If Chun goes from best in the game to low tier that's not a balance patch, that's a revenge list. "I hate you. But I love this character, so let's give you all this."
She’s actually generally better. She has real combos and a wall bounce from kikoken. She just lost a couple of things. I think it’s still another dumb change 4th could have done better but it’s not the stupidest thing they did.
With how much damage Ryu deals (and how much damage he seems to take), it feels like they put Evil Ryu in the game and just forgot to point out that he's evil.
I’m not sure exactly which version he’s playing but I think it’s a version where they accidentally buffed Ryu too much. It amusingly makes Alex’s arcade mode have a really weird difficulty curve where Ryu is much harder than Gill (partly because the changes made to playable Gill also apply to the boss)
I like some of the ideas for this mod (like Sean having safer attacks, the new Ryu supers), but then stuff like U Sean or Ken's fireball nerfs feel weird. It's interesting tho
I like to imagine every time he finishes a set at EVO he runs back home to record, then once he's done with THAT set he runs back to EVO, rinse and repeat
@@kennymccormick8295 No way man, I was just watching some sets from 2018 and I know Justin has that DeLorean ready to go. Zip zap zoom, 121 jiggawatts and Justin Wong is ready to fight everyone at any time, any where, any year. This is very silly...
Been waiting for you to check this mod out, love how there's so many unique ways they chose to balance everyone, like making a charge shawn and pretty much reworking Gill from the ground up
i'm a beta tester for 4rd strike, we trynna find bugs and such rn, i hope you play more, so many things have changed in 4rd, the game is fun almost all the chrs have 2 supers, there's custom palmodded outfits made for 4rd and every stage has changed
I would love to see a 3rd strike modding tool be made one of these days kinda like rivals where you can edit existing characters or put in your own stuff. Definitely won't be for a long time though apparently this game is really hard to mod.
@@sketchditty1054 i am no modder but i can tell you that modding a game like this takes ages and the time between patch releases is pretty long even if its a smol change like meter length
what I had a idea of something like this also called 4th strike where it would be a new and improved version of 3rd strike with new stages all returning stages coming back you can choose to be 2nd impact Sean vs a new generation Ryu and there would be some new characters balances, new trials, new supers and new specials being a mix of a new game, the 15th anniversary game and ultra sf2 literally 2 hours before this video came up
I love the idea of this but the modders could've come up with a more creative name, surely? -New Generation -2nd Impact -3rd Strike -4th... uhhh... Strike. Ship it!
Technically one modder did this and there are two versions of 4rd Strike. 4th and 4rd. 4th is the first version which is horribly unbalanced. 4rd is this one which adds new moves and fixes a lot of the low tier characters like Twelve.
Hey, this game looks familiar… I actually TAS this game on my channel! It’s kind of become my thing now lol, if you wanted to watch a few of them I’d be more than happy to let you do that! (I even have a combo video! It’s 45 minutes too so lots to see!)
I'd like to see more old games given this balance mod treatment. MvC2 & CvS2 would be the ideal game to do it with, but something like I dunno, Jojo HFTF would be a good starting point?
I find these mods to old games more interesting than I do most new games. Seeing all the characters added to MvC3 and fourth strike among others. Such awesome stuff.
2 bars cuz you have 2 Kick supers, or sacrifice them all for 1 MAX super, the order goes this way: SA1 MAX = Timestop SA2 MAX = Meteor strike SA3 MAX = Seraphic wing
3S crouching opponent take significantly more damage. Dudley at the 3 hit combo from Ryu crouching. This is a good balance to people abusing low parry.
WIth all of these weird games and patches, i would love to see Justin try Fate Unlimited Codes. It's like the meme said: Fate Unlimited Codes Is A Highly Complex Fighting Game. What I'm not so sure about is attracting actual Fate fans. Even us weeaboos are afraid of THOSE guys.
Reminder he was probably playing on, like, level 4 CPU. And no human will allow j.HP cl.HP HK Donkey over and over against them. To be honest, from TASing the game and playing it, I think it’s alright. (Also, does that imply you think 3S is balanced? Because… Mm. While it’s a fun game, I can’t agree with that one.)
@@MacAves Never said nor implied that. I was going by what I saw and what Wong said. Ryu doing that much dmg 2 combo= death that's very balanced. As for my personal full opinion I like the moves added and stuff but I wouldn't dumb down the bosses other than that still my favorite SF until SF6
@@Skyte777 I mean, I think dumbing down the bosses was fine. It essentially added an entirely new character to the game, Gill is pretty unique. He’s kind of like a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none type character. He can still be good, but it’s not just… he hits you with a cr.HP and you die. Can’t really go wrong with more competitive options, y’know?
@@MacAves How is that competitive when the character is dumbest down? Especially when a pro player is calling this out? That let's you know it is competitive. They took away what originally made him unique and hard in the first place. That's like Bison with no psycho power. Yes it's different but then you can do that with every character and really have just a whole new character or pretty much a mugen game.
@@Skyte777 who said hes weak? Gill may be dumbed down but he's got new tools as compensation! Being a LITERAL "jack of all trades" in a game like 4rd is quite mind bending cuz you now have different playstyles (although with limits). We're talking about the SAME CHARACTER that has TIMESTOP as his trump card, this already says a lot.
Commenting a lame fighting game pun/joke every day until Justin does the SFEX+α Taru and SFEX3 trials. Day 133: I'd say that Quan Chi's Fatality isn't the best one in the entire series, but then I'd be pulling your leg.
@@Ash__Adler Course he couldnt use it, he didnt go near Gill in general cuz hes too busy playing RYU on ARCADE MODE and that was all he did, nothing more! Remember this is him just "checking out" the game, this not an "in-depth" playthrough and seeing all changes and stuff, there's a difference.
@@mabooooyleatherface.1044 Subjective opinion needed there. Most 3S diehards hate it because -they hate when anything happens to their favorite game- “it doesn’t feel right.” I really like it personally, it’s fresh and interesting, considering it only came out in 2014. Edit: Wrong word usage
If Chun goes from best in the game to low tier that's not a balance patch, that's a revenge list. "I hate you. But I love this character, so let's give you all this."
you have to check the move list she has it but it's a command normal now. so idk if I would say she trash
She’s actually generally better. She has real combos and a wall bounce from kikoken. She just lost a couple of things. I think it’s still another dumb change 4th could have done better but it’s not the stupidest thing they did.
@@Neogears1312 ???
@@Neogears1312 4th strike changes looks very dumb and random, not gonna lie…
dude, 3rd strike is unbalanced as hell. It's great to see people attempting to balance it. This is amazing.
With how much damage Ryu deals (and how much damage he seems to take), it feels like they put Evil Ryu in the game and just forgot to point out that he's evil.
I’m not sure exactly which version he’s playing but I think it’s a version where they accidentally buffed Ryu too much. It amusingly makes Alex’s arcade mode have a really weird difficulty curve where Ryu is much harder than Gill (partly because the changes made to playable Gill also apply to the boss)
Never let this guy learn about crouch damage bonus
I like some of the ideas for this mod (like Sean having safer attacks, the new Ryu supers), but then stuff like U Sean or Ken's fireball nerfs feel weird. It's interesting tho
I love How Justin is consistently posting videos while beating people UP at evo
It's almost like someone else is uploading them or he's got the uploads on an automatic schedule.
@@kennymccormick8295 quase
I like to imagine every time he finishes a set at EVO he runs back home to record, then once he's done with THAT set he runs back to EVO, rinse and repeat
@@Lime30373 That's how he beat the General while he had Covid
@@kennymccormick8295 No way man, I was just watching some sets from 2018 and I know Justin has that DeLorean ready to go. Zip zap zoom, 121 jiggawatts and Justin Wong is ready to fight everyone at any time, any where, any year.
This is very silly...
With this in fightcade would absolutely love to see some online matches in this just to see what people can do with these changed up characters!
It's alreasy on fightcade
And nobody is playing, thank god
@@Otherfabbros you don't like it?
Been waiting for you to check this mod out, love how there's so many unique ways they chose to balance everyone, like making a charge shawn and pretty much reworking Gill from the ground up
It’s cool to watch JWong adapt and learn (and crush it) in real time
É muito legal
i'm a beta tester for 4rd strike, we trynna find bugs and such rn, i hope you play more, so many things have changed in 4rd, the game is fun almost all the chrs have 2 supers, there's custom palmodded outfits made for 4rd and every stage has changed
I would love to see a 3rd strike modding tool be made one of these days kinda like rivals where you can edit existing characters or put in your own stuff. Definitely won't be for a long time though apparently this game is really hard to mod.
Thanks for doing that. Seems like a good game so far
@@sketchditty1054 i am no modder but i can tell you that modding a game like this takes ages and the time between patch releases is pretty long even if its a smol change like meter length
Ryu does WAY too much damage.
Where do you get the game roms?
The boss is wearing a speedo, he doesn't need to be hard too.
bro please check out more of this. i could watch you play fourth strike for a good few hours
Sim você consegue
what I had a idea of something like this also called 4th strike where it would be a new and improved version of 3rd strike with new stages all returning stages coming back you can choose to be 2nd impact Sean vs a new generation Ryu and there would be some new characters balances, new trials, new supers and new specials being a mix of a new game, the 15th anniversary game and ultra sf2 literally 2 hours before this video came up
I love the idea of this but the modders could've come up with a more creative name, surely?
-New Generation
-2nd Impact
-3rd Strike
-4th... uhhh... Strike. Ship it!
Technically one modder did this and there are two versions of 4rd Strike. 4th and 4rd. 4th is the first version which is horribly unbalanced. 4rd is this one which adds new moves and fixes a lot of the low tier characters like Twelve.
Don't read so much into a joke comment.
you forgot giant attack
@@gaspump If it was a joke. It wasn't a very good one.
Uh... newER generation?
I like some of the ideas here, maybe you could give the team behind this some feedback
Damn! Looks like U.Sean's been training with Ralf and the Ikari Warriors 😳😳😳!!!
For sure.
They made sf3-era ryu jump to gouken tier with that damage and stun.
Hey, this game looks familiar… I actually TAS this game on my channel! It’s kind of become my thing now lol, if you wanted to watch a few of them I’d be more than happy to let you do that! (I even have a combo video! It’s 45 minutes too so lots to see!)
TAS GIGACHAD DETECTED!!!
I'd like to see more old games given this balance mod treatment. MvC2 & CvS2 would be the ideal game to do it with, but something like I dunno, Jojo HFTF would be a good starting point?
Justin is always getting better and it shows.
i would really love to know what stick your using in each vid. it is an added insight.
I find these mods to old games more interesting than I do most new games. Seeing all the characters added to MvC3 and fourth strike among others. Such awesome stuff.
Great video! More 4th strike!!!
Sean gas is old alley oop dunk move , they should have never gotten rid of that
One thing about DC 3s I love was the ability to mess with the gaming mechanics. Having everything connect is super fun lol like mvc2 but 3s.
Nice "thocking" sound on the controller. What are you using here Justin?
I think Ryu was meant to hit hard with his normal strikes.
1:47 Ultra Sean's Super Art
Justin at home and at Evo....my man got dat Kage Bushin No Jutsu mastered like no other.
Makes me want to see Sean in sf6 even more.
About time we have ryu as god tier in a game
7:58 had me cryinggg
Last time I was this early, it was called 4rd Strike.
Interesting mod, I like what they did with Sean, except the fact that he's a charge char now.
Sean is still a normal command character, U.SEAN is the charge one
@@alo7712 Ah, I didn't knew there were two Seans. Thanks.
NEAT! Ryu doing all the juice in this version
the editing on this video was funny as fuck
Love the Pokémon intro music
Ken tatsu like SF2 Turbo. Game changing moving back then.
Take you a long while before you noticed eh Justin? I am glad that my 4rd Strike TAS Superplays and changes video showcase did something at least.
Yesss Justin found 4rd Strike
Ryu out here hitting like semi.
7:51 🤣🤣🤣
=)
Please make more content on 4rd!
Man they completely changed everything
I remember suggesting this game to you ..🤣this game is cracked in the head
Aw they should've made Gill's resurrection 2 bars instead of removing it completely
2 bars cuz you have 2 Kick supers, or sacrifice them all for 1 MAX super, the order goes this way:
SA1 MAX = Timestop
SA2 MAX = Meteor strike
SA3 MAX = Seraphic wing
Gill without resurrection is more a like a special character of the roaster that a boss
Ryu OP AF in this version...
6:06 - that looks similar to Takuma's KOF finishing move.
7:52 😂
You should see U. Sean's SA2, it's crazier than his SA3
3S crouching opponent take significantly more damage. Dudley at the 3 hit combo from Ryu crouching. This is a good balance to people abusing low parry.
8:21 Gill flips
I looked up Street Fighter 3: 4th Strike on Wikipedia and it doesn't exist.
search it up on google lmaooooooo
Q in this version has some cool moves.
5:55 It Really did...
There is another new version of 3s coming in fightcade! Is widescreen hack, by Bank Bank, same guy from kof98 and mvc2 ratio hacks
If im not mistaken, "U.Sean" means "Ura Sean". I dont know what "Ura" means tho.
1:48-1:51 *Ultimate Sean Tackle*
So there is 4th Strike and 4rd Strike? What is the difference then?
4th strike is a weirder game. Tho the rebalance game that Jwong is playing is 4rd Strike
@@Supcio6073Clips Thanks man.
We need a 5th strike
TY
Ryu's Shin Shoryuken damage output is like MVC1 version of.
Doing Hugo's SA1 is still hard
Change da world my final message. Goodb ye
WIth all of these weird games and patches, i would love to see Justin try Fate Unlimited Codes. It's like the meme said: Fate Unlimited Codes Is A Highly Complex Fighting Game.
What I'm not so sure about is attracting actual Fate fans. Even us weeaboos are afraid of THOSE guys.
You should try 4rd strike its alot more refined
here because of Maximilian Dood stream 2/22/23 lol
More 4th strike vids!
7:53 Soulja boy lol
Why’d they make Ryu do so much damage?
Ultra Sean has no EX because he's actually a rework of the unused Shin Akuma.
Aawww I’m OD? Damn it… I thought I was OD. HahahahahahA…😂😂🤭😂
5:04 Ryu Gorasen
even though this is 3rd strike but i want to see dan because he my favorite shoto and same to chun li too
Sean of my dreams
This game doesn't seem balanced. Just seem they powered up their favorite character and dumbed down the AI and Bosses.
Reminder he was probably playing on, like, level 4 CPU. And no human will allow j.HP cl.HP HK Donkey over and over against them. To be honest, from TASing the game and playing it, I think it’s alright.
(Also, does that imply you think 3S is balanced? Because… Mm. While it’s a fun game, I can’t agree with that one.)
@@MacAves Never said nor implied that. I was going by what I saw and what Wong said. Ryu doing that much dmg 2 combo= death that's very balanced. As for my personal full opinion I like the moves added and stuff but I wouldn't dumb down the bosses other than that still my favorite SF until SF6
@@Skyte777 I mean, I think dumbing down the bosses was fine. It essentially added an entirely new character to the game, Gill is pretty unique. He’s kind of like a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none type character. He can still be good, but it’s not just… he hits you with a cr.HP and you die. Can’t really go wrong with more competitive options, y’know?
@@MacAves How is that competitive when the character is dumbest down? Especially when a pro player is calling this out? That let's you know it is competitive. They took away what originally made him unique and hard in the first place. That's like Bison with no psycho power. Yes it's different but then you can do that with every character and really have just a whole new character or pretty much a mugen game.
@@Skyte777 who said hes weak?
Gill may be dumbed down but he's got new tools as compensation! Being a LITERAL "jack of all trades" in a game like 4rd is quite mind bending cuz you now have different playstyles (although with limits).
We're talking about the SAME CHARACTER that has TIMESTOP as his trump card, this already says a lot.
finally Sean gets justice after sf3 2nd impact
Commenting a lame fighting game pun/joke every day until Justin does the SFEX+α Taru and SFEX3 trials.
Day 133:
I'd say that Quan Chi's Fatality isn't the best one in the entire series, but then I'd be pulling your leg.
finally my sean boy
All these useless patches on competitive games and still nobody has attempted to make a balanced Killer Instinct 1/2.
so this is ready to play in fightcade 2 or do i need to download a ROM/mod?
1:02 U.Sean? 🤨
Why Ryu out there doing Luke damage in that version?
It's Ford* Strike actually.
Justin check out sf2 mix on fightcade?
How do you select Ultra Sean??
how does makoto plays in this game?
Ryu out gil's gil lol. That damage is OD
Why would you take resurrection away from Gill? 🤔
Because its replaced with TIMESTOP, which is an objectively better option for a MAX super
Yeah, so much better that he didn't use it 🙃
@@Ash__Adler ?
my man was only playing ryu, ultra sean and chun, thats it.
your point?
My point is the theoretical power of a super that isn't used doesn't matter.
@@Ash__Adler Course he couldnt use it, he didnt go near Gill in general cuz hes too busy playing RYU on ARCADE MODE and that was all he did, nothing more!
Remember this is him just "checking out" the game, this not an "in-depth" playthrough and seeing all changes and stuff, there's a difference.
Twelve might be completely OD, he can just completely beat Chun-Li's SA2 with his Max SA3
Can u do rumble fish 1&2 very under rate game
I thought it was 4rd strike, not 4th strike?
Is this on fightcade?
Yep and there is a passionate discord server which would give you patch notes and other nitty gritties about the game
6:32
Is it better than third strike?
@@mabooooyleatherface.1044 Subjective opinion needed there. Most 3S diehards hate it because -they hate when anything happens to their favorite game- “it doesn’t feel right.” I really like it personally, it’s fresh and interesting, considering it only came out in 2014.
Edit: Wrong word usage
@@MacAves a "Objective opinion" is not a thing
Brooo you need to play the omega mode sf IV
5:20 """"""Balance changes"""""""
Gill resurrecting pisses me off...
This be kind of cursed tho
Ain’t no way
Bruh I been telling u about this
I'd love a patched Usf4 fixing Elena's damage
Ryu has always had mad damage it was just hard to get it
殺意ショーンみたいなのが居て草