@@thewind652 theoretical, hear me out, in a real situation, and you ha e a sword along with the other person, there’s really no fair hits. You kinda just get cut or cut. Unless you’re talking about toxic sportsmanship in sparring and swordplay. Then the only reason people are toxic Is cause people are fricking stupid
@@schrodinger1122 my own stupidity amazes me. I didnt understand the first half of your reply(i think you mean fighting with actual sword with the intent of murdering each other, in which case if its a joke then touche, you actually made my chuckle thinking of that possibility.) but the second half, i totally agree with you.
@@schrodinger1122 Your welcome. Unless you're being an A-hole youself, i see no reason to be toxic in a youtube comment section, be respectful to me and i'll be respectful to you. But i understand that there are alot of toxic people and trolls on youtube and the internet in general. Just ignore them, and let them be clowns.
Yeah, imagine back in the day how it was for these foot soldiers fighting in all these conquests and battles. One wrong move, get unlucky once and you're a goner. I'm glad I wasn't born back then.
No actually . Its would not end up in this fast . Because usually people put on armor to their arm, torso and head . So cuts like those in the video would not kill . Especially if its a steel plate armor . Average conquest usually last minimum of 3 hours . Depending on the equipment and skill mostly
@@muhammadamirun3777 Sounds to me like you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about, have you ever been cut by a sword? No. So shut the fuck up.
@@muhammadamirun3777 well not really, and it depends upon the place and time period of the world. if you're talking the middle ages, only nobles and land owners would have been knights while the peasants that would have been mass recruited for the war (take for example the english in the hundreds year war) would be wearing none to little armor. most of the time people in armor would die because their horses died, and they couldn't get up. it was not fast.
@@funkygamer2251 i actually have been cut by sharp blade . While wearing leather armor . And suprisingly, my hand is still healthy and well up to this day . Unlike your judgemental brain of yours . Seems damaged by stupidity
Being a martial artist and always rolling my eyes when someone says "You can disarm a knife from an attacker", this footage proves you need to be Matrix level reflexes from defending yourself from a sword, mind you it's bigger than a knife, heavier to boot and expert practitioners narrowly avoid the barely predictable slashes. Now try doing that with something smaller, easier to hide, faster to deploy and attack with, yeah there's no way a person can disarm a knife attack. It great seeing each practitioner calling out a proper blow. Allows both parties to learn and grow.
The best defense against a knife is not being within knife distance. Fiore has a *FEW* grabs against dagger but even they're known as a sorry-chance of working, plus, Fiore is all about joint locks and breaks. If you grab their arm you might as well break it...if you've not died of blood loss from the 4 stabs your enemy has already landed.
Sword seems like a strange comparison though. I'd much prefer my chances against a knife than a sword. A sword moves way faster than any knife. A tiny flick of the wrist can make the sword tip move extremely quickly and unpredictably. And all the while, the swordman is at a distance out of your reach. A knife moves at the speed of the hand and has shorter range. Now to be sure, I understand perfectly that my chances against a knife are next to nill as well, but there's the ever so slim chance you might get a chance to grap the knife attacker's hand and get into some kind of grappling, especially if he's just some guy that just picked up a knife and doesn't know what he's doing. And there have been rare cases of people surviving knife attacks like that.
The thing is, you can stop a knife, right? It's basically the same as catching a punch. But if you knew someone was going to punch you would you REALLY risk getting hit on your ability to grab their fist out of the air or something? PROBABLY NOT. It's doable, but it's just so hard that you'd never actually want to do it unless it's an absolute last resort. The best defense against any knife attack will always be to just run the fuck away and hope you run into someone that can help you deal with the madman chasing you with a fucking knife!
As a boxer I hear a lot of people say it looks easy, even I myself thought so before my first fight, but people fail to take into account that When you are experienced u can literally see untrained punch from half a mile away. So yeah basically I think a sabre which can be swung twice as fast as a fist with just a flick of the wrist is a totally different degree of skill. Kudos to y’all for the great sportsmanship too. Edit: thanks for the likes, I wasn’t expecting so much attention! 🤣😊😂
People say that real sparring wouldn't be cinematic enough or "cool looking" but every time i watch this video i remember why i STRONGLY disagree.. The speed, the concentration, the harmony... Just wow. Very intense.
were literally watching some of the best sword fencers in the world. The fact that they are literally trying to strike each other, but they make it look like its a choreographed movie fight: Absolutely legendary
@@kepspark3362 if you unga bunga smash them, you will probably hit them "fatally", but also you will definitely get hit "fatally". hence, the old adage of master swordsmen being more scared of untrained people (who move more unpredictably and with less self-preservation) than their fellow trained swordsmen self preservation is emphasised over landing hits, they need to get an opening before committing to a strike
@@myusername3689 to be fair to those guys, spears can also defeat master swordsmen more easily, especially in teamfights spears, polearms, and just having range in general is pretty OP
For real. The movement of the sword looks a bit random for the untrained eye. I guess with practice you get used to it, but also boxing has a lot of depth into it different from this
I always come back to this video. It’s like a dance between two perfect partners. The sportsmanship, the technique, the visible joy and yet holding nothing back in your swift actions. It’s as if you were made for this, like your blades are no more than extensions of yourself. Bravo
Depends on the type of gear and the fighters ofcourse, but this would be what experienced low armored saber fighting would look like. Although the dont use.their off hand, while in real life people would tend to have at least a buckler on their off hand
@@CytheSwordSwallower the channel “blood and iron HEMA” is the channel for the club that the guys in the video (maybe used to) run, it’s got a good amount of sparring footage with a lot of variety, their top video, the 2v1 is good
Imagine going at it for real, sharp blades - clothing that probly did dick for protection and the cost of losing was death, blindness, and being disabled for the rest of your life....oh humanity, what will you do next?
Was researching actual sword sparring matches to get an understanding of how they will actually look, it's super helpful to see from both a POV perspective and a third person perspective.
I have been a long time epee fencer, and have known Olympic saber medalists. I have watched my share of modern saber fencing. This is entirely different and I believe much, much closer to the reality. What is amazing to me is how much "cleaner" this sport is. Mostly single scores, instead of both landing but the point awarded on the basis of artificial rules. Well done! I truly enjoyed watching this.
Its something you find about sports, they dont truly reflect the historical combat. This and Lars anders works really show how the sports are different from what was actually done in combat.
@@shrimp562 your promise is worth nothing. An olympic fencer would do better than someone with no experience initially and become really good at it with practice. The same applies if you swapped the roles of the olympic and hema Fencer. None of the arts are technically superior on, they are both specialized for different things.
Yes i was thinking about the same thing. Imagine you are a young pirate and some other pirate invades your ship then you have to fight with sword. Thats scary
@@ashuyl Who said english is his mother language? You r 2 steps behind him. Na próxima vez que quiser bancar o professor de inglês, tente aprende a lingua dele
Hans Mustermann Ihr Deutsch scheint aber auch nicht gerade fehlerfrei zu sein. Aber was soll‘s, jeder macht mal Fehler, besonders wenn man wütend ist. Bezüglich ihrer Kritik an der Kampftechnik, polnische Säbel sind für den Kampf ohne Rüstung ausgelegt, und insbesondere die Schnitte aus dem Handgelenk können auf ungerüsteten Körperteilen schnell und unerwartet schwere Verletzungen verursachen.
He's wearing a skull, just one so it's not gothic/emo style, and he's playing the crazy funny flamboyant Character ... he's definetly looking up to Jack Sparrow.
Kind of corny, and the flair is a bit predictable especially on the counterattacks, could lead to getting hit and dying pretty quick in a real fight. There was a fairly notable difference in skill between the two fighters though, and thats why it seemed to work out fine so many times.
@@ShadowQrow i mean even if he isnt in a fight to the death it would still cost him points against a better opponent, and i personally think its disrespectful to treat any duel any differently from a fight to the death even if it is a facilitated event and stuff. If youre engaging someone in combat, either physically or mentally, regardless of the consequences of losing, both competitors should give their absolute best and try their absolute hardest to win, out of respect and appreciation for the struggle it took for each competitor to reach the level of skill each has achieved, and for having the guts to "step in the ring" with eachother, so to speak, and have a contest of ability against eachother. It just seems a little annoying to have someone not take me seriously like that if i were to face them, especially if i was losing to them. It could almost come off as patronizing. There was a kid like that on my fencing team in high school who did that stuff and i remember having such a big ego and being a total asshole in general, win or lose. After a win he would turn away after shaking hands with his opponent and start bragging to me and the rest of the team and berating the other fencers skills, and if he lost hed bitch and moan and complain and make up excuses. It felt like his flamboyant style was a perfect manifestation of that flashy, egotistical additude he always carried around, and maybe its partly just because he reminds me of my old teammate, but the flamboyance and additude of richards style carries the same air and feels patronizing in the same way, even if its totally unintentional and hes not actually like my old teammate at all, which im almost sure he isnt.
Ayy Jay really we had to go there didn’t we. Can’t I just scroll through the comments without having to think of people “sword fighting” in the bathroom?
I liked the second last one the most. It was the most intense, they were mere feet apart, and the end of that exchange was awesome, straight from a movie. Hell, even Skallagrim agrees!
I still want an American martial arts school on bayonet fighting. There is Jukendo, but there's no finding something like that in my back-country town.
What do you mean "sport form" , this is pretty accurate you can see chippings fly away as they strike , the blades aren't sharp that's the only thing , do you imagine people sparred with sharp swords putting their lives on the line every time xD?
I've done fencing for 15 years. So I feel as if I "thought" I knew a bit about sword fighting. But I tried this at training this week and I swear 15 mins and I'm way past exhausted. The weapon weight, the hits are brutal and the energy it takes on the whole body is so intense. So much respect, great to watch
Man I really want to see more stuff like this. I think this is the only 1v1 I've found like this. It's so well done! Maybe we can get another one with longsword?
@@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218 The teacher isn't always right. He/she most likely to be right, but you gotta ask yourself a question. Do you truly believe that all 3.2 million teachers in the U.S alone, and even the millions in other countries are right about everything they say to their students?
Greatest artist who ever lived You can be a sheep and just automatically accept what a teacher says as Law, but I’m certainly not. Some Teachers are opinionated, remember people taught at a young age about thanksgiving, but never what occurred after? Remember that there’s some teachers saying global warming is a farce, and others not? So which one is right, I guess both then, since all teachers are right about everything, right?!?! Not to mention, college professors in states like California are mostly liberal, and preach socialism is the best economic systems and other ideas of that nature. When there’s no way of knowing that for sure... I agree, you should believe your teacher, but it doesn’t mean every teacher is right about everything they say. It’s okay to ask yourself questions or heaven forbid, do a little research...
I'm a pretty experienced fencer. Not specifically with sabers but with various other European weapons (I've been instructed, instructed and also helped prep a lot of ancient battle reenactments for various organizations) and I've responded to a couple of comments. I just thought I'd put my responses to two of the most common critiques I see in one place: "They are aiming for each other's swords, like children do when they play fight": Aiming for the blades to maneuver and create openings is beyond standard practice in virtually every form of armed melee combat. In just about any style of swordplay, if you aim for your opponents body first, you're going to create a dozen openings and lose very quickly. Being hit because you chose to bypass your opponents weapon is a pretty common mistake to amateurs AND to veteran fencers that get tired, impatient, or desperate. "This proves that real sword fights are always shorter than in the movies." That isn't necessarily true. This series of fights was fairly realistic but it's missing one key component. Their lives are not on the line and they have no risk of mutilation. That leaves them free to take risks and try things that they might not otherwise attempt. A sword fight between two trained fencers with actual risk of bodily harm could be over instantly, but it could just as likely go until one or both of the fencers are exhausted, which was often the case in fights involving heavier European weapons.
@@roonaldo86 Dull, no. Dullness comes more from environmental wear, using the blade to cut things like wood/rope/etc, and poor care of the blade over time. A dull blade has a more uniform wear along the edge. However, yes, it would develop a lot of flaws and "knicks" on the edge of the blade at specific points of impact. That's why, in reality, a combat ready blade needs regular care and would receive care after every use that involved more than few contacts. Idk about sabers specifically, but on blades less than a couple inches from one edge to the other (or something like a katana with less than a couple inches from blade to the backside of the blade) simple flaws can develop into "fatal flaws", which can be a deeper knick or a fine crack in the metal. That can lead to blades breaking and a very dead swordsman. You don't often see the amount of care that goes into a combat-ready sword in the movies, but there is a lot more to it than carrying it from fight to fight. And don't even get me started on sheathing a bloody blade. XD
@@Warrior_Culture You probably know better, I just figured that if you catch a swing with one of your own, the momentum would render the edge dull really fast. Especially since steel wasn't as good back than(compared to today's steel). I read somewhere that a longsword loses its sharpness oj the battlefield really fast due to the blood sticking to it. I imagine a saber has the same issue especially if you catch a swing with it and you're not able to use the point of it to pierce. But you seem to know your stuff, I would just use a spear and keep my distance xD
They’re reckless. That’s the problem with any form of recreation based on violence: paintball, airsoft, Karate, HEMA etc even UFC to a point. The paintballs/pellets won’t kill you, the referee will stop the fight from going to far, the swords are dull and the armor will stop them. For that same reason I don’t really like the Russian full armor/weapons sparring because it devolves into people just clubbing each other into submission. If they were actually trying to stab or decapitate or kill, no way would they let people get that close or be so reckless. At least with this they call it if they get hit and fight with technique. That’s about as close as you can get to the real thing.
@@Gillymonster18 You're right, but there's really no way around that without adding some sort of penalty to losing that would be detrimental to a person health. XD I suppose the closest you could legally get is to walk around challenging people to "mutual combat" in the states that still have that law.
I don’t think a lot of people realize how incredibly difficult this is, I did foil fencing for about 3 years and it’s much different from saber but the same general mechanics and that was the most technical and physically demanding sport I’ve ever done. Yet saber fencing is even more technical and physical so I feel like you need to experience fencing to truly appreciate these pros
It's not fencing, but yeah I can see where you are coming from. I'm doing fencing and HEMA and I can agree. Off targets for foil are so frustrating, but since its only the legs for saber, which is stupid to go for anyway, it's a while mile more realistic and difficult.
@@joemama-xm4xv No, but it is like saying you need to have gone through the studies and training to become a doctor to truly appreciate how difficult being a good doctor is.
It took years to finally go out and do it, but this video is of of the main reasons I wanted to get into HEMA, and a major reason behind my love for saber.
None of them are painted, except maybe for the black pilar - what you're seeing is a patched up wall (the white being plaster to fill up gaps/holes to even the wall in order to paint or to put wallpaper against). On the other hand, that's a quite a big cost to do for something that will not add anything; it's just a sparring room.
@@Ohno0es You kidding? Look at the ground by the outlets, it's literally rotting. This isn't a cost thing, this is a laziness thing. People would rather play with swords than maintain their school.
@@neoasura Who says it's their building, though? I mean, my archery club is almost worse than that; doesn't even have any heating; I bet there's heaps of water in the walls (it is a very old building) - but we just use it for training, and games but it isn't our building to do with and with the yearly money gotten from fellow archers, that hardly covers the rent, need some for new bows/repairs and arrows for starting kids etc.. let alone there's enough left to patch up someone else's building. Anyway, what I mean to tell is: don't be so quick to judge. After all, they are indeed there to play with swords, anything else is additional.
The wall is painted. All those white spots were filled in with joint compound. A white mud used to cover up seams, the tops of screws, holes, ect. All those white spots are holes, and scratches from sparring. There's no point in re-painting it. It will just get damaged again.
Or in today’s world you just get shot while never even seeing it coming. Or you do and can’t do a damn thing about it. I’d prefer swords, where life and death can depend more on skill. Of course, I’d die either way
@@arthurmorganlefaye7626 and they will still get away with cheating. It’s been happening in boxing and other sports for decades. Nobody cheats in sparring but when money and status is involved, you better bet that people will play dirty to win.
+Slevin Klevra Because a real sword fight would be 1. Difficult to follow in anything but slow motion. There's a reason Hollywood sword fights are replete with oversized swings and reaction shots. 2. Not terribly impressive. It would be a lot of shuffling and minor injuries if the combatants were closely matched. Would you really enjoy 7 minutes of two guys circling and shuffling, giving each other minor cuts until one makes a mistake and catches a sword to the External Carotid? Maybe. But joe public is gonna find it boring.
Audiodump Who decides what the public likes?! Bah! Most people in the theaters goes like "sigh" when there is a movie fight which tries too hard to be "cool". I say give em a taste of this believable sword fighting and let em decide! Lightning fast dash and retreat attacks, aikido throws rather than pushing swords when an opponent rushes the hero and huge amounts of minor cuts in the final fight until both fighters are on the verge of bleeding out but the most enduring triumphs with a quick but effective attack in the end! Now that's the kind of shizzle I'd like to see!
Yoriko Arran Google "Best sword fights in movies" and you'll see the kind of thing the public likes. It's like the whole "Katana" myth. It persists because people like it. People like dramatic sword fights more than they like realism.
I got mad respect for people who are masteres are using such an old art. Lot harder and a lot more thought into sword fights than anything I could think of
Josh JeanJacket Jaeger Imagine if it was just a clean swipe through.... their brains could not react so fast as to feel anything! It’s even weirder considering it’s believed that human heads can live for about 4 seconds after being deattached from the body.... imagine your conscious head rolling on the ground after being decapitated :/
@@Rtmmms It isn't easy to decapitate someone. Some executioners (wielding axes) even fail to do it in one hit and have to hit several times even though the conditions are more optimal than in a duel
took up fencing last fall, honestly swords fighting is absolutely fun and there is plenty of time to jest and toy with each other while the duel is on.
"Its harder than it looks people" "It *looks* pretty hard actually* this exchange had me chuckle. I used to be an Epee(ep-A) trainee before my teacher stopped giving out lessons, and I can confirm, that fencing in general is hard to do, and yet it just simply looks like a few armgestures and a strange stance, but it is so much more than that.
as a drummer, i can wholeheartedly agree that flailing around with sticks or anything else really can be done in a masterful manner but still looks like nothing much to the untrained eye (or ear)
This is incredible. People really did fight like this. Hard to imagine a boat full of pirates slowly gaining on your ship , And when they catch your ship, Everyone must fight to the death. That's scary .
@@justakidwithnolife5671 Hard to say for sure, modern era has better training methods, better diets etc, generally most sports improve over time because of factors like this, but it was for sure taken much more seriously back then. I'd still guess these guys would be better than the vast majority back in the day, maybe not the best.
Just a kid With no life to the previous comment yes modern day may have succeeded in having the best training methods, but I’m still sure swordsmen back in the day would still be the more skilled since it was the main form of combat and they have actual experience fighting in battle that involved to the death which modern day swordsmen don’t have
@@justakidwithnolife5671 May be a bit late however, Most of the techniques HEMA instructors use are recreational from manuscripts they read, written from people long ago. second and a bit off topic but still worth considering. In the earlier era people trained with the sword when they where old enough to pick up a stick, so just considering by the time they are 18 or what not they most likely have 5+ years of training. third is exposure. kids are really quick to learn basics from weapons by just seeing it in action, Kind of how a 13 year old know how to cock a pistol and squeeze the trigger even if he had never actually hold one before and visa versa with swords. forth and most importantly, this is just MY OPINION on the SUBJECT!
I can see the majority of the dislikes are likely from angry sport saber fencers/ fans of sport fencing saying these two instructors couldn't beat any real fencers and Sabre looks nothing like this and they're too slow... okay guys, hear me out because I used to do Sport Fencing for a year so I feel like I can tell where you're coming from.. Sport Fencing whether it be Sabre/Epee or Foil is an amazing sport that takes talent, skill dedication to get to higher levels of competition and the participants of the highest competitions truly are skilled at what they are doing. There is absolutely no denying that! But all 3 kinds of fencing are an abstracted sport and the people who try to elevate sport fencing above HEMA in terms of being closer to real sword fighting is ridiculous. People don't fight with swords anymore and due to that the knowledge has been lost in a sea of misconceptions with it's only surviving modern decesendant currently becoming more abstracted and adapting to sport with things like pistol grips, right of way rules and target zones. Modern day fencing is so far abstracted and you can't claim to be an evolution of something if you aren't able to use your techniques with a real sword. All that knowledge is left in old manuscripts and or an highly diluted form. Your average modern day Olympic Sabre fencers if they were dropped into an area an expected to use a real sabre would likely die quickly, because while they have the twitch relaxes and fast footwork, they likely wouldn't be able to cut effectively with the sabre, because 95% of modern sabre fencers don't train in cutting with real sabres...alot harder said than done, and techniques that work with a very flexible, very light training blade like flick cuts and the like wouldn't work with a real, stiff 2 pound heavy metal Sabre. And that's not even getting into being naturally trained to charge in without worrying about your opponent's follow up attacks and the target zones of their sport limiting their scope of possible attacks and defenses. Typical HEMA isn't a perfect replication by any means, especially tournaments, but someone training in British Military Sabre who learns how to fight with an accurately weighted weapon, how to cut with a Sabre, how to defend yourself and avoid afterblows with that Sabre under a rule set where your whole body is a target area and grappling is allowed would stand a much better chance of living through a real sword fight. Now don't get me wrong, if you took an Olympic Saberist, trained him in British Military Sabre for year, taught him how to cut and handle a real sabre and taught him how to properly apply his reflexes and skills in a more realistic scenario I have no doubt that he would be one of the best people in all of HEMA...but as it stands, Sport Fencing is an abstracted sport far removed from real sword fighting like Kendo is from Kenjutsu..the majority of Olympic fencers know this, keyboard warriors don't. For those who know that, fine, for those who think they can speak like some expert on the topic of sword fighting because took a little sport fencing or know about sport fencing...are fooling themselves.
Kendo's a sport - think the Japanese equivalent of fencing. However, also like fencing, it is super athletic, much better represented in the competitive scene than HEMA, and is a great thing to start with if you want to get into HEMA/kenjutsu later. So don't let its not being a martial art stop you if you were thinking of taking it up. I used to practice kendo (before HEMA) and it's great fun.
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Conor McGregor if you used kendo irl you would die very fast and you can see that in how fast kendo matches are lol
bugzilla2001 I wish we had a school like this in my country : X Even though I have nearby a second generation Norwegian Medieval sword school, I think that's the proper name.
+bugzilla2001 Yeah, I have a WHFA in my state (Wisconsin Historical Fencing Association). It's too far away for me to go to like 2 hours away. Says it teaches armed and unarmed fighting and it has the HEMA Alliance logo on it's site. So it might teach more then just fencing.
It's so elegant, fluent and fast paced. I don't get why people prefer movie stuff over realistic sword action, yes they're sabres not just regular swords but you know what I mean.
Not Now I don't get why people can't just like both. I like a flashy action sequence in movies. I also like the elegance and artistic flow of saber dueling.
There is also the fact that most real sword fights only last two or three hits, then the battle is practically over. In movies, sword fights are made to extend for abnormally long periods of time in order to keep the audience entertained.
At the same time tho it still lacks a degree of authenticity, knowing that they won't/can't suffer any real debilitating or life threatening injuries completely changes how they fight here vs how a fight would actually look. Not talking trash, these guys love what they do and are very dedicated and it's cool to watch. I just don't think people should be acting like this is exactly how an authentic sword fighting would look.
Saber fights are always portrayed like this in TV shows; Black Sails, War and Peace. Most shows use normal swords and not sabers, like you said, and obviously the fighting style is different, what's the issue?
@@loneliestshrimp1181 Not true. Basically every sword was meant to cut. They could break bones in the process but that was not their main function. Maces and warhammers were weapons meant to break bones.
Out of all the stuff I see HEMA guys do in videos, this is the thing I wanna try the most. I've done foam boffer combat (Belegarth) and I've done Olympic-style Epee fencing, now I wanna try this.
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My dude literally hit him with the "Well, what are you waiting for" in real combat, and got a hit for it. Absolute legend
Yeah it was almost like he suddenly made a jojo pose
@@patuccaneven8027 hmmmmm jojo reference I see
Dark Souls and JoJo references in one thread. I am pleased.
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Contrary to popular belief, I ACTUALLY did search for this and am quite satisfied.
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@@linguisticliv yea same
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This is just fantastic sportsmanship. They encourage each other and call out any fair hits.
I'd be no fun otherwise. That's why i dont get why people enjoy being toxic.
@@thewind652 theoretical, hear me out, in a real situation, and you ha e a sword along with the other person, there’s really no fair hits. You kinda just get cut or cut. Unless you’re talking about toxic sportsmanship in sparring and swordplay. Then the only reason people are toxic Is cause people are fricking stupid
@@schrodinger1122 my own stupidity amazes me. I didnt understand the first half of your reply(i think you mean fighting with actual sword with the intent of murdering each other, in which case if its a joke then touche, you actually made my chuckle thinking of that possibility.) but the second half, i totally agree with you.
@@thewind652 wow. That’s the nicest TH-cam reply I’ve ever gotten. Thank you
@@schrodinger1122 Your welcome. Unless you're being an A-hole youself, i see no reason to be toxic in a youtube comment section, be respectful to me and i'll be respectful to you. But i understand that there are alot of toxic people and trolls on youtube and the internet in general. Just ignore them, and let them be clowns.
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It's true warrior spirit! Anime told me only this attitude opponent is wortly to kill!
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Kicked, head butted, punched on the nose with the hand guard then stabbed through the solar plexus ... aw dude awesome
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Starting to realize how quickly a real sword fight would end.
Yeah, imagine back in the day how it was for these foot soldiers fighting in all these conquests and battles. One wrong move, get unlucky once and you're a goner. I'm glad I wasn't born back then.
No actually . Its would not end up in this fast . Because usually people put on armor to their arm, torso and head . So cuts like those in the video would not kill . Especially if its a steel plate armor . Average conquest usually last minimum of 3 hours . Depending on the equipment and skill mostly
@@muhammadamirun3777 Sounds to me like you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about, have you ever been cut by a sword? No. So shut the fuck up.
@@muhammadamirun3777 well not really, and it depends upon the place and time period of the world. if you're talking the middle ages, only nobles and land owners would have been knights while the peasants that would have been mass recruited for the war (take for example the english in the hundreds year war) would be wearing none to little armor. most of the time people in armor would die because their horses died, and they couldn't get up. it was not fast.
@@funkygamer2251 i actually have been cut by sharp blade . While wearing leather armor . And suprisingly, my hand is still healthy and well up to this day . Unlike your judgemental brain of yours . Seems damaged by stupidity
Being a martial artist and always rolling my eyes when someone says "You can disarm a knife from an attacker", this footage proves you need to be Matrix level reflexes from defending yourself from a sword, mind you it's bigger than a knife, heavier to boot and expert practitioners narrowly avoid the barely predictable slashes. Now try doing that with something smaller, easier to hide, faster to deploy and attack with, yeah there's no way a person can disarm a knife attack. It great seeing each practitioner calling out a proper blow. Allows both parties to learn and grow.
The best defense against a knife is not being within knife distance. Fiore has a *FEW* grabs against dagger but even they're known as a sorry-chance of working, plus, Fiore is all about joint locks and breaks. If you grab their arm you might as well break it...if you've not died of blood loss from the 4 stabs your enemy has already landed.
Sword seems like a strange comparison though. I'd much prefer my chances against a knife than a sword. A sword moves way faster than any knife. A tiny flick of the wrist can make the sword tip move extremely quickly and unpredictably. And all the while, the swordman is at a distance out of your reach.
A knife moves at the speed of the hand and has shorter range. Now to be sure, I understand perfectly that my chances against a knife are next to nill as well, but there's the ever so slim chance you might get a chance to grap the knife attacker's hand and get into some kind of grappling, especially if he's just some guy that just picked up a knife and doesn't know what he's doing. And there have been rare cases of people surviving knife attacks like that.
The thing is, you can stop a knife, right? It's basically the same as catching a punch. But if you knew someone was going to punch you would you REALLY risk getting hit on your ability to grab their fist out of the air or something? PROBABLY NOT. It's doable, but it's just so hard that you'd never actually want to do it unless it's an absolute last resort.
The best defense against any knife attack will always be to just run the fuck away and hope you run into someone that can help you deal with the madman chasing you with a fucking knife!
how to win a knife fight: don't get into a knife fight lol
@@skengels You should always bring a shotgun to a knife fight
As a boxer I hear a lot of people say it looks easy, even I myself thought so before my first fight, but people fail to take into account that When you are experienced u can literally see untrained punch from half a mile away. So yeah basically I think a sabre which can be swung twice as fast as a fist with just a flick of the wrist is a totally different degree of skill. Kudos to y’all for the great sportsmanship too.
Edit: thanks for the likes, I wasn’t expecting so much attention! 🤣😊😂
That's a really cool thing to hear
Damn that's cool
Pfttt boxing
@@tysonmma1518 what's funny?
@@JalimRabeikkkkk your comment, when did I indicate I was laughing? 🤔
People say that real sparring wouldn't be cinematic enough or "cool looking" but every time i watch this video i remember why i STRONGLY disagree.. The speed, the concentration, the harmony... Just wow. Very intense.
Well this is THE cinematic sparring, its saber dueling. Most sword fights dont look like this.
Not very agreed , but I understand
It’s not intense imo, but it is cool as fuck. Would look nice if done properly in a show.
Its finesse instead of just stupid aggression. I prefer it to hollywood. More real.
@@deltalima6703 how is finesse more real than aggression
Oh TH-cam recommended. You never fail to send me to weird, but wonderful places
Didnt expect to see you here
Same imao
Woah youre here?
Huh. Small website.
Wasn't expecting to see you here. And agreed.
were literally watching some of the best sword fencers in the world. The fact that they are literally trying to strike each other, but they make it look like its a choreographed movie fight: Absolutely legendary
They are?
@@kepspark3362 if you unga bunga smash them, you will probably hit them "fatally", but also you will definitely get hit "fatally". hence, the old adage of master swordsmen being more scared of untrained people (who move more unpredictably and with less self-preservation) than their fellow trained swordsmen
self preservation is emphasised over landing hits, they need to get an opening before committing to a strike
@@TheOneWhoHasABadName I meant are they 1 of the best? I don't know them.
But thanks for the info! 😊
@@TheOneWhoHasABadNameOf course spears dealt with those dumbass chargers pretty quickly. Can't rush if you got killed while being 6 feet away.
@@myusername3689 to be fair to those guys, spears can also defeat master swordsmen more easily, especially in teamfights
spears, polearms, and just having range in general is pretty OP
As an amateur boxer, this looks insanely difficult with timing, distance, counter attack, defense etc. Mesmerizing to watch
69 likes, make a wish!
@@GodittoC a man of culture lol
For real. The movement of the sword looks a bit random for the untrained eye.
I guess with practice you get used to it, but also boxing has a lot of depth into it different from this
Its alot easier actually for me atleast i have watched enough anime so i can fight with a sword
@@justaguywithtombrandospict1330 shut the fuck up lmao, anime doesn’t teach you shit
This is how we saw it in our heads when we were kids, sword fighting.
...I see you on rdcworld civilaines rustage nlj I see you facking everywhere
Gintoki chan
Well hello there
Holy shit 34th time ive seen you these past 7 months
stop appearing
1:12 Ah, so this is what it looks like to die.
Nice
well said
Very true actually
That’s how fast it would happen... Kinda crazy to think about. 🤣
Lmao I laughed reading this
I always come back to this video. It’s like a dance between two perfect partners. The sportsmanship, the technique, the visible joy and yet holding nothing back in your swift actions. It’s as if you were made for this, like your blades are no more than extensions of yourself. Bravo
Man, you read my mind!
I never thought the words 'wholesome' and 'swordfight' could be used in the same sentence
Wholesome swordfight indeed
fucking redditor
@@gregtronica3569 you're cringe indeed
@@gregtronica3569 Wholesome is from reddit? Ok
@@gregtronica3569 what?
Why must bee keepers fight
Kids 2005 underrated comment.
here have a like, best comment so far.
Lmao
THERE CAN BEE ONLY ONE!
W0t how does this look like beekeepers fighting
A real duel with those swords must be really frightening.
Back in the days it was a main weapon in Poland. Every nobleman and soldier had it. And they were in love with duels about anything.
Especially when most of the time you will see swords this close 1:11
I don't think you got much to worry about Chris. You destroyed a boulder with the power of muscles.
@@Lethargy514 Not to mention that the dude has guns and rocket launchers as well.
@@johnlime1469 and vehicles.
This is super cool! It's something I'd love to learn.
11 likes, impressive.
Thanks
@@gameknight623 try doing fencing choose saber as ur weapon
@@themonsterunderurbed2005 I meant I don't live remotely near any place that offers fencing or sparring classes.
@@gameknight623 ah that's kinda unfortunate
It's all fun and games until they start using the Force.
kosmas chrisos
Lol
*duel of the fates intensifies*
kosmas chrisos I Can Only see death troopers or purge troopers trying to sword fight 🤣
th-cam.com/video/vjAFOEAbzdU/w-d-xo.html
*Vader breathing intensifies*
3:33 Ok but that was actually really cool
It's called half-swording.
That was stylish af
Future movies with saber duels should write this down
of course it was
I can't imagine that you can half sword with a sabre, it is bent
Imagine trying to rob someone and they pull out a whole ass sword.
The ass sword is the apex of fighting styles
Alexa, Order me an "Ass-Sword"
Dokebi what are you doing here? Get back on those cams.
@@WearyFeline I haven’t hacked cams yet
@@smoothism693 ah
I've gone down a sword fighting rabbit hole and I'm loving it. This is so dang cool!
Despite all the comedians in the comments, I’d just like to take this moment to just express how damn cool this is.
Halberd. I play the more commonly know stole of fencing (epee) and I hate to admit that this seems a LOT harder and more fun too
why does everybody trying so hard to become a meme nowadays? this video was epic.
@Joshua Ayala no u
@Joshua Ayala bet you think fist fights are cool
I know, I love watching people, especially good and evenly matched opponents, sword fight.
POV: It is 2057 and the last beekeepers fight for the last surviving hive.
Nice
Haha, took me a while but gold.
a connoisseur of century-chan work... what a person of culture
I would watch that movie. A kind of Highlander drama hybrid.
The Last Beekepers: There Can Be Only One.
@@discoduck3785 there can only BEE one
Meanwhile everyone I know: “Nuh uh, I didn’t get hit!”
Those that are true to the Art recognize their shortcomings and the abilities of their opponent .That is the road to mastery .
Me: Sword through his body
My friend: I dodged that hahaha
@@siam-xq8ln Well duh! He just split the cells of his body to avoid getting cut - any master can do that!
@@siam-xq8ln "Tis but a scratch"
Same in my school lol
This has got to be my favorite video ever. I use it constantly as an example of what a real sword fight looks like
Depends on the type of gear and the fighters ofcourse, but this would be what experienced low armored saber fighting would look like. Although the dont use.their off hand, while in real life people would tend to have at least a buckler on their off hand
@@ri3121 I would legitimately love to see an example of what you find to be a better example if you have a link. Please and thank you
@@CytheSwordSwallower the channel “blood and iron HEMA” is the channel for the club that the guys in the video (maybe used to) run, it’s got a good amount of sparring footage with a lot of variety, their top video, the 2v1 is good
not even 10 seconds in and he uses the "well what is it" emote
Oh shit you're right
And after the match the winner says GIT GUD
Holy shit! Ahaha!!
Why I am not surprised to find another fellow Chosen Undead here...
I don't even know the game that references and its still hilarious
I love how they get excited for eachother when the other one gets a hit
Sportsmanship is great to watch.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
No 667 likes lmao
Imagine going at it for real, sharp blades - clothing that probly did dick for protection and the cost of losing was death, blindness, and being disabled for the rest of your life....oh humanity, what will you do next?
@@charlesku4308 no
Without TH-cam recommendations, I definitely wouldn't be where I am today.
True
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing
Ah yes I would have been studying now if not for TH-cam recommendations...
@@masterdementer im literally watching this while having online class
@@jandavesalamat2663 wow your pfp is a bootleg version of mine.
Was researching actual sword sparring matches to get an understanding of how they will actually look, it's super helpful to see from both a POV perspective and a third person perspective.
00:07 Dark souls PVP is like.
*POINT DOWN INTENSIFIES*
@@bobspizzeria1276 i was going to say that!!!!
Lol true xd
was he praising the sun. no he wasnt
Polish Magnats fight like that :P:
0:07 When you accidentally pressed the emote button
Oh god now I can't see that any other way
Me in Smash Bros
Show me a good time, Jack!
Made me laugh so hard
😂 Underrated comment
"Hello, my name is Iñigo Montoya. You killed my father, prepare to die!"
This needs to be the top comment.
True. ^
I am your *father*
"Hello, my name is Darth Vader. I am you're father!"
@@fencoir245"...I am *you're* father!"
me: "Nani?!" *TRIGGERED*
arguably the best sword video on youtube. still phenomenal in 2023.
I have been a long time epee fencer, and have known Olympic saber medalists. I have watched my share of modern saber fencing. This is entirely different and I believe much, much closer to the reality. What is amazing to me is how much "cleaner" this sport is. Mostly single scores, instead of both landing but the point awarded on the basis of artificial rules. Well done! I truly enjoyed watching this.
Yeah I never had much respect for olympic fencing, it requires skill but its not really fencing, it's its own thing
Its something you find about sports, they dont truly reflect the historical combat. This and Lars anders works really show how the sports are different from what was actually done in combat.
Although I disagree with the rules and the values being taught in FIE, I respect the athleticism of FIE practitioners. I mean these guys can move
@@prismaticc_abyss i promise you could take an Olympic fencer and place them in this and they would do well. the opposite can't be said
@@shrimp562 your promise is worth nothing. An olympic fencer would do better than someone with no experience initially and become really good at it with practice. The same applies if you swapped the roles of the olympic and hema Fencer. None of the arts are technically superior on, they are both specialized for different things.
I don’t know why but I only just realized how scary it would be to fight off someone with an actual sword and no armor.
Runnings not an option?
Yes i was thinking about the same thing. Imagine you are a young pirate and some other pirate invades your ship then you have to fight with sword. Thats scary
Fighting someone with fists is actually quite scary already
"Your friend is dead and Merry Trant is not because he had an armor and a big fucking sword".
Hound, The.
@@IS-su2jf
fists cant make you bleed to death in one or two hits swords can cause MAJORLY lethal blood loss with almost no effort
i watched this vid a few years back and it is still very fun to rewatch!
"they've got curved sword, curved sword"
"The Gods gave you two hands, and you use them both for your weapon. I respect that"
"Take care with those flames"
“Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll.”
"Have you been to the cloud district very often , oh what am I saying of course you don't"
"I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee."
I love how aggressive they got around the end and started attacking more while still defending.
@Hans Mustermann English please? "They not use" "Have a armor" "That fight not look". If your going to say something please use correct grammar lmao
@@ashuyl Who said english is his mother language? You r 2 steps behind him. Na próxima vez que quiser bancar o professor de inglês, tente aprende a lingua dele
Hans Mustermann Ihr Deutsch scheint aber auch nicht gerade fehlerfrei zu sein. Aber was soll‘s, jeder macht mal Fehler, besonders wenn man wütend ist.
Bezüglich ihrer Kritik an der Kampftechnik, polnische Säbel sind für den Kampf ohne Rüstung ausgelegt, und insbesondere die Schnitte aus dem Handgelenk können auf ungerüsteten Körperteilen schnell und unerwartet schwere Verletzungen verursachen.
@Hans Mustermann idk mate i think the power is from the sword elasticity
@Hans Mustermann They always aim for the vital organ like head, Wrist, and neck. 0:26 and in this shot we can see the elasticity do the work
Now imagine this with real swords and no armor.
*guy slices off opponent’s arm*
“This is harder than it looks people”
Tis but a scratch!
@@HassanSafdar97 just a flesh wound
@@hiran4935 BUT YOUR ARM'S OFF!
@Cider Ans You're a looney.
Pretty sure those are real swords.
Richard has such a flamboyant style. Love it. Look like straight out of movie, but actually practical
He's wearing a skull, just one so it's not gothic/emo style, and he's playing the crazy funny flamboyant Character ... he's definetly looking up to Jack Sparrow.
Very big swashbuckler vibes, I agree
Kind of corny, and the flair is a bit predictable especially on the counterattacks, could lead to getting hit and dying pretty quick in a real fight. There was a fairly notable difference in skill between the two fighters though, and thats why it seemed to work out fine so many times.
@@Alex-kc7tp you could say that about almost all showy styles in any combat or sport. Roy Jones with his hands down could take the same critic
@@ShadowQrow i mean even if he isnt in a fight to the death it would still cost him points against a better opponent, and i personally think its disrespectful to treat any duel any differently from a fight to the death even if it is a facilitated event and stuff. If youre engaging someone in combat, either physically or mentally, regardless of the consequences of losing, both competitors should give their absolute best and try their absolute hardest to win, out of respect and appreciation for the struggle it took for each competitor to reach the level of skill each has achieved, and for having the guts to "step in the ring" with eachother, so to speak, and have a contest of ability against eachother. It just seems a little annoying to have someone not take me seriously like that if i were to face them, especially if i was losing to them. It could almost come off as patronizing. There was a kid like that on my fencing team in high school who did that stuff and i remember having such a big ego and being a total asshole in general, win or lose. After a win he would turn away after shaking hands with his opponent and start bragging to me and the rest of the team and berating the other fencers skills, and if he lost hed bitch and moan and complain and make up excuses. It felt like his flamboyant style was a perfect manifestation of that flashy, egotistical additude he always carried around, and maybe its partly just because he reminds me of my old teammate, but the flamboyance and additude of richards style carries the same air and feels patronizing in the same way, even if its totally unintentional and hes not actually like my old teammate at all, which im almost sure he isnt.
"it's harder than it looks"
"It looks hard"
"It's even harder"
...
That's what she said
Nice dude
Holy shit I pissed my pants dude 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have you ever considered a career in stand up comedy?
0:56 ;)
He*
thats what she said
2:10 When you thought you defeated the boss, but the music changes.
"it's not over yet kid"
When you forget about the second phase
Now playing : sparring partner phase 2 theme
abyss watchers in nutshell
Sister friede of Dark Souls 3 with his 3 forms
Damn! Now these men are professional and it’s easy to see how difficult this would’ve been so very long ago. LOVED IT!!!!
Teacher: why didn’t you go bathroom during lunch?
The bathroom during lunch:
Dude if this actually happened during lunch, i'd be watching 24/7
Bathroom is people busting in the door
I think he means anathor kind of sword fighting
@@ayyjay8028 oh no
Ayy Jay really we had to go there didn’t we. Can’t I just scroll through the comments without having to think of people “sword fighting” in the bathroom?
TH-cam video with no clickbait title and thumbnail. Also no 1 minute intro where a guy screams at a camera? What is this? 2006?
This is quality content, a rare thing to find these days
Dániel Kalocsai oh wowed sure did love 2006 and all those unregistered hypercams and this is Sparta memes
Glad you liked it!
Richard Marsden, wow, since your reply is so fresh, I just want to say I love the sparring videos featuring you, keep it up fam.
Good comment. I have now liked, subscribed, followed you on twitter and am donating to your patreon.
That last move was awesome. Locked the blade, grabbed the hand and landed a killing blow. Looked like something I'd expect to see in a textbook.
There's a similar block and counter technique in escrima.
I liked the second last one the most. It was the most intense, they were mere feet apart, and the end of that exchange was awesome, straight from a movie. Hell, even Skallagrim agrees!
1:13 **Kills him**
*"Nice!"*
I'm glad swordsmanship is still alive today even if it is in sport form
Battlecruiser Plays Me too
@WaffleDragon you wish for a trial by combat?
I'm glad Marsden is my world history teacher
I still want an American martial arts school on bayonet fighting. There is Jukendo, but there's no finding something like that in my back-country town.
What do you mean "sport form" , this is pretty accurate you can see chippings fly away as they strike , the blades aren't sharp that's the only thing , do you imagine people sparred with sharp swords putting their lives on the line every time xD?
I've done fencing for 15 years. So I feel as if I "thought" I knew a bit about sword fighting. But I tried this at training this week and I swear 15 mins and I'm way past exhausted.
The weapon weight, the hits are brutal and the energy it takes on the whole body is so intense. So much respect, great to watch
I know right...
The two green background K's have agreed, the world is saved
Also you done fencing for 15 years? Thats impressive
@Ethan Wilde nah dude i think brit longsword weight more than that, 3 kg is way too light
thats why i bought two crossbows and shitloads of bolts strings and luuuuuube
What is the difference between fencing and sword fighting
0:18 this guy just did the "well, what is it?" gesture in dark souls
He was not using the B A S S C A N N O N tho
*Giantdad intensifies*
I just got that gesture last night playing ds1 remastered and I see this comment the next day lol
but where is the *B A S S C A N N O N* ?
But he is using scimitar.
Man I really want to see more stuff like this. I think this is the only 1v1 I've found like this. It's so well done! Maybe we can get another one with longsword?
*That's got to be the best pirate I've ever seen*
So it would seem
Da, da, dadada-dada
CAPTAIN Spack Jarrow
*MUSIC PLAYS*
I would have drawn my flintlock pistol and end the match at the beginning
When the teacher and smart kid disagree on an answer.
underrated
liberalbaby the teacher is always right because
1. The teacher has done school before
2. If they disagree they are detentioned to oblivion.
@@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218 The teacher isn't always right. He/she most likely to be right, but you gotta ask yourself a question. Do you truly believe that all 3.2 million teachers in the U.S alone, and even the millions in other countries are right about everything they say to their students?
Greatest artist who ever lived You can be a sheep and just automatically accept what a teacher says as Law, but I’m certainly not. Some Teachers are opinionated, remember people taught at a young age about thanksgiving, but never what occurred after? Remember that there’s some teachers saying global warming is a farce, and others not? So which one is right, I guess both then, since all teachers are right about everything, right?!?! Not to mention, college professors in states like California are mostly liberal, and preach socialism is the best economic systems and other ideas of that nature. When there’s no way of knowing that for sure...
I agree, you should believe your teacher, but it doesn’t mean every teacher is right about everything they say. It’s okay to ask yourself questions or heaven forbid, do a little research...
It's all comedy and jokes until the people who can't take a joke start an argument
I'm a pretty experienced fencer. Not specifically with sabers but with various other European weapons (I've been instructed, instructed and also helped prep a lot of ancient battle reenactments for various organizations) and I've responded to a couple of comments. I just thought I'd put my responses to two of the most common critiques I see in one place:
"They are aiming for each other's swords, like children do when they play fight":
Aiming for the blades to maneuver and create openings is beyond standard practice in virtually every form of armed melee combat. In just about any style of swordplay, if you aim for your opponents body first, you're going to create a dozen openings and lose very quickly. Being hit because you chose to bypass your opponents weapon is a pretty common mistake to amateurs AND to veteran fencers that get tired, impatient, or desperate.
"This proves that real sword fights are always shorter than in the movies."
That isn't necessarily true. This series of fights was fairly realistic but it's missing one key component. Their lives are not on the line and they have no risk of mutilation. That leaves them free to take risks and try things that they might not otherwise attempt. A sword fight between two trained fencers with actual risk of bodily harm could be over instantly, but it could just as likely go until one or both of the fencers are exhausted, which was often the case in fights involving heavier European weapons.
Not an expert here so I could be wrong, but wouldnt the edge of the blade become dul,l like really fast ?
@@roonaldo86 Dull, no. Dullness comes more from environmental wear, using the blade to cut things like wood/rope/etc, and poor care of the blade over time. A dull blade has a more uniform wear along the edge.
However, yes, it would develop a lot of flaws and "knicks" on the edge of the blade at specific points of impact. That's why, in reality, a combat ready blade needs regular care and would receive care after every use that involved more than few contacts.
Idk about sabers specifically, but on blades less than a couple inches from one edge to the other (or something like a katana with less than a couple inches from blade to the backside of the blade) simple flaws can develop into "fatal flaws", which can be a deeper knick or a fine crack in the metal. That can lead to blades breaking and a very dead swordsman.
You don't often see the amount of care that goes into a combat-ready sword in the movies, but there is a lot more to it than carrying it from fight to fight. And don't even get me started on sheathing a bloody blade. XD
@@Warrior_Culture You probably know better, I just figured that if you catch a swing with one of your own, the momentum would render the edge dull really fast. Especially since steel wasn't as good back than(compared to today's steel). I read somewhere that a longsword loses its sharpness oj the battlefield really fast due to the blood sticking to it. I imagine a saber has the same issue especially if you catch a swing with it and you're not able to use the point of it to pierce. But you seem to know your stuff, I would just use a spear and keep my distance xD
They’re reckless. That’s the problem with any form of recreation based on violence: paintball, airsoft, Karate, HEMA etc even UFC to a point. The paintballs/pellets won’t kill you, the referee will stop the fight from going to far, the swords are dull and the armor will stop them. For that same reason I don’t really like the Russian full armor/weapons sparring because it devolves into people just clubbing each other into submission. If they were actually trying to stab or decapitate or kill, no way would they let people get that close or be so reckless. At least with this they call it if they get hit and fight with technique. That’s about as close as you can get to the real thing.
@@Gillymonster18 You're right, but there's really no way around that without adding some sort of penalty to losing that would be detrimental to a person health. XD I suppose the closest you could legally get is to walk around challenging people to "mutual combat" in the states that still have that law.
This is the best sparring I've ever seen. So many efficient movements even down to the nonchalant poses.
I don’t think a lot of people realize how incredibly difficult this is, I did foil fencing for about 3 years and it’s much different from saber but the same general mechanics and that was the most technical and physically demanding sport I’ve ever done. Yet saber fencing is even more technical and physical so I feel like you need to experience fencing to truly appreciate these pros
It's not fencing, but yeah I can see where you are coming from. I'm doing fencing and HEMA and I can agree. Off targets for foil are so frustrating, but since its only the legs for saber, which is stupid to go for anyway, it's a while mile more realistic and difficult.
That's like saying you need to be a doctor to get medical treatment.
@@joemama-xm4xv i don't get the thing what are you refering to?
@@joemama-xm4xv No, but it is like saying you need to have gone through the studies and training to become a doctor to truly appreciate how difficult being a good doctor is.
@@beki7408 to truly "appreciate" these pros
2017 = disstracks
2018 = boxing
2019 = sword fights
What's a 'disstracks'?
@@FriginHavoc exactly
@Asspargass S it's when two girls make a song about their rival. You know how women are.
Can't wait for the pewdiepie vs the entierety of India in a sword fight
One can hope...
0:08
Press *E* to taunt.
It took years to finally go out and do it, but this video is of of the main reasons I wanted to get into HEMA, and a major reason behind my love for saber.
0:07 I didn't know this character had a taunt
Straight up jojo pose
@@jellewoort4315 how
More of a jetstream Sam pose
Honestly yeah, I love that pose
@@flooplesmooples Show me a good time, Jack!
*Person in the Back:* "How will this help us in real life?"
*All the Guys slowly turn towards them*
"Get out!"
Wow this is the least liked comment from this person that I have ever seen. Might be too early
Why are you here?!?!
hello there
@@theselloutofficial General Kenobi!
oof
My only question is:
Why didn’t they finish painting the wall
None of them are painted, except maybe for the black pilar - what you're seeing is a patched up wall (the white being plaster to fill up gaps/holes to even the wall in order to paint or to put wallpaper against). On the other hand, that's a quite a big cost to do for something that will not add anything; it's just a sparring room.
@@Ohno0es You kidding? Look at the ground by the outlets, it's literally rotting. This isn't a cost thing, this is a laziness thing. People would rather play with swords than maintain their school.
@@neoasura Who says it's their building, though? I mean, my archery club is almost worse than that; doesn't even have any heating; I bet there's heaps of water in the walls (it is a very old building) - but we just use it for training, and games but it isn't our building to do with and with the yearly money gotten from fellow archers, that hardly covers the rent, need some for new bows/repairs and arrows for starting kids etc.. let alone there's enough left to patch up someone else's building.
Anyway, what I mean to tell is: don't be so quick to judge. After all, they are indeed there to play with swords, anything else is additional.
It will eventually be spattered with blood so what's the point?
The wall is painted. All those white spots were filled in with joint compound. A white mud used to cover up seams, the tops of screws, holes, ect. All those white spots are holes, and scratches from sparring. There's no point in re-painting it. It will just get damaged again.
Hard to believe this isn't choreographed, this looks incredible!
Jesus Christ, Imagine fighting with these back then. A simple maneuver could catch you by surprise and then boom, dead
It's scary man
It's even worse now with guns. You could be dead and not even realize it.
Pork Cutlet maybe. but sword fighting is more badass than a gun duel
@@porkcutlet3920 Generally people don't notice when they're dead.
Erick Galaz Tell that to John Wick
Or in today’s world you just get shot while never even seeing it coming. Or you do and can’t do a damn thing about it.
I’d prefer swords, where life and death can depend more on skill. Of course, I’d die either way
*Everybody gangsta till’ one if them starts total concentration breathing*
Døppio
MUZAN: *aw shit, it’s those bee keepers again*
I see you are a weeb my brother
First form: Honey collecting
Lol jjba
@@reatisuto9919 mah dude thats a KNY reference
0:08
Enemy uses taunt...
It was super effective.
Yegor Larychev stop playing assassins creed lmfao
@@Pinacoladadada ass ass ins
Well that's a Pokemon reference
Too effective
ОтСоСиН КрЕаДд
Great show, exciting camera angles. Thank you for your work.
I love the sportsmanship here, calling out when you get hit.
Point of sparring matches is to learn. If they were fighting in a tournament guarantee fighters will be less honorable
Yup, it works the same way in Airsoft
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 if they were in a tournament, there's be cameras everywhere and a ref
@@arthurmorganlefaye7626 and they will still get away with cheating. It’s been happening in boxing and other sports for decades. Nobody cheats in sparring but when money and status is involved, you better bet that people will play dirty to win.
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 yeah but they have suits that tag a buzzer like in fencing. Literally can't cheat.
Oh, he hit the man with the 'Welcome' gesture!
invalid gesture not enough poise
That the gesture call "Well, What is it?" XD
And thus, we have found Giantdad IRL
@Mr Teepawt
Soul Calibur reference?
Big Boy Bazoozo POWER UP THE BASS CANNON
Damn. Why can't we get more realistic sword fighting in the movies? This is awesome.
+Sos collector Egh, do the movements they do here but then speed it up to make it look impressive xD
+Slevin Klevra
Because a real sword fight would be
1. Difficult to follow in anything but slow motion. There's a reason Hollywood sword fights are replete with oversized swings and reaction shots.
2. Not terribly impressive. It would be a lot of shuffling and minor injuries if the combatants were closely matched. Would you really enjoy 7 minutes of two guys circling and shuffling, giving each other minor cuts until one makes a mistake and catches a sword to the External Carotid? Maybe. But joe public is gonna find it boring.
Audiodump Who decides what the public likes?! Bah! Most people in the theaters goes like "sigh" when there is a movie fight which tries too hard to be "cool". I say give em a taste of this believable sword fighting and let em decide! Lightning fast dash and retreat attacks, aikido throws rather than pushing swords when an opponent rushes the hero and huge amounts of minor cuts in the final fight until both fighters are on the verge of bleeding out but the most enduring triumphs with a quick but effective attack in the end! Now that's the kind of shizzle I'd like to see!
Yoriko Arran
Google "Best sword fights in movies" and you'll see the kind of thing the public likes.
It's like the whole "Katana" myth. It persists because people like it. People like dramatic sword fights more than they like realism.
Yeah
I got mad respect for people who are masteres are using such an old art.
Lot harder and a lot more thought into sword fights than anything I could think of
This is the adults that use to play swords with every object as a kid
And never stopped.
*FEEL OLD YET*
I played swords with real swords as a kid. heh.
*Raises hand quietly*
Accurate
Me and my friend: **barely hitting eachother with pillows**
How our parents see it:
I can relate
That’s a little sus
I think it’s the other way around
@@tyronjackson2853 anything is sus if you think about it enough
Yeehaw oh nah, maybe everything you be doing is sus but not the rest of us
1:12 What you see before you get decapitated
"NICE"
Musical Butt that’s exactly what I was thinking.
Josh JeanJacket Jaeger maybe a few million
Josh JeanJacket Jaeger Imagine if it was just a clean swipe through.... their brains could not react so fast as to feel anything! It’s even weirder considering it’s believed that human heads can live for about 4 seconds after being deattached from the body.... imagine your conscious head rolling on the ground after being decapitated :/
@@Rtmmms It isn't easy to decapitate someone. Some executioners (wielding axes) even fail to do it in one hit and have to hit several times even though the conditions are more optimal than in a duel
took up fencing last fall, honestly swords fighting is absolutely fun and there is plenty of time to jest and toy with each other while the duel is on.
"Its harder than it looks people"
"It *looks* pretty hard actually*
this exchange had me chuckle. I used to be an Epee(ep-A) trainee before my teacher stopped giving out lessons, and I can confirm, that fencing in general is hard to do, and yet it just simply looks like a few armgestures and a strange stance, but it is so much more than that.
It really is, but it’s also really fun!
Sabre gang will destroy you
it also gets really hot in the fencing suits
@@obsessivecorvid you are definitely not wrong, it's almost unbearable in the summer without ac... almost
as a drummer, i can wholeheartedly agree that flailing around with sticks or anything else really can be done in a masterful manner but still looks like nothing much to the untrained eye (or ear)
Me: I can do that
Me a few seconds later: where did my arms go
LMAOOO
*I could have sworn I had a few more limbs*
PlatinumYT that’s from a flamingo video lol
@@kellygable2884 HAHAHAH YES I KNOW THAT VIDEO
Tis but a scratch
They've got curved swords. Curved. Swords.
Karv3r Four years old and references are still being made.
+Grant Mitchell I used to make four years old references...
Alright I'm gonna go hang myself now.
Grant Mitchell People still reference greek literature. It's older than 4 years old.
badarbiter oh shit the meme police has come.
Curved sword are actually harder to use.
This is one of the videos that convinced me to get into HEMA about 5 years ago.
1:12 is what death looks like
Tyjaun Langford yeah... it actually freaks you out the way the camera moves and that crackie sound...
that would be the last thing you see as you think
"yup. I'm fucked"
@@RoadHater And then your murderer says bissfully.
"Nice."
N i c e
Let's just say after that strike, you would be sufficiently offended.
This is incredible.
People really did fight like this.
Hard to imagine a boat full of pirates slowly gaining on your ship ,
And when they catch your ship,
Everyone must fight to the death.
That's scary .
I have a question is swordsman better in modern era or are they better in the time where people are doing war with swords and all other stuffs?
@@justakidwithnolife5671 Hard to say for sure, modern era has better training methods, better diets etc, generally most sports improve over time because of factors like this, but it was for sure taken much more seriously back then. I'd still guess these guys would be better than the vast majority back in the day, maybe not the best.
@@klooger28 Thanks for replying to my question :D.
Just a kid With no life to the previous comment yes modern day may have succeeded in having the best training methods, but I’m still sure swordsmen back in the day would still be the more skilled since it was the main form of combat and they have actual experience fighting in battle that involved to the death which modern day swordsmen don’t have
@@justakidwithnolife5671
May be a bit late however, Most of the techniques HEMA instructors use are recreational from manuscripts they read, written from people long ago.
second and a bit off topic but still worth considering. In the earlier era people trained with the sword when they where old enough to pick up a stick, so just considering by the time they are 18 or what not they most likely have 5+ years of training.
third is exposure. kids are really quick to learn basics from weapons by just seeing it in action, Kind of how a 13 year old know how to cock a pistol and squeeze the trigger even if he had never actually hold one before and visa versa with swords.
forth and most importantly, this is just MY OPINION on the SUBJECT!
If we keep getting videos like this in our recommended TH-cam might actually be restored to its former glory
Probably not
Wtf? TH-cam content was never better. There are so many talents out there :)
You don't happen to be a Trump supporter? #MakeTH-camGreatAgain
The only „former glory“ was when porns were still allowed to be uploaded.
@@RayTC agreed
I come back every once in a while to watch this spar again, and I have to say, it never fails to impress.
Yeah, I got bored and tired, so I watched this and now I'm back with energy. It's hype and even more if you speed it up. (x1,75 2:50)
Same
Same.
Same, my dude
I can see the majority of the dislikes are likely from angry sport saber fencers/ fans of sport fencing saying these two instructors couldn't beat any real fencers and Sabre looks nothing like this and they're too slow... okay guys, hear me out because I used to do Sport Fencing for a year so I feel like I can tell where you're coming from..
Sport Fencing whether it be Sabre/Epee or Foil is an amazing sport that takes talent, skill dedication to get to higher levels of competition and the participants of the highest competitions truly are skilled at what they are doing. There is absolutely no denying that! But all 3 kinds of fencing are an abstracted sport and the people who try to elevate sport fencing above HEMA in terms of being closer to real sword fighting is ridiculous.
People don't fight with swords anymore and due to that the knowledge has been lost in a sea of misconceptions with it's only surviving modern decesendant currently becoming more abstracted and adapting to sport with things like pistol grips, right of way rules and target zones. Modern day fencing is so far abstracted and you can't claim to be an evolution of something if you aren't able to use your techniques with a real sword. All that knowledge is left in old manuscripts and or an highly diluted form.
Your average modern day Olympic Sabre fencers if they were dropped into an area an expected to use a real sabre would likely die quickly, because while they have the twitch relaxes and fast footwork, they likely wouldn't be able to cut effectively with the sabre, because 95% of modern sabre fencers don't train in cutting with real sabres...alot harder said than done, and techniques that work with a very flexible, very light training blade like flick cuts and the like wouldn't work with a real, stiff 2 pound heavy metal Sabre. And that's not even getting into being naturally trained to charge in without worrying about your opponent's follow up attacks and the target zones of their sport limiting their scope of possible attacks and defenses.
Typical HEMA isn't a perfect replication by any means, especially tournaments, but someone training in British Military Sabre who learns how to fight with an accurately weighted weapon, how to cut with a Sabre, how to defend yourself and avoid afterblows with that Sabre under a rule set where your whole body is a target area and grappling is allowed would stand a much better chance of living through a real sword fight.
Now don't get me wrong, if you took an Olympic Saberist, trained him in British Military Sabre for year, taught him how to cut and handle a real sabre and taught him how to properly apply his reflexes and skills in a more realistic scenario I have no doubt that he would be one of the best people in all of HEMA...but as it stands, Sport Fencing is an abstracted sport far removed from real sword fighting like Kendo is from Kenjutsu..the majority of Olympic fencers know this, keyboard warriors don't. For those who know that, fine, for those who think they can speak like some expert on the topic of sword fighting because took a little sport fencing or know about sport fencing...are fooling themselves.
Redman Allen A beautiful explanation. Thank you for this.
Redman Allen this comment needs more likes
Is kendo a legit sword fighting martial art?
Kendo's a sport - think the Japanese equivalent of fencing. However, also like fencing, it is super athletic, much better represented in the competitive scene than HEMA, and is a great thing to start with if you want to get into HEMA/kenjutsu later. So don't let its not being a martial art stop you if you were thinking of taking it up. I used to practice kendo (before HEMA) and it's great fun.
Conor McGregor if you used kendo irl you would die very fast and you can see that in how fast kendo matches are lol
Gods.....I wish we had a school like this in my area.
bugzilla2001 XyerDark same
bugzilla2001 Lacey / Olympia?
bugzilla2001 I wish we had a school like this in my country : X
Even though I have nearby a second generation Norwegian Medieval sword school, I think that's the proper name.
bugzilla2001 same here.
+bugzilla2001 Yeah, I have a WHFA in my state (Wisconsin Historical Fencing Association). It's too far away for me to go to like 2 hours away. Says it teaches armed and unarmed fighting and it has the HEMA Alliance logo on it's site. So it might teach more then just fencing.
HE DID THE "show me a good time, jack!" IN REAL LIFE WHAT A LEGEND
OK LETS DANCE😊
Have you heard of those warriors from -Hammerfell- Skallagrim? They have curved swords! Curved. Swords.
A Giraffe with unscrewable pommels. Unscrewable pommels!
I know, I used to fight with them all the time... but then I took an arrow in the knee....
Harsh haze if you look at your reply good enough, it looks like your saying a giraffe has unscrewable pommels
It's those little knobs on their heads. They don't come off.
skyrim
It's so elegant, fluent and fast paced. I don't get why people prefer movie stuff over realistic sword action, yes they're sabres not just regular swords but you know what I mean.
Not Now because people want to be entertained. They want to see heavy action. Thats why its called a tv show. Nonetheless this is pretty cool too.
Not Now I don't get why people can't just like both. I like a flashy action sequence in movies. I also like the elegance and artistic flow of saber dueling.
There is also the fact that most real sword fights only last two or three hits, then the battle is practically over. In movies, sword fights are made to extend for abnormally long periods of time in order to keep the audience entertained.
At the same time tho it still lacks a degree of authenticity, knowing that they won't/can't suffer any real debilitating or life threatening injuries completely changes how they fight here vs how a fight would actually look. Not talking trash, these guys love what they do and are very dedicated and it's cool to watch. I just don't think people should be acting like this is exactly how an authentic sword fighting would look.
Saber fights are always portrayed like this in TV shows; Black Sails, War and Peace. Most shows use normal swords and not sabers, like you said, and obviously the fighting style is different, what's the issue?
Me with a sword:
*Years of Sword Play on WII Sports Resort has led me to this moment*
BRO I JUST COMMENTED SOMETHING ABOUT WII RESORT, only legends know about wii resort, for one wii won’t die
Wii sports resort was one of the best games ive playes
*matt beats you*
Me who still has it and casually plays it still
@@daet.4570 oh same
i love the way he swung his saber in 2:55
this simple thing makes things better
this looks more like pirates of the Carebean fighting style, than it looks medieval.
and I LOVE IT.
Well yeah. These are 17th century swords used with 17th century techniques.
Pirate sabers were meant to break bones not cut
@@loneliestshrimp1181 Not true. Basically every sword was meant to cut. They could break bones in the process but that was not their main function. Maces and warhammers were weapons meant to break bones.
It's a saber duel not broadsword.
@@loneliestshrimp1181 european pirates favored the cutlass not sabers, and they were very sharp.
It's hard to stay angry at those death star gun operators when you catch them in their moments of leisure.
2:00 looks like one of those medieval paintings of sword fighting
That is more similar to the renaissance ones.
Out of all the stuff I see HEMA guys do in videos, this is the thing I wanna try the most. I've done foam boffer combat (Belegarth) and I've done Olympic-style Epee fencing, now I wanna try this.
"That's got to be the best pirate I've ever seen"
"So it would seem"
*HE'S A PIRATE PLAYS*
Definitely. The best blade-to-blade pirate swordfight!
These are Sabres though, so these dudes could probably only fight on the top deck or poop deck.
🙁
7 year old me when I find a big stick in the playground:
Gaming and idiocy
Gaming and idiocy
Gaming and idiocy
Gaming and idiocy
Gaming and idiocy
Girls in class with meter sticks: UGH, what do I do with this?
Boys:
The girls know exectly what to do with them
If u know what I mean
@@GGteimo I was hoping someone would say this 😂
@@GGteimo Might as well be the fuckin Panama canal if it go that deep
I can attest to this
@Morning Sun Sparkles Dew on fresh grass yeah, and if you're white then that's an extra, because then you can just keep on believing in stereotypes