My only complaint was the slickness of the stock so I replaced it with a Worker buffer tube stock. Like many, I only use Worker Talon mags and the one Seagull mag with this blaster so I've not experienced the o ring issue. I do wish Worker would release an Orange magazine (Dragon Claw) for this blaster but I reached out to them and they said they had no plans to do so.
That not surprising, the orange was a special order just for OOD and they didn’t start making the matching mag colors til after those were available iirc. But I agree that would be cool. Luckily the 18 rounders come in orange anyway!
As someone who’s done the Koda compatibility mods, it’s really not that difficult to do and totally worth it if you have the tools. The seagull is still one of my favorite blasters and I get a lot of use out of mine
@@Hamboadloaf there’s a printed part that replaces the mag release with a tooth about a mm or two higher. You gotta cut out space in the shell for that, and then cut and bend the dart gate up a little bit to account for the higher placement of the feed lips. Took me about 10 minutes with dremel and some scotch-brite
Thanks! Just to clarify, I didn’t mod it. The blaster that I teased at the end of the video about 18:31 is not a seagull, it’s a harrier that I modded to be as small as a seagull but significantly more powerful.
I've seen folks get the seagull up to 300 fps using a few sabre parts, the 1.6x300 spring and a spacer I think? I think there's also a hole in the plunger tube that can be sealed as well. Good luck!
Unfortunately, They are not using standard 1g darts to get those numbers. I’ve already gone through those combinations . It takes 1.8 cut swift springs to get that out of this blaster. And the prime is god awful at that. Also, I would advise against covering that hole as it actually provides a small amount of acceleration at the beginning of the stroke, releasing the plunger rod. And it can mess with your blaster at lower FPS
Interesting compatibility issue. I've never run into it because I have a few dozen Talons in my arsenal and I don't think I've ever even tried to use the lone Koda in my stash with the Seagull.
I test all the mags I own with pretty much every blaster I review but also my entire team uses kodas . So I had thought about switching to this blaster from the Val M so I can share mags with my team. My usual primary uses reverse angled talon mags 😭
I put the xyl unicorn frontgrip on it and a better buffertube stock. The stock buttstock is not comfortable for people with long arms The iron sights are fantastic. Put a worker 8° Bcar on it for almost perfect accuracy.
@@melntess yeah I think I’m one of the few that prefers a super low height over bore. Most people would prefer your set up. On my Lynx I actually ran a set of risers under the iron sights to get the up where I wanted them. I actually use a $50 red dot WITH my irons inside the window on my comp set up. I might post about it later if people are interested
@@kingofgames234 that's how I had mine, co witnessing on the irons. Then I realized that I'd rather just shoot blind if my sight battery died than use the irons. 😂
@@melntess oh I see what you mean. But I actually have my irons for one distance and my optic set for a much further distance… I use them simultaneously. Depending on how far or close my target is.
Id argue that the issue is more of a Mag issue rather than a blaster issue. The blaster is made to work with worker Talon magazines and not necessarily Koda or Tachi mags as their feed lips are shaped differently. Plus I don’t think that Kodas are really necessary on a Springer. 15 Rd talons with or without an extension are more than enough in my experience
I might have been on board with that logic if the worker harrier didn’t exist… but it does and doesn’t suffer at all from this issue. Kodas are not necessary in casual play, that’s true. But pretty much every competitive team in the US has at least one set of kodas on their team with many having only kodas. It’s the durability of kodas that make them so appealing to comp players. And many tournaments divide ammo in sets of 20 darts so it’s easier to count. Plus although the spring strength is not necessary for a springer, if you have teammates running fly wheels or AEGs … you want to run max compatibility in case they need mags from you.
@@Seththenerfer yeah the harrier works perfectly with both kodas and tachis. That’s part of why I chose to do the cut down harrier mod for Maryland mayhem tournament instead . Got a build guide I’m currently working on for that and in it I explain more of why I did that. But kodas contributed
I've taken some 220 grit sandpaper on the trigger guard of my Fire Rat as it was also giving me the sharp edge feel. The plastic is thick enough so that you can round off the edge enough so that it sits more comfortable in your hand. It's a bummer that this one is made of metal. I wonder if someone could make 3d model of a more rounded trigger guard for it.
Thanks for the video. I’m having the same O ring issues with the seagull. Could you share what O ring size I should get, or a supplier that sells them?
@@MrKillerHobbes dropping a review tomorrow, then the harrier video next. I am not planning to review the SBL right now but the SBL2 video is coming next month when I catch up on the wave of pro blasters that just came out
@@Acryodite not that I know of . When I say “directly from worker” what I mean is that it’s a first party up grade. I should have worded that differently.
@@kingofgames234also have you herd of Brooklyn Tony’s flywheeler there’s not hardware kits for it but it looks promising also it’s hardware is pretty cheap it only needs inserts and electronics. You should check it out
@@kingofgames234 have you herd of the 3d designer Brooklyn Tony he has a flywheeler that does not need a computer to work just basic electrical components and hardware I suggest checking him out
@@kingofgames234 yes, the dart gate is not sitting tightly in the front receiver mold, hence the wiggle. i didn’t notice the wiggle until i disassembled the front receiver and reassembled it, any ideas for a remedy?
@@shaunfoo2332 changing orings is a given, sure. When they reach their natural end of life. But we are talking less than a tenth of its life cycle. I went through my oring in less than a week. And I definitely don’t see how “just carry more mags” does anything for this issue. But if these things don’t bother you specifically , they don’t bother you … at least now you know about them 🤷♂️
My only complaint was the slickness of the stock so I replaced it with a Worker buffer tube stock. Like many, I only use Worker Talon mags and the one Seagull mag with this blaster so I've not experienced the o ring issue. I do wish Worker would release an Orange magazine (Dragon Claw) for this blaster but I reached out to them and they said they had no plans to do so.
That not surprising, the orange was a special order just for OOD and they didn’t start making the matching mag colors til after those were available iirc. But I agree that would be cool. Luckily the 18 rounders come in orange anyway!
Thank you for the info and your opinions. Take care.
Thanks, you too!
Awesome! Thank you so much for the informative and thorough review! Very helpful to know about Koda compatibility.
Glad you found value in it! The next vid is gonna be a wild one so stay tuned
As someone who’s done the Koda compatibility mods, it’s really not that difficult to do and totally worth it if you have the tools. The seagull is still one of my favorite blasters and I get a lot of use out of mine
Agree it’s pretty easy to do!
How do you do it?
@@Hamboadloaf there’s a printed part that replaces the mag release with a tooth about a mm or two higher. You gotta cut out space in the shell for that, and then cut and bend the dart gate up a little bit to account for the higher placement of the feed lips. Took me about 10 minutes with dremel and some scotch-brite
@@IkAAris521 that’s wonderful to know! Thank you so much!
Great video. I am looking forward to the mods you made to it.
Thanks! Just to clarify, I didn’t mod it. The blaster that I teased at the end of the video about 18:31 is not a seagull, it’s a harrier that I modded to be as small as a seagull but significantly more powerful.
You're not alone, i like that stock myself..
Bro that last clip when u kill those guys and score the ball was crazy :D :D
Love your videos keep up ;)
@@FortycadeConcept thanks ! That play was so wild, it was a really tense match. Scored in the last 4 seconds of the game.
I've seen folks get the seagull up to 300 fps using a few sabre parts, the 1.6x300 spring and a spacer I think? I think there's also a hole in the plunger tube that can be sealed as well. Good luck!
Unfortunately, They are not using standard 1g darts to get those numbers. I’ve already gone through those combinations . It takes 1.8 cut swift springs to get that out of this blaster. And the prime is god awful at that.
Also, I would advise against covering that hole as it actually provides a small amount of acceleration at the beginning of the stroke, releasing the plunger rod. And it can mess with your blaster at lower FPS
@@kingofgames234 where did you get your swift spring? i bought mine off amazon and the quality is terrible.
Great video man.
@@samdavidson6483 thank you!
Subscribed bro. You sir are a good teacher in this hobby and easy to understand. I hope to get more into this sport with my son soon. God bless man!
@@LuisGonzalez-jh3um thank you so much for the kind words 🙏
Interesting compatibility issue. I've never run into it because I have a few dozen Talons in my arsenal and I don't think I've ever even tried to use the lone Koda in my stash with the Seagull.
I test all the mags I own with pretty much every blaster I review but also my entire team uses kodas . So I had thought about switching to this blaster from the Val M so I can share mags with my team. My usual primary uses reverse angled talon mags 😭
17:57- I am some people
Oh trust me, WE KNOW 😂
I put the xyl unicorn frontgrip on it and a better buffertube stock. The stock buttstock is not comfortable for people with long arms The iron sights are fantastic. Put a worker 8° Bcar on it for almost perfect accuracy.
Agreed on the unicorn front grip, I also use that one! Using the GFZ BCAR on mine
I put a $50 red dot on mine. The iron sights are too low to get a proper sight picture (for me at least) and are not adjustable.
@@melntess yeah I think I’m one of the few that prefers a super low height over bore. Most people would prefer your set up. On my Lynx I actually ran a set of risers under the iron sights to get the up where I wanted them. I actually use a $50 red dot WITH my irons inside the window on my comp set up. I might post about it later if people are interested
@@kingofgames234 that's how I had mine, co witnessing on the irons. Then I realized that I'd rather just shoot blind if my sight battery died than use the irons. 😂
@@melntess oh I see what you mean. But I actually have my irons for one distance and my optic set for a much further distance… I use them simultaneously. Depending on how far or close my target is.
Thanks for the video. Now I know why my Seagull keeps losing its air seal. I typically run it with Koda mags.
Id argue that the issue is more of a Mag issue rather than a blaster issue. The blaster is made to work with worker Talon magazines and not necessarily Koda or Tachi mags as their feed lips are shaped differently. Plus I don’t think that Kodas are really necessary on a Springer. 15 Rd talons with or without an extension are more than enough in my experience
I might have been on board with that logic if the worker harrier didn’t exist… but it does and doesn’t suffer at all from this issue.
Kodas are not necessary in casual play, that’s true. But pretty much every competitive team in the US has at least one set of kodas on their team with many having only kodas.
It’s the durability of kodas that make them so appealing to comp players. And many tournaments divide ammo in sets of 20 darts so it’s easier to count. Plus although the spring strength is not necessary for a springer, if you have teammates running fly wheels or AEGs … you want to run max compatibility in case they need mags from you.
@@kingofgames234 oh I thought the harrier had the same issue. I don’t use Kodas so I wouldn’t know. But I might since I just got a Spirit :P
@@Seththenerfer yeah the harrier works perfectly with both kodas and tachis. That’s part of why I chose to do the cut down harrier mod for Maryland mayhem tournament instead . Got a build guide I’m currently working on for that and in it I explain more of why I did that. But kodas contributed
Why drflux fps testing place?
@@limezhitel because he was nice enough to let me use it to finish the video, when I didn’t have my set up.
Is that a fingerboard on the wall that’s sick
Yes… yes it is haha it’s a Santa Cruz tech deck iirc. Good eye! 👀
@@kingofgames234thanks it’s also cool with the ghost on the bottom
@@UGooD45 thanks, my can variant collection is getting out of hand 😂
@@kingofgames234it bigger then mine
I've taken some 220 grit sandpaper on the trigger guard of my Fire Rat as it was also giving me the sharp edge feel. The plastic is thick enough so that you can round off the edge enough so that it sits more comfortable in your hand. It's a bummer that this one is made of metal. I wonder if someone could make 3d model of a more rounded trigger guard for it.
Thanks for the video. I’m having the same O ring issues with the seagull. Could you share what O ring size I should get, or a supplier that sells them?
waiting for the 2 new vids on sbl and seagull sized harrier
@@MrKillerHobbes dropping a review tomorrow, then the harrier video next. I am not planning to review the SBL right now but the SBL2 video is coming next month when I catch up on the wave of pro blasters that just came out
Can you do a vid on the mod to fix the koda issue? I’d greatly appreciate it
Now you made me want one 😅
Does worker have an official website?
@@Acryodite not that I know of . When I say “directly from worker” what I mean is that it’s a first party up grade. I should have worded that differently.
@@kingofgames234also have you herd of Brooklyn Tony’s flywheeler there’s not hardware kits for it but it looks promising also it’s hardware is pretty cheap it only needs inserts and electronics. You should check it out
@@kingofgames234 have you herd of the 3d designer Brooklyn Tony he has a flywheeler that does not need a computer to work just basic electrical components and hardware I suggest checking him out
does yours prime get crazy stiff on the 1.6 250 and the 1.6 300 spring too? Mine does
Big blind is still my fave on the new album ❤
So good 🙌
is there a slight wiggle on ur barrel after u have barrel swapped and tightened it?
@@5ephiroth555 nope, is your dart gate loose?
@@kingofgames234 yes, the dart gate is not sitting tightly in the front receiver mold, hence the wiggle. i didn’t notice the wiggle until i disassembled the front receiver and reassembled it, any ideas for a remedy?
@@kingofgames234 fixed it with some teflon tape
What issues
I own one and lobe it.. also own a sabre apex prime and it's so much better.. but some people won't pay the price! But the price has gone down
whats ur fav blaster right out the box?
@@MrKillerHobbes another tough question from you haha but I’d say out of the box… and available to buy new right now…. The HC Diana
The big issue seems like a non issue.... changing o rings is a given, and just carry more mags.
@@shaunfoo2332 changing orings is a given, sure. When they reach their natural end of life. But we are talking less than a tenth of its life cycle. I went through my oring in less than a week. And I definitely don’t see how “just carry more mags” does anything for this issue.
But if these things don’t bother you specifically , they don’t bother you … at least now you know about them 🤷♂️