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- Mobility in Medieval Plate Armor. This video shows that full plate allows one to stand up from a fall with relative ease. Perhaps the most infamous example is the notion that "knights had to be hoisted into their saddles with a crane," which is as absurd as it is persistent even among many historians. Misconceptions and Questions Relating to Armor. Armor was worn only by knights.Wrong. Women of earlier times never fought in battle or wore armor.-Wrong. Armor was so expensive that only princes and rich nobility could afford it.-Wrong. Armor is extremely heavy and renders its wearer immobile.-Wrong. Knights had to be hoisted into their saddles with cranes.-Wrong.
That is a terrifying sight, a man dashing at full speed towards you, full armour, sword out
Until you pull out a gun.
@@Red41554 gl hitting or doing severe enough damage to stop them.
@@t.va.6611 With a gun? It's not Mjolnir armor.
If you run away, he probably won't catch up to you
@@ConstantineJoseph: Not if he from dork soles
From the creators of "Silencers don't actually silence your gun" comes "Medieval armor doesn't actually turn you into a turtle with arthritis"
But silencers actually don’t silence guns
@@empireepic92 I know, and now I know medieval armor doesn't slow you down either
@@Axl4325 let's talk about VSS :D
@@vengefulone6282
Yep. Silencers do actually silence your weapons, but the volume reduced very much depends on the weapon, silencer and ammo design. And of course silencers applied to the conventional guns don’t make them dead quiet like in the movies.
@@Kia044 Look up the definition of silence then the definition of suppress, crazy how the English language has words made for specific situations
The fact my jeans are more constricting than medieval armour makes me severely ashamed and sad.
Then what are you waiting for? Go get some plated armor
Not meme of The week Underrated comment
Its not the jeans fault
errata you’re right, my giant balls do get in the way sometimes
It's a bit like Roman armour which was also good..
Seeing people in full plate mail sprinting and doing acrobatics is something I need more of in my life
He'll I want to do it myself 🙂
Search for “knights in gym”
He will I want to do it myself? @@r3dx226
now i kinda know how guardsmen feel when they see a space marine
Play Dark Souls. It's all about rolling in Armour.
So this is what the skyrim bandit sees sprinting across the tundra.
No, they see Reanu Keeves.
@@mikedanielespeja6128 "I understood that reference."
@@mikedanielespeja6128 Ah, truly a warrior of legend. They say that his shouts have no end. He has slain countless men and dragons alike. He is the legend, Reanu Keeves.
And still thinks, "Eh, I can take him," unless he gets hit by a fear shout or spell.
The ebony gear
I'm sure knights had to train in their Armour too. Dudes would have been some serious tanks.
yep they did, and there was a knight-only free time training before tournaments to climb a really high ladder using only hands (hanging from it) to the castle walls, as flex and show of strength, so ye, maybe medieval people was shorter then we are right now, but the sure thing they where strong as hell
yes you are right, in fact French Knights were so tank that 5000 knights cut through 30,000 ottoman lines without any support from their infantry only to be destroyed because they were surrounded from all sides. They were some of the most fearsome fighting machines in medival times.
Yeah they trained there whole life back then people were in shape
@@Spectrum_Wireless so you obviously know nothing
@Fullmile Gaming yeah
Facking hell, where did the myth that armour restricts mobility come from?
I have worn jeans that restricted me more than those armours did.
Anime.
Hollywood most likely, like most medieval myths.
1800's historians who had this idea that the middle ages were a more primitive time. Seriously, read Mallory's Round table, it's full of crap like that.
Because at first glance, it looks very cumbersome. Its not until you see all the joints, segmentation and overlapping parts that you can fully appreciate how much mobility they have.
trvrdgr1234 guest
No
Seeing this reminds me of one of the Uni Technicians, he used to do medieval re-enactments in full armour. He had some really good stories including one where a little car failed to stop as he was crossing the road and proceeded to wrap itself around his leg. He was fine, the car wasn't. Sadly he passed away just before I graduated.
RIP Colin
Did he die on the battlefield with a bloody longsword in his grip
Yeah sorry about that, he was a good duel tho
But, he would still be experiencing the force of the car as it hit his leg, even for a little car it would of hurt like hell.
That was some well-made armor.
i call bullshit on that story and i do reenacments
Dude running like he saw heresy in the distance.
I've been fucking laughing at this for nearly 40 minutes!
The beginnings of space marines "I heard HERESY and came as quickly as I could"
@@Rae-nm1bp perhaps, 40,000 minutes?
DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT!
*cocks shotgun* son?
I remember my history teacher when I was about 8 years old, she was claiming that medieval knight would not be able to even stand up if fallen. Shame on her for teaching me and my friends bullshit like this.
Same man
There were certain armors that wouldn't allow specific movements, but like 99% of armor was like what's shown in these videos
@@ClearlyInPeril I think the only really constrictive armor was the jousting coaches that were basically stiff metal coffins, but those were for sport. They were at the ass end of the Medieval era so that's probably why people thought they were all like that, as earlier armors weren't found until later
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Yes, that's likely the armor I was thinking of. There's also a story of a king falling from his horse and drowning in like 3 inch deep water, but I don't know if he couldn't get up because of the armor or his weight
Cultural Marxism that's why
**guy in armour does a roll**
Everyone: So you have chosen.... Darksouls.
Its called Fatroling.....
@@nore5992 not with havel's ring it isn't
Now we just need to find someone with enough STR to wield the FUGS.
NoRe nah, that’s more a mid roll. If he was fat rolling, he’d be falling on his back first
Gotta bump up that VIT
There is even more. I have some time ago started walking with a weighted backpack. This is called rucking and is essentially what army soldiers do during training to improve their overall fitness and aerobic capacity.
Over months of regular daily walks I would monitor my heart rate and slowly increase my pace and load to keep my heart rate around my target. My fitness improved to the point where walking with a backpack was less taxing than walking without it before I started my training.
When the weight reached 45 pounds it became painful to walk due to uneven pressure on some parts of my body. I changed the backpack to a weighted vest of the same weight. But now thanks to this vest being *around* my trunk rather than on my back, it became very easy for me to walk around.
I can confidently say that people who wore these contraptions would not have any problem moving around due to weight alone, as long as they also spend enough time each day training in them. Your body can adjust to the load, you learn to move in new ways that take the added load into account and all your muscles, tendons and joints strengthen to withstand it as well as your cardiovascular, aerobic and endurance.
would that not damage your spine or something though
@@doggosuki Nope, unless you something stupid, it will strengthen it over time. Are soldiers or backpackers coming down with spine issues? Not really…
@@doggosukinot really. Your spine is designed to be load bearing.
High impact jumping could damage your knees, but you'd be retarded to think jumping down even a 3ft elevation would be ok. As long as you are avoiding the high impact on your knees, you are good. You will actually increase bone density as well as muscle strength. Pressure on those tissues triggers them to strengthen.
You should google "weight training bines vs normal bones" and typically you can find some pictures. They are thicker and more dense. Its like looking at a piece of wood vs a piece of rock.
great point!
@@leonardmilcin7798 you will have problems with your spine, 100%
00:01 Imagine you’re taking a walk in the woods and you hear some weird metallic noises behind you so you turn around and you see a man in full armor dashing at full speed towards you with his sword out
U//w//U
@Branden Heineman thanks 🙏
Funny enough, if fighting full armored knight, hes gonna prefferably attack your ass on a horse. In that case you have exactly 20 and less seconds to turn the road into agincourt.
Imagine you're taking a *shit* in the woods and you hear...
00:01
I never realized until today how horrifying it would be to see a fully decked out knight charging you at a full sprint.
Even more terrifying if they're astride a horse and it's a mounted cavalry charge.
@@tay2250 and the horse has armour same as the knight, Gothic Knights.
Even more horrifying is that after canons and muskets they just got blown to bits
I was thinking the same thing!!
It's particularly bad if the knight is Sir Lancelot and you're guarding Swamp Castle during a wedding.
Imagine having a knight cartwheeling towards you at terminal velocity.
While the King of the Hill theme blares from somewhere. XD
Well he's about to hit the ground so I wouldn't worry about anything besides not being under him.
@@DoctorInk20 you mean the Benny Hill theme?
XD
OH
*hears the end of the video*
Ok what the fuck HAHAHAHA thats priceless XDD
@@davecrupel2817 Totally! I love that bit. I was going to say "just wait for it". XD
That there's a knight determined to sell you propane and propane accessories. XD
You mean the Isle of Mann flag basically?
I feel like part of the misconception about armor being cumbersome comes from fantasy depictions making armor look like it's three quarters of an inch thick, they'd be carrying around 300 pounds of metal on their bodies. Anytime I've seen real plate armor I'm always shocked how thin it is.
I think its cause its meant to be dense rather than flexible. So yeah it fends of blades easily, even tho its rather thin.
It probably came from jousting armor, which was super heavy and unwieldy as it was made mostly for protection and not for actual combat functionality. It was like 2 to 3 times the weight of battlefield armor.
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 For me it's probably more to do with the fact that people just tend to expect "heavy" armor to be actually incredibly heavy in general due to the reality of modern warfare while errouneously projecting it to medieval warfare.
With tons of think layers, these armors don’t need to be thick to be effective. It’s quite amusing tbh.
It comes from half baked historians in tandem with old TV history channel stuff. I still remember that i saw documentaries where they said and showed knights needing a crane to mount the horse or that they drowned in knee deep mud or water when falling cause they were like turtle.
The whole myth of the dark middle ages where everybody was rolling around in mud also comes from the same people and is still around.
1:41 "And it has to be able to withstand what is perhaps the pinnacle of medieval metallurgy, the L O N G S"
Pretty sure that was "Longsword" and the word was cut off.
@@andyknightwarden9746 Nope, it was the secret weapon of medieval time
Fear the L O N G S
@@half.blight The longs. Such an amazing weapon. Quite versatile too
But did you see how the longs just bounced off the armor.
Yeah the L O N G S were the reason knights always won
So what you're telling me is Dark Souls has accurate armor physics.
Yes
Glances over at a Havel Knight
@@mcdonutboy9817 I mean its stone armor thats thick what do you thinking going to happen
Armor yes weapons not so much
Flufkyn I mean the weapons are used like someone who just picked up a massive sword and started swinging woudl use it
Imagine being on the battlefield and there's an entire line of armored knights cartwheeling towards you.
Actually the Zaporozhian Cossacks used to do just this, right in front of their enemy, before battle. This is recreated in this video:th-cam.com/video/542XpqBy4kY/w-d-xo.html
That actually happened to me, not once, but twice.
We answered with Backflips, and we won! (My captain did some handsprings..but you know..he's the leader and all that...so...pffft)
Havel’s dark wood grain ring
@@-dusan5726 ooo this film is based on a very known polish book
@@lukitommele3798 yes
Plate armor was really a lot less cumbersome than most people think, and it’s protection against blades weapons was unmatched.
What was really an issue is when 8 peasants rushed you with big rocks and clubs and then held you down as they stabbed you through the gaps in your armor, that was no fun.
Filthy peasants not fighting fair 😡
Sounds like you speak from experience
Oh yeah, that happened to my buddy Jeffree last week.
Gone weak at the knees, have you?
Yeah we saw the clip as well
Note to self: when facing an armored knight in battle, wear sunglasses........
I bet that must have been used as a medieval tactic, "blinding the enemy by reflecting the sun into their eyes"
@@pankek5431 alexander did that using shields blinding horse chariots
It also increases your coolness by 100 points
Swords can stab you in the eyes even in armour
The sunglasses help with that
Maybe armoured glasses?
@@DragonPanda4
indeed but it is rather hard to just fit a sword into the visor hole
also sunglasses aren't gonna survive getting smashed by a longsword
Imagine walking in the forest and seeing a full metal men sprinting at you
Me:*Runs in forest saying*GUYS I LIKE STEEL MORE THAN GOLD GUYS
I mean, just sprint in the same direction? You clearly have the advantage in a chase.
In the 15th and 16th century (gothic and renaisance) the plate armor was the most active, but sadly, either you have to be rich enough to afford it ( horse, armor, weapons, clothes under the armor, saddle etc) and that price is equal to modern tank (with different currency, but still a tank) your other option to get it is to loot. The best armory was in german territories (holy roman empire) and italian states. But id recomend for your fattas the italian, since german required for you to be unaturaly slim. They did this by having a certain thing on them. They were still mobile (i believe terrifingly even more so) but german knights had to make themself slim by wearing a piece of clothing that would be later used by women from 18th century to 1930's.
Just say your part of the holy land.
NONE SHALL PASS
I feel like someone is trying to win an argument with their DM.
Yeah not having a speed penalty for heavy armor feels so unrealistic at first glance, but it checks out
At a demo I was in armor and was taking a nap between fights. Someone from my d&D group was present and summoned the DM who was nearby to observe. Sleeping in armor was thus authorized.
Lmao
Type shit
@@defensivekobra3873 You most definetly should have a speed penalty. You're much more agile with cloth on your back and can move more without getting tired but your agility isn't that of a log though.
I think the whole "heavy and immobile" armor stigma was from the time when guns were getting common on the battlefield. They tried to make armor more and more resistant to gunfire and it eventually became too heavy.
Actually no, at the time they just made plate armor for the torso and the hips while trying to make it more resistant but in the end they couldn't outpace the development of gun
Or creator of this clip putted modifications from modern time allowing that armour to be so mobile face it moder replicas are mockery they didnt had stainless steel and swords i saw in museum that are authentic were not from white stainless nasa steel
@@mrbloodylordbaronsamedi.9937 do you really think that the blacksmiths at the time were dumb to not be able to make armor that allowed you to be mobile yet resistant?
the idea of armoured knights being slow and cumbersome is due to the fact that at the time they were described that way because they were slow and cumbersome... compared to unarmoured soldiers. It's only relatively recently, with experimental archeology and whatnot, that we realized this.
Imagine if you tried to describe a tank while only having a car to compare it to.
i personally believe it was primarily due to jousting, since jousting armour is extremely heavy and cumbersome because it might have to take a lance at full speed
more peasants would have seen knights jousting than in battle, so they'd see slow clumsy knights if the contest went to foot
I've always wondered how the idea of armor being heavy, bulky, and restricitng got started. As a professor once told me, armorers were not merely metalsmiths, they were truly engineers.
People talking out their asses mostly.
Probably from several instances taken out of context, for exemple:
1) Armors do look heavy.
2) There were some non-combat ones that were pretty heavy and bulky.
3) While the armor is not nearly as restricted as people tend to think, you were almost completely fucked if you fell in deep water or mud.
A set of plate armour was about 30kgs iirc correctly. So while you could be agile in it, it was still heavy and you'd tire yourself out if you were going full steam the whole time.
Most people consider tournament armor and combat armor the same thing
@@acorr14 well knights were elite athletes.
Fair Maiden: “Did you bring protection?”
Knight: “I am protection”
Lmao
Soon after: sells armour to raise child
@@futsk01 child finds his father's sword in the old chest in the attic *quest complete*
Maybe you're been over protective
TRIPLE entendre. That’s rare.
Full plate armor stats:
Defence: +10
Stealth: no.
Don't you mean 18?
Stealth: -1000000
Just cast silence
Just put a silencer on your armor. Video game logic approves
-1 mobility
Medieval metal craftsman were just amazing. Really must appreciate the skill required to create such armor.
The effectiveness of plate armor during a zombie apocalypse is slept on
True
Lmao true. Was just thinkin about this the other day
Zombies have opposable thumbs though 🤔
But here's the thing
People
If it's armor like it's shown on the video
Then almost any bullet would ne able to pierce it, but if it's renaissance era armor then small calibre bullets would be stopped by it.
@@beans8479 yeah but if the zombies or inFeCTed were large scale, then you would have less people to think about
So this proved that dark souls dodging can be a real thing
Yeah you can but you don't get any invincibility frames though.
@@jaywyse7150 ah yes of course
@@jaywyse7150 you can't prove that maybe they just haven't rolled with the right timing.
But they are fat rolling.
GrandAdoboMan need to put more points in Vitality
The blacksmiths and engineers back then were surprisingly talented. Can’t be no easy task to make a tank armor for men that they can actually move in.
Many recent advancements in engineering have been because calculators/computers have made it faster to do iterative calculations. A lot of principles have remained the same for millenia. Engineers and skilled laborers had the skills and talent, they just didn’t have the tools quite yet.
SeanDaNerd very true
Each set of historic plate armor is a ingenious work of craftsmanship and brilliant engineering in its own right. To me the armorers and blacksmiths that forged and fitted these plated armors were no less epic tier!
Agreed. Even full armored samurai is heavy
Agreed
I am not surprised as a retired soldier. 50 pounds of deadweight on your body vs. 80-120 pounds of deadweight on your shoulders is an amazing difference. I am very impressed with their ability to perform in full plate. It was, after all, the M1 Abrams technology of its time. Unexpected results. 😮
Nonsense, M1 Abrams is a tank that simply cannot be destroyed, its armour is impervious to anything while this medieval armour can be defeated easily.
@@SMGJohn_Secondary Finally beaten Black Ops 1 on Veteran, have you?
I agree
The difference being that the plate armour's physical protection actually worked, was weight efficient and was worth the investment in the Medieval Period as opposed to the M1 Abrams or any modern MBT for that matter.
@@SMGJohn_Secondary M1 Abrams definitelly can be destroyed by like 1000 of other weapons.
"I don't want to wear armor, it slows me down"
0:00 *Lemme tell u sumthin*
Literally everyone I know says they would wear chain mail at most because it's just "too clunky"
BUSTIN' MAKES ME FEEL GOOD
BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN
LEMME TELL YO-
I feel like that'd be 1:25 if anything
One also has to consider the fact that the knights themselves spent most of their days training and were probably in much better physical shape than the average person today
Professional Murder is hard work. Gotta be in tip top shape for it.
Probably? The average person has the speed, reaction time and reflexes of a dead lizard. Im pretty sure training was more intense back then too
@@_ChrisPBacon_ unlikely
They knew fuckall about nutrion and body mechanics
@shooty tooty gun with big magazine they compare it with the regular human from today not with athletes and everyone who does sport is fitter then the average lets say US american or then the average european.
I'm sure that almost any of the people back then that were not malnourished or sitting in a position of power had veins busting out of every muscle. Ex stepdad was an alcoholic and had terrible eating habits but never left the farm and had a more solid physique than someone who does crossfit 5 days a week. The random peasant woodcutter or bricklayer without monsters and snack cakes would likely be among high end high school athlete level.
0:02 Imagine just hiking through the forest at a nice sunny day, and a metal duck just runs after you with a freekin longsword...
QUACK VULT
*I AM SPEED*
*HEARD YOU WAS TALKIN MAD HERESY*
*Peace Was Never An Option*
Now imagine him also yelling "THAT WASNT A DRAGON"
thought this was going to be a funny compilation of people stuck in armor, ended up being a thoroughly educational piece about the actual mobility of medieval armor
Imagine looking out your window and seeing a man in his back garden dressed in full metal armour doing star jumps.
ght ima gonna head out
I would make that man my best friend
Lmfao Star jumps? That a UK thing?
I've only heard those being called jumping jacks. Star jumps make sense though
I think I prefer calling it Star Jumps now.
Everyone in a zombie apocalypse movie: wears cloth. gets bitten. dies.
Me:
I always wonder the refusal to wear armor in zombie apocalypse
@@AnonymusEngineer granted, getting crushed under hoards of 100 bodies probably isn't a better scenario.
@@DTux5249
I didn’t say fight 100 zombie at once i meant when they are defending a building and one zombie sneaks behind them then the armor will come handy
@@AnonymusEngineer
True, but generally being able to move is better. Especially in "walking dead" type universes. Of course this vid proves that to not be the case, but stereotypes
And honestly, given how deaf these characters are, i think armour is the least of their priorities.
Like, in no mainstream universe have I seen quiet zombies and they somehow sneak up on people.
Regardless, characters have to be able to move quickly at a moment's notice, and because "armour makes you slow" (at least by their universes logic) it's better to keep light to avoid the horde
@@DTux5249
You have a point but one thing you forgot to mention is that armor is noisy so sneaking around can be difficult but what I’m talking about is when someone staying in the base defending... and some survivors or “base members” are coming back with a horde chasing them. So if you put it this way:
Ten armored men with automatic fire mode on or single fire for ammo saving.. encounter a horde coming from obviously one side. And the defenders attack!! The defenders will eventually reload and lose sight of some the undead in the horde... so if they lost sight of the horde then they might get attacked from behind.... depending on the structure and how the zombies can get in so maybe zombies will crawl from holes or tunnels and get behind the defender and since the defender can’t hear anything and maybe one of their own men dies without noticing anything!! So I would say armor is for a “scenario” that has a 17% chance of occurring once each raid... then armor is there for that scenario.
But scouting is best without armor ( like you said you need best mobility possible)
Pro tip: in order to do push-ups in plate armour you must already be able to do them without plate armour. Plate armour does not grant you the ability to do them.
:'-(
Hey thank you I was wondering about that
oh... do they not grant you bonus attributes?
Who would think that?
@@SeverinHawkland7855 I think this was a joke regarding many fantasy based games where armor grants the wearer "strength" along with other attributes. Of course this isn't the case in real life where armor does nothing other than protect your body from harm.
It’s still pretty damn cool that even a small portion of the world back then used full on armor like this. Shows you how good human ingenuity was back then, and it’s crazy that we have technology more advanced than this.
An important thing to remember is that armor and weapoms always were developed to suit the regions of the wearers. It is documented that heavy metal armored conquistadors eventually started wearing the central american armors because their giant tin cans basically cooked them alive and was hard to navigate dense jungle and swamp in. While the native armor wasn't as "advanced" it fit the region it was made for by being light and letting air flow.
@@kid14346 That imagery of Conquistadors wearing native armor always gives me 60s Vietnam vibes. Also, another thing I wanna support with is they used horses and were a very small population in every battle they were in, using other tribes for much of their manpower. Full armor would only be useful if they were seiging or defending behind walls, which much of the native depiction of Spaniards in full armor were during those 2 types of warfare - and more notably, during diplomacy.
@@kid14346 the native armor was pretty much the same as early medieval gambesons. While lighter armor came to be preferred (depending on which land they were conquering), they never abandoned steel plate. They just reserved it for more special occassions, like cavalry charges.
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 I never said they fully abandoned, just that many foot soldiers adapted by taking armor from slain enemies or creating their own lighter armor inspired by the native's armor.
00:44 medieval version of the racking of a shotgun sound
*Shutting visor down with religious intent*
Stands there menacing with religious intent
Truuuuuuuu
Dumb lol I love it
Bread boys reference
Imagine how ungodly loud battlefields had to be with all these armor sets clangin’ and bangin’ around.
The screams of people will drown everything else though.
@@edryctan672 Poetic, my friend.
I’m sure bombs nowadays are slightly louder
Battles have always been a loud business. The clash of weapons, clanging of armour and shields, screams of the dying and injured, frenzied battle cries, officers attempting to shout out orders amidst the chaos, etc.
The only “quiet” battlefield, I think, are assassinations.
@@1003JustinLaw I’m picturing being in a village maybe a mile or two away from the battlefield and hearing at least faint cries and noises, if not ones clear as a bell, as I wait to see who’s victorious.
1:50 "Honey, can you see what the hell that racket outside is?"
"Yeah, it's just the neighbor testing his plate armor again."
She actually said, "Honey, can thou seest, what the hell yonder racket anon?"
@@Agent1W I want to give you a like but you're sitting at 34 likes and I don't want to be the one to mess that up
@@EvilPaladin11 What's special about the number 34?
@@Agent1W You're not familiar with rule 34 of the internet?
@@EvilPaladin11 Yes, but I still don't get it.
0:33 dude is midrolling
when i saw him roll i immediately thought of that
you literally made the comment i was looking for
Light Armor Trainers: You'll be able to run circles around those big slow brutes in heavy armor.
Big Slow Brutes in Heavy Armor:
Isn't heavy armor really thick
@@SCP--rj8hm no the knights were
2:18
@@salihthefirst4132
😳
@@pancytryna9378 LMFAO
Knights in game: Somewhat slower than average walkspeed because of the "heavy" armor they wear
Knights in real life: Ooh, you think I'm slow just because I have armor on, eh? *Well, let me teach you a lesson boy*
then they sprint towards you with swords in hand, ready to kill you.
If they dont have their armor, i wonder how fast a medieval knight can run.
A knight in full heavy plated armor with a halberd is definitely slower than a unarmored knight with just a longsword
Thing is the difference isn't something massive and even if the armor weight makes your stamina drain as if you have a heart disease the fact you don't have to dodge 90% of all incoming blows means you'll still get tired slower than an unarmored dude who must dodge everything or die/lose a limb
But I'm pretty sure that it is very stamina draining
oh, no, they were definitely slower, but not slow enough to don't make you run for your ass
The chances of you being killed by running knight are low... but never zero.
2022 Edit: Why the fuck did this blow up so much? I was half asleap when I wrote this.
Well... you’d be able to hear them before they even got close enough. No ambush, stealth, or element of surprise.
When you’re in a forest and you hear “ * clank clank clank * “, start running. Best chance is hiding and making an escape while the tin man gives away his location, but you might have a stamina advantage. Even if they are mobile, having an additional 30-ish pounds to your every movement has to be taxing.
But I will admit that the thought of hearing steadily approaching clanking is really fucking funny.
@@Rehaaaaaaan Some people were killed in Canada a week ago, by a guy wearing armor and a sword. The odds are never zero.
say that to the medieval peasants
@@Roger-rh5lu The fuck? That actually happened?
@@So__far__away__ I'm not a politician, I don't need to lie
Armor always has some restriction on mobility, but considering how many methods there were to defeat armor back then, it'd be very stupid to repeatedly design armor that's meant to fight in with low mobility. At the very least, those people probably didn't come back.
0:27
*does a fireman’s carry*
Crowd not impressed
*does a cartwheel*
Crowd not impressed
*rolls*
Crowd gives a standing ovation
Guess we all know which video game they like.
Underrated
Souls games.
@@bandit2777 lol
Barbie’s horse adventure?
They were just waiting for the whole demonstration to finish. Like judges dont start clapping when a gymnast does one jump or flip, they wait until they finish
0:33
Did he just fat roll?
Someone needs to upgrade his stats
Its more of a mid roll, he’s got a decent amount of VIT
Well considering he didn't fucking break his back in the process, it really was more of a mid roll
Nice badge
What is a fat roll?
Why is this video 5 years old and theres comments from 9 min ago
This is why I love DND’s take on plate armor.
Speed? Dexterity? Acrobatics? Not affected at all.
Stealth however…..
1:07
Yep it's not the best at that
@@Romeo_of_Romelution I think the Knights must have had a separate unit for stealth, probably...
Plate armor does affect speed and dexterity though… the added weight alone inhibits you to some extent even if its not very heavy. You also have to keep in mind the mail and gambeson that you wear underneath. This may all be too specific and nitpicky for DnD rules (I do not play it), but it does seem a bit weird that speed and dexterity wouldn’t be at all affected.
@@Mr_Man_7803 there is a minimum strength to wear if I recall correctly. It’s the strength where those downsides are negligible due to having superior strength.
@@joshuaseibert4553 Even so, the extra mass added by the armour means you need to apply a greater force to accelerate. Even if this wouldn't compromise speed or dexterity, this certainly would require more stamina/
People probably mistake jousting armour as the real wartime armour. Those competition armour are heavy and thicker. Knights train hard and prepared for their day in the battlefield and are part of the nobility in addition to being the “special forces” of the army, surely they would demand and have authority to demand armourers to make armours that will showcase their hardwork and skills.
1:07 my dog when I decide to chill and get comfy next to them.
Underrated lmao
I think your dog is a cat dude
Red Flag dude why is the watermelon so *_RED_*
Did you try turning it off and on again?
So 1:15 is when you get up and your dog follows you then?
Me: Picks up item in an Oblivion shopkeepers store to look at it better
Every guard in Cyrodil: 0:00
LMBO
*nuts*
STOP! You violated the law!
0:00 doesn't work
The crime system in Oblivion..it's so bad I adore it
1:24 when he receives a letter from his maiden saying she's alone in the castle
lmfao
Maiden: Do be a dashing knight and come soothe my aching bosom.
1:07
Hahahaha
Then arriving and seeing that the maiden is "in another castle".
1:13 when the maiden in the distance flashes her elbow
Almost like armor was designed for humans to move in...
U sure?
That would be crazy
An insanely underrated comment
thats wild
impossible...
"Come over"
"Can't I'm busy"
"The Saracens have returned to Jerusalem"
0:01
Underrated comment lmao
*deus vult intensifies*
deus vult brother
lol
LMFAO
It's always a pain to see historical inventions get ripped apart as having inane or ridiculous flaws that they simply don't have. Ancient societies were (relatively) poor, not stupid.
I feel this way about firearms alot. I can't explain how frustrating it is trying to explain weapons technology to someone who thinks people in the past were idiots because they were using muzzle loaders in wars and multi barreled pepper boxes for self defence instead of magazine fed automatic firearms.
Granted there were alot of dumb creations of the past and unfortunately those always seem to get the spotlight.
They were pretty stupid. But they knew how to live in their stupid times, decently. Slashing your neighbors with large blades and deciding it is normal, is not smart. Not taking baths, not smart. These people are not smart, they are super uneducated. But they are not genuinely stupid, just really god damn uneducated.
Pretty damn stupid still actually.
honestly there are more dumb creations today than there were in the past
They were stupid enough not to create Call of Duty all those years ago
@@SpeedKing.. probably because the dumb creations in the past are forgotten and not posted on the Internet.
Armor of that era was never a problem of mobility. It was the problem of "I can't see a damn thing with this bloody helmet on".
Hence why the helmets had visors.....
They could move a lot quicker if they’d only equip Havels ring
Either that or they could optimize their builds. Smh fuckin casuls
😂😂
"I understood that reference"
Nice 😂😂
Or they just need to get gud and go naked like a pro
1:16 Imagine there's a break in a chaotic battle and you and this guy lock eyes and he decides you're his next target
A One Man Crusade has chosen YOU as today's conversion target.
I have one thought:
“FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK”
*induced panik*
Yeah, f that lol
POV: Your eyes lock on to another Pokémon trainer
Imagine being some cannon fodder soldier who takes down a knight's horse, and the second you think the rider was crushed by his horse turning over, the man, in full plate armor, is sprinting at full speed towards you with a short sword.
As far as i am aware tho, people usualy avoided killing horses, because they were an expensive resource. It was much better to kill the rider and take the horse as a prize.
They didn't attack alone tho. They usually drag a knight off a horse and then stab into his joints. Pretty nasty.
@Paragon Robbie imagine you are a medieval knight in full armor and you fall into like 5 feet of mud during a battle. Good luck! It's not without its disadvantages lol
*YOU DARE KILL MY FUCKING HORSE* ?!
@@yuuta6563 Yes and no, the nobility could take a defeated knights horse, the common soldiery could not their commanders would just confiscate any stolen warhorse they took from the enemy, I highly doubt a common pike dragger or archer could afford to keep a large and powerful warhorse anyways.
Not to mention the practicality of it, I don't care if that horse is worth money, if a mounted enemy came charging me down with the intent to skewer me on his lance and the only good target I have is too jam my bill or pike into his horse then I'm doing it, money be damned.
My son just learned in school that knights could not get up off the ground without several people helping. So I showed him this. Which somehow didn't convince hime. But bloop is totally real.... I just... I can't even with kids.
Well this is one TH-cam video that doesn't seem to have used any of the actual armor from the period, nor even specified the time period, so it's not exactly scientific evidence.
@@myblacklab7you're kidding, right? Literally everything you said is wrong
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 It isn't a TH-cam video?
Because I said it's a TH-cam video, and if literally everything I said is wrong, then I must be wrong about that.
I literally don't think that the word "literally" means anything anymore.
@@myblacklab7Several of those harness are from world renowned armourers costing $20k+ and even then they are often not of the same quality as the originals. If anything it underplays the mobility of good harness.
@@leeecraven488 Thank you for expressing your opinion. I suppose there is a lot of information out there about the subject, but not much of that information made its way into this video.
"Babe come over"
"I can't, we're besieging a castle today"
"My Lord is out on a diplomatic mission"
1:25
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0:00 POV of a Dark Souls boss.
POV of a hollow archer reloading
Every roll a circle press
Lmaooooo
Dude this is so underrated
The Stranger I’m crying right now lol
It's almost as if when people started creating armor they wanted to make sure they could actually fight in it 🤔
I'd definitely min max my way to victory if I were to go back to the medieval times. Why bother with mobility when you can have an impenetrable coffin of steel to guard your life? Sure, I couldn't hurt anybody, but nobody can hurt me, either!
@@davidreeding9176 wouldn't blunt weapons would be devastating to armor.
@@waltersobchak4565 not if it's think enough
@@davidreeding9176 the problem would be your joints, too much armor and you'd be giving up your ability to defend effectively from someone stabbing your armpits.
Unless you armor your armpits (armorpits?) in which case you can't move your arms and have to kickbox people like the Black Knight
@@davidreeding9176 The enemy would promptly capture you with ease and set your steel box armor on top of a fire pit, leaving you to cook inside of your steel sarcophagus Brazen Bull style.
The chances of a knight in full plate armour charging you randomly are low....
But never zero.
When dark souls is more accurate than most movies.
Yes, thats the problem :/ and some peaple be like: nAH NaH NAh tHEi CaNd MoFE iN ThySs!.! yTz 75 KilOGrAm, nAH!
@@Krevet_The2 Don't do that.
@@Krevet_The2 What I find funny is that people often say Chainmail is better for movement, but that's incorrect as well.
Plate armor is simply superior in almost all ways from a combat perspective. (Now from a combat readiness / economics stand-point you can make a case for chainmail.)
69th like.
@@ocek2744 the thing is, soldiers/ knights left the castle fully armored and armed, in long treks and runs, a fully armored knight will always be more tired than just foot soldiers in chainmail/ leather, not only when leaving castle, but in the middle of battle too
I love how the armor confirms my suspicions that their wars would sound a lot like ours today but, instead of gunshots and explosions, it’s just the indescribable clinking and clanking of metal being struck against itself.
Not really. Most people in wars didn't have much armor or if they did, it was very light compared to plate armor. It wouldve been something more like a very thick jacket, chain mail, or a thick jacket plus some metal parts in certain areas. An entire army of knights wearing full plate armor wouldve just been impossible in most circumstances. It would sound more like a lot of screams and banging against wood because metal was just too expensive to armor everyone
Oh, so it’s just a bunch of people hitting each other with sticks. Cool. Just like kindergarten.
@@pungoblin9377 generally the sticks were sharp or had metal tips like spears but basically yeah. Or they used siege weapons if they were trying to take something well fortified like a castle or city. Bows and arrows were also used in certain places and they were way more brutal than most people think
Pun Goblin might sound like grunting, swords clanging, horses, flags flapping, feet stoming ground, and shields banging, probably loud as fuck tho
No, the epic music used to play in the background.
Boss: *breathes*
Dark souls player: 0:32
XD
Blade of Darkness
Edit: so, bod is not forgotten?
In Dark souls, the boss breathing can probably kill you.
@Seraphi Grimaldi that's like a mid roll in ds1
fr
People seem to think that, because they are out of shape, and couldn't lug that armor around, so were knights... The knights wore it all time and trained in their armor, so they built up tons of muscle to move it.
1:46 ahh yes, the Pinnacle of medieval metallurgy, The Long swo -- *clang clang clang*
Which is why much harder hitting or piercing weapons evolved to deal with plate armor. Estoc, various polearms, etc.
The pinnacle of medieval metallurgy was their most advanced armors. In comparison, the longsword is a joke.
@@xandercorp6175 that’s why in late medieval most knights against each other would use the bonk
@@cliffordthefossilizeddog is bonk mace, warhammer or poleaxe
@@pluggothesluggo5509 it’s all three
When you’re retaking the holy land and she says she’s home alone
2:20
@@ricechido1089 holy land of course, bros before hoes
Full plate armor weren't used by crusader.
She is but just a moment
Yet...
The holy land is ETERNAL
@@leverite6127 This guy gets it 😂
"Guard might get nervous, a man approaches with his weapon drawn..."
"citizen"
Let me guess someone stole your sweetroll
"Psst, I know who you are... Hail sithis!
Wait! I know you...
"Watch the skys, traveler"
That armour actually weighs less than what the majority of modern soldiers carry on the battlefield.
And that's why Dark Souls is *_MOSTLY_* realistic regarding armor and mobility
Edit: *Bold* and _italics_
DS starts off realistic but then gets ridiculous pretty quickly. In the beginning you are rolling around in typical leather and plate armor but very soon you are rolling in full Havel's and swinging weapons that would swing you in real life.
Imitation Krabs to be fair, a lot of those lategame armor and weapons tend to require ridiculously high stats to use properly without the use of magical items like Havels Ring.
I doubt most humans go around sporting Chaos Zweihanders with only 16 STR
I have always thought dark souls does a great job, for a game, of blurring the line between somewhat realistic medieval combat and complete fantasy
99 vitality be like
0:33
My guess is that what people conceived as "Knight armor" was often confused with Jousting armor which is considerably thicker, heavier and much less flexible. It was made specifically for two riders to bash into one another.
One dummy on a horse trying to knock another dummy off a horse with a big damn stick LOL
Yea, didn't teutonic cavalry have half a meter thick armor? My memory is foggy
@@RandomPerson-hd6wr No.
@@RandomPerson-hd6wr Half a meter? Have you ever SEEN how long a meter is? That would be impossibly thick
@@croma2068 yea idk what I was saying, still don't know how thick it was but I remember it being very thick
1:24 running back from the bonfire to the boss room after dying many times
Lol i remember those times in dark souls 1 good times of summoning randoms and being smashed by smough
Making such heavy materials feel light is truly masterful.
Some of the combat aviation does that trick too.
"Squire?"
"Yes, milord?"
"I need to pee"
😂
I read somewhere the heavily armoured knights had no choice but to just shit and piss in their pants due to the hassle of removing their armour.
@Golden Robodude Yes I would definitely have enlisted as an archer.
@Golden Robodude You sound like an entertainer, perhaps a Battle Bard. Equipped with the sword of destiny and the... banjo of justice.
@Golden Robodude Catch up with the champs young buck.
1:25 when you just finished slaying a dragon with the boys but have work in 5 minutes.
relatable
But slaying the dragon isn’t his job?
@@wokeuplikethis7729 just a hobby
@@qwertyasdf9290 PETA is gonna be mad about medieval knights
Her majesty : Come, thee Roy and Queen aren't present
Thou : Nay, I must anwser to Papal orders from the Church
Her Majesty : Mine chastity belt is off
Thou :
A man of true culture I see
only medieval people find this funny
@@frel-hi9yi me prehistoric
1:15
Only 1300's kids will understand
I know some guys that were big into the SCA. Of of them was a man mountain who looked like a 240 pound tree stump. I saw him do a standing backflip while wearing a full suit of plate armor. It wasn't as fancy as the stuff this guy was wearing either but it would have weighed roughly the same. So yeah, the guys who are used to wearing that armor could move pretty well in it.
These Mark 1 Iron Man suit cosplays are getting good
Lollll yooooooo
That was five years ago. Wait till you see actual men cosplay of Mark 1 suits
Oh hello
So do u mean that Iron man mark 1 was actually a reincarnated medival armour! LMAO!🤣🤣
I sure would hope so, I mean Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave. With a box of scarps!
Blacksmith: What can I do for you?
Lancelot: I want to be able to run with scissors..
Massively underated comment haha
Nice👏👏👏👏🙏
@ARHN HIDE Blades, helmets, pretty much anything to suit your needs.
Arthur: My Knights of the Round, we have come to a dire time. Gareth lays dead, Guinevere has left me, and Morgann plots my demise.
But by far the greatest sin of all has been committed by our once greatest knight, Sir Lancelot.
Bedivere: What did he do?...you know, besides killing Gareth.
Arthur: He has done a most grievous act...he has... *_broken the hallway safety regulations._*
Mordred: Damn, that's pretty brutal.
@@Overlordough1201 is this fgo related
"hey honey im gonna go for a run in the woods".
"Are you gonna wear that stupid tincan again?"
-"Nooooo."
“stupid tin can?” sir, you need a new wife.
"alright have fun then"
me: 00:44
Cat the Destoryer agreed
Its 2am,you're eating leftovers with the lights out and a subtle metallic noise catches your attention. You turn and see a suit of armour sprinting at you
Theres something so terrifying about not being able to see someone's face. 00:40 He goes from soul possessing, innocent youth to soul-less Harbringer of Death in .2 seconds.
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The same thing with modern soldiers wearing gas masks etc. it’s a scary sight
Uuuh. Ok
Someone say.. *soul*-less????
Because you can’t see his face and can’t take cues to tell you what he’s thinking and he becomes not only “blank” in “expression” but also a danger because he’s unpredictable.
Imagine ramming someone with full body armor at full speed.
BeardedDoc that's like getting hit by a cabinet in the face....
Now add a horse and a sharp lance!
Well play professional american football as a noob, pretty much the same effect.
fatality
Someone took the Pain Train perk...
Dude wasn't even fat rolling, that was a solid mid roll
He obviously has Havel's ring.
@@fz000ghost8 Lmao
I see mans of culture here
@@fz000ghost8 I see you are a man of culture as well
@@fz000ghost8 just what I thought
1:24 this running should be meme lol
Looks like that holy grail scene
Knights in media/entertainment: Walking coffins ready to collapse and die any moment.
Knights in reality: One man army that is the equivalent to a tank to modern standards
@Oak-tail Even better, a lance at full speed.
Imagine a strong guy with a battle horse, automatic firing weapon and knight armor.
@@sweetricecakeman8582 The knight is wearing armor made out of Kevlar and is riding an armored motorcycle which is also made out of kevlar
@Oak-tail and in battles they charge as a group. So it's more like 200 motorcycles charging at you at full speed. Hence it's effectiveness in medieval times
yeah almost like people in the past actually studied combat and wanted to win, right?
Now I truly get why it gives you disadvantage on stealth checks
Medieval maraca
“ChIcSHIKASHIKSHK”
I mean, you didn't get that before now?
You didn't see any issue with trying to sneak around the back of shops with hulking great battle armour on?
Dnd memes...... Nice
@@WhoThisMonkey I hope you're not genuinely asking that question.
We're all here to prove a friend wrong, aren't we.
Aye mate
Ayyyyeeee
Who isn't?
Not me, I don't have any friends.
Checkmate
based
That little clip at the end is probably the most wholesome thing I'll se today. Regardless, really great and informative video
Plate Armor is literally the first form of Pay to Win.
Yeah, but the Chinese update destroyed the whole meta.
What about horses?
@@panqueque9750 that was a free DLC pack only available in Mongolia
Patrolling the medieval castle almost makes you wish for a crusader attack.
The second was called "indulgences"
1:43 POV: You’re a Dark Souls boss
Haha, thanks for the chuckle! Here’s a like 👍🏻😂
XXDDDD
Roll
1:25 POV: you're a normal enemy on the path to the boss
Famous last words:
*don’t worry he can’t run fast*
The last thing you see: 0:01
Hey don’t worry mate it’s plate armor he can’t run OH MY GOD RUN
He would at least tire out more quickly than you, with no armour on, would - assuming that you are as fit as him (which admittedly is a big assumption).
@@laamonftiboren4236 woooosh
@@interwestingstuffinterwest6459 Oh really? Do tell.
Imagine you are committing heresy and suddenly a blockade of fully armored knights begin cartwheeling towards you