Thank you so much! That’s actually something I was hoping someone would let me know. Welcome to the channel and I hope you’ll be back around for future videos!
THOMAS-- WOW! What a nice video and I learned a lot about the 24-120f4! I have the Z6II with the 24-70 2.8s and the 501.8s and that's it. I agree with you Thomas, about the 24-120 for a all around lense! Thank you Thomas for everthing! Randy Bocksnick(Montana)
Thank you too! I hear that the stores can't keep them in stock. I know that I have waited since the day it was announced and am so excited to have the privilege to own one!
Very detailed and thorough review… thank you very much…i have also added this lens to my kit and the range is fantastic along with quality… was shooting some cityscapes using 6 stop nd filter and still fantastic details at 200% edge to edge.
Why is VR necessary though? Stabilization is great with the IBIS that exists in all Z bodies save for the APS-C bodies. I understand if you own one of those but otherwise, you have VR already in the body. I can handhold at 1/10th 1/4 of a second because it’s actually VR that is built in. Most of Nikons pro Z lenses don’t have VR just for this reason. It’s simply not necessary/
Thanks for your information. Waiting for mine to arrive with anticipation. So far I’m enjoying the 14-30 and the FTZ 2 with the F lenses. With the 100-400 also on order I’ll have my “holy trinity” to go with the new 6ii. Big move to mirrorless.
I love your videos, very relaxing to watch. Thank you. Im thinking of getting the Nikon z6 ii with 24-200mm for an all-around lens. Thoughts? Would love your input. I heard there could be issues with light/photo quality with a large mm range. I’m traveling internationally and ideally don’t want to take multiple lenses with me. (Wish Nikon z6iii was out too but don’t have time to wait before my travels!)
So, I had the 24-200 and it was an excellent lens. The 24-120 is also excellent but doesn't have the reach. The image quality increase isn't worth it if you are in need of the extra reach. You can't go wrong with either really. You may or may not know where I landed. I ended up selling the 24-200 last year as I just like the 24-120 so much. If I had never bought the 24-120, I wouldn't feel like I was missing anything with the 24-200. I hope this helps. It sounds a bit schizophrenic but I hope I made sense. As for the Z6II. Excellent camera! I don't think you can go wrong with it. Its built like a tank, is a great all around camera. Has excellent video if that matters and is perfectly sized. Overall a winner. I would only suggest the Z7II if you need the resolution for larger printing or a lot of cropping.
@@elafal377 I think if you are really careful with your scaling and use Lightroom's AI scaling feature, you can go easily up to 2' feet by 3' feet or larger. 4x6 might be a stretch up definitely large. You will find more detail coming out of higher megafpixel cameras but it's really all in how close you view a photo on the wall at. I've seen 4x6 foot images from the Z6II that Nikon printed for a show and they were amazing so I guess even 4x6 feet is not too far to take it if you handle the file correctly.
Excellent Video!! You sold me! It will be added to my arsenal of lens. Can't wait to try it on my Z7.. You are very knowledgeable and a Z7 Shooter, what more could you ask? .. You are providing the content that is hard to find on Z7 and S Lens. Looking forward to more! Your chanel will have 110K subscribers soon with this kind of quality content. Glad i found you!
Thank you so much for your compliments! I hope you are right. I'm glad you enjoyed the content though and stick around, I plan on doing a lot of Z7 content in the future. It seems it might be the historically bashed and therefore forgotten "perfect" landscape camera. :-)
man the video was a bit long, but the time went by fast, good INFORMATIVE video. great pacing in the video .. went by fast. thanks for the review. subbing!
I'm looking forward the new lens. The F mount version is my most used lens for a decade, handling nearly anything I threw at it. The real proof of its quality is when I make 22" prints from my D800 and Z7 files. Detail is amazing. I'm aware the new Z version is even better. Thanks for your vid.
My f mount 24-120 lived on my 750 and now my 24-200 lives on my z 7.2. Not sure I can give up the 24-200 but I really love the 24-120 focal length. Nice review thanks.
Yeah, my 24-200 lived on my Z7 also but this new lens is so good, I don’t mind cutting off the upper end. Then again, I do carry a 100-400 when I travel so I’m not really missing anything but convenience. Thanks for watching!
@@ThomasPetzwinkler for Christmas I got from my wonderful wife the 100-400 z lens. I have not had an opportunity to really use it, but hope to on Friday.
Awesome video. Great pictures. Actually this should be watched on a high resolution big monitor. BTW, can you tell me what tripod ballhead you are using both for the camera and the phone(assuming you took that video).
Nice lens test, very informative and well presented, I enjoyed watching. My colleague has been shooting that lens and raving about it! I’ve subbed, and am looking forward to the next vid. Cheers (ps, where can I get some of those mirror glasses- so 😎cool)
Thank you so much! Good to have you here. So, the glasses. They are goodr glasses that I picked up at REI. If you are not in the US, I’m not sure where you’d get goodr glasses. I love them though and for 25 USD, they are a steal.
Really like your channel, I am a Pentax shooter, have been thinking about getting a mirrorless system also, mostly been eyeing the Z6ii with the 24-120mm, looks like a very good all round lens. One small thing on you video, the music is a bit too loud, otherwise excellent production. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
hey thomas always great to see someone actually going out and taking photos :-) I especially appreciate who you explain your thinking process when looking for the best composition. one think made me wonder though: looking at the live histo it seems that you do not ETTR - is this on purpose or do you just think the dynamic range is sufficient so you dont need it?
Hello! Thanks for watching. :-) Okay, let cover this in order. In my years of experience shooting Nikons, ETTR isn't for them. ETTR is for Canons and FUijs that tend to block the shadows. Besides, I'd much rather lose a shadow detail than a highlight. In addition and to answer your question on dynamic range, yes, the massive DR on the Z7 holds shadow detail forever. I've rescued 3-5 stops of underexposure in the past. In addition, I never shoot to the right because of what it does to highlights and lighter tones. It compresses them severely. Mostly this has to do with the fact that the camera sensor isn't collecting data linearly. When you push those highlight further to the right, even if you keep them all in the histogram, you have compressed them fairly severely and you can't fix that. I hope this answers your question?
@@ThomasPetzwinkler yes it does, thanks a lot! I am currently using fuji apsc, and it already exposes in a way that it totally protects the highlights, so I can imagine the behaviour differs quite a bit
My most used lens on my D850 was my Sigma Art 24-105 F4. I always found the range of the 24-70 too limiting. When I bought my Z7 I paired it with the 24-200 since I got tired of waiting on the 24-105 that was on the Z roadmap. And honestly I have been quite pleased with the 24-200. I was curious if it was worth the upgrade to the 24-120 F4 and I think this helped convince me. Thanks!
This was really interesting and informative Thomas, I wanted this lens from the minute it was on the roadmap and finally got it two days ago here in Scotland. I absolutely love pretty much everything about it, I will be really testing it on a coming trip to the Highlands but I just did a quick check on my brick garage and it is simply superb. What really surprised me was how sharp wide open it is even into the corners, and stopping down to f8 to f11 was just amazing. I now know why I had to wait a while to get it, the dealers are getting stripped of stock overnight! Nikon definitely has a winner with this beauty, as a mainly Landscaper, an ultrawide and this will cover 90% of what I need, have subscribed and look forward to more of how you find it.
I am keeping it for now because I do like having a do all lens for when I need it. The 24-120 is much better but when I am out shooting, I still carry the 100-400 to make up for the difference. With the 24-200, I can take one lens and get by if I need to go ultralight and don't want to carry anything else. We will see though. I frankly haven't touched the 24-200 since I bought the 24-120 and I rarely touch the 24-70 F2.8 either. Problem is that when I shoot video jobs, I frequently use 2 or 3 cameras and like to have a good range for each one so having 3 24-? lenses makes each video camera have the ability to shoot at least 24-70. For video I never use primes and rarely use the 14-30. As with all things though, your mileage may vary.
Thanks Thomas. I am looking to buy this lens to replace the Z24-200. On that Z24-200 the corners at 24mm@F4 really look ugly - full of CA even stopped down it's still very visible, how do the corners compare to the Z24-120, hopefully that issue is almost non existant. This is the reason I am still using the Z24-70F4 for wide angle, that lens does a really good job.
I’ll tell you my copy of the 24-200 wasn’t that bad. You can see all of the work I’ve shot with it over the last year. This lens however is better and all of those problems are basically non existent. This lens is excellent in all regards.
I've shot a bunch of video with it the last couple of days and its very very good. Motors are silent and very quick. Even at F4 the autofocus is spot on. Its just a great lens.
Well, low light focusing is always going to be a bit better at 2.8 but I don’t think enough to matter. It’s really only one stop and I haven’t found it to slow down noticeably in low light. Remember though, I don’t shoot sports very often now that my son is in college but I don’t think it would be problematic at all for that. If I had to chose, I would take in to account size, weight, price and convenience. If you don’t mind the size, weight, and price, the 2.8 will always be a little bit better. Enough to matter? That’s something only you can decide. If you absolutely need the extra stop or light, that’s also something to take in to account. If you find that lighter, slightly smaller and with extra reach are what’s important, then go with the 24-120. The extra stop isn’t much of a bother for portraiture as you’ll likely use 4-5.6 for that anyway, the longer focal length is ideal for portraiture and I believe the image quality is so close that you won’t readily be able to see the difference. I hope this helps…. My end comment will be that if I didn’t own the 24-70 2.8, after buying the 24-120, I would feel no need to have the 2.8 at all.
No thats the F-Stop Ajna. Fantastic bag! I still love the 24-120. I can't figure out why Thomas Heaton doesn't think its way better than the 24-70 F4. I own both and I can tell you it is far better. Ah well. Different Strokes, Different Folks.
@@ThomasPetzwinkler Ah- makes sense it looks like a Shimoda. Those are great bags. Yeah, the 24-120 is the lens that should be in every Z camera bag, in my opinion.
Thanks for the review. My question is what is your assessment when used at the 120 focal length? I’ve read that it’s not as good as the 24-70 range … and for my uses I’m really interested in the longer focal range performance. Thanks.
Thank you for watching! So, at 120, I didn’t find it to be overly soft. I like to pixel peep as much as the next guy but if there is a bit of softness at 120, I don’t find it to be bothersome or something that stops be from making 17x22 or larger prints from it.
Great review 👏👌, I have the 24-70 f4s and that is really sharp for what it is. I have the Z7 and want the most sharpness to resolve the sensor, was thinking of upgrading to rhe 2.8z but am on the fence as another reviewer has shown that the 24-120f4 z is slightly softer than the 24-70 f4 version. Have you found this to be the case ? Is the 24-70 f2.8 noticeably sharper than this lens ? Thankyou
I would say the opposite, had it now for just over a week and it is slightly sharper than the 24-70 f4, I tested it against one of the sharpest 50mm lenses the Z 50mm 1.8 both at 50mm and was quite astounded at just how sharp the 24-120 was against it at 5.6-11 in the centre at 100% I would defy you to tell the difference. at the extreme edges it was slightly softer, but nothing like I would have thought up against a very sharp prime. This lens is a beauty, just what I was waiting for.
@@douglasritchie2836 Thankyou for the response, I will have my copy soon and am looking forward to taking some decent test shots with it , looking forward to that extra 50mm of focal length and better build quality 😀
I think the thing to remember is that the 24-70 f4 may have a slight edge in center (though I don’t really think that’s the case and if the reviewer is Ricci, he still thinks the 24-120 is a superior lens over the 24-70 f4 in pretty much all ways) but no matter what you do it tends to soften as you move toward the edges. The 24-120 doesn’t have that problem. Also, sharpness is not the end of the story. Color fidelity and rendering are all far superior to the 24-70 f4 to such an extent that all the 24-70 f4 is just not an option in my mind any longer unless you need the compactness of it. Thanks for watching!
@@ThomasPetzwinkler Thankyou, I finally received my copy and have tested it out , from 24-50 it outperforms the 24-70f4, I would say at 70mm the 24-70 f4 has a slight edge in the corners at all apertures and at 120mm it is softer in the extreme corners at all apertures, something to be mindful of when shooting panoramas, but that an be worked around. Definitely renders colours and contrast better than the 24-70 f4, overall I'm extremely happy with this lens and it saves me from forking out extra $$$ for the 24-70 2.8 version.
Yeah, I’ve turned mine off too. I just kept hitting it. Good thinking for the exposure compensation when you are using a mode where you know you have to watch out for it though!
Hi, I really like your review of this lens. And if it’s not a secret can you please share the first location of this video, I live in DC area and love to visit this park. Thank you in advance.
So, it is a bit of a secret. I only say that because of how crowded places get when you tell others about them. Shoot me an email and I will let you know what I know. :-)
Excellent! I wish you all of the luck. It’s a hard road if you aren’t trying to please the general public. Lots of work and time for zero return save for being able to interact with folks like you! That’s why I do it, I just love the community!
This was really interesting and helpful. I felt I was along on your walk and day with you.
Thanks Thomas found this review really helpful.
Great vid. Looking forward to receiving mine👍
You sold me on this lens! Looking forward to using it with my Zf. Thanks! I’ve also subscribed.
I’m so glad I was helpful! Thanks for the subscription too. I’ll be making all sorts of content so hopefully you’ll enjoy some here and there.
Watched the whole video and enjoyed every minute👍.
Thank you so much! That’s actually something I was hoping someone would let me know. Welcome to the channel and I hope you’ll be back around for future videos!
THOMAS-- WOW! What a nice video and I learned a lot about the 24-120f4! I have the Z6II with the 24-70 2.8s and the 501.8s and that's it. I agree with you Thomas, about the 24-120 for a all around lense! Thank you Thomas for everthing! Randy Bocksnick(Montana)
Thanks Randy. I appreciate your input on this! This is one of the things I love about TH-cam, the interaction and ideas being exchanged. :-)
Thanks Tom, very helpful review and great shots...I'm subscribing
Thank you so much! Every subscription counts and it feels great to hear a nice compliment about the work I do. Welcome to the channel!
I'm going to purchase this lens in few days. Thanks a lot for the review 😇
You are welcome. I believe you will love it!
Thanks. Can’t wait for my local store to get enough of these in to reach me on the pre-order list.
Thank you too! I hear that the stores can't keep them in stock. I know that I have waited since the day it was announced and am so excited to have the privilege to own one!
Very detailed and thorough review… thank you very much…i have also added this lens to my kit and the range is fantastic along with quality… was shooting some cityscapes using 6 stop nd filter and still fantastic details at 200% edge to edge.
It's just an amazing lens isn't it? Nikon is really outdoing themselves these day!
@@ThomasPetzwinkler this lens is one of the reason i am moving to mirrorless and ditching my 24-70 2.8 non VR F mount lens
Excellent video and great review of the lens. Thank you
Thank you for watching!
Great on all accounts, except absence of VR! Thanks for the video
❤️🙌🏼
Why is VR necessary though? Stabilization is great with the IBIS that exists in all Z bodies save for the APS-C bodies. I understand if you own one of those but otherwise, you have VR already in the body. I can handhold at 1/10th 1/4 of a second because it’s actually VR that is built in. Most of Nikons pro Z lenses don’t have VR just for this reason. It’s simply not necessary/
Thanks for your information. Waiting for mine to arrive with anticipation. So far I’m enjoying the 14-30 and the FTZ 2 with the F lenses. With the 100-400 also on order I’ll have my “holy trinity” to go with the new 6ii. Big move to mirrorless.
Welcome to the fold! You won’t regret it! 🙂
I love your videos, very relaxing to watch. Thank you. Im thinking of getting the Nikon z6 ii with 24-200mm for an all-around lens. Thoughts? Would love your input. I heard there could be issues with light/photo quality with a large mm range. I’m traveling internationally and ideally don’t want to take multiple lenses with me. (Wish Nikon z6iii was out too but don’t have time to wait before my travels!)
So, I had the 24-200 and it was an excellent lens. The 24-120 is also excellent but doesn't have the reach. The image quality increase isn't worth it if you are in need of the extra reach. You can't go wrong with either really. You may or may not know where I landed. I ended up selling the 24-200 last year as I just like the 24-120 so much. If I had never bought the 24-120, I wouldn't feel like I was missing anything with the 24-200. I hope this helps. It sounds a bit schizophrenic but I hope I made sense. As for the Z6II. Excellent camera! I don't think you can go wrong with it. Its built like a tank, is a great all around camera. Has excellent video if that matters and is perfectly sized. Overall a winner. I would only suggest the Z7II if you need the resolution for larger printing or a lot of cropping.
@@ThomasPetzwinkler very helpful thank you! It would be nice to print large, how big can I go with z6 ii?
@@elafal377 I think if you are really careful with your scaling and use Lightroom's AI scaling feature, you can go easily up to 2' feet by 3' feet or larger. 4x6 might be a stretch up definitely large. You will find more detail coming out of higher megafpixel cameras but it's really all in how close you view a photo on the wall at. I've seen 4x6 foot images from the Z6II that Nikon printed for a show and they were amazing so I guess even 4x6 feet is not too far to take it if you handle the file correctly.
@@ThomasPetzwinkler soo helpful, thank you!
You are welcome!
Excellent Video!! You sold me! It will be added to my arsenal of lens. Can't wait to try it on my Z7.. You are very knowledgeable and a Z7 Shooter, what more could you ask? .. You are providing the content that is hard to find on Z7 and S Lens. Looking forward to more! Your chanel will have 110K subscribers soon with this kind of quality content. Glad i found you!
Thank you so much for your compliments! I hope you are right. I'm glad you enjoyed the content though and stick around, I plan on doing a lot of Z7 content in the future. It seems it might be the historically bashed and therefore forgotten "perfect" landscape camera. :-)
Beautiful photos..
I just ordered this lens and the Z7II. Thank you for the guidance.
I do believe you will be nothing but pleased. Thanks for watching the channel! Hope to see you around here again.
Thanks so much,best review so far.
Subscribed.
Thank you so much! I am glad you enjoyed it.
man the video was a bit long, but the time went by fast, good INFORMATIVE video. great pacing in the video .. went by fast. thanks for the review. subbing!
Quite a comprehensive review with some lovely shots
If I go ff Mirrorless I'll consider getting it.
I have the F version 📷👍
I think you'll find the Z version far outperforms the F version, though both are excellent lenses.
I'm looking forward the new lens. The F mount version is my most used lens for a decade, handling nearly anything I threw at it. The real proof of its quality is when I make 22" prints from my D800 and Z7 files. Detail is amazing. I'm aware the new Z version is even better. Thanks for your vid.
Thank you for watching! You won’t be disappointed in the new lens. It’s very very good.
My f mount 24-120 lived on my 750 and now my 24-200 lives on my z 7.2. Not sure I can give up the 24-200 but I really love the 24-120 focal length. Nice review thanks.
Yeah, my 24-200 lived on my Z7 also but this new lens is so good, I don’t mind cutting off the upper end. Then again, I do carry a 100-400 when I travel so I’m not really missing anything but convenience. Thanks for watching!
@@ThomasPetzwinkler for Christmas I got from my wonderful wife the 100-400 z lens. I have not had an opportunity to really use it, but hope to on Friday.
Awesome video. Great pictures. Actually this should be watched on a high resolution big monitor.
BTW, can you tell me what tripod ballhead you are using both for the camera and the phone(assuming you took that video).
Thank you! Yeah, hi res is best!
Nice review, thanks. Since this lens has such a good close focus it would be good to see how it performs at those reproduction ratios.
I will make a note of that for the next visit with this lens. Thanks for the thought on that! Not sure why I forgot that that was important.
Yeah that would be very helpful.
Nice lens test, very informative and well presented, I enjoyed watching. My colleague has been shooting that lens and raving about it! I’ve subbed, and am looking forward to the next vid. Cheers (ps, where can I get some of those mirror glasses- so 😎cool)
Thank you so much! Good to have you here. So, the glasses. They are goodr glasses that I picked up at REI. If you are not in the US, I’m not sure where you’d get goodr glasses. I love them though and for 25 USD, they are a steal.
Really like your channel, I am a Pentax shooter, have been thinking about getting a mirrorless system also, mostly been eyeing the Z6ii with the 24-120mm, looks like a very good all round lens.
One small thing on you video, the music is a bit too loud, otherwise excellent production.
Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
It’s a magical lens! Yeah, I think I’ve toned the music down the newest video. Thanks for the feedback!
Nice review!
Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed it!
subscribed. great video, keep it up!
Thank you so much and welcome to the channel!
Very informative thank you. How is the eye tracking keeping up with this lens? Do you find the autofocus speed faat?
Thank you! Yes, I found the autofocus to be excellent. Eye tracking works well.
hey thomas always great to see someone actually going out and taking photos :-) I especially appreciate who you explain your thinking process when looking for the best composition. one think made me wonder though: looking at the live histo it seems that you do not ETTR - is this on purpose or do you just think the dynamic range is sufficient so you dont need it?
Hello! Thanks for watching. :-) Okay, let cover this in order. In my years of experience shooting Nikons, ETTR isn't for them. ETTR is for Canons and FUijs that tend to block the shadows. Besides, I'd much rather lose a shadow detail than a highlight. In addition and to answer your question on dynamic range, yes, the massive DR on the Z7 holds shadow detail forever. I've rescued 3-5 stops of underexposure in the past. In addition, I never shoot to the right because of what it does to highlights and lighter tones. It compresses them severely. Mostly this has to do with the fact that the camera sensor isn't collecting data linearly. When you push those highlight further to the right, even if you keep them all in the histogram, you have compressed them fairly severely and you can't fix that. I hope this answers your question?
@@ThomasPetzwinkler yes it does, thanks a lot! I am currently using fuji apsc, and it already exposes in a way that it totally protects the highlights, so I can imagine the behaviour differs quite a bit
Thank you. Very informative. It’s 1 year later. Any changes to your opinion? I just sold my old D500 plus 9 lenses to buy the Z8 plus this lens.
No changes. I’ve been an avid supporter of this lens. It’s just so good at pretty much everything. You won’t go wrong with it.
My most used lens on my D850 was my Sigma Art 24-105 F4. I always found the range of the 24-70 too limiting. When I bought my Z7 I paired it with the 24-200 since I got tired of waiting on the 24-105 that was on the Z roadmap. And honestly I have been quite pleased with the 24-200. I was curious if it was worth the upgrade to the 24-120 F4 and I think this helped convince me. Thanks!
Thank you for watching! I am glad my work was useful to you! :-)
This was really interesting and informative Thomas, I wanted this lens from the minute it was on the roadmap and finally got it two days ago here in Scotland.
I absolutely love pretty much everything about it, I will be really testing it on a coming trip to the Highlands but I just did a quick check on my brick garage and it is simply superb.
What really surprised me was how sharp wide open it is even into the corners, and stopping down to f8 to f11 was just amazing.
I now know why I had to wait a while to get it, the dealers are getting stripped of stock overnight! Nikon definitely has a winner with this beauty, as a mainly Landscaper, an ultrawide and this will cover 90% of what I need, have subscribed and look forward to more of how you find it.
Douglas, thank you for your kind thoughts. Yes, this lens is pretty astounding. The more I use it, the more I like it!
New subscriber. Really enjoy your approach.
Thank you! I love shooting videos of trips to make actual photos so incorporating a review is just a natural step. :-)
Hi, very useful video, you have new subscriber! :) Fingers crossed, I hope your channel will grow :)
Thanks for the sub! Yes, this lens is great and I will have a long term review coming at some point. Stay tuned!
Thanks for the very informative video. Why are you keeping the Z 24-200 f4-6.3?
Why not using the DX mode or a 1.4x converter?
I am keeping it for now because I do like having a do all lens for when I need it. The 24-120 is much better but when I am out shooting, I still carry the 100-400 to make up for the difference. With the 24-200, I can take one lens and get by if I need to go ultralight and don't want to carry anything else. We will see though. I frankly haven't touched the 24-200 since I bought the 24-120 and I rarely touch the 24-70 F2.8 either. Problem is that when I shoot video jobs, I frequently use 2 or 3 cameras and like to have a good range for each one so having 3 24-? lenses makes each video camera have the ability to shoot at least 24-70. For video I never use primes and rarely use the 14-30. As with all things though, your mileage may vary.
Thanks Thomas. I am looking to buy this lens to replace the Z24-200. On that Z24-200 the corners at 24mm@F4 really look ugly - full of CA even stopped down it's still very visible, how do the corners compare to the Z24-120, hopefully that issue is almost non existant. This is the reason I am still using the Z24-70F4 for wide angle, that lens does a really good job.
I’ll tell you my copy of the 24-200 wasn’t that bad. You can see all of the work I’ve shot with it over the last year. This lens however is better and all of those problems are basically non existent. This lens is excellent in all regards.
thanks! would love to own this lens for video
I've shot a bunch of video with it the last couple of days and its very very good. Motors are silent and very quick. Even at F4 the autofocus is spot on. Its just a great lens.
Hi. I am undecided on Z24-70/2.8 or Z24-120/4.. How does focus speed compares in lower light? Thanks
Well, low light focusing is always going to be a bit better at 2.8 but I don’t think enough to matter. It’s really only one stop and I haven’t found it to slow down noticeably in low light. Remember though, I don’t shoot sports very often now that my son is in college but I don’t think it would be problematic at all for that. If I had to chose, I would take in to account size, weight, price and convenience. If you don’t mind the size, weight, and price, the 2.8 will always be a little bit better. Enough to matter? That’s something only you can decide. If you absolutely need the extra stop or light, that’s also something to take in to account. If you find that lighter, slightly smaller and with extra reach are what’s important, then go with the 24-120. The extra stop isn’t much of a bother for portraiture as you’ll likely use 4-5.6 for that anyway, the longer focal length is ideal for portraiture and I believe the image quality is so close that you won’t readily be able to see the difference. I hope this helps…. My end comment will be that if I didn’t own the 24-70 2.8, after buying the 24-120, I would feel no need to have the 2.8 at all.
Is that a Shimoda? I love the 24-120 as the all-around purpose lens. I still can't get over how the F stop remains 4 throughout the focal length.
No thats the F-Stop Ajna. Fantastic bag! I still love the 24-120. I can't figure out why Thomas Heaton doesn't think its way better than the 24-70 F4. I own both and I can tell you it is far better. Ah well. Different Strokes, Different Folks.
@@ThomasPetzwinkler Ah- makes sense it looks like a Shimoda. Those are great bags. Yeah, the 24-120 is the lens that should be in every Z camera bag, in my opinion.
Hi, just saw your review, what about flash photograpy with this lens? Can i use a flash with the digital shutter?
Yes, without a doubt!
Thanks for the review. My question is what is your assessment when used at the 120 focal length? I’ve read that it’s not as good as the 24-70 range … and for my uses I’m really interested in the longer focal range performance. Thanks.
Thank you for watching! So, at 120, I didn’t find it to be overly soft. I like to pixel peep as much as the next guy but if there is a bit of softness at 120, I don’t find it to be bothersome or something that stops be from making 17x22 or larger prints from it.
@@ThomasPetzwinkler Okay, thanks.👍
actually, some tests I've seen shows that it is sharper the longer it goes!
Coming back at this late. Yes, the longer it goes the sharper it gets. It starts to drop just a hair at 120 but it’s negligible.
Great review 👏👌, I have the 24-70 f4s and that is really sharp for what it is. I have the Z7 and want the most sharpness to resolve the sensor, was thinking of upgrading to rhe 2.8z but am on the fence as another reviewer has shown that the 24-120f4 z is slightly softer than the 24-70 f4 version.
Have you found this to be the case ?
Is the 24-70 f2.8 noticeably sharper than this lens ?
Thankyou
I would say the opposite, had it now for just over a week and it is slightly sharper than the 24-70 f4, I tested it against one of the sharpest 50mm lenses the Z 50mm 1.8
both at 50mm and was quite astounded at just how sharp the 24-120 was against it at 5.6-11 in the centre at 100% I would defy you to tell the difference.
at the extreme edges it was slightly softer, but nothing like I would have thought up against a very sharp prime. This lens is a beauty, just what I was waiting for.
@@douglasritchie2836 Thankyou for the response, I will have my copy soon and am looking forward to taking some decent test shots with it , looking forward to that extra 50mm of focal length and better build quality 😀
I think the thing to remember is that the 24-70 f4 may have a slight edge in center (though I don’t really think that’s the case and if the reviewer is Ricci, he still thinks the 24-120 is a superior lens over the 24-70 f4 in pretty much all ways) but no matter what you do it tends to soften as you move toward the edges. The 24-120 doesn’t have that problem. Also, sharpness is not the end of the story. Color fidelity and rendering are all far superior to the 24-70 f4 to such an extent that all the 24-70 f4 is just not an option in my mind any longer unless you need the compactness of it. Thanks for watching!
@@ThomasPetzwinkler Thankyou, I finally received my copy and have tested it out , from 24-50 it outperforms the 24-70f4, I would say at 70mm the 24-70 f4 has a slight edge in the corners at all apertures and at 120mm it is softer in the extreme corners at all apertures, something to be mindful of when shooting panoramas, but that an be worked around. Definitely renders colours and contrast better than the 24-70 f4, overall I'm extremely happy with this lens and it saves me from forking out extra $$$ for the 24-70 2.8 version.
PS I have my control ring turned off except when I’m on a tripod, which is my U3 setting. Then, I use it for exposure comp.
Yeah, I’ve turned mine off too. I just kept hitting it. Good thinking for the exposure compensation when you are using a mode where you know you have to watch out for it though!
Hi, I really like your review of this lens. And if it’s not a secret can you please share the first location of this video, I live in DC area and love to visit this park. Thank you in advance.
So, it is a bit of a secret. I only say that because of how crowded places get when you tell others about them. Shoot me an email and I will let you know what I know. :-)
@@ThomasPetzwinkler Thank you for your reply, I messaged you on Instagram with my phone and email.
@@IgorD666 I don’t see your message.
@@ThomasPetzwinkler You probably have to go to your Instagram account and check for messages, I also sent you message on FB messenger
We just purchased a D3400 and am thinking of starting my own TH-cam channel
Excellent! I wish you all of the luck. It’s a hard road if you aren’t trying to please the general public. Lots of work and time for zero return save for being able to interact with folks like you! That’s why I do it, I just love the community!
the only bad thing about this lens is that I can't buy it yet! :(
I hope you get it soon. It really is a bargain at this price.
The "loud" music is a real distraction for me.