@@shuucuz genuinely curious, were you suffering from some sort of temporary blindness during that game? Do me a favour, google umpiring calls 2016 afl grand final
Commenting before i watch the video, assuming this whole video will just be the 2016 grand final when the dogs were allowed to drop, throw, duck their way to the win ? the only GF in history where the AFL had to come out and apologize after the game
Um maybe cause we are relevant in all these videos that talk about finals footy... you know finals footy? Can you even remember watching your team play in September....
It bewilders how they go on about the play on call in 2023 but no one ever talks about how lions scored their first goal from a smother that's offside at the mark.
Yeah I’ve heard Rocca’s one was a goal from most people who were at the game, but some said it was line ball and/or went over top of the goal post (which is a point). With Wayne Harmes, was definitely in, but Pies supporters will always complain. 😝
Eastern wood diving for the ball injury to Dan the rule states contact below the knee if you watch it properly contact is made on the thigh. Correct decision made yeah it sucks there was an injury but contact made above the knee
The 2005 grand final where Leo Barry took the mark to finish the game. In the same marking contest Ashley Sampi was clearly held by the jumper to stop him getting a jump at the ball by his Sydney opponent. Missed on the day by the umpires and by every single commentator since whenever they replay the moment.
And just before that play dean cox pushed Jason ball to take the mark and kick it into that contest so maybe time to not be biased and realise the eagles were lucky to even have another inside 50 at all …
@MrPeteybelljr lol cracks me up how people go on about this, meth in no way at all will increase performance in fact it does the total opposite. Also it wasn't the whole team, it was 5 of them.
To be fair I'm pretty sure I count at least 3 frees in that one marking contest, two to WCE and one to Sydney. Bloody hard to sort out a pack like that in the moment.
I’m an Eagles fan and that’s BS… Sydney were the better team and I give Leo Barry full credit for his game winning mark. They are 100% flag winners in 2005. Don’t do the salty loser crap. Don’t sink as low as Pie fans like with their excuses about our win in 2018. Try and have a higher standard then those flogs 👍
2016 grand final was won by the dogs the week prior. The momentum was behind them it didn’t matter what happened the dogs weren’t losing. No excuse for losing to 7th in a grand final. Swans notoriously sht the bed on the big stage. Can’t really blame the umpiring for the swans losing so dramatically to an under equipped side with an inexperienced coach And majority of players having played less then 50 games. To blame the umpiring for that win is kinda silly. Free kick counts have been proven to mean jack Sht and usually first to the ball (which if you actually rewatch game) you’ll see dogs were first to the ball most of the time and usually they get rewarded free kicks. So many cry babies blaming umpires for there teams Sht performances I’m not a dogs supporter unfortunately a west coast fan.
Jeez you were really reaching in the 2017 one 😂. Eddie 100% held but the other two they chose to take the advantage and were caught? Do you know the rules at all
Free kick count is flawed, yes you can point out individual incidents as you did, but to use a free kick differential, you lose credibility It doesn't matter what the differential is, as long as the calls were correct
exactly The Crows missed out because that goal wasn't paid, clearly was a goal The big difference: Swans played finals the Crows didn't umpires are definitely affecting the scores I wonder, are there messages being sent to the umps because of betting agencies? The AFL has basically made it illegal to question an umpire Since that started some 20 years ago, games have been quite questionable As for the fans, 50% will always be happy their team won as for the losers, well, any complaints are seen as 'posties'
2018 was rigged. They just built a new stadium in Perth and the best way for selling memberships is too be champions.. the final siren the commentator mentions the new stadium 😢
@@beardbuilds5140 it's actually embarrassing that he's even allowed to umpire swans games. 2012 grand final was another example, it was clear as day from the stands that every free against the swans was at the whistle of stevic
Ignoring Rocca's point, Collingwood got an absolute armchair ride from the umps that day in 2002. Jason Akermanis ended up copping a 5k fine for pointing out Collingwood getting so many goals from soft frees to the media.
@sports78443 and have the most total wins, most finals wins , made the most grandfinals, equal most premierships, highest winning % all time... oh yeah and highest average crowd attendance every year....
Thanks Kaleen awesome video and boy O Boy have I got a final for you that was stuffed up by the umpires well really an umpire. It's the 2001 Preliminary Final Essendon vs Hawthorn it all happened in the first quarter 8:00 minute mark Free to Alessio that was a behind 9:30 Alessio shoved Rehn in the back at a throw in takes the ball and goals no free kick 11:30 another week free kick to Barnard another behind 16:50 free to Alessio for holding the man goal 22:40 Heffernan looks to be caught holding the ball umpire paid in the back and another goal 23:50 Mc Cabe spoils Rioli but has momentarily grabbed his jumper ended in another goal. The end score is Essendon 11. 10. 76 to Hawthorn 9. 13. 67 hope you can check it out and see what you think 🤔
Not to mention Cox's mark of the year on the goal line, goal umpire signalled is behind, field umpire overruled and declared it a goal. It really felt like the umpires had been given a directive to get Essendon into the GF.
@@clanrunner that's definitely the way it looked at the time the umpires tired to get Essendon in The Grand Final. Is that the last time that Essendon won a final?
In 2018 gf ,that def was a block and the umps the following year started paying frees for blocking just like that ,and he also played on ,2 howlers that cost us ,carn the pies
that wasn’t advantage , obviously. but 1 they never said who’s ball it was just blew a whistle and when bailey kicked the ball he got called high. this should of been a down felid free to the closest forward .
Dude the bulldogs deserve it we only have 2 cut us some slack Sydney may have had the longest afl drought in history but they still have 5 premierships and would’ve been 6 but the dogs got their 2nd
So you're saying because your team is incapable of winning a premiership that grants them the justice to cheat another more capable team so they can win?
I don't think the 2023 grand final would've changed, the freekick was 60 out and Collingwood's defence that quarter was sublime. Definitely odd that Bailey didn't hear the whistle from a few metres away.
5:09 pause and you clearly see Maynard is intended on body contact to keep Riolo from marking and used being blocked as an excuse because he didn't see Sheed and no one else manned him up. Play the video in .25 speed at 5:23-5:25 and you see Maynard goes to jostle position with Riolo, instead of coming forward to intercept the mark over Sheed. Also the Tom Hawkins poster was a blunder, but you can't prove how the course of the remaining game time would have played out 🤔
I was supporting Bulldogs in 2016 but agree they got the better of the decisions. In 2018, the block non-decision in the final minutes was disgraceful. Collingwood should won.
Can you review the giants Richmond 2019 grand final. Even though they didn't make a difference in the final result, from a giants fans perspective, it looked like there were multiple bad calls against us
Sydney crying the ONE TIME they didn't get 20+ more free kicks than the other team :D If it wasn't for the umpires Sydney would still have the longest drought in AFL history, didn't even do the AFL any good, they are still a season or two away from failing again and having to move somewhere else.......AGAIN
Someone has no idea what they're on about, Swans have had one of the worst free kick differentials in the league for at least the last decade. But don't let facts get in the way of a good bias eh?
could have just played the entire 2016 grand final tbh. One of the most horrifically officiated games i have watched.
it was fairly umpired
@@shuucuz genuinely curious, were you suffering from some sort of temporary blindness during that game? Do me a favour, google umpiring calls 2016 afl grand final
@@kovaci0000007 Obviously a Dirty Dogs supporter. No one that isn't completely one-eyed would call that game fair.
@@shuucuz no it wasn’t but at least was good that Bulldogs won
Keep sooking champ was one of the greatest umpired games I've seen bulldogs far more disciplined every free kick was there
That atkins holding the ball is disgusting. There's a tackler on him as he's receiving???
maybe the wrong call but it does not turn around a 48 point deficit
@@TigerTime it doesn't help
Commenting before i watch the video, assuming this whole video will just be the 2016 grand final when the dogs were allowed to drop, throw, duck their way to the win ? the only GF in history where the AFL had to come out and apologize after the game
Pies fans complain about anything to be honost
Stick to Fortnite
@@nithikaFNytohhhhhh
@@nithikaFNytu got fortinite videos buddy
@@Donz4lifefr
Um maybe cause we are relevant in all these videos that talk about finals footy... you know finals footy? Can you even remember watching your team play in September....
2016 whole game cheated.
Every time Collingwood lose something they say it’s rigged
That's big coming from a bluey. 😂
@@RIVAL30388 hah
Last time, carlton won they had to cheat the salary cap.
@@RIVAL30388it’s true and you know it
@@SomeGeekFromTwitterdid anyone ask ?
ohhh poor Maynard, what a dog. hack of a player too
Crows v swans may as well been a grand final
I was sitting on the wing right behind Rocca’s kick. It was definitely a goal. And I’m a Carlton supporter!!
It bewilders how they go on about the play on call in 2023 but no one ever talks about how lions scored their first goal from a smother that's offside at the mark.
2016 though geez
People always say the umpires favour Collingwood but they have been robbed in so many grand finals
are u a collingwood fan?
cuz thats what a collingwood fan would say
They've been in like 35% of all grand finals ..
TOILET GANG
@@CaptainQuoll W
I’m just gonna put it out there, whenever Collingwood loses it’s ‘rigged’, take a loss, you’ve already done well to get to a grand final
Yeah I’ve heard Rocca’s one was a goal from most people who were at the game, but some said it was line ball and/or went over top of the goal post (which is a point).
With Wayne Harmes, was definitely in, but Pies supporters will always complain. 😝
Eastern wood diving for the ball injury to Dan the rule states contact below the knee if you watch it properly contact is made on the thigh. Correct decision made yeah it sucks there was an injury but contact made above the knee
The 2005 grand final where Leo Barry took the mark to finish the game. In the same marking contest Ashley Sampi was clearly held by the jumper to stop him getting a jump at the ball by his Sydney opponent. Missed on the day by the umpires and by every single commentator since whenever they replay the moment.
And just before that play dean cox pushed Jason ball to take the mark and kick it into that contest so maybe time to not be biased and realise the eagles were lucky to even have another inside 50 at all …
That west coast side was doped up on meth anyway, should have been sanctioned.
@MrPeteybelljr lol cracks me up how people go on about this, meth in no way at all will increase performance in fact it does the total opposite. Also it wasn't the whole team, it was 5 of them.
To be fair I'm pretty sure I count at least 3 frees in that one marking contest, two to WCE and one to Sydney. Bloody hard to sort out a pack like that in the moment.
I’m an Eagles fan and that’s BS… Sydney were the better team and I give Leo Barry full credit for his game winning mark. They are 100% flag winners in 2005. Don’t do the salty loser crap.
Don’t sink as low as Pie fans like with their excuses about our win in 2018. Try and have a higher standard then those flogs 👍
2018 gf may have been a block but there were plenty of bad calls the other way that day too
Not a big fan of the 2021 grandfinal but most free kicks were gifted to Melbourne
How did they rob Rocca like that? Disgusting
Salty collingwood supporters
@@toxicpoison-j8t I barrack for the cats
I've been critical of your speech patterns in the past, but you have clearly been working on this and you sound much better
Love it bro x
2023 granny had a questionable non call in Brisbane’s fwd 50 in the last minute of the match
2018 was not ruined
Lucky we have perfect players 😳
2005 GF, Ashley Sampi.
2016 grand final was won by the dogs the week prior. The momentum was behind them it didn’t matter what happened the dogs weren’t losing. No excuse for losing to 7th in a grand final. Swans notoriously sht the bed on the big stage. Can’t really blame the umpiring for the swans losing so dramatically to an under equipped side with an inexperienced coach And majority of players having played less then 50 games. To blame the umpiring for that win is kinda silly. Free kick counts have been proven to mean jack Sht and usually first to the ball (which if you actually rewatch game) you’ll see dogs were first to the ball most of the time and usually they get rewarded free kicks. So many cry babies blaming umpires for there teams Sht performances
I’m not a dogs supporter unfortunately a west coast fan.
lol. when the game was in the balance all decisions went the dogs way.
You must go for Collingwood
Scott jefferey is my coach
It wasnt a block
Need a video of every match in the last 5 years when Richmond have been robbed by the umpires
2016 takes the cake. There has never been a grand final umpired so one sided.
Jeez you were really reaching in the 2017 one 😂. Eddie 100% held but the other two they chose to take the advantage and were caught? Do you know the rules at all
Free kick count is flawed, yes you can point out individual incidents as you did, but to use a free kick differential, you lose credibility
It doesn't matter what the differential is, as long as the calls were correct
you should do crows against sydney from last year
boss im pretty sure the grand final last year was not crows against sydney
damn can't believe i missed the crows v swans grand final last year, who won?
exactly
The Crows missed out because that goal wasn't paid, clearly was a goal
The big difference: Swans played finals the Crows didn't
umpires are definitely affecting the scores
I wonder, are there messages being sent to the umps because of betting agencies?
The AFL has basically made it illegal to question an umpire
Since that started some 20 years ago, games have been quite questionable
As for the fans, 50% will always be happy their team won
as for the losers, well, any complaints are seen as 'posties'
f u all go pies umpires were doing the right thing not collingwoods fault brisbane didn't pay enough attetion GO PIES!
Obviously a Collingwood supporter
Stop arguing yall it’s in the past lmao
2018 was rigged. They just built a new stadium in Perth and the best way for selling memberships is too be champions.. the final siren the commentator mentions the new stadium 😢
You're joking right?
you're actually braindead lmao, the whole league is rigged against non victorian clubs
Nah, remember why the only reason vfl turned into afl because it was broke.
Do a video on how many times the Swans have won the free kick count with Stevic umpiring. i guarantee you it's less then a handful
I’ll go you one better and say it’s sub 3
@@beardbuilds5140 it's actually embarrassing that he's even allowed to umpire swans games. 2012 grand final was another example, it was clear as day from the stands that every free against the swans was at the whistle of stevic
Ignoring Rocca's point, Collingwood got an absolute armchair ride from the umps that day in 2002. Jason Akermanis ended up copping a 5k fine for pointing out Collingwood getting so many goals from soft frees to the media.
@@Adam-dm1se salty
@@Adam-dm1se bandwagon
@@Adam-dm1se You probably go for GWS I wouldnt be talking
@sports78443 and have the most total wins, most finals wins , made the most grandfinals, equal most premierships, highest winning % all time... oh yeah and highest average crowd attendance every year....
Thanks Kaleen awesome video and boy O Boy have I got a final for you that was stuffed up by the umpires well really an umpire. It's the 2001 Preliminary Final Essendon vs Hawthorn it all happened in the first quarter 8:00 minute mark Free to Alessio that was a behind 9:30 Alessio shoved Rehn in the back at a throw in takes the ball and goals no free kick 11:30 another week free kick to Barnard another behind 16:50 free to Alessio for holding the man goal 22:40 Heffernan looks to be caught holding the ball umpire paid in the back and another goal 23:50 Mc Cabe spoils Rioli but has momentarily grabbed his jumper ended in another goal. The end score is Essendon 11. 10. 76 to Hawthorn 9. 13. 67 hope you can check it out and see what you think 🤔
Not to mention Cox's mark of the year on the goal line, goal umpire signalled is behind, field umpire overruled and declared it a goal. It really felt like the umpires had been given a directive to get Essendon into the GF.
@@clanrunner that's definitely the way it looked at the time the umpires tired to get Essendon in The Grand Final. Is that the last time that Essendon won a final?
Yes
In 2018 gf ,that def was a block and the umps the following year started paying frees for blocking just like that ,and he also played on ,2 howlers that cost us ,carn the pies
that wasn’t advantage , obviously. but 1 they never said who’s ball it was just blew a whistle and when bailey kicked the ball he got called high. this should of been a down felid free to the closest forward .
@@Sauraus1 still should've been a free from the 50 for an exellent set shot player
Dude the bulldogs deserve it we only have 2 cut us some slack Sydney may have had the longest afl drought in history but they still have 5 premierships and would’ve been 6 but the dogs got their 2nd
So they deserved to cheat the swans out of a premiership because they had a premiership drought? Dumbest take I've ever read hahah
@@kovaci0000007 Average AFL watcher innit
Ok fair enough but even so cut us some slack at the end of the day Sydney already have 5
So you're saying because your team is incapable of winning a premiership that grants them the justice to cheat another more capable team so they can win?
@@jameskulisiewicz4329 at this point the dogs weren’t even cheating the umpires were just blind and even so the dogs would’ve still won
I don't think the 2023 grand final would've changed, the freekick was 60 out and Collingwood's defence that quarter was sublime. Definitely odd that Bailey didn't hear the whistle from a few metres away.
Literally
you dont think a free kick 60 out with a minute to go changes anything? ifit was lollingwood everyone would be crying as per
5:09 pause and you clearly see Maynard is intended on body contact to keep Riolo from marking and used being blocked as an excuse because he didn't see Sheed and no one else manned him up. Play the video in .25 speed at 5:23-5:25 and you see Maynard goes to jostle position with Riolo, instead of coming forward to intercept the mark over Sheed. Also the Tom Hawkins poster was a blunder, but you can't prove how the course of the remaining game time would have played out 🤔
no maynard has his eyes on sheed when Rioli blocked him
Play the whole video at .25 so you can just sit there and have a think about how big of a malaka you really are...
I was supporting Bulldogs in 2016 but agree they got the better of the decisions.
In 2018, the block non-decision in the final minutes was disgraceful. Collingwood should won.
Geelong won in 2009 by 12 points not "by 6 points if you don't count the last goal"
Can you review the giants Richmond 2019 grand final. Even though they didn't make a difference in the final result, from a giants fans perspective, it looked like there were multiple bad calls against us
Didn't you lose by 100?
Actually it was 89
If the players were as perfect as they expect the umpires to be they would not need umpires!!
Sydney crying the ONE TIME they didn't get 20+ more free kicks than the other team :D If it wasn't for the umpires Sydney would still have the longest drought in AFL history, didn't even do the AFL any good, they are still a season or two away from failing again and having to move somewhere else.......AGAIN
You are talking about the best team in the comp right now right?
You're a kook mate. Swans rarely win the free count, despite being one of the best performing teams in the AFL for the past 20 years
Someone has no idea what they're on about, Swans have had one of the worst free kick differentials in the league for at least the last decade. But don't let facts get in the way of a good bias eh?
probably the worst attempt at trolling i have ever read in my life. I have second hand embarrassment for you