C5%84ska

[@markolysynchuk5264]

I think if the 10TP project was a success, Poland would have more of a chance against Germany, as this is a huge step up from the 7TP and TKS-20 Poles had.

[@theromanorder]

Im probably going to sound like an idiot especially since ive been learning this kind of thing for a a while but.. whats a tanket?

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

Oh boy. Colloquially, it's a "very small tank without a turret", which is a very wrong definition.
Historically, they were thought up by a British dude called Martel who intended them to be very small very cheap vehicles to mechanize the infantry, a concept which would eventually morph into the British carriers.
Most famously however, this morphed into the Vickers-Carden-Loyd, who were the ones that employed the term most widely for marketing and sold these vehicles to a lot of countries exactly as 'very cheap tank-replacements', in which role they were extremely unsuccessful. The Poles and Czechoslovaks took this concept to its extremes with vehicles like the T-32, TKD or TKW.
The 'tankette' also arrived in France, were it morphed into a resupply-only vehicle called a chenillette (such as the Renault UE or Lorraine 37L).
And the most such vehicles were built by the Soviets as the T-27, who seem to have used them for reconnaissance and policing in Central Asia.

[@theromanorder]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT thanks do u think u could do a quick TH-cam short video basically u reading what u just said

[@TheRezro]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT Yeh. Defining Tankette as light tank is quite inaccurate. Though definition changed several times. The best way to define them is as small tanklike infantry support vehicle. Most of them were armed in machine-guns only or low caliber cannons. Though yes. Some early proper tanks also, but that changed over time.

[@Rugia-ox7hx]

If the hussars were like Polish armour of '39 then no one would even mention them.

[@GreatPolishWingedHussars]

Just because of the title “tracked Hussars!” I give it a thumbs up! Although I wouldn't agree with everything that was said.

[@poggyfroggy_isntmine4596]

I beg that they eventually add Poland tech tree to war thunder, or even sub tree

[@jackray1337]

thanks

[@munchnerkindl7480]

Very interesting.👍

[@mrsaturdaynightspecial3055]

Only if they had built the Christie's

[@zepter00]

7TP was superior than Panzer III

[@Pneuma2000]

nie był

[@Boskov01]

"WHEN THE TRACKED HUSSARS ARRIVED!!!"
They got yeeted.

[@sage2308]

👍

[@mlaatrpl435]

❤

[@tristansantucci3149]

sample text

[@ShopeeMarketteam]

"S. J. Zalonga"

[@Theduckwebcomics]

You really have to specify "Polish Winged hussars" for this kind of metaphor or it's a nonsense. Hussars are light cavalry and have been for over 400 years in armies all over the world from Japan to Russia to the USA to Chile etc, whereas the Polish winged hussars were a heavy cavalry that only existed in that country for a relatively brief period of time historically.

[@mareksicinski3726]

Interesting moment to be both pedantic and wrong. No it isn’t you absolute goober. Winged Hussars refers to only one thing, ie the only units known as the winged hussars, affiliated with thee Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth
Hussar or ‘Gusar’ meant different things in different places at different times, it originated in Hungary and the Balkans as light cavalry. Winged hussars or ‘husaria’ refers to these heaviest cavalry units in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
And a couple hundred years is not a brief time compared to the time the term hussar has been used, makes up a significant part

[@TheRezro]

@@mareksicinski3726 Also Winged Hussar were more like modern MBT. They started as light Hussar-style cavalry. But over time were uparmed with equipment from demobilized Lancer units (what were too heavy for Polish environment) ending with unit what was light enough to perform duty of Hussar (Winged Hussars commonly needed rapidly move between two distant borders of Poland), when at the same time heavy enough to operate during Lance charges. It is why they were the best.

[@Chky40]

first

[@daddust]

I think you could do with reference to some proper sources, not just websites. You refer too much to fanboi stories and wiki, full of inaccuracies and myths. For instance general Maczek BEFORE WW1 needs to be talked about.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

First off, did you actually look at our sources list? Or did you just look at the sources for the photos on the screen and thought that is what we used for info sources?
If you'll look, 11 books and just 1 website (and a good one at that).
As for Maczek before WWI, why would we look at that in our WWII video? That's a different topic for a different video (planned to be done in the far future)