Should Gas Stoves Be BANNED?
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- Should gas stoves be banned? What are the environmental and health impacts of gas appliances? And should you go electric? The truth might shock you!
There's been a lot of talk about a gas stove ban, thanks to a new report that found 13% of asthma cases in kids are caused by gas stoves specifically. Is it all controversy or are there genuine dangers and health impacts you should be worried about?
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Hmmm, I hate how loud the extraction fan is so I rarely use it. I think I will reconsider this position.
There are quieter options that are crazy effective but also crazy expensive. It's so effective and quiet that you have to consciously pay attention to the fact the noise level is not matching what you expect for the effectiveness. I have it on quiet mode and I can't smell the eggs I cook
you need to position it directly above the stove. if you positioned it elsewhere to make less noise, it won't be effective. i hope that clarifies the position issue.
Optionally run the bathroom fan that will create airflow exhaust outside.
Well... I checked it and the extraction doesn't go any where... it just blows around the room. I guess ill just open a window and run the bathroom fan.
@@PulseCodeMusic The point of these extraction hoods/fans is to only clean the air rising from the stove of the oily vapor from the food and also larger leftover particulates from the fire. They have replaceable charcoal filters inside them. Sadly this only helps so much.
I used to not have one and the walls and ceiling in the kitchen turned brownish yellow over a decade of using a gas stove. The hood with filter, that keeps circulating the air is significantly better than nothing, but for best results the air should be directed outside.
Today's fact: The collars on men's dress shirts used to be detachable. This was to save on laundry costs as the collar was the part that needed cleaning the most frequently.
very interesting!
Wait this is so cool. Why did we stop doing that?
@@khalilahd. Maybe because we invented washmachines that lower the work significantly
Hahaha wonder why👄💄
Should have had removable arm pits too. 😷
This was an interesting video. I have an air purifier and noticed it always switches to "high" 10-15 minutes after I start cooking dinner. I guess now I know why. (Edit: I have a gas range)
My Dyson does that too. Unless I cook on low-medium. It’ll also do it when I scoop cat litter and dust gets in the air
My turns on when i dust, clean, burp and fart
Does the air purify get rid off the cooking smell?
@@AdwaitBhagwat Yes BUT it gets stored in the filter, eventually it can make the house smell bad because of the stored smells in the filter. You can fix this by cleaning out the filter but don't depend on it.
@@TheLastSaneAmerican depends on the food. most people find the experience of food particles in the air to be quite pleasant, especially since food particles are not damaging to the lungs. combustion products on the other hand, such as smoking oil, burnt carbs/fats/proteins and burnt natural gas, are all toxic and carcinogenic. thats more important to purify.
One point against this that I havnt seen is the simple reliability, (I’m sure I’ll be corrected if wrong) but up north most houses use gas ovens and gas heaters, because when a winter storm or blizzard hits, losing power is common, but because gas lines are always underground they don’t freeze and always work under any conditions
I think you still need electricity to operate them.
I don't entirely know if you could manually lite a gas stove, I don't own one and wouldn't recommend trying it, but I believe there are safety features in place that keep it from just igniting from a hot outside source.
@@Movie16Master you can manually light a gas stove even if there is no electricity (aka with a match). you can also have heat when there is no electricity.
@@Movie16Master yeah idk about the last 5-10yrs of gas stoves but i know u can manually light the pilot lights on "older" ones.
wouldn't make much sense if you have no way to manually light the pilot to me, i imagine there's even some simple push button that mechanically makes a spark or something like that
This
@@Movie16Master you can just use a match or even a lighter to ignite gas stoves, it isn't rocket science.
Anyway if you are a smoker, a gas stove is in my opinion the least of your worries...
Luckily i use volcanic magma
If it's above ground it's called lava. Learned that from one of the bedtime books I read to my son; Oh, The Lava That Flows by Dr. Seuss.
@@volkoff6357 who said i used lava?
Well, I'll make sure to have the vent on now whenever I cook, that's for sure.
One of the reasons why I like having a gas stove is that I live in an area where there are sometimes power outages and it's reassuring to be able to cook and heat stuff even when the power is out.
Just remember to always keep a lighter or matches around
Isn't the starter electric?
@@tomiannucci2661 well, as someone who has quite an old stove, I just don't have a starter on it. Matches.
Retired electrical engineer here.
Studied power engineering.
Lot's of mistakes in this video.
Electric is nice if you live in a warm climate area. But there are people that live in very cold climates, and use the gas stove as backup heat. Without this ability, people die.
But more importantly....
An electric oven generates 3 times the co2 as a gas oven. shocking isn't it.
If you have a gas stove and use 1 gallon of propane a week to do your cooking, then convert to an electric oven, the power company will have to burn 3 gallons of propane to produce the electricity you need to cook. Power companies operate at about a 35% thermal efficiency.
Burning a fossil fuel to create heat is almost 100% efficient. But converting that heat to electric power and 70% of heat energy in propane is thrown a away as waste heat.
This thermodynamic result was proven by the scientist Sadi Carnot about two centuries ago. It a direct consequence of the first and second law of thermodynamics.
1. Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changed in form.
2. Entropy in any closed system can only increase.
The electric grid itself has typical losses of about 9%. But the heat engine all power plants use struggle to be better that 30% efficient.
So it would be very beneficial to the planet if you got rid of your electric oven and got a gas oven.
That calculation will tilt toward electric ovens if you are getting power from a nuclear power plant, or from a fossil fuel powered plant that is doing carbon capture. But carbon capture is many years in the future.
The democrats are lying to you. Are you surprised?
He is correct about benzene being a carcinogen. But benzene is a liquid at normal temperatures and won't "vent off" as a gas during normal operation. This is especially true if using propane instead of natural gas.
Kevin
@@catmando3250 what about a country like mine ,that last month operate with 88,1% renewable energy?
I lived outside the U.S. when I was younger, we had gas stove and I never met one person with asthma until I met a girl from the U.S. that came to visit some relatives, I was about 17 at that time.
After I moved to the U.S., I couldn't believe how many people suffer from asthma in this country ( including my wife of 30 years ). something very curious is that every time we visit places like Hawaii, Florida, The Bahamas and other hot and humid places, her asthma tends to fade away until we comeback to California, which makes me believe that is more of California air problem and not the gas stove.
If, you have asthma and had visited any of these hot and humid places, have you had your asthma suppress as well ?
And do other countries that use gas stove suffers from a lot of cases of asthma like U.S. as well?
Air quality in places like the Bay Area or L.A. is horrible, kids don't go outside, they sit at home, no wonder people there suffer from asthma. you live in rural France, your chances of getting asthma are much lower.
This happened to me. I was traveling to a humid climate for the first time. I was there for about 2-3 weeks and didn't need my inhaler once. It surprised me.
A good friend of mine visited the Bahamas and she had something similar happen as well. She has gastro issues and for some reason, they disappeared during her trip.
I always thought it was due to better air, less pollution, better food or just overall less stress.
Would be cool to see a study done on this.
Lmao. This is nonsense anecdotal crap. You think gas stoves are causing all the asthma? 😂
No, I didn’t say that. I believe that it has to more environment and not the gas from the stoves. My wife asthma gets normally suppressed in Florida because of the humidity and she gets it back in California because of the bad air, that people wants to ban gas because they want to use as an excuse for their climate change agenda.
Don’t you think?
@@independentopinion1469 Agreed. Having an all-electric house makes you really dependent on the local or state-ran utilities. I live in a rural area with a gas stove and gas heater. I don't have asthma and neither does anyone else in the area.
In India, most use gas stoves instead of electric. And even if we have electric it's not reliable as there will be power outages(without warnings or reasons)💀... Atleast I have windows to open😅
Unfortunately depending on where u live in India it might be better to keep ur windows closed
Same here in Indonesia. Not only electric stoves are notoriously high in wattage (more expensive), but the electricity in our country is still mostly coal based. So using electric stoves might actually produce higher carbon footprint than using gas stoves lol.
Be careful in some area of India the air pollution outdoor is crazy, I looked on the air quality maps from curiosity.
Same in Lebanon. Actually, worse. Gas stoves are our only option currently. I haven't baked anything in 2 years, because my oven is electric 🥲
@@ZentaBon they have one of the highest rate elder population so don’t worry about that
Personally for me the idea of moving everything to electric is more of a cost hurdle than anything else. Especially right now in the UK when electric prices are soaring to absolutely ridiculous levels so those less fortunate are forced to use gas alternatives to not lose their house (with the current average electric bill for last year sitting around £2,000.)
Did the gas prices not also go to ridiculous levels in the UK? I'm in the Netherlands and my gas and electricity bill (it's a combined bill) has more than doubled, but that's mostly due to the price of gas. I pay about 4000 euros a year now and that's with the government putting a cap in place or it would be even more. I do have a gas stove but I want to move house this year and I'd definitely consider an electric stove in a new house. I have two small children.
@@PombalFranzOri It has increased in the UK so I'm not exactly sure what hes on about. Gas rose by 126% compared to electrics 66% from 2022-23 (as far as I know).
After having some health problems, I think of costs to aid in prevention of health issues in a completely different way. The cost of a new stove is small in comparison to the cost associated with potential health problems. Same for buying all organic food.
I just read in another comment that they got an inexpensive portable induction stovetop burner at IKEA. 👍
Don't you worry, the free market is here for you and it will sort your problem out..... any day now...
I would love to see an updated video on what vaping does to the body, the last one was 4 years ago and now there is so much more research since they’ve been around longer.
There probably is one, but instead you choose to view a video about gas stoves. DUH!
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You can also get a separate burner. They are very affordable even as induction versions. Of course when you have multiple pots and pans in use at the same time, it's not gonna fix the whole problem, and takes up space etc., but can still be a useful option in case one cannot afford to replace the whole appliance (or does not have the necessary wiring etc.).
Yes sir induction is the best.
The best at generating co2!
@@catmando3250 wrong.
"Study finds more evidence gas stoves are bad for human health: ‘Worse than secondhand smoke."
Face it, your only alternative to good health is to become a Liberal and go electric💀💀☠☠
First it was my incandescent light bulb, and now they want my gas stove?😆😅🤣😂
One concern not addressed is the benefit of diverse energy sources supplying different appliances and utilities. When I had a gas stove and a gas water heater, I could still cook and take hot showers when the power went out. This was a huge win during major power outages that would last a few days. I miss it.
It's a valid point but the solution is easy. Just get a camping/portable gas stove. It can last for many days and it is very cheap.
Also modern gas water heaters do need electricity.
Similarly to a gas outage, external utilities cannot avoid failure - if you're that concerned about outages, have a local backup source: propane tanks, or batteries.
@@effleurager not an issue where I live, we have a propane tank.
@@jamesmortensen6819
I live in a semi-remote area where propane tank refilling trucks can't reach most of the winter. I went with firewood and a super efficient wood stove.
I actually bought an outdoor gas powered shower for this reason. But year my asthma can’t handle indoor stoves. Really bad longs.
Great, another thing to be anxious and upset about whilst knowing there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it
You might need to find, fight, etc for them but you DO have options. Just don't limit yourself to getting the entire stove replaced/having to blow $3000, but instead how you can eat in general. Everything from soule cookers to air fryers, to camping stoves, to toaster ovens, to an electric kettle to EVEN some foil and a cereal box may be at your disposal. :)
Just turn on the hood while cooking.........and stop worrying about it.
Then use that energy and focus on things you CAN change. Just pause and ask yourself, genuenly ask yourself, what would make your life better if you did it? And things will come to you. "oh there is that pile of clothes over there and I've had this book in the wrong place for a few weeks and I really should dust the walls" and stuff. Focus on improvement. It may not change the actual situation, but it will change your environment and by extension your mind and your life.
@@awesomedavid2012 reads Jordan Peterson once
You Can switch to an electric stove you’ll just have to spend some money.
I bought an portable induction stovetop at IKEA for €40. Simply plugs into an outlet.
Since i don’t cook that much anyway it has practically replaced my gas stove altogether.
Would highly recommend!
Where does that outlet get it's power supply from? In the US, it's mostly coal based power plants. You wouldn't even be making a scratch.
@@dZaq I know one induction cooktop won’t make any meaningful difference. It’s nice i don’t have to burn fossil fuels indoors anymore though,
@@joeyveldink4902 Good thing most Americans can choose.. oh wait 🤔
@@joeyveldink4902 Also, what about your neighbors? Your block/cul-de-sac. But props to you for doing something that is worth nothing more than a slow clap.
Actual change has to be at a grand scale, otherwise your endeavors are useless.. And the way you phrased it, a bit selfish.
@@dZaq luckily not everyone is american
I have a gas stove and in the Northern parts of America, it's a little uncomfortable to open a window in the Winter every time you cook. ☹
You should have an extractor fan or hood that removes the air to the outside of the house, and not just circulate it back. Even with electric stoves, cooking produces oil particles, soot from frying foods, and smoke. These are also bad in the long term when inhaled.
No matter what stove you have, you need a fume hood. We aren't cooking on open firepit or with chimneys anymore that vent away the particulates.
It should be basic common sense that anything with a large flame in the house will need good ventilation & a hood that extracts the air to the outside...
I'm a realtor and fighting for my buyers on a bid and the seller says all of my hoodvent concerns are hogwash, lol.
Sellers!
I'd like to hear more depth about how the gas stove releases toxins even when it's off. Feels like you glossed over that one.
nothing new under the sun
Google.
Basically, Molecules like benzene exist in natural gas, they are hard to separate out during the "cleaning up" of the NG where it is processed after being extracted from the ground. They are also really quite small and they can slip between the tiny (almost invisible) gaps in the gas valves on the stove and more so from poorly made or badly installed pipes/valves.
They leak gas like a balloon does, slowly but surely.
probably the pilot still releases toxins when not using the stove. if you have 4 burner stove, you have 4 pilots burning all the time.
The stress and frustration I get from cooking on electric stoves is probably far worse for my health than the chemicals
Yes..they blow. Watching my sister cook with gas it looks so nice and it's so much faster.
Go induction
Um, I cook on electric induction stove every day. What "stress and frustration" are you talking about? You just have to learn to do things a little bit different.
@@caromalf try cooking an Asian crispy egg. I've bought 3 different electric stoves highest being 2000 watts. None can even make egg crispy while yolk is wet. In fire stove, it's super easy.
@@henrylo6773 never had that, looks interesting. So is the issue is that the oil won't get hot enough?
2000W is that the total output of the top or the highest zone you've used? Most booster zones will go over 2000W on booster
I love how AsapSCIENCE tells it how it is, shows both sides, and shows under which circumstances a gas stove might be okay. All rather than saying "get rid of your gas stove immediately" like some other sources.
@@tripplefives1402 that’s a load of bs. Sorry libs but you’ll never take my electric stove
@@tripplefives1402 This is not true because electric stoves do not get hot enough to cause the reaction in air. Even the biggest home electric stoves cap out at around 900 degrees C, and that's on the largest burner at max heat for extended periods. Nitrogen dioxide and Nitric oxide form at a minimum 1000 degrees C each and forms in significantly higher quantities at higher temperatures. Gas stoves burn at around 2000 degrees C or more.
Also: The nitrogen in the air is not "burning", because nitrogen is mostly inert (read: nonflammable, noncombustible). The heat of the combustion (which does not involve nitrogen) causes a separate chemical reaction to occur between the atmospheric oxygen and nitrogen, producing NOx.
@H. Griff Than explain why the house needs to be cleared of animals when the electric stove is first heated. Idk where you got your info, but a simple Google search shows you lied about electric Temps. Don't feed the propaganda with ignorance. This is how it spreads so dangerously fast. Most electric stoves get over 1100° F. But again why ate supposed to release the toxic electric stove fumes into the home but not gas?? As someone who works around the product all the time. This video has lacking scientific evidence. All it has is speculation without proof. Go find the the proof!!!
@@tripplefives1402 the pollutants that come from using an electric stove are from the food, like vaporized oil and the like (there is a reason range hoods have oil filters) that are also present when using gas stoves. Electric coil stoves don't get hot enough to make nitrogen react, and the coils are often under a ceramic plate making the nitrogen unable to even get in contact with the coil. And when counting induction, the stove doesn't get hot at all(conduction from a pan to the stove probably maxes out at ~50C/120F which you can touch briefly), which means there definitely is nothing that is hot enough to make nox. And before you say it, induction is fast both heating up and cooling down, faster than gas in many situations. It has been tested over and over again.
@@bryantnecessary7719 Do you know the difference between Celsius and Fahrenheit? I'm assuming not, because 900C is much more than 1100F. For someone that works with these products all the time I would hope you wouldn't mix those up or your food is going to come out pretty atrocious. Ironically, you literally are quoting the exact same source as me, so I'm not sure where you got lost. Maybe you should have a basic understanding of temperature before chiming in? Also wtf are you talking about "clearing the house of animals" for electric stoves? Complete nonsense.
Just when NATO is getting in trouble with the gas prices.
NATO, a military alliance, has trouble with gas prices? Are you okay?
Its worth mentioning that if you have pets you may want to consider improving your ventilation or getting an electric cooker instead, especially if you have pets that have fairly sensitive respiratory systems like birds
Don't tell my birds... they've only been living here for 12 years....... when their lifespan in 10yrs. We have a gas stove, gas forced air heat, and a gas dryer.
Too late....we have gone thru a few birds already......so that's why.
same with lighting candles, the toxic smoke is not good for pets or people.
Why you have pet in the begin with if you really care about healthy and environment?
@@anubizz3 wtf did you even say dude
I have lived 25 years and have been in countless kitchens, and I have never once seen anybody with a gas stove
What part of the world?
Of course the concentration is higher inside of the house, you’re inside a enclosed space so the concentration will naturally be higher than outdoors. Also, cars interiors emit benzene all day long in the hot sun, especially when you turn the AC on after being parked in direct sunlight for a while. That’s also where the “new car smell” comes from. It’s an endocrine disruptor.
Seems strange because there are countries around the world where they only have gas stoves/no electric stoves/ranges. I live in Israel and I don't think illness rates are higher here than other places.
Researchgate; The World Incidence and Prevalence of Autoimmune Diseases is Increasing. International Journal of Celiac Disease
"Despite multiple reports on autoimmune diseases frequencies, long-term longitudinal follow-ups are scarce. Incidences and prevalences have increased significantly over the last 30 years. Rheumatic, endocrinological and gastrointestinal autoimmune diseases in Israel, Netherlands, USA and Sweden increased the most. These observations point to a stronger influence of environmental factors as opposed to genetic factors on autoimmune disease development."
I certainly wouldn't suggest that gas stoves are the cause, but they could be a contributing factor.
Its what you eat that is the contributing factor to those diseases
@@robinhood4640 Well, Sweden has a very high usage of electric induction stoves...
@@jonathantan2469 That is a good point.
Another point that may be worth noting, the pandemic has taught us just how manipulative scientists, politicians and journalists can be with the truth when trying to get an opinion accepted.
1+1= an increase of 100%
10+2= an increase of only 20%
Therefore it is true to say that an increase of 1 is 5 times more of an increase than an increase of 2, and vaccines are very safe and effective.
The problem I think, is that most countries where gas stoves can be a problem are cold countries where people can just left all the windows open most of the day and even many night without the interior of the house becoming chilling cold.
Tropical and subtropical countries have the luxury of having warm weathers that allow full natural ventilation all day.
It's strange to me how many people are taking the results of scientific research as a personal attack on them. This is not a judgement on anyone! It's good to know information so people can make informed choices and be aware of hazards in their environment. We make the best choices we can with the information we have at the time, and we use the resources accessible to us. You are not your stove!
Frustrating...yes...strange...no....
This is just part of the culture war.
It's more a reaction to the current political climate of not only the US, but the world. Even moderate people are getting tired of all the "banning" of things. I absolutely agree that if you do not have proper ventilation, a gas stove is not your best option. The problem is going to be that some will run with this and if you're using a gas stove you're going to be "part of the problem". I know that seems like a stretch, but that's just our modern society. Everything is taken to extremes sadly.
@@justincombs7433 This happens with everything, forever- as technology progresses, older methods are phased out and replaced. It has happened in every aspect of life, some are just more noticeable than others.
Well they used to say that pregnant women could smoke. Obviously that was a lie. Same with cooking oils and how healthy they are. Also a lie. Depending on the current trends I really can’t trust doctors or scientists. Don’t even get me started on the Covid vaccine 😂
No it’s just one side of a story. Only talking about one a spy of a issue makes your point and doesn’t give the full circle
Here in Tunisia about 99% of household are equipped with gas stoves, simply because they more economical to buy and use. With purshasing power in the sink and a low value currency most people can't get an electric one even if they wanted to
Ill just stick to gas stoves. California already has problems with the electric grid. I wanna at least be able to cook during a blackout
You will eat nothing and be happy.
I guess gas stove is the new ammo, got to stock up before they are banned.
you're gonna do what, hoard gas stoves in your garage?🤣
@@damjanp7920 if anything going to break is going to be the burners and the ignitors, I'm to get a few sets for back up.
I live in a pretty old neighborhood, where we had 5 power outages (20+ hours) over the last 2 years. When the electricity goes out, the only thing we could cook with was the manual gas stove as everything else runs on electricity.
You could use a portable gas stove or gas grill for this. It is silly to use something 365 days a year solely because it becomes useful 1 of those 365 days.
@@GenesisMuseum it's not unusual for people just to have had gas, I've known people to use it all their lives, not sure how you grew up but from my experience that's all people knew, I remember my parents using paraffin lamps.
fair point but that also works in the inverse. lets say you run out of gas for your stove. you're not going to be cooking anything with it until you refuel. as is the case for a downed electric system, it will impact you until its fixed. in both cases depending on severity the lack of gas or electricity may be fixed within a few days or maybe a week or so. a few ways to mitigate this is to prepare for both. you could get a small generator, a portable electric stove (the really small ones), an outdoor grill, a pellet stove, etc. you dont need all of those things but you can make do with one of the other options to cover your bases for a few days if shit hits the fan. most of them you can get for pretty cheap too. so basically, do what works for you but be prepared.
@@ghostofsilence2697 but, at least up north and in the mountains in the US, electricity goes out a lot. I think I might of heard of one time from someone throughout my whole life where gas was down for a short period; because of the simplicity of gas lines, they rarely have issues.
@@ghostofsilence2697
Gas volume is measurable, and one can refuel before it runs out completely or right on time.
I love my gas stove, between pollution and giving up my gas stove I would choose my gas stove .
For places that have unstable power grids (like where I'm from) gas stoves allow us to cook even when there's no power. It's literally the only reason I have one...
Adam Raguesa did a podcast episode on this. It's not as sensationally bad as articles make it out to be. Ventilation is always a good thing anyways
We probably should require all vent hoods to vent outside and require them to turn on automatically when the stove is on.
@@jamisongillespie3524 spread knowledge not regulation. regulation makes things more expensive and creates a bureaucratic cycle where more regulation piles on. it is also often out of date with science and has ulterior motives that are lobbied in by the companies. look how expensive Europe is getting and how difficult it is to run a business there.
people can choose for themselves when informed. most people choose to harm themselves daily by eating poorly and that harm is much worse than a stove. everybody knows it's bad for them
@@princeofexcess you obviously have never been inside a house if you think you can ask people pretty please do this and have any expectation it will done.
People don't have a right to subject their family, roommates, neighbors and children to breathe in noxious air because they made an "informed" decision. Being against regulation writ large is an untenable position at best, and an idiotic one at worst.
@@jamisongillespie3524 you have a right to use electricity so you have the right to exactly that. you might disagree where the line is but thats about it.
you cannot live without polluting. at least you cannot live without polluting and talk to me on a computer. its called being a hypocrite
@@princeofexcess you don't have a right to electricity. You don't have to make others suffer through your actions. Your personal liberty ends the moment it affects someone else.
idk why this has all the sudden became a big deal, as someome who had gas stove for 13 years, hearing people freak out about seems weird.
its like if someone told me that water is wet, yeah obviously.
Bureaucrats pump money to universities to create studies that benefit the bureaucracy and its agendas. Academia is unbelievably corrupt. Wonder why they shoveled so many kids into college to increase debt and brainwash unsuspecting minds?
Sometimes we find out things we didn't know before.
@@billybobjenkins5625 have you used a gas stove before buddy?
I didn't need a study from academia to tell me that gas stove is bad. you would know that if you used it yourself.
now you're on a whole different level of thinking its all corruption or something
@@amirmirzaei3940 When did you first decide gas stoves were bad?
@@billybobjenkins5625 from having experience using them.
I can't wait to get a gas range. I'm fully ready to pay the cost of running a gas line from my garage to my kitchen. They're so much better for cooking. Not to mention for power outages.
I'm gonna show my mom this video. She recently asked me if we should get an electric stove.
Ventilation I'ms the key... This is just bs
So if I make a video saying an electric stove is going to kill you then what will you cook with, unicorn farts?
As a single person in a rental switched from Gas Stove to Portable induction Stove, Mini oven, Multicooker and a Electric Wok between those four pretty much al cooking is covered, once you get use to the way everything cooks and what to use best you'll not miss Gas at all
Good Pots also matter with induction, but work your way up slowly if you don't have the money, I'm on 5ply base to even out the heating at least
5ply all round including sides > 3ply all round > 5ply base only> 3ply base > Single thin steel
Before freaking out about having to drop $3,000 on an electric, you can always start small and worry about replacing the standalone stove later. Espeically if you are a renter. Toaster ovens, single/dual ranges and so on are always options and can be had BOTH for at/below $100. If you can thrift them that might save you even more money/easier to source.
from experience stoves aren't really needed at all. i haven't used a oven since 2018. when i do use the stove top it is only a single burner. rarely use that. most stuff i cook in the microwave. need to get better cookware for that though. my brother doesn't like using the microwave. any plastic cookware used in it gives the food a plastic taste. my tastebuds are sensitive. not that sensitive though. really should get rid of the oven here. being fully gas it heats the house even when its not being used. would likely make summers a lot more barrable without it. long outages would become a problem though.
@@CorpusOrganic You can't rely on gas for outages, it's instafacture can fails during an outage just as the electric one. There's much better options out that make sense for "emergency heat" than simply hoping the stove and gas are still being supplied.
Where is that price from, because that seems insane. I bought a pack with dishwasher, stove and induction top for less than half of that some years ago. Granted, some leeway has to be granted for currency conversion here, but looking at Amazon right now I see several induction cooktops for less than USD 500 (and portable single cooker solutions for less than 100).
$3,000?! A portable induction cooktop is like $50 and a full stove is around $500
Who the hell spends $3000 on an electric stove, at that price you can get amazing induction. A decent Electric range costs about $800 usd
I have yet to use an electric or induction stove that cooks as well as a gas stove.
I hate electric. Living in Puerto Rico, where power goes out constantly makes the stove useless.
I just don't like them because I've lived with one too many ppl who accidentally leave the gas on... I was always knocking on my landlords door to let her know she left her gas on again and I lived below her! How was I smelling it before her? Luckily the tenants above her worked late and were rarely home when that happened.
It's crazy that north American gas stoves do not have a flame interlock. All the stoves I've used in Europe turn the gas supply off if the burner is not ignited.
I live in a rented house and have no choice on the oven. So we can't really get rid of it. I will keep ventilation in mind, but do you (or anyone) think that just reducing the use of the oven is also a good idea? We are thinking of getting an air fryer as they are cheaper to run. Would be good to know it would also be good for our health!
Renters are actually one of the bigger concerns for regulators because, as you say, they don't have the same level of choice as a homeowner, and since lower-income families tend to rent and live in more dense housing arrangements, the effects of those emissions are compounded. This is why most of the "bans" on gas stoves mostly just apply to new or renovated multi-family housing and apartments.
have you even asked your landlord? it's at least worth asking..
you can also purchase a table top induction burner pretty cheap
Get an air fryer as soon as you can I'd say. They're cheaper, faster and if used correctly, tastier.
@@werdwerdus sure they can ask the landlord, but others may complain, it's never that simple. In a perfect world yes but this world is far from perfect. Optimism is good but not always practical.
As a healthy person who has a gas stove right next to a large window, I feel like for now, keeping it is our best choice over replacing it. Once our stove ages out, I'll likely go for an induction model instead, though.
got induction for few years and it's great. Instant heat, energy is used only directly under the pot, so no waste on sides.
@@KrowiakRoger Yeah, when we have the means to get one, induction is definitely my choice!
Oh well, I'm using it anyway
Depending on your style of cooking, you might want to try cooking on an induction stove first.
Also, keep in mind the replacement costs of pots and pans for ones that are induction capable.
Living up North, and having a gas stove next to a window, large or not, doesn't help in the dead of winter, just so you know.
It's not about health, rather it's about availability and cost efficiency, by being focused on health and the environment, you forget about the reality of trying to bring people out of poverty by producing the lowest cost for energy. If gas stoves are providing a cost effective means to households, then that's a good thing, your video is the reason why people do not trust the "virtues" of people who assert to stand for science, they stop standing for people.
I grew up during the ussr dissolution. You would get massive blackouts. The gas stove was the only source of light and heat. We'd close the door to the kitchen and sit there for hours. For years.
If it's winter time and there's a power outage, you'll want something to keep you warm.
More so the ability to boil water easily if need be. If you're power goes out in a winter storm, that means no hot water as well for those with electric water heaters. With a gas stove, you can start a pot of water to boil for bathing or cooking. The electric grid is barely hanging in there with demand in some places and now theres a push for more.
Lived in a house with gas stove ALL MY LIFE (I'm in my 30's) so far never had a single issue same for my family and elders who also had gas stoves, not to mention it helps your wallet. Here in my city is extremely rare to find something that is based off electricity, If anything finding a stove that uses electricity is something that we consider old/outdated.
Gas or electricity we are still not doing any good to the environment but guess what?, it's what we (humans) are pretty good at doing... ruining everything around us.
Just because it didn't affect you doesn't mean the risk isn't there. Your lungs would be healthier without it. Either way, as long as you have ventilation ur fine
Just because something is dangerous or deadly doesn’t mean it should be banned. It’s MY decision to make, not the government.
Our house didn't even come with a vent hood and has a gas stove. We rigged a window fan in the kitchen full time that vents air out while cooking. I'd still rather have a good vent hood, though. I can't even imagine the cost of installing one, given the configuration of our house.
There are vent hoods you can install that don't require venting, they recirculate through a built-in filter.
@@216trixie Yeah, the biggest problem is the way they designed the cabinets and the microwave directly above the stove. There's almost no way to install anything like that without reconfiguring everything and I simply do not have the contracting skills.
@@Gravage do they sell fans that vent out the window through a pipe? Maybe they have some compact hood that can be attached to the pipe above the stove. Not sure if it would be effective
@@Gravage Dude, You're just making excuses, seriously. You are overthinking it.
Heck, IKEA will sell you everything you need for a couple hundred dollars, and you can do it yourself. My wife and I just did ours last autumn.
Cabinets/microwave over the stove is very popular, and simply to do. Your situation is not unique, in fact its super common. All companies and brand names make exactly what you need because it is so common.
@@216trixie Those in my experience are not as effective. The filter has to be regularly replaced or the oil & soot buildup makes it near useless. And it doesn't remove the carbon dioxide & nitrous gases... it just circulates it.
Botton line is external venting should be a must... whether you're using a gas or electric stove. The soot, smoke, and oil particles from cooking are also not good to breathe in...
Me cooking a pancake on a gas stove right as I see this video 8 minutes after upload:
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Did you survive? 🤔
@@chocolateshogun2511 update after 35 minutes:
I seem to have survived the ordeal.
For now.
Farts also are a major environment and health hazard. We should seriously think of banning them.
Its kinda funny that all the problems of gas polluting the air in the house can be solved by just placing the range before a nice window, a common practice in India at least.
What about propane vs natural gas?
I've been wondering the same. Did some googling, but didn't find much. :(
they're both fossil fuels
Hwat
@@jodyknight Not all fossil fuels are equal. Propane is not considered a greenhouse gas, so at least for the environment, it’s better than methane. I don’t know the impact on health. It might interact differently, so, it might be safer as well? But I really don’t know.
@@lisecarolina Its effectively the same. Slightly different combustion chemically, but of course still outputs CO2 and burns hot enough to cause the formation of NOx. The whole point of this gas stove discussion isn't about the type of gas used; its about the fact that any possible gas you use burns hot enough to produce toxic fumes which a pretty bad for you in a closed environment like a house. When used outdoors or with proper ventilation, these fumes are way less impactful.
Living in a country where pretty much 100% is electric, I always thought gas stoves would be a thing of the past. Like 50 year and more in the past. Why the hell would people use that, if you can have a much cleaner and healthier version, that does not cost any more? I don't get it?
Gas cooks better and is more reliable where power often goes out.
@@boosti_alex1428 Well, but it does not cook any different and if power goes out often, you are (hopefully?!) not in the US,.. or does the US also have power outages often enough to warrant killing your lungs and hearts?
@@Tech_Enthusiast_001 "Killing your heart and lungs". 😂 You are such a naive dork. Go take your 5th and 6th booster like a good little techie.
here is the thing im confused about
I have about 3 generations of my family who been using gas stoves, and not 1 or myself has Asthma
Bought my house little over a year ago, has gas stove, replaced all appliances last summer, about 9 months living in the house, changing gas stove to electric, and never looked back. cooks much better and now finding out all this, glad I did.
Also is more then just getting a new stove, have to get new wiring from the box to the kitchen and 220v 50 amp socket. Also also hope you electric box can handle the extra amps. Meaning can you run the dryer, the A/C, and the stove at the same time? If not, need new box and wires going from the entrance of the house to the box.
Because this is now a political battle, it's NOT about your health, it's about control.
The left first said the right was making it up that Joe Biden wanted to ban gas stoves.
I agree. They come out with a B.S. study about kids allergies to justify banning gas stoves, instead look at the all the foods and infant formulas and milk that kids eat and drink! Thats the real cause of all this allergies and health issues. Dont forget that spraying of chemicals in the upper atmosphere all over the world is very safe right!!..lol
Well, before it was made a political battle it was about your health. Unfortunately, certain Americans don't like to hear that things that are obviously bad for them are bad for them, and take it as a personal attack. You can see it in this comment section of low brain power people who think this video is like targeted at them.
I mean we used to heat our kitchen using gas stove 😬
oh no
As a short hand solution maybe you could consider getting portable counter top electric devices if you want to avoid cooking with gas as much as possible even if you still have the gas stove putting off fumes even while off, unless you say have a gas tank instead of pipes that you could get disconnected semi easily? I saw a video awhile back about someone who had a gas stove but was cooking with portable electric devices as much as possible simply because of the gas costs.
If you do go induction stove just note that electric and induction are too very different things so people will want to note that when purchasing pots and pans for them, or considering if their old ones will work with an induction stove. My Mum’s pots didn’t work on the induction stove when we all moved in but thankfully mine did, as well as the old cast iron round frying pans. So now she just uses her big pot, that doesn’t work on the stove, for storing soup etc. in the fridge to free up the pot that does work on the stove.
That being said would totally recommend induction for those wondering! Just a heads up so you don’t get caught out like we were.
I’ve wondered about this, but because I don’t have a gas stove - or any gas appliances - it’s not something I’ve felt I needed to research. When we bought our house 25 years ago, I wanted to swap out the 1970s-era electric range for a nice gas range. I also wanted to put in a gas line to our fireplace. Well, it turned out we have no gas service to our house. No gas service on our block, in fact. The gas company said we could have gas service put in but we’d have to pay for it to be run from the nearest gas main - $40,000. No thanks.
So, we’re 100% electric here. 100% wind-power, actually. We signed up for 100% wind-power electricity a decade ago; it was a bit more expensive per kWh than fossil-fuel power, but the rate was guaranteed for 10 years, no matter what. That worked out in our favor since the cost of fossil-fuel electricity has increased quite a bit in our area. Plus we get to be a bit smug about being a 100% renewable-energy household. Except for our old cars…
Great timing, what's next? the dangers of vodka and caviar 🤣
You don't already know about them? The difference is that politicians don't work on promoting them as a good lifestyle.
Induction ftw
Thanks. Some neighbors in California redid a house and were ordered to remove the gas connection for their furnace and water heater. Most of us in the neighborhood already have electric stoves and ranges. I was used to cooking with gas and have been finding that electric cooking is gentler, for want of a better word. I did not know about the health benefits.
well, if they decided to remain in commifornia they deserve whatever sort of abuse the local tyrants give out.
I've never met anyone from California with sufficient intelligence to be interesting.
Retired electrical engineer here.
Studied power engineering.
Lot's of mistakes in this video.
Electric is nice if you live in a warm climate area. But there are people that live in very cold climates, and use the gas stove as backup heat. Without this ability, people die.
But more importantly....
An electric oven generates 3 times the co2 as a gas oven. shocking isn't it.
If you have a gas stove and use 1 gallon of propane a week to do your cooking, then convert to an electric oven, the power company will have to burn 3 gallons of propane to produce the electricity you need to cook. Power companies operate at about a 35% thermal efficiency.
Burning a fossil fuel to create heat is almost 100% efficient. But converting that heat to electric power and 70% of heat energy in propane is thrown a away as waste heat.
This thermodynamic result was proven by the scientist Sadi Carnot about two centuries ago. It a direct consequence of the first and second law of thermodynamics.
1. Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changed in form.
2. Entropy in any closed system can only increase.
The electric grid itself has typical losses of about 9%. But the heat engine all power plants use struggle to be better that 30% efficient.
So it would be very beneficial to the planet if you got rid of your electric oven and got a gas oven.
That calculation will tilt toward electric ovens if you are getting power from a nuclear power plant, or from a fossil fuel powered plant that is doing carbon capture. But carbon capture is many years in the future.
The democrats are lying to you. Are you surprised?
He is correct about benzene being a carcinogen. But benzene is a liquid at normal temperatures and won't "vent off" as a gas during normal operation. This is especially true if using propane instead of natural gas.
Kevin
Uncle Roger: Haiyaa!! Why are you promoting electric stoves and not gas stoves?!
The truth of the matter is, your gas stove isn't going to kill you. We've been using them for over a hundred years and they're a HUGE upgrade from the coal or wood fire stoves we used before that. The main focus of the "bans" being talked about are in new and renovated multi-family housing and apartments, where residents don't have a choice over their appliances and the densely packed living quarters mean those pollutants are much more concentrated. This also affects lower-income families disproportionately since they tend to rent rather than tie up hundreds of thousands of dollars in a single-family home. So, convert if you can afford to as it's definitely better for you, but don't be overwhelmed by all the fear-mongering. I'd prioritize an electric car over a stove if you're worried about harmful emissions from burning fossil fuels.
Thank you, this is by far the most reasonable comment on here.
You can use gas stove during electrical outage +1 over Electrical stove
I've seen this comment popping up a lot in defense of gas stoves and to that I say fair, but in this case/video is being talked as a common usage of gas stoves, not during an emergency.
@@vixxito Yeah, but also...like, where do you all live that having a cooking appliance during a power outage is an important feature. LIke...I rarely have power outages...maybe every couple of years for a few hours...and I can like...eat a sandwich for that one dinner...it's not a big deal.
If you expirience power outages so often you are afraid it impacts your cooking, you might need to ask your politicians what the heck is going on?
However if those politicians are something like texan republicans, you might be screwed.
@@DanielBrotherston we had multiple power outages last year here in Queensland Australia due to severe storm damage and flooding, one was 10 days!!
@@DanielBrotherston winter is a b-word. Also, if a natural disaster does occur, it's good to have an option to boil water for drinking or cleaning wounds.
The gas stoves has natural gas (propane and butane) and ethyl mercaptan. Most of the combustion products are carbon dioxide and hydrogen oxide (water). Electricity comes from burning charcoal which is a much bigger pollutant than propane and butane.
Our house was built in 2017 and gas appliances are standard because natural gas is cheaper than electricity (Alberta). But all the new homes have hood fans that go directly outside. The builder couldn't emphasize more about how important it is to use the fan while cooking and leave it on after the fact. Even when using the oven. They also told us to turn the central exhaust fan all the time when cooking (relative new houses have a random switch in living room or open space that controls a fan in a bathroom usually upstairs and furnace fan. This set up helps circulate and exhaust inside air, reduces humidity and keeps home be cooler in summer days) i wonder if an ERV helps with this too.
While a gas stove may have some health issues involved, they have a major upside that electric stoves by their very definition don't have, is that they can function when the power's out. And there are some places where that can literally be life-or-death in winter. So the balancing Point could be argued that which one is better, the amount of lives potentially saved by gas heating versus the amount of lives affected by pollutants caused by gas
A gas grill or camp stove would work fine in a power outage for cooking. A few days a year vs. daily.
This is why the future of more efficient and affordable batteries is important.
Incorrect. If your government would do better on electricity systems, them power outages would be nearly non existent. I'm in a place in Canada where you might lose power, but it's back in 5-10 minutes.
The us failed its people the moment it decided to vilify social systems to guarantee services to its public. Health care, power supplies, grocers, all are monitored and supported by governments in Canada. Both provincial and national.
I remember back in 2011 when it snowed in October and the weight of the snow on the leaves took out several power lines. My house had no electricity for a week and we relied on our gas stove to cook our food
@@julesverneinoz you speak as if batteries aren't harmful to the environment.
I switched from gas to induction last year and I love it SO much! Basically, I came for the safety, but stay because it’s awesome.
gas cooks better!
I want to switch as well. Which brand & model if you don't mind me asking?
@@mattyobrown Many people say that, but I think after one gets used to induction it will be fine (but yes, gas is normally the best choice for cooking). Strangely enough I find myself cooking better on convection rather than gas or induction (which operate somewhat similarly)
@@mattyobrown And way less efficiently. Seriously, most of the heat goes around some pots, thus is of no use unless you want to heat your home (in the opposite case it might put more strain on A/C).
@@mattyobrown From a physics point of view, that doesn't make much sense. Your food doesn't care what heat source is making the pan/pot it's in hot. In my experience, gas stoves had exactly one thing going for them: speed. Heat transfer is so direct that you can adjust with virtually instant results. It was the one thing I used to love about using a gas stove when in a remote cabin (the only places around here with gas stoves, since the country has no gas infrastructure whatsoever). Induction tops do the same thing now, with the added advantage of a cooking surface that is completely flat and easy to clean. For edge cases (not sure what they'd be, but I'm sure there are some) or power outages, there are plenty of portable solutions available to dig out for those occasional needs.
I worked as an air pollution engineer for 30 years, this guy is making all these claims and has no idea what he is talking about.
I lived in the same house almost my whole life. I'm 61. We have gas heat and stove. Our heat are gas fireplaces and little gas heaters in each room. Never had a problem.
Important to note that some food products, need a high heat source over a large area that is difficult to achieve without an open flame. A good example is wok burners. however in professional restraunts with wok burners you will notice the stoves they use are often high efficiency and have excellent exhaust systems.
Excellent point. I frequently use a wok, and only gas does the job properly. I am fortunate in that I have an outside kitchen as back up. This is a single gas burner connected to a barbeque gas tank, located in a covered area on my deck. Outdoor cooking means everything including cooking odours easily get dispersed.
well if you want to eat at a restaurant with all electric plan on waiting twice the time for your food to be cooked and the tase will never be the same , people just need a brain and stop listening to these green freaks even cooks and my doctors say it is going insane on these green agendas
@@AP-hz8or an electric system does work well depending on what you are cooking.
My old stove was electric and cooked curries much better than my gas burner. but my gas burner cooks stir frys better than my electric.this is because curries need a slow cook, but stir frys need a fast cook.
A quickly cooked curry tastes terrible. This is why many restraunts actually cook curries in bulk, then tell late customers they have run out rather than cook new batches.
As a Swede, I find it quite shocking that gas is so commonly used in normal households across the world. We don't really use gas at all because...why would we?
Some old buildings still do. Watch some of Edward Blom’s cooking videos for instance. He has a gas stove, and Mannerström as well. But that may be consious decisions since many chefs seems to think it makes the food better.
Up until recently (like the past 20-30 years) it was the cleanest most economical way to heat a home in cold climates. Efficient electric heat pumps that are capable of operating in -10 to -20 C are a relatively recent development. Prior to that the choices were coal, oil, gas, or very very expensive electrical resistance heating.
So many places have invested heavily in gas pipes because gas was the best option. Fortunately technology has improved and now both heating and cooking can be done much more efficiently with electricity.
Curious though...what did Sweden typically use for heating 30 years ago? It's a cold climate, I know heat pumps are pretty common now, but 30 years ago they wouldn't have been as available as they are now.
I'm surprised at how many people are surprised by this. I thought people knew it was bad but were kinda just going for the convenience aspect. Wtf did people think was happening with gas being burned in a closed space??
What do you guys suggest for my new home? An electronic one or a gas stove [Please share your knowledge on electric ones and thier pricing
Go with an induction cook top. Note that you likely will need new pots and pans for this.
Although we have an electric cook stove, we also have a portable induction cook top in the kitchen for making small portion meals such as soups and stews. If you need airconditioning in the summer, induction cooking reduces the heat load for the A/C.
If/when our electric cooking stove needs replacing, we'll definitely get an induction cook top.
@@BasementEngineer Thank you my friend! That was pretty useful..
Dang I was team gas stove for so long because of the control over my cooking. But health and environment matters way more than learning how an electric stove works
Virtue signal much?
We're thinking of switching from gas to induction. Anyone have experience with 1.) converting to induction and 2.) removing the gas lines that lead to the kitchen in the first place? I would love to begin removing gas piping from my home. Just curious about the cost. Thanks!
I'm a plumber. First you don't need to remove any of the pipes. Just shut off the gas and put a cap on it. Then you just need to run electric to that spot.
@@216trixie Thanks so much!
The instruction manual for my induction cooktop says some equivalences between its power levels and heat levels from a gas stove. Although it still heats much faster, so keep that in mind.
@@FranciscoJGyes, my family got one and my mom keeps burning things - definitely it requires a bit of additional skill to use (though totally worth it)
You're wrong about no regulations inside the home, in many areas, if you're selling a house that has gas as it's main source, you must convert it to non gas before selling.
We've had gas stoves since the 1800s yet it's an issue now?
We need to eat bugs and live in pods and use only electricity.. because you know, the planet
Meanwhile, microwaving food in Tupperware is alright…
who the hell puts food inside of plastic containers into a microwave???
@@damjanp7920 It’s dangerous to go alone, here, take this! (SARCASM 🗡️)
@@chocolateshogun2511 sarcasm is supposed to be funny
@@damjanp7920 bruh, just move on. If you didn't grow up in the 80s, you don't get it. JFC, everything is a f&cking intellectual debate.
What a terrible thing to do to your food and your Tupperware.
In India probably 95% of homes use gas stoves. (95% of people not using firewood)
Nope. 54% households use firewood and cowdung
And half the people don't use sanitary toilets in India.
I heard they use kerosene for Cooking in India.
@@216trixie context?
@@pawelzybulskij3367 yes, in some places it's still used. However kerosene is getting out of fashion
Just a note about emissions. In places where most of the energy comes from natural gas combustion, using gas to heat up your food directly is a lot more efficient. With gas stoves, natural gas is burned at the stove, its chemical energy turns into heat, which heats up the food. When using electric stoves, there are many more steps involved: natural gas chemical energy is turned into heat, the heat spins a gas turbine to produce mechanical work, this mechanical work is then converted into electricity, which then gets transmitted to our home, to be converted into heat again. Having so many energy conversion steps means that entropy is working against us and many losses of energy are unavoidable in every step. We end up releasing a lot more CO2 into the atmosphere and using a larger quantity of gas, albeit not inside our home.
In the Philippines, many condominiums have already banned gas stoves. They're just not safe.
Damn, I lived my whole life in Argentina and I only have one friend that doesn't have a gas stove, electric ones are veeeery rare here :|
Keep your gas stove....
Retired electrical engineer here.
Studied power engineering.
Lot's of mistakes in this video.
Electric is nice if you live in a warm climate area. But there are people that live in very cold climates, and use the gas stove as backup heat. Without this ability, people die.
But more importantly....
An electric oven generates 3 times the co2 as a gas oven. shocking isn't it.
If you have a gas stove and use 1 gallon of propane a week to do your cooking, then convert to an electric oven, the power company will have to burn 3 gallons of propane to produce the electricity you need to cook. Power companies operate at about a 35% thermal efficiency.
Burning a fossil fuel to create heat is almost 100% efficient. But converting that heat to electric power and 70% of heat energy in propane is thrown a away as waste heat.
This thermodynamic result was proven by the scientist Sadi Carnot about two centuries ago. It a direct consequence of the first and second law of thermodynamics.
1. Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changed in form.
2. Entropy in any closed system can only increase.
The electric grid itself has typical losses of about 9%. But the heat engine all power plants use struggle to be better that 30% efficient.
So it would be very beneficial to the planet if you got rid of your electric oven and got a gas oven.
That calculation will tilt toward electric ovens if you are getting power from a nuclear power plant, or from a fossil fuel powered plant that is doing carbon capture. But carbon capture is many years in the future.
The democrats are lying to you. Are you surprised?
He is correct about benzene being a carcinogen. But benzene is a liquid at normal temperatures and won't "vent off" as a gas during normal operation. This is especially true if using propane instead of natural gas.
Kevin
Let's ban farts too.
I like this video. I have a CO2 meter and I have put this above a stove when on, it goes above the safe level fairly quickly. But I put it behind a new car (2019 model) and I was shocked at how quick it got to 400ppm (safe is 30ppm). Don't stand behind running cars.
co2 isnt that bad for plants because they need co2 to grow, so my advice is get some plants, maybe you should just talk to the co2 meter and see what happens
@@chichangwu I ment CO not CO2, sorry
It would be nice, but it's not based in reality. Banning gas stoves is not going to do anything when people are still using gas to heat the water, and luxuries like a gas fueled fireplace. Do you think people would stop using their propane/coal fire grills for BBQ's? The stove is an easy target because almost every household uses one. Not to mention, depending on where you live, an electric stove is going to cost you more than gas would.
Again, if gas is the problem, go after the people who have outdoor gas fire pits, indoor fireplaces, etc... not folks with one gas burner to cook their dinner.
It's the same argument we are having over electric cars. Make it affordable, or it's not plausible.
This channel is owned and paid by youtube.
That's for damn sure.
Curious how this just suddenly popped into the news, completely out of nowhere...
That's how news works..
Haha why?
If it's already been asked, sorry for repeating:
What type of gas is used in US gas stoves? Because there's propane, butane, methane... just wondering. Philippines uses LPG tanks, and i think it's a mix of propane and butane?
Please discuss about different gasses used in gas stoves such as - syngas, natural gas, propane, butane and liquefied petroleum gas (LPG). They each produce different side products which needs to be taken into consideration.
Well I don't have a venting hood over my gas stove. And when I cook meat I can actually see the air pollution. And I'm sure the invisible air pollution is just as bad or worse. This makes me want to open my backdoor a whole lot more while I'm cooking. Don't have a well-ventilated kitchen, otherwise. I appreciate you helping us to become aware of the hazards.
As a Southeast Asian I find it hard to believe gas stoves play such a major role in asthma cases. Our elders have always used gas stoves yet asthma was extremely rare. Throughout my entire life, I have only known one person who had asthma and it wasn’t caused by a gas stove lol. I can only imagine the rising cases of asthma is caused by shitty air quality.
This
People in Asia tend to smoke like chimney, so it's not surprising to find one that doesn't give a damn about their health.😆😅🤣😂
I've got news for you. I'm keeping my gas stove. No one will ever take it from me.
As for the danger, I have an exhaust fan above my stove. Also, if you don't have a pilot, your stove does not leak. It's called an electric start. I'm really not surprised that you ignored the existence of electric starts. 😊
After seeing this video I quickly researched and bought an induction hob (stove). Picking it up this week and I hope it's as good to cook with as gas! Thanks for broadcasting the info.
@@panchonelson3573 Morning, Troll
Induction stoves produce almost 3 times the amount of co2 compared to a gas stove by the way. It would help to get some science education
Retired electrical engineer here.
Studied power engineering.
Lot's of mistakes in this video.
Electric is nice if you live in a warm climate area. But there are people that live in very cold climates, and use the gas stove as backup heat. Without this ability, people die.
But more importantly....
An electric oven generates 3 times the co2 as a gas oven. shocking isn't it.
If you have a gas stove and use 1 gallon of propane a week to do your cooking, then convert to an electric oven, the power company will have to burn 3 gallons of propane to produce the electricity you need to cook. Power companies operate at about a 35% thermal efficiency.
Burning a fossil fuel to create heat is almost 100% efficient. But converting that heat to electric power and 70% of heat energy in propane is thrown a away as waste heat.
This thermodynamic result was proven by the scientist Sadi Carnot about two centuries ago. It a direct consequence of the first and second law of thermodynamics.
1. Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changed in form.
2. Entropy in any closed system can only increase.
The electric grid itself has typical losses of about 9%. But the heat engine all power plants use struggle to be better that 30% efficient.
So it would be very beneficial to the planet if you got rid of your electric oven and got a gas oven.
That calculation will tilt toward electric ovens if you are getting power from a nuclear power plant, or from a fossil fuel powered plant that is doing carbon capture. But carbon capture is many years in the future.
The democrats are lying to you. Are you surprised?
He is correct about benzene being a carcinogen. But benzene is a liquid at normal temperatures and won't "vent off" as a gas during normal operation. This is especially true if using propane instead of natural gas.
Kevin
@@catmando3250 thank you for your response. I'm afraid your argument has several critical flaws:
1. Induction hobs are in the region of 85% efficient at heating the cookware, compared to 32% for gas hobs (basically negating your energy conversion figures).
2. Induction hobs do not burn hydrocarbons directly in your kitchen (the main focus of this video).
3. Induction hobs have the ability to use renewable energy (I do not live in the US, so this is more abundant).
4. Living in a developed country, I thankfully do not use a gas hob to heat my home!
5. You keep changing between discussing hobs and ovens - this may be a US thing, but to be clear, a hob to me is on top where you heat pans and the oven is the enclosed area where you can roast/bake.
I'm now enjoying the convenience and speed of an induction hob, without the need for my 2 young kids to breathe in the NO2.
Have a nice day.
I didn't want this to be true. Love cooking with gas and hate electric but data is data and I appreciate you researching this!
when u'll have to pay thousands for your electric shit; you'll reconsider your position. Also; use biogas; which is essentially methane gas which when burned release only water and co2. Use a ventilation on the bottom of your wall to catch the co2 denser than air, and throw it outside. You're welcome.
@@pikpok9407 Checking Amazon right now, you can get full size induction cooktops for less than USD 500. For common uses cases, induction over gas only has positives. No open flame in your kitchen, no emissions from burning gas, easier to clean, just as fast or even faster than gas.
@@Jason-ji2zx you NEED to talk to the stubborn pro gas Fox News (even though I myself agree with almost all of them myself on almost everything else) types that refuse to see this
I'm talking about free energy, you're talking about dependence to electricity
@@pikpok9407 If you have your own gas well, I get that argument. Most people have to pay for their energy though, be it gas or electricity, so there's no such thing as free.
The idea of the establishment is that everything goes electric, the vast majority of people will have neither the option to make electricity, nor to store it and will be at the absolute mercy of whoever controls electrical network. Just think about it, it's one single source of energy. You used to have combined central heating, could use either coal, wood or oil, your stove runs on gas, you could have a two years stock of gas very easily, cars, obviously ran on gasoline or diesel. You could stock up on any of these fuels, except of course if you live in an apartment in the city, but even so, you can have a month worth of stock of pellets for your small pellet fireplace, that's sufficient so you won't freeze in the winter.
Going electric all the way is a wonderful idea on paper and I get it, but the risk of someone manipulating the market is extreme, while the risk of grid failure would have unprecedented consequences. In the middle of the winter, if you have a wood fired furnace and a gas stove/oven and the electricity goes out, you'll be fine, even for a month, just annoyed you can't use the internet or watch TV. If everything runs on electricity, your "smart" home goes cold, can't prepare food, you'll consume all the food that doesn't need to be cooked within a day and then you'll starve.
The price manipulation is vastly easier if there is only one item, it's almost impossible to manipulate or monopolize electricity, coal, wood, gas, oil, all at the same time, because the price of one source is a balance against another. If there is only one source of energy, that's effectively monopoly.
Trust me, you're much safer with gas, but for god's sake, use common sense and ventilate, you'll be fine.
I think you should put a disclaimer that this applies to LNG (natural gas). A lot of people, specifically outside of the USA use LPG (petroleum gases as propane and butane) not LNG. LPG burns a lot cleaner than LNG.
*TL;DR: Politicians should be banned.*